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Ah, good evening, good evening, good evening.

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Good evening and welcome to QI, where tonight the K is silent,

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as in knits, knots, knackers and knobs.

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Let's meet a knitwit, Sue Perkins.

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APPLAUSE

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Knot a lot, Ross Noble.

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APPLAUSE

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Slightly knackered, David Mitchell.

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APPLAUSE

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And a complete kn... say no more, Alan Davies.

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APPLAUSE

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Right. All the K's are quiet and so are their k-noises.

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Sue goes...

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Sh!

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Ross goes...

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SHEEP BLEATING

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-David goes...

-PIN DROPPING

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-That was a pin dropping. You could hear it.

-Yeah.

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-And Alan goes:

-# Silence is golden! #

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Very nice. And how many knots are there in this picture?

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# Silence is... #

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-Yes?

-Two.

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-CLAXON

-No.

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-Four?

-CLAXON

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It's a trap!

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-Well, you've got some options.

-Oh, none.

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CLAXON

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David?

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-One?

-Yes!

-APPLAUSE

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Oh, you're such a swot!

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Is it the noose, is that the only one?

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There are two hitches, a bend and a knot.

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-The one on the right is a k-noose.

-Yes.

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-A noose, but it is a knot.

-Oh, a noose is a knot?

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-A noose is a type of knot.

-A hangman's knot.

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The hitches are the first one and the third one.

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Is correct, they are hitches, and the second one is what's known as a bend.

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In everyday speech, of course, the word knot is used for all of them

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but this is QI where everyday speech is completely...

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MUMBO JUMBO

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So the highwayman's hitch, for example,

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I have an example of a highwayman's hitch.

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That's where you hitch your horse and the tighter you pull,

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the tighter it goes but when you want to get away quickly,

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-you pull the short one, da-dum!

-Oh, that is good.

-Isn't that clever?

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Does he not just run off with the stick then?

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-It's a post in the ground.

-Oh, I see, right. Sorry, yeah.

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Because if you tied up your dog to that and you went, right,

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and then threw it and the dog ran after it, a lot of confusion there.

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Yeah. Another one was called the European Death Knot,

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the Euro Death Knot, or EDK.

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Was that named by UKIP?

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It's also a one sided overhand bend.

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It's used for joining two ropes, as you can see.

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It's perfectly safe if used right, but a lot of climbers thought it wasn't safe

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and it was invented in Europe, so American climbers called it the Euro Death Knot.

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In fact it's very, very old and the 5,300-year-old man, Otzi,

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who was discovered in the Alps, dead, obviously...

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-For a moment there I thought you...

-He was preserved, preserved...

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Been there for 5,000 years and going, "Help, will somebody help!"

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He had amongst his possessions a knot tied exactly in that fashion,

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so it shows we've been doing it for a very long time.

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And that would have been before rope was invented, for sure.

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How he pulled that off..?

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And the other hitch we saw was called the snuggle hitch.

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Which is a more secure version of the better-known sailor's knot,

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the clove hitch.

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-You look at me as if I would know that.

-Sorry, I just...

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"Come on, Susan, you know the knots."

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One of the surprising things about it,

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because it looks reasonably simple,

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was that it was invented in 1987.

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Or at least that's when it was very first introduced into the International Knot Tyers Guild.

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Didn't they think they had enough knots, without inventing more?

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Yeah, I know. There are 3,800 in their...

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We're not going to go through each one of them, you'll be pleased to know.

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So that's a very specific '80s knot?

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Did somebody go, we need a way of tying down Bananarama. Now...

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It was a man called Owen Nuttall, anyway, who invented it

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and he called it the snuggle hitch.

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-NASAL SPEECH: I imagine he speaks like that.

-Well, he may.

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"Nuttall here. I invented a knot."

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The hangman's knot is named after one of the most famous

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hangmen in history, Charles II's hangman.

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-Oh, Johnny...

-It's a French guy.

-Johnny Noose.

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No. Oddly enough, his surname is a sailing vessel. Jack..?

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-Boat.

-Yacht.

-Ketch. Jack Ketch.

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Which if I'm not mistaken has a tall mast at the front

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-and a small mast at the back.

-Indeed, indeed, yes, the ketch.

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-Yeah, well, I just like to point that out.

-Well done.

-Thank you.

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This became pretty much the standard hanging noose that was used

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because it broke the neck very quickly.

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So, it was a very quick death when you dropped. The drop, as they called it.

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So, in a way, it was humane.

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It's good that you say he was an effective hangman,

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-cos if you weren't, you're essentially just a bloke that opens a door.

-Yes.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Because where was it?

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There was a place where the prisoners built the gallows

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and when you stood on a particular plank it forced the wood out

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and then the door didn't open and no-one was getting...

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Then they would test it and the door would open and then they'd go, all right.

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And then they'd put the person there and then it would push the wood

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and then it wouldn't, and they'd go, all right.

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Take him away, test it again, fine. That happened loads of times and...

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And so they decided God didn't want this person to die and let them off.

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I think that's a real thing, or I might have seen it in a Scooby Doo episode.

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I'm not sure. I'm not quite sure.

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Do they do a lot of hanging in Scooby Doo?

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-Now you come to mention it...

-No more!

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No, it's not. How would that be Scooby Doo?

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Like, like, like... IMPERSONATES SCOOBY DOO

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-Shaggy!

-That can't be Scooby Doo.

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AMERICAN ACCENT: It was Mr Ketch, the hangman, all the time.

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So, now, I want you to take one of those each,

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and tie yourselves together, as it were.

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-This has gone quite dark now.

-It has, hasn't it?

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Is it just me? It's like a party game in the '70s.

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So, put each one of those around your wrist.

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-No, no, don't undo it.

-Well, I can't get my hand through that, can I?

-Oh, sorry.

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Little cock grab, that is.

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-Cock ring!

-Try with this one.

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-Swap. You can give me that one back.

-That's more like it.

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There we are. Put your wrists through.

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That's it, and then do that, so that you're tied together.

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-OK.

-Yes, is that right?

-Is that good?

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Without undoing the knots, untie yourselves.

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DAVID: Oh, I see.

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-Don't turn around, don't turn around.

-That hasn't helped.

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DAVID: No!

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-ROSS: No, that's it, you go through there.

-Yes!

-Yes!

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No!

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Emphatically no!

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Completely not.

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I'm going back up, I'm going back over.

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Right, go, go through. Yes!

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No!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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I've got it, I've got it. Right.

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Right. I've got it. If I do a forward flip...

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Now...

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Right, let's see if we can get...

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Oh, oh.

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I think technically you are now married.

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You have let...

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I'm coming down, I'm coming down.

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You two hold it for a second and watch,

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-because I think Sue is onto something.

-OK.

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This is what we did when we were regularly handcuffed together as children.

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No, watch. You mustn't untie the knot.

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But...

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Oh.

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Yeah!

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Well done. Brilliant!

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-Have a go.

-I actually, I have no idea what you did.

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Neither do I, but I feel alone now. I liked it when we were together.

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Show them, if you can remember it.

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What's properly weird is, I've now got a purple one round there.

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-It's a magician's trick, it's a good...

-So what you have to do is, you have to make a loop.

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And then you feed the loop through.

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-What?!

-Then you go over your hand.

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No way.

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You are free.

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No, you're not!

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Is this your watch?

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APPLAUSE

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Oh, we've given up, we've given up.

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Hang on, if I take my trousers off...

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I think we have to call that a disaster.

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But well done, Sue Perkins.

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It was like playing S&M Twister.

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It was rather, wasn't it?

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It was a wonderful sight that will never leave my memory banks.

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So, why would anyone ban knitting patterns, flowers, hugs and kisses?

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This is a real ban, that is to say, a governmental ban.

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It's got a war-time feeling about it.

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-It has got a war-time feeling about it.

-Code?

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-Code is the right word.

-What, they knit in code?

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Yes.

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So in World War II you were not allowed to send abroad

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any knitting pattern, just in case there was code embedded in it.

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So you couldn't send, you know, socks to prisoners of war?

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You could send socks,

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-but not anything with a knitting pattern in it.

-Oh, right.

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Because they could be used as some sort of code.

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Open out a blanket and it says "June 6th, 1944."

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Normandy.

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Also postal chess was not allowed,

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even kisses at the bottom of letters,

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in case they had some meaning.

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Presumably messages saying where the troops are moving...

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Yes, those were obviously pretty much banned.

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Could you not have got like, you know you get knitting machines,

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could they not have made like an enigma knitting machine?

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Where it makes the jumper and then scrambles it up,

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-so that they couldn't pass the message.

-That would be very clever.

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-It's an opportunity missed.

-It is an opportunity missed.

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We have a Karen Templer, who is a QI watcher, has knitted us...

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Oh, look at that.

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And this says, in Morse code...

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"I wool always love you."

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Oh, that's cute.

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Aaah. Thank you, Karen. Bravo.

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APPLAUSE

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-Isn't that nice?

-You know what she was doing there?

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-She was indulging in a bit of four-ply.

-Hey!

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AUDIENCE LAUGH AND GROAN

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-Good night.

-Very good.

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And let's hope that it is Morse code and not Braille.

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"You'll what? Get off me!"

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Now, how can knitting be used to reduce fear, crime and disorder?

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-Well, you know if he was knitting he couldn't be holding a gun.

-Yeah.

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Well, that's true.

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It's harder to stab, shoot.

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You can only really kick people while you're knitting, can't you.

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You can stab.

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We'll come onto that, there is something called

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Extreme Knitting, which we will come to.

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It's called Guerrilla knitting, or sometimes Yarn Bombing.

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And it is actually a way to make a place more peaceful.

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It's to deter crime.

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And it was tried out in Leicester, where they hung pompoms,

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and put things round trees.

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Oh, I feel calm already. It's like a tree-warmer.

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Well, they used cosies for tree trunks, parking meters,

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even buses, and tanks has been suggested, in the military areas.

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But as I say, there's Guerrilla Knitting,

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but I alluded to it earlier, there's Extreme Knitting.

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What do you think that might be?

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Now I've got Gregg Wallace in my head going,

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"Knitting doesn't get more extreme than this!"

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"First you get a slip stitch, then comes a taste of pearl."

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Is it about doing knitting in places where you wouldn't normally,

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like driving a Formula One car, or...

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Well, sort of.

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..parachuting or something.

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The great heroine of this is one Susie Hewer,

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aged 55 at the moment of going to press.

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She has the world record for knitting a scarf

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while running a marathon.

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-Oh, that is good.

-That is impressive.

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And she's also crocheted while running a marathon too,

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and she's ridden a tandem,

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and she does it to raise money for Alzheimer's research.

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So it's all pretty good in the end.

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Yeah. I did a half marathon when I was a student,

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to raise money so that we could go to the Edinburgh Festival.

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-Well, dear me.

-Do you know how much I raised? Have a guess.

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-So that's what got you here.

-50 quid.

-70.

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-Oh, that's good.

-70 quid.

-For 13 miles.

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And then we got two grand off the Student's Union to top it up.

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-Well, it worked out all right for you, didn't it?

-Yeah.

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I would say.

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Now, what about the biggest knitted objects in the world,

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-how big are they?

-Massive.

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Yes, is the answer. Give me a...

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Thanks, I'll have a point, thank you.

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-The biggest knitted object.

-Yeah.

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Well, I've had my doubts about Venus for a long time, you know.

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Is it going to be like a suspension bridge or something,

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is a knitted object?

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In as much as it is, yes, it is a physical object

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-on which people can live.

-It's a house?

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Is the internet knitted?

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-Does it count as a huge knitted thing?

-No.

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It's a series of man-made knitted islands on the Peruvian side

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of Lake Titicaca. And there are 45 of them.

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They're from totora reeds, and there's a church on one of them.

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There are buildings and houses, people live on them.

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But they're quite...

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But the scariest thing is the size of the nanas that built them.

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Yes.

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But several hundred people live on them, they get so used to

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this rather springy surface that if they then go on land, they just,

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they can't walk, it takes them ages to get their land legs back.

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I think that's where Bez from the Happy Mondays,

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-he's from there, isn't he?

-Yeah.

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-Very good. Excellent.

-Be a great excuse, wouldn't it,

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if you turned up somewhere pissed,

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to say, "No, actually, I'm fine, I just usually live somewhere knitted.

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"And it's very odd, everything..."

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Just used to a very different surface.

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"Everything feels very wobbly, but honestly, I am a professional."

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ROSS: But the Lake Titicaca Olympic team must be amazing. Bang!

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Give me a statistic about Lake Titicaca.

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It is the biggest innuendo place in the planet.

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It's got titties and it's got caca.

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Caca, exactly. Exactly.

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Is it very, very high?

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It's the highest navigable lake in the world. That's quite right.

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Navigable means you can go in one end and out the other.

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Yes, you can get ships on it and there are many ships on it,

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and ports and things like that.

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There are higher lakes which you couldn't get a ship onto.

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Not been made more navigable by loads of knitted islands.

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-Yes, they get in the way.

-Yes.

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So, anyway, now for a new round. What Katydid.

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Here are five creatures and five names.

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I want you to match the creature to the name.

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Oh, right, OK.

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There's a dragon-headed, a spike headed, a horned,

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a mimicking snout-nosed and a small hooded, and they're all called?

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-Sheila.

-No, no, they're called katydids.

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Why might they be called a katydid?

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A "cat-idid?"

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No, it is actually pronounced katydid.

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It's because supposedly the sound

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they make by stridulating their wings is "katydid, katydidn't."

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I don't know, we haven't got a recording of it,

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so I can't help you.

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Katydid, katydidn't.

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Let's show the answers in a colour-coded sort of way.

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-Well, there you can see...

-The dragon-head.

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But they're strange creatures.

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And the most impressive, in some ways, is the small hooded,

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which as you see is the purple one, which looks like a leaf.

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We're looking at it very closely and it's moving, but it wasn't

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discovered till 2010, it's lived for millennia and it's not even rare.

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It's in Australia.

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It's because its camouflage is so astonishing, the mottling

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of the leaves and everything else is such that people just don't see it.

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That's the longest game of hide and seek.

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-Yes, that's ever been ever played.

-Finally!

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Eventually someone, "Look, what's that little blighter in there?

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"That's an animal, it's alive."

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"Oh, you got me, you got me!"

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It would be a terrifying thing, actually suddenly to, you know, that

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things that we've been looking at for ages turn out to be animals.

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-Yes.

-You know, that you're suddenly looking at four trees

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-and suddenly realise, "Oh, no, they're legs."

-Yes.

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There's another katydid which does a really extraordinary thing,

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it's a record in the animal kingdom, as far as we know,

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it's the male Tuberous bush cricket.

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It has the largest testicles for their weight of any animal.

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That's 14% of their body mass.

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-14%?

-14%.

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-Gonads.

-It enables them to fertilise as many females as possible.

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They do this by inserting a jelly-like package, called...

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Why are you looking at me?

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I'm sorry, called a spermatophore, into the female.

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But the back end of this spermatophore,

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this bulging packet of spermatazoic jelly,

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there's too much of it, it bulges out

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and the female reaches back and eats it for lunch.

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LAUGHTER

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So it's a romantic dinner for one, so it's a double little present.

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Yes. Only a man could say that.

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The thing about that...

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40%...yes?

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The thing about that as a creature though,

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cos it's got such massive balls, like when you film it close up,

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it must go like, it must leap and go, oh!

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Quick, oh!

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Oh, the agony.

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Every time it lands, it's just, ooh.

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Where's the penis? Is the penis massive?

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I don't think the penis is as massive as the testes.

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Just a little thing like that, and then two great melons.

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Yeah. It's really...

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That's quite a powerful squirt, you'd have thought.

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-She could be a mile away.

-Yeah.

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Well, there you are, there's your katydid.

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What's the longest distance of mating in the animal kingdom?

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-What is?

-Yeah.

-Gosh, I don't know.

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Some fish put the eggs and then the male fish comes along later...

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-By post.

-They don't even meet.

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Oh, that's true. You could send by post, I suppose.

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Can you?

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Well, there's the ninja slug.

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No, this is a real thing.

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A ninja slug?

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The ninja slug, and when it's doing the loving,

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-it er... Yeah, I'm like a proper expert.

-The slug loving.

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Wax on, wax off.

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Yeah, slug loving.

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And then instead of getting involved,

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it comes up and then it fires like all the necessaries towards

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the lady slug, and she "hoof", and then, I don't know what it's called.

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-Catches it?

-Sort of, yeah.

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But she leans backward to catch it?

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I don't think she's got hands,

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but she, she sort of... That's the thing with a slug,

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if you rush a slug like that, they don't go, "Urgh," they just,

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"Oh." And then, yeah. Go like that.

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Oh, it's that bit, on the... yes.

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Wah!

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-And then, yeah.

-Are you saying it's like the meat and two veg detach?

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-Yeah. Takes it off...

-And fires, takes it off and fires it at a...

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Takes it off and it... Again, I'm not sure where I found this out.

0:19:350:19:38

Scooby Doo.

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That is definitely Scooby Doo.

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It sort of, its bits go, and then it, woo, like that. And then it...

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I definitely seen that on Scooby Doo.

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And then she's, I think she's like that, "Wey!"

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And she's basically like a goalkeeper, just readying herself.

0:19:480:19:50

Exactly. Yeah, honestly, it's like an explosion in an Ann Summers.

0:19:500:19:54

Well, that's terrific, well done.

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There's nothing worse, though,

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when this slug comes towards the lady and she dives the wrong way.

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That is, oh!

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Nightmare.

0:20:030:20:04

Moving on, moving on from the enormous knackers of the katydid.

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What can you tell me about the royal knackers?

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Well, I imagine they're pretty toastie right now.

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Is it where royal horses are killed?

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The Royal Knacker's Yard?

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Well, yes, they don't any longer have a Royal Knacker's yard,

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but they used to.

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There was of course, in the Victorian age, and earlier,

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a great need to get rid of horses who had died,

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and to make the most of them.

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And they went to knacker's yards. And there was...

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And thence into lasagne.

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And they were made into all kinds of things.

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And the royal knacker was one John Atcheler,

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who had the royal warrant from Queen Victoria, to knacker her horses.

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And he was the official horse slaughterer.

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He had two knacker's yards.

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The first was in Sharp's Alley near Smithfield

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and then later near Kings Cross, at Belle Isle.

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And they were famously malodorous, you wouldn't want to live near them.

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Huge, huge copper vats filled with horses being rendered down.

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But here from 1844 is an extract from Bentley's Miscellany,

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"The knacker's cart arrives in double quick,

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"The mob admires the cart, the royal arms and the inscription:

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"'Knacker to Her Majesty.'

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"The royal knacker, a swell knacker in cords and tops,

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"with a bit of butcher's apron, just as big as a bishop's,

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"merely to distinguish his profession,

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"pole-axe in hand, descends from his vehicle."

0:21:250:21:28

-Well, that's pageantry.

-That's pageantry, isn't it, exactly.

0:21:280:21:31

That's what I want to see televised, David Dimbleby doing

0:21:310:21:34

the commentary, "The slaughtering of the royal horse."

0:21:340:21:37

Absolutely.

0:21:370:21:38

It wouldn't be David Dimbleby though, it would be Fearne Cotton.

0:21:380:21:41

I'm afraid it would, wouldn't it?

0:21:410:21:43

People would say, "They've ruined the horse slaughtering this year."

0:21:430:21:46

"They've trivialised the knackering."

0:21:460:21:47

"It used to be so respectful."

0:21:470:21:49

There was so much pomp and circumstance.

0:21:490:21:50

Explain what bit of the horse was bubbling up to the top now,

0:21:500:21:53

is it a bollock, is it an eye?

0:21:530:21:55

-Yes.

-But they don't know now, these new presenters.

0:21:550:21:58

Well, if anyone from Leeds tells you to eat kicker, what should you do?

0:21:590:22:05

Run away, because that's Kicker there.

0:22:050:22:07

You can see we're still in the world of meat.

0:22:090:22:11

Is it horse?

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It is actually just plain horse, yes, it's horse.

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And Yorkshire was the last place really to eat horse

0:22:140:22:18

on a major scale in Britain.

0:22:180:22:20

Until quite recently.

0:22:200:22:21

Well...

0:22:210:22:23

But of course recently there have been a few scandals

0:22:230:22:26

which mean we've probably all been eating horse.

0:22:260:22:28

That dark brown horse has the hair of Tina Turner.

0:22:280:22:30

You're spot-on.

0:22:370:22:38

What you're looking at here is the entire line-up of Horse Kajagoogoo.

0:22:380:22:42

You're absolutely right.

0:22:440:22:45

It's really spooky, that.

0:22:450:22:47

Well, horse was very popular right up until the first millennium,

0:22:470:22:49

until Gregory III, the Pope, deemed it too pagan.

0:22:490:22:52

But the Scandinavians had always loved eating horse

0:22:520:22:55

and the greatest Scandinavian, as it were,

0:22:550:22:57

presence in Britain was in Yorkshire.

0:22:570:22:59

And so it remained as a tradition to eat horse

0:22:590:23:02

right up until really the '30s.

0:23:020:23:04

And the last butcher selling horse in the county was Arnold Drury

0:23:040:23:08

in Doncaster, who died in 1951.

0:23:080:23:11

He proudly advertised "Viande Cheval,"

0:23:110:23:14

meat horse, "of super quality horseflesh."

0:23:140:23:18

And other butchers called it kicker, more euphemistically.

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And in the 19th century, rural Yorkshire folk who moved to the city

0:23:220:23:25

were known as kicker eaters.

0:23:250:23:27

I've eaten horse.

0:23:280:23:29

-Well, most of us have, apparently, without knowing it.

-Yes.

0:23:290:23:32

Isn't it odd how we rebel at the idea of things

0:23:320:23:35

that we're not used to.

0:23:350:23:37

You know, we are totally used to drinking the proteinous

0:23:370:23:41

fatty stuff that comes out of an alien animal,

0:23:410:23:44

that is designed to make its calf double in weight every week,

0:23:440:23:48

and we're perfectly happy,

0:23:480:23:49

skull it back and go, that's all right, I'm eating a cow's milk.

0:23:490:23:52

But even more so...

0:23:520:23:53

But someone says eat a horse's milk, you go, "Ugh!"

0:23:530:23:55

Even more so than that, when my sister-in-law

0:23:550:23:57

expressed some breast milk and kept it in the fridge,

0:23:570:24:00

and her brother came in and drank it...

0:24:000:24:03

It made everyone feel a bit unwell, but no-one quite knows why.

0:24:030:24:06

Well, exactly, because it's a lot more...

0:24:060:24:08

-Clearly it's designed for human consumption.

-Precisely,

0:24:080:24:11

much more than cow or horse milk is.

0:24:110:24:12

I tell you what, it makes a lovely rice pudding.

0:24:120:24:15

-It really does.

-But wasn't there a shop selling...

0:24:150:24:18

-Breast milk ice cream.

-Yeah.

0:24:180:24:20

We should all try lots of different animals' milk.

0:24:200:24:22

I'm very happy to try horse milk.

0:24:220:24:24

-I had some of that breast milk ice cream.

-Did you?

0:24:240:24:26

Yeah. I was on a television programme

0:24:260:24:29

and they brought it round as a gimmick, I didn't seek it out.

0:24:290:24:31

No.

0:24:310:24:32

And it tasted completely like normal ice cream.

0:24:320:24:35

I thought you were going to say completely like tits.

0:24:350:24:38

-Yeah, it tasted very, very strongly of tits.

-Very breasty.

0:24:390:24:41

No, it tasted very much like dog or horse milk, in fact.

0:24:410:24:44

Well, the most famous 19th century Royal Knacker was Jack Atcheler,

0:24:440:24:48

responsible for dealing with 26,000 horses a year.

0:24:480:24:52

Now, what should you watch out for when handling these?

0:24:520:24:56

It's roses, rose stems.

0:24:570:24:59

Oh, is it, is it old women with secateurs?

0:24:590:25:01

Yeah, well, that's one thing.

0:25:010:25:03

What else might harm you if you try to pick them?

0:25:030:25:06

The thorny bit?

0:25:060:25:07

KLAXON SOUNDS

0:25:070:25:09

-No, roses don't have thorns.

-Not a thorn?

0:25:090:25:12

Well, they do, it's a known...

0:25:120:25:14

Thorn bushes have, thorn bushes have roses, is that it?

0:25:140:25:16

-Is it a trick?

-No, on roses they're called?

0:25:160:25:19

-Prickles.

-Prickles, well done. Absolutely right...

0:25:190:25:21

-They prick you.

-They're not thorns.

0:25:210:25:23

A thorn is a very specific thing, botanically.

0:25:230:25:26

Thorns are modified branches or stems,

0:25:260:25:28

and prickles are part of a plant's skin, which is what those are.

0:25:280:25:31

They come out from it.

0:25:310:25:32

So when Bon Jovi sang Every Rose Has A Thorn...

0:25:320:25:35

-They were lying.

-He's made an absolute fool of himself.

0:25:350:25:37

They did.

0:25:370:25:39

# Every rose has a prickle #

0:25:390:25:40

That would be great, wouldn't it, if you went to a Bon Jovi gig, and

0:25:400:25:42

# Every rose has a... #

0:25:420:25:44

Whoop! Whoop! Whoop! And the QI thing went off...

0:25:440:25:48

We've got to invite him on the show, absolutely right.

0:25:480:25:51

So let's see if we've learned something tonight.

0:25:510:25:53

I'm going to show you something and tell me,

0:25:530:25:55

is there a thorn in this picture?

0:25:550:25:56

-Er, there's not one on the rose.

-No.

0:26:000:26:04

KLAXON SOUNDS

0:26:040:26:05

Oh, God!

0:26:050:26:06

Well, you said no, didn't you?

0:26:060:26:08

But you were more accurate. You said there's not one on the rose.

0:26:080:26:11

But isn't there one on the crown?

0:26:110:26:13

-No, there isn't one on the crown either.

-One on the grass?

0:26:130:26:16

Oh, Alan, you were the only person on the programme

0:26:160:26:19

when we covered this.

0:26:190:26:21

There is no such thing as Ye Olde Rose and Crown,

0:26:210:26:23

it's THE Old Rose and Crown, and the letter Y is called a...?

0:26:230:26:27

-Thorn.

-Thorn.

0:26:270:26:29

The letter is the thorn.

0:26:290:26:32

-So the Y is called?

-A thorn, yes.

0:26:320:26:34

-A thorn.

-It's a "th" sound.

0:26:340:26:35

When you see that, you don't say YE, you say THE.

0:26:350:26:37

THE. So when people say ye olde, they're completely wrong, it's THE.

0:26:370:26:41

I will never get it wrong again.

0:26:410:26:43

So you no longer have to say Ye Olde Tea Shop, it's The Olde Tea Shop.

0:26:430:26:46

What if you open a new one?

0:26:460:26:49

How does that...?

0:26:490:26:51

Then just call it The New Tea Shop.

0:26:510:26:53

Now, who fancies one of my Knick Knacks to celebrate

0:26:540:26:58

the beauty of chemistry?

0:26:580:27:00

I've got a bottle here of alcohol, but this is not drinking alcohol.

0:27:000:27:03

-I'm just going to...

-That was full at the start of tonight.

0:27:030:27:06

What I'm going to do is, I'm going to make a cloud,

0:27:060:27:09

which I think you'll find is rather exciting.

0:27:090:27:11

I've got a pump here, and Alan, I'm going to ask you to pump for me,

0:27:110:27:14

-would you?

-Every Monday.

0:27:140:27:16

That's it.

0:27:160:27:18

By doing this I'm just making it evaporate a little, and I'm going

0:27:190:27:22

to stick the plunger in as soon as I can, so I don't get too much.

0:27:220:27:24

Now, by pumping it in, you're applying pressure to this,

0:27:240:27:27

-there you go.

-Shall I pump? About ten.

0:27:270:27:29

Two, three, four, five,

0:27:290:27:32

six, seven, eight, nine, ten. That'll do.

0:27:320:27:37

Is it going to blow up? Is it going to explode?

0:27:370:27:39

-And...

-Oh!

-Cloud.

0:27:390:27:40

-Oh, look at that.

-I've made a cloud.

0:27:400:27:42

But, pop it in.

0:27:440:27:46

APPLAUSE

0:27:460:27:47

We can now make it disappear.

0:27:490:27:51

Gone cloud.

0:27:540:27:57

Come back, cloud!

0:27:570:27:58

Oh, isn't that exciting?

0:28:000:28:02

All of which brings us to the scores,

0:28:040:28:07

and our winner tonight on minus six is David Mitchell.

0:28:070:28:11

HE MOUTHS: Minus six.

0:28:110:28:12

In a very respectable second place on minus nine, is Ross Noble.

0:28:150:28:19

Who knew?

0:28:220:28:23

Improving all the time, in third place, with minus 17,

0:28:230:28:27

Alan Davies.

0:28:270:28:28

But tonight's frayed knicker elastic is Sue Perkins on minus 22.

0:28:330:28:37

Well, that's all from Sue, David, Ross, Alan and me.

0:28:440:28:50

Good night.

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