Episode 22 Debatable

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Hello and welcome to Debatable where, today,

one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

But they're not on their own,

as they will have a panel of celebrities

debating their way to the answer.

Will they be all talk and no action? That's debatable. Let's meet them.

On today's show, we have

broadcaster Matt Allwright,

actress and comedian Nina Wadia

and presenter Angela Scanlon.

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So, Nina, you are in the centre chair.

You are in charge of this panel.

What are you bringing to proceedings?

-You actually almost became a lawyer, is that true?

-I did, yes.

And then I ran away from uni

and I decided to go and be an actress

and my mum didn't speak to me for six months.

-So, there are debating skills in there.

-Oh, yes.

If I don't know the answer to something,

I will either run away or debate.

Matt, you're a man of the world, you've travelled the world.

-I've been everywhere, man.

-You have been everywhere.

-Yeah, pretty much.

-Like the song.

-As long as it's in the north-west of England,

I've been there.

I've had arguments in car parks all over the north-west of England.

If that's not living, I don't know what is.

But you taught in Japan for a few years.

Yeah, I was in Japan for three years, which was fantastic.

Straight after university.

And what are you hoping to come up on today's show, topic-wise?

I love film. Anything to do with film is good for me.

I love entertainment, the arts.

Music is a big subject as well, so those would be my big hitters.

I love, Angela, the way he says "film" with one syllable,

-whereas Irish people, we say it...

-"Fillum".

-Fillum.

-Yeah.

-It's two syllables, what's the problem with that?

-Obviously, yeah!

Now you, like me, you like a chat. How's your debating skills?

-Actually, I also wanted to be a lawyer.

-Ah.

-Mm.

After watching Ally McBeal, I thought it was quite glam.

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And my mum very wisely brought me into the high court

because she thought, "You know what? A lot of paperwork there.

"I don't know if it's really her bag, but let's have a bash."

So, I sat in the high court and I fell asleep

and that was the end of that for me.

I thought, "No, it's not really my thing, is it?"

OK, that's today's panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

It is Frankie from Rustington in West Sussex.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Hiya.

-Hi, Frankie, how you doing?

-I'm very well, thank you.

-You've dressed for the occasion.

-I have.

-We're ready to rock.

-Yes, we are.

-Tell us a bit about yourself.

I'm from West Sussex. I'm a singer and a cosplayer,

which is where you dress up and go to comic book conventions.

Of course you are!

And what do you dress up as when you go to these conventions?

Disney princesses is the...the costume of choice usually.

-So which Disney princess?

-My favourite one to do is Queen Elsa.

I actually decided to start doing her

for children's princess parties as well.

And you recently got engaged.

Yeah, my partner actually proposed to me last week

in front of the Disney castle in Disneyland Paris.

-PANEL:

-Ah!

-APPLAUSE

-ANGELA:

-Did you break into song?

I just broke into tears, actually. We should have.

So there's no point asking you what you'd do with the cash.

Well, I would like to put some money towards the wedding

but I've also had a dream of being a mermaid since I was tiny,

so I'd really love a professional mermaid tail to swim in.

So, you're going to need to pay close attention

to these three lovely people here,

as you'll just be picking one of them

-to help you in the Final Debate.

-Cool, sounds great.

-Ready to play?

-Yeah, I'm ready.

-Here we go. Let's play Round 1.

Frankie, in this round, it is multiple choice.

Each question has four possible answers.

-Only one of them is correct.

-OK.

There are four questions, £200 for each correct answer.

-Best of luck.

-Thank you.

-Here we go.

OK, so logic would tell me that, because of the mask,

a raccoon would make sense.

Cos they've got the little black eyes, haven't they?

So, if you're thinking raccoon,

let's see what our panel make of this.

The first question. Your debate starts now.

Well, I mean, my son loves Zorro

and when we looked up cartoons,

for some reason, I seem to remember

it's either a fox or a wolf popping up,

when we watched the cartoon.

If you think about the fact

-that he does most of his business in Mexico...

-Yeah.

..when it was sort of Spanish Mexico,

-southern states of the US - that's where I think it happens...

-Yeah.

-Do panthers exist there?

-Nope.

-Do foxes?

-Foxes do.

-Foxes definitely do.

-Foxes are all over the shop.

-Yeah.

-They get around.

-And they're wily, like him.

-Wolves...

I always associate them

-with cold climates.

-Yeah.

I don't know, I don't know.

-I just don't imagine it's a fox.

-Yeah.

Raccoon makes a lot of sense because of the mask.

This is the one Catherine Zeta-Jones is in, yeah?

-Yeah, with Antonio Banderas.

-Yes.

-I just don't see him as a raccoon.

And I don't see him as a fox!

-I do. He's a fox.

-He is.

-Course he's a fox!

I think you're right - fox or wolf.

And I think "lupo" is Spanish for "wolf".

-So then...

-What do you get from that?

Meaning it has to be fox, cos it can't be wolf,

if "lupo" is the other name for wolf.

And panther, I don't think panthers...

-They're cougars in the States, they're not panthers.

-Yeah.

Panthers are either African or Asian, maybe, I don't know.

-OK, what are we going for?

-What do you say?

-I'm going to say a raccoon.

-OK, how about yourself?

-I'd say fox.

-I say fox as well.

-OK.

-Do you mind?

-No, go for gold.

-All right.

OK, so we are going with a fox.

OK, does that make you change your mind?

Um, it's actually... It has challenged my logic.

I had a feeling it was either raccoon or wolf,

but I think I'm going to go with a raccoon.

-You're going to stick with your original answer.

-Yes.

-There it is.

For £200, the correct answer is...

-Oh.

-The correct answer is...

-Sorry.

-Sorry.

-No, no.

I love the fact the panel are quite surprised themselves

-that they managed to get the answer there.

-It's nice to get it right.

Zorro, of course, is the secret identity of Don Diego de la Vega,

a fictional nobleman created in 1919 by writer Johnston McCulley.

-OK, Frankie, no money added there.

-OK.

-There's still plenty of time.

Three more questions in this round. Here comes the next one.

This should be fun(!) I have no idea! Um, goodness me.

I, literally, have no clue when it comes to football.

It doesn't matter. That's what our panel is here for.

-That's that the panel is here for.

-Yes.

So, absolutely no pressure, panel. It's all on you.

Your debate starts now.

-I think London did apply for it, right?

-Right.

-It's like with...

-They have to bid for it, right?

-Mm-hmm.

-I tell you what...

The World Cup is coming to Russia,

so I think it's really unlikely...

-Maybe I'm thinking of the World Cup.

-..that the final...

So, the World Cup is...

I think it's Glasgow, and I don't know why.

-Do you?

-2016, 2020, so we've just had the Euros, OK?

-Yeah.

-So, the next Euros, 2020, the next World Cup is 2018...

-Mm-hmm.

..which IS in Russia.

So, how likely is it that we're going to have another Russian one?

-So close together.

-So, the World Cup and then...

I know they're separate organisations

but why would you have the World Cup

and then the Euros in St Petersburg after that?

Sure. Is there any chance it could be Glasgow?

I don't know why I keep going there.

I think we'd know if it was Scotland...

-..or if it was London.

-Mm.

-So...

My gut is saying Rome, but, honestly, it's...

I've not got a lot to go on, apart from that.

No. Well, if I go with your answer, I can blame you if you get it wrong.

-Yeah, that's fine.

-If I go with my instinct, I don't know.

-Gosh, help me.

-Nina, it's on you, boss.

-Oh, my!

-Good luck with this.

-Right, um, we will go with Rome.

-MATT WHISPERS:

-No, no, no!

Have the panel been much help?

I think I'm going to go with the panel on this one

and stick with Rome.

OK, you're agreeing with the panel, otherwise known as Matt.

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For £200, is that the correct answer?

-It was London!

-Wrong answer. FRANKIE:

-You'd think we'd know.

I know, you'd think we would.

To mark the 60th anniversary of the tournament,

commonly known as the Euros,

UEFA have announced that the matches are going to be played

-all around cities across Europe.

-Oh, OK.

And then the final will be played at Wembley Stadium.

It'll also host the semifinals.

So, I'm afraid nothing there, Frankie.

We still need to get you off the ball.

There's plenty of chances to do that. Here's your next question.

I, again, have no idea, but if I was going to guess,

I would probably go with Mount Elbrus.

OK, guys, can you shed any light on this one for us?

Your debate starts now.

First I need to know, where is K2?

-I think K2 is in the Himalayas.

-OK.

Let's go through all the countries

and then maybe that will help us in some way.

Let's start with Mont Blanc.

I'm assuming Switzerland.

-Am I getting that right, wrong?

-I think it's the French Alps.

-French Alps, OK.

-Mount Elbrus?

-I've never heard of Mount Elbrus.

And Mount McKinley?

Mount McKinley, I think, is in the Rockies,

-so I think that's in the States.

-OK.

-Shall we take K2 out, at least?

-K2 is really high.

-I think Mont Blanc is the tallest mountain in Europe.

-Yeah.

-OK.

It's just whether we think Mount Elbrus is also in Europe

or whether the Rockies beat the Alps. I don't know.

Well, seeing as Frankie went straight to Mount Elbrus, as did,

for some reason, I, I'm wondering if there's something in it.

-Last time we did the gut thing...

-Yeah.

-..it didn't work so well.

-OK.

-No, no.

-Um, oh, my goodness, all we know is it's NOT K2.

-Can we go with that answer?

-I think it's not K2.

I don't think it's Mont Blanc.

I think Mount McKinley's the tallest mountain in the States.

Fine, then let's stick with Mount Elbrus.

So, for me, it would be between Mont Blanc and Mount Elbrus.

Shall we do this? In which case, we think it is Mount Elbrus.

-Sorry, Frankie.

-It's perfectly OK.

OK, Frankie, our panel have agreed with you.

They believe that the lowest of these mountains is Mount Elbrus,

even though none of them have even heard of the mountain

-or know where it is.

-No.

I think I might actually go

against the panel's decision this time and go with Mont Blanc.

I'll probably regret it but let's see.

-You're changing your mind...

-Yes.

-..and you're going for Mont Blanc.

Oh, dear.

The correct answer is...

-It IS Mont Blanc!

-Well done!

APPLAUSE Is that a little dance there?

-Well done.

-Thank you.

-Well played. ANGELA:

-Good work!

-FRANKIE:

-Yes!

Mont Blanc is 4,807 metres.

It is the highest in the Alps

and Western Europe. Mount Elbrus is in Russia.

Over 5,600 metres, it's the highest in Europe.

Mount McKinley is now known as Denali in Alaska.

It's over 6,000 metres.

K2 is 8,600 metres,

the second highest mountain in the world behind Mount Everest.

-But great news for you, Frankie.

-Yay!

-We're up and running.

-£200 in the prize pot.

-Yay!

Let's see if we can keep it going.

Here's the final question in Round 1.

And looking at the faces of our panel,

I think one answer can describe what they currently are.

LAUGHTER

-Er...

-Do you know any of them?

-No, well, I know Clueless, I think.

That's probably the only one I know.

I've heard of Kiss Me Kate somewhere.

I feel like that could be a Shakespeare play.

Look, don't worry,

our panel are here to sort this out on your behalf.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, Kiss Me Kate is based on Taming Of The Shrew,

-so that one's out. She's The Man...

-What's that film?

-..Twelfth Night, maybe?

-What is She's The Man?

-She's The Man is...

I've seen it. It's like a teenagery thing.

For some reason, I think I've seen this with my kid.

Um, and that is definitely...

You have a lot of Shakespeare plays where girls dress up as boys,

-boys dress up as girls, so I'm pretty sure that one's out.

-Ah, OK.

My Own Private Idaho... What's that thing with Johnny Depp?

-I could be completely wrong.

-No, it's River Phoenix.

-River Phoenix.

-River Phoenix and another guy.

-Right.

-And it rings a bell that it's Shakespeare.

-Yes, it does, it does.

-I think Clueless is, no?

-No.

-No, I think Clueless is Jane Austen.

-Oh, yes you're right!

-Is that right?

-Is it Sense And Sensibility or something like that?

-Um...

I would be more confident about Clueless

if I remembered what My Own Private Idaho was.

I know it's a very close relationship between two young men.

-Yeah.

-And they do a lot of travelling.

OK, so we can discount the top two. Two done.

-It's My Own Private Idaho or Clueless.

-It's got to be Clueless.

You think Clueless is more Jane Austen.

-I think Clueless is Jane Austen.

-I think you're right.

So, let's go with Clueless as the answer.

I think that's the right thing to do.

-What do you think?

-Yeah.

-Yes?

All right, we are very confident that it is Clueless.

I wouldn't say "very", but go for it.

LAUGHTER

-OK, Frankie, you went against the panel last time.

-Yes.

They are suggesting Clueless this time. What do you think?

Clueless is definitely...

I think Clueless is the one I'm swaying towards

cos, as they were talking about She's The Man,

I actually remembered I have seen that film.

I remember that being a Shakespeare-based film,

so I think I'm going to go with the panel

-on this one and go with Clueless.

-OK, we're all back in agreement.

Is Clueless the correct answer for £200?

It is! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Ah!

-Clueless did star Alicia Silverstone.

-It is based on Jane Austen's Emma.

-Emma!

The 1953 film Kiss Me Kate is based on The Taming Of The Shrew.

She's The Man starred Channing Tatum and Vinnie Jones.

It is based on Twelfth Night.

My Own Private Idaho starred River Phoenix, you were right,

and Keanu Reeves.

It is based on the Shakespearean play Henry IV, Parts I and II.

-Well done, Frankie, another £200 in the prize pot.

-Thank you.

At the end of Round 1, you're on £400.

-Yay!

-Yay!

-APPLAUSE

So, this is the moment, Frankie,

where we cast our gaze on the panel

and you give me your honest opinion about how they're doing.

I think they're doing fabulously well.

Anybody in particular standing out for you there?

I think, at the moment, Matt.

I think we need to work a bit harder,

otherwise your mermaid tail is going to be a sleeping bag painted silver.

-Yes!

-We want to do better than that for you, Frankie.

-We do.

-We do.

OK, make sure and pay close attention to what they say,

as you can only choose one of them in today's Final Debate.

So, let's see how they cope with pictures. It's time for Round 2.

OK, Frankie, Round 2 is our picture round.

You must place three pictures in the correct order.

There are three questions in this round,

each correct answer worth £300. Here we go.

Kiwi seems really watery,

so you'd think that would have less calories.

It's between kiwi and avocado.

I don't really know anything about bananas,

to be honest with you, so, yeah, I guess I'll see what the panel think.

OK, panel, can we sort this out? Your debate starts now.

So...avocado, high in fat, low in sugar,

-but I would think quite calorie dense.

-Definitely.

You would think so, but cos of the fatty greasiness of it,

you naturally think that, whereas a kiwi fruit's very sweet.

-High in sugar but low in...

-Calories, for sure.

We're looking at calories. Calories can be sugary or they can be fatty.

-Yeah.

-They can be either, can't they,

so just because it's a greasy, fatty-feeling thing,

it doesn't necessarily mean it's got the most calories.

-No, but you make avocado oil, right?

-Yeah.

Which would mean the calorie content itself would also be quite high up.

-That's the fat though.

-Yeah, but fats have...

-But fats are calorie dense.

-Yeah, but kiwi fruit is sweet.

-It is sweet but...

-But also a lot of water in it.

-Yeah.

-Banana, high in sugar, high in starch.

-Yes.

-But not as high in calories as avocado.

-Full of potassium.

-Yeah.

-Makes you happy.

-OK, so...

-I would go kiwi, banana, avocado.

-That's where I would go.

-That's what I would do as well.

OK, our answer is kiwi, banana and avocado.

Now, any sense in there, Frankie?

The panel seem so confident

that they have convinced me, I think,

so I'm going to go with the panel, despite what I thought.

That's very diplomatic of you. LAUGHTER

You were going to say, "I'm going with the panel,

"despite my better judgement."

Is that not what you were going to say there?

OK, Frankie, here we go.

For £300, is that the correct order?

It IS the correct order, well done. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-I love you guys!

-We love you, Frankie!

-Yes, Frankie!

-We love you more!

LAUGHTER

Very well done.

Avocado has around 190 calories per 100g,

banana has around

80 to 95 calories per 100g,

and kiwi fruit, the lowest - 48 calories per 100g.

But the good news is it's another £300 into the prize pot,

-taking you up to £700, Frankie.

-Come on, Frankie!

APPLAUSE

OK, let's have a look at our second question in the picture round.

Er, I have no idea.

I'm really hoping the panel know.

Please know.

OK, guys, let's see if you can shed any light on this.

Your debate starts now.

I think we can all agree

he's got a type.

LAUGHTER

Ladies in hats. That was his thing, wasn't it?

All of the same name. It's easier for the paperwork.

-Yes!

-Absolutely.

Well, I, again, thanks to my kids,

I've been studying this with my daughter and I had to help her

to learn the names in order and I remember the Catherines,

alphabetically, is how he married them.

I think it was Aragon, Howard and Parr, in that order.

I think you're absolutely right.

-Divorced, beheaded, died...

-Right.

-..divorced, beheaded, survived.

-Right.

-And we have got divorced....

-Divorced.

-There, I think.

-Yeah.

-Then we've got....

-Beheaded.

-She was number five. She was beheaded.

-Mm-hmm.

I think she was the second one to be beheaded, after Anne Boleyn.

-And then Parr survived.

-Right.

-Because Jane Seymour was the one that died.

-That's right.

-So, I think that's right.

-Yeah, I would definitely go with that.

Aragon, Howard, Parr. What do you reckon?

-Absolutely.

-Yeah?

LAUGHTER

-I, I support you 100%.

-Brilliant.

So, we're going with Katherine of Aragon,

Catherine Howard and Katherine Parr.

So, we have gone for Aragon, Howard and Parr.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to go with.

OK, you're agreeing with the panel.

So, for £300, is that the correct order?

-It is!

-Yes!

APPLAUSE Well done, panel.

Well done, Frankie.

Katherine of Aragon was the first wife of Henry VIII.

Henry took the throne at the age of 17

and he married Katherine of Aragon six weeks later.

She was the first one he divorced.

Catherine Howard was the fifth wife of Henry VIII.

She was the second wife he beheaded.

Katherine Parr was the sixth wife of Henry VIII. She outlived Henry.

-Good news for you, Frankie.

-Yeah.

-Another £300 in the prize pot,

taking you up to £1,000.

-Yes, amazing!

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-We're well on the way to a mermaid tale. ANGELA:

-Whoo!

-We are.

-Here comes your next question.

I'm hoping Nina will know this one because, um, homework.

You're hoping homework club is going...

I'm hoping homework club, yeah, will...

-Will pull us out of another hole.

-Hopefully.

-Well, let's see.

Panel, your debate starts now.

For clarity, a prime number is...

Something that's not divisible, apart from by 1 and itself. So...

-So, it can't end in an even number.

-It can't end in 8.

-Yeah.

-And it can't end in 5.

-Yeah.

-Cos anything that ends in 5 must be divisible by 5.

-Is divisible by 5.

-So, it must end in 7.

-OK, let's put 7 there for a second.

-Yeah.

-So, it's either got to be 587 or it's got to be 857.

-857.

One of these is going to be divisible by something else...

..or they're both prime numbers and we have to find the biggest one.

Well, if we have to find the biggest one, shall we go with 857?

-857, that gives you...

-I'm trying to do it in my head.

830 is divisible by 9.

-Because sevens don't fit into very much.

-No.

3 x 9 gives you 27.

-That's how you end up with the 7 on the end.

-Yeah.

Otherwise you've got prime numbers...

37's a prime number, 17 is a prime number, 7's a prime number.

I think that's right.

OK, let's do that then. Let's do 857. Shall we just do that?

So, because our head hurts, we're going with 857.

Did any of that make any sense?

No, no, numbers were just flying everywhere and, yeah...

What do you think?

I'm going to go with 587 cos I have no idea

and I'm going to completely... I'm going to guess.

OK, so you're guessing. You're going against the panel.

The panel have gone for 857. You're going to swap them round.

You're going to go for 587.

-We're keeping our fingers crossed for you.

-Oh...

587. Is that the correct order for £300?

-Oh!

-It's the wrong order.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

-Oh!

-Oh, babe, so sorry.

-It was 857.

-Oh! Gutted.

-Almost.

A prime number is a whole number

greater than 1 that is divisible only by itself and 1.

The only other prime that can be made from these numbers is 587.

-OK.

-Frankie, you were so close on that one,

but you didn't get anything for it.

It means, at the end of Round 2, you still have £1,000.

APPLAUSE

OK, it's time for Round 3.

All right, Frankie, in Round 3, you'll face questions

that contain a statement relating to a person, a place or a thing.

Only one of those statements is correct.

You have to tell us which one it is. Three questions in this round.

Because it's the final round,

we put the cash up to £500 for each correct answer,

so best of luck. Here it comes.

I feel like a Formula One driver from Argentina

might have won before. That's a tough one again.

-I feel it's time to hear from the panel.

-It is definitely time.

It's definitely time. Panel, let's sort this out.

Your debate starts now.

Er, Ayrton Senna - where's he from?

-Senna was Brazilian.

-Brazilian, not Argentinian.

But I think, in the '50s,

there was a Formula One driver

called Juan Manuel Fangio.

-Great name!

-Oh, I love him!

-The best!

And people say he's the best driver of all time

and I think he won it in a bright red Ferrari.

-I think.

-OK. All right.

-Possibly.

Well, and then the bottom one, like quite obscure,

but somewhere in the Caribbean, there is a little pocket of people

who speak like Irish people from the west of Cork.

-Really?

-So, I feel like that's quite random, therefore true.

Why would they find themselves in Patagonia?

Well, why not? Have YOU been?

The only thing I can think is

that there is a mining connection of some sort.

Is Patagonia famous for mining?

The equator is... That should be the easiest thing.

It's in the middle and it goes around, so...

-But that's way north, isn't it?

-Exactly.

The equator goes through Ecuador. That's why it's called Ecuador.

-Yeah.

-And then it goes... The other side's, what, Colombia?

-I think Argentina's way south of that.

-So do I.

It goes all down to the tip to Tierra del Fuego

-right at the bottom.

-It does.

We can rule out the equator passing through it

cos it's too far south.

I'm pretty sure Fangio won in the '50s.

Then it's got to be a dialect of Welsh.

That seems to make most sense.

Um, right, well, in that case,

we think the dialect of Welsh is spoken in the Patagonian region.

So, what are you thinking then?

Yeah, I think I'll go with C as well. I'll go with the panel.

OK, you're going with the panel.

A dialect of Welsh is spoken in the Patagonian region.

For £500, is that the correct statement?

It is! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Come on! Nice!

-Whoo!

-Nice!

-Very well done.

Would you believe it,

in the 1860s, a group of Welsh immigrants settled

in Patagonia in the south of Argentina.

Juan Manuel Fangio won the Drivers' Championship

five times in the 1950s.

The northernmost part of Argentina is 1,500 miles south of the equator.

None of that matters though.

What does is that we put another £500 in the prize pot.

Frankie, you're up to £1,500.

-Yes, come on!

-Come on, Frankie!

APPLAUSE

Still a grand up for grabs.

-Wahey!

-Here comes your next question.

I feel like I've heard B somewhere before.

-C is also ringing a bell somewhere.

-OK.

Panel, let's see if you can help us out here. Your debate starts now.

Beethoven... Actually, I'm probably going to get this wrong.

-Did he drink as much as Mozart?

-They all did.

If he drank loads, then I can imagine he would have got

so incredibly drunk, lost his way,

looked like a tramp and got thrown in jail.

-He had an ear trumpet.

-Right.

-He was virtually deaf.

-Right.

What do you mean, an ear trumpet? Like a rugby player?

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-No, that's a cauliflower!

-When was the last time you saw a rugby player

with a trumpet in his ear?

No, I thought it was like a cauliflower ear,

-but a trumpet instead.

-Before they had...

Genuinely, before they had hearing aids, electronic hearing aids,

you used to hold a trumpet into your ear.

I think I've seen Beethoven's ear trumpet.

-What has that got to do with anything?

-That's what I'm wondering.

I'm just wondering if he didn't hear what the policeman said correctly.

LAUGHTER

-Wait, wait, did Wagner come before Beethoven?

-No.

-He didn't.

-This is my problem with the middle one.

-Right, OK.

Where would he have been buried if he was?

Like, an unmarked grave suggests that either he didn't have

the money to be buried in a place where there was,

you know, a stone and the big palaver.

-And did he not die penniless?

-Well, he didn't finish his last symphony.

Yeah, but wasn't his work only really recognised after the fact?

Mozart was buried in an unmarked grave.

That's what was making me think it's not him.

I still think it's number one.

I think he was arrested and thrown in jail as a tramp.

For me, it's top or bottom, but...

-OK, in which case...

-I'd say one.

I think one as well. What do you think?

-Yeah.

-But I'm not totally confident with the first one.

We'll go with "He was arrested and thrown in jail as a tramp".

We have stumbled across "He was arrested

-"and thrown into jail as a tramp".

-OK.

I'm going to go with the panel again and hope that they are correct.

OK, you're going with the panel. You're saying A.

For £500, is that the correct statement?

It's the correct answer! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Unbelievable!

-I do not know how we did that!

-No way!

In 1820, Beethoven had become lost and hungry

and was gazing into people's windows.

He was arrested by a policeman who mistook him for a tramp

and threw him in jail.

-There is no mention of a trumpet...

-Of a trumpet.

-..on the arrest sheet.

-Of a trumpet.

-I've seen that trumpet! It exists.

-LAUGHTER

You were right, Matt, Mozart was buried in a unmarked grave.

-You're doing really well, Frankie.

-Thank you.

It's another £500 in the prize pot.

-You are up to £2,000.

-Yes!

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Let's see if we can get it up to £2,500.

Here comes your final question in this round.

I feel like I've heard all of those before somewhere,

but I think the goldfish communicating by blinking

might be a myth.

-So, you're ruling out C.

-I think I'm ruling out C, yeah.

Let's see if our panel can sort it out. Panel, your debate starts now.

-Nemo's a clownfish, right?

-Yeah.

-Had a mum and a dad.

-What's your point?

I'm just saying they were gender assigned.

At no point in the film did it become a mum and a mum

-or a dad and a dad.

-OK, yes, I'm with you.

The most sensible one seems to be

"Catfish shed their scales annually", right?

That seems the most sensible one, but is it TOO simple?

-Has anybody ever noticed eyelids on a goldfish?

-Yeah, very animated.

-Yeah.

-No, that's in Disney!

-I know, but it's based on real life.

Under the sea, they've all got eyelashes!

Yeah, why would they have eyelashes, actually?

Why would they have eyelids?

Why would a fish...? Have you ever noticed a fish blink?

Oh, yeah, and actually, when they're on the plate,

and even when they're dead, their eyes are very wide open.

And, let's face it, what have they got to say to each other anyway

cos they forget everything straightaway?

-So, why bother communicating?

-What's going on? Where am I?

I think the blinking one is gone

because I have never seen lids on a fish.

-I've never seen fish lids.

-No.

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-That's gone.

-I think David Attenborough would be really upset

by this. I think he's crying in a corner.

It makes sense for a catfish to shed its scales annually.

Yeah, but more than once a year, no?

How often do any fish shed their scales?

You get parasites and things sticking to fish,

and so they want to get rid of the parasites

and annually would make sense.

There is some animal somewhere

or some creature somewhere that can change sex.

For some reason, I think I've seen some programme about it.

Zebra fish can actually change a lot.

-They can grow whole new fins and things.

-Right.

But I don't know about clownfish.

-Zebra fish maybe can change sex.

-You're sure Nemo's a clownfish?

-Definitely a clownfish.

-OK, right, we need to come up with an answer.

I think the most sensible one would be

"Catfish shed their scales annually".

-You're the mermaid, Frankie.

-LAUGHTER

-Um, yes, shall we go with that?

-Sure.

-Are you happy to go with that?

I really... Yeah, it's the only one that makes sense.

OK. We're going with "Catfish shed their scales annually".

So, with a bit of Disney logic thrown in there for you, Frankie,

our panel have gone for B.

Suddenly, I'm thinking I have heard

of clownfish changing their sex before,

but I don't know if that's absolutely ridiculous,

so I'm going to go with A,

for some unknown reason.

-OK.

-Yes.

-If this is right, it's another £500.

The correct statement is...

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I knew it! Well done, Frankie!

-Yay.

-Well done.

-Well done!

-You're a panel beater.

-Yes!

LAUGHTER

I've seen it in a documentary somewhere. Knew it!

-So, Matt, Nemo in Finding Nemo was a clownfish.

-Right.

He did have a mother and father

but that's just because the mother and father chose not to change sex.

-Ah!

-There you go.

Fish do not normally shed their scales

unless they have an infection or damage

and catfish don't generally have scales anyway.

-Goldfish cannot blink, as they don't have eyelids.

-Solid.

-Nice one, Frankie.

-I love the fact, Frankie,

that our panel are congratulating their lack of knowledge

while you managed to find the answer on your own.

-Yes.

-Yes.

-At the end of Round 3, the prize pot is up to £2,500.

Well done.

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-Wow!

OK, Frankie, it's time for the Final Debate,

where you will face just one question.

That question will have six possible answers.

-We need you to give us the three that are correct.

-OK.

As before, though, you are not alone,

as you will choose one of our fine panel to assist you.

You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the question

and then we're going to ask you for an answer.

So, based on their performances today,

who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

Will it be Matt, who knows everything

there is to know about Beethoven's trumpet?

Will it be Nina, in the middle, who can do your homework for you?

Or are you going to go for the luck of the Irish with Angela on the end?

I've absolutely loved Nina's logic on this,

especially with the homework,

-but I think I'm actually going to go with Matt.

-Yes!

Because general knowledge seems to be a very strong point.

OK, Matt, will you join us, as we play today's Final Debate?

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OK, Matt, there's no...

-You can't be standing there with your hands in your pocket.

-Sorry.

Come on! You've got to go here.

Frankie's chosen you for the Final Debate.

-I'm holding on to something precious.

-You are?

The dream of taking this all the way through to the end

-for Frankie and helping her buy a tail.

-Ah.

LAUGHTER

Look, it is the Final Debate, a lot of cash up for grabs.

We do wish you the best of luck.

There's two categories today, so here they come.

What do you fancy, Frankie, from these?

Um, I think I would actually like to go with food and drink.

What do you...?

You've got to go with whatever you feel strongest with.

-Yeah, I think food and drink.

-OK.

-Yes.

It's good to know, Frankie, that as someone who likes to sing,

you've gone against the music question.

-I love food too, come on.

-You love food.

-And I like drink.

-There you go.

We wish you the best of luck. £2,500 up for grabs.

Remember, we need three correct answers

for you to go home with the cash.

We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

Here comes your Final Debate question.

Um, OK.

Your time starts now.

-OK.

-Yeah.

-Shochu is a Japanese spirit.

-OK.

-That's no good.

-OK.

Lapsang Souchong - happy that's a tea?

-Yeah, I'm pretty happy that's a tea. Um...

-What else?

Matcha latte - that's a tea, I'm sure,

-cos matcha is green tea, isn't it?

-Yes.

-Lassi is definitely not. It's like a yoghurt drink.

-It's milk, yeah.

That leaves us between Keemun and Smoking Bishop.

-Now...

-20 seconds.

-OK.

-It's one of those two.

Keemun or Smoking Bishop.

Is Smoking Bishop a cheese? It's not, is it? That's Stinking Bishop.

-It could be Smoking Bishop.

-Oh...

-Which one are you leaning towards?

-Five seconds.

I'd go for Smoking Bishop,

just cos I think it's there to make us think it's the cheese.

Time up. Frankie, I need three answers, please.

We're going to go with Lapsang Souchong,

matcha latte and Smoking Bishop.

OK, if those are the three correct answers, you leave with £2,500.

If one of them is wrong, Frankie,

I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

Best of luck. Here we go, for £2,500.

First up, you said Lapsang Souchong.

Is Lapsang Souchong a tea?

It is. Well played. APPLAUSE

A large leafed tea. We are on the way.

You then said matcha latte.

Is matcha latte a tea, to keep us on track for £2,500?

It is! APPLAUSE

Matcha latte, a Japanese green tea. Two out of two.

-It's all down to this one.

-This is the one.

-Matt...

-No, don't, Patrick!

-..you said Smoking Bishop.

-Ooh...

-Frankie, you agreed.

-Yes.

-Yeah, you agreed!

-Yes, I agreed.

-LAUGHTER

For £2,500, is Smoking Bishop a tea?

-Oh!

-Sorry!

-That's all right.

-Frankie, I am so sorry.

Smoking Bishop - it's a mulled wine.

-Oh.

-Oh!

-Drunk by Ebenezer Scrooge.

-You could pretend it was tea.

-Yeah.

-You could pretend it was tea.

-The correct answer was...

-Keemun.

-Keemun.

-Yeah.

-A Chinese black tea.

-Frankie, I'm so, so sorry, but you played so well today.

-Thank you.

You didn't go home with the money,

but give it up one more time for Frankie. Thanks for playing.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

That is it for Debatable.

There's just enough time to thank our fantastic panel.

I hope you enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates. Goodbye.

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