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-This is clearly the weakest of the four series that you've done.

-Yeah.

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Is that deliberate?

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This programme contains adult humour and very strong language.

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Like most reasonable people, I hate all Muslims,

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except the ones I've met, who seem fine.

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Now, we all know... Don't we? ..that Islamic State

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does not represent Islam, although inconveniently,

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it does appear to have been named after it.

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So, if the military campaign fails, perhaps we can have them dealt with

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by the Advertising Standards Authority...

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..in the strongest terms.

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Religious people generally are sort of tarnished by association

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with extremism, so it is nice when you see a religious person

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doing something normal, like when that Muslim woman

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won the Bake Off competition on the BBC.

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Of course, the Daily Mail went mad.

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They said it was political correctness gone mad,

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they said in the Daily Mail.

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And they said perhaps one of the other contestants would have won

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if they'd baked a chocolate mosque.

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That's what they said in the Daily Mail.

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Genuinely. But...

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..you can't just win Bake Off by baking a politically-correct cake.

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I know this because I sent Mary Berry

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a fudge abortion clinic...

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LAUGHTER

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..with a protective ring of sponge-finger feminists...

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..and all I got was a warning from the police.

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A Muslim baking a cake?

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It's political correctness gone mad.

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What next? Windsurfing Sikhs?

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Transsexuals with allotments?

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A Jew on a motorbike?

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I thought maybe they'd got a point, all these newspaper columnists

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scrawling away in crayon. Maybe it is time...

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Maybe it's time for people like me on the Loony Left,

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terrorist sympathisers,

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maybe it's time for us to try and be more Islamophobic,

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try some of the Islamophobia, get the Daily Mail off my back,

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create the illusion of balance, work the Islamophobic market.

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That's a growing market, isn't it? The Islamophobic market.

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Everyone's Islamophobic now, aren't they?

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Old Donald Trump in that America, he's Islamophobic, isn't he?

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And his name sounds like the sort of name Walt Disney would've made up

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if he'd been asked to invent a fart that could speak.

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LAUGHTER

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Old Jim Davidson the comedian, he's Islamophobic, isn't he?

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Probably. I don't know, I expect so. He looks like he would be.

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LAUGHTER

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You know, shouldn't generalise about people but...

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He had a comeback show on the road, Jim Davidson.

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It was called I Didn't Even Rape Anyone.

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You're not supposed to, are you?

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You know, you don't make a big song and dance about not doing it.

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He's Islamophobic, I expect.

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Even a lot of Muslims aren't that keen now, are they?

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What about their schools in Birmingham?

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It's outrageous, isn't it?

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No child should have to go to school in Birmingham.

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I can do jokes, you see, I'm just not...

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It's not something that's of interest to me.

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So, I thought I'd do some of that, the Islamophobia.

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But it's all very well, isn't it? Being ironically Islamophobic

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in a working men's club full of Guardian readers.

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The vegetarian restaurants of Hackney are quiet tonight.

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The halloumi sleeps safely... LAUGHTER

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..ungrilled in its little vacuumy nest.

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It's all right, isn't it, being Islamophobic to you,

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but how to get the Islamophobia out into the wider world,

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where all the idiots are,

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to really disrupt the fabric of a functioning society?

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Well, I thought, "What kind of stand-up do people like?"

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It isn't this, is it? This is very niche, what I do.

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Out there in TV land, there's huge pockets of resistance.

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But...

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So, what kind of stand-up do people like? And it's observational comedy,

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that's the most popular form of stand-up.

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If you don't know what that is, observational comedy,

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it's ITV1, BBC1, sort of - "Oh, have you seen this?" "Yes" -

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sort of stuff. LAUGHTER

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Or...

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"Do you do this? I do." "Yes."

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Or, "Do you remember this?"

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AGGRESSIVELY: "Yes! Yes! For fuck sake! Yes!"

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See them out there?

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They're going, "Oh, now it's picking up."

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You remember things, don't you? Do you remember things?

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And you did something, didn't you, once?

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You just stay at home now, though, don't you? Watching telly.

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So, I thought I'd do that...

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..observational comedy, cos people like that...

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AGGRESSIVELY: Don't you?

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..but of a specifically anti-Islamic flavour.

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Try and do some Islamophobic observational comedy.

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So, here we are for the first time,

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some anti-Islamic observational comedy.

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HE SIGHS

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Oh, have you...? Oh.

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Have you seen these Muslims they have now?

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Nah, it's not enough, is it? LAUGHTER

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I tell you what, it's harder than it looks, the observational comedy.

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It's not enough, just observing something,

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you've got to have some kind of angle as well.

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I thought, "How am I going to get

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"28 minutes anti-Islamic observational comedy together?"

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Daily Mail off back, illusion of balance, Islamophobic market.

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And then as luck would have it, one Saturday morning,

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I was on the 149 bus in East London, round here where I live.

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I was travelling up from Liverpool Street station

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to Stamford Hill. And on the bus, I saw,

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on the only empty seat on the bus,

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an abandoned copy of the Jehovah's Witnesses magazine

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Watchtower, right?

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Now, I love the Jehovah's Witnesses, not least of all

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because they have predicted the end of the world, wrongly,

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five times now... LAUGHTER

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..and they don't seem to feel this compromises them in any way.

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"That's right, Stew, have a go at the Jehovah's Witnesses, mate,

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"for not being able to predict the future. Well done."

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This is you, this is what you think, isn't it?

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Back at home with your inner Sun editorial ticking away.

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"Have a go at them!

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"How come none of you politically correct, 1980s,

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"gay, Marxist comedians

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"never have a go at the fucking Muslims, do you?

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"When you going to stick it to the Islams? Come on!

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"Get the Muslims, you fucking gay cunt!"

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Who are you?

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See, the Islamophobia out there,

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it's like a furnace of hate.

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"Get them! Get the fucking... Get them now!

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"One in five Muslims thinks that Morecambe and Wise

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"were better when they went to ITV." LAUGHTER

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This is you, this is what you think.

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"One in five Muslims thinks Paul McGann

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"was an acceptable Doctor Who."

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That's what you think. It's what they think.

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"One in five Muslims has some sympathy

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"with David Bowie's late-'90s drum and bass period."

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LAUGHTER It's what you...

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"Get the fucking... Get them now!"

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All right, calm down.

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I can't just come out here and start laying into Islam out of nowhere,

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can I?

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No. I've got to stick it to all the stupid, weak religions

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first of all and then use their shattered bones

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as a kind of makeshift rope ladder to climb up and urinate

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through the letterbox of heaven.

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"Get them now! Get them, you...!"

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All right.

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I assure you...

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..within three minutes' time, on this television programme,

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on this stage, a Muslim will have been lampooned.

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"Get them!"

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So...

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If it was up to me, this wouldn't be on television.

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Anyone can watch it, you know that?

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So, I was on the 149 bus,

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there's a Jehovah's Witness magazine, Watchtower, on the seat.

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And then around Dalston Junction, just over that way,

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a Muslim woman gets on the bus, walks up the aisle,

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sees the Jehovah's Witness magazine on the seat and sits on it, right?

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And I was hoping she would, to be honest, cos I thought,

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"Oh, good, I've observed that."

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER CONTINUES

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I don't know if she knew what it was. I don't know if she knew it was

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a holy Jehovah's Witness magazine or not.

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I'm prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt even though,

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if a Jehovah's Witness had sat on a copy of the Koran,

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I'm sure we'd never hear the end of it.

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LAUGHTER

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Except... So, I thought, it doesn't matter, does it, really?

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Except that then while sitting on the Jehovah's Witness magazine,

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the Muslim woman got a copy of the Koran out of her bag,

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which she started to read, as if to say,

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"I read the Koran with my eyes,

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"but I read your infidel Jehovah's Witness magazine..."

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You see, that's how... Did you come in fast there?

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That's how that joke works, see? You crash it halfway through.

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You crash the joke.

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Did you laugh? Did you anticipate it at home?

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No, cos you're not listening properly, are you?

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There's two jokes then.

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There's the joke itself and there's a second joke, isn't there?

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Where the audience go, "Oh, how amusing.

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"Any blasphemous content was merely only subconsciously articulated

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"by us."

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Two laughs here in the room.

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You at home are just going, "Oh, that sentence hasn't finished."

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"I paid my licence fee to hear entire sentences.

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"I agree with John Whittingdale, the BBC's rubbish.

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"There aren't even full sentences on it."

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So, I...

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Rupert Murdoch would have full sentences, wouldn't he?

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So...

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Isn't this an interesting thing? I assumed she was reading a Koran.

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I don't actually know, do I? It could have been anything.

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And here's an interesting thing, I like to think of myself as

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a politically-correct liberal, right?

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But I've realised, writing this bit, that I carry around

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all sorts of unconscious prejudices about all sorts of people.

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And one of them is that if I see a Muslim person reading anything

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in public, I always assume it's the Koran.

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And I think, "Oh, reading the Koran again, are you?

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"You religious maniac.

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"Why don't you try and assimilate into our society

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"by entering a cake-making competition?"

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LAUGHTER

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"But you better not win."

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But...

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But I don't know that she was reading the Koran, do I?

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She could have been reading anything, that woman, couldn't she?

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She could have been reading an Arabic edition of

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Fifty Shades Of Grey for all I know.

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Except from what I understand, in Islam,

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there aren't really any shades of grey.

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LAUGHTER

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Yeah, all sorts of responses in the room, aren't there?

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Horrible cackling of Mock The Week viewers over there.

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"Ha-ha! Get them!" And then...

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..over here, the low, confused mumbling of the key audience,

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the liberal intelligentsia there, going,

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"Ooh...not sure about that joke.

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"It's a very complex issue."

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"I can see what he's trying to do, but it's very complex.

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"Can it be boiled down to a simple feedline/punchline? I don't know."

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And that is the key audience for me.

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They will be with me long after you people who got in free

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have drifted away like the chaff you are.

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That's my dream - Wembley Stadium, 16,000 seats.

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Just them, the liberal intelligentsia,

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no laughs all night...

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LAUGHTER

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..just people going, "Well, it's very complex because

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"there's many different schools of thought within Islam,

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"so it's not really, you can't really make a generali..."

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But you... But...

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You can all laugh at that joke, right?

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I've put all the scaffolding in place that everyone needs

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to be allowed to laugh at it.

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I came over here, didn't I? And I said,

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"I am a politically correct liberal." I did that.

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Then I came here and I said,

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"But I carry around these unconscious prejudices." Did that.

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Then I came over here, didn't I?

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And I made an arguably reactionary joke about Islam

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but from a position of relative security,

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having built the apology back into the setup of the joke

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here and here, right? LAUGHTER

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And that's what a lot of these young comics, they encourage now.

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I understand you can do the offensive joke,

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but you have to do the apology first.

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You do the apology first,

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not two weeks later on Newsnight in your best polo-neck jumper.

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LAUGHTER

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Dapper Laughs, victim of a middle-class conspiracy or not,

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what kind of person gets dropped by ITV2?

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You know?

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It's like being barred from a pub that's already on fire.

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And you can laugh at that joke if you're a Muslim.

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I hope you are and I hope you did. Cos if you're a Muslim,

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you can't go, "I am a Muslim and I will not laugh at a joke

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"that suggests there's no room for nuance within Islam,"

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cos that's what the joke's about. And then it's on you, so ha!

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So everyone has to laugh. You have to laugh at everything now.

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Are you aware of that? You have to laugh at everything -

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whether you find it funny, whether you understand it,

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whether you only grasp at its historical or cultural context.

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You have to laugh at everything, otherwise you've given in to terror.

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You have to laugh at everything now - dog shit, Adam Sandler,

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Comedy Central... You've got to laugh at everything.

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Cos if you don't, the terrorists have won.

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You've got to laugh at everything.

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You've got to laugh at this. You've got to laugh at this all the time.

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So, I was on the 149 bus...

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"Get them now! Get them!"

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This leads into it, calm down.

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So, I was on the 149 bus,

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there's a...

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They're awful, aren't they? The people at home.

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I...

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So, I was on the 149 bus,

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there's a Muslim woman sitting on a Jehovah's Witness magazine,

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reading the Koran. I thought, "Brilliant, this is all I need

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"to make a 28-minute Islamophobic observational comedy routine."

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There was one other thing I wanted to happen,

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I was hoping some other religious group would get on the bus,

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sort of interact with the woman, maybe something funny would happen

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with the Jehovah's Witness magazine

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and I could sort of write something at the end going,

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"Blah, blah, blah. While I remain suspicious of religious privilege,

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"I hope we can all get on in a diverse society."

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But it didn't really happen. I sat on the bus for about five hours,

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it didn't really happen. LAUGHTER

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It nearly happened.

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Around Ridley Road Market, loads of Quakers got on the bus,

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about 20 Quakers. LAUGHTER

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OK, you laugh cos you've come...

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If you live round here, right, we see Quakers all the time.

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There's a Quaker chapel on the green here and there's a Quaker cemetery

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up Bouverie Road, so it's not unusual to see Quakers round N16.

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Anyway, all these Quakers got on the bus with porridge all down them...

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LAUGHTER

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You know, smearing all the chocolate,

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all the chocolate fingerprints all down the fucking...

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All porridge in the aisle where people have to...

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Do you like Quakers? Do you like them?

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You know, I...

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Fine, I've had enough of them. I have.

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Do you know what, I surprise myself cos I've got friends

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of all different religions and politics and I normally...

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You know, we find common ground, but the Quakers, I just...

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I hate them, I absolutely hate Quakers.

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Well, you laugh, but you don't have to live where they are, do you?

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You don't have to live amongst them, right?

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Well, it's all very well, but every day, where I live,

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there is some problem caused by the Quaker community.

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Like last Sunday morning, about six o'clock in the morning,

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one of the kids got me up and they went,

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"Ooh, can we have porridge for breakfast?"

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So I went all the way down to the corner shop in Dalston.

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I said to the bloke, "Have you not got any porridge?"

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He goes, "No, Quakers have been in."

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LAUGHTER

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He goes, "Look at this." And there's all dry porridge flakes

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all on the floor

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with little buckled-shoe footprints in them.

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Two adult Quakers and a kid one.

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He says, "They come in, got all the porridge boxes,

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"ripped off the bloke's face..."

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Why? Cos he looks like them? It's idiotic.

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And then just thrown porridge all up in the air,

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all over their hats and everything.

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And then just... It's just idiot...

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And you know what, he said,

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"No-one will do anything because of political correctness."

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You know, it's every day.

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Like last Friday night, about half ten,

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I was watching telly, I said, "I wish I had some chocolate now."

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So, I went down the off-licence on Green Lanes, 24 off-licence,

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I said, "Have you not got any chocolate?"

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He goes, "No, Quakers have been in."

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He goes, "Look at this," and he plays back the CCTV footage.

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It's unbelievable, about 70 Quakers have come in

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on skateboards and mobility scooters,

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pogo sticks, space hoppers and those things what you stand on, on them.

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Vermin, aren't they?

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And then they've run all round,

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they've got all the chocolate in the shop. Not even really eaten it,

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just unwrapped it and then licked it and rubbed it,

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put it down themselves, then just thrown it on the floor.

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Idiotic, isn't it? Unbelievable.

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Every day there's some problem.

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Like, last Tuesday night about half six,

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like any normal person, I suddenly thought,

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"I wish I had a pair of over-the-knee white tights,

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"some shoes with really shiny buckles,

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"a massive hat like that, and a ruff,

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"and a waistcoat and some tight little breeches."

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So I went all the way down to the Quaker clothes shop

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and I said to the bloke, "Have you not got any Quaker clothes?"

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He goes, "No, Quakers have been in."

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I thought, "Fair enough, it's their shop, isn't it?"

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IN CHILD-LIKE VOICE: "They can go in their own shops,

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"I think."

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So... LAUGHTER

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Anyway, all these Quakers got on the bus, and I thought...

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Brilliant, one of the Quakers is going to want to sit down.

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He's going to come up the aisle and the Muslim woman

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is going to move over and the Quaker will see that the Muslim

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was sitting on a Jehovah's Witness magazine and he'll go,

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"Eee-gadzooks," or whatever shit they say

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in their stupid cockroach language.

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But the problem was...

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..all the Quakers just stayed hanging around the middle of the bus

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where all the prams and that are.

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And that's the problem with these religious groups, I think,

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they won't integrate, will they? You know?

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Is it too much to expect the Quakers to do, say and think

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everything I think they should? Apparently so.

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That's the key line for this,

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that's the key line for this routine,

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so don't write in cos that justifies it.

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I haven't got the 28-minute anti-Islamic

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observational comedy routine,

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I've got three anti-Islamic one-liners that I've written.

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And when I'm done with them, I'm going to sell them on

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to Roy Chubby Brown. And...

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it does work better if I do them in his voice.

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So, here we are, three anti-Islamic one-liners.

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IMITATES ROY CHUBBY BROWN: Hey, do you know...

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LAUGHTER

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..one in two kids

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born in Britain today is called Mohammed...

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..and that...and that, that's just the girls.

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LAUGHTER

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I think so anyway, I haven't...

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..I haven't got the exact figures.

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Are they even available? I don't know.

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They're not available, are they?

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Course, one of the problems with this is the name Mohammed,

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you can spell that four or five different ways,

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so it's very difficult to harvest accurate data.

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LAUGHTER

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I've got another one for you now. Hey, do you know,

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one in two radical Islamists in Britain today is a...

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I've done no research. LAUGHTER

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I've done no fucking research.

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I don't have to, I'll tell you why.

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Cos if you film your own DVDs

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and direct market them to bins in garage forecourts...

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..you don't have to run owt by legal, see?

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No, cos the legal restrictions for direct market content

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is far more lax than what there is for broadcast media, see.

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So, I'm not obliged to make sure that there's any kind

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of a factual relationship between the set-up of a joke

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and the conclusion drawn from the often folkloric punchline.

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So, I'm able to give the impression of being

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a politically incorrect outlaw,

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whereas the truth is I merely distribute my product

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to a far-less-tightly-regulated marketplace.

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Hey, look at that, look at that.

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I tell you what,

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they love that broadcasting law stuff...

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..down here in metrosexual London.

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They fucking love the broadcasting law.

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You try and do that at Burnley Mechanicals,

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they'll fucking crucify you.

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And another aspect of broadcasting law...

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"Fucking shut up, Chubby, there's no interest in any of that."

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So, I've got another one. They will, they'll...

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I see you got the bloke that did it last time.

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So, I've got another one for you now.

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Hey, do you know, I don't really speak like this, do I?

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It's a sort of generic voice.

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I'd be offended if it was supposed to be an impression of me.

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So, I've got another one for you.

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Where's this actually even from? I don't know.

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The Clangers or something.

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I've got another one for you now.

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Hey, do you know, LAUGHTER

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one in two people in Britain today

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claiming to be a spokesperson

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for the entire British Muslim community

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is in fact the unelected leader of a non-democratic,

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presidential think group and political lobbying organisation...

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..giving political influence and media profile

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far in excess of its membership numbers or demographic reach

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as a result of a hastily-implemented,

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but ultimately, to be honest, benign...

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LAUGHTER

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..early 1990s local government community

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bridge-building initiative.

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HE RESUMES NORMAL VOICE Yeah, some laughs,

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a bit of applause.

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All you lot at home going, "What the fuck was that supposed to be?"

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I'll tell you what that was,

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that's the best joke about Islam in Britain anyone's ever done.

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It's even-handed, it's informed...

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It's not funny, no. It's not funny, admittedly.

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But it's what you say you want, isn't it? You go...

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ANGRILY: "Do stuff about Islam. Come on!"

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I just did. "Not like that, Stew."

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"Not where they have to know anything about it."

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TENSE MUSIC

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HE MOUTHS SILENTLY

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CYMBALS CHIME

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TENSE MUSIC BUILDS TO CRESCENDO

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RHYTHMIC RUSTLING

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HAUNTING DISTANT CRY

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TENSE MUSIC FADES

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SINISTER MUSIC

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It feels like a good idea that we should really have a look

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and see what's gone so badly wrong.

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