Episode 21 Debatable

Hello and welcome to Debatable,

where today one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

But they are not on their own.

They will have a panel of well-known faces debating their way to the

answers. Will they help or will they hinder?

As always, that's debatable. So, let's meet them.

All talk today.

We have broadcaster Dan Walker.

We have former Royal correspondent Jennie Bond,

and writer and journalist Grace Dent.

So we start with Jennie.

Jennie, let's talk debating skills.

I'm assuming that you are polite but firm.

Ah! I always shied away from debating at school,

or university, I must say.

But a couple of years ago, I did take part in a debate

about the future of the monarchy,

which is something I don't normally do.

I had six minutes and I made six pretty salient points,

I thought. Add to my amazement, they all started squirming at one

particular point in the debate when I was talking about how recognisable

the Queen is around the world, having travelled with her,

what an ambassador she is for this country.

And I said, what other head of state is that well-known?

I said, "Who is the head of state of Germany?" for example.

Are you asking me?

Well, I asked them, and they all squirmed, didn't know.

Anyway, they were all so embarrassed that they decided, actually,

the monarchy is a good thing.

You won them over.

Now, Dan, of course.

-Yeah.

-I mean, on Football Focus, I mean, I watch it every week.

We like a hostile debate.

You do like a hostile debate.

My role in there is normally to tee them up and let them go with it.

But I never really debated at school,

we didn't have a debating society.

More sort of shouting at mates, really.

But as a parent of three, I spend much of my life

debating with my children

about how much telly they're allowed to watch.

That's basically my debating history at the moment.

Now, when you say debating with your kids,

does that mean that you try to be the boss and they just do their own

-thing?

-Yeah, I do that.

I've been working over the years on the dad face.

Go on. Give us your dad face.

This is, "It's got to go now and you need to go to bed," OK?

What do you think?

-That's good.

-Yeah. Cross but not angry.

-Yes.

-Firm.

-So there is no water bottles kicked at home?

-None of that stuff?

-No.

Nobody is going to be sent to the stands today then, Dan?

-No, hopefully not. No.

-OK.

Grace. Now, Grace, you've got opinions.

You have knowledge.

I'm imagining that you're pretty good on debating.

Well, my job is definitely to be persuasive

and put up a good argument,

but I'm always deeply jealous of anybody

who learned to debate at school.

I just feel... Cos, yeah, I went to a comprehensive in the '80s

in the North, and we didn't have a debating society.

We had a pig.

A pig? At school?

Yeah. We did. That's the face everybody pulls.

We did. We had a pig you could go and look at and kind of learn

how to keep a pig. This is absolutely true.

We used to put a hat on it on its birthday.

Magnificent.

Now, Jennie, you're in the middle seat.

You are going to harness...

Yeah, it's my duty to decide what we're going to go with each time.

It's going to be quite tricky, probably.

We'll have very different views, maybe.

And skills of your panellists?

Well, I'm relying on this guy for everything sporty.

-Think carefully.

-Everything to do with pop culture.

Pop culture, the wide umbrella of pop culture.

-Cookery.

-And food.

I'm a restaurant critic. So hopefully we should, between us,

be able to do some good.

-Rather than evil.

-That's good. So that's the panel.

Let's meet today's contestant. It is Susan from Glasgow.

-Susan, welcome to the show.

-Hiya.

-How you doing?

-Good.

Tell us a wee bit about yourself.

My name is Susan, I'm a structural engineer.

And what does that entail, Susan?

Architects design buildings, we make them not fall down.

OK. This appears to be a very important job.

We like to think so.

And how do you do that?

There is a lot of numbers involved.

We know the weight of everything.

What do you do in your spare time?

I like to travel a lot.

Where have you been? Where would you like to go?

Oh, the dream is...train travel at the moment.

-OK.

-So breakfast in London, lunch in Paris, dinner in Barcelona.

And then how long is the train from Paris down to Barcelona?

I think it's about seven hours.

So you can get there in time for a late dinner.

What will happen on the train for the seven hours?

-There might be some wine to be drunk, I think, on the train.

-I see.

Essentially, what you're going to do is you just basically want to do

a pub crawl on a train, is that it?

A three-country pub crawl on a train.

An international pub crawl.

Doesn't that just sound like fun, though?

I mean, that sounds like probably the best reason that anybody has

-come on here to try and win any money.

-Absolutely.

-OK, look,

you're going to have to pay close attention because you can only

choose one of our panellists to play the Final Debate.

All will be revealed as we play the game.

-Are you ready to play?

-Yes.

OK, here we go. Best of luck, Susan.

Let's play Round One.

Round One, Susan, is multiple choice.

You have four possible answers,

there are four questions in this round.

£200 up for grabs for each correct answer, a possible £800.

Here comes your first one.

I've been to a couple of those cities.

So I know at least one that it isn't.

-OK. The one that it isn't is?

-Is Ljubljana.

-OK.

-I think I've a decent idea of what the actual answer is.

OK, well, if you've got a decent idea what the answer is,

the fun thing to do will be to tell us nothing.

So, panel. Your debate starts now.

Goodness, Susan. I've been to Ljubljana, too.

I went there with Prince Charles, I remember.

I remember it was very, very pretty, and for the life of me,

I can't remember what country it was in.

But I don't think it was Slovakia.

Tirana is Albania.

-Albania, yeah.

-And...

-Can I throw some football knowledge into the...?

-Go on, then.

-Please do.

Sam Allardyce's first game

in charge of England and, well,

very short reign, was against Slovakia,

and I think that was Bratislava,

and they won 1-0. So...

-You think.

-I know we'll meant to debate these things, but I think

Bratislava is the answer because that's where they play international

-matches.

-Actually, I did meet one of the people,

the many people, you know,

from Slovakia. He was a waiter.

Quite recently. And I like to chat with waiters.

And, "Where are you from?" Blah, blah.

And he said he was from Bratislava.

And I said, "Where's that?"

And he said...

Slovakia.

There you go. Your waiter chat is coming in very handy.

So that's what I would go with.

There was an advert in the '80s about central heating,

and it says, "Is it Bratislava on your landing?"

And it was about how cold your house is.

This means nothing, but all I can think of,

it's clearly a cold place and it's clearly a well-known place.

You've got radiator knowledge,

you've got friends who are from Slovakia...

Yeah, but this is me sounding like I know a lot is when I actually know

less than you could put on a postage stamp.

OK, so, based on a bit of football knowledge,

a bit of radiator knowledge and a bit of waiter knowledge,

we are going to go with Bratislava.

You see, Susan, broad knowledge.

Broad knowledge is what our panel brings to these questions.

Yes.

That backs up what my instinct was, actually.

I reckon Bratislava as well.

You are going with the panel.

To get you up and running, is Bratislava the capital of Slovakia?

-It is.

-Thank goodness for that.

It is indeed.

Bratislava, the capital of Slovakia.

-Ljubljana is the capital of Slovenia.

-Ah!

-There you go.

-Skopje is the capital of the Republic of Macedonia.

Tirana, you were right, Dan, is the capital of Albania.

Well done, Susan. You're up and running.

-£200.

-Excellent.

Let's see if we can keep it going with this one.

I...wouldn't have a clue about that.

So I guess the most useful one would be the stamps.

OK. Not really sure about this.

Panel, I'm sure you can quickly sort this out.

Your debate starts now.

-What would you sell?

-I can't see why you would sell, auction, anyway,

first-class stamps cos you'd just go down the post office and get

-some.

-I'm thinking the first thing sold was possibly sold by the person

-who wrote the code and invented the site.

-Hm.

And that type of person would be more likely to have a broken laser

pointer sitting around their office that they wanted to sell.

I've got a vague memories, right,

of somebody I interviewed on 5 Live a few years ago,

and he had done a Ted Talk about

auctioning on the internet.

And I'm sure there was some sort of joke about the laser pointer that he

-was using.

-Ah!

This was years ago, but it looks like one of those ridiculous...

-But then any of them could be.

-I know, yes.

It's the sort of thing you say,

"Now we're eBay, it's a multi-million pound business,

"and it started with a broken laser pointer."

-Or a chipped teacup.

-Yeah.

-I have attended many, many auctions

presenting Cash In The Attic,

and, you know, there are chipped teacups

and there are chipped teacups.

I mean, it could be a very, very valuable teacup.

I think we're going towards the laser pointer.

-The laser pointer.

-Because it's a little random and you think...

I just... It's a great story, isn't it?

Yeah, it's a good story. Shall we go with it?

-Shall we go with the laser pointer?

-I think we should go with it.

-Let's do it.

-OK? Decision made.

We are going to go with the broken laser pointer.

OK. Based on some vague memories and a tiny bit of knowledge.

It's like a super vague memory.

It's a better vague memory that anything I know,

so I'm going to go with them and go with the broken laser pointer.

OK. Agreeing with the panel, for a second time.

For £200, the first item auctioned on AuctionWeb was...

Yes! A broken laser pointer.

Well done.

Very well done.

The name eBay comes from the domain

Pierre Omidyar used for his site.

His company's name was Echo Bay.

And then eBay AuctionWeb.

It was sold by Omidyar himself, and he got around 14 for it.

Oh, no.

That's the laser pointer, not eBay,

which is worth significantly more than 14 today.

Well played, Susan. Well done, panel.

Another £200 into the prize pot.

You are up to £400.

OK. Here's your next question.

Tom Jones must have some kind of lifetime achievement award

at some point.

My guess would be Radiohead.

Just because the other two are both pop.

OK. It's not a bad thought.

You're thinking Radiohead.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-Pop queen.

-Oh, this is really difficult.

I think One Direction, they must have had Brits.

They must have had Brits, and they would need to be...

They are such a massive draw that I can't imagine that they haven't been

honoured, you know?

They have definitely won Brits. I've visualised it.

I can see it now.

Radiohead seems like the obvious answer because it is the Brits.

However, I think that I have a memory of them getting up

and looking awkward.

Matt Goss came on BBC Breakfast at the tail end of last year.

-OK.

-And he was talking about all the gongs he had won.

-Yes.

And I am pretty certain he mentioned a Brit.

-OK.

-At the peak of their powers.

And I interviewed Tom Jones probably a year ago. I'm sure he has won

-Brits.

-He has.

-I'm sure he has won Brits.

And I vague memories, although I've been reading, maybe,

an article about Radiohead, and they were saying they don't care

they don't win awards. Cos I don't think they've ever won

-a Mercury music prize either.

-OK, yeah.

Through your powers of deduction and through mine, I think we have to go

with Radiohead. But at this stage, I've got to say,

nothing would surprise me.

We are, with not any great degree of certainty,

going to go with Radiohead.

Oh, no.

So, Jennie says no degree of certainty.

However, Dan is pretty certain.

Yeah, I would be swithering between Radiohead and Bros myself.

He's more certain than me, so I'm going with them.

-I'm going with Radiohead.

-OK, you're going with the panel.

-Yep.

OK.

Here we go. Fingers crossed.

Have Radiohead never won a Brit award as of January 2017?

Thank you.

You were right, guys. One Direction have won five Brit Awards.

Their first was in 2012 for What Makes You Beautiful

as Single of the Year.

Bros won the British Newcomer at the Brits in 1989.

Well remembered from that interview, Dan.

Tom Jones won an Outstanding Contribution award

back in 2003 and was voted

Best British Male Solo Artist all the way back in 2000.

-Radiohead have been nominated 16 times...

-Wow!

..and have never won a Brit Award.

OK, very well done, panel.

Very well worked out, Susan.

Another £200 into your prize pot.

You're up to £600.

One more question in this round.

Let's see if we can make it a clean sweep.

Here we go.

My guess would be Boris Johnson.

I know he has a sister,

but I thought she was, like, a newspaper columnist

or some kind of...journalist?

-You're not sure?

-I'm not sure.

Don't worry. Don't worry.

Panel, can you shed any light on this?

-Your debate starts now.

-Well, you're right, Rachel Johnson.

She's a very well-known journalist, isn't she?

But you think Boris has a...?

No, I'm sure I've interviewed his brother.

-Really?

-His name escapes me.

-He looks very much like him. He's an MP.

-He looks exactly like him.

-Yeah.

-Definitely an MP.

-Angela Eagle obviously has a twin.

-Yeah.

-There's two Eagles, yeah.

-So we're down to Keith and Diane.

Diane Abbott has been the MP for near my...

not my constituency but the one along

for as long as I can remember,

and I have never heard that she had

a sibling who was an MP.

No, I haven't. Diane?

It feels unfeasible to me

-that I wouldn't know that Diane Abbott had...

-Me too.

Whereas Keith Vaz is somewhat of a question mark to me,

and I do not know anything about him.

-Yeah.

-Diane Abbott has been involved

in politics heavily

-since freshers, university.

-Forever, yeah.

-Forever.

Yeah, I can't... I mean,

it's one of those things where you see the answer and you think,

"Oh, yes, of course, that person." But, like you,

I can't think of any reference to a family member for Diane Abbott

-who is also an MP.

-I think we're going for...

Do you agree with Diane?

I'm not sure. I don't know.

-OK.

-I don't know whether that's...

I'm going to say... So, my strongest thought would be Diane.

Well, based on two to one...

..we're going to go with Diane Abbott as the right answer.

So, Susan, the panel not completely in agreement with this.

But they're going for Diane Abbott.

I have a bit of idea in my head that Keith Vaz has a sister

in politics, so I'm going to agree with the panel and go Diane Abbott.

OK.

You think that Diane Abbott doesn't have a sibling who is also an MP.

For £200, the correct answer is...

It is Diane Abbott.

A sigh of relief there from Dan.

Very well played, Susan.

Boris Johnson's brother is called Jo.

-There you go.

-He is the Conservative MP for Orpington.

So you've got BoJo and JoJo.

I was trying to remember.

Keith Vaz's sister, Valerie, is a Labour MP for Walsall South.

Well done.

Maria and Angela Eagle are thought to be the first twins ever to sit

in a Shadow Cabinet. And Diane has a brother, Hugh, but he is not an MP.

-Ah.

-So well worked out, panel.

Very well done, Susan.

I mean, at the end of the first round, it is four out of four.

You're up to £800.

So, let's see how we go with pictures.

It's time for Round Two.

Susan, Round Two is the picture round.

We just need you to, he says, to put three pictures in the correct order.

We all know it's not that simple.

There are three questions in this round,

£300 for each correct answer,

a possible £900 up for grabs.

Here comes your first picture question.

-The oldest one is easy, that's the Sphinx.

-OK.

Then the Venus de Milo, then Michelangelo's David.

Susan, hold that thought.

Let's see if the panel can bring anything else to this.

Your debate starts now.

I think that's a pretty close call.

I think that sounded...

It's got to be the Sphinx is the oldest.

Well, that's one of the Ancient Wonders of the World,

-isn't it?

-Yes.

-Like the temple of Mausolus.

What's the guy that was across the...?

The Colossus at Rhodes.

It's up there with all that lot, isn't it?

So that's got to be the earliest.

I think so. Don't you?

-Yes.

-I mean, here we are in very, very ancient Greece.

-Yeah.

-Aren't we?

-Shall we put this one down here?

-Right.

-We think.

-We agree on the Sphinx.

-Yeah.

I don't know anything about the Venus de Milo.

But is Michelangelo's David not a Renaissance period thing?

And is that not 1500ish?

-Yeah.

-1540...

-Something like that.

Instinctively, you think Michelangelo is the...

-Newest.

-..newest.

-Michelangelo is...

Yes. That has to be before this.

I think so.

-Yeah.

-But what period is that?

-We don't know much about it.

We know what that is. We've got a hold on that.

I know nothing about the Venus de Milo.

We're pretty sure this can't be there, but it could...

I suppose that's the only debate, whether those two...

Because after that would be...

I don't connect that with Tudor times or anything.

I somehow connect it with ancient Greece,

but I don't really know why.

-Again I'm just...

-I think we're going to have to stick with this.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere.

-Yes.

-OK. All right, then.

Well, we are going to go with the oldest being the Sphinx,

then Venus de Milo and then Michelangelo's David.

OK, Susan, they are pretty sure about the Sphinx,

they are pretty sure about Michelangelo's David.

They don't have a lot of knowledge on Venus de Milo.

Yeah, sticking with my first instinct and with them,

-I think that's the right order.

-OK.

The Sphinx, the Venus de Milo and Michelangelo's David.

That was your first thought.

With the knowledge the panel has brought to this,

you aren't changing your mind. You're going with them. For £300.

Well done!

Good knowledge, Susan.

Yeah, we went with Susan, to be honest.

I didn't like to say that, but, I mean...

The Great Sphinx at Giza in Egypt

is thought to be around 4,500 years old,

dating from the reign of King Khafre at around 2500 BC.

Venus de Milo was carved from marble probably by Alexandros,

the sculpture at Antioch during the second century BC.

David is a marble sculpture carved from 1501 to 1504.

You were right, Grace, during the Italian Renaissance by Michelangelo.

Very well played, panel.

Very well done, Susan.

Another £300 into your prize pot.

You are now up to £1,100.

Here comes your next question.

My guess is euro would be the shortest.

Then probably 20 bill, the longest.

But I...I wouldn't be putting a 20 bill on that answer being right.

You wouldn't put money on this.

OK, panel. Let's see if we can get some money for the money.

Your debate starts now.

I've got some dollars in my purse

right now cos I've just got back

from Antigua,

and we use a lot of US bills there.

-They're long.

-They...

I think they're quite small. They're quite small,

but they might be long.

Small and long, aren't they?

Yeah, but they are quite small.

I think the £20 note is quite big.

The Euros are little tiddlers, aren't they?

Euro, they're quite small.

Are we all in agreement, gut instinct,

that the £20 note is the largest out of all of this?

Because £20, to me, still feels...

-Massive.

-..big.

-You have to unfold it.

It still feels like a treat

when you look into your purse and you see a 20,

and you bring it out, it still feels enormous.

But dollars are... They're thin but long, aren't they?

So we are veering towards £20 being down here, as the largest.

-No?

-I don't... I mean...

I've just got...

Dollars are quite...

They're long, aren't they? They are thin and long.

Are we in agreement we all feel the 20 euro is the smallest?

Because when you've been handling that,

-that doesn't feel...

-Who wants the euro?! Nobody.

And they are quite small.

Dan, you would actually go with that one as being the longest?

I'm...

I've just got visions of long dollars.

LAUGHTER

They are... Even the 1 bill is quite...

OK, I see what you're saying.

Well, maybe that's why I do fold

them up, because they are so long.

But Grace is right, the 20 is fat, isn't it?

It feels like a big old piece of paper,

doesn't it, in your wallet?

I think I'd probably go in this order. What do you think, Grace?

That feels right to me, but I am slightly

shook by the fact that dollars are actually quite long.

If it was height, you'd go £20 note all day, every day.

All right, OK. I'm going to go with you, Dan.

Be it on your head. There we go.

So, our answer is the euro comes as the smallest in length,

and then the £20 note, and then the US bill, the 20 bill.

Oh, dear.

-Wrong!

-Oh...

-So...

-The £20 note, I'm sure, is a bigger bit of paper,

but I think long and thin thing, might be,

so I'm going to go 20 euro note, then the £20,

and then the 20,

and then I'm going to do this.

OK. In order of length

in millimetres of their longest side,

you're agreeing with the panel again.

20 euro note, then the £20 note then the 20 bill.

For £300, which we will pay you in 20s,

is that the right order?

It is the right order!

-Very well done.

-Thank you.

The 20 euro note is 133 millimetres long.

Then we have the £20 note, which is 149 millimetres.

-Then the 20 bill is 156.

-Oh!

Very well done, panel.

Very well played, Susan.

I mean, 100% record continues.

It means you're now up to £1,400.

OK, here comes your final picture question.

Frasier is Seattle,

so it's got to be the most northerly.

Sex And The City is New York.

Arrested Development I have never seen, but I think it's LA.

And I've no idea...

I guess LA is warmer so it must be further south than New York.

So going from south to north, I would go Arrested Development,

Sex And The City, Frasier.

OK, Susan, let's see if our panel can bring anything to this.

Your debate starts now.

I've never seen Arrested Development. Anyone know?

I've seen it a few times years ago.

I've watched Arrested Development

a lot, and I'm so pleased that you said LA.

That's what it feels like to me.

-Yeah. We are going south to north. Are we going south to north?

-Yeah.

So that would be the most southerly, Arrested Development?

-Yeah, so you want it there, don't you?

-Oh, is it south to north?

Yes, exactly. Put it exactly here.

Sex And The City is definitely New York.

I have been on the Sex And The City

bus tour.

Of course you have!

Yeah! So, Frasier, where is that?

-Where is that filmed?

-That's Seattle, is it?

It's not Cincinnati?

No, it's Chicago.

Well, if it Seattle or Chicago,

do we agree that those two cities

are probably north of New York?

That's New York.

I think Chicago is.

I think Frasier is Chicago.

All right,

so we're going with that. I think.

-Aren't we?

-Yes.

You've shown no confidence, team, whatsoever.

However...

-Yeah.

-Got to give an answer.

So we are going most southerly is Arrested Development,

and then Sex And The City, and then Frasier.

So our panel going for Arrested Development,

Sex And The City and Frasier,

although they are not sure what city Frasier is in.

They have now given me the fear,

but I'm pretty sure Frasier is set in Seattle.

Oh!

So I'm going to agree with their order, though,

because it's still the most northerly.

So Arrested Development, Sex And The City, then Frasier.

OK, you agree with the order but not the geography.

£300.

Is that the correct order?

It is!

-Well done.

-Very well done, Susan.

Arrested Development is set in Newport Beach,

in Southern California,

just south of LA.

Sex And The City is set in New York.

Frasier is set in Seattle -

Susan, you were right -

in the Northwest of the US.

Very well done.

Susan, at the end of Round Two, you are up to £1,700.

So, how do you think the panel is faring now, Susan?

Are they still proving useful?

They've not got one wrong yet so...

-Some people would suggest that you haven't got one wrong yet.

-Well...

You are going to have to choose one of them at the end of the show.

There is still another round to go.

£1,500 up for grabs, as we play Round Three.

OK, Susan, in Round Three, you will face questions containing three

statements about a person, a place or a thing.

Only one of those statements is true.

We need you to find it.

Because it is the final round, the money goes up to £500 for each

correct answer, so a possible £1,500 up for grabs.

Here comes your first one.

I don't know which one of those would be the true one at all.

OK, don't worry. That's what the panel is here for.

Panel, I'm sure we can sort this out.

Your debate starts now.

I think we might blot our copybook here.

Is she the same age as Neil Diamond?

How old is Babs?

70?

Yeah, they're...

I would love the Donald Trump thing to be true.

The first one seems feasible.

I thought her first film was something like Funny Girl.

-Was it?

-The one that she did with Omar Sharif.

-Yeah?

Because I thought that when Omar Sharif arrived on set,

he had never...

He didn't really know who she was.

Went to school with Neil Diamond.

I don't know how...

She doesn't have to be exactly the same age as Diamond, does she?

-No.

-She could have been within, sort of, I suppose,

seven or eight years of him.

Donald Trump hates the Tonight Show, doesn't he?

But I don't know whether he's been on it before.

In the past. Which he might have been.

And it could be... They're counting a duet as just...

..he sings a line in a song that she is singing.

But I think you would have seen that in the last year or so,

wouldn't you?

I think we can discount Hello Dolly!

-Based on your knowledge.

-OK.

But also, I would agree with you.

She could easily have gone to school with Neil Diamond.

Yep.

-But we think we might have heard about the Trump thing.

-Yeah.

So we think the true statement is that Barbra Streisand

went to school with Neil Diamond.

Quite possibly, maybe, or maybe not.

But maybe.

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OK.

I actually can't fault any of that logic

so I'm going to go with went

-to school with Neil Diamond.

-Agreeing with the panel again.

For £500,

did Barbra Streisand go to school with Neil Diamond?

-She did!

-Amazing!

She did.

Very well done.

I never get sick of that feeling.

Every time we get one right.

Such a relief.

It's such a relief.

I don't know how we did that.

It doesn't matter how you did it, you did it.

They were in the choir together.

Also at the school at the same time

was the future chess champ Bobby Fischer,

who Barbra had a crush on.

Good knowledge from the panel. Well played, Susan.

It means you're up to £2,200.

Wow.

Getting serious.

OK. It's getting serious.

Here we go. Here comes question two.

There's something about Samuel Johnson's dictionary

in Blackadder the Third.

So that would be my guess.

OK, Susan is bringing Blackadder knowledge to this.

She has a cunning plan,

panel, but do you?

Your debate starts now.

-Right.

-OK, guys, cunning plans?

-Let's work through it.

-I'm so pleased that Susan said that because

that's... Like, Samuel Johnson's dictionary,

he brought it to give to Prince George,

who was it, King George?

Who was Blackadder working as a butler for then?

-Yeah.

-And he was... Was he...?

It was George.

-King George?

-Yes.

Nell Gwyn, wasn't she...

wasn't she the mistress? Is that Charles II?

-Yes, I think that's right.

-So that would be 17th century.

Yeah, earlier.

And when you know, Vasco da Gama

and all that were doing their business,

Abel Tasman, he discovered Tasmania, didn't he?

So he would have been down there.

And that, again, was mid-17th century.

-1600s?

-Yes, 1600s.

So, based on that scratchy historical knowledge and Blackadder.

Blackadder is basically our source for this.

OK. We are done. Yeah.

Based on Blackadder, purely, we're saying that

the dictionary was first published in the 18th century.

OK, Susan, our panel going with you.

They think that Samuel Johnson's dictionary was first published

in the 18th century.

Yeah. Blackadder is never wrong.

Surely. So I have to go with the dictionary being the 18th century.

OK, you're going with your first thought,

you're going with the panel.

Here we go. For £500,

was lexicographer Samuel Johnson's dictionary published

for the first time in the 18th century?

-Yes!

-It was.

-Hey!

-Very well done, Susan.

You're playing an absolute blinder.

Dr Samuel Johnson published his dictionary of the English language

in 1755.

Nell Gwyn was born in around 1650.

-Perfect.

-Perfect.

Comedienne on the London stage,

she was the mistress of Charles II.

Again, very well done.

Abel Tasman is officially recognised by New Zealand as the first

European to "discover the country" in December 1642.

Very well done, panel.

I mean, you're doing so, so well, Susan.

You're up to £2,700.

OK, Susan. One more question to go.

Can you make it an absolute clean sweep with this?

I know nothing about snooker.

If the answer isn't Steve Davis, I do not know what the answer is.

-OK.

-So I'm...

-So?

I'm up to whatever they decide.

OK. You know nothing about snooker.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-He's eager, he's eager.

-I think we can work this out.

-OK, go on.

-Right, so, the match ball thingy.

There's 22 balls in a snooker table.

So there's 15 reds.

One, two... It's a line of one,

then two, then three, then four, then five.

So there's 15, 16, 17.

Black, pink, blue, 18.

Yellow, green and brown.

Yellow, brown and green. Plus the white is 22.

So it can't be the middle one, right?

-OK.

-The World Championship has...

Well, the Strictly Come Dancing.

With regards to Strictly,

I know it's been going for quite a few years,

but I can think of any...

anyone that could have went through and won it.

Because it takes people's careers to a different place, and I can't think

-of anyone in the public eye...

-And also, you see,

modern snooker players,

none of them have been on it. Like, the modern bunch.

It's been from those from the '80s.

Thorne and Dennis Taylor.

-I can't think of another one.

-Was Steve Davis on it?

-I don't think Steve Davis has done it.

-Steve Davis hasn't done it.

And the top one, I think... Cliff Thorburn is Canadian.

He won it. But I think that's the closest we've got.

I don't think an American has ever won the World Snooker Championship.

-OK.

-So it has got to be the top one.

I am addicted to Strictly. I watch it the whole time, so...

I can't...

They don't really play snooker in America, they play pool.

So Cliff Thorburn, I'm sure he's the closest, being Canadian.

-I'm pretty confident.

-So you're pretty sure

it's never been won by an American?

-Yeah.

-OK.

-I think so.

OK, all right, then. Well,

we have decided that the true statement here

is that the World Championship has never been won by an American.

OK, Susan, you've played ever so well right the way through the game.

You've had some great knowledge.

This is one that you'd absolutely nothing on.

The panel, though,

think that the World Championships has never been won by an American.

Let's assume the panel are right again,

and go with never been won by an American.

OK.

For £500 and to make it a clean sweep on today's show,

has the snooker World Championship never been won by an American?

It's the right answer!

Fantastic. All that...

Well done.

Very well played. Good knowledge from the panel.

Outside the United Kingdom,

the only nationalities that have ever had players win

the World Championship are the Republic of Ireland,

Australia and Canada -

Cliff Thorburn. A match starts with 22 balls -

15 reds, six colours and the white.

As of the end of the 2016 series,

the only snooker players to have appeared on Strictly,

you were right,

Willie Thorne and Dennis Taylor.

Neither have won.

Susan, at the end of that, you've done ever so well.

It's an absolute clean sweep.

You've got the maximum of £3,200.

Which means, Susan, there's only one question

between you and that £3,200.

It is the Final Debate question.

Six possible answers, only three of them are correct.

We need you to find all three correct answers.

But you are not alone.

The good news is that you will be playing the Final Debate question

with one of these fine panellists.

So, will your 20s fit into your purse with Dan Walker?

Will you go with Jennie, who knows her sex and her cities?

Or will it be funny girl Grace?

I think because he knows different stuff from me,

I'm going to go with Dan.

OK. Dan, would you please join us for the Final Debate?

-OK, Dan, Susan.

-Ha-ha!

Ha-ha! Susan has put her faith in you.

-Oh, dear.

-It's a tidy sum at stake here.

I can genuinely feel the old heart rate going

quite significantly at the moment.

The whole shebang. Every question right so far.

It's been a clean sweep so far.

So we're really, really hoping that both of you can do this.

Because it is the Final Debate,

we're going to give you the choice of two, Susan.

Have a look at these categories, tell me what you prefer.

Yeah, neither of those leaps out at me.

If you ask me to pick one, I'd pick board games, but I'm not...

My scientific knowledge is not magnificent.

I don't know what yours is like.

No. I'm not great at chemistry.

Let's go board games.

OK, you're going for board games.

We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

£3,200 at stake.

Six possible answers, we need all three to be correct.

Best of luck. Here comes your final debate question on board games.

We've got this, we've got this.

Yes.

-That's red.

-Yeah.

-BOTH:

-That's green.

Correct, yellow.

-Your Final Debate time starts now.

-Come on, let's hug it out.

We're going to win you £3,200.

I agree with him.

Leicester Square, Coventry Street and Piccadilly.

All the ones on the left.

Yeah, Leicester Square, Piccadilly and Coventry Street.

Because Pall Mall is pink,

Regent Street is green,

Trafalgar Square is red.

100%. Come on.

You're going to win the cash!

LAUGHTER

What he said. Totally what he said.

OK, stop the clock.

Your three answers are?

-Leicester Square, Piccadilly...

-Yes!

-..Coventry Street.

-Yes!

OK.

I'm very excited for you.

OK. Dan is very excited for you, which means he's very confident.

Let's hope it's not misplaced.

First up, you said Leicester Square.

Is Leicester Square yellow on the classic London Monopoly board?

It is.

It's worth £260.

Next, you said Piccadilly.

Definitely yellow.

-Dan says it's definitely yellow.

-I'm sure it's yellow.

We need this to be yellow to keep you in the game.

Is Piccadilly yellow on the classic London Monopoly board?

Yes, it is.

Worth £280.

-It all boils down to this.

-Come on.

You seem very, very sure.

-Still as confident?

-Yeah, I'm sure.

Trafalgar is red, Regent Street is green,

-Pall Mall is sort of purpley-pink.

-OK.

For £3,200,

for an absolute clean sweep of today's show...

Come on. Give her the dosh.

LAUGHTER

..is Coventry Street yellow on the classic London Monopoly board?

Come on, Susan.

It's got to be.

Go green!

Yes!

-Thank you.

-Very well done.

Well played, Susan.

Absolutely amazing. Well done, Dan.

Good Monopoly knowledge there.

Susan, you've won £3,200.

Well done. Very well done.

You also got the other colours correct.

Trafalgar Square was red.

-Regent Street, you said, was green.

-Yeah.

And Pall Mall was pink.

Well, well played.

-Congratulations. Give it up one more time for Susan.

-Yes!

A clean sweep on today's show.

That is it for Debatable.

There's just enough time for me to thank a fantastic panel.

To Dan Walker, to Jennie Bond and Grace Dent.

I do hope you enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.