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Hello, I'm Frank Skinner and welcome to Room 101,

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the show where three guests explain what really winds them up,

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in the hope that I'll condemn said thing to the grim environs of Room 101.

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Our guests' choices have been sorted into categories

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and, in each round, only one item can be chosen.

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The final decision is mine.

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As an example, let's try and decide the worst from this group of three.

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I should say they're not all that easy.

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So let's meet the guests.

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Joining me tonight are presenter Lauren Laverne,

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actor Larry Lamb and comedian David O'Doherty.

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Right then, let's get the first category.

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Modern Life.

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So let's see what Lauren Laverne doesn't like about modern life.

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OK. Look at this, this is what I don't like about modern life.

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Oh, look, this is fine. Is this fine?

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Is this fine?

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No, this isn't fine. I hate fake tan.

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Do you really?

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I hate fake tan. Look.

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That is deeply un-fine and needs to go in Room 101.

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But you quite like applying them, liberally.

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It has become normal to dye our skin from the top of our head

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to our toes, all year round.

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We look back into history and we look at people with their...

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in the 17th century, with their powdered wigs

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and their beauty spot and corsets and we laugh at them.

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And, like, right now, we're walking around

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looking like a nation of Oompa Loompas.

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It's insane and it must end.

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I know, it's like seasonal fruit.

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When I was a young man, you had to wait for things like sprouts.

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I heard a rumour that there was one magazine cover star who wanted to

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fake-tan the baby for the "meeting the baby" shoot, at two weeks old!

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-Can't be right.

-Yeah, I mean, surely the obvious thing is to just dip them, isn't it?

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I mean, I have to defend, certainly spray tan, is that it is

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probably healthier than actual sun-tanning and it's quicker.

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I like to think that what's happened is that man has taken nature

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and improved it, you know. Like with, say, Nesquik.

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I had a spray tan once in my life. I did it for...

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I did it for professional reasons, can I point that out?

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I had to do a show where you did five things that you've never

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done before, so I went for a spray tan, and the woman said to me,

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"So how strong do you want to go?"

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And I thought, you know, builders.

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They sprayed me and I was amazed.

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I don't know, people here probably have had spray tans,

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I thought it stayed, but it was... I got out of bed the next morning,

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my fitted sheet looked like the Turin Shroud.

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The flamingos in Dublin Zoo were... they weren't pink any more,

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they were losing their pinkness,

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so they had to add some pink dye to the food they were giving them.

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So maybe that's it,

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maybe people who work as air hostesses just drink a lot of Fanta.

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I went in one of these standy-up ones, where you...

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-The stand and tan.

-No, no, this was like bars on the wall and you stand in there,

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they play Europop and you dance naked.

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It has its pluses.

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I'd never been before, and they give you two little golden cones

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to put in your eyes so your eyes don't burn out.

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So I wedged those in, so I got these two pointy bits

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and I went in there, I said, "I'll have 18 minutes."

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That was the max you could have.

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I got very burnt.

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Particularly in one particular area

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where not normally exposed to the sun at all.

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And when I went back, I said,

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"I couldn't have three of those gold cones, could I?"

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OK, so let's see what Larry Lamb doesn't like about modern life.

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High fives.

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Ah!

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-Eh?

-I'm with you.

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Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Oh, dear.

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I mean, talk about a fad.

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It drives me crazy, everybody's doing it, you just

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sort of expect the Queen, the Pope, everybody to be high-fiving.

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You've got President Obama. It seems to be the way that people,

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somehow or other, have accepted they've got to sort of show that

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they're kind of hip to what's going on when they greet each other.

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-But aren't they a lovely, warm greeting, Larry?

-No.

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It just makes me feel really angry when they do it.

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I don't want to do it, no.

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What do you do when people do it to you? Do you just go, "Argh, no!"?

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-Yeah, no, I don't do any...

-Do you join in? If someone comes up and goes, "Hey, Larry," what do you do?

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No, how are you doing?

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-Oh, oh, you've directly challenged their...

-Absolute direct challenge.

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..greeting.

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I met Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I'd never heard of a low five,

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and he went...

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And I sort of shook hands with him sideways.

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It was really pathetic. He gave me a withering look.

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But it's a very American thing, isn't it?

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It is. Well, I'm not anti...

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And I kind of, they're more expressive, because I think

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the standard British greeting, instead of the high five, is...

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There are worse things that have come from America. I mean,

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you know, the drive-by shooting, for example.

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This clip illustrates that if you are going to high-five someone,

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make sure that they're kind of ready for it,

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and a white stick is something to look out for.

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We'll see. We'll see where it goes. I am pumped.

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As you should be.

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Well, I'm giving you a high five.

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Congratulations, there it is.

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Anyway, let's have a look at David's choice in the Modern Life category.

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TENSE MUSIC

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Frank, this is a big one,

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the thing I hate more than possibly anything else...

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is fake tension in light entertainment television programmes.

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From my memory, it would have started...

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I remember Eurovisions in the 1980s,

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it was possibly an accident originally that the man reading out

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the results for the Swiss jury just went, "And twelve points goes to...

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"..Malta."

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And all of Europe went, "Ooh!"

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Well, I seem to... It's been around longer than that.

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Doesn't the King use it in The King's Speech?

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Oh, yeah.

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I think when he said, "We are currently at war with..."

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And the whole nation's going, "Who? Who are we at war with?"

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I think I hate it because I am so easily emotionally manipulated,

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so I'm, "Oh, really? Who's going to be knocked out of Celebrity Fly Fishing this week?"

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I think the worst bit is when they really try to tease them.

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They'll lead them one way and then the other,

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so you get the look into the eye and they say, "I'm sorry, it's bad news.

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"You're going to have to spend a bit longer with me. Ha-ha!

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"At least long enough for me to tell you that you're going home.

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"And when you get home, I want you to pack your suitcase and come right back here!

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"Only then will I finally admit that I'm truly sorry that

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"I didn't tell you straightaway

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"that you're in the next round!"

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It's... I mean, it's cruel.

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But I love it.

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I think the brilliant thing about that tension moment,

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that dramatic pause,

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is that you can make almost anything sound really, really exciting.

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There was one more ingredient to this battle, our secret ingredient,

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the theme on which our chefs will offer their succulent variations.

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Today's secret ingredient is...

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..potatoes!

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But there's no real drama on television,

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so they turn reality television into drama. That's the problem, you know.

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That's a bitter actor speaking there, Larry.

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Me and Larry agree. Put it there!

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Anyway, I now come to my choice, and in the Modern Life category,

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what I'm going to put in Room 101 is...

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TENSE MUSIC

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HE WHISTLES

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I'll tell you after the break.

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Sorry... Oh, BBC.

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OK, so I am going to put fake tans into Room 101.

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OK, let's move on to the next category.

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Going Out. What does Larry Lamb not like about going out?

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Confusing loo signs.

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The bane of people my age, I'm sure, you know.

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Bad enough to be constantly in a rush needing to get there,

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but going in the wrong one almost, you know, ready to explode, is just

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terribly embarrassing and it seems to happen more and more and more.

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-Yeah.

-Sometimes, it's just because you catch things at the wrong angle

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and you're so anxious to get in there, and the door's half-open, half-closed, and you just see it.

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-But...

-Just save it for the jury, will you?

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It even got worse for me on the internal signs on one of these new-fangled ones

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on a big sort of super-train in England, funnily enough,

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one of these revolving ones.

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And I got myself all safely stowed and ready settled...

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-You didn't lock.

-..everything ready, and pressed the button that closes

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and it was the wrong one, and I'm sitting there

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and this person is standing in front of the door just staring at me,

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and I'm staring at him, saying, "Hello, I'm Archie Mitchell.

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"How you doing?" I mean, unreal.

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It's a great reveal though.

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-It's a great reveal, and that's the kind of...

-Larry Lamb!

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It's the terror of it, just gradually, you think,

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"It's opening, it's opening, it's opening!"

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-I know, but if ever they bring back Stars In Their Eyes...

-Yeah!

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In case you're not familiar with these signs,

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here's a few toilet signs.

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This one, I think, is very clever, this first one.

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Don't you think that's good, Larry? That's inventive.

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It's good. It's good. I get that.

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-Oh, so you're all right with that one?

-I'm all right with that one.

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This one, I think's a bit trickier.

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People from the 18th century and in flying wheelchairs.

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Is that disabled?

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I thought it was just someone who had one of those Space Hopper things.

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What about this one? This is...

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See, that, to me, looks like a giant with a quiff

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creeping up on a man at a urinal.

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Can you see that?

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Just about to bite him on the bottom.

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So I've got to say, Larry, that I...

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If that's his willy, what on earth is that thing on the other side?!

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That's his bottom.

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Good Lord! Unbelievable.

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I've only ever been in a ladies toilet once and that was...

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We were on a very, very good conga.

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The sort of conga you have to get the bus back to where you began from.

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OK, what doesn't Lauren Laverne like about going out?

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Look at that, Frank. Square plates.

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Square plates, because when a square plate arrives,

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what it immediately tells you is that you're in a restaurant

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that is not quite as good a restaurant as it thinks it is.

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I mean, don't get me wrong, everything doesn't have to be fancy,

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but I think, actually, that's my point.

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It's the stuff in the middle.

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I like a really properly fancy, really lovely restaurant,

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and I love, like, a bag of chips on the beach, you can't go past that.

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I think those two extremes are fantastic.

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But this in the middle, with the square plates,

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and the food in little piles.

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Why, why is this?

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I don't know. I think there's a lot of KFC regulars here going...

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what is that?

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But on a practical level, have you ever chased peas with

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a knife and fork round a circular plate?

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I've been lapped by a cherry tomato.

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I think the theory is,

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it's supposed to represent like a frame for a work of art.

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Yeah, that's the problem, it's food going into art, isn't it?

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Food going into art makes fart, though, Larry.

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That's not something anybody wants to think about when they're having their dinner.

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It also says to me,

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"After this meal, you are still going to be quite hungry."

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I went to quite a posh restaurant, right, and they gave me - I'm not kidding you -

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gave me a chopping board with the ingredients for a sandwich on it,

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but they just hadn't made you the flippin' sandwich.

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And it was like, "Hang on, I'm giving you 12 quid for this.

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"Can you not take it back and make us a sandwich? I have to make my own?"

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Are you sure you weren't working there at the time?

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OK, well, I think that looks nice, personally,

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but you've made your point.

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What doesn't David like about going out?

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I have a big problem with ostentatious dressers

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who don't like people looking at them.

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This comes from an incident in Spar, the popular shop, recently.

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I'm doing pretty well, and there was a man, a very fashionable man

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in his twenties with the sort of little trousers and little shoes,

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and he had a trenchcoat on and a sort of a little moustachey thing.

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And then round his neck, he had a stoat, and then

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an old lady kind of lady killer, one with the arms and the head, like...

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..who was staring at the other people in...

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Can I say, I'm not totally sure they have arms.

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With his... Well, of course they have arms.

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What are they, just a tube? They roll around, stoats.

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Are they not legs?

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Legs are arms.

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Oh, I see what this is,

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this is the argument as to whether dogs have arms and legs.

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Yes.

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-Or whether they have four legs in the first place.

-They have four legs, surely.

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Not in Ireland. In Ireland, we're very clear about this.

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You see a table, there are the arms, there are the legs.

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The man with the stoat, he looked over at me as if to say,

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"I'm just trying to live my life, leave me alone."

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And I think what annoyed me about it was that when I was

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growing up, people who dressed in the most outlandish costumes were goths,

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you know, or were punks, and they were trying to shock the world.

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And they were saying, "Look at me, I don't care!" You know? "Ha-ha!

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"That's right, I've put an egg in my hair."

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And this was someone...

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I remember that fashion.

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This was someone from my crappy generation, who just

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couldn't make up their mind whether it was meant to be

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a cool thing they wanted people to look at, or just like,

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"Don't look... Look at me! Don't look... Look at me! Don't look at me."

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That was the annoying thing.

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He might have been being savaged.

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OK, well, as I come to look at these things,

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I like the sort of non-uniformity of the square plate,

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I like that it's challenging the norm.

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I think that David staring is just a little bit taking the mickey,

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and I can understand those people getting upset.

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Larry, you've won me over.

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I didn't realise it, I thought they were just imagination,

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but they can be traumatic, I realise that now.

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So I am going to put misleading loo signs into Room 101.

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For the old folks.

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Let's take a look at the next category.

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This is the Wildcard round, because sometimes, we feel

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we constrain you too much in your hatred and dislikes.

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So now there's no restraints, no category,

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you can choose whatever you like.

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And we're going to start with Larry.

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What is Larry's wildcard?

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I suppose it's going back to where we were with David,

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it's people who actually go out in public in fancy dress.

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-Ah.

-It's that thing of... God, it's my old Captain Hook hat.

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I suppose it's when you're an actor

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and you get to dress up all the time, it's...

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But look, you can't resist it, Larry!

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-I know, exactly.

-Oh, that's good.

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Well, I think it's silly to leave it all in the box for you.

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Ooh, you've gone a bit camp in that hat.

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Oh, I do! That's the thing. It depends.

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You see, you get... Ooh, look at this one here!

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Ooh! But, no...

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I can see you're a man who's utterly governed by headgear.

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Completely, sweetheart!

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But no, the thing is, just as David was saying,

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it's people wandering around in fancy dress.

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I'll tell you what I like, I'm not very keen on the hire shop.

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I think if you go to a fancy dress party or wear fancy dress,

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it should be stuff you just find at home.

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That seems to be the craic.

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Like, I had this... I thought this was a very clever idea,

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to go to a fancy dress party dressed as my girlfriend, right?

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At least that's what I told her when she came home early.

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Larry, now, I'm not taking the mick now,

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but are you not tempted to go to fancy dress things as a lamb?

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Ooh, ooh, if only you knew how far off the beam you are there.

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We've got a clip from a local news story about a man who did go to

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a fancy dress party as Larry the Lamb and things went horribly wrong.

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About a month ago, Peter Buck was out celebrating

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on a fancy dress bus party for a birthday.

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But when a bit of his Larry the Lamb costume came loose,

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he and some friends decided to burn it off with a lighter.

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In moments, his entire outfit was alight.

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It was here outside the Drunken Duck where Pete's costume burst into flames.

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In a panic, he ran out into the street.

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A passing car had to swerve to avoid hitting him.

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Now, fortunately for Pete, one of the friends out with him

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that night was firefighter Paul Bisson,

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who, as it happens, was dressed as Jesus Christ on the night.

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He chased after Pete, telling him to stop, drop and roll,

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but eventually had to bear-hug him to help put out the flames.

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I should say, for those of you at home who are worried, that he

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had a few burns on his arms, but he's perfectly all right now.

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Especially with a bit of mint sauce.

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OK, let's have a look what is Lauren's wild card.

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Flags.

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You don't like flags?

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Nothing good has ever come from a flag.

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Wars, nationalism, racism, Geri Halliwell at the Brits that time.

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Nothing good has ever come out of a flag.

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And linesmen.

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Well, I don't know, I mean...

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Actually, it would be tough for a linesman if you put flags in Room 101.

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They'd have to run up and down going...

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Well, all right, maybe there's practical problems for it,

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but I mean, I think they're divisive, I think they're bad for humankind.

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Broadly, I'm not saying they weren't necessary in the past,

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but I think now, it's time to move on and, you know, we're all on one little

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quite vulnerable planet, we all need to work together as a people.

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I mean, I'd maybe allow, like, a plain white flag with the name

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of each country written across, in a pre-globally agreed font.

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In regulation font size.

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You wouldn't see anybody waving that and starting a war with it.

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Nobody would be making them into beach towels.

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I've got some examples of what I think are brilliant flags.

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This is the Sicilian flag.

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You know, I think I saw that act in cabaret.

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It's Sicily, so it's probably just the Mafia cut off her legs.

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Well, they actually added a leg.

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Or as you'd say in Ireland, they added an arm.

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This was the flag for Benin, in Africa.

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Ooh! You see, this is what I'm talking about.

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-This is exactly it.

-I mean, that's just looking for trouble.

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Also, it looks like the man on the right was trying to tippy-toe past.

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He wasn't even looking for trouble. "Oh, he hasn't seen me...

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"Ow!"

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OK, I'm taking that onboard.

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What is David's wildcard?

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It's not Alex from the One Show?

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It is being 35 years old.

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I've recently become 35 and I realise age ain't nothing

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but a number, but it is also a very accurate barometer of how old you are.

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And 35 is the first truly disappointing age.

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You just never hear of 35 year olds doing anything

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particularly innovative or interesting.

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You're not young any more, and anyway,

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if you look at the news, it's this seven year old has invented

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the internet on crisps, or whatever it is.

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But 35 year olds, it's always much darker,

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it's always - the suspect,

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35, exposed himself to

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the mourners in the pet cemetery, or whatever it happens to be.

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But I should say that Van Gogh painted the Sunflowers

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when he was 35.

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And look how he turned out!

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Well, I don't know about... I don't have terrible sympathy,

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as I am about 20 years older.

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-I know, but...

-No, you don't know.

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-I realise...

-You think you know.

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I'll tell you what I've started to get just lately, Larry,

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and see if we're brothers in this, I've started to find

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-that my throat is getting slightly affected by breeze.

-By breeze.

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-Yeah.

-You start feeling cold in places you've never felt cold.

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-No, I'm on about it actually moves, my throat.

-Oh, does it?

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-I occasionally wear a dicky bow as a wind break.

-Do you?

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I would say 30 is probably the cut-off point.

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I think you're being a bit optimistic, 35.

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I always thought I was fairly washed-up...

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I went to a Club 18/30 do, I got completely mixed up,

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I went as Alfred Lord Tennyson.

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For the first time, I had a creaky knee and I went to the doctor,

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and rather than prescribing a cure or anything, he just went,

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you're 35!

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But that is what happens.

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I did my back in. I was standing backstage

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and a young comedian came up to me and said, "Are you all right?"

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I said, "No, my back's killing me."

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He said, "Oh, what happened?" And I suddenly realised that when you get older,

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injuries don't come with an anecdote any more.

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They used to be, I fell off a horse,

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or I was climbing a wall drunk.

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Now, I woke up one morning and it just hurt.

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What happened? It was erosion.

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You used to work in marketing.

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18 to 35 is, that's, isn't that a classic category?

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Well, the categories that we worked on, in my tele-marketing era,

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was the zero to 18, and they're... they like brightly coloured things.

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And then there's 18 to 34,

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and they're the key demographic, because they're the people

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who feel emotion and fall in love and take risks.

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And then there's just 35 to death.

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We all like Michael Buble and driving gloves.

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OK. Well, this is... It's an interesting one, this.

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I can't go with fancy dress, because I love dressing up so much.

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It's a joyous thing, and I love to see it at the Test Match and all that.

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And David has got a terrible sadness about him in this,

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-but I'm going to put flags into Room 101.

-Hurray!

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And that brings us to the end of the show,

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and my most persuasive guest tonight was Lauren, so well done, Lauren.

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You are the winner.

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And as winner, you get one free,

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unchallenged choice that goes straight into Room 101.

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-Ooh, adult animals.

-OK! I know what you mean.

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-Because baby animals are lovely.

-Yeah.

-Adult animals, I can give them up...

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Yeah, exactly.

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I like animals, but you need a cut-off point.

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OK, adult animals will go into Room 101.

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Well, thanks very much to Lauren, to David and to Larry, and thank YOU.

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And goodnight.

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