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Three celebs become 12 again.

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I liked Posh because I support Man U.

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I never, ever got myself into trouble.

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-Kylie Minogue.

-I did not!

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-Sinitta.

-I didn't!

-Sonia.

-No!

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And we find out what life was like for TV presenter Alex Jones.

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It was like the highlight of the week.

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It was the highlight of life.

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-Want to know what they're all talking about?

-Yeah!

-He does.

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Have you ever wondered what it would have been like

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to be best mates with your favourite celebs when they were your age?

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What did they get up to?

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What were their favourite songs?

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And what TV shows did they watch?

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Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,

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once they were a kid with a dream just like you.

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This show lets you look back in time

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with your favourite celebs as they become 12 again.

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They're the legendary comedy duo who know how to make a scene.

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-You confess that you did it!

-It was me!

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BOTH: Ahhh!

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But back in the late '80s,

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Dick and Dom were...

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well, pretty much the same.

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When I was 12, I was wrong.

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I wore the wrong clothes, I had the wrong hairstyle. I just looked wrong.

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BOTH: If you're happy and you know it, do this...

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'I was naughty.'

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That's the word that can sum up, really, rather than a sentence.

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I was very, very naughty.

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# Number one

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# You lift me off the ground... #

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He's the number one rapper who has loads of celeb mates.

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And back in 1998, Tinchy Stryder was

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just getting in with the in crowd.

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In school, you've always got different groups,

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but I think me personally,

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socially I fitted in with the cool kids.

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Football and the cool set. Yeah.

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She's the business dragon

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who can crush dreams with just two words.

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I'm out.

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But back in 1971, Deborah Meaden

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knew exactly what she wanted.

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'I think I was a pretty independent child.'

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If you couldn't convince me to do something,

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then absolutely no way was I going to do it.

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It may all be high-flying business deals

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and showbiz parties today, but it wasn't always that way.

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So let's see what they were like before they were famous

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and still wearing their school uniform.

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When I was 12 in school, I've always been small for my age anyway,

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so I always somehow stood out. "That's that little one."

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I had this big quiff for a hairstyle, and I also wore the wrong clothes.

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I was never cool. Always clothes that other people wouldn't wear.

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I was quite slight.

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Pale blonde. I think I had dark rings under my eyes,

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but that might just be my sister telling me I had them.

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-What did your hair look like then?

-It was terrible.

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-It was like a bird's nest had landed on my head.

-It was curly, wasn't it?

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-Big, curly shock of hair.

-Yeah.

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I used to really love trainers.

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When I used to go to school,

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I remember you used to save up your school dinner money.

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I used to get maybe £1.50 to go to school with every day,

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and then that saved up.

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So maybe in, like, a month, you can buy some trainers.

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I probably spent most of my 12-year-old year looking atrocious.

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Trying to look like my older sister, trying to be fashionable,

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but actually kind of not getting it.

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I think the worst thing about being 12 was acne. Did you have acne?

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I had it all over my forehead.

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You could do dot-to-dot with it. It was everywhere.

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I went through so many different phases.

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One day I might look like this, the next day like that.

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I always think, cos I had older brothers who...

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to me they were cool,

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so they might be like, "I've got this for you,"

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and then I felt like, yeah, I was cool.

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So despite the spots, trying to be fashionable,

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and falling in love with...trainers,

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what else did our celebs get up to when they were 12?

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'I was a businessman when I was 12.'

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I used to have a paper round with my mate on Monday to Friday,

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and one on a Sunday morning as well.

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-Just paper round mad, I was.

-What happened? Eh?

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-To the business sense. What happened to you?

-It's all up there, mate.

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I was an absolutely angelic child.

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I did absolutely nothing wrong

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and I never, ever got myself into trouble.

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I probably need to tell the truth.

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I think, because I was quite independent,

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I'd just go off and do stuff and then find out later

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I wasn't supposed to have done it.

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I was the joker. I hung around with the cool bunch,

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but I was always the slightly nerdy one

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that tagged along to the cool bunch.

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Rubbish at sport as well,

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and all my three older brothers were really good at school,

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so I kind of thought, "What do I do? What's my thing at school?"

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And I discovered I could make people laugh.

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I wanted to be a footballer. That was my main thing.

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In a way it helped with my music,

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because I wasn't paying full attention.

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I was doing it because I enjoyed it.

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It was fun, it was a hobby, but football was my main focus,

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so you have to just train. I used to love playing football.

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So whilst Tinchy focused on his football,

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Dom was finding school life not so easy.

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'At school, 12 was a very difficult age,'

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because I hadn't been diagnosed as dyslexic at that stage.

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I remember other kids used to call me thick,

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and that really hurt. It really, really hurt.

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Dyslexia is basically a learning disability.

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My main one was reading, as you know.

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And my spelling's awful.

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-How many times do I ask you how to spell words?

-True.

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Very simple ones, like "there" and "their", and something like "else".

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I'd just being going round in my head, "How do I spell it?"

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Fast forward to 1998,

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where Tinchy Stryder had just started making a name for himself.

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Quite literally.

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'My close friends call me Kwasi. That's my birth name,'

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and people that are close to me still call me that.

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When I was going into secondary school, I thought,

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"Yeah, we want to MC, but we need names.

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"Everyone's got a name." But my one was sort of easy,

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cos I was always the smallest out of the group, so Tinch, Tinchy,

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that was like a nickname that came with it.

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And then "Stryder" was from a computer game which I used to know.

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It just sounded like Tinchy, but big strides. Tinchy Stryder.

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Yeah, it sounded cool.

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Long before Tinchy's name was in place, back in 1971,

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Deborah was helping to run the family business.

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'Even as a small child, I was helping out.'

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Every holiday I would be working.

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Deborah's mum and dad owned fairground rides

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at Longleat Safari Park,

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and it's where Deborah began to make her fortune.

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By the time I was 12, I was getting to the age

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where I could take on responsibility.

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To me it was great fun.

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It wasn't like, "Oh, I was working at the age of 12!"

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I loved it. It was fantastic.

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So Deborah might have been earning money,

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but Dick was spending it.

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'I used to save all my pocket money up.'

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£2.50 a week, actually,

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and the first ever biggest burger establishment in the world

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-beginning with "M-C"...

-Right, yes.

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..opened in Sheffield. I remember it opening,

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and every week we used to go there,

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every Saturday, to buy these brand new little burgers.

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OK, let me put this into context for you.

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When Dick was 12, lots of cities across the UK

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didn't have the famous M restaurant,

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so when one opened in your town, it was big news.

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And it was massive news

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when the first one opened in Russia in 1990, because until then,

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people who lived there couldn't get a lot of Western products,

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so the first McDonalds in Moscow caused huge excitement.

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But there was one problem.

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Food isn't cheap. Half a day's roubles for a Big Mac alone.

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Despite it being hugely expensive for them,

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people queued for miles to try and get the food

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that they thought they would never taste.

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The opening of the restaurant

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was seen as the start of a historic change for Russia.

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I had a crush on a girl in my area.

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She was the girl who everyone liked, and I really liked her.

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We got along as friends, but then, I don't know,

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maybe I started liking her more.

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Yeah. And then I kind of got a kiss.

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Yeah.

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Back in Sheffield,

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Dick was about to start his showbiz career.

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I started on children's hospital radio

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at Sheffield Children's Hospital.

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When I was 12, I was the youngest presenter they'd ever had,

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and I was just obsessed with it.

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I'd even record all the jingles off Radio 1 onto a cassette tape.

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What was it?

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# Two million watts of music power

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# Radio 1 FM! #

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I was a questioning child. That's in my genes, and as a child,

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it must be very annoying to have a 12-year-old constantly say, "Why?"

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When you're asked to do something, "Why?"

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And I'd go to school, and we'd have these rules,

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and I'd think, "Why?"

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That's the question that's followed me through life. "Why?"

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And it's obviously done well for you, Deborah.

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But "why" don't we see what music

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our celebs listened to when they were kids?

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Good link, thanks.

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'I was given a cassette tape -

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New Order, Substance, the album was, from 1987.

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So I got it in 1988. And I put this cassette on,

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a double cassette, and I remember listening to it

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and thinking, "This is my kind of music."

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# How does it feel? #

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This is New Order's most successful song, Blue Monday.

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They rose to fame in the '80s

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with their unique style of electronic music,

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and have influenced loads of bands over the years,

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probably some you listen to today.

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But Dick's record collection wasn't as cool as he'd like to think.

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You did also used to have quite a big record collection

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of awful music as well, didn't you?

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-Like what, Mr Wood?

-Well, it was...

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there were basically three guys called Stock, Aitken and Waterman,

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and they basically made lots of pop music. And...Jason Donovan,

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-Kylie Minogue.

-I did not!

-Sinitta...

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-I didn't!

-Sonia.

-No!

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# But you'll never stop me from loving you... #

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Stock, Aitken and Waterman

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were the three-headed Simon Cowell of the '80s.

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They wrote and produced hit after hit after hit.

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So much so, they were often called The Hit Factory.

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Welcome to The Hit Factory in London.

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And one of their biggest stars was Kylie Minogue, Dick's favorite.

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# You keep on asking me

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# Why can't we be together? #

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Have you got a favourite Kylie track, have you?

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You know, from when you were 12?

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Yeah. Got To Be Certain was quite good.

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# I've got to be

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# Got to be certain... #

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'It was a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. Not any more, though. No.'

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-You're such a liar.

-It's true!

-He is a liar.

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He's trying to make himself better, cos he just likes all the pop.

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Just cos you were a rock fanatic!

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-IN HIGH VOICE:

-Yeah!

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# This must be just like living in paradise... #

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So whilst Dick was trying to be cool listening to Kylie,

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Dom was listening to some rock.

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Because I used to be a drummer, I used to love rock music.

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That was absolutely brilliant.

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And I was influenced by my three older brothers.

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One particular tune was Crazy Nights by a band called Kiss.

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# These are crazy, crazy... #

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Kiss were a massive American rock band with a massive sound,

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and guess what? They rocked.

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With huge hair and sell-out shows, they were the kings of heavy music.

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But if you think this is heavy, feast your eyes on this.

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HEAVY GUITAR RIFF

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This, believe it or not, is the same band 10 years earlier.

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Their crazy dress sense and flashy face paint was legendary,

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and all of them made an effort with their characters.

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There was Starchild, who obviously went with the star.

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There was comic book fan The Demon.

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Some pretty cool characters.

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(And Catman.)

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It's not looking good. You've got that, I've got Kylie,

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-I Should Be So Lucky.

-It's good. Don't knock it.

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It's...OK, I know what you mean.

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So let's leave Dick and Dom

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popping and rocking in the '80s,

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and found out what Deborah

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was listening to in the '70s.

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'At boarding school, the only programme

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'we were allowed to watch was Top Of The Pops.'

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We had a matron who would sit there

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and make sure we didn't see anything inappropriate.

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And I just remember when Rod Stewart came on.

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# Wake up, Maggie

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# I think I got something to say to you... #

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'I think it was Maggie May. I think it got to number one,

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'which was why it was on Top Of The Pops.

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He's a good-looking guy,

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and he was just a bit edgy, a bit different.

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You know, his hips moved a bit.

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And they really did move.

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But there was one feature Rod really became famous for -

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his hair.

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Rod and his hair have been going for over 45 years.

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Back in the '70s, he was massive,

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and having sold millions of albums worldwide, his hair -

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I mean, sorry, he -

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is still as big today as ever.

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The matron... I could just see her thinking,

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"I've got to switch it off."

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There's nothing like that to engage a bunch of 12-year-old girls.

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It was just, like, "Right.

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"I'm going to watch Rod Stewart and I'm going to love him."

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Right, let's fast forward to the late '90s

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and find out what Tinchy was listening to in London.

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The music I listened to -

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so many different ones, but garage.

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# Re-e-wind

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# When the crowd say bo, selecta... #

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'I remember when Craig David, Artful Dodger, had Rewind.

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That's one of them songs where you feel like,

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"Whoa. That's something we like."

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At first, for some reason, I didn't understand, I thought,

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"Why's everything going backwards?"

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And everyone was like, "The song's called Rewind."

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Rewinding.

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Good work, Sherlock(!)

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But as an aspiring rapper,

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Tinchy didn't restrict himself to one type of music.

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I liked different things. I liked Destiny's Child,

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TLC, Jay-Z. So many different things.

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# No matter how pretty she is... #

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But our Tinch didn't just like the cool acts.

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He didn't mind a bit of pop as well.

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I liked a bit of Spice Girls.

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-Told you!

-My favourite Spice Girls song,

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I have to say, was I think, 2 Become 1.

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# I need some love like I've never needed love before...

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'I liked the video.'

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I liked how it felt fresh and exciting and new.

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# Set your spirit free... #

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'My favourite Spice Girl was probably Posh,

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because I support Man U

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and David Beckham, and it all made sense. It linked up.

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Everyone's got a favourite Spice Girl.

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Mine was Sporty, but don't tell anyone!

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BOTH: Oh, yes!

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We catch up with top presenter Alex Jones

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and find out what life was like when she was 12.

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There's nothing worse than having a crush on somebody at 12,

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when you are super-geek and they are super-cool.

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Deborah watches some funny talking animals...

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It was sharp. It was funny stuff coming out of those animals' mouths.

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..we find out what show Tinchy would stay up for...

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I love football, so I couldn't wait.

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..and Dick and Dom pursue their dreams.

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Watching that, we went,

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"That has got to be the best job in the world."

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But first, let's see what big news stories

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had an impact on our celebrities when they were 12.

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'When I was 12,'

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there were a few big stories. I remember the eclipse.

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The last total solar eclipse this century

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was experienced by millions in Britain and around the world.

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In August 1999, the nation held their breath in excitement

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to see a total eclipse of the sun, as the sun, moon and earth

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lined up with each other for the first time in 72 years.

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At first I was like, "Whoa. Is this really going to happen?

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"It'll be dark, it'll black out. Is the world ending?" It was weird.

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When you're young, whatever you hear, you believe.

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'And when it started getting closer, you started having a bit of fear,

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'thinking, "This ain't a joke, it's actually happening."'

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Sunlight faded, temperatures dropped,

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and the whole southwest of England plunged into darkness.

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CROWD CHEER

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'This is it. It's gone totally dark.

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'I've never seen anything like this, ever.'

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Everyone watching waited for the moon to pass the earth

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and for the sunlight to reappear.

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But the eclipse wasn't fun for everyone,

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as some people were scared about what would happen during it.

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When it happened, I did start wondering,

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"What if it stays like this?"

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There was a bit of fear in the air, yeah.

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It was darker than I expected.

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Scary. Dead scary. Really, really, really scary.

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People were scared, but not forever.

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More like a minute, to be honest.

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'It's starting to get a bit light again.'

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We've had the darkest time of it, but it's been incredible.

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Around 350 million people in Europe and Asia witnessed the eclipse,

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which was lucky for them,

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as the next time this happens over the UK will be in 2090.

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So, not so long to wait, then(!)

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Whilst Tinchy was being left in the dark,

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what was a big story for Deborah when she was 12?

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One thing I was really aware of

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was either the first or the second year -

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I think it might have been the second year - of Glastonbury.

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The early '70s saw a new craze in the UK.

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No, not bearded man playing tambourines,

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although that was very popular back then.

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It was this - music festivals in fields.

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They quickly became very popular with those who loved music,

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as they could see all their favourite bands in one place

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over a weekend, but they weren't so popular with the locals.

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-I think it's dreadful.

-Can you tell me why?

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Well, sanitation, for one thing, and there's just not enough room for it.

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And Glastonbury was no different.

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In those days, it was a farmer who decided to put on an event in his field

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and I've got to tell you, locally, it was a nightmare.

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Nobody wanted Glastonbury.

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The Glastonbury Festival was started in 1970

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by a local farmer called Michael Eavis.

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Thousands of people arrived for the event on motorbikes, in cars

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and with caravans, blocking roads and causing a lot of disruption.

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It was not welcomed with open arms, and it scared people.

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They had no idea what was going to happen

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and people, they don't like the unknown.

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Now I smile a bit, because I think,

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if it wasn't for the tenacity of one man,

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because we all sit here now saying how fantastic it is.

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Boy, did he get a lot of opposition when he first started.

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Today, Glastonbury is one of the biggest festivals in the world

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with over 100,000 people enjoying the event

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with some of the biggest pop stars in the world.

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Back in 1971, Deborah didn't want to miss out on the party either,

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but her mum and dad had other plans.

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My parents were very emphatic, I was not going to Glastonbury.

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In fact, my sister, who was a little bit older, she wasn't to go either,

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and she went, and I was really, really envious.

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I don't really regret much in life but that might be one thing I regret,

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I still wish I'd done it.

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In 1989, when Dick was 12,

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a football disaster shocked the country.

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When I was 12, a big news story was the Hillsborough disaster.

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The government announced a full investigation

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into Britain's worst ever sports disaster.

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In 1989, 96 people lost their lives

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in one of football's most tragic disasters.

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Liverpool and Nottingham Forest fans were in Sheffield

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at a stadium called Hillsborough, watching their teams play.

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Fences surrounded the pitch

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and when too many fans entered the ground, people were crushed.

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I remember it personally, because it was a Saturday afternoon

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and my mum got rushed away for work,

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she worked at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital in Sheffield, in A&E.

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And a short time ago, the Prince and Princess arrived

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at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital to meet some of the injured fans.

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I said to my dad, "Where's Mum? Why did she go to work for the weekend?"

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Because she didn't come back until Sunday afternoon

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as she'd been signing in all the casualties from Hillsborough.

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It was unbelievable, the amount of people that had been crushed

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and I can really remember the news footage from Newsround,

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seeing some of the other supporters ripping off those advertising boards

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and then using them as makeshift stretchers.

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The tragedy had a huge impact on safety at football grounds.

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Premiership football stadiums removed their fences

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and put in seating to stop it happening again.

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After that day, grounds throughout the country changed their seating,

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so now it's a lot more spacious in a football ground than it was then.

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On the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster,

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the fans and players from both teams pay tribute

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to the memory of those who lost their lives on that day.

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Still to come, we asked the all-important question,

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what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

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I think the most important thing is to find what it is you're about.

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When you go to secondary school,

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it feels like, like you're a big boy now.

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There's a lot of changes, your hormones are changing,

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-your mind is changing.

-Your body's changing.

-And your body, yeah.

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Before that, we've got two minutes with Alex Jones

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to find out what she was like at 12.

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Hello! Help!

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She's the star of the "One Show" you should never miss.

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BOTH: Oh, yes!

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But strictly speaking, what was Alex Jones like when she was 12?

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The only word to describe me when I was 12 was "geek".

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Very, very small, a face full of freckles,

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I just looked horrendous.

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Aww! But did Alex ever have a crush when she was a kid?

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Stephen Davis was a year older than me in school,

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the most popular boy in his year,

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and so far out of my reach.

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There's nothing worse than having a crush on somebody at 12

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when you are supergeek and they are supercool.

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I bet he's super kicking himself now,

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and talking of boys, there was one boy band Alex loved.

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My favourite band in the world were New Kids On The Block.

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# The first time was a great time

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# Second time was a blast... #

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We used to have New Kids On The Block nights

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so every Thursday, we would get together in somebody's house

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and watch all their videos back-to-back while eating doughnuts.

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It was the highlight of the week, the highlight of life at the time.

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Doing dance moves and eating doughnuts

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may have been the highlight of life,

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but what telly influenced our aspiring TV presenter?

0:21:020:21:06

The show I actually really loved was Blue Peter.

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MUSIC: "Blue Peter" theme

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-My favourite presenters were Caron Keating and Yvette Fielding.

-Yeah!

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Good morning!

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They made me want to be a children's presenter

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-and to this day, I'm a little bit jealous of Helen Skelton.

-Hello!

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If I was 12 again,

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I wouldn't change much, I'd still do mostly the same thing

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but just try and have a bit more belief in me

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and not give myself such a massively hard time.

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Have a lovely weekend! Byee!

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And it's all worked out in the end.

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Right, let's get back to business

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and find out what Dick and Dom, Tinchy and Deborah

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were watching when they were 12.

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I was probably the kind of kid you wouldn't want to talk to

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cos I was a TV geek at that point,

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meaning I was obsessed with children's television,

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-because at 12 years old, I knew what I wanted to do.

-I was the same.

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We used to watch childrens' TV and CBBC, so you know watching that

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I went, "That has got to be the best job in the world."

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I remember me and my brother were so obsessed with childrens' TV

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we'd applied to go on lots of different shows

0:22:090:22:12

so I was in the audience once of Going Live!

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It had a great theme tune as well.

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Here we go.

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DICK SINGS THEME TUNE

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# Going...Going...Going Live! #

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But it wasn't just the BBC that Dick was watching on a Saturday morning.

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There was also a programme on ITV, on the other channel,

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the other side, called the Wide Awake Club.

0:22:350:22:37

# We're wide awake! #

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-HE MAKES A SIREN SOUND

-This isn't annoying.

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The Wide Awake Club was ITV's big Saturday morning show.

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And the masked team wins again.

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I was jealous cos my brother went on the Wide Awake Club.

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He got a Whack Pack, a little lunch box you got.

0:22:510:22:53

And he did the Singing In The Shower bit.

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Like a lot of kids' shows, it launches many careers,

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but this one launched Hollywood legend Mike Myers.

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Hi, I'm Mike.

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The voice of Shrek made his first TV appearance on the show.

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But for Timmy Mallet, it made him one of the most popular kids'

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TV presenters of all time.

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Timmy Mallet, he came onto the Bungalow

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and had then become obsessed with our show.

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He gave me my own mallet.

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-Pinky punky.

-Thanks, Timmy.

-IN CHILD'S VOICE: Mr Mallet.

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Saturday wasn't just Dick and Dom's best day for TV,

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it was also Tinchy's favourite.

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Saturday mornings, you feel like when you wake up, you know without having

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to go through any channels, you know, I'm watching Live And Kicking.

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Live And kicking was the big BBC saturday morning kids' show of the '90s.

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And when Tinchy was watching, it was at the height of its fame.

0:23:470:23:52

Everybody, out!

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It felt like it was cool.

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For me, personally,

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I remember Saturday morning Live And Kicking definitely.

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With Tinchy's saturday morning sorted, in the evening,

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it was all about football.

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I love football so Match Of The Day was one of those,

0:24:050:24:10

you just couldn't wait.

0:24:100:24:10

My mum used to tell me,

0:24:120:24:13

when I was four, I could name so many football players.

0:24:130:24:16

I thought, "How did I know this at four.,"

0:24:160:24:19

football has always been a part of me.

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Match Of The Day was something you couldn't wait for on a saturday.

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You just wanted to get in and watch Match Of The Day.

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Tincy, I couldn't agree more.

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In 1971, Deborah was watching a show with one of the best

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theme tunes of all time.

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Animal Magic hosted by Johnny Morris started in 1962

0:24:420:24:47

anfd ran for 21 years. What a tune!

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You'd go and visit the animals in the zoo and these animals would

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move their mouths a bit and then there'd be this...

0:24:540:24:57

He put words to it.

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'Do you mind if I come and sit on your lap?'

0:24:580:25:01

'Don't you think you'd better support your baby's head, Delilah?'

0:25:010:25:06

'Look, if you're so blinking clever, you look after him. Go on.'

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Lots of TV shows add voices to animals nowadays

0:25:100:25:13

but Animal Magic was one of the first

0:25:130:25:15

and Johnny Morris and his chums became an instant hit.

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It was funny, it was sharp,

0:25:180:25:20

it was funny stuff coming out of those animals' mouths.

0:25:200:25:23

That's an odd way of putting it.

0:25:230:25:24

Its main aim was to teach kids all about animals.

0:25:240:25:28

Johnny Morris was like the Steve Backshall of his day,

0:25:280:25:31

-except he owned a shirt.

-You must be very quiet,

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because a lot of noise seems to upset the mother panda.

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But I do think it gave me a place to learn about animals

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and to watch animals and be engaged with animals.

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It was entertaining and informative.

0:25:420:25:44

But not always for Johnny.

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Ouch! Dear.

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So that's what our three celebs were watching on the telly

0:25:500:25:53

but what do they remember most about being 12?

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Being 12, when you go into secondary school, it feels like,

0:25:560:25:59

you feel like you're a big boy now,

0:25:590:26:01

social life, girlfriends,

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growing up, it's really where it is now.

0:26:030:26:06

It feels like a whole new world.

0:26:060:26:07

It's very easy to spend your life

0:26:070:26:10

trying to best guess what it is

0:26:100:26:12

that life or your friends or your family are expecting of you,

0:26:120:26:17

and it all getting ever so confusing.

0:26:170:26:19

I think the most important thing is to find what it is that you're about.

0:26:190:26:23

As well as being good, being 12, it was quite an awkward time.

0:26:230:26:27

-You're about to become a teenager, aren't you?

-Yeah,

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so there's a lot of changes.

0:26:300:26:31

Your hormones are changing, your mind is changing.

0:26:310:26:34

-Body, everything's changing.

-And your body.

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And that's quite something to deal with.

0:26:360:26:38

But you know, I quite like change

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and I think even then, I quite liked change,

0:26:400:26:43

cos it presents lots of new stuff.

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While some of that stuff is really confusing

0:26:440:26:47

and you don't know what to do about it, it's also really challenging.

0:26:470:26:52

I wouldn't change anything if I was 12 again

0:26:520:26:54

because I believe strongly everything happens for a reason.

0:26:540:26:57

Maybe there are a couple of things where I may have made things easier

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but at the same time,

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the harder struggles you see when you're younger,

0:27:020:27:04

it makes you appreciate and understand more

0:27:040:27:06

and respect where you are now.

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Well, if I could talk to myself again when I was 12,

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I would tell myself that I am dyslexic

0:27:110:27:14

and that I'm not as stupid as I think I am

0:27:140:27:18

and that all the problems I've got with learning is purely because

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dyslexia is basically a learning disability.

0:27:220:27:25

You do your stuff in life and you embrace it, you enjoy it.

0:27:250:27:29

I still wish I'd got on that bus with my sister to go to Glastonbury.

0:27:290:27:34

Don't lose your vision of what you want to do. I made that decision

0:27:340:27:37

I wanted to be sitting here now, being a CBBC presenter

0:27:370:27:40

and I never looked back, so I'd say to myself, "Carry on, lad.

0:27:400:27:43

"Do exactly the same," really.

0:27:430:27:44

Jazz hands? Jazz hands!

0:27:440:27:47

So what have we learned?

0:27:480:27:50

If you're ever lucky enough to see a total eclipse,

0:27:500:27:53

remember it's not that fun for everyone

0:27:530:27:55

Scary! Dead scary, really, really, really scary.

0:27:550:27:59

If you're a rock band picking characters,

0:27:590:28:01

make sure you don't get left looking like a badger.

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And if you don't want a free baby, don't sit beside a gorilla.

0:28:040:28:08

'You look after him, go on.'

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