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Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101 - | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
the show where three guests compete to cast their biggest gripes | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
deep into the gloomy vault. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Our guests' choices have been sorted into categories, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
and in each round only one item can be chosen. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
The final decision is mine. Let's meet this week's guests. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Joining me tonight are former England cricket captain | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Michael Vaughan, comedienne Sara Pascoe | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
and Mr Television Jonathan Ross. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Good evening, Sara. Good evening, Michael. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Good evening, Frank. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
Right, let's have our first category. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
It's People. So let's see what people wind up Jonathan. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
It's people who literally misuse the word "literally". | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
Oh, there you go. Thank you. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
-Popular. -Support there. -Popular, isn't it? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
And I'm not sitting here in the full pomp of pedantry and saying I don't | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
agree that words could be changed over the years or that language | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
is indeed something which can evolve and people can use it differently. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
I'm all for that. I understand that the modern world, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
part of the vernacular and the idiom | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
that we have is not necessarily what it was 20 years ago. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Recently, my daughter started using the word 'spicy.' | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
That's the new word for an attractive person. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
-Did you know that, Sara? -No. -Spicy. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
So she says, "Oh, yeah, he's the spicy one." | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
So I know words change and I'm all for that. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
It's like, good and bad being switched. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
But "literally" is a word that has a very specific and very useful | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
meaning, and the times when we use it, we should do that. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
And I think it's important that you stick to that. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
When people misuse it, it's normally because they're idiots. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Like, there was an American news reporter I saw when | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Britney Spears was having one of her semi-regular downturns, poor thing. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
I think it was the time when she shaved her head and went out | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
and attacked a van with an umbrella. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
She was in a bad way and they went outside to some sort of | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
terrible report and said, "What can you tell us about Britney?" | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Obviously he couldn't tell us anything because he didn't know | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Britney and he was just outside with the rest of the kind of | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
the bottom feeders, commenting on this poor woman's breakdown. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
And he said, "She's literally on a roller-coaster to hell." | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
Wow. If she was, I'd have watched all night. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
May I quote the great poet Ezra Pound? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Well, he wasn't much of a poet, but anyway. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
He said, "Words are shabby tools, always deteriorating." | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
And they are, but only if you let them. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
I'm saying we should stick with "literally" for what it is | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
and not let idiots destroy it. God bless you. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
Some of the older gentlemen in the audience were the first to applaud. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
There was a gentleman there, he was straight up, like... | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Yes. I think the very old guy there, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
he was still clapping the guests coming on. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
It's a very interesting point, this, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
because I am quite liberal about language being used | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
and changing and all that, but you're quite right, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
There is a specific purpose for "literally" and it is being used badly. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
One of the worst exponents of this is Jamie Redknapp, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
who is famous now for his overuse of "literally" | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
and I've got some examples to back up your point. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
For example... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
To be fair to Jamie Redknapp, though, the fact that his dad's dog | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
had a bank account might have confused him. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
The richest dog in the world. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Exactly. Now this one is particularly interesting. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
Now, I should point out, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Peter Schmeichel IS Kasper Schmeichel's father. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
This is one of the few opportunities he had to use "literally" correctly. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
Would you say you were a pedantic person when it comes to language? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
I'm not overly pedantic. And I'll be honest with you, if you don't put it in Room 101 | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
I'm not going to lose sleep over it, Frank, but... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
-What, literally? -..it does bother me. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
OK, so what person winds up Michael? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Luis Suarez. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
Yes. Now, in case you're not a football fan, we should point out | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
that Luis Suarez is, I think you'd agree, a very fine footballer. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
I would say he's one of the best. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Yes, but he does occasionally bite people. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Well, this is my point. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
In sport, you've got to be a role model. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
There's millions of kids watching you all over the world, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
and your job is to try and send a message through the TV screens | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
for those kids to try and follow you. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
2010, Luis Suarez took a chunk out of someone's neck playing for Ajax. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
2013, he took a chunk out of someone's arm | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
playing against Chelsea, and he took it onto the World Cup, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
he had a bite of an Italian. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
I don't mind him biting Italians, to be honest. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
-Now, what kind of an example is that to the children watching at home? -LAUGHTER | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
Don't you agree, especially as a man who was a captain of a major team, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
that you have to give geniuses a bit of leeway? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
You know, McEnroe, Cantona, Lindsay Lohan... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
But do you know what I mean? Let's say Freddie Flintoff had bitten Shane Warne. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
That would be fine. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
But Michael, is there a thing where sportsmen aren't very clever, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
as in they're not the brightest people in the... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-Not you, but other sportsmen... -I would say you have a point. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
No matter how thick you are as a sportsperson... | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-Yeah. Who's the thickest? -I think you've got to be... | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
We're going to be here all night now. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
He's going to reel off a list of thousands. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
-It's very difficult, isn't it, to... -To be a sportsman and read a book? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
-Yeah... -LAUGHTER | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
-I would say that there's one thing being thick... -Mm. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
But there's another thing biting someone. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-Yeah. -And then doing it a second time and a third time. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Can I read you his statement to FIFA after the World Cup bite? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
He said, "I lost my balance and that destabilised my body | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
"and I fell into my opponent. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
"In the moment, my face came into collision with the player, causing | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
"a small bruise on my cheekbone and a lot of pain to my teeth." | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
It's a bit like when these blokes turn up in A&E and they say, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
"When I flopped down on the sofa I forgot I'd put the cucumber there." | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
It's... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
I'd rather he'd have fessed up. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
I mean, I have to say, I don't think it's that bad, the biting thing. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:03 | |
What? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
BOOING | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
Ohh! | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
I honestly don't know why there's such a big fuss about it. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Because he...because he assaulted another man in the middle of a game. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Well, for a start, one point, he's a brilliant player, and... | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
Let's put it this way - | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
if I thought he'd still got some pace and could organise a back four, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
I would happily have Charles Manson playing for West Bromwich Albion. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Biting someone is not going to change the course of the game. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
He's bitten three people. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
None of them had to leave the pitch. None of them were badly injured... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
I don't see how you can... I mean, this is weird, Frank, you've become weird. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
No! I absolutely... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I think enormous fuss has been... Let me give you an example. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Michael Vaughan, right? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
Now, you will remember an incident where a batsman complained | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
that you'd left some jelly beans on the pitch, do you remember this? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-Absolutely. -It was Zaheer Khan. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
And he said that the England team... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
First of all he said they'd left some jelly beans on the pitch | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
to taunt him and that they were | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
throwing jelly beans at him during... Sounds fairly minor. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
And then Michael Vaughan, captain of England, says, "We were wrong. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
"Because we were eating jelly beans in order to produce sweet saliva | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
"to get the ball to swing." You're not really supposed to do that. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
-No, it was... Yeah, we were actually cheating. -OK, you were cheating. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
You own up NOW quickly enough, don't you! | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
But what I'm saying is, what you were doing, in my opinion, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
which could genuinely change the result of the game, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
is worse than biting someone. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
I think biting jelly beans is worse than biting "human beans". | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-You are so weird right now, it's unbelievable. -No, I... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I think this, Michael Vaughan, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
is actually worse than this. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
-Give over! -I believe that, seriously. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Apparently Suarez has been sent thousands | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
of abusive letters about this, but he's never got them | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
because the postman won't go anywhere near his house. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
OK, so what person winds up Sara? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
Now, sorry, guys, to make your things look really flippant, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
but I've chosen the Grim Reaper, and that is because I don't want to die. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:25 | |
People have died before this so that we could evolve, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
so that humanity could improve, but now I am the end of evolution. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
I'm excellent. It's been perfected. Why should I have to go anywhere? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
Well, you know, dying... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
I'm a Roman Catholic, so for me it's just like moving house. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
I'm not really worried about it. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
You don't get to choose where you move to. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Well, no, that's... You do if you live your life correctly. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
The trouble is, if there's no death, where are Oxfam going to get their clothes from? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Don't you think the concept of death is useful to us, even if | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
-the actual thought of death itself is rather grim? -OK. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I recently ate too many chips one night, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
and it was a terrible evening. I'd gone out... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
You have a really hard life, don't you? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
LAUGHTER It's a sad story. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
I went to get chips for me and the wife, and I was so starving I ate all of mine. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
I must have eaten a portion that big of chips. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
Then I hate half of my wife's. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
By the time I went to bed, I probably had the size of like a | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
large football of largely undigested undercooked potatoes in my stomach. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
Woke up in the middle of the night needing to try | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
and move this terrible plug. Nothing was happening. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
I was sweating, I was moaning, walking up and down. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
I was banging my head, trying to put a cold towel on, I was in agony. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
Got no sympathy from my wife whatsoever. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
So at that stage, I was longing for the relief that death would bring. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
If death did not exist, even as a concept, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
that would have been an even worse night than it already was. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
But it wasn't death that you needed, it was a bowel movement. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-LAUGHTER -That's a very fine line, that. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
Oh, imagine if I die before this goes out. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
-Wow. -If you can just smile for a second and stay still, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
then we can use that photo on the end with your dates. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Let's hope not, though. Let's hope not. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
Funerals can be quite creative events though. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
I have some footage of a funeral. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
This was a woman who was a fanatical ten-pin bowler, and her friends | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
clubbed together, paid some money and came up with this as a funeral. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Take these last memories of the opportunity of serving | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
your momma down here... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
by pushing her down. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
When I pushed that casket, I just had this fantastic feeling come | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
over me, like she was there, just helping me get it down the lane. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
That's ridiculous. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
-What if she got lost down the back, like the ball does sometimes? -LAUGHTER | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
There's another on this same theme. This is a guy who... | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Obviously the deaths of these people are tragic, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
but the funerals have a light-hearted side. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
This is a bloke, and his great love - | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
again this is an American thing, unsurprisingly, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
this is just the picture - his great love was breakfast, that's what | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
he lived for, was to get up and have a big breakfast in the morning. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
This was the themed funeral that they genuinely went for. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
What I love about that is the man who represents bacon... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
..had thought, "I think I'll wear shades for this. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
"Otherwise it might look ridiculous." | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
OK, so now we come to the end... | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Well, I do worry about getting rid of death, because I think | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
there might come a time when I'm really looking forward to it. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
Suarez, I think is one of the great players in the world... | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
BOOING | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-..and I'm not going to let the bigotry of the audience... -LAUGHTER | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
But I do think we have to be very careful about this wonderful English | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
language that we all share, and we need to protect it and cosset it. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
So I am going to put, literally, people who use the word | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
"literally" into Room 101. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Next category, please. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
It's Food & Drink. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
So what doesn't Michael like about food and drink? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Pick 'n' Mix. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
-BOOING -What a good response. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
What? Are you insane? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
-The crowd aren't disapproving, they're shocked. -No, listen. I love sweets... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
I know that. Especially jelly beans. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
..but I hate the fact that I go to a service station | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
or a sweet shop with my three kids, and when I was growing up there was | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
penny sweets, two-penny sweets, and you knew exactly | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
what you were getting, and what you were paying for it. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
You go with your kids, and you're trying to direct them to the | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
light sweets, because they put them on that weighing scale... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
and it's going to be cheaper. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
And they go straight for the gobstopper, or the massive | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
cola bottles, which I'm pretty sure are now made out of lead. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
So my point is, wherever there's Pick 'n' Mix, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
you go to get ten cola bottles and it comes out at £4.86, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
where really it should be 30p, like the old days. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
There used to be a tradition, didn't there, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
of the tight-fisted Yorkshireman? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Obviously that was inaccurate. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
There are very few items in the Pick 'n' Mix | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I don't enjoy wholeheartedly, although I did once | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
go a bit crazy on the fudge, and I ate so much I started crying. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
I had a weird emotional response. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
I was sitting in a movie and I ate loads of fudge | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
and they'd run out of the stuff I wanted. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
You know when you fill up the big carton? You get a carton. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-What did it cost you? -About £25. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
I really, really, really like the sponge prawns. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-Oh, God, you've all got awful taste in sweets. -No, they're the best. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
-They're called a foam prawn, aren't they? -Shrimps. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-These are the ones I'm talking about. -Yeah. Foam prawn. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Foam prawn. It's also if you have a child that loses an ear. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Be no good if the child was Martin Clunes, though, would it? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Then you could use the sponge banana. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Milk teeth - you know the famous milk teeth...? -Yeah. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-Nice. -You can now get... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-I know. -..the toothbrushes to go with it, so you can... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
-It's all incredibly ironic. -Yeah. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Ironic that they would dare bring up dental health in the midst of a Pick 'n' Mix. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
That's how safe they feel! | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
No, I think it's a beautiful thing | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
and I'm happy to pay through the nose for it, I must say. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
I had a terrible thing recently | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
when I realised that maybe I'm not the romantic I used to be. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
I ate a whole packet of Love Hearts | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
and I realised I hadn't read any of them. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
I don't understand this one - these are German, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
and they're called "cats' tongues". | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
-Katzenzungen. -Awww! | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
And I thought, "Oh, these'll be like cats' tongues." | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
There they are. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Is that what cats' tongues look like? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-Is it kind of... Cos cats' tongues are kind of rough, aren't they? -Very rough. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
-I really want to eat that right now. -Yeah. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
It's chocolate. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
-Don't cry... -Good catch. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Look and learn. APPLAUSE | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
I've got a little chocolate furball forming at the back now. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
-Very good furball impression - you studied this, I can tell. -That's all I do these days. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
So what doesn't Sara like about food and drink? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
My one is stupid things that are said to vegetarians. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
I've been vegetarian since I was seven. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
I'm now vegan, because I'm fun-time, but people ask what you miss, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
and, "How do you get your protein?" | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
And then, "You know we're supposed to eat meat?" | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
like they've thought about it for longer than I have. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
"Oh, yeah? Really? Tell me more about this new theory you've got." | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
I'm going to be totally honest, I had never really given this a great deal of thought... | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Oh, really? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Until... I have a child, he was two, and I took him to this place, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
the City Farm, which is a little farm in the middle of London. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
And he was playing with the chickens, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
and they were doing that dust bath thing that chickens do | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
and he was really laughing and loving it. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
And we got back home, and we put his lunch together | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
and I said, "Here you are, here's some chicken" - | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
and he looked at me... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
And I sensed he was thinking, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
"This better not be the same as those things you were encouraging me to like earlier." | 0:18:14 | 0:18:20 | |
And it's one of the first times I've felt really bad about it. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
-Yeah. -Not that I want to stop him eating chicken, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
I just wish people would come up with another name for the meat... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
Like they have with pork and beef. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
It's so hard when you're abroad. I went to Norway do some gigs and they had said, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
"In Stavanger it's quite difficult, but there's one vegetarian restaurant." | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
So I went to the vegetarian restaurant | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-and ordered a vegetarian salad, and it came with a beefburger on it. -LAUGHTER | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
But don't you miss beefburgers? LAUGHTER | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Oh, this is the other thing people'll say. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
They think they can catch you out with a moral thing, they go, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
"What about if I said I was going to kill a chicken unless you ate this chicken?" | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
"Ah... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
"I'd call the police." | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-But we were hunter-gatherers, weren't we? -Yeah. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Well, we were gatherers first, and then we became... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
But hunter-gatherers - hunter gets top billing. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Yeah, like Baddiel and Skinner. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-Doesn't necessarily mean anything, Frank. -No. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
But when you see drawings on cave walls, they're never gathering. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
-No. -You don't get drawings of people walking round like that... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
One thing I sympathise for you is, I no longer drink alcohol | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
because of er... I think the term is "alcoholism". | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
I went into a wine merchant's with a woman I was going out with | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
at the time, and she was trying to buy a really nice | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
bottle of wine for a friend, and this guy said to me, "Try this wine, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
"it's absolutely beautiful." And I said, "I won't, thank you." | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
He said, "It really is absolutely beautiful." | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
I said, "I really won't." He said, "Honestly, I insist you try this," | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
and I thought, "I'm going to have to say it." | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
And I said, "Look, sorry, I'm an alcoholic." | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
And he said, "Maybe a sparkling wine?" | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-LAUGHTER -Yeah. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
So I have a certain sympathy, I must say. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
What about this idea that vegetables have feelings too? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
I have some photographic evidence | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
which suggests that vegetables might be living creatures. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Look at this. This is the hip-hop carrot. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Wow. LAUGHTER | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The louche parsnip. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Oh, he's lovely. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
And the runaway radish. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Aww...! | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
OK, then. What doesn't Jonathan like about food and drink? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
The snail. I do not enjoy eating the snail. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
You know no-one really likes it, because when it's served... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
How many people here have actually eaten snail? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Quite a few. OK. How many people LIKE eating snail? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
-You enjoy snail? -Yeah. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
When I had snail, it was so covered in butter and garlic, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
that it might as well have been a mushroom in there, frankly. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
It really wasn't the snail you were eating | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
because you didn't taste anything. You were eating it... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
And I can understand maybe way back in time when, you know, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
we WERE hunter-gatherers, obviously it's an easier thing to catch than | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
many of the animals running around, so you can see why it would have | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
been a dinner of hazelnut and snail, because boom, boom, boom, boom. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
But it's not a tasty dish. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
And - just look at it. It's bloody disgusting. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Eurrgh, a big slimy... | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
I don't even want to know what that...stuff is coming out - | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
I don't even want to know where it comes OUT of. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
All over the path. And at night when you go out - | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
I go into the garden at night sometimes to take | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
the dogs out in the evening, and sometimes I do a wee in the garden, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
I don't mind admitting that, to encourage the dogs to join me. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
I'm the leader of the pack. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
So I'm out in the garden... Right? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
So I'm probably not wearing much. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
You walk out, and you're barefoot - you tread on a snail at night, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
it's a horrible feeling. Crunch, then... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
I really don't want to eat it. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
So I don't like being given snails to eat. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
I don't really like snails. And I'm not squeamish about weird food. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
I like an oyster. Oh, I love an oyster. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Oh, I don't. I think it's like licking phlegm off a tortoise. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Maybe I don't like them as much as I used to, but... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
In terms of all the innards bits, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
any time meat is not in the shape that you cut it... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I don't mind that. I know when I'm eating hot dogs I'm probably eating | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
the foreskin of a cow, and that's fine. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
-I think a cow is female. -Is it? OK. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Well, they do a lot of stuff with genetics these days with animals. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
I like... There's something exciting and different about it. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
I like the accoutrements, I like the little forks. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Have you ever seen these? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
No, I don't believe. Aren't they haberdashers' scissors? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
-These are grape scissors. -Wow. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
What? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
So you do this thing where when you want a bunch of grapes, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
you don't want to take off the whole bunch so you use them to | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
just cut a small section. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Why wouldn't you use normal scissors? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
What's the difference between the normal scissors? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-They've got grapes on the handles. -You know what they're for. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
If you take those out when you're watching West Brom at the weekend... | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Referee, throw us a snail. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I'm a bit peckish. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
You know how when someone has got a particular problem, they wear, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
like, a bracelet or a necklace so the ambulance driver knows? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Yeah, like an allergy. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
-You need a laminated thing in all your dinner jackets... -"No snails." | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
The whole instructions, just why you don't like them, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
all of your thoughts and feelings. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
Just show it to the manager or the waitress. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
That is a feminine approach, to say, "All your thoughts and feelings." | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
I don't think I need all my thoughts and feelings on the card. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
OK. You're the one eating fudge and crying, mate, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-before you make any comments about gender. -APPLAUSE | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
I'm not ashamed of crying over fudge. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Well, we come to the end of that round. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
I'm not going to put snails in, because it is the closest | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
I get to sophistication, and I do have a soft spot for them. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
They're like little foreign tourists with their backpacks. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
Pick 'n' Mix, I would pay twice as much. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
It's such a joyous, exciting, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
'who knows what's round the corner?' experience. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
But I sympathise and empathise with... | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I think it's hard enough being a vegetarian | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
without people asking stupid questions. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
So I'm going to put stupid things that people say to | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
-vegetarians into Room 101. -Yeah! Yeah! | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Thank you. Yeah. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Good call. Well argued. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
Right, let's have our next category, please. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
It's the Wildcard. There's no restraints. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
You can pick anything at all that you don't like. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
What is Sara's wild card? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Right. I have picked time as my wild card. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
I'm getting rid of time. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
Can we say, this is Old Father Time. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
We just put a watch on the Grim Reaper. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Oh, I see. I didn't even see the watch. Yeah. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Well, yeah. I just think we should get rid of time. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
I think we should do things when we want to do things. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I think... I don't like having to go out for people's birthdays. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
Sometimes I really feel like going out two days before that and nothing | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
is going on, and then on their birthday I don't want to go out. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
I want to get up when I've finished sleeping. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
I want to go to bed when I want to sleep. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
I think we should all go to work for as long as it takes to | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
do our work, and when our work's finished we can leave. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
You're describing my son, who's a student. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
That's his life right there. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
How would you have known what time to be here today? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
I did think about that. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Someone would have rung up and gone, "Would you like to come on Room 101?" | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
I'd say yes. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
That would have been the end of the conversation because | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
I couldn't ask when because there's no time and they couldn't tell me when. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
So I'd just have to come here one day | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
with a little collection of props I've made myself | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
and just chuck 'em down. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
I can't help but think you're losing faith in this. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
No, I live my life by these rules. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
How would... How would it affect other people, though? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Because if we all operate on different times... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
First of all, it would be chaotic. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
So, for instance, you want to go somewhere. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
You decide you do want to go somewhere, and the bus driver, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
there's no timetable. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
He or she drives along, at some point, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
because they have to do their job to get paid. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
So you might be waiting there for quite a long time. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
It might be frustrating, but eventually I think we'd all | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
relax about these constraints and realise actually life is | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
happening all the time, whether I'm waiting for a bus or not. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
-Enjoy the journey, guys. -Have you ever been on holiday to Jamaica? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
-No. -Very similar approach there. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
I waited two days for a bus out there. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
You're quite right about it being arbitrary. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
During the French Revolution, they brought in metric time. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
There was ten metric hours in a day. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
100 metric minutes in a metric hour | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
and 100 metric seconds in a metric minute | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and ten days in a metric week. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-They just decided that that was that. -Crazy. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
You can actually buy... This is a metric clock. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
A great thing to have hanging up at home because people take a bit of time to work out | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
what the hell's weird about it. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I love it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
Not in your house. You're sitting there eating snails, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
watching Suarez bite your kids. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
"This is the life." | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
The thing is with time, is that we could...we can deny it, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
but eventually we age and become older. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-It beats us, doesn't it? -Well, we won't know, because... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
-Oh, you'll know. -..you've decided when your birthdays are. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Believe me, you'll know. I had a situation two weeks ago. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
I couldn't remember the name of a West Bromwich Albion player, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
a main player in the team, who I've seen play many times. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
So I spent two hours, and I got it. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
I got it and I remembered, and I was telling someone this story two | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
days later, and I couldn't remember which player I couldn't remember. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
OK, what is Jonathan's wild card? | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Boom. My wild card is, and this seems to be a growing trend. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
It annoys me every time I see it, is when they have commercials, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
or you see posters, and they're using dead celebrities - | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
who clearly can't give their consent - to advertise stuff. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I hate it. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
There's an online shopping store where you can buy clothes, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
quite expensive men's designer clothes. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Their new advert is Frank Sinatra coming off a private jet, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
and Frank Sinatra looked great, didn't he? | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Very few people have ever looked as good as Frank Sinatra, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
but he's carrying a shopping bag with the name of this thing on. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Admittedly, it is a service that maybe he would use, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
it's not like he's carrying a Lidl or Aldi bag, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
so it's somewhere he might have gone if he were still alive, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
but he isn't and he hasn't given his permission. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
There's the advert selling chocolate, which, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
it looks like Audrey Hepburn in the advert. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
It's an incredible feat of technology, and | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
I admire the people doing it for the skill they're putting into it, but | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
it looks like Audrey Hepburn in some beautiful sort of Italian | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
fishing village, missing a bus, and it's all to sell a chocolate bar. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
We have that. Would you like to...? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
Well, no, I clearly don't want to see it. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
Why are you rubbing my face in it? What's wrong with you, Frank? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
-Just to illustrate. -OK, let's do that. An aide-memoire. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
Can I say, one thing I've noticed about this Audrey Hepburn, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
is Audrey Hepburn, when she eats chocolate, she doesn't chew. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
She swallows it like a lozenge. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Gone. Weird. Anyway, here's Audrey enjoying a bit of choc. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
MUSIC: Moon River | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-Like a lizard. She just swallowed it. -Yeah. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
But, you know, it is an incredible feat. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
What worries me is they might start doing movies this way as well. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
And you think, OK, obviously a lot of what actors choose | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
a part for is, you know, they're doing it...it's their living. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
But they choose films because it's something they want to do, whether | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
they want the challenge, or they want to be in that particular movie. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Sometimes it's just for cash. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
I mean, Michael Caine famously did Jaws IV, and when critics | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
afterwards said it was a terrible movie, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
he said, "Well, I've never seen the film, but I've seen the house | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
"that I bought with the money, and that's marvellous." | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
But here's the thing. That was his choice, you know. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
No, I can see that it's morally... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
I mean, I've heard that they've got Churchill now advertising insurance. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Don't encourage him any more. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I did a voiceover when I first started in which I had to say, | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
"Don't know where to start? Exchange and Mart." | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
This advertising exec comes round and said, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
"You need more passion in this. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
"You're really angry. Remember that you know | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
"about Exchange and Mart, these people don't. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
"I want to hear that anger in your voice." | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
So I said, "Don't know where to start?! Exchange and Mart!" | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
He said, "I think you can give it a bit more." By the end I'm going, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
"You don't know where to start?! What's the matter with you people?!" | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
I found out the next advert he did was for British Telecom | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
in which the voiceover was done by Professor Stephen Hawking. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
How did that work? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
Was he saying, "A little bit louder. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
"Try block capitals." | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:41 | 0:31:42 | |
-Well, let me... Just to lighten things a bit. -Yeah. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
This is an advert with a living... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
she was living, and this is Doris Day advertising steam rollers. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
That's brilliant, isn't it? | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
And can I read you some of the text on this? | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
"When Doris Day needs road rolling equipment, you can | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
"bet she's going to turn to a name she's known and trusted for years." | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
"The Series 56 is available with both manual and power steering | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
"which is gonna thrill a slip of a gal like Doris." | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It's a bit worrying that it's got a lamp on the front. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
How much steam rolling do you do at night? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Surely that's asking for trouble. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
That's when she's after snails. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
But I do like the look of that vehicle. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Listen to this. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
"No, Doris, there isn't a vanity mirror, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
"but the International Series 56 will have your tarmac | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
"compressed in time for you to stop off at the beauty salon to | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
"have your hair done and cook a tasty dinner for your husband." | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
OK, let's have a look at Michael's wild card. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
-Miming. -Mmm. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Singers that mime. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
We, as a family, I don't know if you're all like our sad family, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-on a Saturday night, the other channel... -Yeah. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
We sit around and watch the show, and there's four judges, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
and they judge shop workers, fishmongers, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
-who sing live in front of 12 million people. -Mmm. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
And then Dermot O'Reilly comes onstage | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
-and introduces a world famous... -"Dermot O'Reilly?" Are you miming? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:22 | |
It's got a very camp thing, isn't it? Dermot? Oh, really? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
He comes onstage and he introduces a megastar, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
sold three billion albums worldwide, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
and then they go and mime onstage in front of the four judges. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
And I just watch it and go, what other jobs in the world can | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
you actually get paid thousands, yet you can mime doing it? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
So I'm getting rid of miming singers. Do your job. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
Get on the mic and sing. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
-That's a very good point. -Mmm. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
I know Margaret Thatcher hated it as... | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
No, that was mining. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
I just can't understand that... | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Is there any other job that you can think of | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
where someone could just press play? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
Autopilot. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
There's one. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
Disc jockey. Loads. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
There's loads, yeah. There's millions. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Have you ever done that thing when you just get an edge off the bat | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
and then you do that, pretending it's hit you on the arm? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
-Yes. -That's miming. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
That's cheating. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:34 | |
How are you with animals miming? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
I've never met one. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Well, I'm going to... | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
This is a cat. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
And can I say, this isn't computer-messed-about-with. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
What the guy is doing, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
he's just sticking his finger in the tickly bit on a cat's ribcage, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
and this what can be produced with that technique. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
# Just take those old records off the shelf | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
# I'll sit and listen to 'em by myself | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
# Today's music ain't got the same soul | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
# I like that old time rock and roll. # | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Ah, lovely cat. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Kind of looks like it's enjoying it. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
Don't you think he looks like he's enjoying the attention? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
He does. I worry about the thick bandana. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
It makes me worry that they might have grafted a cat's head | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
onto a speaker. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
We ought to even things up a bit. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
So this is a woman playing her dog as if it were a banjo. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
BANJO MUSIC PLAYS | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
That's a teddy, isn't it? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Look at his little legs going. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
He loves it. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
There's another one under the chair. "When's it going to be my turn?" | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
He's getting left out. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:50 | |
Aah! | 0:35:53 | 0:35:54 | |
You've got his pal under the chair saying, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-"When is it my go?" -She plays him like the drums. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Yeah, I was hoping Pete Townsend would come in, do a bit | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
and then smash it up against the speaker. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Here's a bit of miming you might find interesting, Michael. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
This is a karaokimal, which is a terrible piece of compound wording | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
which means the karaoke animal. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
Here he is. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
He looks like Suarez. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
You plug him into whatever you keep your sounds on | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
and he will sing along. Let me give you an example. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
# Oh my-y love... # | 0:36:38 | 0:36:46 | |
You get the picture. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
It also responds to your actual voice. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
He could actually host this show... | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
..if I didn't make it one week. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
So let's try this. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Well done, Jonathan and Sara, with your choices, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
but I'm going to put miming into Room 101. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:10 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
SPEECH OBSCURED BY APPLAUSE | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
Yeah, me too. I thought that too. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
And that brings us to the end of the show. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Well done, Jonathan, you were the most persuasive guest tonight, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
-so you are this week's winner. -Oh, thank you. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
Thanks very much to Jonathan Ross, Michael Vaughan | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
and Sara Pascoe, and thank you, good night. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 |