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'My name is Dominic Littlewood,

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'and I'm passionate about taking on your consumer battles.

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'In fact, taking companies to task has become my goal in life.'

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Could you let her know that I tried to call?

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Cos she's probably quite keen to speak to me, actually.

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'Big or small, no company is excused from my quest to ensure that

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'you get what you're entitled to.'

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I'm getting the impression you don't want to actually answer

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any questions now, is that correct?

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'Whether you've not got what you paid for...'

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It judders, hesitates, as you're changing from first to second gear.

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'Or getting to the bottom of what to do

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'if it turns out a product isn't right for you.'

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The whole experience is rather off-putting

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and, to my way of thinking, not any use at all.

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'Whatever the issues, I'm here to help.'

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'Today, home is meant to be our safe haven, but I help a couple

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'whose property dreams have

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'turned into a living nightmare.'

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This is our first house together.

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We don't want this. Do we?

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No, we don't.

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Nobody would want this. Nobody would want this.

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Also, what you can do when you're let down by the very company

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you're paying to protect you.

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I was just looking for something that was no hassle.

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Not overly expensive and, if the worst were to happen,

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it would get sorted out pretty quickly.

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And I give you the lowdown on what some of those tricky

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Ts&Cs actually mean.

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I think that "reasonable" could be reasonable to one person

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and completely unreasonable to another person.

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I'm taking on your consumer problems to make

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sure you don't get done.

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After years of waiting, you finally find your dream home

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and you're looking forward to many happy times there.

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But what happens when those dreams get washed down the drain?

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Lisa Murch and her fiance Kenny Thompson from Essex know

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exactly what this is like after repeated

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flooding of their home from a sewage drain.

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It was like something in your worst nightmare.

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The place was covered in faeces and dirty water.

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Urine...

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Unimaginable. Horrible.

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But when they complained to their water company,

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they didn't get the help they hoped for.

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There was nothing we could do.

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All we could do was watch water and sewage coming into your house.

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This definitely isn't the home sweet home that Lisa and Kenny

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thought they'd bought when they moved in nearly two years ago.

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We knew we wanted to buy a nice house together.

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We had an idea of what sort of house we wanted.

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Nice house, nice garden, two or three bedrooms,

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just something that we can live in and enjoy living in.

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After months and months of looking, they finally found what

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they thought was their perfect home in Laindon, Essex.

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It was exciting to find this house.

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Luckily, me and Kenny have got the same vision

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and we wanted the same things out of the house.

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It's got a nice big driveway, we can have a double garage.

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We've got a lovely garden, can have people round.

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We can have friends round, we can entertain, which neither of us

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had been able to do before.

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That's what we wanted out of our house, didn't we? Yeah.

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We fell in love with this place.

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We absolutely fell in love with it.

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And, here we are.

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-Here we are.

-Here we are.

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Lisa and Kenny moved in in April 2012,

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but just a few months later,

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they were woken in the early hours by heavy rain.

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I came down into the kitchen.

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I looked out the window,

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saw there was lots of water on the patio. So I came in here.

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Stupidly, I opened up the back door, to find that there was lots

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of water out in the garden.

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It was all coming in over the step.

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Lots of water and sewage water all gushing through in here.

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It was all coming up the side of the fridge and the freezer

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and the washing machine.

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We had lots of towels down in the kitchen, but the water still got in.

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We had raw sewage flooding through here, as well.

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When they took a look in the garden,

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it was clear where the waste was coming from.

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We came out into this area, which was totally covered in faeces.

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Tissues, just...

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unimaginable.

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Everywhere. All over the patio.

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And it was all coming from this sink waste gully.

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The couple spared no time trying to get the problem sorted.

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Our first phone call was to Anglian Water,

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which, you know, we pay our money to them

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and they are the people who should come and help us.

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We called them and they said we were in a waiting list,

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that they would have somebody with us as soon as possible.

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In the meantime, raw sewage was flowing straight through our house.

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Someone did come out later in the day that day,

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but by the time they had come out, all the water had subsided

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and there was nothing for them to see.

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They gave us a report number and they went away and that was it.

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We didn't hear any more from them.

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They decided not to claim on their insurance

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and clear the mess up themselves,

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as they didn't want their insurance premiums to be affected.

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But this wasn't a one-off and, in November,

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exactly the same thing happened again.

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Anglian Water came out and flushed the drains,

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thinking that the floods were due to blockages in the pipes

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caused by deposits of fats, oils and grease.

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But, a few weeks later came flood number three.

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I got up on Christmas morning, went and had a cup of tea

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and called Kenny again and said,

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"We're flooding again. Happy Christmas."

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So, instead of opening presents,

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we were sifting out all the sewage again on Christmas morning.

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-So, that put all our Christmas Day plans back, didn't it?

-Certainly did.

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Anglian Water came out and, yet again, they flushed the pipes.

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And, for seven months, Lisa and Kenny had a flood-free existence.

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The August flood, that was our last flooding we had.

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It was probably the worst flooding we had,

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cos it was terrible weather.

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It was coming in through our patio door.

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We had just literally had our oak wood floor

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all finished and varnished.

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That was underwater.

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The bottom of our kitchen cupboards were ruined that time.

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It all came into the extension.

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It was quite deep, it was over my ankles.

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We had to put a claim in on our home insurance,

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because it was quite a lot of damage, mainly to the floor.

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For the first time, Lisa and Kenny claimed on their insurance.

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They had to pay their £100 excess,

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but the cost of the flooding didn't end there.

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I have spoken to the home insurance company,

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and they said that if we don't get the problem with the drains

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solved, they won't be able to insure us again, because they don't

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cover flooding on houses and we would have to go to a specialist company.

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I phoned up the specialist company

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and it's looking like our renewal will probably go up by nearly double,

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maybe triple what we had to pay last time, because of the flooding.

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It's not only an unacceptable situation,

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but it's now turning into a costly one, too.

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Anglian Water have refunded the couple's annual sewerage

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charges after the floods in 2012 and 2013.

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This totalled a refund of £397.36.

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But the couple still aren't happy.

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We don't want Anglian Water to keep paying us money.

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After two floods, they've sent us a cheque in the post

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for £100 here and £100 there.

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I've told them on many occasions, we don't want compensation

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and we don't want money.

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What we want is for someone to come out and fix the problem.

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We want them to fix the drains and stop us from being flooded again.

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I just cannot explain how angry, how frustrated, you know...

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Of course, you want to blame everybody,

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but it was, like...

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Anglian Water, why are you letting this happen to us?

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Lisa and Kenny feel under constant threat and,

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with the Great British weather what it is,

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they're worried these sewers are going to flood again soon.

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So I need to be getting my finger out on this one.

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Anglian Water supplies water and environmental services to more than

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six million domestic and business customers in the East of England.

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They are the largest water and water recycling company

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by geographic area and they have

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over 112,000 kilometres of water and sewage pipes.

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And, with over 4,000 people working for them,

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I'm hoping someone will help us.

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'My team have made contact with Anglian Water and we've sent them

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'a list of questions.

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'Hopefully, we'll hear back from them soon.'

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In 2012, there were two million mobile phone thefts.

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That's one every 24 seconds.

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I was very good at maths at school.

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But, you'd think, with that many thefts, insurance companies would be

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well versed on how to deal with a claim quickly and efficiently.

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But one victim's insurance company's tone left him

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feeling a little bit more than disconnected.

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PHONES RING

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Back in autumn 2012, Zeke Iddon, a writer and online reviewer,

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treated himself to a brand spanking new smartphone.

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The phone I got was an iPhone 4.

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I'm self-employed, so having a phone is really important to me.

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And I use it all the time.

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Using his phone for both business and pleasure,

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Zeke did what millions of us do

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and started looking into protection for these expensive bits of kit.

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When it came to insurance,

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I was just looking for something that was no hassle,

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not overly expensive and, if the worst were to happen, it would get

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sorted out pretty quickly and I'd get my phone back without any hassle.

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12 million mobile phone users

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in the UK choose, like Zeke,

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to take out insurance on their phone.

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So it's no wonder it's a market worth £620 million.

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The massive growth in the industry is partly due to smartphones

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and just how much they cost to replace.

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With that in mind, one company seemed to promise Zeke

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exactly what he was looking for.

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I first encountered Protect Your Bubble,

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I think it was through TV adverts.

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They were really ramping up at the time.

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'When Squeak ruined his laptop,

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'he didn't have to splash out for a new one.

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'Thanks to protectyourbubble.com, when Squeak lost his iPod,

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'he wasn't downbeat for long.'

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They caught me in a sweet spot,

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because I was looking for insurance, they were there.

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Everything seemed nice and cosy, so I just went with those guys.

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Protect Your Bubble is an insurance company that prides

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itself on making insurance simple to understand and to buy.

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Launched in 2008, they have

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over three quarters of a million customers in the UK and abroad.

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They specialise on insurance for gadgets,

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just like Zeke's smartphone.

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Actually getting the cover through Protect Your Bubble

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was very, very simple -

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I think I did it in a two minute phone call -

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they were very courteous and professional on the phone.

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I was satisfied at that point.

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But Zeke's bubble was about to burst.

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About six months after taking out the insurance cover

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I was at a concert in London.

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I went to take a photo of the band,

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put my hand into my pocket and, to my horror, it was not there.

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Zeke's mobile had been pickpocketed from him

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and he wasn't the only one.

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Ten other people at the concert that night had also lost their phones.

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The very next morning, I got straight on the phone to the police

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and registered the crime.

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I also spoke to my service provider and got the phone blocked.

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And then, of course, spoke to Protect Your Bubble.

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Firstly, I was on hold for a good half an hour.

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And then, Protect Your Bubble said that it was a loss

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and not a theft, because it hadn't been forcibly taken from me.

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'When Squeak had his iPhone stolen,

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'he knew it could be replaced within 48 hours.'

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Although Zeke had been pickpocketed just like Squeak,

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Protect Your Bubble told him that, under their terms and conditions,

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he would have to claim for a loss and fork out a £75 excess charge -

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£25 more than if it had been classed as theft.

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After they told me that it was a loss

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and therefore would have a higher excess payment, I just went with it.

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I really needed the phone back there and then, so I accepted it

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and they sent through the loss form,

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which I filled out and sent back.

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And that's when the waiting game began.

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PHONES RING

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Despite having sent back the claim form

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and the crime reference number,

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Zeke heard nothing for a week.

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So I did what anyone would do and I tried to call them.

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And he did just that, on an old spare low-tech phone.

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I quickly realised that there was no way to contact Protect Your Bubble

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without going through a premium rate number, which is infuriating,

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given that I was the one having to chase them in the first place.

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But Zeke eventually got through.

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At the end of that call, they told me

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that I needed to wait for a three-way call,

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that they would conduct between myself and the service provider

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to find out from the service provider whether I'd blocked the phone.

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They didn't give me any idea of when this three-way call would happen,

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so I hung up and patiently waited.

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Maybe Protect Your Bubble are just being thorough.

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You know, crossing their T's and dotting the I's.

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Then I got an e-mail which confused and angered me.

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They said that they were waiting for a crime reference number

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on the loss claim.

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Right, now things were getting strange.

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Number one - why do Protect Your Bubble

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need a three-way call to confirm he's blocked his own phone?

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Number two - Zeke had already sent a crime reference number.

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And number three - why would the insurers need it when they had

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considered his phone going walkies a "loss" and not a theft?

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At this point, I am getting really furious at the company.

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Weeks have passed, I have to chase them to move

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the process along every step of the way and I'm at the end of my tether.

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Three weeks had passed since the original "loss" of his phone

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and Zeke's still smartphone-less.

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So, not quite the 48 hours

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they suggested an advert.

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Zeke wrote to the company, telling them of his intentions

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if they didn't call him back.

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There is one particular website that I write regularly for

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and I decided to use my standing there to write about

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Protect Your Bubble and chronicle the journey I'd had with them.

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And, guess what? They never called him back,

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so Zeke got writing on his blog.

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As soon as it went up, I was getting e-mails

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and comments from people who had exactly the same story as me.

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Protect Your Bubble immediately e-mailed Zeke and then

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a manager contacted him, saying they would personally handle his claim.

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A few days later, the post came.

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When they finally sent me a phone,

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it was a replacement iPhone 4, refurbished, but it was fine.

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I didn't care at that point.

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I got it out of the box

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and I was thrilled that that nightmare was finally over.

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And it didn't work.

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I was back to square one.

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I sent the phone back, I didn't have a phone and they were taking

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a long time to rearrange a replacement to the replacement.

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And, being at the end of my tether,

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I just e-mailed them and said,

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"Look, I'm going out to buy a phone out of my own pocket.

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"You guys can pay me back." And that's what I did.

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And, would you Adam and Eve it? Protect Your Bubble agreed.

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They refunded Zeke the full amount for the phone he bought.

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However, despite winning in the end, Zeke has been left less than happy.

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Overall, based on my experiences with Protect Your Bubble,

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quite frankly, I am disgusted at how badly they treat people.

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Not just myself, but the many customers I've spoken to.

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They don't want to know.

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They're very quick to take your money

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and not very keen to give it back when you do have a legitimate claim.

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'I wrote to Protect Your Bubble about Zeke's experiences in 2011

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'and they told me that...'

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They...

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But it seems Zeke may have effected a result

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for more than just him.

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They go on to say that, since his case...

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Good work, Protect Your Bubble,

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and very good work, Zeke.

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If I had to give advice to anyone in a similar sticking point

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with their insurer, I would recommend to keep records of absolutely

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every communication you have with them.

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Keep going, as well.

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Perseverance with a lot of these companies is a big thing.

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And, also, it is important to mention, make sure you're right.

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Spot-on, Zeke. That does tend to help.

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Many people just accept it when things don't go their way.

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It shows that if you really, really feel you've been wronged,

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it's worth a fight to put it right.

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Lisa and Kenny moved into their dream home only to find that

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every few months, they were being flooded by raw sewage.

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I took a video of when the water was coming into the extension

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and, you can see how deep it was there.

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That's just me wading through

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into the front of the house.

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The smell was absolutely awful.

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If you imagine just raw sewage.

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It was a damp smell, it was horrible.

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Just can't believe it happened, really.

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But not just once, it's happened four times.

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It's a murky situation that could happen to any one of us.

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But Lisa and Kenny knew exactly who to complain to -

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Anglian Water,

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their water and sewerage operator.

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Homeowners used to be responsible for their sewers

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and most people didn't even realise that until they had a problem

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and then they were presented with a costly bill.

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But in October 2011, that all changed

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and this is how it now works.

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Essentially, homeowners are responsible for the sewers

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up to the edge of the boundary of their property

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and beyond that, it's the water and sewage company's responsibility.

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So homeowners should be safe from any nasty surprises.

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Well, unless you're Lisa and Kenny, of course.

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It's a new house. It's our first house together.

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We're getting married, we don't want this.

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-Do we?

-No, we don't want it.

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Nobody would want this. Nobody would want this.

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'It's just over a week since I contacted Anglian Water

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'and they've sprung into action.

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'They've sent a team out to Lisa and Kenny's home

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'to carry out an investigation

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'and it's not long before they're back in touch with an update.'

0:18:570:19:02

They've said the couple's house is at a low point

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and when there's heavy rain, that's when they're seeing the flooding.

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Now, what they say they're going to do

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is bolt down a manhole cover and also fit an NRV,

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a non-return valve, and, hopefully, that will be the end of the problem.

0:19:120:19:17

That sounds like great news.

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A non-return valve should stop water flowing back up the pipes

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and into Lisa and Kenny's garden and home.

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If it works, that could be my job done already.

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But Kenny has some concerns.

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My take on it is that it's a quick, cheap fix.

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They are not addressing the bigger issue.

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Hear, hear, Kenny.

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I want to know why the sewers are flooding in the first place.

0:19:400:19:43

They've been cleaned out, so we know there aren't any blockages,

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but they are still overflowing.

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They may be fitting a non-return valve,

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which might stop the flooding at least from Kenny's,

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but will it surface somewhere else in the street?

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Or, in the neighbour's garden, perhaps?

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'And I've a few other questions for Anglian Water,

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'so I think it's time to get on the phone.'

0:20:020:20:05

PHONE RINGS

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Can I speak to Emma, please?

0:20:070:20:09

It's Dominic from Don't Get Done Get Dom.

0:20:090:20:12

'I get through to a very helpful lady in the press office,

0:20:120:20:15

'although it's not the same person I've been e-mailing.'

0:20:150:20:18

We've already had some correspondence to-ing and fro-ing

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with you guys at Anglian Water about a couple living in

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Laindon in Essex who've had some problems.

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Is that something you would be familiar with,

0:20:260:20:28

or is it Emma I need to speak to?

0:20:280:20:29

'Emma's not in, but I am able to leave a list of questions for her.'

0:20:290:20:34

Can you give us a reason why it took four floodings

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for something to actually take place?

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Why wasn't something done about it after the first flooding?

0:20:390:20:42

'I'd also like to know who is actually responsible

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'for sorting out the damage that the couple were left with.'

0:20:450:20:48

Are homeowners expected to use their own insurance company

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in a situation like this, or should they be able to

0:20:510:20:53

contact Anglian Water, you guys investigate,

0:20:530:20:55

sort everything out with as little inconvenience to the homeowners

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and inexpensive as possible?

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And, the reason I ask that is,

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because if it's down to the homeowners

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to use their own insurance company to rectify any

0:21:040:21:07

damage that might have been done,

0:21:070:21:09

where do homeowners stand as far as their excess being increased

0:21:090:21:11

or insurance companies actually refusing to insure them in future?

0:21:110:21:16

'That's something I want Anglian Water to think about,

0:21:160:21:19

'so I give them a couple of days to get back to me.'

0:21:190:21:21

OK, if you can tell Emma, I'll give her a call, Tuesday or Wednesday,

0:21:210:21:25

and so if she can have those answers for me,

0:21:250:21:27

that would be ever so helpful. Thanks very much. Bye-bye.

0:21:270:21:30

Said I'll give her a ring next week,

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so hopefully she's had time to get me an answer.

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But, unfortunately, we have to make contact with

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Anglian Water the very next day.

0:21:370:21:39

Kenny had his reservations about the NRV

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and if and where the sewage could possibly resurface.

0:21:410:21:45

And it didn't take long to find out.

0:21:450:21:47

Kenny and Lisa woke this morning to find yet more

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sewage in the garden.

0:21:500:21:52

Hiya. We've been flooded again this morning at our property,

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for the fifth time

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in under two years.

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But we haven't been flooded with rainwater,

0:22:040:22:07

we've been flooded with raw sewage.

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It's exactly what they hoped wouldn't happen.

0:22:100:22:13

OK, thank you very much. Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:22:130:22:15

Anglian Water are going to send out a team to investigate why

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the couple have flooded again.

0:22:210:22:24

'And I've been doing some of my own research.'

0:22:240:22:27

I want to find out for myself what Anglian Water could

0:22:270:22:30

and, reportedly, should be doing about this situation.

0:22:300:22:33

Fortunately, there's an organisation out there

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set up to help people in their hour of need,

0:22:360:22:39

called the CCW, the Consumer Council for Water.

0:22:390:22:42

'And, one of their managers,

0:22:420:22:44

'Steve Grebby, has kindly agreed to meet with me.'

0:22:440:22:47

Obviously, you know about Lisa and Kenny's issue.

0:22:470:22:50

What do you think of that?

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Sewer flooding is a horrendous issue.

0:22:510:22:54

For sewage to come back up a pipe

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and into somebody's living room is not what anybody wants.

0:22:550:22:59

And it's one of the worst things that can happen to

0:22:590:23:01

a water and sewerage customer.

0:23:010:23:03

'I've explained to Steve that Anglian Water have fitted an NRV

0:23:030:23:06

'and bolted down a manhole cover,

0:23:060:23:08

'but I want to find out if the NRV

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'was the right piece of kit for the job.'

0:23:110:23:13

Surely, if there's a water problem there

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and you put in one of these NRV valves,

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when it stops, at this section,

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you'll be OK, but at that section,

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if there's heavy rain, it's just going to fill up.

0:23:210:23:24

It is going to fill up.

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And it can come out in other places.

0:23:260:23:28

'And that's exactly what seems to have happened to Lisa and Kenny.'

0:23:280:23:31

-Is it a final solution?

-It's not a final solution.

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It won't solve the problem,

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because the problem is with the main sewer in some way, shape or form.

0:23:350:23:38

Anglian Water need to investigate what the problem is with

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the sewer and to take actions beyond just fitting a valve

0:23:420:23:46

and bolting down the cover.

0:23:460:23:47

What else could Anglian Water be doing

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to try and alleviate this problem?

0:23:490:23:50

They can also put sensors in the sewer.

0:23:500:23:52

These sensors tell the water company when there's a problem with

0:23:520:23:55

the sewer, when it's filling up, so they have the opportunity to

0:23:550:23:58

then go out and resolve the problem

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before it affects customers' properties.

0:24:000:24:02

So, ideally, Anglian Water need to put in sensors and,

0:24:020:24:05

if those sensors go off, they should be there PDQ,

0:24:050:24:07

Pretty damn quick, to try and sort them out.

0:24:070:24:09

And, initially, they should be trying to sort out whatever

0:24:090:24:12

the problems are further back down the line.

0:24:120:24:15

-Absolutely.

-Brilliant, just what I wanted to hear.

0:24:150:24:17

-Steve, thanks ever so much for your time.

-Very welcome.

0:24:170:24:20

'Steve's cleared up a lot for me, but I'm starting to wonder just

0:24:200:24:23

'how long flooding has been an issue in Lisa and Kenny's Street.'

0:24:230:24:27

When the couple bought the house, it had no history of flooding,

0:24:270:24:31

so they had no reason to think there would be any risk.

0:24:310:24:34

But it would be interesting to know if any of their neighbours

0:24:340:24:38

have ever experienced any problems with contents of the sewers

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finding its way into their homes or gardens.

0:24:410:24:44

Hello.

0:24:440:24:46

We've had a flooding issue next door. But it's sewage.

0:24:460:24:50

Have you had any flooding problems?

0:24:500:24:54

Lots of flooding problems?

0:24:540:24:56

It turns out their neighbour

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has been the victim of flooding for over 40 years.

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Ah! That's a lot of problems.

0:25:000:25:03

The residents have a theory that the flooding is

0:25:040:25:06

caused by problems in the main pipe.

0:25:060:25:08

And it's not the first time that Lisa and Kenny have heard

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there might be something going on down in the sewer.

0:25:120:25:14

My neighbour's son has informed us that he

0:25:140:25:17

actually witnessed, many years ago,

0:25:170:25:19

a CCTV camera survey of the main drain

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and there's a big dip.

0:25:240:25:26

He is convinced that, if it's got a dip in it, well,

0:25:260:25:29

it ain't going to work properly.

0:25:290:25:30

So, to cure the problem, once and for all,

0:25:300:25:34

if they could just replace that section of drain.

0:25:340:25:37

We do appreciate it would be huge expense,

0:25:370:25:39

probably more than what our house is worth,

0:25:390:25:42

but it would mean that we would never get flooded again.

0:25:420:25:46

Interesting.

0:25:460:25:48

The residents believe that the problem is with the pipes

0:25:480:25:50

in King Edward Road, the main road leading to the couple's terrace.

0:25:500:25:54

I need to find out if there is a problem with this pipe

0:25:540:25:57

and if that's been causing the flooding.

0:25:570:25:59

I also want to find out what Anglian Water is planning on doing,

0:25:590:26:03

as the NRV hasn't stopped the sewage finding its way to the surface.

0:26:030:26:08

Time to call Emma, the media relations manager at Anglian Water.

0:26:080:26:11

'Press office, Emma speaking.'

0:26:110:26:13

Emma, good afternoon. It's Dominic Littlewood at the BBC.

0:26:130:26:16

'Hi, Dom. How are you?'

0:26:160:26:17

Not bad, thanks, Emma. Looking forward to a long weekend.

0:26:170:26:20

Pleasantries over, it's now time to get to work

0:26:200:26:22

and see what Emma has to say.

0:26:220:26:24

Thing is, it's not an occasional problem,

0:26:240:26:26

though, Emma, it's a regular problem.

0:26:260:26:28

So, the question is, really, what are Anglian going to do

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to stop it and eliminate it?

0:26:310:26:32

I know you said you'd put in this NRV, this non-return valve.

0:26:320:26:36

We've had a chat with the CCW

0:26:360:26:38

and the CCW said to us that that's only a temporary solution.

0:26:380:26:42

It's only part of a resolution.

0:26:420:26:45

If there's a drainage problem there, it needs sorting out properly,

0:26:450:26:48

not so that every time there's heavy rain,

0:26:480:26:51

these guys are getting raw sewage coming out.

0:26:510:26:53

This problem needs to be sorted out once and for all, really.

0:26:530:26:56

It's been ongoing for a long, long time.

0:26:560:26:58

'I've been looking at Miss Murch's inquiry.

0:26:580:27:00

'We're only talking that these issues occur when there's heavy rain

0:27:000:27:04

'and lots of surface water getting into the system.

0:27:040:27:06

'And that's why we need to look at that.

0:27:060:27:09

'So yes, the NRV's been put on,

0:27:090:27:10

'we're looking at what else is impacting the customer in that area.

0:27:100:27:15

'So we all are acutely aware

0:27:150:27:17

'and want to resolve it for the customer as quickly as possible.

0:27:170:27:20

'As I say, we're just trying to work through the problem

0:27:200:27:24

'and rule out what it is that could be causing this.'

0:27:240:27:26

'What about the residents' theory

0:27:270:27:29

'that there is a dip in the main sewer pipe?'

0:27:290:27:32

Are you aware of an issue,

0:27:320:27:35

a problem, in King Edward Road,

0:27:350:27:37

around the corner from them?

0:27:370:27:39

'Not to my knowledge.'

0:27:390:27:40

Apparently, there's some sort of dip/kink, bend, whatever -

0:27:400:27:45

I don't know exactly what you'd call it -

0:27:450:27:47

with the sewage system in that road

0:27:470:27:50

and there's a lot of people round there now starting to believe

0:27:500:27:53

this is where the problem is emanating from.

0:27:530:27:55

'Emma tells me that they

0:27:550:27:57

'have recently sent cameras down into the sewers in the area near to

0:27:570:28:01

'Lisa and Kenny's home, but I want her to be more specific.'

0:28:010:28:05

The CCTV investigation, Emma, have you done that in King Edward Road?

0:28:050:28:09

'We've definitely done it down King Edward Road.'

0:28:090:28:12

'I'd love to get my hands on that footage.'

0:28:120:28:14

'That's actually something I've requested today, Dom, actually.'

0:28:140:28:18

-Oh, brilliant.

-'You know, if we have got it captured,

0:28:180:28:21

'then that's something we can provide.'

0:28:210:28:24

'Great news. The neighbours think there is a dip,

0:28:240:28:26

'it turns out there is footage.

0:28:260:28:28

'I'd love to see it. It could be the answer to everything.'

0:28:280:28:31

Thanks, Emma. I'll speak to you next week. Bye-bye.

0:28:310:28:35

Got to say, that lady representing Anglian Water is very professional.

0:28:350:28:38

She's listening to everything, she's got all the right answers

0:28:380:28:40

and she did say they've actually had

0:28:400:28:42

a look down the drains as recently as this week.

0:28:420:28:45

So I've asked for a report and to see the footage.

0:28:450:28:47

And she said, "OK, let's chat next week."

0:28:470:28:50

Let's see how we get on.

0:28:500:28:52

I'm the sort of person who would find a book like this

0:28:570:29:00

a very interesting read.

0:29:000:29:02

It's the A to Z of your consumer rights,

0:29:020:29:05

including Ts&Cs, refunds and rejections.

0:29:050:29:08

But how many of you would actually read it?

0:29:080:29:10

The chances are, probably not many.

0:29:100:29:13

But, trust me, knowing a few of your consumer rights

0:29:130:29:16

can prove to be very valuable.

0:29:160:29:18

I don't know a lot about my consumer rights, really.

0:29:180:29:22

I don't know anything at all.

0:29:220:29:23

I know that I have every right to complain.

0:29:230:29:26

Which I do sometimes.

0:29:260:29:29

I don't think that many people know about consumer rights.

0:29:290:29:32

It's something you only find out about when you need to.

0:29:320:29:35

Today, we're talking about time,

0:29:350:29:37

because I get a lot of e-mails from people complaining that

0:29:370:29:40

things they've bought take too long to arrive or take too long

0:29:400:29:43

to fix when they go wrong.

0:29:430:29:45

And many of you have no idea what you should expect.

0:29:450:29:49

But don't worry, because I know just the person to give you the lowdown.

0:29:490:29:53

Because there are laws in place as to what

0:29:530:29:56

is a reasonable time frame for consumers

0:29:560:29:58

to expect a product to be delivered.

0:29:580:30:01

So, if you're taking time off work, it's very inconvenient.

0:30:010:30:04

So generally, when you're buying an item,

0:30:040:30:06

if the seller doesn't specify a time frame for delivery,

0:30:060:30:09

then the generally accepted time frame is within 30 days.

0:30:090:30:13

30 days? It's a long time to wait,

0:30:130:30:16

so make sure you read the small print about

0:30:160:30:18

when a company promises to deliver by.

0:30:180:30:21

I do believe that the company,

0:30:210:30:23

if they say it would be there in a certain amount of time,

0:30:230:30:25

then it should be. Cos that's what you're expecting as a customer.

0:30:250:30:28

But, as we know, as a customer, we don't always get what we want.

0:30:280:30:32

I've had an e-mail from Steve in Reading.

0:30:330:30:36

He ordered a brand spanking new TV,

0:30:360:30:39

but was not given a delivery time.

0:30:390:30:41

Four weeks down the line and he still hasn't got his telly.

0:30:410:30:44

And Steve is not a happy chappie.

0:30:440:30:47

So the responsibility sits with the retailer to specify what

0:30:470:30:51

is a reasonable time frame for delivering that item to you.

0:30:510:30:54

And, you know, most places these days will say

0:30:540:30:56

it will be delivered by a certain date.

0:30:560:30:59

And that's fine, because then you have a hard and fast date

0:30:590:31:01

in the diary that you can expect it to be delivered by.

0:31:010:31:05

So the law says it's a company's job to give you,

0:31:050:31:08

the paying customer, a delivery deadline. Fair enough.

0:31:080:31:11

But Steve is four weeks down the line and still no telly.

0:31:110:31:15

If the seller contacts you to say there's a very legitimate

0:31:150:31:19

reason why it can't be delivered in that time frame,

0:31:190:31:21

then you may accept that, but what you might want to do is say,

0:31:210:31:25

"It has to be delivered to me by this date,"

0:31:250:31:28

at some point in the future. And, you know,

0:31:280:31:30

"Time is of the essence. You need to hit that date."

0:31:300:31:32

If it hasn't turned up by your deadline, then you can cancel

0:31:320:31:36

the contract without any further recourse and expect a full refund.

0:31:360:31:39

There you go. You can cancel a product or a service

0:31:410:31:44

if a company have gone beyond the 30 day reasonable time frame

0:31:440:31:47

and a company hasn't met your last deadline.

0:31:470:31:50

It seems you guys know exactly how to complain.

0:31:500:31:53

If a company took too long, I would ring them up,

0:31:530:31:57

or I would e-mail them to ask what's happening

0:31:570:32:00

and where do we stand and when can we expect delivery.

0:32:000:32:04

If a company took too long delivering my product or a service,

0:32:040:32:07

I'd probably just cancel the delivery and go elsewhere.

0:32:070:32:10

Which is fine as long as you've written to the company

0:32:100:32:13

and laid down the law,

0:32:130:32:14

but the law can vary depending on what you're buying for delivery.

0:32:140:32:18

Take Janet, for example.

0:32:200:32:21

She's contacted me to say that her

0:32:210:32:23

and her husband ordered some bespoke bedroom furniture seven weeks ago.

0:32:230:32:27

Of course that's over the 30 day acceptable time frame.

0:32:270:32:30

However, there is an exception to this rule.

0:32:320:32:35

If you're buying something that has to be made,

0:32:350:32:37

for example a custom-built kitchen,

0:32:370:32:39

then the retailer is within their rights to say it'll

0:32:390:32:43

be eight weeks for delivery because there's a longer lead time there.

0:32:430:32:47

As long as you know that

0:32:470:32:48

when placing the order, then that time frame is reasonable.

0:32:480:32:52

The onus here is on the customer.

0:32:520:32:54

Check exactly what a company is saying its bespoke furniture

0:32:540:32:58

delivery deadline is.

0:32:580:33:00

If you don't think that's reasonable,

0:33:000:33:02

then shop around for another company.

0:33:020:33:05

So understanding the law about reasonable time frame would

0:33:050:33:08

definitely help you when it comes to reasoning with a company.

0:33:080:33:10

Lisa Murch and Kenny Thompson have spent the last two years

0:33:160:33:19

in constant fear that each time it rains their house could yet

0:33:190:33:23

again be flooded by raw sewage.

0:33:230:33:25

When the house was being flooded, I was just crying,

0:33:290:33:31

I was in tears, wasn't I?

0:33:310:33:34

It was...horrible, a really horrible experience.

0:33:340:33:36

It's OK, love.

0:33:380:33:39

We'll fix it.

0:33:390:33:41

And the threat of flooding is only part of the stress

0:33:410:33:44

the couple are under.

0:33:440:33:46

Apart from being worried we'll get flooded again,

0:33:460:33:49

we're also worried that we have to insure our property.

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And now we have to go to a specialist company,

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who deal with flooded houses

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and we know our premium is going to go up quite a lot,

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and we haven't got the money to spend out £1,000 for insurance.

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We've asked Anglian Water to provide us with a report of the findings

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from the investigation into the sewer,

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in the hope that a problem can be found and fixed once and for all.

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But there's another issue I'd like to address...

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Lisa and Kenny have been told they might face a higher insurance

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premium because of the flooding.

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They don't think the flooding is their fault. So where do they stand?

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And what if you're one of the thousands of people each year

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whose home is invaded by water?

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If you can prove that another party is responsible for damage

0:34:360:34:40

to your home, you may be able to claim on their insurance

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or from them directly.

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But you may have to prove they were negligent -

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which can be the tricky part.

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If the problem that caused the flooding has been fixed

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and measures have been put in place to stop any flooding happening again

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in the future, then the insurers should take this into account.

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I don't believe the couple should need specialist flooding

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insurance if Anglian Water can fix this problem once and for all.

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I have made that point to them.

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And it's very clear what Lisa and Kenny think.

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It's not our fault, we shouldn't have to pay out that sort of money.

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That kind of money could go towards our wedding for next year

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that we're saving up for, home improvements.

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We're not made of money. We're working class people.

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Ever since I contacted them, Anglian Water have been working to try

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to give the couple the peace of mind they so desperately crave

0:35:280:35:31

and there has been some further developments.

0:35:310:35:35

The company has visited the couple's home

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and done further investigations which revealed an old illegal

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foul waste pipe which should not have been there.

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It's not clear whether that was causing the problem,

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but it has been blocked off just in case.

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And there's more good news, so it's time for me to take a trip to Essex.

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Lisa and Kenny have had these problems now for almost two years.

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Think about it, if that was you, it would be driving you round the bend.

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Excuse the pun of course!

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Today I've got some news for them

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that'll hopefully put a smile back on their face.

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I waste no time in asking the couple to show me where

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the sewage was coming from.

0:36:130:36:15

Right, so this is the area where you witnessed most of the problems.

0:36:160:36:20

-Yes, it was.

-Raw sewage and...?

-Raw sewage.

-That's disgusting, isn't it?

0:36:200:36:25

Yes. I can actually show you where it was coming into the house.

0:36:250:36:28

Please do. Right, so I can see

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-there is an area there where some work's taken place.

-Yeah.

0:36:290:36:33

Is that because, it literally flooded higher than that level

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-there?

-It was literally higher than our patio doors.

-Strewth.

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'The first thing I want to address is the theory that there is

0:36:400:36:43

'a dip in the main pipe that's been causing these problems.'

0:36:430:36:47

Now, you heard from neighbours there is a dip in the pipe.

0:36:470:36:52

We've asked Anglian and they've been very good with me.

0:36:520:36:55

They've really addressed this and they really want to try

0:36:550:36:58

-and alleviate this problem for good.

-That's good.

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I ask them to inspect that and they confirmed to us

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they have inspected the whole road with a rod camera.

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They say there's nothing wrong with that pipe, there's

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no dips, no flaws, or anything else which you suspected there was.

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Anglian Water provided me with the footage both upstream

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and downstream. There didn't appear

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to be any dips or sags in the pipes.

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Although I am not an expert, it all looks pretty good.

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So, if it's not a dip in the pipe, what is causing the problem?

0:37:290:37:32

All Lisa and Kenny want is to know this is going to be fixed for good

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and they never need to worry about flooding again.

0:37:350:37:38

I've been given a statement for the couple from Anglian Water.

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"We are genuinely sorry that very heavy rain has been causing

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"flooding for Miss Murch and Mr Thompson.

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"We are particularly sorry that we wrongly diagnosed

0:37:480:37:50

"the problem for so long.

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"This level of service falls well below the high standards

0:37:520:37:54

"we set ourselves and we have been working hard to redress that

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"balance." Comments on that first paragraph?

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-Erm, sorry is good.

-Yeah.

0:38:020:38:05

But, yeah, they should have addressed it much earlier.

0:38:050:38:08

Sorry is great and the fact they are now trying to redress it,

0:38:080:38:11

that's all great to me.

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We know there is nothing wrong with the pipes from the footage

0:38:130:38:15

they sent us, so what's causing the flooding?

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"A detailed inspection revealed the problem is caused by

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"flood water getting into the main sewer,

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"which Ms Murch and Mr Thompson's house connects to.

0:38:250:38:28

"This prevents rainwater flowing freely into the main sewer."

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Since diagnosing the problem, Anglian have...

0:38:320:38:37

capped a nearby overflow.

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Rectified the old, illegal pipe.

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But they have gone one step further.

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"We will be fitting a sensor so that we can respond quickly

0:38:500:38:53

"if sewer levels rise.

0:38:530:38:55

"This alarm will be monitored 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

0:38:550:39:00

And no day off for Christmas either. Right.

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If that sensor goes off, they should be here, quick as a flash.

0:39:040:39:08

Not as a flush, as a flash, all right?

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'If the water level rises in the sewer then

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'Anglian Water will be alerted and will be able to remove any excess

0:39:130:39:17

'water before it has a chance to find a way to the surface.

0:39:170:39:21

'With all the extra measures that Anglian Water have put in place,

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'I think Lisa and Kenny's flooding nightmares may finally be over.'

0:39:240:39:28

Let's be honest, right now, most of the UK's flooded.

0:39:280:39:31

-Right.

-This is probably the worst it's been in over 200 years

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-and you haven't had a flood for a while now, have you?

-No.

0:39:350:39:39

-OK, so things are looking a lot better, aren't they?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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So I think your problem is now a thing of the past.

0:39:430:39:47

-So right now, are you feeling happy?

-A lot happier.

-OK, well put.

0:39:470:39:51

-And you as well?

-Yeah, much happier.

0:39:510:39:54

'With their flooding worries hopefully over,

0:39:540:39:56

'Anglian Water have one more offer for the couple.' Okey-dokey.

0:39:560:40:00

There is of course another issue which is quite important, which is?

0:40:000:40:03

-The insurance.

-Exactly. Because you don't need a problem like that.

-No.

0:40:030:40:08

Anglian Water have discussed this with us and your insurance company.

0:40:080:40:13

And the insurance company has said that as a goodwill gesture,

0:40:130:40:17

it will refund the couple's excess of £100.

0:40:170:40:20

And the £1,562.07 cost of the claim will also be covered,

0:40:220:40:27

leaving neither the couple nor the insurance company out of pocket.

0:40:270:40:31

We contacted the couple's insurer

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and they have sent us a statement which explains...

0:40:330:40:37

They have decided,

0:40:400:40:41

after looking at Lisa's case, they will offer her...

0:40:410:40:44

That's great news, so to top it off, Anglian have been able to

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sort out a couple's insurance problems too.

0:40:520:40:55

You shouldn't have to worry about your insurance as a result of this.

0:40:550:41:00

It is literally the most they can do.

0:41:000:41:02

They're saying they'll take care of your insurance,

0:41:020:41:05

they'll take care of the flooding - they're monitoring it 24/7,

0:41:050:41:08

I don't think at this point there's anything more we can do.

0:41:080:41:11

-I think your problems are in the past. Hopefully.

-Hopefully.

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But if they're not, you know where to go.

0:41:150:41:17

-Oh, yes, we know who we'll be calling.

-I don't think you need me.

0:41:170:41:21

I think you go straight to Anglian and they will go bap-bap-bap!

0:41:210:41:24

"Hang on, it's Kenny and Lisa, quick." Yeah? So, is my task done?

0:41:240:41:28

-I think so. You've done a good job.

-I do think so.

0:41:280:41:30

Have I got parole for good behaviour?

0:41:300:41:32

Parole, good behaviour, and another cup of tea.

0:41:320:41:34

In addition to resolving things for Kenny

0:41:340:41:37

and Lisa, Anglian Water also told us

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they are working with the lead local flood authority,

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the Highways Agency, the Environment Agency

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and other partners that are

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responsible for the drainage network

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across Essex

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to look at an holistic approach to managing the flood risk.

0:41:510:41:54

When it comes to the measures they have put in place to stop Lisa

0:41:540:41:57

and Kenny suffering from more flooding, I think we're all happy.

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Anglian state...

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"We have however promised to continue to monitor the situation

0:42:060:42:09

"carefully moving forward."

0:42:090:42:12

We'd just like to say a big thank you to Dom.

0:42:120:42:16

We... You know... It was a last resort for us to get him involved.

0:42:160:42:22

Personally, when Lisa mentioned calling Dom, I thought,

0:42:220:42:24

"What's Dom going to do?"

0:42:240:42:26

But Dom's done everything, he's been wonderful.

0:42:260:42:28

He's been brilliant. He's really helped.

0:42:280:42:29

He has understood the problem, got on the phone to Anglian Water,

0:42:290:42:34

he's got us moving and he's got all the results that we wanted.

0:42:340:42:37

He's been brilliant.

0:42:370:42:39

If we hadn't have called him,

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we probably would have been flooded again in this bad weather.

0:42:400:42:43

-So, yeah.

-Dom for President!

0:42:430:42:46

I think the important thing here now is that Anglian Water have

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found out what the problem is.

0:42:510:42:53

They've addressed it, rectified it

0:42:530:42:55

and they are going to monitor it 24/7.

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So as far as Lisa and Kenny are concerned,

0:42:570:43:01

their worries should be over.

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