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Hello and welcome to The One Show one with me, Angela Scanlon. I'm not

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sure how chatty my co-host is tonight as he thinks people say it

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best when they say nothing at all. I see what you did there! Oh! The

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one-liners. Congratulations, can you believe he

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is here? I can't believe it. 48 hours after a new baby!

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Incredible. Everything is wonderful. Mama and baby are healthy and

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wonderful. It's been an incredible couple of days. Incredible. I cannot

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believe I'm here. I know. Have you got a name? Yes,

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finally, the kids and I, we had three different names, we came up

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with it, it is... Cooper! Coup year Keating. That is lovely. Look at the

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little fella. He must have been scared of you in that moment? Yeah,

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that was nigh first hug. Well done.

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I miss them all. They are down the road at the hospital. I'll be there

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soon! I hope you are not too tired for tonight's guest. As a member of

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one boyband, you have a lot of in common. They have announced the

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mother of all comebacks and the name is on everyone's lips.

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Bananarama... Bananarama... I love me some Bananarama!

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# He was really saying something # Really saying something

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# It's a cruel, cruel, cruel, summer...

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# Leaving me here on my own... I loved the fact that they had girl

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power and the dancing was dynamic. # Robert De Niro is waiting...

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# Talking Italian. # You got it, baby you've got it

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# I'm your Venus # I'm your Venus

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# Your desire. I'm so happy to invite them on, Keren, Sarah and

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Siobhan, otherwise known as the built Bananarama. Ladies, you are

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very, very welcome. Thank you. You are back together, back on tour.

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Tell us all about it. Well, I think we have said it many

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times but Siobhan and Keren and myself went on massive World Tour in

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1999, we never toured with all of us together.

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So 29 years later... I didn't know Siobhan wanted to do it.

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. The initial thing was calling Siobhan. It came out of the blue for

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her. The shock that she had to deal with it.

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The level of excitement is overwhelming.

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People are ready and waiting. It is mostly a sell-out which is

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extraordinary. That is amazing. But you deserve it.

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So many great songs. So many hits. You have it. Like riding a bike. And

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as well as Bananarama we have live music from the Cranberries, closing

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the show with their classic hit, 'Linger'. One of my favourites.

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Can't wait for that. A great song.

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OK Over hits long history, the Victorian Victorian Victorian museum

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was inmate to one of the great train robbers.

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But there was one man it couldn't hold.

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My name is Walter Groom. I'm a husband, a father and a businessman.

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56 years ago I broke out of prison. This is how I did it.

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Today I've come back to the Daniil Kvyat Prison in Shrewsbury. I'm not

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proud of why I ended up here. I never wanted a life of crime but the

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circumstances I was in led to it. It was petty crime. Breaking into

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shops, that sort of thing. At the age of 16 I was banged up. After I

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was released but got in trouble again. Age 25 I was sentenced to

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another three years inside. Prison was hard. The discipline was

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very severe. It was a high security prison. My

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cell and the area around it became my whole world. Every little thing

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from the mat I tripped over every day to the faces that I saw, it can

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drive you mad. Occasionally, we did relax.

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It was when I was stood here playing darts one day, that everything

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changed. One lad was fairly new and wanted

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out. One of the other guys at the prison thought that if anyone crowd

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break out it was me because I had spent four years inside already. I

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knew I would be out within two years anyway. But I liked the challenge of

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breaking out. Something had popped into my head, that mat that I

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tripped over everyday. I knew that the man hole under the mat led to

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somewhere. It could be the iron grid out in the woodyard I could see from

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the cell. This wasn't a job we could pull off ourselves. We needed cons

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to keep an eye out for officers. We went to people we could trust. In

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exchange for help we traded sugar from the bakery and tobacco. But the

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important important part was getting a look at the man hole. We were able

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to find something to prise open it with. We got in, scuttled along a

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tunnel and found the one thing that meant this could work - day light! I

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knew that the tunnel did lead to the grid but now the hard work began.

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One of the other lads worked in the workshop so he could get rope. We

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used bucket handles to make a grid. Every time we were down there, even

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with the mates watching out, we risked getting caught. 16 days after

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the idea came up, we made our bid for freedom. My mate gave a signal

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to the lads to start a ruckus. The three of us walked with ropes and

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hooks under our clothes. My heart was pumping, the tension was high,

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this was it. With the guards kept busy, we went down the man hole for

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what we hoped would be the last time. I knew getting through the

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grid was half the challenge. We ran to the wall and threw the rope over

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but the hook wouldn't catch on the other side. The time was running

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out. We made a human ladder and climbed up each other. One lad got

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to the top and threw the rope down. The third guy wasn't going to make

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it, he told us to leave. We knew we had been discovered so we jumped, 18

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feet down and to freedom - we'd done it.

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After six days we were ratted on and got caught and went back to prison.

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The story didn't end there. As I said, I never wanted to be involved

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in crime. After getting out in 1965, something happened to me that

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changed my life forever. I met Barbara. I knew I want wanted to

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turn my life around because I loved her. It took a long time to tell her

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about my old life. What was the thoughts when you found out about my

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past? I was shocked but I thought I could change you.

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Well, you did. Because I would still probably be here now if it wasn't

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for you! Staying with crime and punishment, this Sunday millions of

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us are hoping for answers when the current series of Line Of Duty

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concludes. Who is Balaclava Man for example and

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are there rotten apples in AC-12? Girls will be be watching? Yes,

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beside myself. It is true. We have had many discussions about who may

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have done it. Colonel Mustard in the library.

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Someone we know has been watching. He spent part of his career catching

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crooks, here is Director of Professional Standards for the

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Metropolitan Police and Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Steven

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Roberts. How true is this to the crime? It is

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very true. It catches the feel of what it is like to go after bent

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cops. They use techniques, a difficult

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cult technique, not as easy as it seems to be managed in the Line Of

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Duty. You have been impressed by it? The

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series is brilliant. I have had 180 officers though, to accomplish what

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those guys do in a couple of weeks. Steve, can you give us an idea of

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some of the cases you investigated? One of the most interesting was two

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serving officers in London who set up their own private detective

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agency. They sold services to people who were not particular about where

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the information came from. They could tap telephones, hack into

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computers. Do physical surveillance and they were selling that sort of

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information for huge amounts of money.

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Can't believe it. In the series there is a sense that the cops under

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investigation are very defensive a lot of the time. Was that true to

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your experience? The bent cops hated us. I'm glad to say. We were trying

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to put them in prison. For the vast majority of officers who are honest,

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it was rather like driving down the road and you see there is a police

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car behind you. Even though you are not doing anything wrong you

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straighten up a bit. You do that as well?! Of course I

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do! That makes me feel better. Good news.

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So tell bus the 23 p initiative? We came to a point where officers were

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charged with offences, going to court to be dealt with, and the law

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says if an officer is suspended on full pay, he's on full pay. Some

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cases can be delayed by a year, two years, three years. It was a huge

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waste of public money. So we decided we would try to simply invite the

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officers in and have a chat with them. I had a particularly stern

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Chief Superintendent. We spent 23 pence on a second class stamp for

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the envelope and they were invited in with their solicitor or the

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Police Federation rep and basically told we don't love you anymore, here

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is a letter you can say to resign, now.

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Wow #1k4r57 Presumably you had evidence? These were people we were

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quite sure had done what they had done, what they were accused of.

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Astonishingly a number of them signed the letter, went off pay and

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saved a lot of money for the taxpayers.

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How much? About a dozen in the first year which saved the best part of ?1

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million. But that saving was going on and on.

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The vast majority of the Metropolitan Police are doing a

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stella job on the streets of London. Thank you, Steve.

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In connection, Phil and May have the power to ignite the livingrooms

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across the country. You see, we have found somebody to reinvent fish and

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chips. Controversial! Fish and chips, as

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inviting as a British cup of tea and loved for years. But recent polls

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show it declining. Sales for kebabs are up 9% but visits to chip shops

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have fallen by 4.4%. The favourite take away is Chinese, closely

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followed by Indian and pizza, leaving fish and chips in the lonely

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fourth place. So what is happening? I'm meeting food critic Andy Newman.

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I have a bone to pick with you, you described cod and chips as one of

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the most boring meals on the planet. Why? Fish is lovely. I want to taste

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the fish, not the grease. I see where you are coming from.

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People come from all over the world, when they come to England, what do

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they want? Fish and chips! Well, maybe not. The younger people are

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deearthing our chip shops so if you serve fish, so serve it so you can

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test the fish, less greasy or stodgy.

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It seems that the fish and chip shop could be doing with an update. There

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is a place here in Norwich, guess what, it is run by an American.

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Here they have teamed up with a Norwich native and together

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transformed this old school chippie to a trendy restaurant with modern

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twists on classic dishes such as shark bites and squid and toad in

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the hole. You have to keep up with the times

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and people want different things, so that is why we do different things.

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People want a lighter fish dinner. People don't eat it every day. Some

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come in and say that they are coming in on Saturday pretend that you have

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not seen me during the week! The head chef inherited the chip shop

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from his dad. What did he think of the changes? He thought we were

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crazy. Put a lick of paint on it, cover the lino, you will be fine.

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But now he sees what we have done. He says we were right. He is happy.

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When he comes in, what does he order? Fish and chips! He's not been

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convinced! Convinced but not converted! You have done a few

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twists? We have made it a little more exciting, using traditional

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fish in a fun way. One of the best sellers is bass with sass.

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Show me how to make it? Yes. Grab a wrap and get salad leaves. A

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few layers go down. Grab your fish, make sure it is nice and crispy.

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Then I put on the salsa like so... There is one of our bass with sass.

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That is beautiful. Well, I'm sold. What about

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anti-batter Andy? This is modern fish and chips. But it is way better

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than the standard cod and chips. But I still don't see it should be in

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batter and deep fried. Andy is still a sceptic. What do the

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locals think? Let's take them to the streets to see if trendy overtakes

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the traditional! I like that. Better than mushy peas,

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any day! I think it's a seriously delicious bite. Thanks a lot. You

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don't feel so guilty eating it. With this, it is lettece, you feel

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healthy. Is the chippy dead? With business know-how, there 's life in

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it yet. Well, that looks tasty. I love fish

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and chips. So do I! From one British classic to another, Bananarama are

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back together. They sold 40 million records and

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became the girl group with the most chart singles of all times. Like

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huge... No-one else has been going as long. Siobhan, what will the tour

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be like? So far 16 dates. All theatres around the UK. It will be a

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band and us and... And a party. And a big old party. All our old hits,

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but lots of surprises as well. Back in the heyday you were very, very,

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you know you were very much in control of the music of the long. A

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lot of manufactured bands are shaped and moulded.

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What do you mean? I didn't say a thing! Is that level of control

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still very important to you guys? That came naturally to us. We formed

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a group and wanted to write our own material. There was no other way for

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us to do it. That has not changed at all. There was not an option

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otherwise. We were opinionated, it sometimes got termed as awkward,

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because we are girls. It happens with lads as well. I am glad to hear

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that. I think in the '80s the music business was different. It was

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virtually all men. I am not sure they understood us. We were quite

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young and knew what we wanted. Defiant.

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Wilful. All good words. You know how hard it is being on the road,

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hotels, you've got kids now - how are you approaching that? Our kids

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are grown up, which makes it easier. It feels a new lease of life. We've

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got Siobhan back. It is exciting. So back in that bubble. It is like

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going on a school trip. I have never done it... At last I get to perform

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all those records we made. We spent so much of the last couple of weeks

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just giggling. When I got back with the lads and I had not seen them for

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five or six years - it was like nothing had changed. The same stupid

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jokes... In-jokes. That no-one else gets. We saw people celebrating your

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music, having connections. There is a feel for the stuff. Are there any

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particular tracks you cannot wait to get into? It is hard to choose. It

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is hard to choose. We have been touring for the last 20 years. We

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are used to being on stage. None you are sick and tired of Yeltsin? --

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tires of yet? Siobhan was so nervous that I had

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gone through it again and again in the dressing room and then I went

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wrong. It is so typical.

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And Siobhan was perfect. Apart from the classics what about

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any new music? We are hoping... On the tour. We haven't got plans to do

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an album because we have not left ourselves enough time. That will

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come. That will follow. Let's have a little bit of a reminisce when you

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did the band aid single. What was that day like? Such an iconic image

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when you look back. We kind of shared an a offer with Bob Geldof.

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He said come to the studio. We're had a heavy night out.

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There was Bono... Stop dropping names! We were the only girls other

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than Shalama. Which I find extraordinary. We didn't know there

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would be cameras or anything. You looked fab. The tour starts 12th

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November. I'll be going. I'll be there. We are doubly blessed with

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musical talent. Shortly the Cranberries will perform Linger as

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you have never heard it before. First the chance to swim with seals

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and you don't even have to get wet! Prepare yourself for a One Show

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first. Imagine a piece of technology that

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could transport you to another world.

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Surround you with nature, all from the comfort of your living room.

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Well, this is it. It's a 360-degree camera and films

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side to side, front and back all at the same time. The cameras are

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protected by a water-tight Perspex dome. To enjoy the results from this

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camera requires more than a TV. For the full imher sieve viewing

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experience you need a set of these - put them on, what I am seeing is

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just incredible. I am using a smartphone clipped into

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a headset. This is a 360 film made for Plan et Earth II. You can look

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at the image in any direction. It is as if I am using the camera

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myself. I am turning the camera myself. We are going to make our own

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One Show 360 degree film. Right here in Blighty. I am heading to the farn

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Isles off the coast of Northumberland. Home to over 4,000

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grey seals. The quarter-tonne females are having their pups so

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there should be a lot of seals and plenty of activity. My guide is seal

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expert Ben. This is my new shiny bit of kit. What will the seals like of

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this They are such different characters, some are bold, some are

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weary. It depends which seals we meet today under water.

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Stay close... We need a stable footing for the camera. Shallow

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enough for light to film, but deep enough for the seals to feel

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comfortable. We like a challenge, don't we, on The One Show? This is a

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very good spot. And the water seems to be clearing. Now we just have to

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wait and hope the seals come to check us out.

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Here, look, look... Lovely! Look at them coming around. Wow!

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The seal's strategy is to approach from behind, so we cannot see them.

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But the 360-degree camera should capture everything.

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Right behind you. Everywhere you turn, there are

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seals. This is absolutely magnificent. These shots are from

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our conventional underwater camera. But we still manage to capture some

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incredible seal behaviour. Now it is time to head to the

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surface to see what 360-degree camera has captured. Footage from

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all six cameras have been digitally knitted together by our specialist.

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I am using a special headset so you can see what I'm seeing.

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Wow! Look at that! Immediately, it feels like a very different

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experience from viewing standard footage. You can almost feel the

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weight of the sea sort of weighing down on you. It's just like being

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there, but not being cold and not being wet.

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There's a seal over there. Look! And oh, look! There's one right down

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there. There's no hiding from a 360-degree

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camera! That seal film is available via The

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One Show website. Thank you. Woody Harrelson is here on Monday.

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Now with Linger, it's the Cranberries.

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# If you, if you could return # Don't let it burn

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# Don't let it fade # I'm sure I'm not being rude

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# But it's just your attitude # It's tearing me apart

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# It's ruining every day # And I swore

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# I swore I would be true # And honey, so did you

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# So why were you holding her hand # Is that the way we stand

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# Were you lying all the time # Was it just a game to you

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# But I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you

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# You've got me wrapped around your finger

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# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to let it linger

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# Oh, I thought the world of you # I thought nothing could go wrong

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# But I was wrong # I was wrong

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# If you, if you could get by # Trying not to lie

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# Things wouldn't be so confused # And I wouldn't feel so used

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# But you always really knew # I just want to be with you

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# And I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you

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# You've got me wrapped around your finger

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# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to

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# Do There'll be a couple of hours of

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just fantastic music, really, all the Ella classics, as well as

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some very special guests, we have Mica Paris, Imelda May,

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Dame Cleo Laine

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