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I've been fighting your consumer battles for years now.

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But the same old problems just keep flooding in.

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And it's all the usual suspects.

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Poor customer service, faulty goods and hidden small print.

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No wonder some of you are fed up with the way you're being treated.

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Staff not being attentive to the customers. Talking to each other rather than the customer.

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You're calling up someone to get through to the bank or your insurance company

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and you don't actually get to speak to someone.

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I find it really irritating.

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I couldn't agree more. Things need to change. We're on a mission to get companies to treat us better.

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I'll be taking on your cases and fighting your fight with the big companies.

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Well, it started off very amicably,

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and I said, "Please take note of these few questions." About a dozen!

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There were a few stingers in there. I bet she was thinking, "That's going to cause me a lot of work."

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And I'll be showing you how to shop smart and stay one step ahead.

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-Can they do this to you?

-No.

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-But it says it's a sale item.

-And?

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So remember, don't get done...

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Get Dom!

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On today's show, one couple battle to save their house from crumbling down around them.

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As you can see, Dom, this is actually a damp patch.

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Do you know what, that's so noticeable when I walked in,

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initially I thought that was just a shadow.

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Plus we look at the dangers of using an unregistered gas engineer.

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That took him about three months to do the boiler.

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And roving reporter Rani Price steps up a gear and finds out how clued up we are with car insurance.

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Is it the extra things that aren't covered, or the whole car?

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I'd say, the way you're looking, it's apparently not!

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There's no bigger purchase than buying your first home

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and nothing is as exciting as getting the keys on the day you complete the sale.

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But what would you do if on the day you moved in,

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you suddenly discovered there was a major problem with the house

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that was going to cost you thousands of pounds to sort out?

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Unfortunately, that's what's happened to John Blanch and Hannah Stone.

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They scrimped and saved for years to buy their first house together

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only to discover shortly after moving in,

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that it was riddled with damp.

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John and Hannah met ten years ago

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and recently got engaged.

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But instead of spending a fortune on getting married,

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they wanted to use their hard-earned cash to put a deposit down on the house.

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We looked for a while, we saw a lot of properties.

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This was the one that stood out more than any cos it was a little bit quirky.

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A little bit quaint, and we fell in love with it.

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They decided to buy the two-bed property so arranged a mortgage with Chelsea Building Society.

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John and Hannah needed to get a homebuyer's survey carried out

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to ensure there was nothing major wrong with the property

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and the building society said they could help with that, too.

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They used a company called Metropolis Surveyors

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and they put everything in action for us and we sat back and waited for the report to come through.

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The homebuyers report came back and there was nothing on it to worry John and Hannah.

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There were a few things flagged up like we expected such as replacement of the heating system,

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but there was nothing else that was suspect in there.

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Underneath the risk sections it stated "Dampness - none noted".

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But the couple had barely unpacked before they realised they had a problem.

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We started decorating. Within a couple of days we noticed little marks appearing in the paint.

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It was just apparent there was something wrong, wasn't there?

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When we rollered the walls, the old paint was coming off on the roller.

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It kept spreading and spreading.

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Then it became quite obvious we had a problem.

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And the problem just got worse and worse.

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When I first saw the damp patches,

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you try to tell yourself it's something else.

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You think, "No, we had the survey done. No way it's damp.

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"It said it was all clear."

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And so you try to kid yourself that it's something you can rectify.

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But obviously it wasn't.

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Hannah got straight onto the phone to her surveyors.

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We spoke to Metropolis several times back and forth.

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And when they sent us the last email they said they couldn't help us any further,

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they didn't feel it was their problem. That the was last we contacted them.

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Not knowing where to turn, the couple sought advice elsewhere.

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They were told to take their complaint to the Financial Ombudsman.

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They did look into the case

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but it came back as, um...

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That there was no case to put forward.

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John and Hannah feel they've had the wind knocked out of their sails.

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Moving into their first property

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should have been really exciting.

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But it's ended up causing them worry and stress.

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I'm keen to see if I can help,

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so I've come to meet them to find out what's happened since their initial complaint.

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-Hiya.

-Hi. I'm Hannah.

-Good to meet you.

-John.

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-John, nice to meet you.

-Come on in.

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How you doing today?

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'First off, I'd like to see this damp for myself.'

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This is an example of some of the damp we have in the property.

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As you can see, if you follow this shadow, this is a damp patch.

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Do you know, that's so noticeable, when I walked in, I thought that was a shadow.

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No, that's actually a patch of damp.

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Can you feel the damp? You can, can't you?

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On your hands.

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-So another plug socket there.

-Yeah.

-That's really damp, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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What surprises me is you can see it go right round here,

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but you've got a radiator that's on.

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-Yes.

-You say this is mostly downstairs.

-Yes.

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This runs throughout the whole of the downstairs. We've been told the damp is over 100% in the kitchen.

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-And then through the hallway.

-Crikey.

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'Time to get down to the details.'

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After you reported these problems to them,

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did anybody from Metropolis come back and have a look?

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Yeah, the guy that did the original survey came back.

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-It took quite a while to get to that stage, though.

-Right.

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He checked the bits we said we weren't happy with

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and went on his way.

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When the couple complained to Metropolis, they were told that during the original survey,

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the surveyor hadn't been able to check the walls

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as there was furniture in the way.

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They basically said that they couldn't test certain areas

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and that's why they didn't pick certain stuff up.

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'But the couple's homebuyer's report didn't say anything about being prevented from taking damp readings.

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'And under the headings "dampness", it simply stated "none noted".'

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Was there areas he couldn't get to?

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There might have been the odd area, but the dampness runs through the whole ground area,

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so if you can't test two walls, there's plenty of other areas to pick damp up from.

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And also it runs so high. It's over a metre.

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-Yes, it's obviously not a localised one corner spot or something.

-No.

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It's pretty much the whole ground floor.

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Even if somebody wasn't able to check a certain area,

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cos it was cluttered or he couldn't get there,

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surely they would have to report that and they'd have to state they weren't able to check whatever.

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This is one of our arguments. In the report, there's a section that says "limitations".

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He says, "There were no limitations to our inspection."

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And I said to Metropolis if the house was so cluttered they couldn't do an accurate damp test,

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then they should have put that in their limitations section.

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-To which they didn't respond.

-Didn't even give you an answer?

-No.

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-I don't feel that I've got what I paid for.

-No.

-At all.

-No.

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When we got told by the people fitting the heating

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that it was wet-through underneath the house,

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the house was soaking,

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that's when you realise that it was a really big problem.

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'Understandably worried, the couple ordered an independent survey

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'which stated they also had dry rot

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'and the problems had been present for between five and seven years.'

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Have you any idea how much it will cost to put all this damp right?

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We've had sort of semi quotes, so to speak, of ten grand to start with.

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-Ouch!

-And that's before they even find out what the problem is.

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Because specialists have come round and they say, "It could be this, could be that",

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-but they need to take everything out and find the actual fault.

-The root of it.

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Part of the floor had started to fall away.

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So one side of the floor has got no support to it at all.

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Right. Now we're starting to talk about mega-bucks.

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Once dry rot sets in, whether it's dry or wet rot,

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once that sets in, that's obviously a disease,

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and it spreads and before you know it you have to replace joists and rafters and God knows what.

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-Yep.

-And it's a job that needs doing because it can destroy the house from the inside out.

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How do you feel about this house right now?

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I think we just wish we hadn't bought it.

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-That's the bottom line.

-It's the biggest thing you'll ever buy

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in your life, and it's not the sort of thing you should think it's the worst mistake you've made.

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Talking about money, if you don't get anywhere,

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-can you afford to get the work done?

-No.

-No.

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So what will happen if we can't get this problem sorted out? What will you do about it?

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-I really don't know.

-I don't know.

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-Presumably, you can't afford to sell it because...

-We won't get nothing for it.

-Make a huge loss.

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I notice you've got an engagement ring on. When are you getting married?

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We haven't managed to set a date. We were going to buy a house and save up to get married.

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But that hasn't gone to plan cos all our money's going back into the house.

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-So you've had to put that on hold?

-Yes.

-Shame.

-Family life has kind of...

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-Taken a back seat.

-Yes.

-Yes.

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What a shame that should be the happiest time in a young couple's lives

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has been marred by something like this.

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I've got to start making some phone calls.

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As Metropolis Surveyors carried out the Homebuyer's Report,

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they're the people I most want to speak to.

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But what about John and Hannah's mortgage provider, Chelsea Building Society?

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After all, they gave the couple Metropolis's name.

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Chelsea Building Society have told us this is standard practice for a mortgage lender

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and that, "We offer applicants access to a wide panel

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"of professional and accredited surveyors

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"to carry out a survey on the home.

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"There is no obligation on an applicant to use one of these surveyors

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"or indeed, to have a survey done at all."

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They are also keen to point out that "the agreement to carry out a homebuyer report

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"or a building survey is between the applicant and the surveyor

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"and as the lender, we do not see it."

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So, it looks like my focus needs to be on Metropolis Surveyors.

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The company was set up in 2004

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and offer...

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Metropolis say they have over 100 surveyors working for them throughout England and Wales

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and they are committed to ensuring that their surveyors work to the highest standards possible

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in terms of...

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'I think John and Hannah would beg to differ.

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'I'm going to try and get hold of someone at Metropolis.'

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AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Welcome to Metropolis Surveyors.

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In order to direct your call to the relevant department,

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please select from the following. Press one...

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'The automated message reels off a list of departments

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'and after a bit of button pressing, I finally get through to a manager.'

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-'Melinda speaking.'

-Hello, Melinda. Good morning.

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It's Dominic Littlewood calling from the BBC.

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-Hello!

-Hi, there.

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We've had somebody contact us and they've got an issue with you/ Chelsea Building Society.

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It's linked together. But I think it's mainly you. You're the first call I've made.

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I'd like to give you all the details.

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I don't expect any answers or anything now, so don't worry about that.

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-'OK.'

-I can email everything over.

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'I bring Melinda up to speed on John and Hannah's case.'

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'If you can let me have the email, then we'll get on it for you.'

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Smashing. I'll get it over to you a little bit later on.

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-'All right. Thanks, Dominic.'

-Lovely talking to you. Bye.

-'Bye'.

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'I send the email to Melinda straightaway

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'and I'm glad I've got the ball rolling

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'because it's clear John and Hannah have a serious problem on their hands.

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'And when we call in some expert advice,

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'we learn just how serious those problems are.'

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That's significantly in the red.

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This is something that needs to be addressed. Quite soon.

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I'm Rani Price and there's nothing I like better

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than helping you, the buying public,

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through the minefield of regulations to make sure you stay savvy shoppers.

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Consumer law can be very confusing.

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And it doesn't stop there.

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But knowing just a few of these laws can save you not only money

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but a lot of hassle as well.

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Do you know what this is?

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'Today, I'm out on the streets armed with questions to put to you, the buying public.

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To find out if you know your consumer rights from your consumer wrongs.

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Car insurance. You can't get behind the wheel without it.

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But if you're not careful, when taking out insurance or making a claim,

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you might find you're not covered if the unthinkable happens.

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'So I'm going to conduct a little quiz with shoppers

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'to find out if they fully understand their road rights.'

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-Do you have car insurance?

-Yeah.

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Can I ask you how you chose who to go with?

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Did you use one of those comparison sites?

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Yeah, I went online to look.

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-I use search engines. Confused.com, things like that.

-Yep.

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I will go directly to organisations and I use a number of third-party websites as well.

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-Go Compare. One of them comparison websites.

-Why did you choose one of those?

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Easier. You don't have to look through all the websites.

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They do it for you. Put in your details and they find the best price.

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-OK. You go to the comparison sites.

-Exactly.

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Are you any good at filling those in when they ask all those questions?

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They say things like, "What's your job title?"

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Is your job listed on there?

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No. I had to put in... What did I have to put in?

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-I think I said "other".

-OK.

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I think there was an "other" option.

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Your job isn't there, so what do you normally do?

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I just put generic office-based job!

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You have a bit of a bump. You try and claim,

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and your insurance company say, "Your job isn't what you said it is.

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"We're not going to pay out."

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-Are they allowed to do this?

-No, I don't think they would be allowed to do that.

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They do say that certain people are a higher risk.

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So people who work in bars, around alcohol,

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people who do night shifts, they say, actually, your insurance should be higher.

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So if you do have a bump and you haven't told them your real job,

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they can refuse to pay out.

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I didn't know that.

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Well, you do now!

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Here's someone to fill us in with more of the facts

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about your work and the wheels you drive.

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If you're buying your insurance online,

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then check very carefully how they define risks such as occupation.

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If the occupation listed doesn't match what you do,

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call the insurer up or check with the comparison website.

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Because the last thing you want to do is put down a description of your occupation

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that doesn't tally with what you actually do.

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Unfortunately, you've had a bit of a bump.

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The car is written off.

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And the insurance company go, "I'll give you 1,200." And you go, "Hang on a minute!

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"My car's worth more than that!" What can you do in that situation? Can they do that to you?

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What would I do? I'd probably make a lot of noise and see what else they could do for me.

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Um... I would say yes!

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I think they'd do it from market value and stuff.

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Insurers go from the information they have on the vehicle.

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So if they're offering you an amount of money that doesn't enable you to go to your local garage

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and make a similar make and model of vehicle,

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you're within your rights to go back and argue your case.

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Give them evidence, for example, what it costs to buy a similar make and model of vehicle

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in your own garage. Then you can normally reach an agreed settlement with your insurer.

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You get your car. It's all lovely.

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But you decide to pimp it up a bit.

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OK? Get a sat-nav in there, a CD changer in there.

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You haven't told the insurance company. The car is stolen.

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You try to claim but the insurance company say it's void.

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-Your policy is void. Can they do that?

-Yes.

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Do they still need to pay out for those things?

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I would imagine so. But you're going to tell me that they don't.

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-Can you claim?

-You're not insured for all the extra things you put in it.

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-Yeah?

-OK.

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But what about for the car itself?

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Is it just the extra things that aren't covered, or the whole car?

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I'd say, from the way you're looking, probably not!

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If your car is stolen, you'll normally claim what the value of the vehicle is to replace.

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So if you've upgraded the vehicle

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then provided you've told the insurer, that would form part of your claim.

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But if you are making significant changes to your vehicle,

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you should always tell your insurer cos it could increase the risk.

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So, there you go. Knowing your rights when it comes to car insurance

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could save you a lot of pain when it comes to making a claim.

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'I've been answering a plea for help from John Blanch and Hannah Stone

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'who moved into their treasured first home

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'only to discover the property they've sacrificed so much for

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'was suffering from damp.'

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Everything is wet through, so we can't put a dining table in here

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or making it a room at all.

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We can't get on with putting our own touches on the property

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because there's no point in doing anything cos it's just going to get ruined.

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'Before the couple moved, they had a homebuyer's survey done

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'by a couple called Metropolis Surveyors.

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'Unfortunately, this survey made no mention of any damp problems

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'and it wasn't until the couple moved in

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'that they realised what they were facing.'

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What will happen if we can't get this problem sorted out? What will you do about it?

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-I really don't know.

-We don't know.

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'I've spoken to Metropolis Surveyors to let them know I'm on the case

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'and have emailed them an outline of John and Hannah's issues

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'and asked a few basic questions.

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'A chap called Richard has replied

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'so I'm going to give him a call.'

0:18:320:18:33

Good afternoon. Is Richard there, please?

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'The guy who answers tells me Richard no longer works there.'

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I got an email from him recently. How long ago did he leave?

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'He tells me he left a few days ago and will find out who I should talk to now.

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'He's quickly back on the line

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'and says I need to deal with a chap called Geoff,

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'the commercial director.

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'But he says Geoff's not in the office,

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'so can I send him an email.'

0:18:570:18:59

Smashing. Is Geoff around this afternoon?

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'He tells me that he won't be.

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'But if I email him, he'll get back to me soon.

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'Not good enough. So I change tack.'

0:19:060:19:09

Now, I'm struggling here, because I tried to get this guy's mobile number.

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They wouldn't give it to me. They said, "He's out of the office. Email him."

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I don't want to send an email. I want to speak to somebody personally.

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So I've said, give me his direct dial number and I'll leave a voice message.

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So I've got his direct dial number. There'll be no firewall to stop me getting through.

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'The guy comes back on the line and tells me the commercial director doesn't have a direct dial number

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'and goes on to say he doesn't even have a phone in his office!'

0:19:370:19:41

Hang on. He's your commercial director and he hasn't got a landline number?

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He hasn't got a phone on his desk?!

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'He then corrects himself, saying there is a phone in his office but no number to be put through to.

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'It's all a bit confusing.

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'All I want to do is chat to someone senior about John and Hannah's case.'

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I'm trying to sort this issue out here cos I'm making a programme.

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At the moment, I've been told the person who contacted us last week has now left the company.

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The person I need to speak to, Geoff, does all his business by mobile

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but you can't give the number out.

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I can't leave a message on his mobile and you can't put me through to his landline

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cos you're not sure he's got one in his office.

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'He says he'd rather not comment.'

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Fair enough. Well, I'll send him an email.

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Can you also, once I ring off,

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contact him via this mobile number that he's got

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and let him know we've attempted to call him to speak to him.

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And particularly urgently, if we can, really.

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'He asks for my contact details and says he'll pass them on to Geoff.'

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Thanks very much. Bye-bye.

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I fire off an email and hopefully I'll hear from Metropolis's commercial director Geoff soon.

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While I wait for them to get back to me,

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it leaves me some time to survey the world of surveyors.

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When you buy something as big as a house,

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you need to know exactly what you're getting into.

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Which is the reason we pay for surveys.

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But there are different sorts of surveys.

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How do you know which one's right for you?

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And what should you expect for your hard-earned cash?

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One organisation who can tell us are the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors,

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or RICS, as they're commonly known.

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When you're looking to buy a property, I don't think the consumer

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is actually the best place to actually decide

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what type of survey they should get.

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They should ask a local - and I do mean local - chartered surveyor

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who has the expertise and the knowledge of the area

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as to their advice as to what type of survey.

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They will know the area and the type of property.

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They will know the likely issues that might crop up with that property

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and they can advise you whether it is perfectly acceptable to have the basic condition report,

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whether you should have that middle homebuyer report,

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or whether indeed, especially on older properties,

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you'd be well worth going for the Building Survey.

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You don't have to have a survey done.

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On average, only 20% of housebuyers actually get one.

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But saving a few hundred pounds at this time

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could ultimately cost you thousands later on down the line.

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So, which type of survey is best?

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The Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors

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licence three survey products.

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The very basic one is called a condition report.

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It should really just point you at anything which is blindingly obvious.

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The middle one, a homebuyer's report,

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goes into more detail.

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It looks where it can into the nooks and crannies.

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It should pick up any major issues

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and then either gives advice or will point people in the direction of further reports that are required.

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Then there's a Building Survey.

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It takes quite a long time for a surveyor to do.

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It's a full report that gives a lot of advice as to the condition of a property.

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'So you know what survey to have.

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'But who do you commission to carry out the report?

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Like all things in life, it's certainly worth shopping around

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before you decide who should carry out the survey for you.

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You should only be looking for a chartered surveyor.

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That is a qualified member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors

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who have gone through many, many years of study and training

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before they can become qualified.

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This is great advice for anyone buying a property.

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But what if you're not happy with a survey that's been done?

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Well, you could do a lot worse

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than to ask other surveyors to take a look and give you a second opinion.

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It will cost you, but could be money well spent.

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So we've arranged for an independent surveyor to visit John and Hannah's.

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What I'd like to do now is check the property for dampness.

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And to see if there is any evidence of dampness

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and to see if that dampness would have been present at the time.

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The first thing Barry does is inspect the walls with his damp meter

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taking readings from different areas.

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That starts to be in an area of concern.

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Where it's in the amber.

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But as we move down...

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..it starts to go into the red.

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And we test other areas.

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And that's quite significantly in the red.

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This is something that needs to be addressed.

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Quite soon.

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'And things carry on as they began.'

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This wall is affected by quite significant dampness.

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It's affecting the wall plaster

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and also the skirtings.

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And the skirting board is damp to maximum levels on the damp meter scale.

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In my view, that would have been apparent at the time this survey was done.

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I've had a look at the house.

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And yes, there is dampness, as you suspected.

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I have to say I'm disappointed in this report.

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It doesn't really give you a fair indication in my view

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of the condition of the property when you purchased it.

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And now, very, very sadly, you're faced with further expenditure to deal with this dampness.

0:25:210:25:29

'What a shocker for John and Hannah.

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'The work needed to fix the damp could cost thousands.

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'And now we have the results from Barry's tests,

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'I decide to share them with Metropolis.'

0:25:370:25:39

Our report doesn't bode too well on their findings.

0:25:390:25:43

'I get through to a young man who tell me Metropolis's commercial director Geoff

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'is not in the office for the rest of the week.'

0:25:510:25:53

Who can deal with anything in his absence?

0:25:530:25:55

'I'm told there's no-one else who can help and I just need to wait for Geoff.'

0:25:550:25:59

Thanks very much. Bye-bye. Bye.

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'However, I do now have his mobile number

0:26:020:26:05

'because it was at the bottom of an email.

0:26:050:26:08

'But when I ring, it goes straight to his answer machine.'

0:26:080:26:10

Can you give us a call? I wanted to have a chat with you

0:26:100:26:13

about the whole problem and see if we can get it sorted out.

0:26:130:26:16

As I say, press 5 and it'll reconnect to me.

0:26:160:26:19

Thanks, Geoff. Speak to you soon. Bye.

0:26:190:26:21

Right. Can't do more than that.

0:26:230:26:26

I've left messages on his work and on his mobile.

0:26:260:26:28

And a return number. Let's see how long it takes him to come back to me.

0:26:280:26:32

'An hour later, I get an email from Geoff.

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'He says that Metropolis have carried out thousands of surveys

0:26:350:26:39

'and while some have been the subject of complaints,

0:26:390:26:41

'their complaints procedure has been used to satisfy these.

0:26:410:26:45

'If not, he says the Ombudsman Scheme is adequate for members of the public.

0:26:450:26:49

'Now, John and Hannah did put in a complaint with an ombudsman.

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'The Financial Ombudsman.

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'And they looked at the mortgage provider, Chelsea Building Society.

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'But, because it wasn't them who carried out the survey,

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'there was no case to answer.

0:27:010:27:03

'Knowing this, I get the couple to gather all their evidence along with the surveyor's report

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'and get it in the post to the right ombudsman,

0:27:090:27:11

'the Ombudsman Services Property.

0:27:110:27:14

'While we're at it, we send Metropolis a copy as well.

0:27:140:27:17

'But who are the Ombudsman Service, and how can they help?'

0:27:170:27:21

We will only look at a complaint if it's already been made

0:27:210:27:26

to the surveyor, and they've had an opportunity to respond to it.

0:27:260:27:29

Once they've done that, we'll ask for evidence from both sides

0:27:290:27:31

and we look at that evidence in order to inform what we do next.

0:27:310:27:35

'This sounds like just what we need.

0:27:350:27:37

'If the Ombudsman Services find something that's gone wrong in the survey,

0:27:370:27:40

'they can take action.'

0:27:400:27:42

We'd propose a settlement that we think would put it right.

0:27:420:27:45

If that's accepted by the consumer, then it's legally binding.

0:27:450:27:48

For example, we can make a financial award of up to £25,000 in surveying cases.

0:27:480:27:53

So they may have to pay that amount as restitution.

0:27:530:27:56

We may ask them to take some particular action to put it right.

0:27:560:28:00

By legally binding, it means they've got to pay the award.

0:28:000:28:04

If they don't pay the award, then they may end up in a disciplinary action with RICS.

0:28:040:28:11

'Sounds serious. And good news for jilted homebuyers.

0:28:110:28:15

'But in order to not end up one, listen carefully.'

0:28:150:28:18

First, remember that your property is the most expensive and the most important thing you'll ever buy.

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So make sure you have more than a valuation report.

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Make sure the surveyor you use is either RICS registered

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or, alternatively, you have access to the ombudsman if something should go wrong.

0:28:400:28:45

'After hearing those wise words,

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'I just hope the Ombudsman Service does John and Hannah a service.'

0:28:480:28:52

It's just nice to have something positive to hang on to for once.

0:28:530:28:57

We get thousands of emails asking for our help.

0:29:010:29:04

Unfortunately, we can't answer all of them.

0:29:040:29:07

What we can do is warn you about some of the common consumer pitfalls

0:29:070:29:11

so you don't get done.

0:29:110:29:13

Meet Rachel Broad and her partner, Ian.

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They live in Essex and have a large family and several grandchildren.

0:29:210:29:25

For years, the couple have wanted to do up their house, but money has been tight

0:29:290:29:33

and Rachel suffers from a debilitating muscle weakness

0:29:330:29:36

which means she's on disability benefits.

0:29:360:29:38

Two years ago, though, Ian was made redundant

0:29:380:29:42

and with his redundancy package,

0:29:420:29:43

the couple decided to do major work to their kitchen and central heating system.

0:29:430:29:48

As luck would have it, a local building firm

0:29:490:29:51

had recently put a flyer through the door offering their services.

0:29:510:29:55

A flyer comes through the letterbox advertising a local firm.

0:29:560:30:01

They said they were Gas Safe. We had them do the small toilet

0:30:010:30:04

and then we were intending to do the rest of the house up and we decided to use them to do it.

0:30:040:30:09

One of the key things the company had said on their flyer

0:30:090:30:12

was that they were Gas Safe registered.

0:30:120:30:13

He said he could do the job and we thought he was Gas Safe.

0:30:130:30:20

He said he could do the gas and electrics, and all of it.

0:30:200:30:24

The fact he was Gas Safe registered was particularly important.

0:30:240:30:30

Any consumer that's having gas work carried out

0:30:300:30:32

what you must always do before you let the engineer into your home

0:30:320:30:35

is check their Gas Safe ID card.

0:30:350:30:38

Gas Safe register is the register of all engineers across the country

0:30:380:30:42

who are qualified to work safely and legally in domestic homes as well as businesses.

0:30:420:30:47

Unfortunately, Ian and Rachel didn't carry out all the necessary checks

0:30:480:30:53

and trusted the company.

0:30:530:30:55

They began work and suggested the boiler be moved upstairs.

0:30:550:30:58

So we put it in my grandson's bedroom.

0:30:580:31:01

That took him about three months, I think, to do the boiler.

0:31:010:31:06

Three months to fit a boiler?!

0:31:060:31:08

That wouldn't fill me with confidence.

0:31:080:31:10

And when they put it on, after about half an hour, it would cut out.

0:31:100:31:14

By the winter, we were running the hot water

0:31:140:31:18

off of the...um, immersion heater.

0:31:180:31:23

So before if it was a bit chilly, we didn't have any heating.

0:31:230:31:28

So what qualifications does a tradesman working with gas require?

0:31:280:31:33

Every Gas Safe registered engineer

0:31:330:31:35

would always have qualifications that last for five years.

0:31:350:31:38

It's called the National Accredited Certification Scheme.

0:31:380:31:42

ACS, for short.

0:31:420:31:43

On all the range of gas appliances -

0:31:510:31:53

boilers, fires, cookers, that they work on.

0:31:530:31:56

Sadly, in our case, the builder never came back to the property,

0:31:560:31:59

leaving Ian and Rachel living in a building site.

0:31:590:32:02

They phoned Trading Standards to see if they could help.

0:32:020:32:05

We also got in touch with Citizens' Advice Bureau

0:32:080:32:12

and they both said, more or less,

0:32:120:32:15

to try for three other quotes

0:32:150:32:20

to see about getting the work finished off.

0:32:200:32:23

But to also continue chasing the original dodgy builder

0:32:230:32:27

to see if they'd come and clear up the mess

0:32:270:32:28

and, oh boy, was it a mess!

0:32:280:32:31

The new builder came round and I showed him the work we needed to finish.

0:32:320:32:36

He said he wanted to look at the boiler upstairs.

0:32:360:32:39

As soon as he saw it, he condemned it.

0:32:390:32:42

Then he came downstairs and looked at the cooker.

0:32:420:32:44

He condemned that as well cos it wasn't fastened to the pipework,

0:32:440:32:48

it wasn't fastened to the wall

0:32:480:32:50

and the cabling connecting the appliance to the power source

0:32:500:32:55

wasn't of a strong enough cable either.

0:32:550:32:58

Yeah, but the pipe going to the cooker was dangerous, wasn't it?

0:32:580:33:03

-He hadn't done that properly.

-He hadn't connected the pipe to the cooker properly.

0:33:030:33:07

But that wasn't the worst of it.

0:33:070:33:08

The family's lives had been in mortal danger.

0:33:080:33:11

This is where the boiler was moved to from downstairs.

0:33:130:33:16

The outlet there was the one that was not safe

0:33:160:33:21

cos the fumes were going to come into the bedroom.

0:33:210:33:24

If there'd been anyone in there when the boiler was running,

0:33:240:33:27

it could have killed them.

0:33:270:33:28

It sounds horrific. What are the signs to look out for

0:33:290:33:33

of carbon monoxide poisoning?

0:33:330:33:35

First, there's headaches.

0:33:350:33:37

Then it leads to dizziness and nausea,

0:33:370:33:40

which sometimes people confuse with flu-like symptoms.

0:33:400:33:43

Then it moves to breathlessness

0:33:430:33:46

and in the fifth stage, unfortunately, you'd collapse

0:33:460:33:49

and lose consciousness

0:33:490:33:51

when it's extreme.

0:33:510:33:53

Ian and Rachel have had to take out a loan for the gas appliances to be made safe.

0:33:550:34:00

They also took the original engineer to court

0:34:000:34:03

and he was instructed to pay £5,400 in compensation.

0:34:030:34:07

But they're still waiting on this money.

0:34:070:34:10

The total amount of money that was lost

0:34:100:34:13

was all my redundancy package.

0:34:130:34:15

Ian and Rachel have learned a lesson the hard way.

0:34:150:34:18

In future, if we have another builder round,

0:34:190:34:22

we'll make sure we check his credentials

0:34:220:34:24

and make sure he's registered as he says he is.

0:34:240:34:27

'First-time buyers John and Hannah moved into their home

0:34:320:34:35

'only to discover it was literally crumbling around them with damp and dry rot.

0:34:350:34:40

'They saved for years to buy the house

0:34:400:34:42

and don't have the money to pay for all the work necessary

0:34:420:34:45

it keep the house from falling down.

0:34:450:34:48

I think the general feel about the house now is we wish we'd never bought it.

0:34:480:34:53

-Yeah, it's hard.

-It's depressing.

0:34:540:34:57

They had a homebuyers survey done by the company Metropolis Surveyors

0:34:580:35:01

who picked up no evidence of damp.

0:35:010:35:04

But I've had independent reports that suggest they should have spotted it.

0:35:040:35:08

We've sent the independent report to the Ombudsman Services Property.

0:35:100:35:14

And, of course, I've also sent a copy to Metropolis.

0:35:140:35:17

I've been chasing the company to find out why their surveyor

0:35:170:35:21

apparently failed to spot the damp.

0:35:210:35:23

They told me it's not their policy to discuss ongoing cases.

0:35:230:35:27

It's time to give Metropolis another call.

0:35:270:35:30

I really need to chase this up.

0:35:300:35:32

So far, I'm not getting the answers I want.

0:35:320:35:34

'I've been trying to speak to their commercial director Geoff

0:35:340:35:40

'but this time I'm put through to the compliance director, Kirsty.'

0:35:400:35:43

'Hi, Dom, it's Kirsty speaking. Can I help?

0:35:430:35:46

Hello, Kirsty. Thanks for taking the call.

0:35:460:35:48

I've been having trouble getting through to Geoff.

0:35:480:35:51

-'He's a very busy man.'

-I gathered that!

0:35:510:35:53

We were told by Geoff that we need to speak to the ombudsman.

0:35:530:35:57

We have contacted the ombudsman.

0:35:570:35:59

They're looking at it at the moment.

0:35:590:36:01

We're waiting to hear what their outcome is.

0:36:010:36:03

But we've also spoken to RICS

0:36:030:36:05

and a chartered surveyor called Barry Cross.

0:36:050:36:08

I bring Kirsty up to speed at events at our end

0:36:080:36:12

and give her some queries from our surveyor.

0:36:120:36:14

All of which will hopefully help our case with the ombudsman.

0:36:140:36:18

Chiefly, did their surveyor miss the damp, and if so, why?

0:36:180:36:22

Great. I'll get that to you in an email this afternoon, Kirsty.

0:36:220:36:26

Shall I send it to your attention?

0:36:260:36:28

'If you can send it to me and Geoff, that would be great.

0:36:280:36:31

'Then we make sure we both get it.'

0:36:310:36:32

Okey-doke. Nice talking to you. Bye.

0:36:320:36:35

As requested, I send the email straight off to Kirsty.

0:36:360:36:40

A few days later, I get another email from commercial director Geoff

0:36:400:36:44

restating that they do not discuss ongoing cases

0:36:440:36:47

and telling me they will be providing no further comment

0:36:470:36:49

whilst the case is with the ombudsman.

0:36:490:36:53

However, we've been in touch with the Ombudsman Services Property

0:36:540:36:58

to find out the latest on the case.

0:36:580:37:00

It's time for me to catch up with John and Hannah for an update.

0:37:000:37:03

Normally, when I come back to meet people for the second time,

0:37:050:37:08

it's because I have answers for them.

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Resolution.

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However, this time, it's a different case.

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'As the Ombudsman's case is still ongoing,

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'I can't give John and Hannah any definite answers today.

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But what I can give them is a sense of hope.

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-Good to see you both again.

-And you.

-How do you think I've got on?

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-No idea.

-We're desperate to find out.

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In an ideal world, how would you hope I got on?

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Just anywhere. We've been going on so long and haven't got any further forward.

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-Yes.

-Any steps forward would be great to find out.

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I know where you're coming from. You said you haven't got any money to sort out the problem.

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But the problem is a lot bigger than you realised.

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Obviously, you weren't getting anywhere with Metropolis Surveyors.

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As you know, we sent round an independent surveyor.

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He had a look round and I've got a letter with some of his findings.

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"There is clear evidence of dampness

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"which would have been there and ongoing for a long time."

0:38:050:38:08

-You suspected that, didn't you?

-Yeah.

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That confirms it. He goes on about every room in here.

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The damp in here is not something that's happened recently.

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So, no two ways about it,

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Metropolis, the surveyor they sent round, should have spotted it.

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Now, I've tried to deal with Metropolis.

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I've been trying to email, call and speak to them.

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Everything had to be in writing and sent over to them.

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I was banging my head against the proverbial wall.

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What I then decided to do was push things as far as you can.

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Without going to court. And that's with the ombudsman.

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But, and there's always a but,

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this is the problem with going to the ombudsman.

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They are very, very good. I've used them on numerous occasions.

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They do what they're meant to do and do a very thorough job.

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The problem is, it takes time.

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It can take up to eight weeks for this to be resolved.

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Metropolis have dug their heels in and said, "We will abide by what the ombudsman says we have to do.

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"But we won't make any comments now because it's not in our interests to do so

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"while this is ongoing and this investigation is happening."

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I've been on the phone to the ombudsman this morning to get an update on what's happening.

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He said he should have some findings for you

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and his conclusion on the situation in two to three weeks' time.

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If they rule in your favour, which I suspect is going to happen,

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I think it's highly unlikely they can't,

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so that's the news.

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Not as good as I would have liked to have been delivering to you,

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but we are a huge leap forward.

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How do you feel about that news?

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I don't know. I'm speechless.

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I don't know what to say.

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All we wanted was our house to be a house.

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We didn't want to sue people or get money in the bank or anything,

0:39:560:40:01

-we just wanted to live in our house and it be a home.

-Yeah.

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And we're just hopeful that that's what's going to happen.

0:40:060:40:09

Yeah.

0:40:090:40:10

I can't promise it, but I feel very confident.

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How do you feel, Hannah?

0:40:140:40:17

Woosh. It's just nice to have something positive to hang on to, for once.

0:40:170:40:23

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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Let's hope in the very near future, your house will become your home.

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And you'll want to live here and be happy and it'll all be sorted out.

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That's for us, definitely.

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There's light at the end of the tunnel. You didn't have that before.

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We've never had a chink of light, to be honest, and now...

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And it's getting brighter.

0:40:430:40:44

-In the meantime, you take care.

-Thank you very much.

0:40:440:40:47

See you later, guys.

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'It's clear that John and Hannah are desperate to put this whole saga behind them

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so that they can get on with their lives.

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They've had a rough year and I could see the relief on their faces

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when I said another three weeks and all your problems might be a thing of the past.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed for them.

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My fingers don't have to stay crossed for long.

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Less than three weeks later,

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the Ombudsman Services Property deliver their findings.

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Metropolis Surveyors have told John and Hannah

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that their surveyor had been unable to test the walls for damp

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as there was furniture in the way.

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The ombudsman explains that surveyors are not expected to move furniture.

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Although any obstructions should be noted down.

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However, the homebuyer's report stated that no damp had been noted

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and Metropolis notes did not mention anything about furniture being in the way

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or, indeed, any other limitations.

0:41:450:41:47

For this reason, the ombudsman has found in favour of John and Hannah,

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which is just the news they were hoping for.

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The exact amount Metropolis will have to pay John and Hannah

0:41:540:41:57

will be based on the difference between the value of the property now

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and the purchase price.

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Discussions are ongoing.

0:42:020:42:04

We asked Metropolis to comment on the ombudsman's findings and they said,

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For John and Hannah, it means there is an end in sight

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and Metropolis will have to help pay for repairs.

0:42:420:42:45

The thought of living in a house with no damp is what we've been striving for the whole time.

0:42:460:42:52

It's just going to be... It's going to be a home.

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That's what we've wanted all along.

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Not anything but ever to have our house be a home

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and be able to make it our own.

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