31/05/2017 The One Show

Why Hello welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And he's back

again, it's Ore Oduba. It's like I never leave here. I wouldn't miss

out on this sow. We have the Queen of British blues, Elkie Brooks.

APPLAUSE She's here performing live. Her

Sunshine Affer the Rain hit later on the show. As four our other guests

all eyes will be on him as he veils in eight days' time as he veils who

our next Prime Minister will be. What tie will he be wearing? Yes.

Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Welcome to Question Time.

Tonight. Tonight. This is Question Time. Question Time. Welcome to

Question Time. Sorry to say, time's up. It's David Dimbleby.

APPLAUSE You haven't got a tie. I should have

put a tie on. It's casual this show, David. That is what I thought. They

all send messages. I didn't want to send out a message. Bees, sharks.

Exactly. People read read into it. Jeremy came on, Jeremy! Jeremy

Corbyn came on last night. You called him Jeremy all the way

through. Yes, I did. He wasn't wearing a tie. It Was interesting.

You seemed to give imhad the jam that he'd made, which he then gave

back to you. You said, What a surprise" ". You presented it to him

and he presented it back to us. He wanted to give us it. Have you tried

the jam? Not yet. Why not. We are having a tea party this week. We

didn't have scones. Back to the ties. Ties. We were thinking is

there a process you go through in terms of deciding which tie is most

appropriate for the big occasions? Yes. It's hopeless. I have lots and

lots after doing Question Time for 20 years or more. I have 90 or 100

ties. I I keep thinking -- I've worn that one. I go through the business

of the symbolism. Is it suitable? Does it send a political message?

Mustn't have that. That shark doesn't send it to one political

parties, but to all political parties. I haven't chosen one. I got

three, four more ties sent me that I asked. What do you do with the ones

you don't use? I use them a bit. Occasionally I send them to people

who think they can auction them at fetes. For charity. Good idea. Well,

you know. I like my ties. I wear blue suit, white shirt, what can I

do. A tie sends a message that, you know, it's not dead serious.

Exactly. I don't wear boring ties. Only the best for David. You have an

epic week of broadcasting ahead you won't have time to decide on ties.

Nonstop. We thought we would ask our viewers to give you inspiration.

Good. The call out to you out there. Please send in a picture of you

wearing - Send your You might not tie. Get it in time. You said you

have loads. We will show some of them later oond give out David's

address so you can send Only polite tie them. S not indecent. We can use

more space, some desk space, me, wardrobe space, sofa space. I'm

shrinking here. I'm trying to keepcoo the weight off Alex. Cheers.

It would seem if you are a perspective homeowner and in the

market for a bigger place you may find yourself left wanting. Here is

Alex Riley. There's no denying, it our homes are definitely getting

smaller. Some of the houses and flats being built in Britain are

said to be the smallest in Europe. But how small is too small? The

Government says the acceptable minimum living space is 37 square

meters. That's about this big. Cosy. But maybe could do with a bit of

work. But here in Barnet, North London, there are plans to squeeze

254 flats into this old office block. Some of them are, well, a

little on the tiny side. Plans submitted to Barnet Council the

smallest studio flat here could be 16 square meters. That's just 4x4

meters. Smaller than a standard room in a budget hotel. Prices here will

be anything but budget. It's thought a flat could go for ?180,000. There

are more so-called micro apartment schemes in development across the

UK. So how are the developers getting awhich with not meeting

those minimum size guidelines? Kate Webb is from Shelter. She says

permitted development means office conversions like this one don't need

to meet the minimum living space standards. Councils can't hold

developers to account in the same way over the size of the property,

the quality and, crucially, whether it's affordable enough. If you

imagine what it's like to live in a studio flat carved out of this

building you are potentially talk about being in a room 4x4 meters.

You are cooking, sleeping and relaxing in one space. There are

links between people's mental health, wellbeing and the quality of

their accommodation. What do homebuyers think of these micro

flats? This doesn't feel bigger than my wardrobe. We have furniture,

shall we do interior design and see what it would feel like? Why not?

It's a bit cramped. It's giving me flashbacks to uni, living in halls.

Is that the kitchen. What about wardrobes. Young people, it's hard

to get on the ladder. Is something like this a good solution? As a

first-time buyer a loophole on to the property ladder. I would want to

invite people over, but they would be sitting on the bed. One man who

thinks small really can be beautiful. Richard is an architect

who specialises in transforming the smallest of spaces into homes. You

could have a pullout wardrobe, just there. At that point.

You can store everything. At low-level you can have a pullout

sliding shoe store. Richard, this looks good on paper. What we are

talking about here is people living in effectively a rabbit hutch. It's

as tight as it gets. If you have a window here and there you will get

lights at different times of day. As a starter home, rather than paying

large rents and not having anywhere to start off for young people, if it

has good design it can work. You have to hope a developer is

consensus to want to do a really good job of it. Who wants to live in

this Red Square box unless it was well designed. That is how the

developers need to actually address this issue. Meanwhile, that 254 flat

plan, including the 16 meter square studio flats, was given the go-ahead

under those permitted development rules this month, despite Barnet

Council said the apartments would not be appropriate living spaces.

The developer said more detailed designs would meet nationally

predescribed standards but they couldn't yet how many would meet the

minimum living space. Some people said a all good things come in small

packages, but when it comes to where you live, how small would you be

prepared to go? It would be so much easier if we were all this size.

Question Time is coming from Barnet tomorrow night. Have a look. Sunday

ushgs have Tim Farron and Nicola Sturgeon in Edinburgh. Friday May

and Corbyn in York. Yes It's different. The leaders aren't

appearing on stage at the same time? We did this last election. There is

a lot of argument about whether, like tonight's debate, after us

actually. Straight after. Whether May should be, the Prime Minister

should be there and all that. They are different chemistry. What I do,

on Question Time with them in York, is not do it myself. The audience

does it. That is something that they say they are always meeting the

public. When you meet a Question Time audience made up of half

Labour, half Torrey or quarter Labour, quarter Torrey, undecided

you get put on-the-spot. It is an interrogation. Not like Jeremy packs

monk doing his Channel 4 thing, really letting the audience - when

we did it in Leeds, at the last election, it was powerful. People

were speaking from their own experience. Whether it was about,

you know, old age or whether it was about business taxes, whatever, they

were all saying - what are you going to do about this? The things that

worry them. I wouldn't say it was better than head-to-head, but we see

head-to-head in the House of Commons. Actually, it's often not

very informative. I mean, I think... Well, I hope that the two main party

leaders in York will be really - they will get roasted. You know.

This year being so dramatic with the Brexit and the snap election. They

have plenty to talk about? Plenty to talk about if they talk about it. I

haven't heard much talked about Brexit, have you? It's the main

issue is Brexit and, you know, people just won't start exploring

what that means or how it will work. I hope in York we'll get a bit of

that. I'm sure you will help guide it in that I hope so direction. .

8th June, David will be your tenth Election Results. As anchor. Let us

remind ourselves when you appeared alongside your father Richard in

your first broadcast back in 1964. I remember it well. Exeter is scornful

of the fuss made by Billericay of getting the results in first. At the

last of the boxes came in a few moments ago. Now they are checking

the votes. This is David Dimbleby at Exeter. Thank you, son.

APPLAUSE How about that? You must have the

fondest memories of that one, do you? I do remember it well. It's the

only one I did. He died the year after. Accents, is my accent still

like that. The counters and so on... Not as posh. Very posh. You are more

working-class. Not posh any more. What is your most memorable

election? Um, the ones that are really turning points are exciting.

Thatcher's victory, the first one I did in 79. Blair's victory in 97.

They are exciting. The unexpected one, the last elections when we had

the exit poll. We go into a little room. We are locked-in a room,

quarter of an hour before 10.00 and we are told the result of the exit

poll. We are not allowed out we are escorted to the studio. In that

quarter hour you could make a lot of money. I know the result of the

election. Thats with a very exciting moment when we, you know, everybody

was, sort of, amazed that the Tories had just scraped in. Actually, the

truth is that every tiny bit of an election is interesting. It's

like... You know when you follow the Grand National you have to know all

the horses, riders and history of the horses. For me the election is

like that. Know all the constituencies, all the people.

There are is to stories in Scotland, Wales. Something has been happening

in the last three weeks. What the young are doing. What are the old

are doing. It's a riveting picture of the political scene and I find

that the exciting thing. So that when we reach 7.00am and it's done

you think - well, a whole new political world has now opened for

the next five years. Sometimes though it's not done at 7.00am. For

one you were up for 18-hours. Yes. You were on air. Somehow trying to

keep your Seve wake. A marathon. Fed - No problem. If you have a camera

like that, looking at you, the chances of actually falling asleep

are quite remote. I don't know. I wouldn't past it some people, David.

Depends what you are being asked. Physical you are being asked

interesting things. The thing is, there is so much going on. I've got

16 television screens. Pictures coming in from all over the country.

Information coming in in packages about swings and voters and this and

that. You are busy all the time. Adrenaline, isn't it? Yes. You have

to have snacks, haven't you? I hardly have a snack. There was a

Mars Bar. It was fate al. I started eating a Mars Bar. Robin Day, lovely

man, with the bow tie. He was my great hero. The first one I had

done. He would interview he would be four or five minutes. They say,

"quick cut back to David, result from Reading" or something. It was

the end of Mars Bars. I don't eat... I hardly eat anything. I don't have

a secret thing to do. A tiny cup of coffee. A cup of coffee. He knows

the guy running the studio will be with me. Let's see him. Don't pick

out the team just yet. Come on. He's my boss. Come in. You have to come

on now. It's not the first time he's been on telly. The floor manager. He

was on a rival network the other day. It's true. A cup of coffee,

sometimes a banana. He has his best shirt on tonight. He didn't know I

was going to do that. You will be on telly next week. Too much to

mention, we will do at the end of the show. Thank you very much. Thank

you David and Rob. Many of you will will remember John Noakes this week.

He did incredible stunts. How many could you get away with these days.

Whatever the health and safety concerns, if there was a challenge,

John was the go to guy. John had no fear. He's the only

person I've ever known who never showed fear. He didn't appear to

have. Nelson's Column has had over 600 weight of droppings changed off

it. I went to see how they are getting on. It's only held on with a

rope. This was the most exceptional film he made. You directed it? I

sort of directed it, yes. I refereed more than directed. It was all about

scooping up the pigeon droppings that had got in behind the bronze

bit underneath Nelson's plinth. They put the ladder up. It was 180 foot

all the way up. Health and safety, if you were physically able to do

it, it is wasn't much of a problem. The real problem happened when he

got towards the top because the ladder sort of went back on itself.

It was an overhang? He had to hang on for dear life. He was supporting

his weight. Almost immediately I got a noise in my ear from the sound

recorders. He's got to do it again. He said, why, I can't explain he has

to do it again. John did. He was incredibly brave. That's a bit

dirty. Never mind, I don't suppose anybody will see that. That is

exceptional. Unforgettable piece of television. Unforgettable character.

He's a brave lad. This Is What Is Called Holding Onto

The Cup Of Tea. The Thing About John In The Studio, Anything Could

Happen. That Wasn't Planned, It Wasn't Rehearsed. Great stuff,

Goodlad, John. He was an predictable in the studio. You never know if you

would remember his words or not, he never knew if he'd remember his

words are not. One of the RAF 30 and Nimrod aircraft is specially

adapted. It's the Nimrod. Are based at Kinloss, in Scotland, where I

joined a group preparing for reconnaissance patrol. I wanted to

do a film about these aeroplanes so we went there to get a shot of one

taking off, it had been raining and the aeroplane thundered past and

this great spray, and this new film camera had a lot of electrics in it

and it shorted out. And there was nothing they could do to get it

restarted so I had to go back to the RAF and say we had no film camera,

we couldn't make the film. Immediately they tasked the Hercules

to go all the way back down to Brize Norton to pick up another, and that

was only because it was John Noakes. I don't think they would have done

it for anybody else. I always felt vaguely telepathic with John, I felt

I would knew what he would say or do before he did it on and think he

felt the same about bees are we got pretty well. He was totally genuine

and empathised with him every time I worked with him and I think that it

was did too and I think that was his legacy. It's so interesting that

people wanted to join the BBC afterwards and work on Blue Peter is

his legacy is still. Think it was one of the sole reason is that

people didn't just want to be TV presenters, they wanted to be on

Blue Peter because of John Noakes. He will be remembered with fondness

and affection by millions. Whole generations enjoyed his

performances, what he did, they enjoyed his sense of humour, they

loved his bravery and I worked with him for about 17 years and I'm going

to miss him terribly. He was a good friend.

APPLAUSE What a legend, you will sadly be

missed by all and we said our love to his family. Absolutely. Elkie

Brooks is here with us. Elkie Brooks. Great to see you, a new

album out and a tour including a day at the Palladium which I'm sure will

be incredibly special. And some new material written by a very special

person. Brian Adams. How about that. They sent me an amazing track, after

listening to just a couple of bars I said yes, I have to do that song. I

had to listen to it about a hundred times before I could get my head

around it. Is in the brain. Only just! Punchbag and David said he had

been listening to you this afternoon. I was listening to Lilac

Wine, although it had a party political broadcast before it. You

go on YouTube to find Elke and you get bombarded with that. You have

been touring figures, how will this time compared to back in the 70s? As

long as the audience are really with me... Sometimes they are a bit

inhibited. But I like it when I go crazy. Because I give 100%, and I

expect 100% back. We can't wait. Pearls: The Very Best Of Elkie

Brooks is out now. It's not just political parties ramping up the

rivalry this weekend, there's the Champions League final in Cardiff

where be on Friday. Under certain cricket game in Birmingham were

according to the former England statistician the tension will be off

the scale. This weekend sees one of the greatest sporting rivalries

played out at Edgbaston in Birmingham, the ICC champions

Trophy. And on this occasion it is with England against Australia. It

is India versus Pakistan. When these two teams meet expect fireworks to

fly. India are the defending champions and Pakistan can be seen

to blow hot and cold but off the pitch that has been a history of

political and religious tension between the nations following the

partition of India and the creation of Pakistan 70 years ago. In

Birmingham both Pakistani and Indian communities have deep cultural

roots. What really unites them is cricket. Former county cricketer

Wasim Khan, born in Birmingham knows what this match means to the Asian

communities in the city. This is huge, probably the biggest Pakistani

community in the country and when we near the champions Trophy was coming

over the first fixture everyone looked for was Pakistan versus

India. It means a huge amount to both communities. There's always a

lot of passion and fire. It will be a friendly but also a hostile

atmosphere. That passion for cricket can be found all over the cricket.

This man came here years ago and has turned a disused factory into a

cricket academy. With his son they have been a significant change in

the way both communities behave towards each other. When we were

growing up and we saw that attention especially with the cricket games

and political issues added into it, I think we've grown out of that

stage, especially seeing the influx of Asian cricketers in the English

team. With United us a bit more. I have loads of Indian friends but we

have a go at each other but trust me, it's always friendly. In

celebration of the game opposing fans came to play each other in a

friendly with former England captain Mike Gatting watching. They've got a

critic Gene, the South Asians and it's amazing. What they will do to

play a game of cricket -- they have a cricket Jena. Pakistani supporters

will hope this result does not mirror the real one because India

won. Support for the game on Sunday comes from all quarters, none more

so than in what is known as the Balti Triangle, an area of

Birmingham renowned for traditional Asian cuisine. It's the big derby!

This is one of the owners of Imran's whose food bowls over the Pakistani

team when they come here. As soon as they came to Birmingham they ran us

within an hour and a half, we need some real food. It's a tradition

from my late father, 35 years we've been serving them. And with the

Indian team as well. And it's here that both sets of fans discuss what

the match means to them. Khan the best way to describe it is a

roller-coaster ride especially from the Pakistan point of view. It

doesn't matter if they'd and when anything else as long as they beat

Pakistan! End of the day it's about the cricket and that we can bring

people together. There's no segregation in the seating so it's a

great atmosphere. Who's going to win! India! Pakistan! Only a few

days to go until again. The excitement is building in Birmingham

and while the vast majority of the Asian population may not have

tickets, that certainly won't dampen the celebrations surrounding it. If

you've got a ticket if a hot one in Birmingham. We have been loving your

Dimble-ties. This is one of Peter's collection, he has more than a

hundred, beating me. This is the giraffe tie. And this is Charles's

best tie, the newcomer David, he's got the ducks. That's almost all

that we've got time for, thanks to our guest David, you Will soon be

seeing him everywhere over the next week, specifically Sunday at 830 and

five blog on BBC One. Stay tuned for the election debate right after us

on BBC One. We are fair tomorrow but will be live in Cardiff on Friday to

see the preparations for one of the biggest sporting events in the

world, the Champions League final between Juventus and real Madrid.

Looking forward to going home! She's going home, everyone. Now with a

classic song Sunshine After The Rain, give it up, everybody, it's

Elke! APPLAUSE

# I pass a place we used to go

# It keeps on raining down on me

# Will there be a day when the sun will shine

# I want to see the sunshine after the rain

# I want to see bluebirds flying over the mountains again

# Oh where is the silver lining

# Tomorrow brings a sunny day and happy things

# Just like the way it used to be

# I want to see the sunshine after the rain

# I want to see bluebirds flying over the mountains again

# Oh where is the silver lining

# Shining at the rainbow's end

# I pass a place we used to go

# Will there be a day when the sun will shine

# I want to see the sunshine after the rain

# I want to see bluebirds flying over the mountains again

# Oh where is the silver lining

# Shining at the rainbow's end

# I want to see the sunshine after the rain

# I want to see bluebirds flying over the mountains again

Four crickets have the same amount of calcium as a glass of milk,

It's cold. Tastes a bit like avocado.

And soon we're all going to be eating them.