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Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101, the show where

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three guests battle to banish their betes noires to the notorious vault.

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Let's meet this week's guests.

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Joining me tonight are Pointless know-it-all Richard Osman,

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broadcaster Joan Bakewell, and comedian Roisin Conaty.

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Right, then, let's have our first category.

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Nature.

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So I'd like to see what Joan Bakewell doesn't like about nature.

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Gardening.

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Oh.

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Gardening. This represents my feelings about gardening.

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LAUGHTER

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-Brilliant.

-Who could like it after that?

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That cost four grand!

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I think it was worth it. So, what is it, Joan?

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Well, gardening is housework out of doors. There's no difference.

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Now, housework indoors has been streamlined, so it doesn't require

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as much effort as it once did, but gardening, you've got to get down

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on your knees on rubber mats that don't protect your knees,

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you've got to wear clumsy gloves,

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you've got hedge trimmers and wheelbarrows.

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It's hard work. It's too hard work.

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They don't reward the effort you put into it.

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What about if you grow vegetables?

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Then they... That's the gift that keeps on giving.

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It's still hard work.

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It's just easier to buy them at the shop, you know.

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Some people love it, though, don't they?

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Well, yes, but they love all sorts of strange things.

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That is true. That's a whole other show, though, Joan.

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Yeah, and it's probably on a bit later at night.

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I just quite like that gardening is one of those things that we

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haven't managed to make faster.

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You buy something and say, "That is going to look lovely in May.

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"That's going to look amazing."

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You're going, "The rest of the year, it's just going to look like just some shrub."

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It'll look lovely for a month. You think, "I'm going to put all that effort in, just for a month?"

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A load of twigs, standing there, doing nothing.

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That's everything in life. That's like, "Oh, I'm just going to

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"cook this dinner and then eat it. Huh, what a waste of time."

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"Shouldn't fall in love with this person.

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"I won't be in love in ten years." Everything's only for a month.

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Well, that's my second and third choice gone now.

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A friend of mine was saying the other day someone knocked

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on his door and said, "Have you lost your wallet?"

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-He said, "I just saw a fox steal it."

-What?

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And the fox had walked into his front door, got up

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onto this thing, taken it,

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and walked down the road with his wallet.

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I bet you that was foxy bingo.

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LAUGHTER

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Anyway, let's see what Richard Osman doesn't like about nature.

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This is zoo filler.

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Now, what is zoo filler?

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Zoo filler is all the rubbish animals in the zoo.

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LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

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When you go to a zoo, historically,

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there's only five animals you go to the zoo to see.

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There used to be four, there's now five.

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You go to a zoo to see the lions, to see the tigers,

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to see the monkeys, to see the penguins, and now,

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in the last five or six years, to see the meerkats.

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And that's it.

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And everywhere around those five animals

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they've got all sorts of things.

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They've got fish. You want to see a pike?

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So, hold on, I've got a lion over here, and a tiger over here.

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I tell you what, why don't I spend ten minutes looking at a pike?

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And before you get to the monkey enclosure,

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they've got a moth exhibit. You might go and see the moths.

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You just think, zoos know they can't just have five animals

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because that's not a day out and they can't charge you £23.50.

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They know that. So they pack the stuff with stoats and stuff.

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They could hide them.

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If they hid the big five and you had to seek them out,

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that would be a day out.

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The truth is they do cos you go along to a zoo, you never see

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a lion or a tiger because they're asleep 20 hours a day.

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The one animal that's not sleeping is the Amazonian stoat.

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He's awake the whole time. "Come and look at me."

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Not interested. Even when you're being fed, we're not interested.

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You didn't mention giraffes. They're essential.

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-Do you think?

-Oh, yeah.

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Oh, what's the point?

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-They're very tall, that's the point.

-Yeah, but you know what?

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Who isn't these days?

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LAUGHTER

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I think I've gone into the zoo in the past thinking,

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"I want to see the monkeys".

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I went to Cotswold Wildlife Park, and I went specifically to see

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the monkeys, and then I saw a giant tortoise,

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which I wouldn't normally expect to see,

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and I was really excited about it. It was really massive.

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It's kind of like when you watch... When I first started watching

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Pointless, I watched it for Alexander Armstrong,

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and then it turned out there was another creature on it.

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I like some of the signs that you get in zoos.

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What about this? My favourite ever "danger" sign.

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LAUGHTER

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Oh, how wonderful.

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-It makes it look like fun, whatever's happening.

-Well...

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Unless you're the one in the wheelchair.

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I like to think the crocodile has burped and she's going uphill.

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LAUGHTER

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Here's a thing, now, how are you with snakes?

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-Do you find those exciting?

-God, no. Snakes, you stand for ten minutes, going,

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"Where is it? Is that it in the back?"

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Cos they're so well camouflaged, and then you see it and think, "Oh, there it is."

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-They don't move.

-They are asleep for 22 hours a day, snakes.

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Yeah. Here's a long...a long snake.

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AUDIENCE GASPS

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That was great from the crowd.

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Some proper physical jumping in their seats.

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Oh, my God.

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Do you like the shop at the zoo? That's always a good bit.

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I do like the shop. It's interesting, you know, the cuddly toys they get,

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they are lions, tigers, penguins, monkeys and meerkats.

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They're not doing cuddly toys of the moths.

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This is my own personal favourite at London Zoo.

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LAUGHTER

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If you saw me coming from behind a hedgerow,

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could you possibly think I was a lion?

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That would certainly scare the foxes.

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OK, then. So what doesn't Roisin like about nature?

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AUDIENCE COOS

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The most predictable reaction of the evening.

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-Bambi.

-OK.

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I think Bambi should go in Room 101,

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because Bambi was the first cartoon that started off a whole

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generation of sad cartoons, and I hate sad cartoons.

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Life's hard enough for kids, as you get older,

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and I think children don't need to see animals dying on-screen.

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People say it's good for them, it teaches them about the horrors of the world. It doesn't.

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As you get older, if you lose a parent, you don't go,

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"Oh, I'm glad I watched Bambi.

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"Really, I knew what was going to happen".

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It just gives you a really horrible

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afternoon with children who have no sort of coping skills.

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I was looking after some of my friends' children,

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and I thought we'd watch The Lion King, and I fell asleep and woke

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up to four six-year-olds screaming, "Mufasa's dead, Mufasa's dead!"

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Spoiler alert!

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So, yeah, I think Bambi should go in Room 101.

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Well, in case... Has anyone here...not seen Bambi?

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Oh, you've never seen Bambi.

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The bit that everyone talks about is when Bambi's mum gets it early on.

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-So...

-I was gonna watch it this evening.

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No, it's very early on. It's the sort of thing they put

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in the trailer.

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So, what's happened is

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they're out and they're in the forest

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and then we hear the sound of the hunter and the gun goes,

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and they both run away and then Bambi stops,

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looks over his shoulder

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and realises that Mummy isn't with him any more.

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BAMBI: Mother?

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Mother!

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Your mother can't be with you any more.

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Can I point out that that is Bambi's father that appears at the end

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and says, "Your mother can't be with you any more."

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If I'm Bambi, I'm thinking, "Oh, that's it?

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"That's the announcement of my mother's death? Thanks, Dad!"

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There's no sense of him preparing for a life as a single parent.

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-It's just off.

-Did the dad killed the mum, is that the story?

-No...

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LAUGHTER

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-It's not domestic violence.

-Is it not? Is it definitely not?

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It's a hunter. She was shot by a hunter.

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Yeah, I think that's the Tarantino version.

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Do we know that the hunter was not a hired hit man, for example?

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-Is it cleared up in the film?

-I wouldn't rule it out, anything.

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I wouldn't rule it out. Put it in room 101.

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I mean, it's desperately sad.

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And the music isn't helping, is it?

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Disney usually do Heigh-Ho or something.

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-Even if you had your eyes shut you'd be crying.

-Yeah.

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I think it's fair to say Heigh-Ho would've been inappropriate.

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The dwarfs dragging the carcass...

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LAUGHTER

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I went to see Bambi when I was six years old.

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And you're protected as a child from, sort of,

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all of the horrors of the world. And I watched this.

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I'd never come across anything bad happening.

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And then I just thought, "I've obviously missed a bit.

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"The mum hasn't come back,"

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cos the stuff I was allowed to watch was the mum comes back.

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So I left the cinema in bits.

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And then I persuaded my nan to take me back the next week

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cos I thought, "I need to see the bit where the mum comes back."

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-So I went three times expecting...

-What?

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I persuaded different members of my family I had to go

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-and see Bambi again.

-Did you cry every time?

-Every time.

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You kept going back? Oh, it's like Cheryl with Ashley Cole.

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LAUGHTER

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I cried at Lady and the Tramp.

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There's a bit in that where the dog gets run over.

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And I really did cry at that.

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Also, I went to see Liza Minnelli Live.

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And she sang Lady and the Tramp.

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And I really annoyed everyone around me

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cos I couldn't resist doing the dog-based backing vocals.

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So, she went,

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# He's a tramp. # and I went, "Ruff-ruff-ruff!"

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LAUGHTER

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And I knew I was doing, but you know the chorus when they go,

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# He's a tr-a-a-a-a-a-mp. #

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It's impossible for me to listen to it.

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Anyway, look, I think you've all argued your cases very well.

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I think gardening now is something that I'm thinking I'm going

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to move towards, as I reach a certain age where

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gardening seems apt.

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And I like the idea of being close to the land,

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-and all that.

-Yes.

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-So I'm not going to put gardening in, Joan.

-Right.

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And I feel sorry for those animals.

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Just because they're not in the headlines.

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They're like character actors.

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I feel sorry for them. It's the zoos I'm having a go at, not the animals.

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I learn - I go to the zoo and I meet an animal I wasn't expecting

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and then I go away and I Google it.

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And that's fun, for me.

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But I agree, I think so much can happen in a cartoon film.

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You can make animals talk and all wondrous things.

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Why not just give them one little place in their lives

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where bad stuff doesn't happen?

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So, I am going to put Bambi into Room 101.

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APPLAUSE

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OK, let's have our next category, please.

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It is modern life.

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What doesn't Richard Osman like about modern life?

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It's cobblers, Frank.

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It's cobblers, because they shouldn't exist in modern life.

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You know, by and large, the high street,

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you sort of know what shops are for.

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What on earth is the cobbler doing there?

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What are they up to?

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Given nobody has had a pair of shoes fixed since about 1967...

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what's going on in that shop?

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Well, let's... How many people here would go

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and have their shoes fixed at the cobblers?

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We'll have a show of... Show of feet. Show of feet. That's loads.

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Richard, you've got it all wrong, loads of people go to the cobblers.

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Do you know what? I'm choosing not to look.

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LAUGHTER

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OK, then. Why are people having their shoes fixed?

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What's going on in the world? No-one is wearing expensive enough shoes...

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-Expensive shoes last for ever.

-You don't wear high-heels...do you?

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To be fair, they haven't invented the ceiling yet that would

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allow me to wear high-heels.

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You need to have heels renewed quite often.

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Anyway, I don't think enough people are getting their shoes fixed

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that these people are funding their shops,

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so I'm deeply suspicious, is all I'm saying.

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-Oh, they could be a front.

-Well, of course they're a front.

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I think it's a given they're a front,

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but what are they a front for?

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-A lot of cobblers also fix keys.

-I know they do.

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And that's part of my theory.

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They're a front for cutting keys!

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Oh, Frank. How naive.

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What are the two things that cobblers' shops actually do? What do they actually do?

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They cut your keys and they make house signs for you.

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OK? So you're spending hundreds of pounds

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making your house as secure as you possibly want, burglar alarms,

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fitting all sorts of lock.

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You're then going along to a man who pretends to fix shoes,

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who you don't know, you're saying, "Here are my keys.

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"I'll be back in an hour.

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"And while I'm here, could you make a big,

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"idiosyncratic sign to show you exactly where I live?"

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And we wonder how they're funding themselves.

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And then they wear your own shoes to burgle your house,

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so they can't trace the footprints.

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-Exactly.

-It's like the best episode of The Wire EVER.

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-Can I ask a personal question?

-Of course you can.

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-What size shoe do you take?

-I take a 14.

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AUDIENCE GASPS

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How lovely to get a gasp for your shoe size.

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So I'd have thought...

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Are they quite hard to find, size 14s?

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Well, I tend to sort of leave them by the door, so it's...

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LAUGHTER

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OK. Well, I'm worried about cobblers, but you argue it well.

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So, what doesn't Roisin like about modern life?

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Me.

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Selfies.

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Yes.

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Er, "selfie" is a word used for people who take

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photos of themself relentlessly and put them online.

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I don't mind a selfie where people sort of look ridiculous,

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-but the sort of vain... Like that...

-Yeah, thanks.

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But the sort of need people have to sort of document their own

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existence to the point now they just take photos of themselves

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looking nice, and, sort of, you have lots of young teenage girls

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sort of pulling that face, doing that.

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And anyone over 40 does take one like this,

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sort of just looking into it.

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And you know what's really upsetting,

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is these people have got, like, 5,000 followers on Twitter,

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and yet no-one to take a photo of them.

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It's like at least have the decency to hide your own arm

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so it looks like you were with someone

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and someone else thought your dress was nice enough to photo.

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-You can actually crop the pictures...

-Totally.

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-..and get your arm off.

-It's the lack of intelligence that upsets me the most about selfies.

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You know that famous Van Gogh self-portrait?

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If you actually looked at the original version of that...

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LAUGHTER

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..that was actually a selfie.

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Are you familiar with "hot dogs or legs"?

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Sorry?

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Hot dogs or legs.

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-Are we familiar with hot dogs?

-I'm familiar with both of those things but not as an option.

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Not "Are you familiar with either hot dogs or legs,"

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the phenomenon of "hot dogs or legs"? No.

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It's a selfie-based phenomenon.

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So, what you have to do, people take a photo of themselves, maybe,

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and you have to guess whether it is their legs or whether it's hot dogs.

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Let me show you an example.

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LAUGHTER

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It's tricky, isn't it? I'll show you another one.

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You'll get this one.

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-What do you think?

-Hot dogs.

-Yes.

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I think they've used the napkin to try and create a skirt...

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Yeah. Went too far.

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..to fool us.

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This last one really... This confuses me.

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I think that that's a leg and a hot dog.

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LAUGHTER

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-Because...

-Yeah, it's a leg on the left, isn't it?

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Yeah, that one on the right, you don't get a thighbone that

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bends in like that normally.

0:18:220:18:23

-I think that's legs.

-I think that's legs.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:18:230:18:27

Can I just say - why are we doing the rest of the show?

0:18:270:18:29

Can we not just do this for half an hour?

0:18:290:18:32

I think I have a problem with photos in general.

0:18:320:18:34

-Really?

-Yeah, I think we take too many photos to try

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and document everything all the time. That's a whole other Room 101.

0:18:380:18:41

When people come back from holiday, I'll give you a piece of advice -

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if they've got photos, tell them to choose their best three.

0:18:440:18:46

I'm not going through 100 photos.

0:18:460:18:50

Choose your best three, think about it, then I'll have a look.

0:18:500:18:53

One good thing about the selfie is I used to send texts for various

0:18:560:19:01

-reasons to various people.

-Oh, dear.

-Uh-oh.

-No!

0:19:010:19:04

And then I thought, actually, I can save myself a lot of texting time.

0:19:040:19:07

I sort of use selfies in order to send messages.

0:19:070:19:11

So I've got a few examples that I use.

0:19:110:19:14

"I'm sorry I'm running late."

0:19:140:19:16

"Thanks for dinner."

0:19:190:19:20

And I haven't actually used this one yet, but I've got it in waiting.

0:19:230:19:27

Here it is. This is, "I'm having a heart attack".

0:19:270:19:30

They've saved me a hell of a lot of time, I must say.

0:19:350:19:38

Anyway, what doesn't Joan like about modern life?

0:19:380:19:41

Customer service surveys.

0:19:470:19:50

-Hmm.

-No options. None of the options that we want.

0:19:500:19:55

You're given options from - disappointing, good,

0:19:550:19:59

very good, brilliant.

0:19:590:20:00

What you want to tell them is fired up with real hatred

0:20:000:20:05

of what the experience has been like, and there's no scope for that.

0:20:050:20:09

They only want you to tick these boxes, there's no human emotion here.

0:20:090:20:13

Most people don't do these surveys at all,

0:20:130:20:16

so the people who have sent this round get a distorted view

0:20:160:20:19

that everybody has to tick something, so they tick "good",

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and they say, "This product is an absolute hit with the public."

0:20:230:20:27

It's completely deluded.

0:20:270:20:29

Isn't it nice that they care about our opinion?

0:20:290:20:32

No, they don't care. It's a marketing ploy.

0:20:320:20:35

If they cared they wouldn't... This is advertising speak.

0:20:350:20:39

This is to placate the managing director.

0:20:390:20:42

This is to please the shareholders.

0:20:420:20:43

This is nothing to do with the service they give you.

0:20:430:20:46

They want praise.

0:20:460:20:48

Everybody wants praise, but this is a deluded way of going about it,

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because you convince people you're running a successful business

0:20:510:20:54

when all your customers are furious with the lack of standards.

0:20:540:20:59

So, in the interests of consumers I think these should go in Room 101.

0:20:590:21:04

APPLAUSE

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This is my favourite ever complaint in a cafe or restaurant.

0:21:070:21:11

That's written in ketchup and mustard.

0:21:110:21:15

Wow.

0:21:150:21:17

That's what they call complaining with relish.

0:21:170:21:19

Can I end this on a happy note?

0:21:220:21:24

On the subject of customer service, I love this.

0:21:240:21:28

A man took his eight-year-old son on holiday to the Ritz Carlton Hotel

0:21:280:21:33

in Florida, and when he left they forgot his cuddly toy, Joshy.

0:21:330:21:39

The child was in bits, and the dad said,

0:21:390:21:43

"Well, the thing is, Joshy, you know, he's getting on now.

0:21:430:21:47

"He's having a vacation on his own."

0:21:470:21:49

So then he desperately phoned the hotel and said, "Is Joshy there?"

0:21:490:21:53

They said, "Yeah, we've got it."

0:21:530:21:54

And he said, "OK, well, can you hold on to it for a few days,

0:21:540:21:57

"cos I've told him that Joshy's on vacation?"

0:21:570:22:00

And they sent back a series of pictures of Joshy enjoying

0:22:000:22:06

the hotel facilities.

0:22:060:22:08

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:22:100:22:12

LAUGHTER

0:22:170:22:19

So, you know what? I love that story.

0:22:210:22:24

OK. So, I don't feel I can put cobblers in, Richard.

0:22:240:22:32

I just think we'll miss them.

0:22:320:22:34

And selfies, as I think I've proved,

0:22:340:22:36

can be a great practical boon in life.

0:22:360:22:39

But I can see little or no good, you've argued it so well, Joan,

0:22:390:22:43

I am going to put customer service surveys into Room 101.

0:22:430:22:47

Next category, please.

0:22:590:23:01

Oh, it's the Audience Choice.

0:23:060:23:08

So, it means that someone here tonight has got something

0:23:080:23:11

they want to stick into Room 101.

0:23:110:23:13

I think Margaret Wynne should be here tonight.

0:23:130:23:16

Are you there, Margaret?

0:23:160:23:18

-Hello, Margaret.

-Hello.

-Now, what would you like to put into Room 101?

0:23:180:23:22

Well, I'd like to put in Room 101 people who pronounce the letter H

0:23:220:23:29

'haitch.'

0:23:290:23:30

APPLAUSE

0:23:300:23:33

Is this commonplace, this, Margaret?

0:23:360:23:38

It is quite common, yes.

0:23:380:23:40

OK. It's a bit of a trap, though, isn't it,

0:23:400:23:42

H, in that everything suggests it should be a 'h'

0:23:420:23:47

cos we've learnt so much from H that there should be a 'h'.

0:23:470:23:50

-And then, of all the letters not to have a 'h', it's H.

-Yes.

0:23:500:23:57

I think it's brought it on itself, in so many ways.

0:23:570:24:00

Yeah, but you wouldn't say 'wouble U,' would you?

0:24:000:24:03

LAUGHTER

0:24:030:24:05

-Oh, we should say 'wouble U,' shouldn't we?

-That would be amazing.

0:24:050:24:08

-That's much better.

-I was watching Countdown this very week.

0:24:080:24:13

And a man on Countdown kept saying, "Constanant, please, Rachel.

0:24:130:24:19

"Constanant, vowel. Constanant."

0:24:190:24:22

And he wasn't corrected. On Countdown!

0:24:220:24:26

The very bastion of correct language.

0:24:260:24:29

So, you know, standards are dropping and we need people like you.

0:24:290:24:33

-Definitely.

-Pedants.

-Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. It...

0:24:330:24:38

It shows how ill-educated the person is who says 'haitch.'

0:24:380:24:44

Isn't it uneducated?

0:24:440:24:45

No, it's h-ill-educated, I think.

0:24:450:24:47

LAUGHTER

0:24:470:24:49

APPLAUSE

0:24:490:24:50

But the language changes.

0:24:530:24:54

There was a time where you always had to drop the H

0:24:540:24:57

when you talked about a hotel. You talked about 'an otel.'

0:24:570:25:01

-That was correct pronunciation.

-Is that right?

0:25:010:25:03

'An otel,' you dropped the H. So, perhaps, we should drop the H.

0:25:030:25:08

No, I would never drop the H.

0:25:080:25:10

My husband and I had a conversation about it.

0:25:100:25:13

And we both decided it's 'a hotel.'

0:25:130:25:16

You sound like a fun couple.

0:25:160:25:18

LAUGHTER

0:25:180:25:20

I don't mind. I think people should speak as they want, by and large,

0:25:210:25:24

as long as they're understood.

0:25:240:25:25

The only thing I would change, there's only one thing

0:25:250:25:28

I say to everybody, is there is no such expression as 'would of.'

0:25:280:25:31

That's mine. You can't say it.

0:25:310:25:33

APPLAUSE

0:25:330:25:35

It's all down to etiquette.

0:25:360:25:38

Or, as my dad used to call it, 'etiquity.'

0:25:380:25:40

He honestly did.

0:25:410:25:43

I'll tell you what, Margaret, I love your passion about this.

0:25:430:25:47

And I love that you found someone else, clearly, who's also into it.

0:25:470:25:51

It must be like living with Roget.

0:25:510:25:54

So, you know what, I am going to put people

0:25:540:25:57

-who mispronounce H into Room 101.

-Thank you.

0:25:570:26:00

Well done.

0:26:060:26:07

Well done, Margaret. OK, can we have the next category, please?

0:26:090:26:13

It's the wildcard category, which means no restraints,

0:26:180:26:21

you can pick anything at all you don't like.

0:26:210:26:24

So what is Roisin's wildcard?

0:26:240:26:26

Greeting cards with writing already in it.

0:26:300:26:33

-Right.

-I can't bear them.

0:26:330:26:35

If you're going to bother buying and sending someone a card,

0:26:350:26:38

at least have the decency to write your own message.

0:26:380:26:41

Erm, and it's become, like, now they're like books.

0:26:410:26:44

You know those cards that have got pages of, like,

0:26:440:26:46

synthetic emotion that I can't compete with, so you're just like,

0:26:460:26:51

"To Mum, love, Roisin," like loads of stuff that's quite dramatic.

0:26:510:26:54

-Yes.

-I don't buy them, and my sister does,

0:26:540:26:57

and then my mum reads that out as if it's from my sister,

0:26:570:27:00

and then reads mine out, like, "To Mum, love you".

0:27:000:27:02

She's like, "Oh, you could've made an effort".

0:27:020:27:05

I'm like, "She bought it... Clintons wrote that, not her."

0:27:050:27:08

And I just think it's a sign of how busy we are.

0:27:080:27:10

Some people put quotation marks around three

0:27:100:27:14

paragraphs of other people's words.

0:27:140:27:17

As in, "What he said. That'll do."

0:27:170:27:20

I like to write under the verse,

0:27:200:27:23

"This is a fair approximation of what I feel."

0:27:230:27:25

I'm always at a loss on what to write on cards,

0:27:290:27:32

so I'm kind of glad for a bit of help.

0:27:320:27:35

This is a card,

0:27:350:27:37

this is for people who've recently split up in a relationship,

0:27:370:27:40

and it says, "You're the strongest person I know."

0:27:400:27:44

I sent one of those to Geoff Capes.

0:27:440:27:47

Look, "And I totally believe in you."

0:27:490:27:51

How lovely.

0:27:510:27:53

It didn't really apply to anyone that I knew,

0:27:530:27:56

so I got a bit of Tipp-Ex...

0:27:560:27:59

and I just gave it a bit of a...

0:27:590:28:01

And now I can send them to loads of my friends.

0:28:020:28:06

LAUGHTER

0:28:080:28:09

See, you've just got to give it a bit of thought.

0:28:110:28:13

I just think we're losing honesty.

0:28:130:28:15

By buying a blank card and having the guts to write a badly spelt,

0:28:150:28:19

woefully articulated,

0:28:190:28:21

earnest message of something to someone should matter.

0:28:210:28:25

And I think buying a card that does it all I find really depressing.

0:28:250:28:29

We've got a picture of a card here.

0:28:290:28:31

This is a birthday card for a one-year-old. Get a load of this.

0:28:310:28:34

It's a fairly standard one. It's your first birthday.

0:28:340:28:38

Old-fashioned card, but cuddly and lovely.

0:28:380:28:41

Any one-year-old would be pleased to receive that.

0:28:410:28:44

And then on the back it says...

0:28:440:28:46

"Not suitable for children under three years due too small parts."

0:28:480:28:51

This is slightly sad, but a friend of mine was bereaved recently,

0:28:530:28:58

and I sent them this, "With deepest sympathy card",

0:28:580:29:02

and, er, I went for the...

0:29:020:29:04

You see, you condemn the selfie, they're so versatile.

0:29:070:29:10

OK, well, let's see what Joan's wildcard is.

0:29:120:29:15

Chewing gum.

0:29:200:29:21

AUDIENCE GROANS

0:29:210:29:24

How vile is it?

0:29:240:29:26

You mean generally or on pavements?

0:29:260:29:28

Altogether, because it loses its flavour after ten seconds,

0:29:280:29:32

then you've got a mouthful of rubber.

0:29:320:29:33

It doesn't do anything.

0:29:330:29:35

It just sticks there, and your jaw chews around at it, makes lots

0:29:350:29:39

of saliva, horrible, and you look ridiculous, so you spit it out.

0:29:390:29:44

Then it disfigures the environment.

0:29:440:29:47

It spoils the pavements, it sticks to people's shoes,

0:29:470:29:49

and it sets up these spots everywhere,

0:29:490:29:52

which are very expensive to remove, and are just a disgrace to the

0:29:520:29:56

environment, which we want to be beautiful.

0:29:560:29:58

So, it really is a threat to the fact that we would like our cities

0:29:580:30:02

to look good.

0:30:020:30:04

And people are irresponsible, just throwing it out. Dropping it.

0:30:040:30:08

The trouble is, as my mother told me,

0:30:080:30:11

if you swallow it, it sticks your insides up.

0:30:110:30:15

Did you used to pull it out, and do that with it?

0:30:150:30:19

Yes, I used to do that.

0:30:190:30:20

I've done that with catarrh.

0:30:220:30:24

Oh, my God.

0:30:260:30:27

Well, I have one thing that might win you over, Joan,

0:30:280:30:32

and this is something which I think is pretty impressive.

0:30:320:30:36

There is a man, and he's called Ben Wilson,

0:30:360:30:39

and Ben Wilson is known as the chewing gum man.

0:30:390:30:42

Now, we have a photograph of Ben, doing what he does.

0:30:420:30:46

Ben actually paints those chewing gum splodges on the pavement

0:30:460:30:53

which annoy you so much. Now, Ben is here tonight. Where is Ben?

0:30:530:30:56

-Hello, Ben, how are you?

-Well done.

0:30:560:30:59

We have a couple of examples of your work, Ben,

0:31:050:31:09

just to give people an idea.

0:31:090:31:10

This is a scene from Archway in North London.

0:31:100:31:14

Wow.

0:31:150:31:17

And this is a full English breakfast.

0:31:170:31:20

And can I say, they're definitely sausages.

0:31:220:31:25

So, how did it all start, Ben?

0:31:260:31:28

Well, for years, I worked as an artist,

0:31:280:31:32

and I'd been painting a lot of pictures on billboards,

0:31:320:31:36

defacing the advertising because

0:31:360:31:39

advertisers have a monopoly over public space,

0:31:390:31:42

and it was a way to make creativity happen in a more spontaneous way.

0:31:420:31:47

And technically, if you paint on the chewing gum,

0:31:470:31:50

it's not criminal damage.

0:31:500:31:52

Oh, cos you're not painting on the pavement.

0:31:520:31:55

You're not painting on the pavement.

0:31:550:31:57

The City of London Police tried to get me on a criminal damage charge.

0:31:570:32:00

They did arrest me. But I won my case.

0:32:000:32:02

They couldn't make the charges stick.

0:32:020:32:05

Well, look, Ben has done something very wonderful,

0:32:120:32:14

because he has mounted some chewing gum on a brick,

0:32:140:32:18

and this shows us the life, basically, of Joan Bakewell.

0:32:180:32:23

If you can see that,

0:32:240:32:26

down there you've got Joan as a child with her family.

0:32:260:32:29

-Good heavens!

-Then Joan in the '60s.

0:32:290:32:31

Then Joan as a '70s TV presenter, and then Joan, there she is,

0:32:320:32:37

-as she is now.

-Wow.

0:32:370:32:39

And they're really good likenesses. That's fabulous.

0:32:390:32:42

What can I say? I can't retrieve my hatred of this kind of gum,

0:32:460:32:50

but can you get round faster?

0:32:500:32:52

But if people didn't spit it out,

0:32:540:32:56

-poor old Ben wouldn't have anything to paint.

-No, no.

0:32:560:32:58

It's beautiful. What about a big hand for Ben? Fabulous art.

0:32:580:33:02

OK. So what is Richard's wildcard?

0:33:050:33:08

It is people telling me I'm tall.

0:33:130:33:16

Because, believe me, I know. I already know.

0:33:210:33:25

I'm reminded in my daily life - I bump my head on things,

0:33:250:33:27

I get tutted at in cinemas and what have you.

0:33:270:33:30

I don't need people endlessly coming up in the streets

0:33:300:33:32

and informing me of the fact.

0:33:320:33:34

I'm 6'7", or I'm 6'8" if I'm trying to get an upgrade on a plane,

0:33:340:33:38

but, lots of people come up to you in the street,

0:33:380:33:40

and people are interested if you're tall,

0:33:400:33:43

and it's exciting and people are lovely.

0:33:430:33:44

So, by and large, it's fine.

0:33:440:33:46

But it's the people who shout out of car windows,

0:33:460:33:48

"Hey, you're tall, mate!"

0:33:480:33:50

Are you approaching a low bridge when they call that?

0:33:510:33:55

It's a warning.

0:33:550:33:56

I'm approaching a high bridge. It looks like a low bridge.

0:33:560:33:59

So, people actually tell you that you're tall?

0:34:000:34:03

Oh, endlessly.

0:34:030:34:05

There's a class of people who delight in telling anyone they're different.

0:34:050:34:09

For most people,

0:34:090:34:10

differences are wonderful things and we celebrate them.

0:34:100:34:12

Most people are like that, but there are a group of people as well,

0:34:120:34:15

who, whatever it is in their brains,

0:34:150:34:18

will delight in letting you know that something about you is unusual.

0:34:180:34:22

I mean if your shoelace is undone, that's good. That's helpful.

0:34:220:34:25

If you're telling me I'm tall, I promise you, it's covered.

0:34:250:34:28

-The good thing is, you'd be a really good meeting point...

-Yeah.

0:34:280:34:34

If there's a group of friends somewhere, we're going to find you.

0:34:340:34:37

I'm genuinely good for that, it has to be said. People don't lose me.

0:34:370:34:40

-I can go to Glastonbury and people know where I am.

-That's great.

0:34:400:34:43

You're virtually a flag.

0:34:430:34:45

LAUGHTER

0:34:450:34:47

I was in a shop the other day, and people quite often ask me

0:34:470:34:49

to get things off high shelves...

0:34:490:34:52

-Do they really?

-As I say, most people are lovely.

0:34:520:34:54

So I'm in a shop and there's a lady, must have been 70-odd, very, very short, and she said,

0:34:540:34:58

"You couldn't get me some eggs from up there, could you?" I said, "Oh, absolutely".

0:34:580:35:02

So I got them and gave them to her, and she just went,

0:35:020:35:04

"Is there anything I can get you from down here?"

0:35:040:35:07

LAUGHTER

0:35:070:35:10

I've invented something. It's called the height reversal platform.

0:35:130:35:19

-OK.

-You're nine inches taller than me.

-Uh-huh.

0:35:190:35:23

And it must be, for you, thinking, "God, what's it like for Frank

0:35:230:35:27

"being next to a man who's nine inches..?"

0:35:270:35:30

So the height reversal platform, if you'll come and join me, Richard,

0:35:300:35:36

means that we can show you what it would be like if you were me...

0:35:360:35:40

-OK.

-..as it were.

0:35:400:35:42

So can you bring on the height reversal platform, please?

0:35:420:35:45

-OK.

-I've got you.

0:35:520:35:55

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

0:35:550:35:57

-So I stand on here, you step into those...

-Ah.

0:35:570:36:00

This is what you're like to me.

0:36:080:36:10

-God, you're tall, aren't you?

-Yeah. Can I try these?

0:36:100:36:14

There we go.

0:36:140:36:15

There you go.

0:36:160:36:18

People watching this will think,

0:36:180:36:20

"Yeah, God, that Richard Osman's dressed smart."

0:36:200:36:23

Or they might think, "Blimey, Michael Gove's tall."

0:36:240:36:27

Actually, it'd be interesting to see what would happen if we, er...

0:36:340:36:37

-If instead of balancing, it made things...

-Reverse around.

0:36:370:36:40

-Yeah.

-Let's blow people's minds, Frank.

0:36:400:36:43

LAUGHTER

0:36:450:36:49

Thank you, Richard.

0:36:590:37:01

The height reversal platform, ladies and gentlemen.

0:37:010:37:04

CHEERING

0:37:040:37:07

I love the removal men.

0:37:090:37:10

They're like something from Laurel and Hardy, aren't they?

0:37:100:37:13

So, Roisin, I've often been very glad of a bit of help with

0:37:130:37:18

a greetings card, I must admit.

0:37:180:37:19

Although the poetry's bad, it means I don't have to write stuff,

0:37:190:37:23

so I just can't put that into Room 101.

0:37:230:37:26

Joan, you argued so well, and I am anti-litter, very, very much so,

0:37:260:37:30

but I just thought Ben's art was so good,

0:37:300:37:33

I just don't feel I can put it in.

0:37:330:37:35

But, Richard, I do feel for you.

0:37:350:37:37

Can anyone watching just... He knows. He knows.

0:37:370:37:40

And consequently, I'm going to put

0:37:400:37:42

people telling Richard he's tall into Room 101.

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And that brings us to the end of the show,

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and well done, Richard, you were the most persuasive guest tonight,

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so you are tonight's winner.

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So, thank you very much to Richard Osman, to Joan Bakewell

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and Roisin Conaty, and thank you, good night.

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