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This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
Stand by, two. Mix through. Cue on two. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
The BBC has announced the appointment | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
of ex-Head of Olympic Deliverance Ian Fletcher | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
as its new Head of Values. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
Time now for the shipping forecast. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Superimpose. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
I'm a bit busy this morning, so I'll have to get back to you, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
but, no, from the hip, I mean, surely, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
unless I've misunderstood this, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Songs Of Praise isn't actually about ratings, is it? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
I mean, that's not its... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
'8.30 on another morning at New Broadcasting House | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
'in central London. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
'Ian Fletcher has now been in his job | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
'as the BBC's Head of Values for nearly a month.' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
If you take that out, what have we actually got left? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
In the end... Thanks, Will. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
In the end, if we're not careful, it'll be Top Gear, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
Strictly Come Dancing and, you know, Bake Offs of various kinds, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
and, frankly, I'm not sure that's quite what Lord Reith had in mind. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Reith. Lord Reith. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
As opposed to people watching each other | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
stuffing their faces with caramelised whatever | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
or crying because they haven't got the right kind of self-raising flour | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
in their apple turnovers or whatever. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
OK, I don't care whether you do or not, that's just an example, OK? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Right. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
Perhaps I should say what's driving this, I think, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
-apart from that it's crucial in its own right... -Brilliant. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
The real urgency behind it is this Reith thing next month. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
'By 9am, Ian is already chairing | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
'the fortnightly Way Ahead Task Force Group. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
'BBC Director-General Tony Hall is due to deliver the keynote speech | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
'at a major BBC thing next month to celebrate the death 43 years ago | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
'of the first ever Director-General, Lord Reith.' | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Cameron's been invited, Miliband, I think, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Maria Miller, Culture Secretary, obviously, so basically it's... | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
-Lis Murdoch from Shine. -Right, yes, so... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Peter Fincham from ITV. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Yes, thank you. So, basically anyone who's anyone. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
-Not to mention the Prince of Wales. -Yes. Thank you, Simon. -Yay. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
-Not sure who he's from. -He's from Wales. -What? -Duh. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
'With the anniversary in mind | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
'and the campaign for Charter Renewal in 2016 | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
'coming closer by the fortnight, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
'Ian is joined by Director of Strategic Governance Simon Harwood, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
'Head of Output Anna Rampton, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
'Senior BBC Communications Officer Tracey Pritchard, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
'Brand BBC Consultant Siobhan Sharpe from PR Company Perfect Curve, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
'and two other people, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
'to think some Big Thoughts about the BBC's purpose.' | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
This will be the opening shot in the campaign | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
to secure the future and the values | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
of the institution we're all sitting in now. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
-Cool. -Yes, very good, very strong. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
With that in mind, I thought it might be interesting - | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
maybe illuminating, who knows - | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-just to start by asking everyone in this room to write down... -Yes. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
-..to write down one word... -Brilliant. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:04 | |
-This is so cool, we love this. -OK, no. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-One word? -I'm sorry. -Yes, one word. -Turquoise. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
-No, I haven't started yet. -OK. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
-Write down one word that... -Yep. -The first thing that... -No, sure. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
The first thing that comes into your mind when you hear the word "BBC". | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
-OK, so it's not a word. -Got it. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Just write that word down, then fold it up so no-one can see it, and... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-OK Go. -Right. OK. You've got 30 seconds. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
OK, OK, OK. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Can I just say, I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
-but I'm really not good at this. -It's not a test. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
-I'm OK at most things. -Just whatever comes into your head. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-Er, no, that's way better. This is so cool. -Finished, sir. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
-Can you have smells? -Smells? -No, sure. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Like the smell of the building when you come in in the morning. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-Is it the smell of success, Tracey? -No, it's not that, Simon. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
It's more like some sort of detergent or something. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
You can have whatever you want. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
You can have whatever you want. It's cool. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Right. OK. Don't say I didn't warn you. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
-OK, so if you just want to pass them along. -No peeking. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
-Anna, you haven't... You really don't... -No. -No, OK. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
-The fact is, I really don't do this. -Right, OK. OK, good. So... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
Right, OK, good. So, that's all good. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
OK. OK, sure, but the screening itself starts at seven. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
OK, great. Thanks, Margo. I'll... | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
No, yeah, I'll tell him, but I'm sure that'll be fine. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
OK, see you later. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
OK, thanks, great. Bye. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-Hi, Will. -Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, hi. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
-You OK? -Yeah, no, that's cool, I don't mind. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
'Meanwhile, intern Will Humphries | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
'is busy with an important mission of his own.' | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
-This is, like, Ian Fletcher's bike. -OK, yes. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I have to find somewhere to put it, cos he's like a nomad. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
-A what? -Nomad. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
-Right. -Yeah, I know, mental, but it's, like, a challenge. -Right. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-I was thinking, maybe it could be here, near your desk. -OK. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
-Then I would know where it was. -You can leave it here, if you like. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-OK, wow, cool. -I can keep an eye on it for him. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I've got to keep an eye on it for him. That's the challenge. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
-Well, whatever. -Yeah. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
-Put it next to Simon's. We can both keep an eye on it. -OK, cool. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
-Actually, Will, are you busy this morning? -What, now? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
-Well, this morning, yes. -No. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
I'm a bit busy today. Would you be able to...? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
OK, cool, yeah, no worries. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
We're sending out the invitations to the Reith thing today. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Yeah. The what? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
Tony Hall's going to be giving this... Actually, it's a bit... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-OK. -It doesn't... -That's cool. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Would you be able to fold the letters | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-and put them in the envelopes? -Cool. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
-Do you want to sit down here? -OK, cool, yeah, no worries. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
So, they're all printed out and signed by Tony Hall, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and all of the envelopes have got the addresses on. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-Wow! How many of them are there? -400. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
-Whoa! Cool. -They're all in the right order in the piles, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
-so it should be really straightforward. -Yeah. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
-But it is quite important... -That's OK. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
..to make sure that the right letter goes in the right envelope. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-Yeah, no, obviously. Cool. -Are you going to be OK with that? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Yeah, cool. Yeah, no worries. With what? | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
With everything that I just explained to you. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-Yeah, no worries. Yeah, cool. -Right. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
-Yeah, so where are you going to sit? -No... -I could sit on the bike. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-I've got this Syncopatico Update course this morning. -Oh. OK. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-But I'll be back at lunchtime. -OK, cool. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-Hey. Ready? -Yes, just coming. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
-Really, Will, that'll so brilliant. You're a star. -Yeah, OK, cool. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
I suppose what I'm not clear about | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
is how moving it to radio would refresh it | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
or what sort of signals that'd send out. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
'Back in Frankie Howerd, Ian has moved the Way Ahead meeting | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
'away from Big Thoughts and onto Detail.' | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
-It's people singing in churches. -Well, yes. -Cool idea. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
There's no jeopardy. There's no appointment to view. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-It's not even a competition. -Oh, bummer. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
'There's been a proposal | 0:07:05 | 0:07:06 | |
'to move the BBC's much-loved religious big-hitter Songs Of Praise | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
'from its current slot on Sunday evening.' | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Am I right in thinking that what's in your mind, Anna, here instead, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
is Britain's Tastiest Village? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
-Village is still floating at the moment. -Right. Is it? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
But we have a duty to give people what they want. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Might it be our duty sometimes to lead people towards things | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
-they didn't realise they wanted? -Yes, very good. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
-Well, no. -Duh! -Right. -Frankly, that's ludicrous. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-Guys, you don't sell crab cakes in a sausage factory. -Brilliant. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-Exactly. -Have we got that? -Uh-huh. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Tony'll be practically beside himself. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
The big positive to take out of this | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
is that this is exactly the sort of debate we should be having at this stage. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
-Brilliant. -So, that's all good. -Cool. -I guess the other thing | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
to think about at some point will be the logo issue. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
-Sure, yeah. -The logo issue? -Yeah. -Cool. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Ah, OK. You guys haven't spoken yet. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
No, no, but that's cool. That's so going to happen. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Well, what about it happening now? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Well, this is just something that Siobhan mentioned in passing, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
and I happened to mention it to Tony, that's all. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-Right, I see. So... -OK, so here's the thing with this, guys. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
You want to up-size your footprint, you gotta get different shoes. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-What? -'As part of the debate about what the BBC is for, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
'Siobhan has come up with the idea of refreshing the BBC's logo | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
'as a way of achieving various different things.' | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
You home screen, your brand takeaway, right there in the logo, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
you're drinking from the fire hose from the get-go. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-It's a no brainer. -Right. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:22 | |
I'm sorry, I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
but so far, I don't think I've understood a single thing | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
-you've actually said this morning. -Cool. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
If it helps, what Siobhan said to me, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and what caught Tony's attention, was that the BBC | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
should maybe look and feel more like an app going forward. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-Sure, totally. -Right. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-An app. -OK, that works. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
But are we in danger of putting the cart before the horse here? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Ah, yes, very good. -OK, we SO don't need horses here. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
I don't think you've quite... | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
-OK, that's so wrong, I don't even know where to start. -Brilliant. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
-Dan, hi. -Oh, hi, yeah. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
-What are you doing out here? -Um, yeah... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
-Why weren't you waiting inside? -Yeah, no, I went in. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
-I prefer it out here, really. -Right. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
'Meanwhile, down at reception, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
'producer Lucy Freeman has gone down to meet new writer Dan Shepherd.' | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
-When did you come down? -I came down last night. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-You've got friends you stay with. -I stay with my ex-girlfriend. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-Sounds like a very level-headed arrangement. -It was all right. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
I didn't know she was my ex-girlfriend when I set off. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-Oh. Right. -But no, still, yeah, it was OK. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-I read it again this morning. -Oh, right. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
It's really good. It's really good. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
We should be going in there with real confidence. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
-If you want to do that. -Well, no. -I think I'll just go in as me. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
'Now 36, Dan has come in for a potentially important meeting | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
'about a potential project that Lucy's been helping him develop | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
'for the last few years of his potential life.' | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-It's easy for me to say this. You've got to believe in yourself. -Yeah. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-I'm not doing this as a favour, OK? You know, life's too short. -Yeah. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
I probably shouldn't say this, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
but I end up working on so many shows I don't really care about. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Bloody hell, these chairs are a height. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-Shall we just stand up? -I think I'd feel safer, yeah. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Yes, of course, yes, good idea. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
-You OK? -Yeah. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Eventually, a continuity announcer is going to end up saying, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
-"And now on BBC Two, it's time for Home Truth..." -Yeah. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
"..a brand-new comedy drama starring whoever and whoever." | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
-Yeah, them. -I genuinely believe that. So must you. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
Yeah. Do they have loos in here? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
Of course. Through the doors at the end and on the left. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-Right. Great. Thanks. -Yes. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
No, we have bloody apologised. No, I have. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
No, we did. Yes, it is. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
'Meanwhile, Current Controller of News and Current Affairs Neil Reid | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
'is busy being a man under pressure.' | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
We've got an apology on the website, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
we did an apology on the Today programme, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
I've apologised to Tony personally. He's... No, I haven't finished yet. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
He's apologised to Patten, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
I think he's looking for someone to apologise to as we speak. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
So, you know, we really are bloody sorry. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
I don't know what else we can do. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Please do. And while you're at it, give her one from me. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Thanks. Bye, bye. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Right. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
-Ah. The Joy of News. -Fuck, that's hot. What do you want, Simon? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-Have you got a minute? -No, I haven't. No, not really. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
I mean, for what it's worth, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
-I know that Tony's absolutely behind you on this. -Yeah, bollocks. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
'Following an item broadcast on the BBC News Channel | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
'there's been a serious complaint about the quality of journalism | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
'in the Corporation's coverage of the ongoing crisis in Syria.' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
This is what? A junior picture researcher, was it? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
It was 4am. It's not his fault. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-PHONE BUZZES -He's a good kid. -No, of course. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
He's been working all night. But the fact is... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Nick, I'll phone you back. Yep. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
The fact is that for about half an hour this morning, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
just till we start getting the calls, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
we were running the story with a picture of Trudie Styler | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-instead of President Assad's wife Asma. -Yep. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
-You know, that's not good. -No. And what was the story? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-She's been shopping for something somewhere. -Right. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
We fixed it as soon as we could, but by then it's too late, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and then we get "The Call" and all bloody hell breaks loose. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-No, I mean, that is bad luck. -Yeah. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
And if there's anyone you don't want to cross, it's Trudie Styler. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
No, it's Asma bloody Assad who's complained. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
Oh, I see, of course, yes. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:58 | |
-That's why it's such a giant fuck up. -No, brilliant, Neil, brilliant. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Tracey, hi. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Hang on, when you say I might like to know about it, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
so this is a bad thing... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
'Meanwhile, elsewhere in the building, it's becoming clear to Ian | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
'that as Head of Values, you can never be sure what's coming next | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
'or exactly where it's coming from.' | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Well, I mean, where are you? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Right, OK, yes, I know. You mean the... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Is it Beirut? I thought it was Cairo. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
-They're saying they might run it tomorrow. -Right. -I know. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
I don't want to be negative or anything, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
but I've got a very bad feeling about this. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
Senior BBC Communications Officer Tracey Pritchard | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
has had advance warning from the media editor of The Daily Telegraph | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
of a feature they're about to run | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
on the issue of BBC executive salaries, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
as part of which they're intending to use Ian's salary | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
as its so-called so-called Head of Values as an example. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
The first thing to say, Ian, I've no idea personally | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
-whether that figure is actually accurate or not. -Right. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Presumably that's something you'll be able to confirm or otherwise for yourself now. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-Yes. I mean, yes. -Because they're bandying this figure about, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
but that's obviously at the heart of the whole story. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Well, yes, absolutely, yes. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
I don't want to pry into your personal affairs, Ian, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
-because I don't do that, that's not the sort of person I am. -No. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-But is that what you earn? -Broadly speaking... It's certainly... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-They've obviously... -That IS what you earn. -I'd need, obviously, to... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-Right. OK. -I'd need to go back and check the...just look at the... | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
but when I saw it, I was assuming it was wildly inaccurate. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-Right. Well... -As it is, I've gotta say we are not in a good place here. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Well, obviously we need to start thinking about a strategy now. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I don't want to be dramatic or anything, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
but I think what we could be looking at is a miracle. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
-Dan, hi. -Yeah, hi, yeah. -Really good to meet you. -Yes, you too. Yeah. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
-And Matt. -Dan. -Yeah, hi. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-Thanks for this. We know how busy you guys are. -Yes. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
-No sure. You came down from Leeds? -Yeah. -Great. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-Well, from Wetherby. -Right. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
-I got a bus to Leeds. -Great. Have a seat. -Yeah. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
'Meanwhile, Lucy and writer Dan Shepherd | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
'have got their potentially vital meeting | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
'with Head of Output Anna Rampton | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
'and BBC Head of Generic Comedy Drama Matt Taverner.' | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
-You want to tell us a bit about Home Truth? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
'They know that if they're ever going to have a chance | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
'to get Dan's idea finally off the ground, this is either it or not.' | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Cos I've seen it develop to this point, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
which has been a terrific process, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:25 | |
but, Dan, maybe you can just say a bit about the basic premise. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-Yeah, OK. -OK, good. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
So, basically, it's set in Scarborough, believe it or not. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
-Great. -I mean, that's not very... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
It's basically just about ordinary people | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
trying to live their lives as well as they can. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
-Right. -Great. -Yeah. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Obviously it's a relationship story at the centre of it. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-Yeah, kind of, yeah. -So, this script is what? It's... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Yes, so when Dan first came to me with the idea originally, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I suggested he do a synopsis, maybe a couple of sample scenes. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
But what Dan came back with eventually was, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
he came back with the whole thing, all the characters, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
their whole world, you know, just there. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-Great. -And by there, you mean Scarborough. -Yeah. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
I suppose... Well, Dan, we haven't talked about this, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
-but I suppose it doesn't actually have to be Scarborough. -Yeah, no. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Could just as well be Bridlington, or Whitby if you want to go north. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-It's a character-led piece. -Great. -The location's actually secondary. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-It's called Home Truth. -Yeah. -Yes. -Why is it called that? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
I guess it's called that because she's a small-town solicitor. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
-A solicitor? -Yeah, but not like a hotshot or anything. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
She's dealing with ordinary people's stuff. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-But in the end, what she's dealing with is truth. -Right. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
I have to say, I think it's a brilliant title. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-But, like, in her life, in her relationship... -Yes. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
..I guess what she starts to realise... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-Yeah, no, sure. I mean, Matt... -Yep. -What's your...? What do you think? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
-Yeah, no, I mean, great, Dan. I mean, really interesting. -Yeah. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I mean, I have to say, for me, it does feel a bit long. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-Long? -For me, a bit, yeah. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
-Right. OK. -I mean, do you want to put a bit of detail on that, Matt? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
-No, sure. -Just to help Dan get a sense of what you mean. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Yeah, no, sure. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
-Hi, Will. -Oh, cool, yeah, hi. -Wow, amazing. -Yeah, no worries. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
I was pretty slow to begin with, but then you get a rhythm. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
That's really... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-No, but hang on. No, the envelopes... -Yeah. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
You've got them... They're upside down. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Yeah, no, cool, cos it's quicker like that. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-Right. -Yeah, it's, like, flap up, in, seal, done. It's a system. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Yeah. No, but they were in the right order, the addresses. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Yeah, no, they're in the same order. It's just they're the other way up. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Right, so that's the wrong order. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-Yeah. -Completely. With the bottom one on the top. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
-Yeah, OK, no. -I mean, Jesus Christ. Will... -Yeah. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
I've got the second half of that course this afternoon. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
It's like sometimes I just don't think. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I'm just thinking in terms of hinterland, really. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-Maybe show, don't tell. -Yeah. -I may be wrong. -Yeah. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
'Back in the script meeting, Head of Generic Comedy Drama Matt Taverner | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
'is still explaining what he means to Lucy and Dan.' | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
-I think is it worth maybe thinking about consequences. -Consequences. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
It might just be this particular iteration of the idea. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Yes, you do realise you've got two episodes there, Matt? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. -Yeah, no, sure. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
So, one of the great things about working with Dan is, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
he goes away and comes back with two scripts off his own bat. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
I wanted to know what happened next. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Yes, no, of course, don't get me wrong, that's great. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
No, I mean, I don't know. Just in terms of story, I suppose... | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-Yeah. -Is there a way of maybe starting in the middle here | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
-instead of at the beginning? -Oh, OK. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
-Or is it maybe a question of re-imagining the precinct? -Yeah. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Just to give it, if you like, maybe a bit more narrative heft. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-Yeah, maybe, yeah. -Good, OK. -Well, no, hang on... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-Really good to meet you. -Yeah. -Yes. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
-So, what would be really great, Matt and Anna... -Sure. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
..good for Dan and...well, no, good for both of us, actually, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
good for me too, is to come away from this meeting | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
with a clear sense of where we are with this. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
-I think I've got that. -I'm with you, Lucy. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
-It'd be great if we could get this thing across the line. -Yes. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
Across... Well, that's... Let's... It is across... What line? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I'd say this really does feel like a very strong first draft. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, really strong. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
I mean, what I'd say is it's absolutely worth you | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
keeping us in the loop about where you go with it creatively. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-Right. -Anna? -Yeah, absolutely. Good. Yeah. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
OK. OK. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
Well, that's... I mean, thank you very... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
-Thank you very... Thank you. -Yeah, great. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I had this thing | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
where if you take the first B and flip it the other way, OK? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-OK, I don't get that. -Then it's more... -I don't get it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Straightaway it's just... I mean... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-Do another one. -Yeah. -Flippety-flip-flip. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
'Meanwhile, across town at PR company Perfect Curve, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
'Siobhan Sharpe's creative team | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
'are already feeding back to her creatively | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
'on the issue of the BBC logo.' | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
We're like, what if the BBC was a fruit? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
-OK. -What sort of fruit would it be? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
-Yeah, fruit, yeah. -Cool. -So, what we came up... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-Mango. -Yeah, so first... -Kiwi fruit. Guava. I love this. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Yeah. So, first we were like, an apple? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-Yeah, yeah, an apple, yeah. -Yeah, or maybe like a pear? -Or an apple. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
-Yeah, an apple. -No, we love apples. Say some more. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
-Yeah, maybe a kind of cheese. -Yeah, that's not a fruit. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
But a hard cheese, not a smelly one. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
OK, I don't know how to say this, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
but this is not just another brand refresh, OK? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
This is the British Broadcasting, like, Company. This is major shit. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
-Yeah. -For sure. -Yeah. -We screw the pooch on this one, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
we're sucking nothing but sauerkraut here. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
'Tasked with the task | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
'of re-conceptualising the world-famous BBC brand | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
'to make it feel more like an app, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
'Ideation Architect Barney Lumsden, Trending Analyst Coco Lomax | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
'and Viral Concept Designer Karl Marx | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
'have put their individual heads together | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
'to see if anything happens.' | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
-So, we've had this really big idea. -OK. This is good, guys. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
So, we're like, you know when you look at your iPad or your phone, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
whatever, yeah, and you, like, look at the apps, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
and it's, like, none of them have got, like, any letters or anything. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Yeah, like, or they've got one letter. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
-Yeah, one letter. -Like F for like Facebook. -Yeah. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Yeah, or, like, a phone for, like, a phone. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Yeah, but what they don't have is any, like, writing. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
-No. -No. -OK. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
And then you look at the BBC app and it's got... | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
-it's like it's got writing, like, all over it. -Yeah. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-Cos they've got, like, B, B and C. -Yeah, it's letters city here, guys. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
And then it's got BBC Weather, BBC News, BBC Sport, BBC iPlayer... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Sure. OK, I get this. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
Yeah, it's like they don't know what to do with all the letters, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
they just stuck them on the app. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
Help me, I can't see for writing. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Yeah, it's like... It's not Jane Austen here, guys. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Get real. It's an iPad - get an iCon. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-That's why we had an iDea. -Yeah, and that's when... -An iDea. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
And that's when we realised what the thing about the BBC logo was. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
OK, what? Don't do this, say stuff. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-Lose the letters. -Yep. -Shit. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-Yeah, cos they're just not a very appy thing to have. -Shut up! | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-It's un-appy. -Shut up! -Yeah, that's why... | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Yeah, we're not doing cheese, OK? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
-OK. -It doesn't work. -Yeah. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
I mean, presumably, Tracey, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
the reason they've given us a head start on this | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
is so we can give them some kind of official statement. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Exactly, Simon, yes. "In response, the BBC issued a statement | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
"in which it described the role of Head of Values as..." | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
-you know, duh-duh-duh-duh, something or other. -Brilliant. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Yes, although is it just me, or is "duh-duh-duh-duh, something or other" | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
-not quite going to do it somehow? -Yes, no, very good. -Yes. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
'Meanwhile, Director of Strategic Governance Simon Harwood | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
'has convened a down and dirty Damage Limitation Session | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
'in order to have a chat about the impending Daily Telegraph feature | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
-'on the size of Ian's salary.' -Beyond the e-mail exchange I've read, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
how much more detail have they given you | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
-about the piece they're going to run? -Nothing. -Right. OK. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
No, this guy Andrew, he's features editor, he's Scottish, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-and not in a good way, if you know what I mean. -Right. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
But you'll know how you want to handle this, Ian, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
but it's not difficult to predict where they're going to go with it. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Well... -That's easy. -Yes. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
What are we doing spending hard-earned licence payer's money... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-Very good. -..and a sizeable chunk of it, on some big, fancy job... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
-Well... -..with a title that doesn't actually mean anything, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
when we could be spending it on things that matter? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-OK. -That's where they'll go with this. -Brilliant. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
It's all very predictable, Ian. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
-In a situation like this, Tracey... -Yes. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-..who is it that actually drafts this official statement? -Right, yes. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
It's not really for me to say this, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-but I'm in a situation here... -Yes, you are. -This is potentially... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
I'm going to need the unequivocal and public support of the organisation. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-Oh, yes, no, very good. -You certainly are, Ian, yes. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-No, I think that's very strong. -Right. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
So, who is it who actually drafts the...? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
-Tracey, you'll know more about this than I do. -Yes. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
But, for what it's worth, I think the ideal guy for this | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
-would be the Head of Values, wouldn't it? -So, hang on, what? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
I write my own official statement in support of myself. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Apart from anything else, it saves time | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-and keeps everything nice and neat. -Right. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
You can CC me along the way, if you can be bothered. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Yes, me too, Ian, please, obviously. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
-I mean, Tracey, what is the time frame on this? -Right. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Presumably we're going to have to move pretty bloody quickly. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
No, I gotta say, I don't want to worry you, Ian, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
but for all I know, we may well be already too late. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
-Well, thanks for that. -Brilliant. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
-So, that's all good, then. -Uh-huh. -Uh-huh. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Alan, love, we can't apologise any more than we have. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
That's not humanly possible. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
But then we'd be apologising for apologising. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
We're going to go fucking mad. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
'Down on the newsroom floor, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
'Current Head of News and Current Affairs Neil Reid | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
-'is still very sorry.' -OK, so wait, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
we now issue an official apology | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
for issuing an official apology to Asma Assad, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
apologising for any offence we may have caused. Right. OK. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
And then we issue another official apology for any... | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Hang on, I'm going to write this down. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
'But despite how sorry he is, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
'a Conservative MP has now criticised the BBC | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
'for its craven appeasement of the Syrian regime | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
'and Sting has phoned up Alan Yentob personally | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
'and called him an actual prick.' | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Yeah, OK. Well, that all sounds pretty, um... | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
How about, just to save time, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
how about I just blow my brains out live on the Ten O'Clock? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
That should just about cover it, shouldn't it? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
How you doing, Will? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
Yeah, hey, cool, yeah, no worries. It's pretty good. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
I spoke to Simon and he says these are OK to go out tomorrow morning. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
OK, cool, yeah. Yeah, these are definitely right. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
I feel a bit bad about leaving you here. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
-That's cool. It's my own fault. -It's just... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Yeah, sometimes you just need to try harder. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
I've got to go to this screening with Simon. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Yeah, no, what? Cool, yeah. That's cool, yeah, no worries. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-OK, well... -We good? -Yes, just coming, yep. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Brilliant. Rotten bad luck in the envelope department, Will. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Yeah, I know, yeah, crap. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, I guess. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-No, that's cool. -Good-o. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
-See you in the morning, Will. -Yeah, that's cool. See you, Izzy. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
-Good night, Will. -Yeah, see you in the morning. Yeah, cool. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
No, there are some. They're in the freezer. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
No, in the bottom compartment, where they always are. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Yes, there are. There's a mushroom one... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
'By ten o'clock at night, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
'New Broadcasting House is virtually empty, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
-'except for those people who are still there.' -Bye. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
'If it hasn't exactly been a good day for producer Lucy Freeman, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
'for Ian it's been worse than good, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
'and it's about to get worse than bad.' | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
-Night. -Yes, thanks. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
-Oh, hi. -Yes, hi. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
-Think I might be here for a bit. -Yes, I was going to give you this. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
-Oh, right, is that it? -You said you'd never read a script. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
No, I will. I could do with something funny. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
-Yes. Also... -Yes? -Um... | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
I'm proud to work for the BBC. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
I'm especially proud to be its Head of Values. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
I haven't done anything wrong here. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
-BBC. -BBC. -Rick Stein's wrong for this. -Lovely Rick. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
We're not doing "old and bald". | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
Leave aside the rights and wrongs from all the personal stuff. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-Wait a minute... -Yes, cos I'm not being funny or anything, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
but who knows what they're going to turn up next. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
-Cool flowers. -Yes, do you want them? -Say again? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-It's like it's coming out of the... -Sure, it's comin' atcha. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
OK, it was a mistake. OK? I think I probably knew it at the time. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
-Do you want these? -What? -We don't know what to do with them. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
-Who are they from? -No, Will. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
If ever there was an opportunity for the BBC to stand tall | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
and make a big, bold statement | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
about how much it values the idea of valuing values | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
-then surely this is it. -No, brilliant, brilliant. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
"Sally, I'm so sorry. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
"If there's anybody that doesn't deserve it, it's you. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-"I hope you're OK." -Sally? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 |