30/09/2011 The One Show

Hello, welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker. It is

the night I have been dreading for weeks. Yes, it is the start of

Strictly Come Dancing 2011, where 14 of us will be doing our best

impressions of real dancers. Which should give our guest an

Nice to see you again. Are you dreading it as much as Alex?

Tonight? Well, I woke up at 5am. I thought, what are those steps? I

got out my iPod and I started around the bedroom, colliding with

a chest of drawers. Every time I turned around, quickly, it would go

on to the next track. It gets to you, doesn't it? I haven't even got

the track on my iPod. This worries me. She's got a string quartet in

her bedroom! We spent quite a lot of time together over the last

couple of weeks. We know that you like to do a bit of a prissy

impression. AS BRUCE FORSYTH: It goes with the territory, yes.

was a bit taken aback, when you started doing your impression of

him? When everybody does the warm- up, I can't resist... AS BRUCE

FORSYTH: We love to dance. Going up behind Tess Daly, changed that

joke! Turns around, God! He is a legend. It is officially the

hottest last day of September in a century. If you've been enjoying

Later, we will be finding out why Queen guitarist Brian May has

turned investigative reporter. As he well knows, there is just an

hour and a half before his wife, Anita Dobson, and half of the

dancers perform for the first time. These were the scenes earlier,

queues of people dying to get in. You said you saw some with sun

burn? There were queues of them, they had been sunbathing all day.

It's like Centre Court tickets! At least we've got a roof on

Television Centre, we are guaranteed some play. You're left

in no doubt that the public owns the show. The tide of goodwill,

optimism, just warmth. If there is one thing I remember, it is this

sickness phase you are going through at the moment. It really

doesn't get any better. It gets progressively worse. You get less

time to be sick. Anyway, you will be fine. You know what we are going

through. Just enjoy it. Earlier today I went to Strictly

headquarters to capture the anxiety, the panic and to disturb Edwina

Curry in her underwear! So, here we are. This is where

everybody arrives and get out of their cars. This is Television

Centre. Harry! How are you? Amusing way through my hands. Can I come

out? My partner, we did a rehearsal yesterday and she was extremely

nervous. If you get nervous, it means that you care. In a few weeks

you have been dancing with James, your buttocks have turned up.

on! I call her Bambi, she is my little Bambi. She's not the most

co-ordinated person in the world, but she is improving massively.

That is all I can ask for. Alex! Yes. Good luck with that, James.

This is everybody's lunch. Somebody has got some fish and chips. Over

here is where they keep all of the glamorous costumes. We are not

really allowed in here. We will Transit! Just in their... Edwina is

getting changed! -- we will transfer it. After yesterday, I

literally lost the plot. I couldn't even hear the music starting. Well,

here we are in make-up. This is probably the most relaxing part of

the day. It is also the part when you think about how nervous you

are! This is the really important that. All of the professional

dancers will walk through these doors to get into the studio. This

is where I will be feeling really I feel the need to applaud after

that, I think it's marvellous. How has everything going with your

training? We've got some footage. Erin is fantastic. I've got the

best possible partner. Let's look at you in action. Good lines.

are very quiet. Incredibly quiet. I'm thinking what to do. I have to

dress in black because of the World Cup. She is from New Zealand, that

is my All Blacks outfit. I think we should change the rules, when you

are standing at the top of the stairs, they put a heartbeat into

the music. They say, and now... We did think of that in our dance

at the end. The freestyle. Or the Birdie Song? How I your teeth?

had root canal surgery on Monday. Excuses! It it doesn't affect my

dancing. But, you know, my face just smelt -- swelled up like a

balloon. I thought, I don't want that happening at the show. To a

man and woman, it's a great bunch of people. Jason is so funny.

brilliant! I feel that I've got a string on the top of my head, and a

poll up my backside. And Russell, he couldn't be happier, darling! I

am so happy! And Vincent, I spoke to Vincent today... He has got a

very strange way of speaking. Nancy and Anton is worth watching

tomorrow. When I get nervous, actually, I just go into doing and

Do you find when you spend time with people that you start

automatically impersonating them? Or do you think you will do a bit

of homework? I'd been doing it a lot recently. People have been

asking if I can do impressions in the dancing. Occasionally, doing

the salsa, I'll do Sean Connery. It becomes the shalsa. Ended say that

she loved dancing with a different celebrity each day. She's brilliant.

Have you got Alex done? She came on and said, are there any Fritz? She

was so excited, she arrived on the set. -- fruits. But, I mean...

Before this, you were known for doing so more political stuff on

Channel 4. Why do you then feel that you want to enter the world of

spray tan? There was such a tide of positive energy. You say, I'd been

asked to do Strictly. They say, I love that show! There comes a time

when you shouldn't take yourself too seriously. Take the show CVC,

but not yourself. You throw yourself into it. I was worried I

would make Ann Widdecombe look like Ginger Rogers. The worst thing that

can happen is that you will be totally humiliated, someone once

said. And I like fake tan! We'll take our mind of the dancing with

comfort food. There's nothing better than a freshly baked loaf of

bread. But some are better than others. Here's a question for you.

How many loaves of bread does the average household eat in one year?

Invented in 1961, the Chorleywood baking process provides 80% of the

bread that we eat now, boosted by extra yeast and additives, it is

cheaper, faster and baked in huge quantities. But it has not been

without critics. Many say it has made bread Dole and reduces flavour.

Others point to the large amounts of salt used in some loaves of

bread. But there is an alternative bread that can be traced back as

far as Ancient Egypt. Now, as then, the sourdough method relies on

naturally-occurring used, rather than blocks of commercial yeast.

The foul and water then entered here is the basis. -- flower. As

the yeast keeps reproducing, bakers keep starter dough that dates back

years. It breathes life into bread to make it rise. The good way about

making this bread, you don't need much commercial yeast or salt

either. Each mix needs just a small amount of starter dough. As long as

you keep feeding it with flour and water, the precious used within the

starter just keeps reproducing. Ind deary, it can live for centuries. -

- In Theory. Some of these starter doughs have past two generations,

crossing Continents on the way. was brought over by our head baker

from South Africa and it has stayed here ever since. Are they is a

fanatical? When they arrive in the area, they will share it with other

bakers and create their own starter. They will feed it and it just

becomes their life, really. It becomes part of them. Time to

uncover the secrets of the well- travelled yeast with in this mother

DoH. This is coming with me. This is a East Bank in Leatherhead,

where hundreds of different strains are analysed, perhaps locked and

frozen in liquid nitrogen at temperatures of -190 degrees

centigrade. Science is insuring the tradition of artisan the yeast is

not lost to future generations of brewers and bakers. Some clients

have their own strain that they guard very jealously. We are able

to bat bat for them and look after it for them. It's a sort of a back

stock in case they have some sort of a disaster. -- Bank that for

them. This living collection of the state back to the late 1800s. It

contains 850 strains. I've brought one more for analysis. You have to

have a look at the sample that we have brought to you from rosy's

bakery. That would be great. are really enthusiastic about it

aren't you? Definitely, it's fascinating. It's going to take a

few days to analyse the unique properties of the sourdough yeast.

Back at the bakery I am carrying I can see why it is called sour

dough. There is a pronounced Tanni nest to it. It is a Joel -- chore

worker. You must be very proud? It is good stuff. The effort involved

means that sourdough often costs double the price of standard bread.

But you really get what you pay for. And not about to suggest that all

bread should be baked this way. There is always going to be a place

for industrial scale breaking -- baking, producing a lot of bread at

affordable prices. But it's good to see that with the help of artisan

bakers, the old sourdough alternative is thriving. As for the

analysis of the dough, it looks like an about to find out the

results. Speaking of results, Rory, how many

do you think? How many loaves of bread? 150. It is 80. Food would

have thought? More results! I had in my hand some a GAR jelly with

the yeast from rosy's bakery. It's not that great, they Iraq three

different kinds of yeast in here. In the kind of bread you buy from

the supermarket, there is only one. That is what is so great about

sourdough bread. It's a much more serious blow for bread. I've got a

serious bread face on. I'm glad you have an appropriate face. Sourdough

is quite expensive, but prices are bred in general are rising? There

was a big spike between 2006 and 2008. It went up from 75p to �1.28.

UN sliced bread is slightly cheaper than sliced. The less they do to it,

the more you get. The problem is, it is all about wheat. That is now

an international commodity. It is traded around the world. The

harvest has been pretty good, but there is a whole host of factors

that can influence that. Supermarkets try to keep the price

down, because it is what gets people into the shops. But we can

never guarantee that it will always be cheaper. It has been a bad

summer? The wheat harvest is looking pretty good across the

world. Talking of people that buy their bread from supermarkets, they

are missing out on variety? I'm not going to condemn any body for

having a busy life and getting their bread from supermarkets. What

bothers me is that we risk losing those artisan skills of baking. If

it all becomes industrialised, nobody will know how to make the

stuff. You get very individual bread from local bakers. Nothing

better. You off bread? It's just a chance to do a bit of detox. While

I'm doing Strictly I just wanted to... Slim down? Dancers are so

careful about what they eat. I think bread is something I just

thought I would... You don't want a Have some of that. This is Japanese

bread, wrapped in cooky dhow. Brian May is one of our most

successful musicians, but when he was last here, he told us he would

rather be remembered for his love of animals than for music. One of

his passions is the protection of badgers. He is worried about the

proposed Cole, which the Government says is needed to protect cattle

from TV. -- cult. Here we are in the beautiful

countryside and how peaceful it looks, but there is a war going on

out here between people who want to protect their cattle from disease

and those who want to protect wildlife. Badger culling is a

proposal, as part of a wider controlled programme for bovine TB,

a very serious disease of cattle in many parts of England. I think the

notion that we could actually eliminate the disease by culling

badgers is completely misguided. The Government is about to license

the killing of hundreds of thousands of badgers in an attempt

to control bovine TB. Are they justified? TV is a disease called

by breathing in airborne droplets from an infected animal. Right now,

farmers have to kill any cow that has tested positive for TB to try

to control the spread of the disease. That is why they are upset.

For years, the finger of suspicion has been pointed out badgers. --

pointed at badgers. I am here because I believe animals have

feelings and my work to try to protect wildlife. If the two sides

can pool their resources, there is a chance of beating the disease of

bovine TB in cattle and in badgers. Badgers living a network of tunnels

which can be hundreds of years old. But they live in a network of

tunnels. They are a protected species. Jan is the spokesman for

bovine TB for the National Farmers' Union and runs a dairy farm in the

middle of a TV hot spot. How many badger setts in the neighbourhood?

Probably five main ones that affect us. This is probably one of the

entrance holes and there are more back in the bushes of there.

1971, that is the time when a badger was first found on a farm

with TB. It began at that point. It appeared that TB had gone from the

cattle into the badgers. That has to be the assumption. But it was

only since it came up the Cotswold escarpment towards us, in the

badgers, and we saw it in the badgers on this farm before it got

into the cattle. One year, three different badgers that we found

dead had TB, and the next time we had a TB test, about six months

later, we went down with it and have been going down of the sense.

You are assuming badgers are the main problem. A lot of people would

say it is more from one account to another. It is only when you get

cattle living alongside the endemic effected badger population that you

get this persistent recurrent TB. The transmission route from badgers

to cattle has not been proven. Animal welfare group the badger

trust reject the theory that badgers are the main cause of

transmission of the disease. They believe that infected cattle slip

through TB testing and infect the rest of the herd. The so-called

skin test to test cattle at the moment is at best only 80% accurate.

So we hear this figure from farmers about 25,000 cattle being

slaughtered last year in England alone. And we feel sorry about that,

as we do about the death of badgers. But what that means is that there

are over 6000 infected cattle left in the national herd. That is the

single biggest problem. A ten-year scientific study concluded that

culling badgers cannot make any significant difference, so why are

farmers still pushing for it? I am saying is that we have passed

evidence here that it makes a very big difference. The proposed

culling areas we are talking about are going to be much bigger. We are

going to look carefully at the boundaries of those areas. We are

talking about culling badgers in close proximity to cattle in the

south-west of the country where we know we have a problem. If this is

not the right solution, what is the solution? We very strongly believe

in vaccination for both cattle and badgers. Why are you rejecting

vaccination? It is colossally expensive to use and totally

unproven as to whether it actually reduces the disease enough in

badgers to stop its billing back into cattle. You and I strongly

believe in the long run vaccination will be the answer, probably

vaccination in cattle, but we are many years away from that being

allowed an being effective. We are going to head towards 40,000 cattle

being killed the game this year. We have to do something about it.

would it take for you to sit down at a table with people like the

badger trust? I am sure that I and a few colleagues would be happy to

sit down with them and try to get a better understanding of where they

are coming from. Would you be amenable to that? Certainly, we

would be amenable to any discussion that might move things forward.

These talks are now going ahead but we need them to succeed in finding

some new answers, because if they do not, we will soon be looking at

slaughter of our wildlife on a huge scale. Bryan joins us now. What did

you have to achieve by making this film? First, awareness, because I

meet people in the street who go, what, what is going on? I want

people to know there is this terrible crisis and we are looking

at losing thousands of badgers, a lot of whom would be healthy,

probably most of them. The other thing was that I was trying... I

rejected the idea that we should fight the farmers. Many people

think that would be the way to go, to boycott the farmers. I thought

from the beginning that was a bad idea and the way to conquer the

disease is to team up with farmers and try to help them solve their

problems. And did your views change when you met up with the farmer?

kind of knew the script. Both sides are entrenched. He is great. I

think he tells his story very well and I have great sympathy for him

and the farmers going through this. But my contention is that Carling

is not the way to go, particularly the one which has been proposed by

the Government at the moment. -- culling. It was great that we heard

that both sides are prepared to talk but what do you see as the

solution? I am excited that they are going to talk in the same room

together and I will be there. I hope to see some thinking outside

the box. Both sides have to rethink. Vaccination is what I would like to

see. It is expensive, but it should not be about money, it should be

about ethics, whether we should be killing healthy animals, or solving

our business problems in another way. There are other things. I get

unpopular when I say what else could happen. If I was a farmer and

bringing up my cows in a particular place where I knew they were going

to get sick, I would stop doing it and do it someplace else. You can

do it in East Anglia. Moving your farm? I have operated myself many

times. I know that is a hard thing to do. -- I have up rooted myself.

But there are ways around this. Culling is a very risky business.

All of those that have been done in the past have made the problem

worse, so you have made -- you are taking a terrible risk. You have

farmers who have been on the land for generations. You heard those

facts, 25,000 cattle culled last year. And it is costing the

taxpayer. Something has to be done. On that, we agreed. Am hoping there

will be enough common ground that some kind of plan can be involved -

- evolved which makes more sense and does not involve killing and

killing, because that will go on forever. In other news... Your wife,

Anita Dobson, a huge night for her. How is she feeling? How has she

been? Well, it is hell. She is in Boot Camp, but she loves it. I have

never seen that Lady so happy. She loves every minute. She does not

want to win, just to stay in long enough so she can do the training.

She adores every aspect, the dressing up, the make-up. Sprayed

Tam, for God's sake. She is a serious Shakespearian actress.

think they need a vaccination programme for dancers! Thank you

for your photos. We know that it is not sunny everywhere, so send some

pictures of you in the rain as well. Jamie Crawford as a story of a

British landscape photographer who started horsing around to settle a

bet. It is so easy to take split- second stills and slow-motion film

for granted but some of these techniques are far older than you

imagine. More of the way we see the world and how we understand bodies

in motion. It all began with a bet on the horses. Eadweard Muybridge

was an astonishingly innovative photographer who initially worked

with some of the first plate cameras in the 1860s. He put

himself in precarious positions to photographs stunning natural

landscapes. But it would be his revolutionary study of movement

that would make him famous the world over. The story goes that

railroad tycoon and horse breeder and the Allen Stanford approached

Muybridge to settle a bet on the theory of whether all four of a

horse's hooves were off the ground at any point. It was a hot topic in

the time, but seemingly impossible to prove. They had no reliable

shutters. They had to rely on their own devices for exposing the

photographic negative. So they needed long exposures in order to

let a huge amount of light into the camera. Yes, and that meant

effectively you could not capture fast movement. How did he sold it?

He set up banks of cameras and develop his own unique form of

shutter. They were set up in front of a white background and the track

was very white as well, so he would reflect a lot of light into the

lens, but the image would be better defined against the white

background. The horse would run across and trigger the threads and

it would trigger the shutter to open in one-hundredth of a second.

The horse galloped through in less than one second and each camera

caught a different stage of the motion. For the first time,

Muybridge captured motion impossible to see with the naked

eye, proving that all four of a horse's feet left the ground at the

same time, and Stamford won his bet. But Muybridge had caught more than

just an image of unsupported transit. He captured the full

anatomical process of a horse's gallop. By tracing each stage on to

a zoopraxiscope, his own invention, he was able to project the motion

16 years before the creation of the film projector in France. We have

come to Epsom Downs to recreate this momentous event and see if we

can also capture a horse in unsupported transit. Muybridge was

also surrounded by a assistance, and I am, too. Instead of using the

chemical triggers, we have a rank of people to do it manually. Here

comes a horse. The question is, have any of these cameras caught

the horse with all four feet off the ground? And here is the proof

of unsupported transit, recreating Eadweard Muybridge's technique over

130 years later. Today, we could have just filmed a horse on a high-

speed video camera. But even today, stills cameras can have the edge

over a single video camera. Imagine, for example, Muybridge's cameras

perhaps curving around the subject, capturing the action. What you get

is a virtual fly around. If it seems familiar, a version of this

technique, at times lies, was hailed as cutting edge in the

Hollywood blockbuster of the Matrix, and this clip shows all of the

stills cameras lined up, just like Muybridge's. There is no doubt that

Muybridge changed the way we see the world, making the invisible

visible by showing how bodies appear in motion. He deepen our

understanding of photography, and more than 100 years on, his

innovation still has the power to stop us in our tracks.

Unbelievable, the lengths people will go to to settle the debt.

Loads of pictures have come in. This was sent in by Kate. This was