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On The Review Show tonight: The return of Rebus. Ian Rankin

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brings his whisky-swilling, vinyl- spinning detective back from

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retirement. But is there still life in the old curmudgeon?

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The Master. It looks like director Paul Thomas Anderson's take on

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Scientology. A must-see or just cult viewing? I am a writer, a

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theoretical philosopher, but, above all, I am a man, just like you.

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Death in all its manifestations in a remarkable exhibition at Wellcome

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Collection. And Full English. Has Channel 4 found Britain's answer to

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Family Guy? This is my chance to On the panel tonight are the writer

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and critic Hannah McGill, the novelist Alex Preston, and the art

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historian James Fox. Like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle before him,

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Britain's most successful living crime writer Ian Rankin has brought

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his most popular character back. John Rebus wasn't exactly dead, but

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he is certainly out of cold storage for Rankin's 28th work of fiction.

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Though, as he told Alan Yentob in last week's Imagine, he only knew

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that the new book would feature Rebus when he found himself typing

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his name on page two. Over the previous 18 books of the

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series, Ian Rankin aged his leading man in real time, following John

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Rebus out of retirement. In Standing In Another Man's Grave, he

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has joined the Cold Case unit. The hero of his last two books, Malcolm

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Fox, pops up here, too, and takes a dim view of Rebus's return and his

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effect on his former partner, She picked up the coffee. John

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Rebus was the loosest of cannons. No constabulary had room for that

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any more. He warned her that Rebus's proximity might damage his

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chances of promotion. The action takes us north of the capital. The

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furthest he's been from an Edinburgh pub. Hints of what

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political sentiment are sewn into the story as Rebus journeys north.

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He reflects on Scotland and its future. He remembered Siobhan

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Clarke's words. It's an odd little country hard to fathom. She accused

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of coming over all defensive. In fact, he had agreed with her. A

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nation of 5 million cowered together. Clinging to the notions

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of community and shared history. Changes to the leader retirement

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age of mean that Rebus could have a new lease of life in the force.

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reason he retired is that in real time he would be 60. Now he's able

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to work until he is 67. There is potential for seven more years of

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Rebus books. Ian Rankin says he would only revive Rebus's career

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only if there was something serious to say. I'll be hanging on his

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every word? We have some very big Rebus fans. But the possibility of

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seven more years of Rebus. Was it a risk to bring him back? I found it

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fascinating. Unlike the rest of the country, I had never read a Ian

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Rankin novel and I spent the last two weeks immersing myself in

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Markham Fox and Rebus. Internal affairs? Rebus doesn't play by the

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rules and Malcolm Fox is the rules. I thought that Rebus is a fantastic

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character like Raymond Chandler. A hard-boiled detective.

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Unfortunately, this novel did not work for me in the way some of his

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earlier ones did. Even the first one, noughts and crosses, I thought

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they were incredibly well constructed. Fiercely groping. This

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one, in the documentary he describes this novel is a bit

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random and not interesting. I'm afraid that's how I felt about it.

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Is that how you found it? I read the back of the book which was

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gushing. Some body described him as a mystery writer of. But it's not

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really a mystery novel. I like that about it. For me, it was very

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evocative of what I imagine the real police work to be like. Plod,

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plod, plod, go down a blind alley, have a suspicion, it's all very

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nasty. There's not a lot of glamourous possibilities. It's very

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fitting to the character that Rebus is, someone quite depressed. He

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basically does not like life. is different is that a crime does

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not appear early. You feel that Ian Rankin is getting back into the

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Rebus groove again. It seemed to be more of a character a novel about

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Rebus, this is how he has changed. Rather than the crime of being the

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most important thing. I'd only ever seen Rebus on television a day

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spent most of the book trying to get Ken Stott out of my head. One

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thing which surprised me was how slow the novel was. It wasn't until

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page 215 when the crime gets discovered. For a crime thriller,

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there wasn't much crime and there wasn't there but role, either.

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of the things I picked up was the crime is so minor. Minor to the

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structure. A terrible crime. The antagonist, the greater villain, we

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won't reveal, is almost inconsequential. Ian said he did

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not decide who the villain was until the end. Page 273. Rebus is

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so deeply ingrained with the underworld of Edinburgh, all the

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real villains are his mates. That's fascinating and I love that. What

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is interesting about the way that he writes Rebus now is that it is

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like a method acting of. I always picture Ian up rather than Ken

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Stott. The tension in the book is that what he does in the previous

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two novels is set up his new hero, Mark, Fox, and then we have Rebus

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back and you think, Malcolm Fox, I don't like him. Maybe he did not

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like writing him -- Malcolm Fox. One thing which is charming about

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him is that Rebus has these little things he likes, vinyl records, and

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correct people's grammar. The other thing in this book is, he is the

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hard-boiled detective, but, actually, he puts social media into

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it is a clever way. It's all about profiling and using a mobile phone

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to show part of the crime scene. I think he worked on that very hard.

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So often with novelists have a certain age, taking on the internet,

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it's like William Hague wearing a baseball cap. Here, it is

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incredibly well handled. Ian Rankin is very good on it Twitter. Showing

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the way the mobile phone, and having a camera with you, you can

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have it. It's changed our lives. And how much young people used to

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go to, and the idea of the older man getting into this youngsters

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world force of the young woman, she reminded me of the new cue in Sky

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He travels through Scotland. He is saying something about Scotland.

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One of the great characters in the novel is the motorway running

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through Scotland and it's a way of thinking through ideas of what

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Scotland is about to. It's a sinister road. The death of ready

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McRae, she always believed she would be buried under it. It's the

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anonymity of the motorway, and the loss of these women. It's like all

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the people who disappear. Young women who disappear. It's not a

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sentimental, at all. There is a deep feeling of sadness. You know,

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the idea the mobile phone is supposed to connect everybody but,

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in this case, it's another sign of loss. We are in the middle of

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November and Ian will have to start on the 2nd January with his new

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book. How does he do it? Watching a documentary, that was amazing.

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Living alongside him. The fact he can at knock this thing off in a

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couple of months. Strong dialogue, as well. Is it going to be another

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Rebus book? I wanted to stick at Rebus. I didn't realise he was so

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old. I wanted to go on longer. the time he reaches 67, he can go

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on to infinity. Get the book now for Christmas. With credits that

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include Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood, and Magnolia, director

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Paul Thomas Anderson has never shied away from working at

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emotional or historical frontiers. With the release of his sixth

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feature film, starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Pheonix,

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he now shifts his attention to the emerging spiritual factions of

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The Master is set in the wake of World War II and follows Freddy

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Quell, unable officer transition in from the military to civilian life.

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Played by Joaquin Phoenix, he is trapped in a storm of his own a

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volatile emotions and dogged by alcoholism. One day, he regains

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consciousness in an unfamiliar boat. His life changes when he's

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introduced to Lancaster Dodd. a writer, a doctor, a nuclear

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physicist, a philosopher. Above all, I am a manner, just like you.

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the self-appointed leader of the spiritual movement called The Cause

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and claims to have discovered how mankind cannot rise beyond its base

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animal nature. Paul Thomas Anderson's research into this

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movement in the post-war era has clearly informed his script and

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there are parallels with the early history of Scientology. Likewise,

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the character of Lancaster Dodd appears to take evidence from its

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founder, L Ron Hubbard. Science, by definition, allows for more opinion.

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Otherwise it's the will of one man which is the basis of a cult. The

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he becomes a lieutenant to the movement, Freddy Quell, and takes

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criticism from inside his own family. He's making this up as he

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goes along. You can't see that? makes his post or aspiration and

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post-traumatic stress with a plausible alternative religion. But

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is the master likely to wow the It's hard to talk about this film

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without centring on Joaquin Phoenix at's incredibly physical

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performance and also Philip Seymour Hoffman, a dominant figure. Had you

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any idea what you're watching? was extremely divided about this

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film having seen it because it was very beautiful and the performances,

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particularly Joaquin Phoenix, was staggering. The set pieces were

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mind-boggling but, on the other hand, I found it really boring. I

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wasn't very moved by it. I think the reason was, I don't think the

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film went anywhere. It had a brilliant first hour and other two

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protagonists met and the characters did not develop. Their relationship

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didn't develop. For me, it was a film I admired greatly but I didn't

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enjoy it. Did you get a sense you started to watch Joaquin Phoenix,

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who was so damaged, and he kept on being damaged, and also of his

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performance was so mesmeric, it is almost watching a car crash.

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disagree. There was a certain static us about it. At a conversion.

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If they progress. These tricks that they use, the phoney religion which

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has been set up which they cause -- called The Cause, it's all out

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taking someone vulnerable, giving them a fake love, breaking them,

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and then winning their love. The way scientology works, you then ask

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them for money. But does not come up in this film because the Joaquin

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Phoenix character isn't financially powerful. His films are quite hard

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to get in to immediately. His films are all very long, quite distant

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and order. They don't be the automatic... There Will Be Blood

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was fantastic. There's 20 minutes with no dialogue at the beginning

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of a There Will Be Blood. The lead character is not lovable. No, but

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the difference between them is you go on a journey with the character.

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Did you? His films are work like avant garde novels. The problem

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with this is that are being in a cult isn't interesting for the here

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we have a man who has written about it. And I have attended several. I

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thought that, soon as you get to the end, the beginning was

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brilliant, we sought during the war they had a clear sense of their

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purpose in life, their direction, comradeship, they were thrust out

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into this world and suddenly they are a Lola. Beautifully shot. It is

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shot so beautifully. The idea things were coming back in after

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the war. There is no sense of things moving forward for that the

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characters do not develop. The film has no plot. I could have walked

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out for 40 minutes during the What about the relationship between

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Lancaster Dodd and his wife? That is not plot. I felt that Joaquin

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Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman eclipsed each other. Joaquin

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Phoenix is amazing, he lost a lot of weight for the part, he has his

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chiselled face, he looks weird, but he is doing it -- overdoing it a

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bit. He always has one performance that is a bit over-the-top. Tom

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Cruise in Magnolia, you know. And Joaquin Phoenix, his face is

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incredible, but every time you see his body, you saw it in that clip,

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he has this weird... He has obviously decided that is his

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thing! You have to believe in the relationship between Joaquin

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Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman. That is every film about men,

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father and son. There Will Be Blood was a father-something, and for me

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the relationship did not work. What summed it up was this strange

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lowish to Britain at the end, totally unexplained. There is a

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lack of emotional climax. I think he is being slightly perverse, and

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this film has been made at side of the commercial sector, so it does

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not had the pressure of... He said, I want to make this hugely

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expensive film, incredibly difficult but they win Oscars.

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Larry Ellison's daughter may this. If somebody came to me and said, I

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am Paul Thomas Anderson, I have got Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour

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Hoffman, I would give him a check. This is what happens when artists

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do not have to respond to commercial pressures. It did not

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satisfy you because it does not respond to a traditional trajectory.

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I thought, it just happened to me, I did not have an extreme reaction

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except for enjoying it while I was watching it. I actually prefer

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films without plot, but they need to do something to me, take me on a

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journey with the characters. think it took me somewhere that it

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did not take you. I think this film was made on 65 mm stock, I was

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lucky to see a 70 mm print, and that is very rare these days.

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Increasingly, film-makers are using digital media, and go back to the

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greatest and of medium is just wonderful to watch. The Master went

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on general release today. The only certainty in life is death, but for

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that reason we often shy away from it as a subject. A new exhibition

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of artwork and artifacts at the welcome collection explores our

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complex and often contradictory attitudes towards death and

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immortality. If you're of a nervous disposition, you might want to look

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The exhibits come from the diverse collection of a former antique

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print dealer from Chicago, Richard Harris, who set out to capture the

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essence of death through its iconography. The Western world

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including England and the US certainly are afraid of death and

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do not want to have it as part of our conversation in any way, shape

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or form. My wife and I attended the Day of the Dead in Mexico, and it

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was an eye-opening experience, to be part of it. They go to the grave

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sites and bring food that the deceased loved, they bring food and

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While one room reflects rituals and remembrance around the world,

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another displays disturbing We see it on the television

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sometimes, and it seems so far away, but when you stand in front of this

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print, it can be more visceral and strike you in a more personal

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fashion, what the results of war really can be. There are scores of

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skulls and skeletons on show, but while much of the exhibition is

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morbid and macabre, other works show a different aspect to death

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which can lift the spirits. People say, Richard, you are so ebullient,

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smiling and happy about things, how can you be collecting a subject

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like that? And I think the other aspect of death is that he sees the

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day, you know, make the most of each of your days of living on the

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Well, you know, the Wellcome Collection, to have put this on

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after Brain, to have such an all- encompassing focused exhibition,

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did it change the way you thought about death? A bit just fitted in

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exactly what my thinking about death. Going to Mexico around the

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Day of the Dead celebrations, it was very dear to my heart. I saw an

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engraving that I had sent as a postcard to my father, so I

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immediately went, I belong here! Of all the rigours you have put the

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true for the Review Show, this is something I am starry eyed about,

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it is just beautiful. In amongst it, there are the most extraordinary

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collections, but early on you realise, what a collector he is,

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where he has found this stuff, and this is just a fraction of his

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exhibition at Chicago. Indeed, and he has assembled this over quite a

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short period of time, 12 years, and in the catalogue he says, thanks to

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his wife Barbara for patience and understanding. When you see the

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collection that he has obsessively assembled over the past 12 years,

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Barbara Harris does have the patience of a saint! Apparently she

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has told him to stop. I think it is great because you might say he is a

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magpie, but he has collected notions of debt from practically

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every culture, Japanese, Indian... That is what is so wonderful. I was

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terrified about singers, I am a huge hypochondriac, so scared of

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dying, but he was there, and he just kind of took me around and

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kept saying, I just want it to be uplifting. The thing that is

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comforting about it is how universal so many of the images are,

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the dance macabre, a medieval chronicle up to the pictures from

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Japan, the Tibetan sketches, the Day of the Dead in Mexico. We are

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all terrified by this stuff, I think everyone else's! But dealing

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with it through art in the same way. You talk about the Durer, but in

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the images of war, you have got two collections which are extraordinary,

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the coir as well. You have got three extraordinary anti-war

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gestures, the greatest in Western art, all together in a single room,

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absolutely fantastic. I thought what was remarkable about that room,

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it is the first time when death is not just seen as something that

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comes upon us, it is something we do to each other, we are implicated

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in this political process. Even though this is a small fraction of

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his collection, a lot of which is in storage, which is tragic, he

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needs a building to put it in, but it takes you through the personal

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impact of it, it is very emotional, and it brought tears to my eyes and

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made me laugh. But it shows you how death is used, and there's also a

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real feeling of taste, you can see what he likes. You see what the

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curator likes, Kate Ford. Mexican artist took photographs and

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then put the death masks on. This is an extraordinary human being, he

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has put together this amazing thing out of personal curiosity. He is

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not even making money from it, it is to his great credit, and that of

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the Wellcome Trust and their extraordinary approach to these

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exhibitions which are partly scientific, partly social, not

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cloistered away. And it is a free exhibition. And it is free. What I

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found the most disturbing thing, knowing that he committed suicide

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in the end, you get a progression of death from someone like Ray

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Jackson. I think probably... A portrait of myself in 1960, this

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was a man born in 1860, not looking for at Well! He is so brilliant,

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totally under-appreciated. Even the simple thing of a portrait on one

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side and his skull on the other, it is something about coming to terms

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with the idea that we all have one of them. There is a great tension

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in this exhibition, virtually all of these objects are meditations on

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the inevitability of death, but making them is a gesture towards

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immortality, producing something that will outlive us and the

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permanent marker. That is the whole idea, but looking at a collection

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put on for us, it is extraordinary, I have never been anywhere where I

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have seen so much about death in one space. It is still so taboo. A

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lot of people will miss out on it. You used the word morbid, and I was

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talking to Kate Ford, the curator, and I said the word is the wrong

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word, because death is something we have to live with and carry around,

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and once you are had a big bereavement, you learn that it does

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not go away. What is lovely about this is that you feel sad and a bit

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gross-out at times, but it is also a celebratory in its humour. Some

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of the things are very poignant. seemed to me somehow an image of

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the whole exhibition, because here is... Particularly the skull with

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the monkey perched on it, something you holding your hand, a little bit

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of death you carry around with you. And the opposite of that is this

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massive extraordinary chandelier. Which reminded me of the cap which

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encrypt in Rome, this idea of using the bones, having them in the room

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with you. An amazing thing! that is one of three he bought!

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would like one in my dining room! Because the exhibition is free, you

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can afford to buy the book, the whole thing is stunning. The whole

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thing is absolutely stunning, if you get a chance to go to Death: A

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Self-Portrait at the Wellcome Trust. The animated sitcom Full English,

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on Channel 4 on Monday, has been touted as Britain's answer to the

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senses and Family Guy. Meet the Johnson family, a fairground there

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in which review the state of the nation, satirising the television

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The series was created and written by Harry and Jack Williams, the

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brothers behind the BBC Two comedy, and the characters and sets are by

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the artist and illustrator Alex Scarfe, who has followed in the

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footsteps of his father Gerald. cannot believe our own daughter is

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too embarrassed to have asked there... The cast list includes The

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IT Crowd's Richard Ayoade, Kayvan Novak from Facejacker, and Daisy

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Haggard from Green Wing. This is my chance to shine! The first episode

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takes aim at Britain's Got Talent, it's more outrageous acts, and of

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course its best-known judge. massive pile of steaming... You

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were awful and you are out. You So all the ingredients are in place,

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but does Full English satisfy the appetite for home-grown satire, or

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:29:08.:29:17.

Where his money? Is she playing The Americans have delivered The

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Simpsons and Family Guy. This is the attempt to get back in the game.

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Isn't it strange there hasn't been at a British equivalent given the

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success of The Simpsons and Family Guy? Maybe it's because they had

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such success, but this is not the Simpsons. I think I enjoyed it more

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than anybody else. It is very much the palate we are talking about, be

:29:46.:29:56.
:29:56.:30:02.

disarmed but Ted. -- Beavis and Arteta. I was pretty down on the

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first episode. I went back and watch the first episode of Family

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Guy, and it was finding its feet. It wasn't anywhere in the year as

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the joyous with what it did back then for some I think this is the

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sort of thing, if you gave it time, it could grow into something which

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could stand up against the American shows. The writing would pick up?

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They need to get a writer. They need a miracle. This was like

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watching a particularly unfunny episode of banana Mamma. I did not

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laugh once. The jokes were stupid and crude. The targets were so

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obvious for some it just felt such a deliberately cynical thing. Here

:30:53.:31:03.
:31:03.:31:03.

was a great opportunity of putting down a marker for British animation.

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We have great animators, brilliant animators. How these people got to

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make this, it's nothing to do with Family Guy and The Simpsons. We are

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dignifying it all that it is a rip- off of the monkey dust. It was

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before about 10 years ago. Sorry, BBC Three. It is very reverential

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to monkey dust. It brings the same characters back. But without any

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hope jokes. No punchlines. There was a great possibility of a thread,

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the gap year. You want to leave them out there rather than bring

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them home of. Why is the first episode so weak? It's not like you

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have got to do the shoots. defended a little bit, I felt that

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the level of darkness they went to, having Princess Diana and a topless

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Jade Goody... Easy targets. Shagging the Queen. It is low blows

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for teenagers. They want to watch something their parents would be

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shocked by it. I'm a being shocked by it being so bad, not subversive.

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It's perfect audience is a 13-year- old boy yet it's going out at night

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time. When I was 13, I wasn't up late. It needs to have more

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satirical stuff. More political force up why is it about bad TV?

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is bad TV about bad TV. To take the mickey out of Simon Cowell... These

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reality shows are over. What I thought was interesting about the

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second episode, interesting could be overstating it, but better about

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the second when a comet didn't try to take on a theme up. I felt we

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were living alongside their lives. The references to homosexuality and

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the lazy use of the word gay, please stop doing that. Let's hope

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that there will be more animation. There's loads of animators about

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but it needs to be funny. From the Creation and the transmission, it

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needs to be faster. It could open up an opportunity by being

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commissioned. Animation used to be expensive to do, but now it is not.

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Maybe this will encourage the idea, maybe people will see it and think

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they can do better than that. That's a good thing. It was

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slightly better the second time. almost laughed in the second

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episode. You're easily pleased. Let's hear from more animation. You

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can see episode two of Full English on Channel 4 on Monday night.

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That's all from us for tonight. Thanks to Alex Preston, Hannah

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McGill and James Fox. Jools Holland's joined by Ellie Goulding

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and Foals among others on Later after the lottery. Next week,

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Martha will be here to look at Stephen Fry's return to the West

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