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Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101 -

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the show where three guests compete to cast their biggest gripes

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deep into the gloomy vault.

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Our guests' choices have been sorted into categories,

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and in each round only one item can be chosen.

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The final decision is mine. Let's meet this week's guests.

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Joining me tonight are former England cricket captain

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Michael Vaughan, comedienne Sara Pascoe

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and Mr Television Jonathan Ross.

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APPLAUSE

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Good evening, Sara. Good evening, Michael.

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Good evening, Frank.

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Right, let's have our first category.

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It's People. So let's see what people wind up Jonathan.

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It's people who literally misuse the word "literally".

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APPLAUSE

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Oh, there you go. Thank you.

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-Popular.

-Support there.

-Popular, isn't it?

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And I'm not sitting here in the full pomp of pedantry and saying I don't

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agree that words could be changed over the years or that language

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is indeed something which can evolve and people can use it differently.

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I'm all for that. I understand that the modern world,

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part of the vernacular and the idiom

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that we have is not necessarily what it was 20 years ago.

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Recently, my daughter started using the word 'spicy.'

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That's the new word for an attractive person.

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-Did you know that, Sara?

-No.

-Spicy.

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So she says, "Oh, yeah, he's the spicy one."

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So I know words change and I'm all for that.

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It's like, good and bad being switched.

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But "literally" is a word that has a very specific and very useful

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meaning, and the times when we use it, we should do that.

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And I think it's important that you stick to that.

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When people misuse it, it's normally because they're idiots.

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Like, there was an American news reporter I saw when

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Britney Spears was having one of her semi-regular downturns, poor thing.

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I think it was the time when she shaved her head and went out

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and attacked a van with an umbrella.

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She was in a bad way and they went outside to some sort of

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terrible report and said, "What can you tell us about Britney?"

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Obviously he couldn't tell us anything because he didn't know

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Britney and he was just outside with the rest of the kind of

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the bottom feeders, commenting on this poor woman's breakdown.

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And he said, "She's literally on a roller-coaster to hell."

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Wow. If she was, I'd have watched all night.

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May I quote the great poet Ezra Pound?

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Well, he wasn't much of a poet, but anyway.

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He said, "Words are shabby tools, always deteriorating."

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And they are, but only if you let them.

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I'm saying we should stick with "literally" for what it is

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and not let idiots destroy it. God bless you.

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APPLAUSE

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Some of the older gentlemen in the audience were the first to applaud.

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There was a gentleman there, he was straight up, like...

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Yes. I think the very old guy there,

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he was still clapping the guests coming on.

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It's a very interesting point, this,

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because I am quite liberal about language being used

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and changing and all that, but you're quite right,

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There is a specific purpose for "literally" and it is being used badly.

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One of the worst exponents of this is Jamie Redknapp,

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who is famous now for his overuse of "literally"

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and I've got some examples to back up your point.

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For example...

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LAUGHTER

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To be fair to Jamie Redknapp, though, the fact that his dad's dog

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had a bank account might have confused him.

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The richest dog in the world.

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Exactly. Now this one is particularly interesting.

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Now, I should point out,

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Peter Schmeichel IS Kasper Schmeichel's father.

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This is one of the few opportunities he had to use "literally" correctly.

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Would you say you were a pedantic person when it comes to language?

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I'm not overly pedantic. And I'll be honest with you, if you don't put it in Room 101

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I'm not going to lose sleep over it, Frank, but...

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-What, literally?

-..it does bother me.

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OK, so what person winds up Michael?

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Luis Suarez.

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Yes. Now, in case you're not a football fan, we should point out

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that Luis Suarez is, I think you'd agree, a very fine footballer.

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I would say he's one of the best.

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Yes, but he does occasionally bite people.

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Well, this is my point.

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In sport, you've got to be a role model.

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There's millions of kids watching you all over the world,

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and your job is to try and send a message through the TV screens

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for those kids to try and follow you.

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2010, Luis Suarez took a chunk out of someone's neck playing for Ajax.

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2013, he took a chunk out of someone's arm

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playing against Chelsea, and he took it onto the World Cup,

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he had a bite of an Italian.

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I don't mind him biting Italians, to be honest.

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-Now, what kind of an example is that to the children watching at home?

-LAUGHTER

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Don't you agree, especially as a man who was a captain of a major team,

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that you have to give geniuses a bit of leeway?

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You know, McEnroe, Cantona, Lindsay Lohan...

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But do you know what I mean? Let's say Freddie Flintoff had bitten Shane Warne.

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That would be fine.

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LAUGHTER

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But Michael, is there a thing where sportsmen aren't very clever,

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as in they're not the brightest people in the...

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-Not you, but other sportsmen...

-I would say you have a point.

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No matter how thick you are as a sportsperson...

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-Yeah. Who's the thickest?

-I think you've got to be...

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LAUGHTER

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We're going to be here all night now.

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He's going to reel off a list of thousands.

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-It's very difficult, isn't it, to...

-To be a sportsman and read a book?

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-Yeah...

-LAUGHTER

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-I would say that there's one thing being thick...

-Mm.

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But there's another thing biting someone.

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-Yeah.

-And then doing it a second time and a third time.

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Can I read you his statement to FIFA after the World Cup bite?

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He said, "I lost my balance and that destabilised my body

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"and I fell into my opponent.

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"In the moment, my face came into collision with the player, causing

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"a small bruise on my cheekbone and a lot of pain to my teeth."

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It's a bit like when these blokes turn up in A&E and they say,

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"When I flopped down on the sofa I forgot I'd put the cucumber there."

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LAUGHTER

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It's...

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I'd rather he'd have fessed up.

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I mean, I have to say, I don't think it's that bad, the biting thing.

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What?

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BOOING

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Ohh!

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I honestly don't know why there's such a big fuss about it.

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Because he...because he assaulted another man in the middle of a game.

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Well, for a start, one point, he's a brilliant player, and...

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Let's put it this way -

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if I thought he'd still got some pace and could organise a back four,

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I would happily have Charles Manson playing for West Bromwich Albion.

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Biting someone is not going to change the course of the game.

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He's bitten three people.

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None of them had to leave the pitch. None of them were badly injured...

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I don't see how you can... I mean, this is weird, Frank, you've become weird.

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No! I absolutely...

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I think enormous fuss has been... Let me give you an example.

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Michael Vaughan, right?

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Now, you will remember an incident where a batsman complained

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that you'd left some jelly beans on the pitch, do you remember this?

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-Absolutely.

-It was Zaheer Khan.

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And he said that the England team...

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First of all he said they'd left some jelly beans on the pitch

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to taunt him and that they were

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throwing jelly beans at him during... Sounds fairly minor.

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And then Michael Vaughan, captain of England, says, "We were wrong.

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"Because we were eating jelly beans in order to produce sweet saliva

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"to get the ball to swing." You're not really supposed to do that.

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-No, it was... Yeah, we were actually cheating.

-OK, you were cheating.

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You own up NOW quickly enough, don't you!

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But what I'm saying is, what you were doing, in my opinion,

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which could genuinely change the result of the game,

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is worse than biting someone.

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I think biting jelly beans is worse than biting "human beans".

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LAUGHTER

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-You are so weird right now, it's unbelievable.

-No, I...

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I think this, Michael Vaughan,

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is actually worse than this.

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LAUGHTER

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-Give over!

-I believe that, seriously.

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Apparently Suarez has been sent thousands

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of abusive letters about this, but he's never got them

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because the postman won't go anywhere near his house.

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OK, so what person winds up Sara?

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Now, sorry, guys, to make your things look really flippant,

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but I've chosen the Grim Reaper, and that is because I don't want to die.

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People have died before this so that we could evolve,

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so that humanity could improve, but now I am the end of evolution.

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I'm excellent. It's been perfected. Why should I have to go anywhere?

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LAUGHTER

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Well, you know, dying...

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I'm a Roman Catholic, so for me it's just like moving house.

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LAUGHTER

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I'm not really worried about it.

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You don't get to choose where you move to.

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Well, no, that's... You do if you live your life correctly.

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LAUGHTER

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The trouble is, if there's no death, where are Oxfam going to get their clothes from?

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Don't you think the concept of death is useful to us, even if

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-the actual thought of death itself is rather grim?

-OK.

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I recently ate too many chips one night,

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and it was a terrible evening. I'd gone out...

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You have a really hard life, don't you?

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LAUGHTER It's a sad story.

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I went to get chips for me and the wife, and I was so starving I ate all of mine.

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I must have eaten a portion that big of chips.

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Then I hate half of my wife's.

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By the time I went to bed, I probably had the size of like a

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large football of largely undigested undercooked potatoes in my stomach.

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Woke up in the middle of the night needing to try

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and move this terrible plug. Nothing was happening.

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I was sweating, I was moaning, walking up and down.

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I was banging my head, trying to put a cold towel on, I was in agony.

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Got no sympathy from my wife whatsoever.

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So at that stage, I was longing for the relief that death would bring.

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LAUGHTER

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If death did not exist, even as a concept,

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that would have been an even worse night than it already was.

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But it wasn't death that you needed, it was a bowel movement.

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-LAUGHTER

-That's a very fine line, that.

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Oh, imagine if I die before this goes out.

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-Wow.

-If you can just smile for a second and stay still,

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then we can use that photo on the end with your dates.

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LAUGHTER

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Let's hope not, though. Let's hope not.

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Funerals can be quite creative events though.

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I have some footage of a funeral.

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This was a woman who was a fanatical ten-pin bowler, and her friends

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clubbed together, paid some money and came up with this as a funeral.

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Take these last memories of the opportunity of serving

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your momma down here...

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by pushing her down.

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LAUGHTER

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When I pushed that casket, I just had this fantastic feeling come

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over me, like she was there, just helping me get it down the lane.

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THEY CHEER

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That's ridiculous.

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-What if she got lost down the back, like the ball does sometimes?

-LAUGHTER

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There's another on this same theme. This is a guy who...

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Obviously the deaths of these people are tragic,

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but the funerals have a light-hearted side.

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This is a bloke, and his great love -

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again this is an American thing, unsurprisingly,

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this is just the picture - his great love was breakfast, that's what

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he lived for, was to get up and have a big breakfast in the morning.

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This was the themed funeral that they genuinely went for.

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LAUGHTER

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What I love about that is the man who represents bacon...

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LAUGHTER

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..had thought, "I think I'll wear shades for this.

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"Otherwise it might look ridiculous."

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OK, so now we come to the end...

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Well, I do worry about getting rid of death, because I think

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there might come a time when I'm really looking forward to it.

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Suarez, I think is one of the great players in the world...

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BOOING

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-..and I'm not going to let the bigotry of the audience...

-LAUGHTER

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But I do think we have to be very careful about this wonderful English

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language that we all share, and we need to protect it and cosset it.

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So I am going to put, literally, people who use the word

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"literally" into Room 101.

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APPLAUSE

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Next category, please.

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It's Food & Drink.

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So what doesn't Michael like about food and drink?

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Pick 'n' Mix.

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-BOOING

-What a good response.

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What? Are you insane?

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-The crowd aren't disapproving, they're shocked.

-No, listen. I love sweets...

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I know that. Especially jelly beans.

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LAUGHTER

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..but I hate the fact that I go to a service station

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or a sweet shop with my three kids, and when I was growing up there was

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penny sweets, two-penny sweets, and you knew exactly

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what you were getting, and what you were paying for it.

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You go with your kids, and you're trying to direct them to the

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light sweets, because they put them on that weighing scale...

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and it's going to be cheaper.

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And they go straight for the gobstopper, or the massive

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cola bottles, which I'm pretty sure are now made out of lead.

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So my point is, wherever there's Pick 'n' Mix,

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you go to get ten cola bottles and it comes out at £4.86,

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where really it should be 30p, like the old days.

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There used to be a tradition, didn't there,

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of the tight-fisted Yorkshireman?

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LAUGHTER

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Obviously that was inaccurate.

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There are very few items in the Pick 'n' Mix

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I don't enjoy wholeheartedly, although I did once

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go a bit crazy on the fudge, and I ate so much I started crying.

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LAUGHTER

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I had a weird emotional response.

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I was sitting in a movie and I ate loads of fudge

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and they'd run out of the stuff I wanted.

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You know when you fill up the big carton? You get a carton.

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-What did it cost you?

-About £25.

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LAUGHTER

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I really, really, really like the sponge prawns.

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-Oh, God, you've all got awful taste in sweets.

-No, they're the best.

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-They're called a foam prawn, aren't they?

-Shrimps.

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-These are the ones I'm talking about.

-Yeah. Foam prawn.

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Foam prawn. It's also if you have a child that loses an ear.

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LAUGHTER

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Be no good if the child was Martin Clunes, though, would it?

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Then you could use the sponge banana.

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-Milk teeth - you know the famous milk teeth...?

-Yeah.

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-Nice.

-You can now get...

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-I know.

-..the toothbrushes to go with it, so you can...

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-It's all incredibly ironic.

-Yeah.

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Ironic that they would dare bring up dental health in the midst of a Pick 'n' Mix.

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That's how safe they feel!

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No, I think it's a beautiful thing

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and I'm happy to pay through the nose for it, I must say.

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I had a terrible thing recently

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when I realised that maybe I'm not the romantic I used to be.

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I ate a whole packet of Love Hearts

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and I realised I hadn't read any of them.

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LAUGHTER

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I don't understand this one - these are German,

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and they're called "cats' tongues".

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-Katzenzungen.

-Awww!

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And I thought, "Oh, these'll be like cats' tongues."

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Yeah.

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There they are.

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LAUGHTER

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Is that what cats' tongues look like?

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-Is it kind of... Cos cats' tongues are kind of rough, aren't they?

-Very rough.

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-I really want to eat that right now.

-Yeah.

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It's chocolate.

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-Don't cry...

-Good catch.

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Look and learn. APPLAUSE

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I've got a little chocolate furball forming at the back now.

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LAUGHTER

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-Very good furball impression - you studied this, I can tell.

-That's all I do these days.

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So what doesn't Sara like about food and drink?

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My one is stupid things that are said to vegetarians.

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I've been vegetarian since I was seven.

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I'm now vegan, because I'm fun-time, but people ask what you miss,

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and, "How do you get your protein?"

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And then, "You know we're supposed to eat meat?"

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like they've thought about it for longer than I have.

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"Oh, yeah? Really? Tell me more about this new theory you've got."

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I'm going to be totally honest, I had never really given this a great deal of thought...

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Oh, really?

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Until... I have a child, he was two, and I took him to this place,

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the City Farm, which is a little farm in the middle of London.

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And he was playing with the chickens,

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and they were doing that dust bath thing that chickens do

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and he was really laughing and loving it.

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And we got back home, and we put his lunch together

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and I said, "Here you are, here's some chicken" -

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and he looked at me...

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And I sensed he was thinking,

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"This better not be the same as those things you were encouraging me to like earlier."

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And it's one of the first times I've felt really bad about it.

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-Yeah.

-Not that I want to stop him eating chicken,

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I just wish people would come up with another name for the meat...

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LAUGHTER

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Like they have with pork and beef.

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It's so hard when you're abroad. I went to Norway do some gigs and they had said,

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"In Stavanger it's quite difficult, but there's one vegetarian restaurant."

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So I went to the vegetarian restaurant

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-and ordered a vegetarian salad, and it came with a beefburger on it.

-LAUGHTER

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But don't you miss beefburgers? LAUGHTER

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Oh, this is the other thing people'll say.

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They think they can catch you out with a moral thing, they go,

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"What about if I said I was going to kill a chicken unless you ate this chicken?"

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"Ah...

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"I'd call the police."

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-But we were hunter-gatherers, weren't we?

-Yeah.

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Well, we were gatherers first, and then we became...

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But hunter-gatherers - hunter gets top billing.

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THEY LAUGH

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Yeah, like Baddiel and Skinner.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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-Doesn't necessarily mean anything, Frank.

-No.

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But when you see drawings on cave walls, they're never gathering.

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-No.

-You don't get drawings of people walking round like that...

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One thing I sympathise for you is, I no longer drink alcohol

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because of er... I think the term is "alcoholism".

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LAUGHTER

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I went into a wine merchant's with a woman I was going out with

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at the time, and she was trying to buy a really nice

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bottle of wine for a friend, and this guy said to me, "Try this wine,

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"it's absolutely beautiful." And I said, "I won't, thank you."

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He said, "It really is absolutely beautiful."

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I said, "I really won't." He said, "Honestly, I insist you try this,"

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and I thought, "I'm going to have to say it."

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And I said, "Look, sorry, I'm an alcoholic."

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And he said, "Maybe a sparkling wine?"

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-LAUGHTER

-Yeah.

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So I have a certain sympathy, I must say.

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What about this idea that vegetables have feelings too?

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I have some photographic evidence

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which suggests that vegetables might be living creatures.

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Look at this. This is the hip-hop carrot.

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Wow. LAUGHTER

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The louche parsnip.

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Oh, he's lovely.

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And the runaway radish.

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Aww...!

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OK, then. What doesn't Jonathan like about food and drink?

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The snail. I do not enjoy eating the snail.

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You know no-one really likes it, because when it's served...

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How many people here have actually eaten snail?

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Quite a few. OK. How many people LIKE eating snail?

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LAUGHTER

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-You enjoy snail?

-Yeah.

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When I had snail, it was so covered in butter and garlic,

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that it might as well have been a mushroom in there, frankly.

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It really wasn't the snail you were eating

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because you didn't taste anything. You were eating it...

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And I can understand maybe way back in time when, you know,

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we WERE hunter-gatherers, obviously it's an easier thing to catch than

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many of the animals running around, so you can see why it would have

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been a dinner of hazelnut and snail, because boom, boom, boom, boom.

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But it's not a tasty dish.

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And - just look at it. It's bloody disgusting.

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Eurrgh, a big slimy...

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I don't even want to know what that...stuff is coming out -

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I don't even want to know where it comes OUT of.

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All over the path. And at night when you go out -

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I go into the garden at night sometimes to take

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the dogs out in the evening, and sometimes I do a wee in the garden,

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I don't mind admitting that, to encourage the dogs to join me.

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LAUGHTER

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I'm the leader of the pack.

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So I'm out in the garden... Right?

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So I'm probably not wearing much.

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You walk out, and you're barefoot - you tread on a snail at night,

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it's a horrible feeling. Crunch, then...

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I really don't want to eat it.

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So I don't like being given snails to eat.

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I don't really like snails. And I'm not squeamish about weird food.

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I like an oyster. Oh, I love an oyster.

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Oh, I don't. I think it's like licking phlegm off a tortoise.

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LAUGHTER

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Maybe I don't like them as much as I used to, but...

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LAUGHTER

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In terms of all the innards bits,

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any time meat is not in the shape that you cut it...

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I don't mind that. I know when I'm eating hot dogs I'm probably eating

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the foreskin of a cow, and that's fine.

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-I think a cow is female.

-Is it? OK.

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LAUGHTER

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Well, they do a lot of stuff with genetics these days with animals.

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I like... There's something exciting and different about it.

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I like the accoutrements, I like the little forks.

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Have you ever seen these?

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No, I don't believe. Aren't they haberdashers' scissors?

0:22:520:22:56

-These are grape scissors.

-Wow.

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What?

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So you do this thing where when you want a bunch of grapes,

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you don't want to take off the whole bunch so you use them to

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just cut a small section.

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Why wouldn't you use normal scissors?

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What's the difference between the normal scissors?

0:23:110:23:14

-They've got grapes on the handles.

-You know what they're for.

0:23:140:23:16

If you take those out when you're watching West Brom at the weekend...

0:23:160:23:20

LAUGHTER

0:23:200:23:22

Referee, throw us a snail.

0:23:220:23:24

I'm a bit peckish.

0:23:240:23:27

You know how when someone has got a particular problem, they wear,

0:23:270:23:30

like, a bracelet or a necklace so the ambulance driver knows?

0:23:300:23:33

Yeah, like an allergy.

0:23:330:23:34

-You need a laminated thing in all your dinner jackets...

-"No snails."

0:23:340:23:37

The whole instructions, just why you don't like them,

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all of your thoughts and feelings.

0:23:400:23:41

Just show it to the manager or the waitress.

0:23:410:23:43

That is a feminine approach, to say, "All your thoughts and feelings."

0:23:430:23:47

I don't think I need all my thoughts and feelings on the card.

0:23:470:23:49

OK. You're the one eating fudge and crying, mate,

0:23:490:23:52

-before you make any comments about gender.

-APPLAUSE

0:23:520:23:55

I'm not ashamed of crying over fudge.

0:23:550:23:57

Well, we come to the end of that round.

0:23:580:24:01

I'm not going to put snails in, because it is the closest

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I get to sophistication, and I do have a soft spot for them.

0:24:050:24:10

They're like little foreign tourists with their backpacks.

0:24:100:24:14

Pick 'n' Mix, I would pay twice as much.

0:24:140:24:18

It's such a joyous, exciting,

0:24:180:24:20

'who knows what's round the corner?' experience.

0:24:200:24:23

But I sympathise and empathise with...

0:24:230:24:26

I think it's hard enough being a vegetarian

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without people asking stupid questions.

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So I'm going to put stupid things that people say to

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-vegetarians into Room 101.

-Yeah! Yeah!

0:24:340:24:36

APPLAUSE

0:24:360:24:38

Thank you. Yeah.

0:24:400:24:42

Good call. Well argued.

0:24:420:24:43

Right, let's have our next category, please.

0:24:470:24:50

It's the Wildcard. There's no restraints.

0:24:550:24:57

You can pick anything at all that you don't like.

0:24:570:25:00

What is Sara's wild card?

0:25:000:25:01

LAUGHTER

0:25:050:25:08

Right. I have picked time as my wild card.

0:25:080:25:11

I'm getting rid of time.

0:25:110:25:12

Can we say, this is Old Father Time.

0:25:120:25:14

We just put a watch on the Grim Reaper.

0:25:140:25:16

Oh, I see. I didn't even see the watch. Yeah.

0:25:160:25:19

Well, yeah. I just think we should get rid of time.

0:25:190:25:22

I think we should do things when we want to do things.

0:25:220:25:24

I think... I don't like having to go out for people's birthdays.

0:25:240:25:28

Sometimes I really feel like going out two days before that and nothing

0:25:280:25:32

is going on, and then on their birthday I don't want to go out.

0:25:320:25:34

I want to get up when I've finished sleeping.

0:25:340:25:37

I want to go to bed when I want to sleep.

0:25:370:25:39

I think we should all go to work for as long as it takes to

0:25:390:25:41

do our work, and when our work's finished we can leave.

0:25:410:25:43

You're describing my son, who's a student.

0:25:430:25:46

That's his life right there.

0:25:460:25:47

How would you have known what time to be here today?

0:25:470:25:50

I did think about that.

0:25:500:25:52

Someone would have rung up and gone, "Would you like to come on Room 101?"

0:25:520:25:57

I'd say yes.

0:25:570:25:58

That would have been the end of the conversation because

0:25:580:26:02

I couldn't ask when because there's no time and they couldn't tell me when.

0:26:020:26:06

So I'd just have to come here one day

0:26:060:26:08

with a little collection of props I've made myself

0:26:080:26:11

and just chuck 'em down.

0:26:110:26:13

I can't help but think you're losing faith in this.

0:26:130:26:17

No, I live my life by these rules.

0:26:170:26:20

How would... How would it affect other people, though?

0:26:200:26:24

Because if we all operate on different times...

0:26:240:26:27

First of all, it would be chaotic.

0:26:270:26:29

So, for instance, you want to go somewhere.

0:26:290:26:32

You decide you do want to go somewhere, and the bus driver,

0:26:320:26:35

there's no timetable.

0:26:350:26:37

He or she drives along, at some point,

0:26:370:26:40

because they have to do their job to get paid.

0:26:400:26:42

So you might be waiting there for quite a long time.

0:26:420:26:45

It might be frustrating, but eventually I think we'd all

0:26:450:26:47

relax about these constraints and realise actually life is

0:26:470:26:50

happening all the time, whether I'm waiting for a bus or not.

0:26:500:26:52

-Enjoy the journey, guys.

-Have you ever been on holiday to Jamaica?

0:26:520:26:55

-No.

-Very similar approach there.

0:26:550:26:58

I waited two days for a bus out there.

0:26:580:27:01

You're quite right about it being arbitrary.

0:27:010:27:03

During the French Revolution, they brought in metric time.

0:27:030:27:07

There was ten metric hours in a day.

0:27:070:27:11

100 metric minutes in a metric hour

0:27:110:27:14

and 100 metric seconds in a metric minute

0:27:140:27:17

and ten days in a metric week.

0:27:170:27:19

-They just decided that that was that.

-Crazy.

0:27:190:27:22

You can actually buy... This is a metric clock.

0:27:220:27:26

A great thing to have hanging up at home because people take a bit of time to work out

0:27:260:27:30

what the hell's weird about it.

0:27:300:27:32

I love it.

0:27:320:27:33

Not in your house. You're sitting there eating snails,

0:27:330:27:36

watching Suarez bite your kids.

0:27:360:27:38

"This is the life."

0:27:390:27:40

The thing is with time, is that we could...we can deny it,

0:27:420:27:45

but eventually we age and become older.

0:27:450:27:49

-It beats us, doesn't it?

-Well, we won't know, because...

0:27:490:27:51

-Oh, you'll know.

-..you've decided when your birthdays are.

0:27:510:27:54

Believe me, you'll know. I had a situation two weeks ago.

0:27:540:27:57

I couldn't remember the name of a West Bromwich Albion player,

0:27:570:28:02

a main player in the team, who I've seen play many times.

0:28:020:28:06

So I spent two hours, and I got it.

0:28:060:28:07

I got it and I remembered, and I was telling someone this story two

0:28:070:28:12

days later, and I couldn't remember which player I couldn't remember.

0:28:120:28:16

LAUGHTER

0:28:160:28:18

OK, what is Jonathan's wild card?

0:28:180:28:21

Boom. My wild card is, and this seems to be a growing trend.

0:28:260:28:29

It annoys me every time I see it, is when they have commercials,

0:28:290:28:32

or you see posters, and they're using dead celebrities -

0:28:320:28:35

who clearly can't give their consent - to advertise stuff.

0:28:350:28:38

I hate it.

0:28:380:28:40

There's an online shopping store where you can buy clothes,

0:28:400:28:43

quite expensive men's designer clothes.

0:28:430:28:45

Their new advert is Frank Sinatra coming off a private jet,

0:28:450:28:48

and Frank Sinatra looked great, didn't he?

0:28:480:28:50

Very few people have ever looked as good as Frank Sinatra,

0:28:500:28:53

but he's carrying a shopping bag with the name of this thing on.

0:28:530:28:56

Admittedly, it is a service that maybe he would use,

0:28:560:28:59

it's not like he's carrying a Lidl or Aldi bag,

0:28:590:29:02

so it's somewhere he might have gone if he were still alive,

0:29:020:29:05

but he isn't and he hasn't given his permission.

0:29:050:29:08

There's the advert selling chocolate, which,

0:29:080:29:10

it looks like Audrey Hepburn in the advert.

0:29:100:29:13

It's an incredible feat of technology, and

0:29:130:29:15

I admire the people doing it for the skill they're putting into it, but

0:29:150:29:18

it looks like Audrey Hepburn in some beautiful sort of Italian

0:29:180:29:20

fishing village, missing a bus, and it's all to sell a chocolate bar.

0:29:200:29:24

We have that. Would you like to...?

0:29:240:29:25

Well, no, I clearly don't want to see it.

0:29:250:29:27

Why are you rubbing my face in it? What's wrong with you, Frank?

0:29:270:29:30

-Just to illustrate.

-OK, let's do that. An aide-memoire.

0:29:300:29:32

Can I say, one thing I've noticed about this Audrey Hepburn,

0:29:320:29:35

is Audrey Hepburn, when she eats chocolate, she doesn't chew.

0:29:350:29:39

She swallows it like a lozenge.

0:29:390:29:40

LAUGHTER

0:29:400:29:42

Gone. Weird. Anyway, here's Audrey enjoying a bit of choc.

0:29:420:29:46

MUSIC: Moon River

0:29:460:29:49

LAUGHTER

0:30:060:30:09

-Like a lizard. She just swallowed it.

-Yeah.

0:30:090:30:11

But, you know, it is an incredible feat.

0:30:110:30:13

What worries me is they might start doing movies this way as well.

0:30:130:30:16

And you think, OK, obviously a lot of what actors choose

0:30:160:30:19

a part for is, you know, they're doing it...it's their living.

0:30:190:30:21

But they choose films because it's something they want to do, whether

0:30:210:30:24

they want the challenge, or they want to be in that particular movie.

0:30:240:30:27

Sometimes it's just for cash.

0:30:270:30:29

I mean, Michael Caine famously did Jaws IV, and when critics

0:30:290:30:32

afterwards said it was a terrible movie,

0:30:320:30:34

he said, "Well, I've never seen the film, but I've seen the house

0:30:340:30:36

"that I bought with the money, and that's marvellous."

0:30:360:30:39

LAUGHTER

0:30:390:30:40

But here's the thing. That was his choice, you know.

0:30:400:30:43

No, I can see that it's morally...

0:30:430:30:46

I mean, I've heard that they've got Churchill now advertising insurance.

0:30:460:30:50

LAUGHTER

0:30:500:30:53

Don't encourage him any more.

0:30:530:30:55

I did a voiceover when I first started in which I had to say,

0:30:550:31:00

"Don't know where to start? Exchange and Mart."

0:31:000:31:04

This advertising exec comes round and said,

0:31:040:31:06

"You need more passion in this.

0:31:060:31:09

"You're really angry. Remember that you know

0:31:090:31:11

"about Exchange and Mart, these people don't.

0:31:110:31:14

"I want to hear that anger in your voice."

0:31:140:31:16

So I said, "Don't know where to start?! Exchange and Mart!"

0:31:160:31:19

He said, "I think you can give it a bit more." By the end I'm going,

0:31:190:31:23

"You don't know where to start?! What's the matter with you people?!"

0:31:230:31:27

I found out the next advert he did was for British Telecom

0:31:270:31:31

in which the voiceover was done by Professor Stephen Hawking.

0:31:310:31:34

How did that work?

0:31:340:31:37

Was he saying, "A little bit louder.

0:31:370:31:39

"Try block capitals."

0:31:390:31:41

LAUGHTER

0:31:410:31:42

-Well, let me... Just to lighten things a bit.

-Yeah.

0:31:440:31:47

This is an advert with a living...

0:31:470:31:49

she was living, and this is Doris Day advertising steam rollers.

0:31:490:31:54

LAUGHTER

0:31:540:31:56

That's brilliant, isn't it?

0:31:560:31:58

And can I read you some of the text on this?

0:31:580:32:01

"When Doris Day needs road rolling equipment, you can

0:32:010:32:04

"bet she's going to turn to a name she's known and trusted for years."

0:32:040:32:08

"The Series 56 is available with both manual and power steering

0:32:100:32:14

"which is gonna thrill a slip of a gal like Doris."

0:32:140:32:18

It's a bit worrying that it's got a lamp on the front.

0:32:190:32:22

How much steam rolling do you do at night?

0:32:220:32:25

Surely that's asking for trouble.

0:32:250:32:27

That's when she's after snails.

0:32:270:32:29

But I do like the look of that vehicle.

0:32:290:32:31

Listen to this.

0:32:310:32:32

"No, Doris, there isn't a vanity mirror,

0:32:320:32:34

"but the International Series 56 will have your tarmac

0:32:340:32:38

"compressed in time for you to stop off at the beauty salon to

0:32:380:32:42

"have your hair done and cook a tasty dinner for your husband."

0:32:420:32:45

LAUGHTER

0:32:450:32:48

OK, let's have a look at Michael's wild card.

0:32:480:32:51

-Miming.

-Mmm.

0:32:540:32:56

Singers that mime.

0:32:560:32:59

We, as a family, I don't know if you're all like our sad family,

0:32:590:33:02

-on a Saturday night, the other channel...

-Yeah.

0:33:020:33:04

We sit around and watch the show, and there's four judges,

0:33:040:33:08

and they judge shop workers, fishmongers,

0:33:080:33:12

-who sing live in front of 12 million people.

-Mmm.

0:33:120:33:15

And then Dermot O'Reilly comes onstage

0:33:150:33:17

-and introduces a world famous...

-"Dermot O'Reilly?" Are you miming?

0:33:170:33:22

It's got a very camp thing, isn't it? Dermot? Oh, really?

0:33:220:33:26

LAUGHTER

0:33:260:33:28

He comes onstage and he introduces a megastar,

0:33:290:33:33

sold three billion albums worldwide,

0:33:330:33:36

and then they go and mime onstage in front of the four judges.

0:33:360:33:39

And I just watch it and go, what other jobs in the world can

0:33:390:33:43

you actually get paid thousands, yet you can mime doing it?

0:33:430:33:47

So I'm getting rid of miming singers. Do your job.

0:33:470:33:50

Get on the mic and sing.

0:33:500:33:52

-That's a very good point.

-Mmm.

0:33:520:33:54

I know Margaret Thatcher hated it as...

0:33:540:33:57

No, that was mining.

0:33:590:34:00

LAUGHTER

0:34:000:34:04

APPLAUSE

0:34:040:34:06

I just can't understand that...

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Is there any other job that you can think of

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where someone could just press play?

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Autopilot.

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There's one.

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Disc jockey. Loads.

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There's loads, yeah. There's millions.

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LAUGHTER

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Have you ever done that thing when you just get an edge off the bat

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and then you do that, pretending it's hit you on the arm?

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-Yes.

-That's miming.

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LAUGHTER

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That's cheating.

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How are you with animals miming?

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I've never met one.

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Well, I'm going to...

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This is a cat.

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And can I say, this isn't computer-messed-about-with.

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What the guy is doing,

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he's just sticking his finger in the tickly bit on a cat's ribcage,

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and this what can be produced with that technique.

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# Just take those old records off the shelf

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# I'll sit and listen to 'em by myself

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# Today's music ain't got the same soul

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# I like that old time rock and roll. #

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Ah, lovely cat.

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Kind of looks like it's enjoying it.

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Don't you think he looks like he's enjoying the attention?

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He does. I worry about the thick bandana.

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It makes me worry that they might have grafted a cat's head

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onto a speaker.

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We ought to even things up a bit.

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So this is a woman playing her dog as if it were a banjo.

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BANJO MUSIC PLAYS

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That's a teddy, isn't it?

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Look at his little legs going.

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He loves it.

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There's another one under the chair. "When's it going to be my turn?"

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He's getting left out.

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Aah!

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You've got his pal under the chair saying,

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-"When is it my go?"

-She plays him like the drums.

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Yeah, I was hoping Pete Townsend would come in, do a bit

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and then smash it up against the speaker.

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Here's a bit of miming you might find interesting, Michael.

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This is a karaokimal, which is a terrible piece of compound wording

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which means the karaoke animal.

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Here he is.

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He looks like Suarez.

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LAUGHTER

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You plug him into whatever you keep your sounds on

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and he will sing along. Let me give you an example.

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# Oh my-y love... #

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You get the picture.

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It also responds to your actual voice.

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He could actually host this show...

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..if I didn't make it one week.

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So let's try this.

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Well done, Jonathan and Sara, with your choices,

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but I'm going to put miming into Room 101.

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APPLAUSE

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Yeah, me too. I thought that too.

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And that brings us to the end of the show.

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Well done, Jonathan, you were the most persuasive guest tonight,

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-so you are this week's winner.

-Oh, thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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Thanks very much to Jonathan Ross, Michael Vaughan

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and Sara Pascoe, and thank you, good night.

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