30/05/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show, with Ore and Alex Jones. Tonight, we

are joined by a man who, according to his wife, isn't very good at

housework but is a good politician. It is up to you to decide whether

she is right about the politics, but tonight we can find out how handy he

is a roundhouse and more, as we welcome Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of

the Labour Party. APPLAUSE

Good evening, Jeremy. Nice to have you with us. Nice to be here, thanks

for inviting me. Pleasure. Let's get it out of the way, BBC impartiality

and all that, we have to ask - boys' and girls' jobs do you have an in

your house? No. Who trims the hedge that we see a lot on the television

outside your house, is it you? You have to let the plants grow a bit.

It sometimes looks a bit overgrown. Do you know what was there before?

Know, pray tell. A lump of concrete. It was an entrance to a garage.

Someone must have been parking their cars, because the concrete was that

thick. If you only you were here last night, we were talking about

greening Great Britain. I greened a bit of Great Britain and made it

less grey. You like let's talk elections, briefly, if we have to.

Nine days away, you won't need reminding, does the prospect of

Theresa May calling up, conceding defeat and offering the keys of

number ten fill you with fear or unbridled joy?

Hope of what we can do and the way we can change things in this

company. I am proud of the way we have run this campaign and the

policies we have put forward. There are nine days ago and I will be all

over the country putting that message out. I only asked the

question because, rightly or some people have said you have not always

gone out of your way to be the Prime Minister, rather being an activist.

There is a difference. I have been active in politics, human rights and

many things all my life, representing the same constituency

since 1983, and I get an awful lot of comfort, support, advice, help

and knowledge from the people that I represent, and I think if you are to

lead, you have to be prepared to listen as well, and I enjoyed that.

Did I ever set out in line to become Prime Minister? No. I set out to try

and change things and bring about greater justice in our society. I

was elected and re-elected as leader of the party, and I'm proud to lead

the party, and I'm giving it everything I can to win this

election. We think, from a young age, because you have brought some

pictures along tonight... Oh, dear! I know this is a private discussion

and we are having, just as three, where did you get them? You brought

them with you! It's a good source! This picture here, you as a young

boy. More than a touch of the dispatch box there, don't you think?

The left arm is in a very strong position, obviously waiting to bring

some notes out of a pocket, wouldn't you say? You notice the so incorrect

rains that are being held in the pram. Is it a harness? Yes, I was a

bit free-spirited and kept climbing out of the pram and running off.

That doesn't surprise us. It's nice to see that you got three. Free. You

have had some very negative publicity, what effect does it have

on your family? Loved ones always have unreasonable pressure put on

them, and they always have done, all my life. I have a great deal of

sympathy with them and a great deal of thanks to give everyone of them,

because intrusion in my life is not nice, but I am an elected

politician, I am there, and it goes with the territory, you say. But the

wider family, it's not fair, and I wish some of the media would just

draw some boundaries. Thank you for showing us the pictures, and there

are plenty more to go through. Have you got ones that I don't know about

as well? We may have. We will be talking plenty about what makes

Jeromy Pantic tonight -- Jeremy tick. Our first film is about a

banker with a difference. Here in Edinburgh, the Reverend Ian

May is on a mission. It is everyone, not just poor people. To find people

interested in a new type of bank. A new community bank, opening in

Leith. Ian established the bank in 2015 to give other lenders on the

high street a run for their money. I have spotted pawnshops. We want to

say that, yes, these are options, but they could be expensive.

Community banks are a new take on an old idea. Locally run credit unions,

which used members' savings to give loans at competitive rates, have

been around for a long time. Castle Community has permission from the

financial regulator to brand itself as a bank, with the hope of

appealing to as many people as possible. It is Ian's knowledge from

his previous career which got them off to a flying start. Ten years

ago, he was a city banker on a 6-figure salary, but gave it up

after Ray revelation aboard his yacht. We were having a glass or

two, and I turned to my wife and said, this is crazy, not a lifestyle

we should be having. Ian decided he could use his banking experience to

help the wider community. We come across a lot of people who are

struggling. They are having to use payday loans and other high cost

lenders to get by. Jill Baxendale has first-hand experience of

crippling finance. -- Joe Baxendale. What did it cost you? ?62.20 a

month. I was working at the time, but when I stopped working, that

became a bit steep. Joe also took out an unsecured loan with a 49.9%

interest rate. The loan I took out was to facilitate a repair to the

car. Between the two, it was costing me ?130 a month. A lot of money.

Castle Community Bank were able to give Joe a lone better than his

current rate, but still higher than most high banks. So their terms were

more attractive? Going from 60 something percent down to 18% was a

rather big saving. Jo is just one of around 1600 customers now benefiting

from the community bank. Alistair Ramsay is the manager in its

Craigmillar branch. What are the financial services you offer to

people in this area? Savings and loans, very simple. The

nitty-gritty. How does this differ from most high-street banks? We can

only lend out what we get in from the community. For people who want

to borrow, you may be more likely to get a loan from us than from a major

bank. You are my first customer today. How much are you putting in

today? Savers are protected by the Financial Conduct Authority. Ronald

Gunn was saving at a high-street bank but switched last year. What

made you become an account holder? When I got my pension, I thought, I

have got enough money and I can put some in to help other people that

need a loan without paying too much interest. It is only 18 months since

the bank was launched, but already, the signs are looking good. Unlike

Ian's previous banking life, he doesn't take a cut of the profits.

What is the bank currently worth? We are approaching about ?1 million in

assets. What is the long-term plan? Just now, we are trying to do the

right thing and grow steadily and responsibly. We are opening a branch

in Leith shortly. I think we need to be here in Leith, in the heart of

the community, of the people we want to serve. What do you think?

Something smaller locally is better. I will be interested to hear what

the options are. Is this something you would consider? No idea. -- no

doubt about it. We need something like that in this area. There seems

to be enthusiasm for this type of bank, and I wouldn't be surprised

if, in the future, this type of bank was to become a more familiar sight

on the high Street. We saw the Reverend Ian there, a big

lifestyle change was not what is the biggest thing you have changed your

mind over? I think it is great. I support our credit union because it

helps people get a loan that they would not otherwise get, and it

helps people to deal with fine as and manage their lives. -- to deal

with financed. In terms of attitude, I think my basic attitudes and

principles are pretty much as they've always been. I think what

happens is, as a young person, you tend to adopt or develop political

views and often become quite judgmental of others, and I think

the more you go through life, no less judgmental you are, and I am

fascinated by meeting an enormous variety of people and learning

something from them. Everybody you meet has a different experience in

some way. And something to offer. And they know something you don't.

You have to be prepared to listen to others, and that I find absolutely

fascinating, and I store all this stuff away. As a child, I learn

something from a very old man. I used to be a paperboy on a Sunday in

rural Shropshire. Around that age? No. You like you look like you have

the measure of stuff. You look cheeky, if you don't mind my saying!

The spots and all that. I don't know what the thing is on my tea. It

doesn't look nice. I will put it down to camera. The technology was

bad. I wasn't delivering papers at that age. I was older. Rural

Shropshire, you grew up, mum and dad. I was born in the West Country,

and then we moved when my dad got a job. I also had a family of six

growing up, so busy household? Can I talk about this later? It's sort of

why we're here. A lovely picture of the six of you and a candlelit

dinner. Good memories? Yes, that was my grandad, and it was for his 80th

birthday. He died a year later than that, and he grew up in Sunderland,

born in Lowestoft, and later moved to London. He was a solicitor in

Ealing, and he was known as the poor man's lawyer. I learned quite a bit

from him. Your parents, they met at a rally, didn't they, in support of

Spanish Republicans? You must inherit a lot of your politics from

them. They were alarmed by the rise of fascism in Europe, and alarmed by

what was going on in Spain, and they met at any dent in Conway Hall in

London in support of the elective republican Government in Spain,

which was then under threat and was eventually destroyed by the invasion

of Franco's forces, supported by the Nazis, and they met there. They had

strong views, but they never pushed the views down our throats at all.

They were very much liberal thinkers who believes people should think for

themselves and discover themselves and a path for themselves, so we

were brought up to think for ourselves, read for ourselves and do

for ourselves, and be ourselves. I try to carry on in that tradition.

Did you read enough? You went to a private prep school and a grammar

school. It can't be true, but they tell me you left for two years. It

cannot be true! I have got the certificates at home! LAUGHTER

I was not academically successful as a student. Was that you kicking back

against the system...? My mother was an ever generous lady, and I said,

well, these are pretty poor, these results, she looked at me and she

said, they probably couldn't read your writing... (!) LAUGHTER

I was always interested in history, and always interested in the great

movements of history and the history of different parts of the world.

Being generous to myself here, I probably wrote over long answers to

one question because I was quite interested in the subject and forgot

the rest. Big fail. We have all been there. And then I would read lots of

things, I love the local library, where I spent a lot of time. You

went to Jamaica. Yes, where is the picture? We've got it. That's me!

Not many people know about this chapter in your life. See the

camera, see me there, it was a brilliant camera, the only problem,

it had a light leak in it, but you did not know until you had sent the

film to be processed and printed, and so you would get 24, 36

pictures, each one with a gap at the top like that, made it look like a

halo over every subject you photograph. This photograph was

taken by somebody else, that is Kingston College in Jamaica, that is

me. I was a volunteer, it was called voluntary service overseas, VSO,

good organisation, and clearly wasn't going to get into university

with two Es... (!) LAUGHTER We don't want to labour the point. I

was looking around, I found something out about this

organisation, VSO, I found the leaflet, I wrote to them and they

sent me some stuff and then I realised that you could apply as a

school lever to go abroad, to volunteer. And so I went for a very

weird interview with a lot of people. -- leaver. They said

something like, how do you feel about chickens being slaughtered, no

idea why it I was asked this question, I said, I'm not very keen

on it, I'm a vegetarian, but if people want to eat meat, that is up

to them. They said, that's OK, we will give you the position. They

wrote me a letter afterwards, very kind of them. A lot of long letters

being written at this point in your life. There was no e-mail in those

days. No mobile phone. And so I was asked if I would be paired to go to

Malawi, which I would, very happy to do, farming and youth work there.

Coming from a rural area that was sensible, that was a good idea, and

I was used, so therefore, I could work with the youth. They change

their minds and they said, two days before I was supposed to go, sorry,

would you go to Jamaica, instead. I said, fine, that's all right. So I

went, about one week later, and I was given a series of tasks which

were to help in the school, which was wonderful, to help with youth

work and camping for the Duke of Edinburgh award, and also

volunteering to help in a polio support centre for children who have

suffered polio, because polio was tragically quite a big issue in

Jamaica, also volunteered to help in a theatre, producing Jamaican plays,

five, six years after independence. A big chapter, lots of people don't

know about it. I am trying to supervise sports activities in the

school there. With your camera. We have lots more pictures coming your

way, shortly... No, we haven't, really! LAUGHTER

We have got to move on. With a story that is close to your heart, Jeremy,

it is about trains. VOICEOVER: Four o'clock in the morning, I'm with a

team of final engineers, at the box railway tunnel in Wiltshire, to

answer a great British engineering mystery. Normally, it would be in

credibly foolish, not to mention criminal to walk here, that is

because trains thunder along these tracks between Bath and Twickenham

at 125 mph. Today they have been stopped for engineering works,

giving us the chance to conduct a very date specific experiment.

Today, June nine -- April nine, would have been the 211 the Bay of

Isambard Kingdom Ronaldo and it is believed that he engineered the box

tunnel so that every year on his birthday, the rising Sun would shine

directly through from one end to the other, creating an astonishing

effect. The spectacle has not been seen for 175 years because GW are

trains have denied that the opportunity to stand and look. Does

it really happen? -- GWR. The rumour began one year after the tunnel was

completed, prompted by just one eyewitness account. Luke Holm is, at

Bristol's Brunel Institute, has tracked it down. We were able to

find a small reference in the railway Times, 1842. At least one

person has seen the elimination shine through the tunnel. The sun

shone through as though the whole tunnel had been guilt. Did he have

formed doing this? -- gilt. -- Luke Holmes. There is a real appetite for

innovation and doing something different, he is a great risk taker.

He likes to challenge the form of engineering. If he sees a design

that he feels will work, he feels the need to almost dogmatically go

after that design, ignoring all the problems in his way. Many of

Brunel's successes were world-renowned engineering firsts

when they were built. The Clifton suspension Bridge had the longest

span in the world, BSS Great Britain was the largest ionship, and the box

tunnel was the longest railway tunnel, but will the sun really

shine all the way through it today, on Brunel's birthday. -- the SS

Great Britain. Joining me from new civil engineer magazine, Mark

Hansford. We wait for the sun to rise. Is it possible? Absolutely, we

did the numbers, use the charts that Brunel had available, showing the

inclination of the sun in the sky at this time of year and it shows that

the sun does track through the route of the tunnel, at this time of year.

So, let's see. We wait at the western end, another team based at

the eastern end watches the sun rising.

I can definitely see the other end of the tunnel has lit up a little

bit but I am not seeing the big blow, the dramatic effect that we

perhaps are expecting. The sun has not shone all the way through to our

western end of the tunnel. But as it comes up, our team at the eastern

end is witnessing something rather special:

the sun moves across the tunnel opening, getting more and more

central, until, at one point, it is framed perfectly by the arch of the

tunnel, and light floods in. So I would like to think that maybe,

Brunel did design it this way. We have no idea if he saw the tunnel

light up or whether he planned for it to, but what a special way to

celebrate the great engineer's birthday.

STUDIO: That is stunning. Absolutely lovely. Box tunnel. Absolutely

beautiful. I grew up near there, I was born near box tunnel,

Chippenham. We don't just throw this together, we knew that. LAUGHTER

So you mean this is not just random good luck, this is thought out? We

know that you love trains and that you have a strong passion for

decorative manhole and drain covers! Takes all sorts... Don't you?

LAUGHTER After this game, we will. Three

manhole covers, each for you, each will reveal a question, pick your

first. I will go for number one. You know that one... Thomas... The

famous one. Of course. Don't labour the point...! Otherwise we might get

into trouble. It is you in an Arsenal scarf.

Football runs in your family, we know that you have been refereeing

under tens recently, the question is, who is easier to keep control

of, 10-year old or the Parliamentary Labour Party? Ten-year-olds...! No

hesitation whatsoever! Do you want to three next. Let's go for number

two. This manhole, beautiful, all the way from Kyoto, in Japan...

Isn't it lovely. 6000 types of decorative manholes in Japan. That

is your allotment, we understand. That was not taken this year, by the

way. What is it about the allotment that you love? It is open space, a

chance to grow things, the chance to reflect on things and a chance to

just unwind and be yourself, and chat to all the other allotment

holders, exchanging plants and all of that. There is something magic.

You grow your own beans, your own potatoes, your own corn, take it

home and... Grow fruit trees, and then you turn the fruit trees into

jam, and I would like to present The One Show with a jar of my jam!

APPLAUSE Jeremy Corbyn thank you very much

for your time and your jam today. We will not know who has won the

general election until the early hours of June nine, at the earliest,

but we can reveal the outcome of another important contest today, the

setting, a beach in East Lothian, the result is very much in the

balance, watch this. My name is James, today I am taking part in the

first ever European stone stacking championships here in Dunbar,

Scotland. The art of balancing stones is, I guess, it is like a

combination between science and art. You are looking for the

imperfections in the stones, where you can sit the top stone and get

three points of contact. If you get your centre of gravity right through

those three points, then, in good weather conditions, it will stand

up. It is really addictive. I have stopped the car when there is a wall

falling over, to help put it back together, make it a bit more

creative. Everybody go to your positions and I will call the start

time. My name is James, I am the organiser of today's competition.

Most people look for sandy beaches, the stones staggers are a different

breed, they tend to look for beaches without sand and lots and lots of

rocks. -- stone stackers. We expect 500 visitors today from all around

Europe, very exciting, people from Spain, France, all around England

and Scotland. This beach in Dunbar has such a variety of different

stones to work with. It is a little breezy, that will make it even more

exciting. The deeper you go down, the smaller the stones you will

find. My name is Martin McCluskey, I am a

judge at today's European stone stacking championships. -- Martine.

What is at stake here is the opportunity to go to the world stone

stacking championships in Texas. There is a lot to gain from winning.

If you main categories today, the greatest number of stones stacked

wins the first category. The second category, against the clock. Three,

two, one. Go! And the third, and artistic challenge. Sometimes it can

be just one stack that we can be looking for that says it all,

beautifully made. Sometimes it might be, then installation that we are

looking for, something that is more of a wider sort of composition.

People like stacks that look like they have happened by magic. These

kind of things are wondrous to see. It defies gravity. It's just

amazing. I don't know the physics of it... That is because I didn't do

good at physics at school! People do it as a meditative practice, people

do it because they like to go away and spend time on their own with the

stones. I come at it from an artistic point of view.

For me, the work of balancing stones is like balancing myself! Some of

the stacks, you think, how can they have done that without any glue or

blue tag to keep it balanced. It is quite relaxing. Blu Tac. -- waiting

for the judges to see what they think, I have done all that I can

do, I hope that they like it. -- Blu Tac.

The first competition, the most stones balance... In second place,

we have, James Brunt! ! Congratulations, well done. Thank

you very much. For the overall winner, again, all the way from

Spain, Pedro Duran! I did not think I would like the

competitive element, but it gets the adrenaline going, I will definitely

come back next year, the competition is quite exciting! STUDIO: Congrats,

that is it for today, we will be back tomorrow with David Dimbleby

and a performance from Elkie Brooks! ..team them up with

a Michelin starred chef,