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So, Conrad, you have seen this show before? You know what it entails? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-I think so, yes. -OK, well, I salute your balls. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
I will give you the opportunity to do just that if you want. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
And who says prison doesn't work?! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
Good evening and welcome to Have I Got News For You. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm Alexander Armstrong. In the news this week, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
after an impassioned speech denying that the Conservatives | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
are the party of privilege, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Ken Clarke makes his way back to the Commons. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
As he and his staff are forced to relocate | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
and rent a small office in Peckham, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
there's evidence former Chief Whip Andrew Mitchell | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
has yet to lose his sense of self-importance. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
INAUDIBLE | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
And at Washington airport, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
there's a security alert after some idiot leaves a bag unattended. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
With Ian tonight is a writer and presenter | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
whose engagement to comedian David Mitchell was announced in The Times. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Old-fashioned, but it only got there | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
because a News International journalist hacked her phone. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Please welcome Victoria Coren! | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
And with Paul is a former owner of The Daily Telegraph, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
who was imprisoned for three and a half years for fraud. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
He's also described Rupert Murdoch as a psychopath. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
So, he's not all bad, then! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Please welcome Conrad, Lord Black of Crossharbour! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
And we start with the biggest stories of the week. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Paul and Conrad, please take a look at this. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Oh, badgers, yes, this is badgers. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
They've called off the cull of badgers. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
Brian May may have been responsible. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
And George Osborne is going to be culled instead, apparently. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
This is the badger cull that's not going to happen | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
because there was too many police involved in the Olympics, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
they can't be involved in the cull. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
There's more badgers than there should be, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
so they think the cull's not going to work. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Some of the badgers have started employing barn owls as bouncers. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
So it's going to be postponed till next year, I think. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
But I thought that some of these badgers, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
since they couldn't be culled, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
were being employed as auxiliaries to go from door to door, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
bothering people and pestering them with messages on their collars, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
urging them to subscribe to The Times. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Yes, I've heard that as well! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
What was the police's role to be? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
They were meant to protect the farmers against protesters, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
who didn't want the badgers to be culled. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
-That's right. -What's weird is that they said | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
they had to cull them because there were too many and they were dangerous... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Now there's too many to cull. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Now there's too many, which suggests that they're about to take over. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
We know from literature that these are wise creatures, knowledgeable... | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
Yes, but like the Daleks can't go upstairs, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
badgers don't come out in daylight, so they're going to have to... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
It'll have to be a night-time coup if they are going to | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
take over the country. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
And why are the badgers being culled? What are they accused of? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Erm, the Great Train Robbery was one thing. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Well, it's for spreading TB to cattle. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
We don't know if they do that or not, but that's the belief. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
They're accused of spreading TB, some would say unfairly accused. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-They're innocent before proven. -Unfairly accused. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Oh, don't you hate it when that happens! | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
I believe you said, on another matter, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
-"If this is justice, I'm a banana." -I did! | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Yeah, well, you know, the badgers may be... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-They may be bananas yet. -Exactly. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
So who has been lobbying on behalf of badgers? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-Brian May! -That's right. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
We've got a picture of Brian here, from some years ago | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
and...now. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Now I'm guessing, sometime between those two photographs, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
there was a phase when he was a bit badgery himself. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Why are there so many? Is it that they don't have natural predators? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
And they no longer consort with rats or moles. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
1992, they were made a protected species, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
so there are no natural predators, apart from Jeremy Clarkson. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
-One answer could be to introduce something like a puma. -Yeah. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
"Puma, this is some badgers. Badgers, here's the puma." | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-There could be a vaccine. -There could be. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
What are the problems with the vaccine? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
They won't always keep their appointments. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
The boom in badgers has had an effect on hedgehogs. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
There are now very few. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
Hedgehogs are now being edged towards... | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
-endangered species. -Do badgers eat hedgehogs? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Very carefully. -Do they? | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
They come with their own toothpicks, so it's not all bad, is it? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
That was quite a good joke, that, is this on? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
-The Minister for Badgers, we have one... -Owen Paterson. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Owen Paterson, yeah, The Guardian asked him | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
if he was concerned about the public opinion being against the cull. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Anyone see what he replied to that? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
"I don't care, I'm a bloodthirsty lunatic. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
"Badgers first, next it's Methodists!" | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
He said... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
There we are! Yeah, exactly. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Sound advice there for anyone thinking of pissing themselves. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:45 | 0:05:46 | |
Is there seriously... There's a Minister for Badgers? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
There's not been a story about badgers in my lifetime before. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
What's this person been doing for the last...24 years? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
No, but what do they do the rest of the time? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-He's Minister for Environment. -Oh, OK. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Yeah, he's just got the job - he's like a lot of the Tory cabinet, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
he's feeling his way into disaster slowly. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
In other news, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
how was George Osborne dragged back into the class war this week? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Oh, yes, about this time a week ago, was it? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
He was travelling on a train | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
but only had a standard-class ticket for first class, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
and then there's conflicting accounts as to what happened next. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Yes, there was a journalist in the same... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
The same carriage, not in the first-class bit, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
-but she took a picture and put it on Twitter. -Yes. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Have you been around for Twitter? Did you miss Twitter? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-Well, I missed that Twitter, but I'm aware of the phenomenon. -Oh, OK. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Anything you're not up to speed on, you just... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
No, I... | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
George Osborne doesn't seem terribly warm. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
I didn't think it would be easy to feel sympathetic towards him, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
but it is really hard to get the right train ticket. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Haven't we all been on a train and told, "You can't sit there, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
"you've done the wrong thing, you have to be wearing a hat for that"? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
-That would let the Chancellor off, wouldn't it? -Hmm. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
I don't mind that he doesn't know which ticket to buy, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-it's just that he doesn't know which franchise to award to who. -Yes. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Alexander, when Mr Disraeli was the Chancellor, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-didn't he have his own train? -Mm-hm. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-It would stop anywhere he wanted. -Yeah, well... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Well, as long as it was on a railway line, I mean... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
But is this progress, in this country, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
for the Chancellor to go from a private train | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
down to being condemned for having a first-class ticket? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Yes, it is. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
But you are allowed to buy a ticket. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
You can get on a train without any ticket and buy when the man comes. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Some trains, if you buy it on the train, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
it costs more than if you bought it in advance at the station. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
And sometimes if you say, "Can I buy a ticket on the train?" | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-they say, "No, you can pay a fine..." -Oh, really? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
"..because you should not have boarded without a ticket." | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-A groan of agreement here. -LAUGHTER | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
-A number of known fare dodgers. -LAUGHTER | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Who was with George Osborne at the time? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
His assistant, who he blamed. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-That's government for you. -HE MOUTHS | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
She has a lovely name, Poppy Mitchell-Rose. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Here there are, there's the happy... happy couple. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
VICTORIA: Oh, that, I'd forgotten that, they were watching a DVD. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Oh, that's what annoyed me. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
I was sympathetic about the ticket, but - "You can't read a book?!" | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
It might be a mirror. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
It keeps him entertained for hours! | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
A fellow passenger - who spoke to the Daily Mail... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Not necessary, it could have been | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
a documentary about poor people. Yeah. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Oh, yes! | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
-So what happened in the end? -The upgrade was paid. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
That's right, out of George's own pocket. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Sidney and Beatrice Webb, the founders of the Fabian Society, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
always travelled first class, because they found the poor people | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
noisy and irritating and interrupted their concentration. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
That's... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Are you suggesting that's a good or a bad thing? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
I suspect they were correct. LAUGHTER | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
So this is what you call a charm offensive, is it? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
So Osborne ended up coughing up £189.90. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
Still, as The Guardian helpfully pointed out... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-Cor! -I think I read, in Vanity Fair, that you said despite everything | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-you are still worth about 80 million, is that right? -No. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I had said that I'd lost 80% of my money | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
fighting this oppression from the United States Government, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
so they said, "That leaves you with 80 million..." | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Did they invade you? I must have missed this! | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
I said I thought I could live on 80 million, if that was what I had. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Yeah, well, that's the spirit, chin up! | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
When Osborne's train arrived in London, which it did, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
as we saw, there was a pack of journalists waiting. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
George was anxious to clear everything up, obviously. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
According to The Guardian, he told the media - | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
He's got form, though, Osborne... Sorry, that's insensitive, sorry. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
He's done this before. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
He was allegedly caught doing the same thing in May this year. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
The Sunday Times reported... | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I would stick to "I'm sure it will be, um," in the future. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
It's all right for them to sit in first class, then? | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
You still call it a great office of state, you know. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Can't he travel first class? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-We are in the middle of this austerity thing. -Yes. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Did you have that? | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-No, Canada's rich. -But we're trying | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
to foster a spirit of all being in it together. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
So any sort of class distinction at the moment is very, very sensitive. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
Which is why he introduced you as Mr Black. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
You are Conrad, Lord Black of Crossharbour. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Is that how you introduced me? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
I'm still wondering what I should call you now, though. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Your Crossharbourness. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-Alexander. -OK. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
No, that's my name, that would be confusing. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Also this week, what has David Cameron been saying about criminals? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Um... Conrad. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
That in this great United Kingdom, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
those officially so designated may actually have broken the law. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
And that this is a departure from some transatlantic customs. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
He didn't really make a decision that innocent people | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
should not go to jail, did he, this week? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Does this require the truth, Alexander? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
I know you're not used to that, Conrad. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
-Not used to hearing it, certainly. -Oh, really? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
What about from the jury? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Nine acquittals and they sort of ran out of steam. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
But the Supreme Court made up for it unanimously... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
No, you didn't run out of steam, you ran into jail. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
They found you guilty, didn't they, Conrad, the jury? | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
Er, nine acquittals, complemented by a unanimous | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
vacation of the four guilty verdicts by the Supreme Court of the US. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
But two stuck - one for fraud and one for obstruction of justice. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Oh, Ian, please, please. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
"Oh, stop reciting the verdict as though it was true." | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
A little respect for due process, Ian. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
-No, I'm... -You are a banana! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
I DO respect it. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
I am not a banana, all I am saying is that you were found | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
guilty on two counts, which stood, you went to jail, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
you have come back... You would like to be rehabilitated? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
No, no, I have been rehabilitated | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
and I'm proud to have been cleared by the Supreme Court. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-You weren't cleared! -And I've come here... | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
You've come to say you're innocent. Sweet, but not true. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
-What did we discover MPs have been up to this week? -More expenses. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
-Mm-hm? -Was there one about prisoners voting? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Did somebody get a point for that, or is that not the answer? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
-I think we've done enough about prisons for a while. -Oh, it's... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
They are renting out houses and buying other houses | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and buying people to live in houses | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
and selling the people to the other... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
They've found an ingenious loophole. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Isn't one of them sharing a flat with another MP and renting out hers, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
then the MP that's renting a room to her is claiming something on that? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Yeah. That's exactly right, yes. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
That is the connection between Labour MP | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Iain McKenzie and Labour MP Linda Riordan. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Why aren't they all in prison? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Well, two of them on the expenses fiddle are in the House of Lords | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
and it's awfully hard to get rid of people... | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
with a record... from the House of Lords. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Lord Archer? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
We... We embrace him as a fellow author. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Can I ask you a question? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
When you were in prison, were you a really important figure? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
Were you the sort of Harry Grout of the jail? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
It was like Camp New Moon, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
I enjoyed every moment of it. And I only came out | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
when the Supreme Court released me, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
in order to come back here and try and help enlighten you with | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
this crisis you're having with the badgers. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Incidentally, Linda Riordan is the MP for Halifax. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Not sure if that's the town or the building society. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
So, what is she going to do now, just to round this off? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Is she going to resign? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
No, according to the Telegraph... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
I bet she did. And then she was going to sell it. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
She told the Telegraph she took the decision... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
It would be really nice | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
if people provided transparency BEFORE they were rumbled, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
rather than after. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Can I just go back to something? Camp New Moon? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-Is that what you said? -I did, yes. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Camp New Moon? And then you came out? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
I must... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
I must say how moved I am at the relief that is clear tonight, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
throughout the room, at the fact that I did indeed come out. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
I had not been in this country for seven years and I am really | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
quite affected by this tremendous solicitude | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
for the fact that I did leave. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
My wife, who has also enjoyed, as I have, tremendously sympathetic | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
treatment in the British media over the last few years... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
But you did own a big chunk of it | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-and you weren't awfully sympathetic to other people, were you? -I was. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
-I was deeply sympathetic, even to you, Ian. -You weren't. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-Not at all. -Oh, Ian, what rubbish! Your nose is growing. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
I was a very... | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
MY nose is growing?! God. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
The "Black" calling the kettle a crook. God... | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
This is the last-minute reprieve for Britain's badgers, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
who can now breathe easy. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
Apart from the thousands who've got TB. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Meanwhile, George Osborne was in trouble after being caught | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
in a first-class train seat with a standard-class ticket. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
In fairness, he had tried to sit in the quiet carriage | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
but was asked to leave on account of all the booing. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-APPLAUSE -Good joke. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
According to the Mirror, when he arrived at Euston... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
But unfortunately, the train had stopped. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
Also this week, Trenton Oldfield, the protester who jumped into | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
the Thames to disrupt this year's Boat Race, was sent to jail. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
He almost collided with the Oxford crew, but avoided the cox. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Good luck doing that in prison. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Now, Ian and Victoria, take a look at this. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
Oh, good, things are going to cheer up now, aren't they? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
I'm worried about this, because I think I am the only person | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
in Britain that thinks the BBC were right not to put on that Newsnight. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
You might say, "Why did they cover it up? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
"Now it's come out, there doesn't seem to have been much of a fuss." | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
But I genuinely can understand how, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
if you were in charge of an organisation like that | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
and somebody had just died, you wouldn't necessarily think it was | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
right to air a programme saying they were a child molester. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
You should be careful what you say | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
about people who are not there to defend themselves. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
It was a difficult decision. They would've had a hard time | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
if they had put it on. They didn't, and they're getting a hard time. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-That's certainly novel. -I'm glad so many of you agree. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
I totally agree that we should be looking at the managers | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
of the hospitals who gave him a room and whatever, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
but the BBC employed him for 50 years. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
They cracked him up, they did nothing about what he did. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
It must be remedied. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
You cannot say, "Oh, it's unfair on the BBC." | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
That's why the Director-General | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
is in front of a Parliamentary Select Committee, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
the whole thing is about, was it pulled | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
because the BBC thought, "We can't disrupt our Christmas schedule, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
"we can't piss on our own 50-year parade of 'isn't Jimmy a great guy?' | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
"by putting out a programme that's saying, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
" 'actually, he wasn't - look at this.' " | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Were you hoping our answer would be funnier than this? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-SQUEAKS: -Yes. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
How was the new Director-General, George Entwistle, grilled this week? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
The members of the Cultural Select Committee had a go at him. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
They said he was, I think, like a suit with no-one in it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
The Sun described him as... | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Again, one doesn't want to sit here and be accused of defending | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
the BBC, because the BBC has a lot to answer for. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
But one of the high points of the select committee | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
was when George Entwistle said, "I don't remember, I don't recall, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
"I'm not sure," and someone said, "You sound like James Murdoch." | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
Quite a good joke. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Not in The Sun. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
George Entwistle, as I understand, has just taken on the job recently. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
You've got to salute the chap - is it Thompson? - | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
who was in the job before. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
He's like the person who sells his house just before a motorway | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
goes through the garden. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
And this poor Mr Entwistle, straight in. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Poor Mr Entwistle was in charge of television | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
when the Newsnight programme was pulled. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
He told MPs that the BBC is a great organisation | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
because only a great organisation | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
would allow one of its own programmes | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
to tell everyone how rubbish it is. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, that is true, there was a very good Panorama about Newsnight. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
And then, next week, there's a Newsnight about Panorama. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
This idea that changing the schedules is a big deal - | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
no, it isn't. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Dad's Army, and again. And then another one. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
The one where Pike says... You know, with the Italian commander. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-Paul, help me out. -German. -German. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Played by Philip Madoc, who was a Welshman. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
"Your name will go in my book. What is it?" | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
"Don't tell him, Pike." "Pike." | 0:20:05 | 0:20:06 | |
The other thing about Dad's Army is that Arthur Lowe, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
who played Captain Mainwaring, had it written | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
into his contract that he couldn't appear without wearing any trousers. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
So if there was a scene which needed him to have no trousers, he wouldn't do it. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Quite right. Which makes him unique at the BBC in the '70s. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Exactly, yes. Absolutely. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Did you see how uncooperative Jeremy Paxman was this week? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
Have a look at this. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Mr Paxman, have you got any comments about the Newsnight investigation? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
No. Have you? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
He's very aggressive, isn't he, Lord Cross? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
-I found him very cooperative. -Really? -Oh, yes. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-Let's have a quick look at you on Paxman. -Sure. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Let me tell you something, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I am proud of having gone through the terribly difficult | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
process of being falsely charged, falsely convicted, and ultimately | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
almost completely vindicated, without losing my mind, becoming irrational, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
ceasing to be a penitent and reasonable person, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and actually being able to endure a discussion like this | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
without getting up and smashing your face in, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
which is what most people would do if they had been through what I have. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-Well, you go ahead. No-one's stopping you. -No, I wouldn't... | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Does that feel good? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
Er, not as good as doing it. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
No, I like Jeremy, he's just... He's just...an asshole. That's all. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
It's unbelievable that you get away with that, really. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
A man asking you questions about being a fraudster | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and you just say, "He's an asshole." | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
So, moving on, which other much-loved and respected | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
TV entertainer's reputation may be tarnished by a new investigation? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Pudsey. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
-It's Piers Morgan, isn't it? -What is the story? -Well... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
It looked for a while as though only News International were going | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
to get blamed for phone hacking. But now, would you believe it, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
someone has taken a civil action against the Mirror Group! | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Four people. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
And the editor at the time of the trouble was Piers Morgan. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
Who...is innocent. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
He has repeatedly denied having anything to do with phone hacking. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Yes, though amusingly, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
most of the evidence comes from his own autobiography. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
-What does Jeremy Paxman have to say about Piers? -Tell us. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
He told the Leveson enquiry that over a lunch at the Mirror in 2002, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Piers Morgan explained that Paxman would be a fool | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
not to have his own security setting on his mobile voicemail. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Piers Morgan laughed this off and he says | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
he can't remember any of the details. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
He has a very patchy memory. In the Daily Mail, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
he said of Jimmy Savile... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
Yet, in an extract from Piers' book, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
also printed in the Daily Mail in 2009, he said... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
What do you think of Piers Morgan, Conrad? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
-He wanted desperately to come and visit me in prison. -Did he? | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
And I told the warden I would be happy to receive him. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
But then, I'm afraid, he kind of bottled out. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
Do you suppose he was afraid that once admitted in, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
he wouldn't be allowed out? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Yes, this is | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
the embarrassingly inept handling of the Jimmy Savile scandal, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
which has caused the public to lose all trust in the BBC. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
One Newsnight source has suggested that | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
the reason the Savile investigation was dropped | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
was that the BBC Head of News, Helen Boaden... | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Here is Helen Boaden. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Hang on, sorry, before we are accused of another BBC cover-up - | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
whoa, there we go. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Now, until this week, that was her most uncomfortable moment. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
And so to round two, the picture spin quiz. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Fingers on buzzers, teams. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
-BUZZER -Paul? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
-Well, it's a 3D printer. -That's exactly right, yes. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Isn't that called a teleporter? Can you feed yourself in one end... | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
-And come out the other end? -Yeah. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
What would be the point in doing that? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
You're still in the same room, you've just gone through a machine. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
-We can see one in action, here we go. -Go on, then. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
So, what is this, is it plastic or something? My God. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
-And does it always have to look like that thing? -Yes. -Technology for you. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
-Does anyone know how it works? -Yeah. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
You press a button and it comes out of the other end. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Nobody knows. Nobody knows. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
-Nobody knows?! -No-one knows. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
How did it get there in the first place? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
"Look at this machine, you press a button and a house comes out." | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
"How does that work?" "Nobody knows." | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
I'm not sure anyone has tried to explain it, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
because it's veiled in secrecy. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
-Science? -Yes. Various people have tried to have a go at explaining it. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Some say it's like an MRI scan. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Others say it's like making a multilayered sandwich. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
But here is the Independent's science correspondent's attempt. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
-What things can you create with it? -Is that a vase? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
According to the Independent... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
-What?! -How would you make a gun?! | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
You might press the wrong button all afternoon | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
and get hundreds of prosthetic legs. "I've got hundreds of these things, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
"I've got to go out and hit people over the head with them, I've not got a single gun." | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
What else have scientists discovered this week? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
They can go to prison if they don't adequately predict when an earthquake will happen. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
The Italian government is trying to put scientists in jail for failing to predict the earthquake. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Can you imagine? Michael Fish would be in the slammer! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
He'd still be there! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
This is to do with beluga whales. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
There's a beluga whale, they think... | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Was it mimicking human speech? | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
A marine biologist diver thought he heard a whale telling him to get out of the water. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
"Get out the water! Get out the water! | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
"It's hard to keep these alight under here, I tell you." | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
He set up a programme of sound recordings of the whales and analysed them. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Do you want to hear the whale doing an impression of a human? Yes, please. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
KAZOO-LIKE WHALE SONG | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
That sounds like a hell of a party! | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Yes, this is the arrival of a new gadget in our homes, the 3D printer. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Using this technology, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
the University of Washington has proposed... | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Or, as laymen like you or I would call it, a shop. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Fingers on buzzers. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
-BUZZER -Paul and Conrad. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Well, it's Obama and Donald Trump. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Has he said something about the President this week? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
He accused him of being a blowhard. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
And the President demonstrated that he could scarcely move | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Donald's wig, you see. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
It's not a wig, though is it? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Who would buy a wig that looked like that? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
You'd want your money back, wouldn't you? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Is Donald Trump one of those people who believe that the President | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
wasn't born in an American state? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
Exactly. He's a birther. He believes Obama | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
was born in Kenya, hence ineligible for the job of President. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Despite him having shown everyone his birth certificate, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and him being the President. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
One commentator described Donald Trump as a "bloviating ignoramus". | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Conrad, do you know Donald Trump? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
He's a loyal friend | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
and after what I have been put to in the last nine years, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
I attach a great premium to that and I think Donald is a very fine man. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
But I admit, he's an acquired taste. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
What did he promise earlier this week, Donald Trump? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
Didn't he make a bet about the birth certificate? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
He said he'd had a revelation | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
that could possibly change the result of the election. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
What do people think that his revelation was going to be, but never was? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
They thought he would have a different certificate, or have some evidence. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
A tweet from a respected businessman who has been on TV with Trump, Douglas Cass, said... | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
And amazingly, millions of Americans believed a man who talks to a gnome. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
I like the idea that you could pay to see records from politicians. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
I would pay £100 to see George Osborne's O-level maths paper. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
You could do it as a sort of telethon. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
I love the way Donald Trump can say, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
"I want it to be shown to my satisfaction." | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
You think, no, he's the President, you're a man with stupid hair. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
What did some wags at The Guardian do in response to Trump's offer? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
-Dunno. -But I bet it was hilarious. -They rang his office | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
and asked for Trump's college and passport records. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
The paper was accused of... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:56 | |
On the subject of people | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
with questionable hair trying to have a say in American politics - who else has waded in? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
-Is it Wayne Rooney? -It is, yeah. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Wayne Rooney tweeted... | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Is that because Obama's elderly grandmother lives in the UK, I wonder? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
According to seasoned political commentators - The Sun... | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Also, Wayne's tweet was said to be a... | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
..by Piers Morgan. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
Yes, this is Donald Trump's continued obsession | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
with obtaining details of Barack Obama's birth and early life. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
I'm sure they'll be on the internet somewhere, why not just ask that Gary McKinnon to have a root around. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Wayne Rooney stayed up late to watch all three of the presidential | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
debates, so must have turned up tired for training. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
I'm sure Sir Alex Ferguson was delighted. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
"You know the rules - CBeebies for an hour, one prostitute, then bed." | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
Time now for the odd-one-out round. Ian and Victoria, your four are... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
Orson Welles, Dawn French, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Conrad Black and Antony Worrall Thompson. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
VICTORIA: Is Antony Worrall Thompson ever not the odd man out? | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
-Is it fancy dress? -Mm-hm? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
There's definitely a picture of Conrad Black dressed... | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
-Is it Cardinal Richelieu? -It is. Was it? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
You must have been so sorry you wore that costume. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
It was the only one left at Angels. And it wasn't Richelieu, by the way. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
I was just an ordinary cardinal, and my wife didn't even have a costume, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
she put a lot of petticoats under something she had and came as a barmaid. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
Shall we have a quick look at the pair of you? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
When you say your wife didn't have a costume... | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
-So, who's the odd one out? -Orson Welles appeared | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
as Cardinal Richelieu in a film. Dawn French has appeared as a vicar. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
So she's the odd one out, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
because the others have all appeared as a cardinal in some shape or form. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
Spot on. That is right. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
Orson Welles in the 1966 film version of A Man For All Seasons, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
he played the part of Cardinal Wolsey. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
Can anyone else think of another role Orson Welles | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
played in his career? | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
-Citizen Kane. -Citizen Kane. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Yes, played Charles Foster Kane, a power-crazed multimillionaire newspaper tycoon, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
who faces a humiliating demise on account of his own greed. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
Not humiliating, no, not humiliating. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Antony Worrall Thompson, he's dressed as a cardinal to mark | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
the launch of the national Save the Cauliflower campaign, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
which at least explains why | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
he necked all that Cheddar. He just loves cauliflower cheese. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
Why is he dressed as a cardinal? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
He couldn't get a cauliflower costume. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Yes, they have all dressed as a cardinal, except Dawn French, who dressed as a vicar. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
At the end of every episode, the Vicar of Dibley told a joke | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
to her friend Alice, who never, ever laughed. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Though to be fair to Alice, by the end of Vicar of Dibley, she wasn't alone. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
Here is Antony Worrall Thompson, dressed as a cardinal. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
If you think he looks embarrassed there, imagine how he felt | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
when they took that hat off and found an Edam. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Here is Conrad dressed as a cardinal. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
On his way to becoming Pope Innocent the Not. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Talking to Newsnight, Conrad tried to dismiss his ostentatious choice of outfit, saying... | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
He just said that again, on this programme! Why credit Newsnight? | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
Talking to this programme, Conrad tried to | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
dismiss his ostentatious choice of outfit, saying... | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
Actually, that is absolutely true, I got in just before you and nabbed the convict's outfit. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
Paul and Conrad, here are yours. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
Andrew Mitchell MP, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
the Dalai Lama, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
Thomas Bowdler | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
and Jacob Rees-Mogg MP. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Thomas Bowdler, he produced what he thought were | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
improved versions of Shakespeare plays. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Andrew Mitchell, of course, is the "pleb" man. Erm...er... | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
They all amended speeches, is that the clue? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
I think it's about swearing. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Jacob Rees-Mogg was on something recently... | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
How dare you spread rumours! He's not even dead! | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
-I don't know what the odd one out would be. -Andrew Mitchell. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
They've all admitted to swearing, apart from him. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Andrew Mitchell is the odd one out. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
But they all abhor bad language, apart from Andrew Mitchell, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
who said he swore, then said he didn't swear, then said he swore. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
So, yes, the dreary "Plebgate" fiasco finally came to a close. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
It's always sad seeing such a likeable | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
and humble public figure fall from grace. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-The Dalai Lama, why is he up there? -He believes he once swore, in 1046. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
-No, he was accused of speaking in a very un-Dalai-Lama-y way. -Really? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:51 | |
Yes, addressing Brown University. What was he accused of saying? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
-Not sure. -No? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
The Dalai Lama was saying "forget", | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
but the stenographer transcribed that as... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
To be fair, he has done this before, with the same word as well. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Let's have a look at this, this is him speaking in Vancouver. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
I think we should fuh-get | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
about our feeling... Our religious sorrow. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
That is only...differences, and also, you see... | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
fuh-get... | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
CHEERING AND WHOOPING | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-And fuh-get. -No, no. I mean forget. You see, the different races... | 0:34:28 | 0:34:36 | |
You see, he's so unsweary, he doesn't even know why they're making a noise. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
You think? I think he knows perfectly well. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
-You think he's hamming it up? -I think he is. -For laughs. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
According to one biography, Thomas Bowdler, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
the man who removed all references of sex from Shakespeare's plays... | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
Or as he put it, near Bath. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Jacob Rees-Mogg this week, the Conservative MP told Newsnight... | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
You would have never sworn | 0:35:04 | 0:35:05 | |
to a police officer in that manner, would you, Jacob Rees-Mogg? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Miss Maitlis, I don't think I've ever sworn in my adult life. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
Which is obviously complete bollocks. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
This is him, speaking to Andrew Neil, who asked him, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
what class are you? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:21 | |
Well, I'm certainly not part of the aristocracy. That's definitely true. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-So, we'll settle for upper-middle? -I'm a man of the people. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Vox populi, vox dei. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
So, yes, they all abhor bad language, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
apart from Andrew Mitchell, who said he swore, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
then said he didn't swear, then said he swore. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
According to the Sunday Times, since the scandal... | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
Of course he has. Every time he sees a policeman, he cycles away like a man possessed. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
Andrew Mitchell's outburst came after refusing to | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
dismount from his bike when told to by police. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
"He gives all of us cyclists a bad name," said Lance Armstrong. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Time now for the missing word round, which this week features as its guest publication... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
And we start with... | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
Yorkshire housewife. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
Monkey. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
-Absolutely right, yes, mum from Bradford. -Yes. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
According to The Sun... | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
A parrot?! Those monkeys were robbed. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
Next... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
Heterosexual anthem. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
I think I'm going to give you that, yes. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
-I just made that up! -This is the insistence... | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
This is the insistence from the Village People | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
that their song, YMCA, is not gay. According to The Times... | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Not sure that's something you'd want to celebrate, is it? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
"I've had a tattoo." | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Absolutely nearly right. She says tattoos are better than Botox. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Felicity Kendal revealed this | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
in an interview with Piers Morgan, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
although the interview I'm really looking forward to is the one | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
where Piers Morgan chats to the Metropolitan Police about hacking at the Mirror. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
Oh, this is all so awkward! | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
-You do it. -The more the merrier. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
The more employees. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
According to Edition 13, fraud costs the UK... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Although according to Edition 15 of Fraud Focus... | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Hmm, someone's been cooking the books. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
CONRAD: Shred their papers. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
Advised to step aside. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Conrad is probably the nearest. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
According to the National Fraud Authority, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
the greatest risk of data theft is personal information | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
given by women shopping for clothes online. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Luckily, none of the information is accurate. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
Burkas. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
I'd like to see that picture, wouldn't you? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Fancy dress party, they both go as...burkas...er... | 0:38:42 | 0:38:48 | |
Licence plates, they've got similar licence plates for their cars. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
That's right. Here is John Bercow's numberplate. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
So, yes, he has a personalised plate. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
As soon as he changes his name to John B13rco. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
Mobile phone. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
You're absolutely right. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
According to his insurers, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
a farmer claimed for a new phone after he lost his iPhone | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
whilst trying to use it as a torch to look up the rear of a cow. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
Was there nothing on the telly that night? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
Sad thing was, he was only looking up there for his... Oh, balls! | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
He was looking up there for his balls? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
You've got an idea about animal husbandry which you should keep to yourself. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
Sad thing was, he was only looking up there to find his iPad. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Next... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Myopia in squirrels. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
No... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Yes, according to Fraud Focus, Stephen Fry helpfully | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
retweeted a message from the National Fraud Authority, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
which led to an increase in fraud awareness. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Although I think his intention may have been increasing Stephen Fry awareness. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
And lastly... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
VICTORIA: Left into driveway. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
Is it food into meal? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
The most popular smoothies in Britain are Innocent. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
As are all of our panellists tonight. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
So, the final scores are | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
Ian and Victoria have 5, and Paul and Conrad have 10. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
But before we go, there's just time for the caption competition. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
VICTORIA: BBC cover-up reaches new low. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
On which note, we say thank you to our panellists, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Ian Hislop and Victoria Coren, Paul Merton and Conrad Black. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
I leave you with news that in Texas, there is a worrying moment for Lance Armstrong | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
when his dog accidentally swallows the contents of his medical bag. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
In Shepherd's Bush, BBC executives undergo a training exercise | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
on how to react to bad news. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
And after a stressful few weeks, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Andrew Mitchell finally gets time to trim his front hedge. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Goodnight. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 |