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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today,

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one player must answer a series of tricky questions,

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to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

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But they're not on their own,

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as they'll have a panel of celebrities

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debating their way to the answers.

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Will they help, or will they hinder? Well, that's Debatable.

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So let's meet them. Chatting their way to the answers today,

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we have broadcaster Matt Allwright.

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We have actress and comedian Nina Wadia,

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and presenter Angela Scanlon.

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CHEERING

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It's a good panel.

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I'm very, very confident that we can get the job done here.

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Matt, of course, Watchdog,

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you are here just to oversee me and make sure things are done correctly.

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You put a foot out of line, Kielty, I'm on you.

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Is there a show called Rogue Hosts?

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Yes. Yes, there is definitely one in the making.

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Potentially that could be today.

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And of course Angela, One Show.

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-Yes.

-So what is your specialist subject today then?

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I chose the Spice Girls, actually...

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LAUGHTER

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..as my specialist subject.

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I did try to do it on Mastermind before,

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but it had already been chosen.

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Do you think this will help today?

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I think it's going to be incredibly useful.

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LAUGHTER

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So in the middle we have Nina.

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You are going to be holding this panel together.

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I can sense you are the authority.

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Yes, they will listen to everything I say, won't you?

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-We'll see.

-Yes, ma'am.

-Excellent.

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LAUGHTER

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OK, that's the panel.

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Let's meet today's contestant.

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It is Michael, from Kilkeel, in County Down!

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-How are you, sir?

-I'm good, how are you?

-Welcome to the show.

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Tell us a little bit about yourself,

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apart from the fact you live ten miles from where I was born.

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Yes, that's right. Well,

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I work in a factory that makes aircraft seats

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as a manufacturing engineer.

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So you're from Kilkeel in County Down.

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That's right. Your name is Sloan.

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-Yes.

-What Sloans would you be?

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-Greencastle.

-You're going to have to excuse us a little sec here,

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as we have an Irish mother,

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because if I go home and say I was talking to a Sloan from County Down

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and I don't identify who your grandparents are,

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my mother is going to be very upset.

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So what Sloans would you be, Michael?

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I'm a member of the Greencastle Sloans.

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The Greencastle Sloans, they're just out by Cranfield.

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-Yes, that's right.

-You play a bit of football against the village

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-that I'm from.

-Yes, that's right.

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We came across each other - not me and you -

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but our teams came across each other in underage football.

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Yes, because you're a much younger man than I am.

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-Yes, that's right.

-LAUGHTER

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Am I?

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That was your opportunity, Michael, to say, "No, Paddy."

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No, of course not.

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OK, Michael, best of luck.

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-Thank you very much.

-Let's play Debatable.

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Here's round one.

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OK, Michael, round one is multiple choice.

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Each question has four possible answers.

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Only one of those is correct.

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Four questions in this round.

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Each correct answer is worth £200.

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-Ready to go?

-Yes.

-OK, here we go.

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It's a flawless Italian accent I've done for you, Michael!

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LAUGHTER

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Yes. A bit of Irish in there.

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A wee bit of Irish in there.

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-First thoughts on this.

-Espresso, I would think it means quick,

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rather than stained, would be just what I would guess.

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I think I'm going to look forward

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to what the panel has to say on this one.

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Don't worry, it is a sophisticated panel

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and they will sort this out very quickly.

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Panel, your debate starts now.

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-I've got to tell you I am not a coffee drinker.

-I am.

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Oh, you are. Fantastic.

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-Do you drink coffee?

-I love coffee.

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-OK.

-If we go through those one by one, is that our best way to do it?

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-Yes.

-Espresso, what do we think that means?

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Doesn't it mean either quick, as Michael was saying, or expressed,

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like it's been pressed really hard to make it?

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Doesn't feel like stained.

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So you're saying "expresso", an espresso.

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I think that's just a mispronunciation

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of the word espresso.

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Yeah, but it's got to be something like the same thing.

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But if you press something, if you presso it,

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you might stain something.

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To be honest I could say any of these with a good Italian accent and

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it would sound like a stain.

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So cappuccino comes from Capuchin monks.

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-OK.

-That I think I know.

-Right...

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And that's why, because it's got a sort of white top and a dark bottom.

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That's like a Capuchin monkey.

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Like a Guinness?

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Like a Guinness, exactly the same as a Guinness.

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I'm glad you're talking in terms that Michael will understand!

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OK, so you're saying cappuccino is not it?

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I think espresso and cappuccino are out.

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Maybe it's macchiato, because

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a macchiato is an espresso with a foamy milk.

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So maybe the milk is stained with the espresso?

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-Ah...

-So it kind of looks like...

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The other thing I would say is ato, the end of macchiato,

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is the past participle in Italian.

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Which means that would work with stained.

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I'm happy to go with that.

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Right, so we have decided to go for macchiato because of the grammar,

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meaning it would probably work well with the word stained.

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-MICHAEL:

-I always like learning new facts.

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Capuchin monks invented cappuccino.

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Good.

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I like the ato part, meaning past tense, stained.

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So, with that, yeah, I'm going to agree with the panel.

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-Macchiato.

-Michael, just so you know, with our panel,

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they may not have given you facts,

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they may just have given you opinions.

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-I trust them.

-You trust the panel!

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-OK, you're saying...

-Macchiato.

-Macchiato.

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For £200, to get us up and running,

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the correct answer is...

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-Yes!

-Macchiato, well done!

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Very well done.

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Very well done, panel.

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Macchiato is two shots of espresso

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with just a small amount of steamed milk and that stains the espresso.

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Oh, well done.

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-Spot on.

-And the monks?

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The monks. That was right as well.

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-Amazing.

-Cappuccino is so named because the colour resembles that of

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the Capuchin monks' habit.

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Well done, Michael, you're off to a great start -

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£200, straight into the prize pot. CHEERING

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Here comes your next question.

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For some reason, Richard III is sticking out to me.

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Was it Richard III the Shakespeare play was named after?

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I'm not entirely sure.

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I think it was, like, a tragedy, as well.

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I'm kind of just drawing towards Richard III,

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but with no solid evidence for it.

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Let's see if our panel continues the tragedy,

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or if they manage to sort this out.

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-Your debate starts now.

-OK, Edward II was, I think,

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the king that fought the Scots and was sent home again.

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So, we're talking about 1300s, 1400s?

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So I don't think he died.

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Well, he died, obviously.

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-He's dead.

-LAUGHTER

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He died.

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John was Magna Carta, so that was early.

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-John was what?

-Magna Carta.

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-He was 1215.

-Henry VII, Richard III.

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-Those are the two.

-Well, Henry VII came after a Richard III.

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-But Henry VIII was his son.

-Right.

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-So, if he died in battle...

-Yes.

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..then surely whoever beat him would have been the next king?

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Richard III was beaten by Henry VII in battle,

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and then they found him under a car park.

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I remember that!

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I'm happy to go with that.

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He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

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I'm out here. I got the last one right, so I feel...

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Don't hold me responsible, Michael, if it goes horribly wrong.

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We'll just blame Michael, because it was his instinct as well.

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So, going with the panel, with this history expert, here, Matt.

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And generally, with our instinct,

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we think it is Richard III who died in battle, the last English king.

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So, Michael, we have Angela looking slightly puzzled over Magna Carta.

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She thought it was an ice cream, like I did.

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I have to say.

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However, our history and royal expert Matt,

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quite a lot of knowledge there?

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Yes, a lot. I'm going to agree with the panel.

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-Yeah, Richard III.

-For another £200, the correct answer is...

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-Yes!

-It is Richard III.

-Well done, Matt.

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Very well played, very well played, Matt.

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What a history lesson that was.

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Richard III died in the Battle of Bosworth Field.

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-The year, Matt?

-1415.

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1485.

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After his body was discovered in a Leicester car park,

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detailed scans of the King's bones show that he sustained several

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wounds at or around the time of his death,

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which is normally the time that, that wounds are sustained.

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LAUGHTER

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In 2013, this reconstruction of his face was made.

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Actually, that looks like Matt with a wig on.

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That could be me. It could be me, after a good shave.

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The cause of Edward II's death remains unclear, however,

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one popular theory is that he died after having a red-hot poker

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inserted up his backside.

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What a stag weekend that was. LAUGHTER

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But well played, Michael. Another 200 quid in the prize pot.

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Yes, come on.

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Ticking along very nicely.

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-Yes, we are.

-Here's your next question.

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I know the song.

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I don't think it was the type of

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genre that Mick Jagger would sing in.

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Maybe the same goes for Robert Plant.

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They were more rock. Whereas You're So Vain is a bit more of a pop song.

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Which would lead me more towards Rod Stewart.

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I'm not entirely sure who Warren Beatty is, actually.

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OK, you're leaning towards Rod Stewart.

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Let's see what our panel make of this. Your debate starts now.

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Well, Warren Beatty, just so you know, is a very famous actor.

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Very good-looking man, incredibly vain.

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Had relationships with every single woman in Hollywood for a long period

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of time. This song was written about him.

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Which makes me think he might have actually done something as

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ridiculous as the backing vocals on that song.

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Almost like a cameo?

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I agree with you, I think the song is about Warren Beatty.

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But it's such a nasty song.

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It's not really a nasty song.

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It's quite jolly.

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She says he's like a hot guy, who has his hat tipped.

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-It's kind of not a horrible song, I think.

-It's a famously

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vitriolic song. I just don't think he'd be part of it.

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-Women look at the song differently, don't they?

-Totally.

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We look at it very differently.

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Maybe we need to sing the song through,

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from the beginning to the end?

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I think that would be a very good idea!

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ALL: # You walked into the party

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-# Like you were walking onto a yacht

-Are we actually doing this?

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# Your hat strategically dipped below one eye

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# And your scarf it was apricot

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# You had one eye on the mirror

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# As you watched yourself go by... #

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This is the crucial bit cos we're coming up to the backing bit.

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# And all the girls thought that they'd be your partner

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# They'd be your partner

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# And you're so vain

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# You're so vain! #

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Backing vocal! That's the backing vocal!

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# This song is about you... #

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-Rod Stewart.

-"You're so vain."

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It's high. It can't be Stewart.

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But we'd know if it was him.

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He has such a distinctive voice,

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-Rod Stewart, you'd know that voice if you heard it.

-But so have...

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I think it's got to be Jagger or Robert Plant.

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Because it's a higher vocal.

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-My instinct is Robert Plant, I don't know why.

-OK.

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-I'm torn between Robert Plant and Warren Beatty.

-I'd say Jagger.

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-Jagger?

-Yeah, I'd say Jagger,

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because it's a very high backing vocal.

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-That's how he sings.

-We don't have an answer.

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Oh, I know you don't have an answer.

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-It was fun getting there.

-It was.

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I tell you what, I'll take myself out of the equation,

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but I think I'll go with Matt on this one.

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Sorry. So, we think Mick Jagger...

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-You think, I don't.

-..did the backing vocals for Carly Simon's hit

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You're So Vain.

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OK. Well, I really enjoyed that rendition.

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LAUGHTER

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It was quite good. It actually reminded me,

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I was initially leaning towards Rod Stewart.

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But I was reminded of what that backing vocal was,

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which leans me towards Mick Jagger,

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especially with the high-pitched vocal as well.

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OK, you're saying Mick Jagger, you're agreeing with the panel.

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To keep us going on a 100% record for three out of three,

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the correct answer is...

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-Yes!

-Mick Jagger!

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Well done. Well done.

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Well done.

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He actually sings the backing vocals on the choruses from the second

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chorus onwards. And it goes something like this...

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MUSIC: You're So Vain by Carly Simon

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# You're so vain

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# You probably think this song is about you

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-# You're so vain

-So-o vain!

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# I bet you think this song is about you

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# Don't you? Don't you? #

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-You can really hear it.

-It is unmistakably...

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Clearly Mick Jagger. Why didn't you play that before?

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-Would have been easier.

-So much easier.

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Well, there's been a lot of speculation

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over 40 years about who the song was written about.

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-Carly has confirmed that the second verse is about the actor.

-Oh.

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But the rest of the song could be about somebody else.

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Mick Jagger?!

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That's another 200 quid into the prize pot.

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Three out of three, you're up to 600 quid, Michael.

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And well played, panel.

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OK, here's the final question of round one.

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I know that Admiral is pretty equal to a general, is what I

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would believe. Which is why I would guess Major-General.

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OK, you're thinking Major-General?

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Let's hand this over to the panel.

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I'm sure they can sort it out for you. The debate starts now.

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Right. I'm actually going to go with Michael, here.

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I think it's Major-General.

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The reason being, the clue with rear in the title.

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I don't know anything about the Army.

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I'm guessing the words that are front of me.

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Second Lieutenant would make sense, because the second-in-command,

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as I assumed the Rear Admiral would be to the Admiral.

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I know nothing!

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LAUGHTER

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Lieutenant is one of the first officer roles you get.

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I think Second Lieutenant is one of the most junior roles you can get.

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It's got to be one of the two on the left, there.

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Either Field Marshal... Field Marshal is one up from a general.

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I think Major-General is one down from a general.

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Where does Admiral fall into all this?

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-Generally?

-If you work on the basis that Admiral Lord Nelson was in

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-charge of the entire navy...

-Yeah.

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Rear-Admiral, I would imagine that is one down from that.

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So, Major-General feels right to me.

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But honestly, I wouldn't put my house on it.

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If Field Marshal is the top ranking on that board...

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Yeah, Field Marshal Montgomery.

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From my knowledge it goes Field Marshal, Major-General, Brigadier,

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Second Lieutenant, from those four there.

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Well, you sound like you know what you're talking about.

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-I really don't.

-I think we know who you're going to pick for the final!

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LAUGHTER

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OK. What are you going for, Angela, what do you reckon?

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I mean, I've got nothing. You've got nothing, either,

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but you're talking about it.

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-That's confusing!

-LAUGHTER

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I feel like sometimes a little bit of information is a dangerous thing.

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The most dangerous thing is to talk convincingly about something about

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which you know nothing at all.

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But I'm an actor, that's what I do!

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I'd go Major-General.

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-All right.

-Well, I think it's Field Marshal, if it's any consolation.

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You could be right, you could be right.

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Before we all fall apart, we are going for

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Major-General as our answer to the equivalent in the Royal Navy

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to Rear-Admiral.

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-MICHAEL:

-I thought Major-General or Field Marshal.

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So it will be a bit of a guess between that.

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I'm going to guess that it's lower and go with my original thought,

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with Major-General.

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To keep your 100% record, and get us up to £800,

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the correct answer is...

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CHEERING

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Very well done.

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I'd like to just say something at this point.

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I feel like my role is to play

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devil's advocate and suggest something else,

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-to reinforce your positive answer.

-And that is working well.

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I think it's going all right.

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-Sounds good.

-There you go, well played.

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Field Marshal is the highest rank in the Army.

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It is the equivalent of the Royal Navy's Admiral of the Fleet.

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A Brigadier's equivalent naval rank is a Commodore,

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who had a hit with...?

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-Three Times A Lady.

-There you go.

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Well played. That's another £200 into the prize pot.

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At the end of round one, it's 100%, four out of four, £800.

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Well done!

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OK, Michael. How do you think the panel is doing so far?

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Very helpful, so far.

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It's a good mixture of knowledge in there.

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Anyone standing out for you at the moment?

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Matt's knowledge has been very helpful, yes.

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I'm sure as the rounds go on we'll see the rest of the members

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of the panel helping out as well.

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Very diplomatic.

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-Right, I'm leaving!

-Just waiting for that Spice Girls question.

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-Come on!

-OK, let's see how they cope with pictures.

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It is time for round two.

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OK, Michael. Round two is our picture round.

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You must place three pictures in the correct order.

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There are three questions in this round.

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The money goes up to £300 for each correct answer.

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Here's your first question of round two.

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I think they're actually pretty tightly packed within the year.

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Obviously Valentine's Day is the 14th of February.

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St Patrick's Day is the 17th of March.

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I have a feeling that Burns Night is at the beginning of the year,

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but I'm not entirely sure.

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Don't worry, that's what our panel is here for.

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Your debate starts now.

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So... We know these two, yeah?

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Why is there bread rolls on your picture?

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-That's not bread rolls, that's haggis!

-Oh!

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LAUGHTER

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-Seriously?

-I thought it was bread and hummus.

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You've changed. You are so middle-class right now.

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OK, so I play in a ceilidh band.

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-You don't!

-I do.

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-Play what?

-I play the guitar in a ceilidh band.

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-What kind of ceilidh band?

-A Scottish ceilidh band.

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-Amazing.

-And every year we play Burns Night.

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-And when is it?

-Last year, I played a Burns Night in Barcelona,

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and it's always the end of January.

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-Yes.

-So I think that feels right to me.

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That is very right, in that case.

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A bit of everything. I play Scottish, you are Irish,

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-and you're lovely.

-Aw!

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So that's all three covered.

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I'm Irish, and I like to think, lovely too. But anyway...

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So, we think this is the order to go in.

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Burns Night, Valentine's Day and then St Patrick's Day.

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-MICHAEL:

-Yes, I'm going to go with the original answer.

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-As it stands.

-As it stands?

-Yep.

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For £300, is that the correct order?

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It is! Well done. CHEERING

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Very well played. Burns Night on the 25th of January.

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Valentine's Day, 14th of February,

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and St Patrick's Day is on the 17th of March.

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Angela, of course, who celebrates Burns Night in her house

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with a little bit of hummus, a few dips.

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Elderflower and prosecco.

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Bit of prosecco. You've changed!

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Very well done, that's £300 into the prize pot.

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You're going so well here.

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100% record, you're up to £1,100.

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CHEERING

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Let's have a look at the second question in this round.

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Here it comes.

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Well, I know Jurassic Park was definitely before

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Saving Private Ryan.

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I can remember going to watch Jurassic Park when I was very young,

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eight years old. The Color Purple, I have not seen.

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To me, it seems like a recent one.

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-I'm not familiar with it.

-Don't worry, Michael.

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What you actually need is someone on the panel who is one of our most

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loved and respected actors, who could possibly sort that out.

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So, panel, your debate starts now.

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Well, I'd love to start off with The Color Purple.

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Kick-started Oprah Winfrey's career.

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She won an Oscar for it.

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She did, yes.

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It was probably one of his first ever huge movies,

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so I think that would be the very first one of that lot of films.

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For me, the order is quite apparent.

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It's The Color Purple, Jurassic Park and then Saving Private Ryan.

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That's definitely last.

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I think if you two swap over and I stick with Jurassic in the middle.

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I listened to a podcast recently, The Making Of Oprah,

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-and it happened very early on in her career.

-Yes.

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It was, like, late...

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-Late '80s?

-Yes, late '80s.

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Right, so that's the early '90s.

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Jurassic Park is early '90s.

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I'd say that's early 2000s.

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I interviewed Steven Spielberg last year at the Baftas.

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I did the red carpet, and Michael Fassbender was next.

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So, I was mildly distracted and ready.

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And so...this lovely gentleman, in a coat,

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it was freezing, was standing there.

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And I thought, "Aww,

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"I'll just have a chat with this man."

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I was, "Like, how are you doing?

0:23:280:23:30

"Is this your first time to the Baftas?"

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And then I get this note in my ear,

0:23:330:23:35

"Steven's up for an award".

0:23:350:23:36

I was, like, "Steven, what?!"

0:23:360:23:39

So, he was really amused,

0:23:390:23:42

because most people are so in awe of him that he was,

0:23:420:23:46

"Who is this bird who doesn't know who I am, clearly?"

0:23:460:23:50

But we had a lovely chat.

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-Wow.

-Michael Fassbender had a lot to live up to.

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-And did he?

-Yes.

-Good.

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I think we've got this right, with any luck.

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So we're going to go with The Color Purple, then Jurassic Park,

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and then Saving Private Ryan.

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I'm sure about Jurassic Park and Saving Private Ryan.

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So I'm going to trust the panel on The Color Purple and go with

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The Color Purple, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan.

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For £300, is that the correct order?

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-It is.

-Well done.

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Well played, panel. The Color Purple was released in 1985.

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It was nominated for 11 Oscars but didn't win a single one.

0:24:370:24:41

What?! Did Oprah not win?

0:24:410:24:43

Oprah was nominated, but she didn't win.

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Jurassic Park was released in 1993.

0:24:450:24:47

Saving Private Ryan was released in 1998.

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In 2006, Tom Hanks was made an honorary member

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of the US Army Rangers Hall of Fame,

0:24:550:24:58

largely for his portrayal of Captain John Miller in

0:24:580:25:01

Saving Private Ryan. He's also a man that you should never travel with.

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Pretty much every film he's ever ended up in

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has been a travel disaster. LAUGHTER

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If you want to end up on a desert island,

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landing on a plane in the Hudson,

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being hijacked by Somalian pirates or ending up dead on a bridge in

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World War II, don't travel with Tom Hanks.

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It is, however, another £300 into the prize pot.

0:25:240:25:27

-You're doing so, so well.

-Wow.

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£1,400 so far.

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OK, Michael, here comes your final question of round two.

0:25:350:25:38

Put these animals in order of their average weight when fully grown,

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starting with the lightest.

0:25:440:25:46

My initial guess for the lightest would be the reindeer.

0:25:530:25:56

I'm going to assume the walrus is the heaviest.

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OK, that's your first thought.

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Panel, let's see if we can sort this out for Michael.

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Your debate starts now.

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So, Michael thinks the walrus is the heaviest?

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I think it's worth noting that a walrus...

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There's a lot of fat on a walrus.

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And pound for pound, muscle weighs more than fat.

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He might have a lot of mass, but it might not weigh that much.

0:26:140:26:17

I think the antlers on a reindeer...

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Have you ever seen those things mounted?

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-On a wall?

-How many screws does it take?

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What fixings have we got?

0:26:250:26:27

This is the most bizarre logic.

0:26:270:26:29

If this had been a moose up here, I would definitely have said no,

0:26:290:26:33

the moose would win outright.

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But a reindeer, I would think that would be the lightest.

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I think it's between the polar bear and the walrus.

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Here's what I would say, the polar bear, to keep itself warm,

0:26:400:26:43

-has lots of fluff.

-Fluff?!

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It's fur that's heavy, though.

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But it's not as heavy as the fat of a walrus.

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The walrus has got no fluff to keep itself warm.

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Therefore, if it's spending all its time in the water, I'd go walrus.

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I think, whatever happens, I think...

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I think reindeer is lightest.

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Think of the antlers, lads.

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-I'm just saying.

-It's not an elk.

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-It's up to you.

-It's not an elk, it's a reindeer.

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OK. If it was a moose or something, maybe.

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A reindeer is not that big.

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If you had to choose, what would be your order?

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I think this would be my order.

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-What would you say?

-I would probably,

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if you are really sure that's not in the running,

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which I'm not convinced,

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I would swap them.

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I'm going with my gut and I'm sticking with this order,

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-if that's OK. Yes?

-Cool.

-Right.

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So we are going for reindeer as the lightest,

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the polar bear and then the walrus as the heaviest.

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So, disagreement once again amongst the panel, Michael.

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Matt, of course, bringing his science to it.

0:27:400:27:42

What does the fluff of a polar bear weigh?

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That is the question.

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I'm going to go with reindeer, polar bear, walrus.

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So, you originally thought reindeer, polar bear, walrus.

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Angela, not quite sure on this.

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-For a change!

-For £300, is that the correct order?

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-Yes!

-It is the correct order.

-Well done.

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Again, my role...

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Just throwing something in there, it's really working.

0:28:180:28:20

We have to really examine it, it's important.

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A reindeer weighs about 50st.

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So, Santa's nine reindeers would weigh a total of three tonnes,

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plus the sleigh, plus Santa, who is not a small man himself.

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People really need to reinforce their roofs.

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A polar bear weighs about 1,600 pounds, which is 113st.

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A walrus weighs around 220st.

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-That's one and a half tonnes.

-Wow.

0:28:500:28:52

Well worked out, panel.

0:28:520:28:54

The 100% record still stands.

0:28:540:28:56

Michael, you're doing ever so well.

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You're up to £1,700 at the end of round two.

0:28:580:29:00

OK, Michael. Still £1,500 up for grabs as we play round three.

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OK, Michael. In this round, you'll face questions that contain

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a statement about a person, a place or a thing.

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But only one of those statements is true.

0:29:180:29:21

You have to decide which one that is.

0:29:210:29:23

Three questions in this round.

0:29:230:29:25

As it is our final round, the money goes up to £500 a question.

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So, best of luck.

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Here we go.

0:29:300:29:31

So, I'm really drawn towards B.

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And I've seen people trying to prove it by

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putting their foot against their arm.

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If I remember correctly, it ended up being true.

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You're edging towards B.

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No doubt our panel will come to a united decision

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quickly on this question. Your debate starts now.

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OK, Matt, lie down on the table, quick.

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-I can do that for you.

-I've never thought about the length of

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-somebody's head.

-OK, your full height.

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I might have a particularly big head.

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All right, here we go.

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One, two, three...

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You might want to stop there.

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LAUGHTER

0:30:360:30:37

..five, six, seven, no.

0:30:370:30:41

-I rule that one out.

-I didn't think that worked.

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You know, we didn't have to do that.

0:30:440:30:46

Also, I think the length of your...

0:30:460:30:48

Twice the length of your hand.

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I think it's the foot.

0:30:500:30:52

I think Michael's got it.

0:30:520:30:54

-Yes.

-That just feels right.

0:30:540:30:56

That just looks like an impression of Bruce Forsyth.

0:30:560:30:59

I think that's the one.

0:31:000:31:02

-It does.

-That works every time.

0:31:020:31:04

I enjoyed that.

0:31:040:31:06

-I bet you did.

-I think we're quite agreeable on this one,

0:31:060:31:09

we think the answer is from your wrist to your elbow is roughly

0:31:090:31:12

the length of your foot.

0:31:120:31:14

Michael, it was a very scientific discussion there from our panel.

0:31:160:31:19

The practical demonstrations were really helpful, yes.

0:31:190:31:22

Yes, I'm pretty sure B. I'm going to go with B.

0:31:220:31:25

For £500...

0:31:270:31:29

is that the correct statement?

0:31:290:31:31

It is the correct statement. Well done.

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Well played. The total height of an average human

0:31:430:31:46

is between seven and seven and a half times,

0:31:460:31:48

which is exactly what you were measuring out.

0:31:480:31:50

Your hand, on average, is about

0:31:500:31:53

three quarters the length of your head.

0:31:530:31:55

Michael, I mean, it's a 100% record here, £500,

0:31:550:31:59

taking you up to a total of £2,200.

0:31:590:32:02

CHEERING

0:32:020:32:04

Here comes question two.

0:32:060:32:07

I would be drawn towards A, the books came out in the 1960s.

0:32:280:32:31

What we need is a panel with someone on it who is old enough to remember

0:32:310:32:36

the Mr Men books first-time round.

0:32:360:32:38

I'm not looking at anyone in particular, Matt.

0:32:380:32:40

LAUGHTER

0:32:400:32:42

Panel, your debate starts now.

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Well, OK, yes, I was a child in the 1970s.

0:32:440:32:47

Mr Men books were there then.

0:32:470:32:50

-OK.

-So, it could be true.

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And as a kid in the '80s, I thought Mr Men was a bit retro.

0:32:520:32:56

In a good way, but they were not new.

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So, by extension is that you think I'm a bit retro, but in a good way.

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-Is that the way it works?

-Whatever makes you happy, Matt.

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And I also read Mr Tickle, I think it would be Mr Grumpy,

0:33:060:33:12

or Mr Bump.

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Tickle was the dude with the big...

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Bump feels like a classic, doesn't it?

0:33:160:33:18

-So, we can definitely rule out the second one.

-I think so.

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David's going to kill me if I don't know that.

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-You know David Jason?

-Yes, I work with David Jason,

0:33:240:33:26

we're doing Still Open All Hours together.

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And he was around in the '60s.

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-So...

-But he also did other voiceovers, didn't he?

0:33:310:33:34

-He did Danger Mouse.

-Yes, he did.

0:33:340:33:36

-So, he was...

-He would have, he would have...

0:33:360:33:38

-Oh, my word.

-Now you're talking.

0:33:380:33:41

-Instinct again. What do you think?

-David Jason.

-David Jason.

-Yep?

0:33:410:33:45

Right, we think that David Jason

0:33:450:33:49

narrated the original Mr Men TV show.

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OK, Michael, we have a difference of opinion between you and the panel

0:33:530:33:56

-for one of the first times, I think, today.

-Yep.

0:33:560:33:59

Now, does that make you change your mind?

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It's trying to make me change my mind, yes.

0:34:010:34:03

David Jason, it's just something you think you would know,

0:34:030:34:06

but then again I didn't know that he narrated Danger Mouse.

0:34:060:34:10

So that kind of sways me.

0:34:100:34:13

I'm going to switch my answer from A to C.

0:34:130:34:15

It's the toss of a coin, really.

0:34:150:34:19

You're now going with David Jason

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narrated the original Mr Men TV show.

0:34:210:34:23

£500. Is that the correct statement?

0:34:230:34:27

-I'm so sorry.

-It was the middle one!

0:34:370:34:40

It was Tickle.

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Mr Tickle was created, supposedly, when Roger Hargreaves,

0:34:420:34:44

who wrote the book, his son asked his dad what a tickle looked like.

0:34:440:34:47

-Oh, cute!

-Then he went on to become...

-Wow.

0:34:470:34:52

-The original Mr Men TV series was narrated by Arthur Lowe...

-Oh!

0:34:520:34:56

Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army.

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As soon as you say that I can hear the voice.

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The Mr Men came out in 1971.

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No money added on that question.

0:35:020:35:04

But you still have one question left. Here it comes.

0:35:040:35:08

I believe he is married with kids,

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and he's been married for a long while.

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So I don't believe he got engaged to a Footballers' Wives star in 2013.

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And I just, no game sticks out for me of Ronnie O'Sullivan beating

0:35:400:35:44

Stephen Hendry.

0:35:440:35:46

So, I think statement C is true.

0:35:460:35:48

OK, we'll keep your powder dry, you're thinking it is C.

0:35:480:35:51

Panel, can you help Michael out on this one?

0:35:510:35:54

-Your debate starts now.

-No, I can't help you.

0:35:540:35:56

OK, my dad, we used to watch... I'm one of four girls,

0:35:560:35:59

we had a pool table, and we used to watch snooker all the time.

0:35:590:36:02

And I used to fancy Stephen Hendry.

0:36:020:36:05

And it was always Steve Hendry and Steve Davis.

0:36:050:36:08

Jimmy White was around in that era,

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because Stephen Hendry won everything,

0:36:100:36:12

and then, kind of, Ronnie took that mantle from him,

0:36:120:36:15

-rather than being his rival.

-OK.

0:36:150:36:17

-In my head.

-I think Michael's logic was really good.

0:36:170:36:20

I'm not a snooker fan.

0:36:200:36:22

I literally, the last time I watched snooker it was in black and white.

0:36:220:36:25

But the way Michael was talking about it makes perfect sense.

0:36:250:36:27

The way I spoke about it didn't, did it not?

0:36:270:36:29

No, the way you... The way you spoke about it also makes perfect...

0:36:290:36:33

-I'm joking.

-LAUGHTER

0:36:330:36:36

-You know I love you, don't you?

-I do.

0:36:360:36:38

And I was going to say, and also the way you were speaking about it,

0:36:380:36:42

Angela, makes perfect sense, also.

0:36:420:36:44

Thank God you both agree.

0:36:440:36:45

LAUGHTER

0:36:450:36:48

I'm so sorry, Michael, I can help you in no way possible.

0:36:480:36:51

I don't even know the difference between snooker and pool.

0:36:510:36:54

So, I'll just be quiet and listen to the two of them.

0:36:540:36:56

Listen to Scanlon, listen to... Don't listen to me, I know nothing.

0:36:560:36:58

The only thing I will say is

0:36:580:37:00

that the Footballers' Wives thing is almost so obscure

0:37:000:37:04

-that it could be true.

-Wouldn't we know that?

0:37:040:37:07

-They would be, like, the snooker power couple.

-I don't think

0:37:070:37:10

snooker's really that type of sport.

0:37:100:37:12

I don't think snooker's a sport, but that is...

0:37:120:37:14

A different matter entirely.

0:37:140:37:16

-Sorry.

-Controversial.

-Do you want to go with C?

0:37:160:37:19

We feel that the answer is that he has never beaten Stephen Hendry

0:37:190:37:25

at the World Championships.

0:37:250:37:26

-MICHAEL:

-I've got a little thought that it might be B,

0:37:260:37:28

but I'm going to stick with C,

0:37:280:37:30

and say he's never beaten Stephen Hendry at the World Championships.

0:37:300:37:33

For £500, the correct statement is...

0:37:330:37:37

-Oh!

-It's A, he got engaged to Laila Rouass in 2013.

0:37:450:37:51

-You know her.

-I know her, too.

0:37:510:37:54

Sorry, you've worked with Laila Rouass...

0:37:540:37:55

-Yes.

-You've worked with David Jason.

0:37:550:37:57

Yes. And I know nothing about either of them.

0:37:570:38:00

I don't live with them, you know?

0:38:000:38:02

-Or talk to them.

-Or talk that much.

0:38:020:38:04

Now is not the time, now is not the time!

0:38:040:38:07

Michael's come all this way and the whole thing is falling apart.

0:38:070:38:10

He made his World Championship debut at the Crucible Theatre in 1993,

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aged 17 years and five months.

0:38:150:38:17

He has beaten Stephen Hendry twice,

0:38:170:38:20

Angela, at the World Championships.

0:38:200:38:22

Both in the semifinals.

0:38:220:38:24

-Oh.

-In 2004 and 2008.

0:38:240:38:27

At the end of round three, the prize pot is £2,200.

0:38:270:38:30

CHEERING

0:38:300:38:32

If you manage to bag that today, what's the plan?

0:38:360:38:39

A holiday in the summer, I think, a nice Interrailing trip.

0:38:390:38:42

Well, there's just one question between you and that £2,200.

0:38:420:38:46

It is, of course, our final debate,

0:38:460:38:48

where you will face just one question.

0:38:480:38:50

That question will have six possible answers. Only three are correct.

0:38:500:38:54

To win, you must identify all three.

0:38:540:38:57

But, as before, you are not alone.

0:38:570:38:59

This is, of course, the final debate.

0:38:590:39:00

We are going to make life a little bit more tricky for you.

0:39:000:39:03

You must choose one of our panel to assist you.

0:39:030:39:06

Who would you like to join you on the final debate?

0:39:060:39:09

Will it be our very own Rogue Trader, Matt?

0:39:090:39:11

Will it be our team captain, Nina?

0:39:110:39:14

Or will you choose Angela in the hope

0:39:140:39:16

that no world-famous film directors come up?

0:39:160:39:20

-Who is it going to be, Michael?

-The panel have been very helpful.

0:39:200:39:23

But Matt's all-round knowledge has helped me a lot.

0:39:230:39:27

I'm going to have to go with Matt.

0:39:270:39:28

OK, Matt, would you please join us as we play our final debate?

0:39:280:39:31

CHEERING

0:39:310:39:33

OK, Matt, Michael has chosen you for the final debate.

0:39:370:39:39

-Fool.

-Fool?

-Fool, yes.

0:39:390:39:42

Come on, you did so well earlier on.

0:39:420:39:44

In the questions where I knew it, I knew it.

0:39:440:39:46

And the ones where I didn't, I really didn't.

0:39:460:39:49

So basically, we just need the ones that you know.

0:39:490:39:51

We need, if you could just provide us with questions we both know,

0:39:510:39:54

-we'll be fine, yes.

-OK, Michael, you have two categories to choose from,

0:39:540:39:57

let's have a look.

0:39:570:39:59

Oh, tough choice.

0:40:050:40:07

I know a bit about board games.

0:40:070:40:09

I know a bit about alcoholic drinks.

0:40:090:40:10

-Yeah.

-You've got to go with what you feel best about.

0:40:100:40:13

-I think I'm going to go with alcoholic drinks.

-Good one.

0:40:130:40:15

Everybody in Ireland will be proud of you, Michael.

0:40:150:40:18

LAUGHTER OK, Michael, £2,200 up for grabs,

0:40:180:40:22

we're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

0:40:220:40:25

Best of luck. Here is today's final debate question.

0:40:250:40:28

For the final time, the debate starts now.

0:40:550:40:59

OK, Magnum...

0:40:590:41:00

Is two bottles?

0:41:000:41:01

Magnum has got to be one of the smallest.

0:41:010:41:03

-Yeah.

-After that, I honestly don't know.

0:41:030:41:07

I think Methuselah is...

0:41:070:41:09

Something in the back of my mind tells me it's a small bottle.

0:41:090:41:12

-You think?

-Yes.

0:41:120:41:15

Jeroboam?

0:41:150:41:16

It feels like you need to have to have something before you get into

0:41:160:41:20

-the big Biblical names.

-Yes.

0:41:200:41:22

Does it not?

0:41:220:41:25

I haven't got much logic for you, mate, I haven't got a lot of

0:41:250:41:28

-knowledge, either.

-Jeroboam is something you think is small?

0:41:280:41:30

I would say Jeroboam, Methuselah, and Magnum.

0:41:300:41:32

-Yes, that's, those were my first thoughts.

-That's all I've got.

-OK.

0:41:320:41:35

That's all I've got.

0:41:350:41:37

It's good logic on the biblical names.

0:41:370:41:39

You know, then it starts to get massive.

0:41:390:41:41

Nebuchadnezzar is, like, a 20-bottle bottle.

0:41:410:41:44

Time up, guys. I need an answer, Michael.

0:41:440:41:46

Yes, I'm going to go with Jeroboam, Magnum, and Methuselah.

0:41:460:41:50

We need all three of these to be correct to go home with the money.

0:41:500:41:53

Best of luck. Here we go.

0:41:530:41:56

Let's find if there's three correct answers up there.

0:41:560:41:58

First, you chose Jeroboam.

0:41:580:42:02

Was that one of the three smallest?

0:42:020:42:04

It was.

0:42:100:42:12

Well done. We're up and running. A Jeroboam of champagne is the

0:42:130:42:16

equivalent of four standard bottles.

0:42:160:42:18

One down, two to go. Next you went for Magnum.

0:42:180:42:22

Is Magnum a correct answer?

0:42:240:42:25

-It was.

-Yes!

-Two out of three.

-Yes.

0:42:330:42:37

A Magnum is the size of two standard bottles.

0:42:370:42:41

If Methuselah is the right answer, you will leave with £2,200.

0:42:410:42:45

If it's the wrong answer, I'm afraid, you will leave with nothing.

0:42:450:42:48

Is Methuselah one of the three smallest sizes of champagne bottles?

0:42:480:42:52

CHEERING

0:43:020:43:04

-Well done. Well done.

-£2,200.

0:43:040:43:07

-Very well done.

-Unbelievable. I can't believe it.

0:43:070:43:11

£2,200. A Methuselah is the equivalent

0:43:110:43:14

of eight standard bottles,

0:43:140:43:17

which is the exact amount of champagne that Michael is going

0:43:170:43:19

to be buying all of us right now.

0:43:190:43:21

Congratulations. Let's hear it for Michael one more time.

0:43:210:43:24

CHEERING

0:43:240:43:26

That's it for Debatable. There's just enough time for me to thank our

0:43:290:43:32

fantastic panel, Matt Allwright, Nina Wadia, and Angela Scanlon.

0:43:320:43:35

I hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time

0:43:350:43:38

for more heated debates. For now, it's goodbye.

0:43:380:43:40

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