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I liked him. The thing is, most people go, "Oh, he's terrible." | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
But I was... I was along the lines of, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
something about him that you find engaging and you sort of... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
you find him amusing, even though he's an absolutely horrific person. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
What's so bloody special | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
about digging a bit of coal out of the ground, eh? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Cor, blimey, I mean anyone can do that. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Even your fuzzy wuzzies in the jungle, they can do that... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
I think Alf Garnett was a genius creation, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
and he gave expression to some pretty radical, er...views. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:38 | |
That's the trouble with this country, we're too bloody soft! | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
We'll never have a proper democracy here, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
unless we shoot a few people, like your Russians! | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
If you examine Alf Garnett, he's an idiot. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
He's a half-educated half-wit, really. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
And, of course, if you look at what he says, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
it's just, you know, it doesn't hold up for a minute. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
But he was convinced, and he was a bigot, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
and he had these strong views, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
and he was a monstrous, hilarious comedy creation. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Alf Garnett's wife, she was... Actually, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
she looked as though she was very subordinate to him, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and she was actually as tough as old boots. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
And she had things to say. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
And because she didn't say them very often, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
they came out really strongly. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
Anyway, it ain't supposed to be a perfect world, is it? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Cos he's always said he would send down things to try us. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Like you. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
The daughter, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
played by Una Stubbs, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
she was a wonderful contrast | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
to her shouty husband, you know, argumentative husband. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
So the two women there, in a way, were the peacemakers. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
I felt very sorry for Johnny Speight, because he got a hard... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Unfortunately, people can't tell the difference between... | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
between a satire of someone and the real thing. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
And I thought that he had a hard time because of that character, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
but it was obvious that he was trying to make a comment on racism. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
How would you like it if I called you a yid? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Where it becomes a grey area is, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
obviously, if that person is funny... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
but we like them. And let's face it, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
we have to like them, cos they're the central part of a sitcom. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
So there's no getting around it - Alf Garnett was liked as a person, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
otherwise he wouldn't have survived so long. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
And there's no getting around it - he was phenomenally racist. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
But I did find it funny. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
And I remember watching it with my father, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
and we would find it funny | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
because, you know, it felt quite real. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
The thing about comedy, if you can't hold these bigots up to light | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
and make fun of them, then you're missing the point. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
I ain't daft, you know? I ain't bloody stupid. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
No, but you do a very good imitation. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
For the un-PC-ness of it all, I thought it was a brave show. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
I thought it was a fantastically written show, | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
but I think the genius of it | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
was he, sort of, reflected the public consciousness, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
especially in London. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
And he was saying things that people were thinking, but not saying. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
If you look at the opening titles, there's that pull back, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
I seem to remember, from Tower Bridge, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
and then it goes across and you look down into West Ham, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and the docks are still there. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
It reflects a bit of working-class society that isn't there any more. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
Not that working-class society isn't there, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
but that bit of East London isn't like that any more. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Right, showing them how to drink wine, ain't we? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Cor, blimey! | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
I've tasted better vinegar up the chip shop! | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Bloody marvellous! | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 |