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I've been fighting your consumer battles for years,

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but the same old problems just keep flooding in.

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And it's all the usual suspects - poor customer service, faulty goods and hidden small print.

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No wonder some of you are fed up with the way you're being treated.

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What really grinds my gears is when I place an order and the company gets it wrong.

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The consumer and customer has been completely forgotten.

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And it's never their fault.

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I couldn't agree more. Things need to change,

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and we're on a mission to get companies to treat us better.

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I'll be taking on your cases and fighting your fight with the big companies.

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It makes your system sound very flawed to me.

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And I'll be showing you how to shop smart and stay one step ahead.

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She is a really good shopper!

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So remember, Don't Get Done...

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Get Dom!

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On today's show, I come to the aid of a group of people

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all driven round the bend by a van hire company.

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Alarm bells started ringing in regards to their customer service.

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It's not constructive whatsoever.

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The more I phoned back, the more ruder they became.

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How one man saved an entire village from paying over the odds for their heating fuel...

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It's a community service

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on behalf on the village that deserves it, I believe.

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Rani Price gets a foot in the door

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of the inside world of estate agents.

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-You're potentially bidding against yourself.

-Absolutely!

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Every now and again, there comes a time

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when a normal car is not big enough for certain tasks -

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you know, like moving house or going on a trip.

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When that happens, nothing will come in handier

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than a nice big van.

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That's exactly what Akin Ali and his friends needed

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when they were organising a charity trip.

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We were doing the Three Peaks Challenge to raise money for Parkinson's UK.

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They needed a minibus and chose A1 National Van Hire.

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It cost us £500,

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but we had to pay a £500 deposit upfront, as well.

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The team split the cost between them

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and made the booking using one of the team's credit cards.

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Just before we left, we noticed we'd been double-charged on the deposit and minibus hire.

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After successfully completing the challenge and returning the minibus,

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the team tried to rectify the error with A1.

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We were told that we'd get a refund,

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then we were told that they needed to talk to management

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and since then, we've not heard anything.

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The team are still waiting for A1 to return the two deposits

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and the extra hire charge they took,

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to the tune of £1,543 and 56 pence.

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Understandably, they're not feeling too charitable about the situation.

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We got a lot of people to put their money into us to do this challenge,

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so it's definitely put a downer on it for us

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and definitely a downer on a trip that was actually a good trip.

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And Akin and his friends aren't alone.

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Meet Shareen Hall, who lives in Milton Keynes.

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Thanks to A1 National Van Hire,

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she's £759 out of pocket

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for hiring a van that she didn't end up using.

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It was a stressful period for Shareen,

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who had recently lost her husband.

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My late husband was living in Scotland when he passed away.

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I needed the van to go and sort out some belongings

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to, er, bring back, to clear out of the house.

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She was expecting the van to be delivered to her daughter's house in Barnsley at 10am.

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We had a phone call to say that...

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..they couldn't provide us with the van at the booked time

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because, erm,

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the tail lift on the back of the van that's been allocated to us wasn't working.

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A1 said it would take some time to send a replacement

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so Shareen found a van through another company.

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But a week later, she discovered A1 had taken the hire charge from her account,

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making her overdrawn.

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A1 told Shareen that the money would be refunded straight away. It wasn't.

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After several weeks of phone calls and emails, she took independent advice.

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I was told to send a letter to them, giving them time to respond.

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I gave them seven days because that's plenty of time.

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And then, erm,

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I still didn't hear nothing,

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so a second letter was sent

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and still nothing.

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As Shareen is no closer to getting her money back,

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she's called me in.

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And she and Akin aren't alone.

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I've had five more complaints about A1, taking the total to seven.

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More from the other disgruntled customers later.

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It's time to meet Akin and Shareen.

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It sounds to me like A1 National Van Hire

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haven't been treating their customers properly.

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I've arranged to meet a couple of them to hear it for myself.

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Hi, Shareen. Hi, Akin. Thanks for coming along.

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-Delighted to meet you.

-Lovely to meet you.

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I know you guys don't know each other,

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but you do share a common problem with a company named...

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A1 National Van Hire.

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-Same with you?

-Yes.

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Akin and Shareen have had money taken from their accounts when it shouldn't have been,

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in Akin's case, two lots of hire charges and deposits.

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They've paid around £2,000 and are owed back just over £1,500.

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-It's a lot of money for anybody.

-Yes.

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-Who had forked that money out?

-That was split between us.

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'And Shareen is £759 out of pocket

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'for a hire charge and deposit on a van she never set eyes on.'

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-You must feel like you've been robbed.

-Oh, yes! Of course I do!

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It made a deeply upsetting time,

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clearing her late husband's home, even more stressful.

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It was hard. I knew that, erm,

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I was actually...

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..finalising the time that I'd had with Martin.

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The final time that I shut the front door, I did cry.

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I'm appalled by Akin and Shareen's stories.

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As they tell me about their unsuccessful attempts to reclaim their money,

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I don't feel any better.

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They said they'd look into it.

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We had a couple more calls where they said, "It's someone else's problem!"

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-or they sent us to a different department.

-Fobbed you off, basically.

-Yes.

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They stopped replying to that, so we sent a letter

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formalising what we'd paid and what we were owed.

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They didn't respond to that.

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We sent several emails and they didn't respond.

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Has anybody ever given you a straightforward reason why they've not refunded your money?

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No. I've not heard nothing from them.

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-So a bit like Akin, you feel you're getting fobbed off?

-Absolutely, yes,

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because I was phoning them up every day, every other day,

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and every time I phoned them up, they just came up with an excuse.

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And every time I phoned them, they were absolutely downright rude!

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'I'm not surprised that the experience with A1 National Van Hire

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'has left a nasty taste for both Akin and Shareen.'

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Their customer service has been poor.

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They're certainly not a company I'd like to deal with again.

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'For Akin and his friends, it soured what should've been a celebration.'

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The money still went to charity, but we're out of pocket.

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It's quite disheartening.

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'And being without his money continues to cause problems for Akin.'

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Being a PhD student, it's money that I could definitely do with.

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'For Shareen, who can't work due to a heart condition,

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'it's been a strain.'

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How badly has this hit you, Shareen?

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It's left me in debt,

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erm, I've had bank charges for non-payment of direct debits.

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As a result of the money being taken and you never even got the van,

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-you had neighbours buying you dinner and feeding your electric meter.

-Yes.

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-And my daughter.

-Things got that bad?

-Yes.

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I was literally scraping around for every penny that I could find

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through my pockets, through my bags.

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'As Akin and Shareen's efforts to reclaim their money have stalled,

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'I'm going to get into the driver's seat.'

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I'm going to try contacting the company

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and very politely ask for your money back and see where I go.

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I'll keep you informed.

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-Good to meet you, guys.

-Thanks.

-Cheerio, Shareen.

-Thank you.

-Take care. Bye.

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But before I start,

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I like to know a bit more about who I'm dealing with.

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Sadly, there's not that much information out there.

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On their website, A1 National Van Hire simply claim to be

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"the premier van hire and minibus hire experts in the UK".

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Time to call A1 to ask why they're withholding all these deposits.

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I know what the guvnor's called. Mr Hammond Kumar.

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Let's see if I can speak to him.

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PHONE RINGS

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Oh, hi. Could I speak to Hammond Kumar, please?

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It's Dominic Littlewood from the BBC.

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'I'm told he's not in at the moment.'

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Has he got an email address? I could drop him a line.

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'They happily give it to me.

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'It does seem to be a generic company address but it's a start.'

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Is there a mobile number I could ring him on, please?

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'The gentleman tells me he doesn't have his number, but they don't give them out anyway.'

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He is the boss, though, isn't he? 'I'm told that's right. I'll try Mr Kumar another time.'

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The boss, Mr Hammond Kumar, I've just confirmed that he is the guvnor there -

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that's always worth doing in case he denies it at a later date -

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he's out the office and won't be back for three hours.

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But I did get the email address.

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'I'm sending Hammond Kumar an email with details of all seven unhappy customers,

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'asking why A1 are still holding on to their deposits.

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'But as I get to grips with the issues of this case,

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'the question is, will I ever get to speak to Hammond Kumar?'

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Hmm... Let's try again.

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Wouldn't life be easier if we had a little insider knowledge,

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if we knew exactly how companies operated

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so, for once, we as consumers, could be ahead of the game?

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Well, I'm about to meet somebody who is fed up of keeping quiet

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and they're going to let you in on the tricks of the trade.

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Today, we're looking at estate agents.

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As property is a pricy business, it pays to be clued up.

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Our estate agent has been in the business for 22 years

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so there's not much he doesn't know about buying and selling property.

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And whilst most estate agents are reputable,

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he's going to raise the roof on the tactics used by some to get us to buy and sell.

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To protect him from industry backlash,

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we've concealed his identity.

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As an estate agent, how do you earn your money?

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Our money is obviously based on commission.

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You have to get a deal together. No deals, no commission.

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Don't be tricked by the agent that says they can get you the highest price

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because they will sign you into a long-term contract.

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Are you saying they just say the highest price

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because they know that we want the most we can get for our property, because maybe we want to move on,

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and they know full well that you're not going to get that?

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Absolutely. That's one of the tricks estate agents will use.

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The key feature for a vendor is to make sure you do your homework.

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Look on the internet to see who's got the most advertised sold,

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and choose local estate agents to come and value your house.

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So after the estate agent gets your business

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by inflating the asking price,

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how do they go about selling your property and making their commission?

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I have known for fictitious people to go round and look at properties, which are set up by the agents.

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How do you mean? Explain that a little more.

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-Your house is on the market for £200,000.

-Right.

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Somebody comes and views your property

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and offers you 180,000.

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-If he put forward an offer of 180, you're going to decline it.

-Mm-hm.

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If he put forward an offer of 170, which is a fictitious offer,

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you're going to decline it.

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But then if he goes back or pretends to say,

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"Look, they've come forward with their best possible offer of 178"

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you're going to be thinking, "That's 8,000 more. I'm not getting the interest."

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The agent would then say to you,

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"What about if I could get you the 180?"

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The difference between £10,000 on an estate agency fee is very minute.

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The incentive is getting some commission out of it.

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And what about hidden extras?

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When selling, you have to have an Energy Performance Certificate.

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Tell us about the EPC.

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Generally speaking, estate agents can get them for about £35.

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I'm sure I've heard estate agents say "If you come with us, we'll do that for free."

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Do not be fooled by the word "free".

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On your contract, it will say that the EPC is provided by the estate agent.

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If you want to break the contract or the property doesn't sell,

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they will charge you and it could be up to £150,

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when they would pay £35 for it.

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All EPCs have to be registered so check on the internet.

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If there's an existing one, you can download it yourself.

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Now, what do we need to look out for if we're the buyer?

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When buying a property, it's often the case there's more than one buyer interested.

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How do you know that the estate agent is looking out for you?

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The agent is looking out for himself. It's a business.

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If somebody offered you 180 for your house

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on a price band of 180 to 200,

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the agent would, or could, say

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they've already had a higher offer, knowing full well that they haven't.

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-And now you're potentially just bidding against yourself.

-Absolutely!

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-I've got to ask about the sales patter.

-Yes.

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When you're buying a property, you get through the door,

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what kind of things would you use to make me want to buy the property?

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You'll tell them the features of the property.

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-You're not under any legal obligation to notify them of any defects.

-OK.

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If there has been a survey done,

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you're not legally obliged to give them any information about that survey.

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An estate agent is legally obliged to disclose any information that is asked.

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We cannot mislead you.

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So don't assume the estate agent will always be transparent.

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Other tips are - if you're selling, shop around.

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Don't just go with the estate agent who says they can get you the most for your property.

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If you're buying, know what the local market is

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and what price comparable properties are on sale for.

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-Thanks for coming in today.

-Pleasure. Thank you for having me.

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So now you know some of the insider info,

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you've got nothing stopping you climbing that property ladder.

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I've been helping Shareen Hall and Akin Ali,

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who have complaints against A1 National Van Hire

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about withholding their deposits.

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Akin's group are owed just over £1,500

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and Shareen is owed £759.

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I said, "I'm absolutely penniless. I've got no money."

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They just didn't want to know.

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So far, I've been unable to get through to the boss of the company.

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I've received a total of seven complaints about A1,

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all with a similar story.

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Whenever we make a large purchase or a rental,

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it wouldn't be unusual for someone to request a deposit upfront.

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Fair enough.

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But what if, when the time came for you to get your deposit back,

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you found you couldn't?

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Meet Leon Heynes. He's in a Killers tribute band.

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They needed a van to get to a gig.

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The hire price was 95.99,

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with a £250 refundable deposit.

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Derek and Victoria hired a van

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to move some of their daughter's belongings.

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I realised there was a deposit being taken, and I knew that it was £500,

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and the actual cost of the van hire on the day

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was £140 and 99 pence.

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And Helen also hired a van for a house move,

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to help her parents downsize.

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They had a lot of furniture to get rid of

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so me and my sister said we'd happily relieve them of some.

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It wasn't until two weeks later, when we checked our statement,

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that we realised they'd taken a £500 deposit that we weren't aware of.

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Uh-oh. I think I know where this is going!

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After a week, I realised that my deposit hadn't been refunded.

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When I realised the deposit hadn't been returned, I was really surprised

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because I assumed it would be there within a couple of days,

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the same as the deposit was taken from out of our account.

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That's when I started telephoning them.

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Leon, Helen, Derek and Victoria

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all made contact with A1 to ask for their deposits back.

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Like Shareen and Akin, they were told the money would be refunded

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but it never was.

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Alarm bells started ringing in regards to their customer service on the first day that I called.

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They picked up the phone and didn't say what company they were.

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I had to do all the guesswork.

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The more I phoned back, the more ruder they became.

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You get passed from pillar to post, from one person to another,

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and it's not constructive whatsoever.

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And you guessed it - like Akin, Shareen and the other two people I heard from,

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these three are still waiting for their money to be refunded.

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As we've been unable to reach A1 on the phone,

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we've emailed them details of all these complaints.

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And it seems I'm not the only one who has had problems getting them on the phone.

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We were given the run-around a bit before they stopped contacting us.

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This issue has got me thinking.

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Every time we hire something,

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be it a car, a suit for a wedding or boat on a summer holiday,

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we expect to put down a deposit.

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What happens to our money when we pay a deposit

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and what can we do if it's not returned?

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Someone who knows all about this monetary minefield

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is Andy Foster from Trading Standards.

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There are two types of ways in which the company will take a deposit.

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One will be a ring-fenced arrangement

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where they will take the money - from your credit card typically -

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and that money is processed like a transaction, so debited from your account.

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The other way is some kind of refundable deposit,

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so they'll pre-authorise your credit card.

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In general terms, most reputable companies will use that money

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and put it into a separate account, like a client account,

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so they know that they have to refund it and the money is safe.

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Generally speaking, there are no legal requirements for how a company stores your money.

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But what about when it's time to return it?

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As far as your consumer rights are concerned, it's simple.

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You're entitled to your deposit so long as you satisfy your conditions of the contract.

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If a customer is unable to get their deposit back,

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go back to the business and ask them why.

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Ask them to set out the reasons why they're withholding it and try and rectify it.

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What if you end up in a dispute with a company

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who won't return your deposit?

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You need to go to Trading Standards for further help.

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Or if they're a member of the Trade Association, go to them,

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who will be able to intervene on your behalf

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and arbitrate a satisfactory outcome.

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There is one time when you will probably not get your money back

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and that is in the event of business failure.

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If the business goes into liquidation or stops trading in some way,

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the chances are your money is lost.

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This is all about choosing your company wisely.

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So do your homework.

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If you're handing over a deposit to a company,

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make sure they're reputable, with a long track record of customer satisfaction

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otherwise you might not see it again.

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Deposits ranging from £250 to £1,000

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have been withheld by A1 National Van Hire

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for all seven of the complaints I've received.

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And looking on the internet, there seems to be plenty more.

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Whenever I hear about companies that have more than one complaint about them,

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one of the first things I do is go on the internet,

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in this case, Facebook.

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I'll type in their name, A1...

0:20:520:20:55

..National...

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..Van Hire,

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because I can bet your bottom dollar that if there's more than one complaint,

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there's probably a group of people complaining.

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"I contacted Watchdog, too. Not sure what step to take next."

0:21:070:21:11

She should've called Don't Get Done Get Dom! Never mind.

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Someone here's contacted Leicester's Trading Standards.

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Someone's contacted their MP.

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Crikey! Need I say any more?

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I've got pages and pages of complaints.

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So far, the only meaningful communication I've had with A1 has been one-way.

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I've got to say, I'm surprised, but we've had an email from A1

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responding to our group of unhappy customers.

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They're blaming this on their PDQ machine,

0:21:400:21:44

saying it wasn't working correctly.

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That's the little machine that takes your credit cards.

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However, it doesn't mention why they took some people's money twice. Strange that.

0:21:490:21:54

They're saying that they've had everybody's bank details back so they're able to make the refunds,

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apart from Akin's friend Mark, who's card was used to make their booking.

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They're saying they haven't got his bank details.

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I'm not going to forget about this last problem with Akin's friend,

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but this is good news for the other six cases I've been dealing with

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who have had their deposits withheld.

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Receiving the £250 back might not seem a lot to some people,

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but it meant a big deal to myself.

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We're very pleased to have got the deposit back. We think Dom helped us immensely.

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I'd like to thank Dom for helping us customers tackle A1 and getting our money back.

0:22:290:22:33

But Akin and Shareen's cases are not just about deposits.

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Shareen's case was slightly different.

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She didn't just have her deposit withheld,

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she was also charged for a van she never even saw.

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There was no way I was going to have a van through them anyway

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and give them my custom.

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And in Akin's case, A1 say they can't refund the money

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because Akin and his friends haven't provided them with bank details to make the refund.

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He told me they were hesitant to hand them over in an email

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when the company had their credit card details from the original transaction.

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But was this the right thing to do?

0:23:090:23:11

One of the riskiest ways of exchanging information,

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particularly personal or financial information,

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is through email. Just don't.

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It's one of the most unsecure methods of communication that is out there.

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If you need to exchange sensitive information,

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do it in person or do it in a way that you're happy with,

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but don't do it by email.

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Sending your bank details via email

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to somebody who you already don't quite trust

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does carry an element of risk.

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You can hardly blame Akin or his friend Mark

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for erring on the side of caution.

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The battle with A1 is not over yet.

0:23:440:23:48

"It has not been possible to connect your call. Please try again later."

0:23:480:23:53

When the money was put back in your account,

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did Hammond Kumar or his company

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give you a letter of apology or a phone call

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-or any sort of apology at all?

-No. None whatsoever.

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More and more of you are becoming consumer savvy.

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By putting your knowledge to the test, you're getting cracking results

0:24:090:24:13

when it comes to your fight against the big boys.

0:24:130:24:15

Here's just one story of how you did it.

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This is Howard Lilley,

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who lives in the small village of Frittenden in Kent.

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Here, the houses run their heating from oil,

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but when visiting a neighbour,

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Howard discovered that's where the similarities ended.

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We were at a Christmas drinks do in 1994, I think,

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and we were with this lovely old lady

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and she told me that she'd received a Christmas hamper from an oil supplier.

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Now, being a somewhat suspicious character, I wondered why.

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So a few days later, I asked if she would let me have a look at her invoices for oil.

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I discovered that she was paying considerably more than me.

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In those days, I think it was about seven or eight pence a litre

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and she was paying 13 or 14.

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That might sound cheap these days, but it was still a significant discrepancy.

0:25:070:25:12

I felt angry that the company was taking advantage of her

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because she came from an era where, if she phoned up a company,

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she would expect them to deal honestly with her.

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She was one of these people that would trust people.

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I felt it was a breach of trust.

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But rather than just feel aggrieved,

0:25:270:25:30

Howard was fired up to do something about it.

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I said to her, "This is not good.

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"How about I buy your oil for you in future?"

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because her house was a similar size to mine,

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we used about the same amount of oil.

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A seasoned negotiator from his former career in sales and marketing,

0:25:470:25:51

Howard put his experience to good use.

0:25:510:25:53

In my working career, I dealt with some fairly major companies

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so I was quite happy to negotiate at a senior level, if need be.

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But I'd always phoned around

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and got the best price I could from the various oil suppliers,

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so this particular time I included this lady on my order

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and did it for two of us.

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It was at this point that he realised the potential of his plan to help his neighbour.

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It just occurred to me that if I'm buying for her,

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why not try and get a tanker-load and see if we could get a better price,

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and it turns out you could.

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I spoke to a few friends and I think it was nine of us did it the first time round.

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We bought just under 18,000 litres,

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which is one of the big six-wheeler-tanker lorry-loads.

0:26:380:26:42

How was Howard selling this idea to the oil companies

0:26:420:26:45

whilst negotiating his next deal?

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The saving for the oil company is that they can come to one small area

0:26:480:26:51

and empty a tanker very quickly, without doing a lot of mileage.

0:26:510:26:56

What I'm asking them for is

0:26:560:26:58

at least part of that saving in a reduced price for my members.

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Over the years, news of the scheme spread.

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I started my group, I think,

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with, erm, I believe about nine or ten people

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and I'm now up to 230 for the Frittenden group.

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So it just grew organically, if you like, for quite a few years.

0:27:160:27:21

So the oil companies save money by delivering in bulk

0:27:210:27:24

and, currently, 230 villagers enjoy a discount on their heating fuel.

0:27:240:27:30

But wait until you hear how much they've saved.

0:27:300:27:33

Personally, I have bought just under 40,000 litres of oil,

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which, if you work at an average saving of about 4.5 pence a litre,

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means that I have saved getting on for £18,000 by doing it.

0:27:430:27:47

For the Frittenden Village Group,

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I've bought a total of 2.6 million litres

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over that same period of time,

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which again, at the same sort of average saving of 4.5 pence a litre,

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gives us a saving of just over £117,000.

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Yes, you heard correctly. That's £117,000.

0:28:040:28:10

And it's better for the environment, as well,

0:28:100:28:12

as fewer tanker trips are required to deliver the same amount of fuel.

0:28:120:28:17

I think we would probably have been saving about £50 of fuel,

0:28:170:28:23

having joined the group.

0:28:230:28:25

I think that I get two free weeks, by Howard doing this,

0:28:250:28:30

in the winter.

0:28:300:28:31

Howard does a very good deal

0:28:310:28:33

and we always get well below what is the advertised market rate.

0:28:330:28:39

It's very, very wonderful

0:28:390:28:41

to have someone like Howard doing this for us.

0:28:410:28:44

Such a large number of people on his database

0:28:440:28:46

means a lot of hard work for Howard,

0:28:460:28:49

but he does it all out of a burning love for his home town.

0:28:490:28:52

I don't charge for this because it's a community service

0:28:520:28:57

on behalf of village that deserves it, I believe.

0:28:570:29:01

He's a wonderful guy and his heart's in the village.

0:29:010:29:04

He's doing this not for any gain of his own,

0:29:040:29:06

but simply to help out other people in the village

0:29:060:29:09

and to make sure that we don't get ripped off by unscrupulous companies.

0:29:090:29:13

So thanks to Howard's dedication,

0:29:130:29:16

the consumer, the oil suppliers and the environment are all winners.

0:29:160:29:20

What's his top tip for making sure you always get the best deal?

0:29:200:29:26

It is up to the buyer to negotiate.

0:29:260:29:29

If you want a better price you've got to ask for it,

0:29:290:29:32

you can't expect them to give it to you.

0:29:320:29:35

See you again, I hope! Cheers. Bye-bye!

0:29:350:29:37

I've been helping a group of people,

0:29:400:29:43

all with complaints about A1 National Van Hire's less-than-A1 service,

0:29:430:29:47

withholding people's deposits.

0:29:470:29:50

At the time, I felt very angry.

0:29:500:29:51

They're just not listening, they're not willing to give you anything.

0:29:510:29:55

So far, we've been able to get a good result

0:29:550:29:58

for the majority of our unhappy customers

0:29:580:30:00

who have now had their deposits returned.

0:30:000:30:03

But in the case of Shareen Hall,

0:30:030:30:05

not only was her deposit withheld,

0:30:050:30:08

she cancelled the hire when they couldn't deliver the van on time,

0:30:080:30:11

yet they still took the deposit and hire charge from her.

0:30:110:30:16

After about five months of Shareen trying to get her money back from A1 National Van Hire

0:30:160:30:21

without any luck - and trust me, she's needed it -

0:30:210:30:24

there's finally been developments in this case.

0:30:240:30:27

I'm off to meet her to find out what's been going on.

0:30:270:30:31

-Hiya, Shareen!

-Oh, hello.

-Nice to see you again.

-And you.

0:30:400:30:43

-Any chance of coming in?

-Yes, come on in.

-Thanks very much.

0:30:430:30:47

-It's good to see you again.

-And you.

0:30:490:30:51

I've got some news for you and I believe you've got some for me.

0:30:510:30:54

The situation you got yourself into when this money was taken from your account

0:30:540:30:59

was pretty dire last time we met.

0:30:590:31:01

I was left penniless, really.

0:31:010:31:04

I'd got no money whatsoever and I was...

0:31:040:31:07

My friend and my daughter were, er,

0:31:070:31:12

lending me money to pay for my electric

0:31:120:31:16

and feed me and different things like that.

0:31:160:31:19

Shareen had been in contact with A1 multiple times herself

0:31:190:31:23

regarding the return of her money, but had got nowhere.

0:31:230:31:26

I'm not usually a quitter

0:31:260:31:28

but I really didn't know what else to do.

0:31:280:31:32

You know, I just thought I'd exhausted all avenues, really.

0:31:320:31:36

Which is when she turned to me.

0:31:360:31:38

But I haven't found it easy dealing with the company, either.

0:31:380:31:42

Every time I've phoned and tried to speak to Hammond Kumar,

0:31:420:31:45

he hasn't been available, he's not been there.

0:31:450:31:48

'But I've been told Shareen does have some good news for me.'

0:31:480:31:51

I had a phone call, erm, to ask me to check my bank account.

0:31:510:31:57

My money had been returned,

0:31:570:31:59

all £759...

0:31:590:32:02

..and 18 pence.

0:32:020:32:04

-The full amount?

-Yes.

0:32:040:32:06

When the money was put back in your account, did Hammond Kumar or his company

0:32:060:32:10

give you a letter of apology or a phone call

0:32:100:32:12

or any sort of apology at all?

0:32:120:32:15

No. None whatsoever. There was no email, no phone call,

0:32:150:32:18

no letter, no nothing. I never heard a word.

0:32:180:32:22

I'm thrilled for Shareen,

0:32:220:32:24

but it's disappointing that A1 or Mr Hammond Kumar haven't acknowledged their error

0:32:240:32:28

and the financial difficulties they caused Shareen.

0:32:280:32:31

I couldn't ask him for any compensation

0:32:310:32:33

or your out-of-pocket expenses to be covered,

0:32:330:32:35

but the important thing is, you have got your money back.

0:32:350:32:38

-You're back in the black now and out of the red.

-Yes, I am.

-Good.

0:32:380:32:44

I would imagine that is a huge weight off your shoulders.

0:32:440:32:46

Oh, yes, unbelievable,

0:32:460:32:48

because I really couldn't see me getting it back at all

0:32:480:32:53

after all the phone calls and everything that I made, erm,

0:32:530:32:58

and getting in touch with my bank, as well,

0:32:580:33:01

I really didn't think that I would see it again.

0:33:010:33:04

Shareen, on that note, I wish you all the best for the future.

0:33:040:33:07

-Thank you.

-Good luck.

0:33:070:33:09

-Don't hesitate to call if you get any more problems like that. Cheerio.

-Thank you.

0:33:090:33:13

I can't thank Dom enough, actually.

0:33:130:33:16

I never expected to get my money back.

0:33:160:33:18

Her dealings with A1 National Van Hire are in the past,

0:33:180:33:21

but there is a lesson there.

0:33:210:33:23

If you're about to use a company, check them out on the internet first.

0:33:230:33:27

If she had, she never would've used them.

0:33:270:33:31

Shareen and five of the others who contacted me have now all been refunded.

0:33:310:33:35

I was happily surprised to find my £200 had been returned by A1.

0:33:350:33:40

The fact that Dom's been able to help us is absolutely fantastic.

0:33:400:33:43

Hopefully, he's done a good job for everybody else, as well.

0:33:430:33:48

Well, I'd like to think so, but I'm left with just one problem.

0:33:480:33:53

Akin and his friends still haven't had their money returned.

0:33:530:33:57

They've had £1,000 of the £1,543.56 pence they're owed

0:33:570:34:02

put back onto the card by the credit card provider.

0:34:020:34:06

But this is a temporary measure,

0:34:060:34:08

pending the bank's own investigations into A1,

0:34:080:34:12

so it's not safe yet.

0:34:120:34:14

I'm really not happy. I'm going to try and speak to the owner, Hammond Kumar, once again

0:34:140:34:19

to find out why Akin and his friends are still waiting for their money.

0:34:190:34:25

Let me predict what's going to happen here.

0:34:250:34:28

I'm either not going to be able to speak to him

0:34:280:34:30

or I'm going to be told he's not there

0:34:300:34:32

and he'll call me back, which won't happen.

0:34:320:34:36

"It has not been possible to connect your call.

0:34:390:34:41

"Please try again later."

0:34:410:34:44

"It has not been possible to connect your call..."

0:34:440:34:47

Have they changed their number?

0:34:470:34:50

Hm...

0:34:500:34:51

Let's try again.

0:34:510:34:53

"It has not been possible to connect your call.

0:34:580:35:01

-"Please try again later."

-Hm...

0:35:010:35:03

Interesting. Have they closed down

0:35:040:35:07

or have they just changed their number?

0:35:070:35:10

Have I become the catalyst for that?

0:35:100:35:12

This case has been a difficult one to crack all along

0:35:120:35:15

and this is not making me feel any better.

0:35:150:35:19

I've asked Akin to do some digging into what's going on with A1

0:35:190:35:23

with an organisation called Companies House.

0:35:230:35:27

Who exactly are Companies House and what do they do?

0:35:270:35:31

Companies House is a registry of company information

0:35:310:35:34

and we record all details of limited companies.

0:35:340:35:40

That allows us then to keep records,

0:35:400:35:44

which we make available to the public.

0:35:440:35:46

If you want to find out about a company and its status,

0:35:460:35:49

it's pretty simple to access the information.

0:35:490:35:52

Most of it is available for free or a small fee - 50p or £1.

0:35:520:35:56

All we need is company name and/or company number.

0:35:560:36:01

If I just put that in there... It's A1 National Van Hire Ltd, yes?

0:36:010:36:07

You've got their accounting records there,

0:36:070:36:09

when their accounts were due

0:36:090:36:12

and when their last annual return was due

0:36:120:36:15

and when the next one is.

0:36:150:36:17

They're overdue on their return

0:36:170:36:19

and the status is now "Proposal to Strike Off".

0:36:190:36:23

This means that A1 will effectively be forced to close down.

0:36:230:36:27

For a company to get to this stage,

0:36:270:36:29

Companies House will have tried contacting them on numerous occasions

0:36:290:36:32

to ensure they file the relevant paperwork.

0:36:320:36:35

In the case of no response,

0:36:350:36:37

a decision will be made to go down the strike-off route.

0:36:370:36:40

Public notice goes in the paper The London Gazette

0:36:400:36:43

and the company will be struck off around three months later.

0:36:430:36:47

If they've been struck off,

0:36:470:36:48

how does that affect how we can claim our money back?

0:36:480:36:52

It's perhaps easier if they're still on the register

0:36:520:36:55

and they'll still have obligations under the Companies Act.

0:36:550:37:00

You can put an objection to the Registrar of Companies.

0:37:000:37:05

You can do that by putting it in writing, so a letter or email.

0:37:050:37:09

You just have to show current documentary evidence

0:37:090:37:13

that you're actively pursuing the company for a debt.

0:37:130:37:17

Akin has the credit card statement

0:37:170:37:20

showing they were charged twice and are owed £1,543.56 pence,

0:37:200:37:24

plus proof of his correspondence with A1,

0:37:240:37:27

not forgetting mine, too, so he can easily provide that.

0:37:270:37:32

The registrar will review it all

0:37:320:37:34

and if there's reason to keep the company active,

0:37:340:37:38

an objection will then be put in place,

0:37:380:37:41

which would be for a six-month period.

0:37:410:37:44

By stopping a company being struck off,

0:37:440:37:46

anyone with a dispute has a much better chance of getting the matter resolved

0:37:460:37:51

as the company remains active and details, such as addresses and phone numbers, remain traceable.

0:37:510:37:57

It means Akin can still pursue A1 for his and his friend's money.

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That's great to know. It's useful that you can see all their information.

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Hopefully, you'll get your money back and resolve the issue.

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-Best of luck.

-Thanks very much.

-OK.

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So the next step for Akin and his friends is to write to Companies House,

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objecting to A1 being struck off. Ha!

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I'm in a better position because I know what I can do

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to stop them getting struck off the Companies House list

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and that can help me get the money back that I'm owed.

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Striking whilst the iron is hot,

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Akin's friend Mark, whose credit card was used to make the booking with A1,

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sends a letter to Companies House, objecting to them being struck off,

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including details of the money owed

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and evidence of all the contact we've had with A1.

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Speaking of contact,

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I finally heard back from the elusive Mr Hammond Kumar.

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He emailed the office and in a statement to us, he said...

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We already know this but it's good to hear it again.

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He also states...

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Nice for his customers to finally get an apology.

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But what about Akin's friend Mark and the money that is still outstanding to him?

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Well, Mr Kumar does say A1 Van Hire...

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OK, at least he's aware that Mark's credit card provider is on the case, as well.

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But the question is, what has he done about it?

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Akin and four of his buddies went on a charity hike

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and raised quite a lot of money for Parkinson's UK.

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For young lads, that's very noble of them.

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Unfortunately, because they hired their van from A1 National Van Hire,

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they were all left quite severely out of pocket.

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I'm here to give them some good news.

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Hi, Akin. Are you all right? How're you doing, bud?

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'After getting nowhere themselves with getting their money back, I took over the case.

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'Time to give Akin an update.'

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The name of the boss is Hammond Kumar.

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I phoned up and tried to speak to him on numerous occasions,

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and although I spoke to various different people,

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everybody denied being him or saying he wasn't there.

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He wouldn't address the situation He didn't return my calls.

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He didn't answer my emails. He was very, very evasive.

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Akin and his friends are owed £1,543.56 pence by A1.

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After Akin met with Companies House,

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it looked like we'd made a breakthrough with stopping A1 being struck off,

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but there's been further developments.

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HMRC - Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs -

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had beaten him to it and were in the process of winding them up,

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so Mark couldn't stop that happening.

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Now, that company does go bust, you join a long list of creditors

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and it means there's very little chance of you getting any money back

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and even less chance of getting all of your money back,

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so things aren't looking good.

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'Mark could potentially reclaim some money back through his credit card provider,

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'but it's not a guarantee.'

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As you're probably aware,

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when Mark put the complaint in to his card provider,

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they credited him back with £1,000

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on the understanding that they give A1 National Van Hire

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90 days in which to respond and try and sort this problem out.

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If they do, they'll take that £1,000 back

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and you'll have to fight it through the courts.

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If they don't, you get the £1,000 back.

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Now, here's the news...

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He didn't respond to the allegations

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either at all or with the correct information.

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And Mark's card provider

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is now going to refund the extra £543.

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-Ah, great!

-Plus, the £1,000 is safe. It's money back.

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'It's fantastic news for Akin and his friends,

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'and it means that everyone who contacted me has had their money refunded.

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'What a result!'

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-How do you feel about it?

-Great! That's really good news!

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-I can tell you're chuffed!

-Yes!

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It's been such a struggle for all of us,

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but mainly for Mark because he's been the one that's been chasing them most.

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I'm really happy that that's been sorted.

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Akin, you and your buddies have done a lot of good work. Congratulations on that.

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-Don't let what's happened here put you off. Keep it up.

-I do.

-Try and make loads more.

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-It's been a pleasure.

-Thank you.

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All the best, mate. Good luck with that charity work.

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You can just see the relief and happiness on Akin's face.

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Him and his buddies deserve that money more than anybody else.

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I feel really proud that I managed to get it back for him.

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