28/04/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show one with me, Angela Scanlon. I'm not

sure how chatty my co-host is tonight as he thinks people say it

best when they say nothing at all. I see what you did there! Oh! The

one-liners. Congratulations, can you believe he

is here? I can't believe it. 48 hours after a new baby!

Incredible. Everything is wonderful. Mama and baby are healthy and

wonderful. It's been an incredible couple of days. Incredible. I cannot

believe I'm here. I know. Have you got a name? Yes,

finally, the kids and I, we had three different names, we came up

with it, it is... Cooper! Coup year Keating. That is lovely. Look at the

little fella. He must have been scared of you in that moment? Yeah,

that was nigh first hug. Well done.

I miss them all. They are down the road at the hospital. I'll be there

soon! I hope you are not too tired for tonight's guest. As a member of

one boyband, you have a lot of in common. They have announced the

mother of all comebacks and the name is on everyone's lips.

Bananarama... Bananarama... I love me some Bananarama!

# He was really saying something # Really saying something

# It's a cruel, cruel, cruel, summer...

# Leaving me here on my own... I loved the fact that they had girl

power and the dancing was dynamic. # Robert De Niro is waiting...

# Talking Italian. # You got it, baby you've got it

# I'm your Venus # I'm your Venus

# Your desire. I'm so happy to invite them on, Keren, Sarah and

Siobhan, otherwise known as the built Bananarama. Ladies, you are

very, very welcome. Thank you. You are back together, back on tour.

Tell us all about it. Well, I think we have said it many

times but Siobhan and Keren and myself went on massive World Tour in

1999, we never toured with all of us together.

So 29 years later... I didn't know Siobhan wanted to do it.

. The initial thing was calling Siobhan. It came out of the blue for

her. The shock that she had to deal with it.

The level of excitement is overwhelming.

People are ready and waiting. It is mostly a sell-out which is

extraordinary. That is amazing. But you deserve it.

So many great songs. So many hits. You have it. Like riding a bike. And

as well as Bananarama we have live music from the Cranberries, closing

the show with their classic hit, 'Linger'. One of my favourites.

Can't wait for that. A great song.

OK Over hits long history, the Victorian Victorian Victorian museum

was inmate to one of the great train robbers.

But there was one man it couldn't hold.

My name is Walter Groom. I'm a husband, a father and a businessman.

56 years ago I broke out of prison. This is how I did it.

Today I've come back to the Daniil Kvyat Prison in Shrewsbury. I'm not

proud of why I ended up here. I never wanted a life of crime but the

circumstances I was in led to it. It was petty crime. Breaking into

shops, that sort of thing. At the age of 16 I was banged up. After I

was released but got in trouble again. Age 25 I was sentenced to

another three years inside. Prison was hard. The discipline was

very severe. It was a high security prison. My

cell and the area around it became my whole world. Every little thing

from the mat I tripped over every day to the faces that I saw, it can

drive you mad. Occasionally, we did relax.

It was when I was stood here playing darts one day, that everything

changed. One lad was fairly new and wanted

out. One of the other guys at the prison thought that if anyone crowd

break out it was me because I had spent four years inside already. I

knew I would be out within two years anyway. But I liked the challenge of

breaking out. Something had popped into my head, that mat that I

tripped over everyday. I knew that the man hole under the mat led to

somewhere. It could be the iron grid out in the woodyard I could see from

the cell. This wasn't a job we could pull off ourselves. We needed cons

to keep an eye out for officers. We went to people we could trust. In

exchange for help we traded sugar from the bakery and tobacco. But the

important important part was getting a look at the man hole. We were able

to find something to prise open it with. We got in, scuttled along a

tunnel and found the one thing that meant this could work - day light! I

knew that the tunnel did lead to the grid but now the hard work began.

One of the other lads worked in the workshop so he could get rope. We

used bucket handles to make a grid. Every time we were down there, even

with the mates watching out, we risked getting caught. 16 days after

the idea came up, we made our bid for freedom. My mate gave a signal

to the lads to start a ruckus. The three of us walked with ropes and

hooks under our clothes. My heart was pumping, the tension was high,

this was it. With the guards kept busy, we went down the man hole for

what we hoped would be the last time. I knew getting through the

grid was half the challenge. We ran to the wall and threw the rope over

but the hook wouldn't catch on the other side. The time was running

out. We made a human ladder and climbed up each other. One lad got

to the top and threw the rope down. The third guy wasn't going to make

it, he told us to leave. We knew we had been discovered so we jumped, 18

feet down and to freedom - we'd done it.

After six days we were ratted on and got caught and went back to prison.

The story didn't end there. As I said, I never wanted to be involved

in crime. After getting out in 1965, something happened to me that

changed my life forever. I met Barbara. I knew I want wanted to

turn my life around because I loved her. It took a long time to tell her

about my old life. What was the thoughts when you found out about my

past? I was shocked but I thought I could change you.

Well, you did. Because I would still probably be here now if it wasn't

for you! Staying with crime and punishment, this Sunday millions of

us are hoping for answers when the current series of Line Of Duty

concludes. Who is Balaclava Man for example and

are there rotten apples in AC-12? Girls will be be watching? Yes,

beside myself. It is true. We have had many discussions about who may

have done it. Colonel Mustard in the library.

Someone we know has been watching. He spent part of his career catching

crooks, here is Director of Professional Standards for the

Metropolitan Police and Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Steven

Roberts. How true is this to the crime? It is

very true. It catches the feel of what it is like to go after bent

cops. They use techniques, a difficult

cult technique, not as easy as it seems to be managed in the Line Of

Duty. You have been impressed by it? The

series is brilliant. I have had 180 officers though, to accomplish what

those guys do in a couple of weeks. Steve, can you give us an idea of

some of the cases you investigated? One of the most interesting was two

serving officers in London who set up their own private detective

agency. They sold services to people who were not particular about where

the information came from. They could tap telephones, hack into

computers. Do physical surveillance and they were selling that sort of

information for huge amounts of money.

Can't believe it. In the series there is a sense that the cops under

investigation are very defensive a lot of the time. Was that true to

your experience? The bent cops hated us. I'm glad to say. We were trying

to put them in prison. For the vast majority of officers who are honest,

it was rather like driving down the road and you see there is a police

car behind you. Even though you are not doing anything wrong you

straighten up a bit. You do that as well?! Of course I

do! That makes me feel better. Good news.

So tell bus the 23 p initiative? We came to a point where officers were

charged with offences, going to court to be dealt with, and the law

says if an officer is suspended on full pay, he's on full pay. Some

cases can be delayed by a year, two years, three years. It was a huge

waste of public money. So we decided we would try to simply invite the

officers in and have a chat with them. I had a particularly stern

Chief Superintendent. We spent 23 pence on a second class stamp for

the envelope and they were invited in with their solicitor or the

Police Federation rep and basically told we don't love you anymore, here

is a letter you can say to resign, now.

Wow #1k4r57 Presumably you had evidence? These were people we were

quite sure had done what they had done, what they were accused of.

Astonishingly a number of them signed the letter, went off pay and

saved a lot of money for the taxpayers.

How much? About a dozen in the first year which saved the best part of ?1

million. But that saving was going on and on.

The vast majority of the Metropolitan Police are doing a

stella job on the streets of London. Thank you, Steve.

In connection, Phil and May have the power to ignite the livingrooms

across the country. You see, we have found somebody to reinvent fish and

chips. Controversial! Fish and chips, as

inviting as a British cup of tea and loved for years. But recent polls

show it declining. Sales for kebabs are up 9% but visits to chip shops

have fallen by 4.4%. The favourite take away is Chinese, closely

followed by Indian and pizza, leaving fish and chips in the lonely

fourth place. So what is happening? I'm meeting food critic Andy Newman.

I have a bone to pick with you, you described cod and chips as one of

the most boring meals on the planet. Why? Fish is lovely. I want to taste

the fish, not the grease. I see where you are coming from.

People come from all over the world, when they come to England, what do

they want? Fish and chips! Well, maybe not. The younger people are

deearthing our chip shops so if you serve fish, so serve it so you can

test the fish, less greasy or stodgy.

It seems that the fish and chip shop could be doing with an update. There

is a place here in Norwich, guess what, it is run by an American.

Here they have teamed up with a Norwich native and together

transformed this old school chippie to a trendy restaurant with modern

twists on classic dishes such as shark bites and squid and toad in

the hole. You have to keep up with the times

and people want different things, so that is why we do different things.

People want a lighter fish dinner. People don't eat it every day. Some

come in and say that they are coming in on Saturday pretend that you have

not seen me during the week! The head chef inherited the chip shop

from his dad. What did he think of the changes? He thought we were

crazy. Put a lick of paint on it, cover the lino, you will be fine.

But now he sees what we have done. He says we were right. He is happy.

When he comes in, what does he order? Fish and chips! He's not been

convinced! Convinced but not converted! You have done a few

twists? We have made it a little more exciting, using traditional

fish in a fun way. One of the best sellers is bass with sass.

Show me how to make it? Yes. Grab a wrap and get salad leaves. A

few layers go down. Grab your fish, make sure it is nice and crispy.

Then I put on the salsa like so... There is one of our bass with sass.

That is beautiful. Well, I'm sold. What about

anti-batter Andy? This is modern fish and chips. But it is way better

than the standard cod and chips. But I still don't see it should be in

batter and deep fried. Andy is still a sceptic. What do the

locals think? Let's take them to the streets to see if trendy overtakes

the traditional! I like that. Better than mushy peas,

any day! I think it's a seriously delicious bite. Thanks a lot. You

don't feel so guilty eating it. With this, it is lettece, you feel

healthy. Is the chippy dead? With business know-how, there 's life in

it yet. Well, that looks tasty. I love fish

and chips. So do I! From one British classic to another, Bananarama are

back together. They sold 40 million records and

became the girl group with the most chart singles of all times. Like

huge... No-one else has been going as long. Siobhan, what will the tour

be like? So far 16 dates. All theatres around the UK. It will be a

band and us and... And a party. And a big old party. All our old hits,

but lots of surprises as well. Back in the heyday you were very, very,

you know you were very much in control of the music of the long. A

lot of manufactured bands are shaped and moulded.

What do you mean? I didn't say a thing! Is that level of control

still very important to you guys? That came naturally to us. We formed

a group and wanted to write our own material. There was no other way for

us to do it. That has not changed at all. There was not an option

otherwise. We were opinionated, it sometimes got termed as awkward,

because we are girls. It happens with lads as well. I am glad to hear

that. I think in the '80s the music business was different. It was

virtually all men. I am not sure they understood us. We were quite

young and knew what we wanted. Defiant.

Wilful. All good words. You know how hard it is being on the road,

hotels, you've got kids now - how are you approaching that? Our kids

are grown up, which makes it easier. It feels a new lease of life. We've

got Siobhan back. It is exciting. So back in that bubble. It is like

going on a school trip. I have never done it... At last I get to perform

all those records we made. We spent so much of the last couple of weeks

just giggling. When I got back with the lads and I had not seen them for

five or six years - it was like nothing had changed. The same stupid

jokes... In-jokes. That no-one else gets. We saw people celebrating your

music, having connections. There is a feel for the stuff. Are there any

particular tracks you cannot wait to get into? It is hard to choose. It

is hard to choose. We have been touring for the last 20 years. We

are used to being on stage. None you are sick and tired of Yeltsin? --

tires of yet? Siobhan was so nervous that I had

gone through it again and again in the dressing room and then I went

wrong. It is so typical.

And Siobhan was perfect. Apart from the classics what about

any new music? We are hoping... On the tour. We haven't got plans to do

an album because we have not left ourselves enough time. That will

come. That will follow. Let's have a little bit of a reminisce when you

did the band aid single. What was that day like? Such an iconic image

when you look back. We kind of shared an a offer with Bob Geldof.

He said come to the studio. We're had a heavy night out.

There was Bono... Stop dropping names! We were the only girls other

than Shalama. Which I find extraordinary. We didn't know there

would be cameras or anything. You looked fab. The tour starts 12th

November. I'll be going. I'll be there. We are doubly blessed with

musical talent. Shortly the Cranberries will perform Linger as

you have never heard it before. First the chance to swim with seals

and you don't even have to get wet! Prepare yourself for a One Show

first. Imagine a piece of technology that

could transport you to another world.

Surround you with nature, all from the comfort of your living room.

Well, this is it. It's a 360-degree camera and films

side to side, front and back all at the same time. The cameras are

protected by a water-tight Perspex dome. To enjoy the results from this

camera requires more than a TV. For the full imher sieve viewing

experience you need a set of these - put them on, what I am seeing is

just incredible. I am using a smartphone clipped into

a headset. This is a 360 film made for Plan et Earth II. You can look

at the image in any direction. It is as if I am using the camera

myself. I am turning the camera myself. We are going to make our own

One Show 360 degree film. Right here in Blighty. I am heading to the farn

Isles off the coast of Northumberland. Home to over 4,000

grey seals. The quarter-tonne females are having their pups so

there should be a lot of seals and plenty of activity. My guide is seal

expert Ben. This is my new shiny bit of kit. What will the seals like of

this They are such different characters, some are bold, some are

weary. It depends which seals we meet today under water.

Stay close... We need a stable footing for the camera. Shallow

enough for light to film, but deep enough for the seals to feel

comfortable. We like a challenge, don't we, on The One Show? This is a

very good spot. And the water seems to be clearing. Now we just have to

wait and hope the seals come to check us out.

Here, look, look... Lovely! Look at them coming around. Wow!

The seal's strategy is to approach from behind, so we cannot see them.

But the 360-degree camera should capture everything.

Right behind you. Everywhere you turn, there are

seals. This is absolutely magnificent. These shots are from

our conventional underwater camera. But we still manage to capture some

incredible seal behaviour. Now it is time to head to the

surface to see what 360-degree camera has captured. Footage from

all six cameras have been digitally knitted together by our specialist.

I am using a special headset so you can see what I'm seeing.

Wow! Look at that! Immediately, it feels like a very different

experience from viewing standard footage. You can almost feel the

weight of the sea sort of weighing down on you. It's just like being

there, but not being cold and not being wet.

There's a seal over there. Look! And oh, look! There's one right down

there. There's no hiding from a 360-degree

camera! That seal film is available via The

One Show website. Thank you. Woody Harrelson is here on Monday.

Now with Linger, it's the Cranberries.

# If you, if you could return # Don't let it burn

# Don't let it fade # I'm sure I'm not being rude

# But it's just your attitude # It's tearing me apart

# It's ruining every day # And I swore

# I swore I would be true # And honey, so did you

# So why were you holding her hand # Is that the way we stand

# Were you lying all the time # Was it just a game to you

# But I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you

# You've got me wrapped around your finger

# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to let it linger

# Oh, I thought the world of you # I thought nothing could go wrong

# But I was wrong # I was wrong

# If you, if you could get by # Trying not to lie

# Things wouldn't be so confused # And I wouldn't feel so used

# But you always really knew # I just want to be with you

# And I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you

# You've got me wrapped around your finger

# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to

# Do There'll be a couple of hours of

just fantastic music, really, all the Ella classics, as well as

some very special guests, we have Mica Paris, Imelda May,

Dame Cleo Laine