Hypnosis, Hallucinations & Hysteria QI


Hypnosis, Hallucinations & Hysteria

Stephen Fry asks questions about hypnosis, hallucinations and hysteria. With Ronni Ancona, Phill Jupitus, Robert Webb and Alan Davies.


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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Well, well, well, well, well,

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howdy, howdy, howdy-doody and welcome.

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Welcome to a QI that's all about hypnosis, hallucinations and hysteria.

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And with me tonight are the hypnotic Ronni Ancona...

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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..the hysterical Robert Webb...

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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..the histrionic Phill Jupitus...

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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..and His Majesty Alan Davies.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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With such a theme, we're all buzzing with excitement of course

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and Ronnie goes...

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'You are feeling sleepy.'

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And Robert goes...

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'Very sleepy.'

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And Phill goes...

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'Your eyelids are heavy.'

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And Alan goes...

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SNORING

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So if I hypnotised you but then cut off your leg,

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how much fuss would you make?

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Doesn't it depend what you've gone in for the hypnosis for?

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I mean, if you'd gone into stop smoking, I'd be a bit miffed really.

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That's a very good point.

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Assuming...

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Assuming you'd gone in because you had gangrene

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or you needed to lose your leg...

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They never used hypnosis as an anaesthetic, did they?

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Surely you'd be screaming in agony.

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Oddly enough, no. It was used before ether in the 1830s very commonly

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or reasonably commonly at least,

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once Mesmer had sort of, as it were, introduced the world to the idea of hypnotism.

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What seems to be the case is that most of the discomfort we feel -

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even in an operation like sawing off a leg - is the ANXIETY of pain.

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If you can relieve yourself of the anxiety,

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an enormous amount of the pain goes

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and a good example to prove this is people who are in some way

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allergic to or resistant to anaesthetic

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and so can't be put under because it's too risky.

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So they're injected with Valium,

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which is an anti-anxiety drug and all it does is tranquillise them.

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It doesn't send them to sleep, it just makes them feel less anxious.

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PHILL: If I was going in for surgery,

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I'd feel anxious when I saw the man in the top hat with the crazy eyebrows.

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You're kind of suggesting

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that a lot of pain is just a manifestation of anxiety, isn't it?

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The fact is, pain is created by the brain. It's not a real thing.

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-It's just information, isn't it?

-Information.

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The brain can create it, the brain can be told not to.

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-It's bloody sore information!

-It doesn't help.

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You land a mallet on your thumb, "It's just information! It's just information!"

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-It doesn't really help.

-Yes, hypnotic anaesthesia can be surprisingly effective

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though it seems to work mostly by helping you relax.

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You need answer only one of the following.

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What's the best way to hypnotise either A - an alligator, B - a tiger shark or C - a chicken?

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-I've seen them do it to sharks.

-And what do they do?

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-Don't they lie them on their backs or something?

-Exactly right, you flip it over.

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But I thought sharks had to keep moving in order to survive.

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Which is why whales have learned to tip them over, to make them suffocate and it will kill them.

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-There's a very small hammerhead shark being flipped.

-That is a toy shark.

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Or a really big diver.

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-A frighteningly big diver.

-I think we'd have heard of him!

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-I think we would.

-'Your lids are heavy.'

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I think I know how to do chickens.

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-Yes?

-It's weird because it actually looks like you're...oppressing them

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-quite violently, but you have to hold them to the ground and draw a line.

-Yes!

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You draw a line from their beak along

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and they just stare at it.

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That's what they do. It's called tonic immobility in animals and that's an example of it.

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There's another way to do it to chickens. Take a stick or a paddle...

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In this case, a light flagellation paddle I happen to have in the house. You fix eyes to it

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and hold it up to it and it will apparently stare at it forever.

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Our producer tried it on his - we're the kind of show whose producers have chickens -

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and he says it didn't work at all, they just went off to eat things.

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You just made that up, didn't you?

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No, no, it is in all the books. It says that that is a way to hypnotise them.

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-ROBERT:

-In all the books?!

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In all of the chicken-hypnotising books? All of them?

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How many are there?

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This is why you can't ever let your chickens watch the Muppets.

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LAUGHTER

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Frogs, lizards, crocodiles, sharks, all go into a trance

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if they're turned over onto their backs and held there for just a few seconds.

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Rabbits and guinea pigs do the same if you stroke them or roll them over first.

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Do you know how you wake up rabbits and guinea pigs if they're in that state?

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You let a dog in.

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The kinder way is to blow on their nose.

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-On the nose?

-Yes, a little blow on the nose will do.

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-What have I hypnotised, do you know?

-Hugh Laurie.

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-STEPHEN LAUGHS

-No, I did on a television programme.

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When I was in Maine, doing this documentary about America...

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-What is the most famous animal in Maine?

-A lobster?

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A lobster, we have a lobster in here.

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-Ooh!

-There it is.

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-Now how did I do this?

-LAUGHTER

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I stroked... I remember. There you are.

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You stroke him here, that's it.

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He goes completely still.

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I remember the one I did in Maine, it was...

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I could stand him up on his own.

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You can see, there it is.

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They seem smaller there.

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There he is, completely still, not moving a muscle.

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-PHILL LAUGHS

-A mussel!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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There he is, completely still,

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and if I lift him up,

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his tail will come up usually

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and he'll wake up.

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Erm...have I killed you?

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No, there he is.

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He's all right. He's still asleep.

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-Anyway...

-LAUGHTER

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There we are, he's quite active now, under there.

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So dinner's sorted.

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So he's going back to the zoo, Stephen?

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Of course, I'm going to throw him back into the sea, naturally.

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You truly are a Renaissance man.

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I wear tights, put it that way.

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What about, though... I mean that's humans hypnotising animals.

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Can animals hypnotise humans?

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There was a dog - Oscar the hypno-dog -

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who was... There he is, look.

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-Those are pretty amazing eyes.

-ALAN:

-I'm feeling it now.

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I'll go and get the biscuits.

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The thing is,

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he can keep up that stare into a human's eyes for a very long time.

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LAUGHTER

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-ROBERT:

-Depending on what human wants to be stared at!

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-Does he charge hourly?

-ALAN:

-Pack it in, Oscar. Stop looking at me.

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Hugh Lennon was his trainer. He did go missing and a reward

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was posted for his return, though the public were warned not to look into his eyes.

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Does that sound like a publicity stunt to try and get tickets?

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"Oscar the hypno-dog is loose! Don't look at him!"

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"I've seen him. He's in the park."

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Presumably when he's running around, someone thought they'd find him and go, "It's Oscar the hypno-dog,"

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and he'd go, "I'm not the dog you're looking for.

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"I'm a Pomeranian."

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So, yes, dogs can apparently hypnotise humans. Snakes...

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maybe not humans, but they're said to be able to freeze a rabbit by staring at them.

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-They're very gullible, rabbits.

-Oh, please!

-They believe anything.

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-They're quite grumpy.

-Grumpy?

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-Yes.

-They can be aggressive.

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They're not supposed to be very good pets. They're very grumpy... and violent.

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I like the Dutch ones you can ride.

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Surely not?

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They're huge, they're massive!

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OK, maybe not ride.

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Crush.

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-That is a rabbit costume.

-A Dutchman wearing a rabbit costume.

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DUTCH ACCENT: "OK, I am wearing a saddle and it's time to go."

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I love rabbits.

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Oh, my...

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"Wow, I am thinking maybe I should have had a smaller celebrity."

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So, yes, many animals can be put into a trance,

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but it's probably better to practise on the ones lower down the food chain first.

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So why not consult Zoe D Katze, PhD, CHt, DAPA?

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That's a pretty good series of... I would say...

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-Anagrams.

-Hell of an anagram.

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Is she invisible? There's nobody there.

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'Your eyelids are heavy.'

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-Is she an animal hypnotherapist?

-She is an animal hypnotherapist.

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She's a cat.

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-Eh?!

-Zoe D Katze is a cat with a PhD,

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a CHt and that diploma.

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LAUGHTER

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I think Oscar is sitting opposite her.

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It's a man called Steve Eichel who is an academic

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who wanted to demonstrate the ease with which you can get

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a doctorate online or any of these apparently important professional

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Hypnotherapy Association qualifications,

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-all of which were given to a cat.

-Oh, great.

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The point is once you get one, you can use the others to parlay

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until you get a whole list of them.

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She has a doctorate in counselling psychology from a mail-order university

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and the CHt is a certified hypnotherapist -

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in the National Guild Of Hypnotists, no less -

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and the DAPA is a Diplomat of the American Psychotherapy Association,

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both qualifications which are supposed to connote genuine professional standing.

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Oh, my cat's only got a BA!

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LAUGHTER

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It is astonishing, isn't it? There are also what are called diploma mills and degree mills,

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which give out either a fake diploma from a real university

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or, as it were, a real one from a fake college that doesn't exist,

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like they make up one that says "Christ's College, Oxford" or something.

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Are those hats falling from the sky or are there hands beneath them?

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-There are.

-Is that how you get your hat? They're dropped out of a plane and you have to catch one?

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Throw it in the air at your excitement of having got a degree.

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I like to think that underneath that photo there's about 60 cats.

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Miaow!

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The thing is, that if you were a cat,

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because of the tassels, you wouldn't leave them alone, would you?

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I've got diplomas for all of you. Alan, you can put that on the wall.

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ABSO?

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Ronni, ABSO. That's a QI award.

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-Academy of Advanced Banter.

-It actually has...

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Do you get letters from the American Biographers' Association or something?

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And they say, "You have been selected as one of the men of the year..."

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-Oh, it's a scam.

-"..by the American Biographers' Association for expertise in your field."

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All you have to do is pay 700.

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And it says, yes, "If you would send 695, we'll send you a plaque."

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I've got 12.

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-LAUGHTER

-Well, there you are, yes,

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pseudo-credentialling, it's a big issue.

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Other qualifications which the same Eichel who gave Zoe the cat her...

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or managed to get her these qualifications,

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he found energy therapist qualifications easily got,

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past-life regression therapist and alien abduction therapist.

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-That's sad.

-I want to do that course.

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Yes. I'm going to get a guinea pig and make it an alien abduction therapist.

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Yes, the Zoe the cat is a cat, but that doesn't make her a bad person.

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I need your help. How can we persuade the audience to elect me Pope

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without them noticing that we've done it?

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That's odd.

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That's wrong.

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My hand is not that liver-spotted!

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I'm having that.

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You wouldn't wear such cheap cassocks either.

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No, I wouldn't either. No, that's so odd.

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Is there a technique?

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Suppose I wanted to sell them something without telling them.

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-Some sort of mass suggestion.

-Subliminal advertising.

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Subliminal advertising...

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KLAXON BLARES

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Horribly cruel of me to try and pull it out of you

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and then punish you for it.

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No, the fact is, subliminal advertising has never been shown to work. It's a complete myth.

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Although it's banned by most broadcasting authorities and the FCC in America,

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it's not actually ever been shown to work.

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In fact, the person who invented it in 1957 - a man called Vicary - in 1962

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he admitted he'd falsified the evidence.

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He claimed he'd used it and sold lots of cola and burgers

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by putting in a flash frame, a single frame out of 24 frames a second.

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Obviously the eye doesn't consciously register...

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LAUGHTER

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It just hasn't been shown to work. I remember they did one in the Young Ones.

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-They did it all the time in the Young Ones.

-Yes, they did.

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It's like going back to my childhood and I'm remembering it all now.

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-Your childhood?!

-Well...

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-Yes, Ronni, deal with it.

-LAUGHTER

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Anyway, sound - do we know any stories of audio subliminal messages?

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Oh, the court cases about "backward masking" they call it, which is, you know, satanic messages.

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-Judas Priest.

-Yes, perhaps the most alarming story was two boys

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who committed suicide, or attempted suicide,

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-and their parents took Judas Priest to court.

-They did.

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Do you know what the message was supposedly in the track?

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-It was... "Do it, do it now."

-"Do it, do it now." Yes.

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So Halford, as part of the court case, went in with a load of records

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and played them backwards and then just read out a list of things you could hear

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in records when played backwards just to show how...

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He also said, "I don't wish to paint myself as greedy,

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"but if we were going to put a message in it would be, 'Buy more of our records.'" He also said,

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"Do it doesn't mean kill yourself."

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-Stephen, the song WAS called Suicide Solution.

-Oh, was it?

-Yes.

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Finally, being in a pop quiz pays off!

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Other subliminal images have been seen, Lenin, for example, was seen by some in the Labour Party rose,

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there.

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-That's someone from Planet of the Apes.

-It's more like that, isn't it?

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But there we are. So, yes, subliminal advertising doesn't...

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work. Seriously though, I'd be very pleased.

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Anyway, what kind of behaviour would you expect from a superstitious pigeon?

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They always wear their feathers in exactly the same colour and exactly the same order every day.

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Well, it is just that sort of superstition that pigeons have been found to exhibit.

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It's quite interesting, a very well-known American psychiatrist called B F Skinner,

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he found that if you feed pigeons at predetermined intervals,

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the pigeons, because they can't predict when the food is coming,

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they seem to register what they were doing at the time the food arrived

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and repeat the action to make the food come next time, which is a very human thing.

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It's like humans blowing on dice before a game of craps.

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They would walk in anti-clockwise circles because maybe twice they were walking anticlockwise

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when the food arrived and they think that must be why the food comes.

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-That's not superstitious, that's just hopeful.

-It's superstitious.

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Last time I won this game, I was wearing one red sock and one blue, so I'll wear

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a red sock and a blue sock again, sportsmen do it all the time.

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-They repeat actions that happened before...

-People do it all the time.

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-It's called magical thinking, where you think you're having an effect on the world.

-Exactly.

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-And you're not.

-You're not.

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I can't watch this match because the last round, I didn't watch and we won.

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Or I was standing up when England scored a goal, so I've got to stand up for the rest of the match.

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-I'm going to go to the toilet now, we'll definitely score.

-All that. We do it all the time.

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-My uncle, when he lights a cigar, we always score.

-Yes, it happens to all of us.

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They're all dead now, because I killed them.

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It's almost like a form of megalomania, isn't it, in a bizarre sort of way.

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-That we could possibly affect the outcome.

-Yes.

-That is the nature of superstition.

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It's quite hard, it has to be said,

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to find any definition of superstition that doesn't also cover religion.

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It makes the same promises, the same suggestions of individual actions...

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You convince yourself you're involved

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in the world somehow - if I wear my lucky scarf, then I'm really in the game.

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-And you're just wearing a scarf.

-Yes, that's right, it is.

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And each religion will regard other religions as superstition and theirs as not being.

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I am religious, you are superstitious.

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In the Catholic Church, it is a sin to be superstitious.

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-You'll change that when you're Pope.

-I'll change that when I'm Pope, yes.

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-APPLAUSE

-No, no, stop.

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What are we going to do with the gold?

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"And as Pope Stephen walks out onto the balcony, underneath the ladder, with several black cats..."

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American psychologist B F Skinner managed to train pigeons to be superstitious

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by giving them arbitrary food rewards and keeping his fingers crossed, and best of luck to him.

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Now, what's hysterical about wandering womb trouble?

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-Wandering womb.

-Hysterical as in, that's Janet Leigh in Psycho.

-It certainly is.

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-But she didn't have a wandering womb, she was being stabbed to death by a maniac.

-She was.

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-She was hysterical for a very good reason.

-Yes. What does hysterical mean? Where does the word come from?

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'You're feeling sleepy.'

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-I think this is something to do with hysterectomies.

-Yes.

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Originally...

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The Greek word for uterus is hystera, so the word hysteria?

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Yes, it was Hippocrates also who thought

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that there was a correlation between mental un-balance and the womb becoming wandering around the body.

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He thought the womb, like an animal, moved around the female body.

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I've got a very good female friend who's a gynaecologist who was telling me.

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That is how the word hysteria came about,

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it was associated entirely with women from the same root as hysterectomy.

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-She's hysterical, slap her!

-Yes, slap her, that was the attitude that men had towards women's illnesses or

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particularly neuroses, that somehow it was to do with them being women, and women of a certain age

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were associated with all kinds of what were called hysterias, hysterical responses.

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But it was Freud who said that almost

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for every real condition, you might have a hysterical version which was created by the mind,

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but it was as real, it wasn't feigned, that's the point.

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-This was before hysterical became a synonym for hilarious?

-Yes.

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"You have a hysterical condition." "Well, it doesn't feel very hysterical to me!"

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But there is such a thing as hysterical blindness and muteness,

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people will lose the ability to see, although physically there is nothing wrong with their eyes at all.

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Anyway, hysteria, as Ronni rightly knew, used to be attributed

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to the womb roaming about the body, interfering with other organs.

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Doctors thought it would cause anything from a nervous breakdown to blindness.

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Now a question which will test your reflexes. Watch the film here of the setting sun.

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All I want you to do is to hit your buzzer at the moment the sun has dropped below the horizon.

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It's speeded up, obviously.

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'Eyelids are heavy.'

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You got there first.

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KLAXON

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Well too late! Well too late!

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That is the moment at which the sun is below the horizon.

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What we see is a mirage.

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I know it sounds crazy, but it's true.

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You're looking at me as if to say...

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-Is this to do with how far away it is?

-It's to do with

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the bending of light and the eye not accepting it, but it is genuinely below the horizon.

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Physically, the Earth has turned such that it is not there.

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I know you're looking very cross and "That can't be true!" about it.

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That's a film of it, though.

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I know, but you can get thermal mirages and there's nothing there, on the roadside, water puddles.

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You get rainbows and they're not there.

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That's a photograph, but it's not there. There's no water there, it's just air.

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I'll try and explain. Light from the setting sun passes through our atmosphere at a shallow angle

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and gradually bends as the air density increases,

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not dissimilar to the image of your legs in a swimming pool. The effect artificially raises

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the sun in the last few minutes of its decline, and by coincidence,

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the amount of bending is pretty much equal to the diameter of the sun.

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So it's exactly as it's there, but it's actually disappeared.

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-I hate this show.

-Oh, Phill!

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-Be interested, please.

-The sun is there.

-I know.

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And you're like, "No."

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"It's the sun!" "Not there. Mirage."

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Have you ever seen a mirage?

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-Yes.

-Where?

-Travelling through the desert in America, you see them all the time.

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The standard ones in the roads. What appear to be huge puddles of shimmering lakes of water,

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which are not there. You must have seen those in the roads.

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Yes, but I grew up in Scotland, and they are there.

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-Fair enough.

-In New Zealand, you get quite bad sunstrike off the roads, causes accidents.

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And what does that entail?

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Because New Zealand is so low on the planet, if you see what I mean,

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and the sun comes through quite a lot of atmosphere to get to it,

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and the angle of it when it hits the road causes a lot of blindness in the eyes of drivers.

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-Right.

-I daresay that the drivers in New Zealand, as they see

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the sun setting, are reassured to know that it's not there.

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APPLAUSE

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Yes, the fact is that despite Phill's reluctance to understand it,

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that the setting sun is actually below the horizon the moment

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that its lower edge seems to touch the sea.

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So to the place where everything you think you know proves to be an illusion,

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the nightmare that we call General Ignorance. Fingers on buzzers, please.

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What shape is this staircase?

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'Eyelids are heavy.'

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-Yes, Phill.

-It's not there.

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Now, Phill!

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APPLAUSE

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'Very sleepy.'

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Spiral.

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KLAXON

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I'm very happy for you.

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-'Eyelids are heavy.'

-It is a helix?

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Yes, it's helical, well done, exactly right.

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It's terribly pedantic, but a spiral is when it gets bigger and bigger and wider and wider,

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-and a helix, it stays the same, as a staircase does.

-(I knew that!)

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But you just wanted the forfeit, didn't you? Yes.

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So, strictly speaking, a spiral staircase is actually helical.

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So why are there so many lavatories in the Pentagon?

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Er, one each?

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-Do you know how many people work in the Pentagon?

-Thousands.

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23,000.

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There aren't 23,000 lavatories, so, no, I'm afraid it's a really ghastly reason.

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-Where is it?

-Virginia.

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Virginia is a southern state and it had laws, not nice laws.

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-Oh, no.

-Segregation. By law, you had to have one lavatory for white people

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and one for black people, so there were double the number.

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I'm afraid it's true, it's a horrible truth.

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It shouldn't have happened, because it was built in the '40s under the presidency of FDR,

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who had specifically outlawed racial segregation in federal...

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he couldn't legislate for the states but he could say that no federal building...

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So when he arrived for his first inspection, he was told,

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he was furious that there were all these lavatories.

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Well, it's not very PC, it's true, but have you ever been for a queue in the ladies' loo?

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So it's nice for you that there are so many, yes. You racist.

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But although they built them all for that reason,

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they were banned from using it and they were never racially segregated.

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Look at all the tennis courts they've got as well.

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That centre bit alone, just to give you a sense of the scale of it, is five acres, just the middle bit.

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17 and a half miles of corridor, at least 284 lavatories, six separate zip codes,

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just the Pentagon, but apparently, it takes only seven minutes to walk from one place to another.

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Only one cleaner, they have.

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Yes, poor darling.

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Name something invented by Vyacheslav Molotov.

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'Very sleepy.'

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A Molotov cocktail.

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Oh!

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KLAXON

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He didn't invent the Molotov cocktail.

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He invented the Sloe Comfortable Screw Against the Wall.

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-Which he is drinking there.

-Yes, having one right now. Pina colada.

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Well, he invented some grim things like death lists.

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The Molotov line, like the Maginot line, a defensive line, various other things.

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-He was a Bolshevik.

-He was a Bolshevik, he was the Foreign Minister under Stalin, all the way.

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He lived until 1986.

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A very exciting job, Foreign Minister under Stalin.

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-You can imagine, absolutely.

-Every day, "What are we going to do today?"

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"I don't know. Have you asked him?" "He hasn't woken up yet."

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He claimed his country, in the war against Finland, was dropping food parcels

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when it was dropping cluster bombs.

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So the Finns called them Molotov's breadbaskets, these bombs that came down.

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When they fought against the Soviet tanks... Don't forget, the Finns beat the Russians.

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It was quite an amazing war. They used petrol bombs and they said,

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"These are Molotov cocktails to go with the bread you're giving us,"

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so it was kind of their joke. But they humiliated Russia, Finland,

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-it was an extraordinary achievement.

-Very, very well done.

-Yes, very well done, Finland, absolutely.

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Which brings me to the real matter of the scores, and my goodness, are they interesting or not?

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Well, they are quite interesting.

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I'm afraid in fourth place, with minus 32, it's Robert Webb.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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And in third place with minus 17, Ronni Ancona.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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-In second place, Alan Davies with minus eight.

-Thanks very much.

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Which means our runaway winner,

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our solar sceptic with minus two, Phill Jupitus.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I'm not here.

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That's all from QI. Goodnight from Ronni, Robert, Phill, Alan and me,

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and I will leave you with this thought.

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You will tune in again next week, you will. Goodnight.

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