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My name's Dominic Littlewood and I'm passionate

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about taking on your consumer battles.

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In fact, taking companies to task has become my goal in life.

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I'm going to go in with a phone call now and ask them for more.

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Big or small, no company is excused from my quest to ensure

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that you get what you're entitled to.

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I'm getting the impression you don't want to answer any questions now.

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-Whether it's getting your money back...

-I'm getting really furious with the company.

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..or cutting through the red tape...

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There is no communication. You're just left,

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you know, dangling.

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..I'm on the case.

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On today's programme - sofas.

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Everyone's den of relaxation and comfort, right?

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Well, not for these three people

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who've all been left standing when their brand-new loungers aren't up to scratch.

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They just don't seem to want to refund.

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They just want to keep repairing, repairing, repairing.

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How our homes are at risk from mother nature...

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In extreme cases, subsidence can cause immense damage to the property.

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You can even have to have your property demolished and rebuilt.

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And do you really know what problems your computer warranty covers?

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I asked the young lady what actually happened to this

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and she said she hit it with a hammer.

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I'm taking on your consumer problems to make sure you don't get done.

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Ah!

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Isn't it lovely, crashing out on a sofa after a hard day at work?

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And considering it's the most comfortable seat in the house,

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it would make sense to splash out on a nice one.

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But what do you do

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if your three-piece suite leaves you sitting less than comfortable?

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Like house-proud Anisha Mohinudeen from Leicester.

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She had the stuffing knocked right out of her

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when her brand-new sofa was delivered.

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I could see that there were a few smudges and scuffs

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and there was a cut in them as well.

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Her brand-spanking-new leather sofa had marks and imperfections

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dotted all over it.

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Anisha had forked out nearly £3,000 for this

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and didn't expect it to arrive in any other condition

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than perfect.

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It was then that her battle with the retailer began.

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My heart was set on these sofas as soon as I'd seen them

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and I was thinking, "What do I do?

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"Do I order more sofas or do I have the money back?"

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A question Anisha never imagined she would have to ask,

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especially after spending weeks searching for the right

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type of sofa for her and her family.

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I'm particular in my sofas.

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I like to have them a certain way.

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-We found the ones that we wanted - or should I say

-I

-wanted -

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in Harveys,

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and they were comfortable, they looked lush.

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It was the Modena range. It's leather,

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and they had recliners and were exactly what we wanted.

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The sofas were set to be the finishing touch

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for her newly decorated lounge.

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It's important to have a comfortable home

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because we spend a lot of time at home with the extended family,

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watching television. We were excited to have the sofas in

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because that was going to make a big part of the decor.

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Anisha spotted the damage as soon as the sofa was placed in her home.

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I wasn't happy at all.

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I was really disappointed. I felt let down,

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because we'd waited 12 to 16 weeks for them to be delivered.

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And they weren't cheap.

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So I was really disappointed.

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And she got straight on the blower to Harveys.

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They apologised and they said they'd have to order more sofas.

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Unfortunately, though, I'd have to wait the 12 to 16 weeks again.

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I wasn't happy at all.

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But when the new sofas arrived, it was a case of deja vu.

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I noticed, after checking them over,

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that there was another cut in them.

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As well, there were a lot of scuffs on the sofa.

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The cut was around 1cm, 1.5cm,

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it wasn't big, but it was noticeable,

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and the smudges and the scuffs on them were in three separate places.

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I wasn't happy. I was really disappointed. At this stage,

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I was thinking,

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"Have I done the right thing by purchasing the sofas from Harveys?"

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It's now nearly a year since she ordered her sofa

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with a 12-month warranty,

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but Anisha is still not happy

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and she's awaiting another replacement section of the sofa.

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This will be the fifth delivery.

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There is a lot of loose leather.

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I find that it seems to be getting looser as the days are going on.

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I also find that there's a massive, huge gap between each section,

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and there is an alignment problem that's so noticeable

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as soon as you walk into the room,

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that a lot of people have commented on it,

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to say, "Are they supposed to be together?"

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I also find that when you sit on this sofa,

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and you extend it, it latches on to a hook and it makes a noise.

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I'm concerned it's going to damage something inside, in the sofa.

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It's been a whole year revolving around Harveys

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and we just want to live a happy life, as a family,

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and get resolvement, hopefully, through Dom.

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Colin Whyman has also written to me.

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His experience has been so bad

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that he's been left

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with a huge empty space in his living room where his dream sofa should be.

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They came and took the sofa away,

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left me with no armchair or nothing.

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I then had to go and purchase myself another chair

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just to sit on.

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Colin bought his three-seater sofa for £910 from DFS,

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one of the largest sofa retailers in the UK.

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However, it is no longer available,

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yet the style is almost exactly the same as this one here.

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The reason I went to DFS was the power of advertising on the TV.

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I went and had a look at the store

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and what was on offer, thought I'd bought myself a good deal.

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When the sofa was delivered,

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Colin was happy.

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Put it in the place

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and thought I'd made the right choice.

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Till the following morning.

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I'd used it at night and reclined it

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and when I put the recliner away,

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the foam in the recliner just rolled up on itself,

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so you were just sitting on lumps.

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Colin called DFS to complain,

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and they sent an engineer out.

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I was expecting them to come in and replace it.

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I nearly had an heart attack when I saw him

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undoing the material at the back.

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I asked him, "What are you doing?"

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He said, "We have to undo the material and repair it."

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But the next day, the sofa broke again.

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DFS fixed it but it broke YET AGAIN.

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Colin had had enough.

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When I rang them, I said I wanted my money back.

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I wrote to them and asked for my money back.

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They pleaded with me to give them one more try to repair it

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and I allowed them to repair it once more.

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They guaranteed they'd replace my money if it wasn't right this time.

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Whilst Colin's sofa was taken away to be fixed,

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they did give him a replacement.

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They just left a two-seater leather sofa,

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which was about as uncomfortable as I don't know what,

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and they laughed as they took it off the lorry

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and said, "We've got to leave you this, I'm afraid."

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But it was no laughing matter for Colin,

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who had to use this replacement sofa for the next ten weeks

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until his one was repaired.

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On the third time the sofa came back,

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they brought it in, fixed it up and they were gone like a shot.

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Then when I examined it properly,

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they hadn't touched the left-hand side where it had gone

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and I contacted them straightaway

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and said, "You haven't even repaired the left-hand side."

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Colin decided he now wanted the sofa to be taken away

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and his £910 refunded,

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as Colin said DFS had promised him.

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I phoned them and asked them...

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that the sofa had broken again

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and I required my money back,

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which they said they didn't do.

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I'd have to come and choose something different. I felt gutted.

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Colin believed that DFS had gone back on their word

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with the refund, but he desperately needed a sofa

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so agreed to choose an alternative one.

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I had to go to the Cambridge store to choose another sofa.

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There wasn't a great deal in there that took my interest.

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I did find one, and picked that.

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However, this sofa was £163 more expensive

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than his last, and Colin had to pay the difference.

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And then, as soon as he had put in the order,

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they took his old sofa away.

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They left me with nothing...and no replacement.

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I said, "Do I get anything else to sit on?" They said, "No,

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"because you're now treated as a new customer."

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Colin has complained to DFS about his treatment

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but feels it's fallen on deaf ears.

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Nicola from Loughborough is also having a tough time.

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She bought a corner sofa from ScS in January 2012,

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and from the beginning, it wasn't a great experience.

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It took double the amount of time to arrive than she was quoted,

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and three months after it did finally arrive,

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she started noticing problems. The seats were sinking in the sides

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and the chair was squeaky.

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Various engineers have been out -

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in total eight times - to try and fix the problems.

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Two years on, her sofa still squeaks

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and the cushions are still sinking.

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ScS has given Nicola £100 compensation

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for the late delivery,

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however, they are not taking any further action.

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It's now time for me to step in and try and help these families

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take a more comfortable seat on their settees.

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First things first - I turn to the internet to do some research

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on these three companies because, believe me,

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they play a significant part in this £9.5 billion industry.

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Pff! I wish I had £9.5 billion.

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DFS, or Direct Furnishing Supplies,

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has been designing and manufacturing sofas for over 40 years.

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ScS, or Sofas and Carpets Specialists,

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has been around for over 100 years

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and, as you may have guessed, not only specialise in sofas

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but carpets as well.

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And then there's the UK's largest furniture specialist -

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Harveys, a British company founded just 48 years ago,

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and now has over 150 stores throughout the country.

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They may be big, but that doesn't put me or my team off.

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We have sent all three companies an e-mail

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outlining the relevant cases

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and to let them know I'm on the case.

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As my investigation digs deeper,

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it throws up some rather interesting revelations.

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He said, "You do realise you're not supposed to sit on it every day?"

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I thought then, "What have I bought?

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"How can you not sit on a sofa every day?"

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Sometimes, products we buy, they go wrong.

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That's just a way of life.

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Now, it's one thing when it's something small and replaceable,

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like a mobile phone. Different kettle of fish, though,

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when it's something like your house.

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They're the problems dealt with on a daily basis

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by the UK Environmental Law Association,

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or UKELA for short.

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If you are suddenly hit by a raft of unexpected issues in your home,

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these are the guys you want on your side.

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Environmental risk is really

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something that is going to hit you unexpectedly.

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These are risks which are often hidden from sight.

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They come up and cause problems in terms of cost for you, unexpectedly,

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or inconvenience, unexpectedly.

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So it's something that you just don't know about.

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So, what are we talking?

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A little bit of damp? A few cracks here and there?

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Contaminated land and flooding and subsidence are all big issues.

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Contaminated land can be very expensive to put right.

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Sometimes, it can involve demolishing buildings.

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Flooding can be extremely serious to deal with,

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and it can have a devastating effect on your house as well,

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as can subsidence and heave problems from mining,

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and problems like that.

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Yikes! That's a nasty old list.

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But let's look at the problems one by one.

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I bet a lot of people quite like the idea of having a small river

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flowing through the back of their garden.

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But as we're all aware, living near water can cause problems.

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Now, I've had an e-mail from a guy here

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who's found himself having to shell out a fortune

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when a river bank collapsed, water backed up

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and flooded his neighbours' gardens,

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and he had to pay for the repair.

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Unfortunately, it seems that is the law,

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the nattily named riparian water rights nonetheless.

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Riparian rights refer to natural water courses,

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rivers and streams,

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and they mean that the owners of land on either side of the river or stream

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are responsible for maintaining the bank

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and the integrity of the river and stream.

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OK. What about when the water source is not on your property

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but running close by?

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A lot of housing in the UK was built on flood plains,

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and it's only now that we're realising that this was

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actually a very bad idea.

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Extremely bad damage can be caused by flooding.

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It really is a very unpleasant thing for you to have happen to you.

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Floodwaters pick up discharge from drains and sewers,

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muck off the roads, everything,

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and they transport it into your house,

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so it really is extremely unpleasant to have to deal with it.

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But there are checks you can do.

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You can actually do a search of the Environment Agency

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flood risk database

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to identify whether your house is in a flood-prone area.

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That'll give you some indication.

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When we buy, say, some furniture or a television,

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we're protected by some consumer laws,

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but with houses, things are a little different.

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UK law doesn't protect you as a home-buyer.

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There's a basic principle of UK law, which is the buyer beware,

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so basically, you have to find out all that you can about your house

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before you buy it, and once you've bought it,

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any problems that arise are generally down to you.

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But the principle is, basically,

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try to avoid those problems coming up in the first place.

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Right, so, try and avoid unexpected problems

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coming up in the first place.

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The clue is in the word "unexpected", though, isn't it?

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How can we predict them?

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When you're buying a property, your solicitor should ask questions

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of the seller and he should include questions about environmental risk.

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Questions around contamination, flooding issues, subsidence

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and heave, around Japanese knotweed.

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Japanese knotweed, trust me, it's nasty.

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Japanese knotweed causes really serious structural damage to

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properties with the roots going through floor slabs and walls.

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It's a very innocuous-looking plant. Only an expert can really spot it.

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You have to remove every single piece of Japanese knotweed

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because it grows from even the tiniest bit left in the ground.

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So, that's very important,

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and having removed every single piece of it, you spray the affected area

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with weedkiller over several seasons and that will usually eradicate it.

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But there is a more hidden danger beneath our homes.

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I get a lot of you e-mailing about problems with subsidence.

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Subsidenced properties is common in certain areas of the country,

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typically those where there's been a lot of mining activity in the past.

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Subsidence is typically identified by cracking in walls,

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poorly fitting doors and windows.

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In extreme cases, subsidence can cause immense damage to the property.

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You can even have to have your property demolished and rebuilt.

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I have had an e-mail from a lady called Edna about her problem

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with subsidence.

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Edna got in touch with me

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because she was worried about the cracks appearing in her house.

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Understandably, she thought it was subsidence

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but her insurance company said it wasn't.

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They said it was down to the expansion of the materials

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her house was built on.

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Unbeknown to Edna, her house was built on a former salt

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mine which meant she wasn't covered by her insurance.

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Ouch!

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Salt mine stabilisation is a really significant

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issue in the Cheshire area and this is a typical one.

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There is help available for people like Edna.

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The first thing I would say is that it's important to tackle

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the insurers on this.

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The Coal Authority, there's also the Cheshire Brine Compensation Board,

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both of whom have compensation schemes for people affected by subsidence.

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Hm, sounds like there's a lot of hidden issues out there.

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Environmental issues are in the media constantly yet consumer

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knowledge is still very limited and you can be exposed to risk

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if you don't deal with the issues that arise.

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So, you really need to improve your knowledge

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so you can protect yourself adequately.

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Right, do your research

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and make sure you ask the right questions when you buy your house.

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So, is that the problem sorted?

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The seller will only answer those to the extent

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they actually have knowledge, so if they don't know about a risk,

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you won't know about it either through that route.

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Right, back to square one. What else can you do?

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You can commission a report to identify typical environmental

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risks you will face as a home-buyer.

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There are a number of commercial reports available on the market

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and the cost is modest, typically under £200.

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They are well worth doing.

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OK, there you have it - ask questions, do your research

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and get a report and hopefully you won't be hit by any house horrors.

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I've had three people get in touch with me

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who have all had the same complaint.

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They've ordered their dream sofas only for them to arrive

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and they are faulty.

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It's been like getting blood out of a stone getting the companies

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to put it right once and for all.

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If you've got a suite that falls apart, you don't

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have to wait a fortnight for someone to repair it. It was a day old.

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After contacting all three companies, DFS, Harveys

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and ScS, I've had an e-mail back from DFS asking me

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to give the press office a call about Colin's case.

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We've sent some paperwork over to DFS

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and their PR company want to speak to me.

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I'm hoping to talk to Liam Bell,

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the associate director of their PR company.

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Hi, is Liam Bell there, please?

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The receptionist says she will put me through.

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Liam answers but he doesn't want us to broadcast his voice.

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Fair enough, Liam. Liam, it's Dom at the BBC.

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He goes on to explain to me

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that after reading all of the documentation we've sent him

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regarding Colin's sofa, the best way to resolve this issue is

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to deal directly with the customer service manager at DFS.

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Liam, I don't mind who I speak to, I just want to resolve it

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whether that's you or customer service, I don't know.

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Give us his number and I will give him a try in case he's still there.

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Thanks, Liam. Bye. Fantastic! We've got the ball rolling for Colin.

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And it appears we are on a roll as I received an e-mail from ScS.

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But I can't get too excited as they are just arranging another

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appointment for another engineer to take a look at Nicola's

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squeaky sofa.

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My team quickly respond to ScS to remind them

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that two of the engineers who went out to Nicola were from FIRA,

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the Furniture Industry Research Association who,

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in their report, state a manufacturing issue with her sofa.

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Nicola sent a copy of the report to The Furniture Ombudsman who

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has also said the sofa has a manufacturing fault and we would

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question the amount of callouts ScS think is acceptable to fix her sofa.

0:20:040:20:09

OK, let's put this into perspective and look at all three cases

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and count up exactly how many visits

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and revisits each of them had from their respective retailers.

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Right, let's start with Nicola.

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So far, she's had eight visits from ScS

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and she is about to have a ninth.

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Anisha hasn't had one, not two, not three, not four...

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I sound like a market trader, but she's had five visits from Harveys.

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And finally, Colin.

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So far, he's had two visits, one to pick it up and redeliver it,

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the second to pick it up yet again.

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It's enough to knock the stuffing out of anyone.

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So how many visits or attempts to repair the item is

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seen as reasonable before you can start

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knocking at the retailer's door asking for an alternative solution?

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I'm off to find out from The Furniture Ombudsman.

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John, here's your chance to put The Furniture Ombudsman on the map. Who are you and what do you do?

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The Furniture Ombudsman are concerned with raising industry standards,

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inspiring consumer confidence, and most importantly the role of

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any ombudsman is to resolve disputes between consumers and retailers.

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How many times is a manufacturer going to be able to come out

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and try and repair a sofa that is considered reasonable?

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The obligation would sit with the retailer

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and the law would say a reasonable number of times without specifying.

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But isn't the law about to change?

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Soon they will have a limited amount of opportunities,

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potentially only one opportunity, to repair before they have to

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look at other offers to the consumer.

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I think it's quite fair, ideally it should be right

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when you get it, if it's not, one chance, you miss your chance,

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your problem, give me the money back or another one.

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And what the law is going to do is set a baseline

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so if that's not suitable for the consumer,

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repair or replacement, the law will allow for the negotiation,

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set a baseline by which the consumer can ask for their money back

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after one attempt.

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I'm trying to help a lady who's got a settee corner unit.

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She has had various bits changed five times now.

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What she's got initially looks OK

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but when you start looking close, you find the seams don't line up,

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some have more infill than others and they look puffy.

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It doesn't look like a sofa that's been ordered

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and delivered at the same time.

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Where does she stand?

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Well, the law says that any repairs should be fit and lasting

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and if there's issues with the repairs, then potentially,

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she's entitled to an alternative remedy.

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The law would also say that

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where the goods are of a satisfactory quality, appearance comes under that,

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so it should look as you would expect it to look.

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If there's been attempts to repair and those have been unsatisfactory,

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certainly, the law would say she might be able to look at repairs,

0:22:450:22:48

partial refunds, allowances to keep

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if it's only an aesthetic issue. Those kind of solutions.

0:22:500:22:52

That was an interesting chat and it's made me more determined

0:22:520:22:57

to get all three cases resolved.

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Nicola has been in touch with the team,

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letting us know an engineer from ScS came out to look at the issues

0:23:020:23:06

surrounding her sofa and has made a report.

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We've heard nothing back from ScS about this so far.

0:23:090:23:12

As for Colin's case with DFS,

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e-mails have been going back and forth

0:23:150:23:17

with regards to when his new sofa will be delivered

0:23:170:23:20

and whether he will get a refund of the £163 extra he had to pay out.

0:23:200:23:26

Finally, they've laid out an offer for him

0:23:260:23:28

and Colin is now considering this.

0:23:280:23:30

However, there is one element of his case that fascinates me.

0:23:300:23:34

According to one of the engineers that came out to fix the sofa,

0:23:340:23:37

it was Colin's fault it kept breaking!

0:23:370:23:40

Perhaps it was meant as a joke, but Colin didn't see the funny side.

0:23:400:23:44

He said, "You do realise you're not supposed to sit on it every day?"

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I said, "What?" He said, "You're not supposed to sit on the sofa every day.

0:23:480:23:51

"That's what causes it." And I thought then, "What have I bought?"

0:23:510:23:55

How can you not sit on a sofa every day, that you've bought?

0:23:550:23:58

I'm hoping it was said in jest,

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as most sofas go through vigorous testing

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to make sure they're built to last.

0:24:030:24:05

Philip Reynolds,

0:24:050:24:07

the Chief Operating Officer at

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the Furniture Industry Research Association,

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will explain more, as he knows his chaise longue

0:24:120:24:14

from his leather recliners.

0:24:140:24:16

We test all types of furniture here, whether it's for the office

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or for hotels, hospitals, or the consumer's home.

0:24:190:24:23

The biggest issue that we see with upholstered sofas

0:24:230:24:27

is really around the cushions. If a client has a cushion

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that's filled with fibre, there will generally be a lot of settlement,

0:24:330:24:36

and we see a lot of complaints coming in from consumers

0:24:360:24:39

about that settlement.

0:24:390:24:41

It's a fairly easy thing to stop,

0:24:410:24:44

but it just means that the consumer

0:24:440:24:46

has to constantly plump the cushions every day.

0:24:460:24:48

OK, but how are sofas tested for durability?

0:24:480:24:52

When we test sofas, we're using test loads

0:24:520:24:56

that simulates a 110-kilo person, which is about 16 stone.

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And with a sofa, we will test for a number of positions

0:25:000:25:03

on the sofa, to simulate what happens with people

0:25:030:25:06

sitting at different points on the sofa.

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We're looking at the full performance of the sofa frame,

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so we start with a stability test, to check that the chair won't tip over.

0:25:110:25:17

We check for things like sharp edges and squeeze points,

0:25:170:25:20

particularly important with recliner chairs.

0:25:200:25:24

And then we go and do strength and durability tests on sofas.

0:25:240:25:28

This particular sofa, we're applying a weight

0:25:280:25:32

to the seat and the back, and we will do that

0:25:320:25:35

for 25,000 times, to simulate somebody

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sitting in that chair 25,000 times.

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Right, so a sofa should withstand sitting on every day.

0:25:420:25:46

Back on the case, I've received an e-mail from Harveys

0:25:490:25:52

to confirm they are looking into Anisha's case, which is great.

0:25:520:25:56

So if Anisha does eventually get a new sofa,

0:25:560:25:59

it will be almost a year after she bought it,

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and she only has a 12-month warranty.

0:26:020:26:04

So what happens now if her sofa develops

0:26:040:26:07

another fault? I know just the fella

0:26:070:26:09

who can furnish us with the answers.

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If you have a product repaired or replaced

0:26:120:26:14

during the warranty period that you have,

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it doesn't necessarily mean that

0:26:170:26:19

that warranty will be continued or refreshed.

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So say if you bought something in 2013

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and the warranty ended in 2015, that's when it would end.

0:26:230:26:26

It wouldn't continue after you've had that product

0:26:260:26:28

repaired or replaced. Otherwise,

0:26:280:26:30

you'd just have an ongoing warranty that never ends

0:26:300:26:32

and they'd never be able to sell them again.

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So it's just the standard term in the warranty.

0:26:340:26:37

Not good news for Anisha, then.

0:26:380:26:40

I'd better get a move on and get this case solved quickly!

0:26:400:26:43

Anisha has been in touch and she's got some good news.

0:26:450:26:49

The final piece of her settee has been delivered. Hooray!

0:26:490:26:53

But unfortunately, she's also got some bad news.

0:26:530:26:56

She claims the delivery men have scratched her newly-laid floor,

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and she's sent me in a picture.

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Not good.

0:27:050:27:06

OK, I'm about to ring Harveys

0:27:060:27:09

because I want to find out what's happening with poor old Anisha.

0:27:090:27:12

Now, I've been given a name and a number of somebody to speak to.

0:27:120:27:16

I want to talk to the Head of Retail Operations at Harveys.

0:27:160:27:20

PHONE RINGS OUT

0:27:200:27:23

Come on, Harveys, pick your phone up!

0:27:230:27:26

It's Dominic Littlewood, from the BBC.

0:27:280:27:30

Thank you.

0:27:310:27:33

'The receptionist tells me he's not available at the moment,

0:27:330:27:36

'but if I give her my number, he will call me back straightaway.'

0:27:360:27:40

Huh! Er, yeah... What's his direct-dial number?

0:27:400:27:43

I'll call him, shall I?

0:27:430:27:46

'She says she can't give me his direct number,

0:27:460:27:48

'but if I give her mine, he will phone as soon as he can. Hmm.'

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Desktops, laptops, tablets,

0:27:580:28:00

mobile phones, games consoles,

0:28:000:28:02

the list goes on and on.

0:28:020:28:03

We all have a huge amount of electrical items

0:28:030:28:06

in our homes at the moment and, if my inbox is anything to go by,

0:28:060:28:09

when they go wrong, they will bring you as much pain

0:28:090:28:12

as they will pleasure. Especially if you're the one

0:28:120:28:15

that ends up footing the bill,

0:28:150:28:16

even though you don't think you should be.

0:28:160:28:18

It's a battle between customers and retailers

0:28:180:28:21

that has been going on since we first invented the telly.

0:28:210:28:25

The main complaints I get

0:28:250:28:26

are about being charged for repairs to your gadget,

0:28:260:28:29

even though you thought it was covered

0:28:290:28:31

by the manufacturer's warranty.

0:28:310:28:34

We have examples every day where a product is booked in

0:28:340:28:37

as a warranty repair and it turns out not to be.

0:28:370:28:40

So part of our job is to educate the customer,

0:28:400:28:42

bring their expectations into line with their terms and conditions.

0:28:420:28:45

Amir's company inspects and repairs manufacturers' products

0:28:460:28:50

while under warranty.

0:28:500:28:51

All manufacturing issues within the warranty period

0:28:530:28:56

for the manufacturer will be covered free of charge under warranty.

0:28:560:29:00

But if you have helped that process along by dropping your laptop,

0:29:000:29:04

by breaking the screen,

0:29:040:29:05

then you will normally find that the warranty is null and void.

0:29:050:29:10

And one of the team's main jobs is to investigate

0:29:100:29:13

whether a repair should or should not be covered by the warranty.

0:29:130:29:17

It's about manufacturing defects versus accidental damage.

0:29:170:29:22

If a product comes into us -

0:29:220:29:24

and most of our products that we receive here are in-warranty repairs,

0:29:240:29:27

booked in in good faith - and it's going to be a warranty repair,

0:29:270:29:30

but if my engineers then open the product

0:29:300:29:33

and find half a glass of orange juice inside,

0:29:330:29:35

then that automatically becomes an out-of-warranty repair.

0:29:350:29:38

And from Amir's experience, orange juice can be

0:29:380:29:41

the lesser of the evils when it comes to assessing damage.

0:29:410:29:44

You name it, we've seen it inside a laptop.

0:29:440:29:48

Everything from a laptop completely clogged up with cat hairs,

0:29:480:29:52

erm, all the way through to curry contamination, and orange juice.

0:29:520:29:56

You name it, we've seen it. We don't have cats here

0:29:560:29:59

and we don't eat curry near the laptops!

0:29:590:30:02

So basically, our job is to take evidence, photograph it,

0:30:020:30:08

send it to the customer and prove to them that,

0:30:080:30:10

this is what we found inside your machine,

0:30:100:30:12

and it's entirely consistent with the fault that you've reported.

0:30:120:30:15

This then means the damage is not covered by your warranty,

0:30:150:30:18

but laptops aren't the main offenders.

0:30:180:30:21

As we are starting to live our lives on mobile phones, for example,

0:30:210:30:25

they're in our pockets, they're everywhere,

0:30:250:30:27

people are taking them into the bathrooms, the showers, you name it,

0:30:270:30:32

they live with us, people are constantly on their mobile phones.

0:30:320:30:35

Now, that exposes the phone

0:30:350:30:37

to more than what the product is designed for,

0:30:370:30:39

so what we're finding now is liquid damage is probably

0:30:390:30:42

the most common non-warranty issue we're finding with mobile phones.

0:30:420:30:47

Whether it's eating a curry whilst blogging or texting in the bath,

0:30:470:30:52

all of these examples are accidental damage

0:30:520:30:54

and it's very interesting to see some of these examples

0:30:540:30:57

of what people try and pass off as a manufacturing fault.

0:30:570:31:01

All of these products I'm going to show you were sent in

0:31:020:31:05

for a free-of-charge warranty repair.

0:31:050:31:07

Um, this product was reported that it wasn't switching on.

0:31:070:31:10

We've opened it up and, as you can clearly see,

0:31:100:31:13

there's heavy liquid contamination all throughout the laptop.

0:31:130:31:16

And it's historic contamination,

0:31:160:31:18

so the contacts have completely corroded through.

0:31:180:31:21

The next one here is, "My screen wasn't working"

0:31:210:31:24

was reported to us. We switched the unit on

0:31:240:31:26

and there's a huge crack across the middle of the screen.

0:31:260:31:29

Again, pressure has been applied

0:31:290:31:31

more than what the product was designed to handle.

0:31:310:31:34

And the last one...

0:31:340:31:36

This was sent in for a free-of-charge warranty repair

0:31:370:31:42

and, er, upon investigation, I asked the young lady,

0:31:420:31:46

"What actually happened to this?"

0:31:460:31:48

And she said she actually hit it with a hammer,

0:31:480:31:50

which is why it's in the state that it's in.

0:31:500:31:53

OK, we get the point, but what can we as consumers do

0:31:530:31:56

to help protect ourselves against life's little accidents?

0:31:560:32:00

Physical damage is never covered by the standard warranty.

0:32:000:32:04

There are a few manufacturers that do accidental damage warranty,

0:32:040:32:07

but it's normally a paid for add-on.

0:32:070:32:10

So, as a general rule, if you want added protection,

0:32:100:32:13

you're going to have to pay for it.

0:32:130:32:15

And I get a lot of e-mails about this kind of thing.

0:32:150:32:18

I've been contacted by Leesha,

0:32:180:32:20

who bought herself an expensive laptop and paid

0:32:200:32:24

for an after sales three-year, all-encompassing warranty.

0:32:240:32:28

Two years later, she got a hairline crack in the screen, took it back

0:32:280:32:31

to the retailer and they said, "Must be accidental damage."

0:32:310:32:35

"Not a problem," Leesha thought,

0:32:350:32:36

"because I've got this all-encompassing warranty,"

0:32:360:32:39

which covers accidental damage, right?

0:32:390:32:42

Er, no, it doesn't.

0:32:420:32:44

Most manufacturers will sell you an extended warranty, so you have

0:32:440:32:48

to read the terms and conditions before you buy the warranty

0:32:480:32:51

to find out what it does and does not cover.

0:32:510:32:53

The best advice I can give to any consumer is -

0:32:530:32:55

read your terms and conditions.

0:32:550:32:57

I couldn't agree more.

0:32:570:32:59

I know I sound like an old record, but read the small print!

0:32:590:33:03

But what about if you do genuinely have

0:33:030:33:06

what you believe to be a manufacturing defect?

0:33:060:33:08

And Martin's e-mailed in.

0:33:100:33:12

Now, he bought himself a laptop and, after five weeks,

0:33:120:33:15

the arrow key fell off, so he took it back to the shop,

0:33:150:33:18

only to be told that it was down to water damage.

0:33:180:33:21

What?! Anyhow, he'd only had it a few weeks

0:33:210:33:23

and he ended up forking out 120 quid in repairs!

0:33:230:33:26

Don't make sense.

0:33:280:33:30

Physical damage can happen at any time.

0:33:300:33:32

The length of time you've had the product

0:33:320:33:35

is no indication of whether it's physical damage or not.

0:33:350:33:38

Each case has to be looked at on its own merits and judged therefore,

0:33:380:33:42

so, if someone said to you it's liquid damage,

0:33:420:33:44

they have to prove it's liquid damage.

0:33:440:33:46

My advice to that customer is take legal advice,

0:33:460:33:49

see what your rights are, present your evidence.

0:33:490:33:53

The ultimate resolution to any of these issues is the courts.

0:33:530:33:56

Take it to a Small Claims Court, the manufacturer will have to

0:33:560:33:59

present his side, his evidence, to an impartial person,

0:33:590:34:04

you present your side of the story and let someone else decide.

0:34:040:34:08

Good advice, and Amir has given me some top tips on how best to avoid

0:34:080:34:12

ending up with your machine having to end up in a workshop like his.

0:34:120:34:17

If you do spill water on a phone or laptop,

0:34:170:34:20

turn it off, remove the battery

0:34:200:34:22

and let it all thoroughly dry out before you turn it on again.

0:34:220:34:26

Also, interestingly, if you've spilt black coffee on your gadget,

0:34:260:34:30

it tends to dry to a powder, whereas sugary coffee

0:34:300:34:34

will end up sticky and can eat away a vital component.

0:34:340:34:37

Mine's a latte to go, please. No sugar.

0:34:390:34:42

Let's be honest, most of us probably

0:34:420:34:44

are a bit lazy when it comes to checking our paperwork.

0:34:440:34:48

But when you buy a product, it is worthwhile having

0:34:480:34:50

a little look at the warranty, see what you are actually covered for

0:34:500:34:53

and what damage you're responsible for.

0:34:530:34:56

So when Tiddles piddles on your keyboard,

0:34:560:34:58

just remember, it's unlikely you'll be covered.

0:34:580:35:01

Three of the UK's largest furniture companies - DFS, Harveys and ScS -

0:35:060:35:11

have got some rather disgruntled customers,

0:35:110:35:14

who claim buying their brand-new three-piece suite

0:35:140:35:17

has been far from a sweet experience.

0:35:170:35:19

Actually, it's left them with a very nasty taste in their mouths.

0:35:190:35:24

I feel upset. Um, I'm tired, I feel tired.

0:35:240:35:28

I feel like my life's been revolving around Harveys.

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I've never had to make so many phone calls to a company before.

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Colin and Nicola have both had five or more visits

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from their respective sofa companies trying to fix the problem.

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Anisha has also had numerous callouts,

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but she now has another issue with Harveys,

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as she claims they've scratched her floor

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whilst delivering her last section of the sofa.

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When the engineer came, um, that's when he had taken that sofa away

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to bring the other sofa in and I'd noticed that he damaged my floor.

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And, er, we'd only just had the floor replaced,

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so it's actually a new floor

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and I explained to him, "Look, the floor's being damaged,

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"you've damaged the floor." Um, he went on...

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..shouting, "I didn't do that!" You know, "This happened before!

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"You've had these scratches. You've done them yourself."

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Um, "We've not just made those scratches."

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I said, "No," I said, "Look, there's no need to shout,

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"but you have done that damage.

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"I can assure you, the damage was not there this morning."

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I've just put in a call to Harveys

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to see what they have to say about Anisha's scratched floor.

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The receptionist said their head of customer service

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-will get back to me very soon.

-TELEPHONE RINGS

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'Ah, this must be him, then.'

0:36:410:36:43

Hello?

0:36:430:36:44

Gary, hi, it's Dominic Littlewood from the BBC.

0:36:440:36:47

OK, Gary, so you obviously know the reason I'm ringing.

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'I get straight to the nitty-gritty of her damaged floor.'

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So, as far as the repair goes, you've instructed her

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to get it repaired herself and send the invoice to you?

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'Harveys are going to give Anisha the benefit of the doubt

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'and pay for the floor.'

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So whether it's a repair or replacement or whatever,

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you'll make sure that it's put back to the standard...?

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'Great! It's a yes.

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'Things are looking good for Anisha as they have another proposal.'

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Have you told Anisha yet what you plan on doing?

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'He says no, as they have respected Anisha's wishes

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'and she wanted Harveys to liaise with me and my team first.'

0:37:220:37:26

Gary, thanks so much to your time. I'll let you get back to driving.

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Thanks, then. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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'Brilliant. I'm looking forward to telling Anisha the news.'

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As for Colin and his ongoing six-month battle with DFS

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that included five visits to try and fix his sofa,

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to ultimately him being left without a sofa altogether,

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DFS has finally made him an offer.

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They will give him a full refund for his sofa.

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I can't believe it. I can't believe that he's actually got my money back.

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I knew that Dom wouldn't let me down. I knew that.

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I'm overwhelmed that that is what is happening and I'm so grateful.

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Now I feel like there's a weight been taken off my shoulders.

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This has been six months just dragging you down.

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I'm so grateful. Thank you very much.

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DFS has since been in touch and wanted to...

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..and say that they are...

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They then go on to talk specifically

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about Colin's claim that he was left sofa-less.

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"In Mr Whyman's case..."

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And finally, they responded to Colin's remark that a DFS employee

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told him he should not sit on his sofa every day.

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Fair enough, I say.

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It's good news for Nicola too with ScS.

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After her ninth visit from the company

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to assess the squeaky sofa, they finally agreed to collect it

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and are going to give her a full refund. Result.

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We asked ScS about their returns policy for damaged sofas

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and how many times they deem reasonable for an engineer

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to come out to fix a fault with one of their products

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before they feel they should either refund or exchange.

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We also wanted to know ScS' policy when customers

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are not satisfied with the product, but so far, they have yet to reply.

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I'm chuffed to bits knowing Colin and Nicola

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will hopefully be enjoying the best seat in their house sometime soon.

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As for Anisha, I'm off to see her at home.

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Now, the weather may be atrocious, but that doesn't stop me coming

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all the way up to Leicester to meet Anisha and give her some news.

0:40:020:40:05

Gordon Bennett! It's pouring down!

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-Anisha!

-All right, Dom, nice to see you.

-How you doing?

-Come in.

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Pouring down out there!

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'Anisha tells me she's received a letter from Harveys

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'outlining their offer. I take a seat on the sofa

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'that has caused her all these problems.'

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I'll tell you what, Anisha, it's lovely and comfortable.

0:40:300:40:33

Oh, they are comfortable, Dom.

0:40:330:40:34

Very comfortable to sit on.

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-Here you go.

-Right, that's the letter they sent you? Recorded delivery?

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That is, yes.

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'We start with how Harveys propose

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'to solve the problem of the damaged floor.'

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"Please find enclosed a cheque to the value of £900 as full and final

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"settlement in relation to the issue raised by yourself

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"on the 28th of January concerning the damaged floor.

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"This amount has been agreed in line with the receipts which you have

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"submitted and purely a gesture of goodwill as I am not in a position

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-"to either prove or disprove how this damage occurred."

-OK.

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So are you happy with that?

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I'm happy with the cheque for the floor.

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I just wanted my floor restored and I've got enough money to do that,

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-so I'm happy to accept that.

-Yeah.

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'Well, that's one half polished off. The letter then moves on to the sofa

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'and Harveys present Anisha with a few options.'

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"To retain the current suite that is within your home,

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"or to arrange collection of the suite with a full cancellation refund

0:41:280:41:31

"from the finance company on the completion of that collection.

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"Please note that the refund will include any monies

0:41:350:41:38

"already paid as part of your financial agreement."

0:41:380:41:40

'Brilliant news that has put a smile back on Anisha's face.'

0:41:400:41:44

-Do you accept their offer?

-I think that's what we'll do.

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-I think that's wise.

-Accept the offer.

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You've got your £2,500-£3,000 back, yeah?

0:41:490:41:52

Every single penny. You've had a use of this for a year.

0:41:520:41:55

You now realise what you do and don't want, at their expense.

0:41:550:42:00

-I think you start again.

-Yes, I think so.

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OK, but before we get too comfortable, is my job done?

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-Yes.

-You happy?

-Thank you so much, Dom, I appreciate it.

-My pleasure.

0:42:050:42:09

-You'll see me out?

-Yes.

-Cheers, Anisha!

-Thank you.

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I was getting so comfy then as well!

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Harveys had this to say...

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With regards to Anisha, they say...

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I'd just like to say a big massive thank you to Dom,

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cos he's done so much for us.

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He's lifted the weight off my shoulders, he's found a resolution,

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and I'm sure it's a lot sooner

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than it would have actually been if it was me myself.

0:42:510:42:54

Good on you, Harveys, you finally came through for Anisha

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and, as far as I'm concerned, that's a full house,

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all three cases done and dusted and everyone happy.

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Well, we're glad we're going to be going to find another sofa now,

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so, um, it's more shopping, which I'm sure everyone enjoys,

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and hopefully we'll find the right settee.

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