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On The Review Show tonight: The return of Rebus. Ian Rankin | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
brings his whisky-swilling, vinyl- spinning detective back from | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
retirement. But is there still life in the old curmudgeon? | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
The Master. It looks like director Paul Thomas Anderson's take on | :00:22. | :00:32. | |
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Scientology. A must-see or just cult viewing? I am a writer, a | :00:34. | :00:40. | |
theoretical philosopher, but, above all, I am a man, just like you. | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
Death in all its manifestations in a remarkable exhibition at Wellcome | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
Collection. And Full English. Has Channel 4 found Britain's answer to | :00:47. | :00:57. | |
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Family Guy? This is my chance to On the panel tonight are the writer | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
and critic Hannah McGill, the novelist Alex Preston, and the art | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
historian James Fox. Like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle before him, | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
Britain's most successful living crime writer Ian Rankin has brought | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
his most popular character back. John Rebus wasn't exactly dead, but | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
he is certainly out of cold storage for Rankin's 28th work of fiction. | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
Though, as he told Alan Yentob in last week's Imagine, he only knew | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
that the new book would feature Rebus when he found himself typing | :01:25. | :01:35. | |
his name on page two. Over the previous 18 books of the | :01:35. | :01:41. | |
series, Ian Rankin aged his leading man in real time, following John | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
Rebus out of retirement. In Standing In Another Man's Grave, he | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
has joined the Cold Case unit. The hero of his last two books, Malcolm | :01:51. | :01:59. | |
Fox, pops up here, too, and takes a dim view of Rebus's return and his | :02:00. | :02:09. | |
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effect on his former partner, She picked up the coffee. John | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
Rebus was the loosest of cannons. No constabulary had room for that | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
any more. He warned her that Rebus's proximity might damage his | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
chances of promotion. The action takes us north of the capital. The | :02:32. | :02:40. | |
furthest he's been from an Edinburgh pub. Hints of what | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
political sentiment are sewn into the story as Rebus journeys north. | :02:43. | :02:49. | |
He reflects on Scotland and its future. He remembered Siobhan | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
Clarke's words. It's an odd little country hard to fathom. She accused | :02:54. | :03:02. | |
of coming over all defensive. In fact, he had agreed with her. A | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
nation of 5 million cowered together. Clinging to the notions | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
of community and shared history. Changes to the leader retirement | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
age of mean that Rebus could have a new lease of life in the force. | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
reason he retired is that in real time he would be 60. Now he's able | :03:21. | :03:27. | |
to work until he is 67. There is potential for seven more years of | :03:27. | :03:34. | |
Rebus books. Ian Rankin says he would only revive Rebus's career | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
only if there was something serious to say. I'll be hanging on his | :03:39. | :03:46. | |
every word? We have some very big Rebus fans. But the possibility of | :03:46. | :03:53. | |
seven more years of Rebus. Was it a risk to bring him back? I found it | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
fascinating. Unlike the rest of the country, I had never read a Ian | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
Rankin novel and I spent the last two weeks immersing myself in | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
Markham Fox and Rebus. Internal affairs? Rebus doesn't play by the | :04:11. | :04:18. | |
rules and Malcolm Fox is the rules. I thought that Rebus is a fantastic | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
character like Raymond Chandler. A hard-boiled detective. | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
Unfortunately, this novel did not work for me in the way some of his | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
earlier ones did. Even the first one, noughts and crosses, I thought | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
they were incredibly well constructed. Fiercely groping. This | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
one, in the documentary he describes this novel is a bit | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
random and not interesting. I'm afraid that's how I felt about it. | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
Is that how you found it? I read the back of the book which was | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
gushing. Some body described him as a mystery writer of. But it's not | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
really a mystery novel. I like that about it. For me, it was very | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
evocative of what I imagine the real police work to be like. Plod, | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
plod, plod, go down a blind alley, have a suspicion, it's all very | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
nasty. There's not a lot of glamourous possibilities. It's very | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
fitting to the character that Rebus is, someone quite depressed. He | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
basically does not like life. is different is that a crime does | :05:29. | :05:35. | |
not appear early. You feel that Ian Rankin is getting back into the | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
Rebus groove again. It seemed to be more of a character a novel about | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
Rebus, this is how he has changed. Rather than the crime of being the | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
most important thing. I'd only ever seen Rebus on television a day | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
spent most of the book trying to get Ken Stott out of my head. One | :05:53. | :06:00. | |
thing which surprised me was how slow the novel was. It wasn't until | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
page 215 when the crime gets discovered. For a crime thriller, | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
there wasn't much crime and there wasn't there but role, either. | :06:10. | :06:20. | |
of the things I picked up was the crime is so minor. Minor to the | :06:20. | :06:26. | |
structure. A terrible crime. The antagonist, the greater villain, we | :06:26. | :06:34. | |
won't reveal, is almost inconsequential. Ian said he did | :06:34. | :06:41. | |
not decide who the villain was until the end. Page 273. Rebus is | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
so deeply ingrained with the underworld of Edinburgh, all the | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
real villains are his mates. That's fascinating and I love that. What | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
is interesting about the way that he writes Rebus now is that it is | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
like a method acting of. I always picture Ian up rather than Ken | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
Stott. The tension in the book is that what he does in the previous | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
two novels is set up his new hero, Mark, Fox, and then we have Rebus | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
back and you think, Malcolm Fox, I don't like him. Maybe he did not | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
like writing him -- Malcolm Fox. One thing which is charming about | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
him is that Rebus has these little things he likes, vinyl records, and | :07:30. | :07:40. | |
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correct people's grammar. The other thing in this book is, he is the | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
hard-boiled detective, but, actually, he puts social media into | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
it is a clever way. It's all about profiling and using a mobile phone | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
to show part of the crime scene. I think he worked on that very hard. | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
So often with novelists have a certain age, taking on the internet, | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
it's like William Hague wearing a baseball cap. Here, it is | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
incredibly well handled. Ian Rankin is very good on it Twitter. Showing | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
the way the mobile phone, and having a camera with you, you can | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
have it. It's changed our lives. And how much young people used to | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
go to, and the idea of the older man getting into this youngsters | :08:25. | :08:34. | |
world force of the young woman, she reminded me of the new cue in Sky | :08:35. | :08:44. | |
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He travels through Scotland. He is saying something about Scotland. | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
One of the great characters in the novel is the motorway running | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
through Scotland and it's a way of thinking through ideas of what | :08:57. | :09:06. | |
Scotland is about to. It's a sinister road. The death of ready | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
McRae, she always believed she would be buried under it. It's the | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
anonymity of the motorway, and the loss of these women. It's like all | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
the people who disappear. Young women who disappear. It's not a | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
sentimental, at all. There is a deep feeling of sadness. You know, | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
the idea the mobile phone is supposed to connect everybody but, | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
in this case, it's another sign of loss. We are in the middle of | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
November and Ian will have to start on the 2nd January with his new | :09:39. | :09:47. | |
book. How does he do it? Watching a documentary, that was amazing. | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
Living alongside him. The fact he can at knock this thing off in a | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
couple of months. Strong dialogue, as well. Is it going to be another | :09:58. | :10:06. | |
Rebus book? I wanted to stick at Rebus. I didn't realise he was so | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
old. I wanted to go on longer. the time he reaches 67, he can go | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
on to infinity. Get the book now for Christmas. With credits that | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
include Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood, and Magnolia, director | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
Paul Thomas Anderson has never shied away from working at | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
emotional or historical frontiers. With the release of his sixth | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
feature film, starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Pheonix, | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
he now shifts his attention to the emerging spiritual factions of | :10:30. | :10:40. | |
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The Master is set in the wake of World War II and follows Freddy | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
Quell, unable officer transition in from the military to civilian life. | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
Played by Joaquin Phoenix, he is trapped in a storm of his own a | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
volatile emotions and dogged by alcoholism. One day, he regains | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
consciousness in an unfamiliar boat. His life changes when he's | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
introduced to Lancaster Dodd. a writer, a doctor, a nuclear | :11:07. | :11:17. | |
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physicist, a philosopher. Above all, I am a manner, just like you. | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
the self-appointed leader of the spiritual movement called The Cause | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
and claims to have discovered how mankind cannot rise beyond its base | :11:25. | :11:34. | |
animal nature. Paul Thomas Anderson's research into this | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
movement in the post-war era has clearly informed his script and | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
there are parallels with the early history of Scientology. Likewise, | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
the character of Lancaster Dodd appears to take evidence from its | :11:46. | :11:52. | |
founder, L Ron Hubbard. Science, by definition, allows for more opinion. | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
Otherwise it's the will of one man which is the basis of a cult. The | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
he becomes a lieutenant to the movement, Freddy Quell, and takes | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
criticism from inside his own family. He's making this up as he | :12:07. | :12:14. | |
goes along. You can't see that? makes his post or aspiration and | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
post-traumatic stress with a plausible alternative religion. But | :12:19. | :12:29. | |
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is the master likely to wow the It's hard to talk about this film | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
without centring on Joaquin Phoenix at's incredibly physical | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
performance and also Philip Seymour Hoffman, a dominant figure. Had you | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
any idea what you're watching? was extremely divided about this | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
film having seen it because it was very beautiful and the performances, | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
particularly Joaquin Phoenix, was staggering. The set pieces were | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
mind-boggling but, on the other hand, I found it really boring. I | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
wasn't very moved by it. I think the reason was, I don't think the | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
film went anywhere. It had a brilliant first hour and other two | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
protagonists met and the characters did not develop. Their relationship | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
didn't develop. For me, it was a film I admired greatly but I didn't | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
enjoy it. Did you get a sense you started to watch Joaquin Phoenix, | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
who was so damaged, and he kept on being damaged, and also of his | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
performance was so mesmeric, it is almost watching a car crash. | :13:34. | :13:40. | |
disagree. There was a certain static us about it. At a conversion. | :13:40. | :13:47. | |
If they progress. These tricks that they use, the phoney religion which | :13:47. | :13:57. | |
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has been set up which they cause -- called The Cause, it's all out | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
taking someone vulnerable, giving them a fake love, breaking them, | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
and then winning their love. The way scientology works, you then ask | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
them for money. But does not come up in this film because the Joaquin | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
Phoenix character isn't financially powerful. His films are quite hard | :14:17. | :14:23. | |
to get in to immediately. His films are all very long, quite distant | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
and order. They don't be the automatic... There Will Be Blood | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
was fantastic. There's 20 minutes with no dialogue at the beginning | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
of a There Will Be Blood. The lead character is not lovable. No, but | :14:39. | :14:47. | |
the difference between them is you go on a journey with the character. | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
Did you? His films are work like avant garde novels. The problem | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
with this is that are being in a cult isn't interesting for the here | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
we have a man who has written about it. And I have attended several. I | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
thought that, soon as you get to the end, the beginning was | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
brilliant, we sought during the war they had a clear sense of their | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
purpose in life, their direction, comradeship, they were thrust out | :15:21. | :15:28. | |
into this world and suddenly they are a Lola. Beautifully shot. It is | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
shot so beautifully. The idea things were coming back in after | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
the war. There is no sense of things moving forward for that the | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
characters do not develop. The film has no plot. I could have walked | :15:44. | :15:53. | |
out for 40 minutes during the What about the relationship between | :15:53. | :16:01. | |
Lancaster Dodd and his wife? That is not plot. I felt that Joaquin | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman eclipsed each other. Joaquin | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
Phoenix is amazing, he lost a lot of weight for the part, he has his | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
chiselled face, he looks weird, but he is doing it -- overdoing it a | :16:15. | :16:23. | |
bit. He always has one performance that is a bit over-the-top. Tom | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
Cruise in Magnolia, you know. And Joaquin Phoenix, his face is | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
incredible, but every time you see his body, you saw it in that clip, | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
he has this weird... He has obviously decided that is his | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
thing! You have to believe in the relationship between Joaquin | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman. That is every film about men, | :16:48. | :16:55. | |
father and son. There Will Be Blood was a father-something, and for me | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
the relationship did not work. What summed it up was this strange | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
lowish to Britain at the end, totally unexplained. There is a | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
lack of emotional climax. I think he is being slightly perverse, and | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
this film has been made at side of the commercial sector, so it does | :17:12. | :17:21. | |
not had the pressure of... He said, I want to make this hugely | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
expensive film, incredibly difficult but they win Oscars. | :17:27. | :17:35. | |
Larry Ellison's daughter may this. If somebody came to me and said, I | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
am Paul Thomas Anderson, I have got Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
Hoffman, I would give him a check. This is what happens when artists | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
do not have to respond to commercial pressures. It did not | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
satisfy you because it does not respond to a traditional trajectory. | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
I thought, it just happened to me, I did not have an extreme reaction | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
except for enjoying it while I was watching it. I actually prefer | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
films without plot, but they need to do something to me, take me on a | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
journey with the characters. think it took me somewhere that it | :18:15. | :18:21. | |
did not take you. I think this film was made on 65 mm stock, I was | :18:21. | :18:27. | |
lucky to see a 70 mm print, and that is very rare these days. | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
Increasingly, film-makers are using digital media, and go back to the | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
greatest and of medium is just wonderful to watch. The Master went | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
on general release today. The only certainty in life is death, but for | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
that reason we often shy away from it as a subject. A new exhibition | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
of artwork and artifacts at the welcome collection explores our | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
complex and often contradictory attitudes towards death and | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
immortality. If you're of a nervous disposition, you might want to look | :18:57. | :19:05. | |
The exhibits come from the diverse collection of a former antique | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
print dealer from Chicago, Richard Harris, who set out to capture the | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
essence of death through its iconography. The Western world | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
including England and the US certainly are afraid of death and | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
do not want to have it as part of our conversation in any way, shape | :19:22. | :19:30. | |
or form. My wife and I attended the Day of the Dead in Mexico, and it | :19:30. | :19:39. | |
was an eye-opening experience, to be part of it. They go to the grave | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
sites and bring food that the deceased loved, they bring food and | :19:44. | :19:54. | |
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While one room reflects rituals and remembrance around the world, | :19:57. | :20:07. | |
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another displays disturbing We see it on the television | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
sometimes, and it seems so far away, but when you stand in front of this | :20:23. | :20:29. | |
print, it can be more visceral and strike you in a more personal | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
fashion, what the results of war really can be. There are scores of | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
skulls and skeletons on show, but while much of the exhibition is | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
morbid and macabre, other works show a different aspect to death | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
which can lift the spirits. People say, Richard, you are so ebullient, | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
smiling and happy about things, how can you be collecting a subject | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
like that? And I think the other aspect of death is that he sees the | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
day, you know, make the most of each of your days of living on the | :21:05. | :21:15. | |
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Well, you know, the Wellcome Collection, to have put this on | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
after Brain, to have such an all- encompassing focused exhibition, | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
did it change the way you thought about death? A bit just fitted in | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
exactly what my thinking about death. Going to Mexico around the | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
Day of the Dead celebrations, it was very dear to my heart. I saw an | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
engraving that I had sent as a postcard to my father, so I | :21:39. | :21:45. | |
immediately went, I belong here! Of all the rigours you have put the | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
true for the Review Show, this is something I am starry eyed about, | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
it is just beautiful. In amongst it, there are the most extraordinary | :21:54. | :22:01. | |
collections, but early on you realise, what a collector he is, | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
where he has found this stuff, and this is just a fraction of his | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
exhibition at Chicago. Indeed, and he has assembled this over quite a | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
short period of time, 12 years, and in the catalogue he says, thanks to | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
his wife Barbara for patience and understanding. When you see the | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
collection that he has obsessively assembled over the past 12 years, | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
Barbara Harris does have the patience of a saint! Apparently she | :22:27. | :22:33. | |
has told him to stop. I think it is great because you might say he is a | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
magpie, but he has collected notions of debt from practically | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
every culture, Japanese, Indian... That is what is so wonderful. I was | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
terrified about singers, I am a huge hypochondriac, so scared of | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
dying, but he was there, and he just kind of took me around and | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
kept saying, I just want it to be uplifting. The thing that is | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
comforting about it is how universal so many of the images are, | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
the dance macabre, a medieval chronicle up to the pictures from | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
Japan, the Tibetan sketches, the Day of the Dead in Mexico. We are | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
all terrified by this stuff, I think everyone else's! But dealing | :23:17. | :23:23. | |
with it through art in the same way. You talk about the Durer, but in | :23:23. | :23:28. | |
the images of war, you have got two collections which are extraordinary, | :23:28. | :23:36. | |
the coir as well. You have got three extraordinary anti-war | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
gestures, the greatest in Western art, all together in a single room, | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
absolutely fantastic. I thought what was remarkable about that room, | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
it is the first time when death is not just seen as something that | :23:48. | :23:53. | |
comes upon us, it is something we do to each other, we are implicated | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
in this political process. Even though this is a small fraction of | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
his collection, a lot of which is in storage, which is tragic, he | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
needs a building to put it in, but it takes you through the personal | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
impact of it, it is very emotional, and it brought tears to my eyes and | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
made me laugh. But it shows you how death is used, and there's also a | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
real feeling of taste, you can see what he likes. You see what the | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
curator likes, Kate Ford. Mexican artist took photographs and | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
then put the death masks on. This is an extraordinary human being, he | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
has put together this amazing thing out of personal curiosity. He is | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
not even making money from it, it is to his great credit, and that of | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
the Wellcome Trust and their extraordinary approach to these | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
exhibitions which are partly scientific, partly social, not | :24:46. | :24:53. | |
cloistered away. And it is a free exhibition. And it is free. What I | :24:53. | :24:59. | |
found the most disturbing thing, knowing that he committed suicide | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
in the end, you get a progression of death from someone like Ray | :25:03. | :25:13. | |
:25:13. | :25:14. | ||
Jackson. I think probably... A portrait of myself in 1960, this | :25:14. | :25:24. | |
:25:24. | :25:24. | ||
was a man born in 1860, not looking for at Well! He is so brilliant, | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
totally under-appreciated. Even the simple thing of a portrait on one | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
side and his skull on the other, it is something about coming to terms | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
with the idea that we all have one of them. There is a great tension | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
in this exhibition, virtually all of these objects are meditations on | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
the inevitability of death, but making them is a gesture towards | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
immortality, producing something that will outlive us and the | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
permanent marker. That is the whole idea, but looking at a collection | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
put on for us, it is extraordinary, I have never been anywhere where I | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
have seen so much about death in one space. It is still so taboo. A | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
lot of people will miss out on it. You used the word morbid, and I was | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
talking to Kate Ford, the curator, and I said the word is the wrong | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
word, because death is something we have to live with and carry around, | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
and once you are had a big bereavement, you learn that it does | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
not go away. What is lovely about this is that you feel sad and a bit | :26:26. | :26:32. | |
gross-out at times, but it is also a celebratory in its humour. Some | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
of the things are very poignant. seemed to me somehow an image of | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
the whole exhibition, because here is... Particularly the skull with | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
the monkey perched on it, something you holding your hand, a little bit | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
of death you carry around with you. And the opposite of that is this | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
massive extraordinary chandelier. Which reminded me of the cap which | :26:54. | :27:00. | |
encrypt in Rome, this idea of using the bones, having them in the room | :27:00. | :27:06. | |
with you. An amazing thing! that is one of three he bought! | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
would like one in my dining room! Because the exhibition is free, you | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
can afford to buy the book, the whole thing is stunning. The whole | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
thing is absolutely stunning, if you get a chance to go to Death: A | :27:21. | :27:29. | |
Self-Portrait at the Wellcome Trust. The animated sitcom Full English, | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
on Channel 4 on Monday, has been touted as Britain's answer to the | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
senses and Family Guy. Meet the Johnson family, a fairground there | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
in which review the state of the nation, satirising the television | :27:42. | :27:52. | |
:27:52. | :27:57. | ||
The series was created and written by Harry and Jack Williams, the | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
brothers behind the BBC Two comedy, and the characters and sets are by | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
the artist and illustrator Alex Scarfe, who has followed in the | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
footsteps of his father Gerald. cannot believe our own daughter is | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
too embarrassed to have asked there... The cast list includes The | :28:16. | :28:22. | |
IT Crowd's Richard Ayoade, Kayvan Novak from Facejacker, and Daisy | :28:22. | :28:31. | |
Haggard from Green Wing. This is my chance to shine! The first episode | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
takes aim at Britain's Got Talent, it's more outrageous acts, and of | :28:34. | :28:41. | |
course its best-known judge. massive pile of steaming... You | :28:41. | :28:51. | |
:28:51. | :28:54. | ||
were awful and you are out. You So all the ingredients are in place, | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
but does Full English satisfy the appetite for home-grown satire, or | :28:58. | :29:08. | |
:29:08. | :29:17. | ||
Where his money? Is she playing The Americans have delivered The | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
Simpsons and Family Guy. This is the attempt to get back in the game. | :29:21. | :29:27. | |
Isn't it strange there hasn't been at a British equivalent given the | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
success of The Simpsons and Family Guy? Maybe it's because they had | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
such success, but this is not the Simpsons. I think I enjoyed it more | :29:36. | :29:46. | |
than anybody else. It is very much the palate we are talking about, be | :29:46. | :29:56. | |
:29:56. | :30:02. | ||
disarmed but Ted. -- Beavis and Arteta. I was pretty down on the | :30:02. | :30:10. | |
first episode. I went back and watch the first episode of Family | :30:10. | :30:16. | |
Guy, and it was finding its feet. It wasn't anywhere in the year as | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
the joyous with what it did back then for some I think this is the | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
sort of thing, if you gave it time, it could grow into something which | :30:23. | :30:29. | |
could stand up against the American shows. The writing would pick up? | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
They need to get a writer. They need a miracle. This was like | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
watching a particularly unfunny episode of banana Mamma. I did not | :30:40. | :30:47. | |
laugh once. The jokes were stupid and crude. The targets were so | :30:47. | :30:53. | |
obvious for some it just felt such a deliberately cynical thing. Here | :30:53. | :31:03. | |
:31:03. | :31:03. | ||
was a great opportunity of putting down a marker for British animation. | :31:03. | :31:10. | |
We have great animators, brilliant animators. How these people got to | :31:10. | :31:18. | |
make this, it's nothing to do with Family Guy and The Simpsons. We are | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
dignifying it all that it is a rip- off of the monkey dust. It was | :31:24. | :31:33. | |
before about 10 years ago. Sorry, BBC Three. It is very reverential | :31:33. | :31:39. | |
to monkey dust. It brings the same characters back. But without any | :31:39. | :31:46. | |
hope jokes. No punchlines. There was a great possibility of a thread, | :31:46. | :31:53. | |
the gap year. You want to leave them out there rather than bring | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
them home of. Why is the first episode so weak? It's not like you | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
have got to do the shoots. defended a little bit, I felt that | :32:03. | :32:12. | |
the level of darkness they went to, having Princess Diana and a topless | :32:12. | :32:19. | |
Jade Goody... Easy targets. Shagging the Queen. It is low blows | :32:19. | :32:24. | |
for teenagers. They want to watch something their parents would be | :32:24. | :32:32. | |
shocked by it. I'm a being shocked by it being so bad, not subversive. | :32:32. | :32:38. | |
It's perfect audience is a 13-year- old boy yet it's going out at night | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
time. When I was 13, I wasn't up late. It needs to have more | :32:43. | :32:52. | |
satirical stuff. More political force up why is it about bad TV? | :32:52. | :33:01. | |
is bad TV about bad TV. To take the mickey out of Simon Cowell... These | :33:01. | :33:07. | |
reality shows are over. What I thought was interesting about the | :33:07. | :33:13. | |
second episode, interesting could be overstating it, but better about | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
the second when a comet didn't try to take on a theme up. I felt we | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
were living alongside their lives. The references to homosexuality and | :33:22. | :33:32. | |
the lazy use of the word gay, please stop doing that. Let's hope | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
that there will be more animation. There's loads of animators about | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
but it needs to be funny. From the Creation and the transmission, it | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
needs to be faster. It could open up an opportunity by being | :33:46. | :33:54. | |
commissioned. Animation used to be expensive to do, but now it is not. | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
Maybe this will encourage the idea, maybe people will see it and think | :33:57. | :34:02. | |
they can do better than that. That's a good thing. It was | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
slightly better the second time. almost laughed in the second | :34:07. | :34:17. | |
:34:17. | :34:18. | ||
episode. You're easily pleased. Let's hear from more animation. You | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
can see episode two of Full English on Channel 4 on Monday night. | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
That's all from us for tonight. Thanks to Alex Preston, Hannah | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
McGill and James Fox. Jools Holland's joined by Ellie Goulding | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
and Foals among others on Later after the lottery. Next week, | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
Martha will be here to look at Stephen Fry's return to the West | :34:33. | :34:35. |