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'My name is Dominic Littlewood, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
'and I'm passionate about taking on your consumer battles. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
'In fact, taking companies to task has become my goal in life.' | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
"Do you think she deserves her money back?" I said, "Yeah." | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
'Big or small - no company is excused from my quest | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
'to ensure that you get what you're entitled to.' | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
We were left with no washing machine, no sink, no cooker. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
This was quite difficult with a young son of four. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
'Whether it's getting your money back... | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
"It was extraordinary circumstances. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
"You're not entitled to any sort of compensation at all." | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
'..or getting to the bottom of your contract | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
'and terms and conditions.' | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
The reason being, what I'm doing, I just want to clarify whether | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
all these sales reps are in the right position to judge | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
what product's suitable for a customer. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
'Whatever the issues, I'm here to help.' | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
We all need a break from the rat race, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
but I help a family whose holiday was less than relaxing. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
It was just a wild goose chase that didn't need to happen. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
Also, when borrowing cash leaves some of you out of pocket. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
I'm feeling like a fool. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
And I give you the lowdown | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
on what to do if an ad is too good to be true. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
I'm taking on your consumer problems to make sure you don't get done! | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
Every year, millions of us escape the hustle and bustle of life | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
to relax and recharge on holiday. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
But what happens when you get to your destination | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and the dream holiday you thought you booked | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
turns out to be a nightmare? Who do you turn to? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
And that's the problem Claire and Gary Saunders from Nottingham faced | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
when the hotel they booked in Turkey didn't meet their expectations. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
I'm a builder and I've been on some sites that are better. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
It was disgusting. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
I wouldn't have even let a tramp stop in a room like that. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
After having to move to alternative accommodation, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
the couple were left out of pocket | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
and they've been in dispute with their holiday company ever since. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
'So they've contacted me to see if I can help.' | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
We paid for a four-star hotel when we booked the holiday. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
-We just wanted what we paid for, really. -Yeah. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Back in April, when the couple booked, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
they had no idea of what lay ahead. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
We were really excited. I think me and Gary are the biggest kids | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
when it comes to going away. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
To get the fortnight away with the kids, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
it's one of the best feelings ever. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
Claire and Gary had saved hard for their family holiday in the sun, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
so it was important they found a good deal. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
I went on the internet and had a look round. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
We did look at other places, but On The Beach came up with | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
the best price for the same sort of holiday, the pictures looked nice, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
and the description looked nice, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
which, that's what you look at when you go with other holiday firms. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
The holiday they found was in the Turkish resort of Marmaris. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
We went for a four-star all-inclusive accommodation. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
The flights and transfers were included in the price, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
which made it all that better. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
The two-week holiday came in at £1,900 | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and the family would be staying at the four-star Hotel Club Pineta. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Let the good times roll. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
When we first got to the hotel and we walked up the step | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
and there was a drunken person there already. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He weren't very nice, what he said at first. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
And that's when alarm bells were ringing. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
The first thing the receptionist said was, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
"Oh, your room's not ready yet." This was at 4am. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Having travelled through the night, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
this wasn't the welcome they'd been hoping for. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
When we went to the breakfast bar at 7am, the food was just... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
The best way to describe it, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
you wouldn't feed it to pigs. It was just awful. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
There were plug sockets hanging off the walls. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
We went into the toilet facilities. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
When you looked in the toilet bowls, they were black. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
There was still toilet paper on the floor that people had used. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
There was broken glass round the swimming pool. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Broken gutters, the protectors, and broken tiles. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
On one of the banisters, there was a screw sticking up. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
After six hours waiting, the family were finally offered their room. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Perhaps that at least would live up to the four-star standard | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
they were expecting? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
It was a little box room with three single beds crammed into it. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:29 | |
The air conditioning was held together by a razor blade. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
The fridge was green, mouldy. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
The bed sheets were still wringing wet, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
there was mud all over the floor... | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
It weren't nice and it was so cramped. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Disgusted by the state of it, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
Claire and Gary decided to speak to their rep. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
When the rep turned up and she said who she was, we're thinking, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
"Are you not from On The Beach?" | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
She said, "No, I'm from YouTravel." | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
She said On The Beach use YouTravel for their accommodation. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
This revelation came as a slight shock to Claire and Gary | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
but, having booked the holiday with On The Beach, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
they thought it was them they needed to speak to, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
so Claire contacted her mum in the UK to ask for help. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
Between them, Claire and her mum tried to get the matter sorted out. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Whilst we were making phone calls to On The Beach from the UK, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Gary and Claire were using their mobiles in Turkey, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
running up extortionate bills | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
trying to get information | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
with regard to moving them to somewhere, a decent hotel. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
The YouTravel rep arranged for the family to be moved to a three-star hotel | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
until a replacement four-star could be found. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
But this hotel wasn't all-inclusive | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
so the family had to fork out on food. But eventually... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
After being passed from pillar to post | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
for the three days, we got offered the Pasa Beach. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
When you walked into Pasa Beach, you knew it was a four-star. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
You had an overwhelming feeling, "Whoa, how good is this?" | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
It was lovely when you walked in. The staff were friendly. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
We sort of got butterflies, but these were nice butterflies. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
We were looking forward to moving over there. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
So they wasted no time and phoned On The Beach. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
'Said, "Yes, we'll have this hotel," and that's when the rep' | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
on the On The Beach line said, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
"The only thing is, you've got to pay an extra £1,000." | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
Hang on a minute, £1,000? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
So, having paid £1,900 for their holiday | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
they were now being asked to stump up a further grand | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
to get the four-star all-inclusive accommodation | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
they thought they'd originally booked. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
My heart just sank because I thought, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
"Where are we going to find this extra money?" | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
It was money that we didn't have at the time. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Help was at hand. Claire's mum offered to pay the £1,000. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
Claire and Gary decided they would dispute the additional money | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
with On The Beach when they returned home, and for now they moved | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
into the Pasa Beach Hotel and got on with enjoying their holiday. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
We'd got treated like royalty, basically. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
It was a total different atmosphere, wasn't it? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Yeah, it was like you'd gone on a different planet. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
It was like a traumatic experience to, like, heaven, basically. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
Back in the UK, Claire and Gary contacted On The Beach to complain. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
They asked the company to refund the £1,000 they'd had to pay | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
for the hotel, plus around £500 they had to spend on meals | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and phone calls in Turkey whilst trying to sort things out. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
When they got back in contact eventually, it was from YouTravel | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
and not from On The Beach. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
On The Beach had passed the couple's complaints to the hotel provider, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
YouTravel, who offered the couple £555 in compensation. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
But, believing they were £1,500 out of pocket, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
the couple turned this offer down, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and they still haven't got what they feel they're entitled to. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Claire and Gary's holiday sounds like it was stressful | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
from start to finish, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
and even though they're back now it's still not over | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
because they're more than a grand out of pocket! | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
But I'm on the case now, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
so let's see if I can bring back some of that holiday cheer! | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
On The Beach was founded in 1995. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
It is one of the UK's leading online travel agencies, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
accounting for over 750,000 holidaymakers every year. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
I'm keen to hear what they have to say | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
about Claire and Gary's experience | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
and I've made contact with the company | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
to let them know I'm on the case. I've outlined the family's situation | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
and hopefully I'll hear back from them soon. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Some things in life we expect to pay for up front - | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
cinema tickets and holidays, for example. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Other things you never would, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
like loft conversions or a meal. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
But what if you found out you had to pay up front | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
for the privilege of borrowing money? I smell a rat. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
And that's exactly what happened to Jorge Santos | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
when he decided to take out a loan to buy a new car. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
This one gave me the option of three years for £1,500. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
That's why I went ahead with it. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
So having found the right loan for him, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
he kept his fingers crossed and called the company. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Because of everything they were telling me over the phone, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
I was feeling confident that they were going to lend me the money. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
And, luckily for Jorge, he didn't have to wait long for an answer. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
They called be back on the same day. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
They told me that my £1,500 loan was approved. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
'I felt very relieved because they were telling me that' | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
they were going to approve my loan, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
I was counting on having my problems solved. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Jorge finally had some good news | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
but the company wanted more than his signature | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
before they handed over the cash. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
I never thought that I would have to pay anything up front, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
but when they asked me to give them the first payment, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
they said it would be a first instalment... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
first time that I had to pay something back, give them money, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
it would be the first instalment out of my... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
..my monthly instalment that I had to pay. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Paying out money in order to borrow some? Not an ideal situation | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
but one familiar to the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
who are just one of the many consumer organisations | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
who deal with complaints about upfront-fee loans. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
We receive a steady flow of cases about upfront fees | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
and what's known as credit broking. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
We get about 50 cases a month on this sort of subject. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
In Jorge's case, the company wanted an upfront payment of £100 | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
to be paid using an electronic money voucher. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Jorge took his cash and bought the £100 voucher, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
which he then submitted to the company's website. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Unlike credit or debit cards, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
there is no way of tracing or reversing this type of voucher. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
But, with the first instalment paid off, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Jorge waited to get his hands on the loan. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
The following day, I get a... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
This was always after I'd given them money, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
always the following day | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
'at 9am, they are phoning me back again, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
'saying, "Look, you have to pay a transfer fee,"' | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
which...they had to get that money to make the transfer into my account | 0:11:27 | 0:11:34 | |
and nothing came into my account. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
So Jorge has paid the first instalment and a transfer fee | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
of £150, but still the loan hadn't been put into his account. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
The way they speak to you over the phone, like they nearly... | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
They nearly guarantee you that you are going to get the money, you know, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
if you pay that, you get the money, you know, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
so that's why I went ahead with it. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
And that wasn't the only upfront fee he had to pay. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
There followed a guarantor fee of £200 and an error fee of £300. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
It... It was a bad situation. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
'I was under financial pressure.' | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
I found myself in a bit of a difficulty. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
And each time Jorge paid a fee, he was told the costs were refundable | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
but if he didn't pay he would lose the money he had already given them. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
I didn't have that money and I told them I didn't have the money. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
They said, "Look, we can't help you with anything if you don't get that money." | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
This sounds really dodgy. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
If you enter into a loan agreement, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
so you go to somebody and they help arrange the loan, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
once you have actually entered into the loan agreement | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
you are usually obliged to still pay the fee | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
and won't normally be able to get that back. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Feeling he had no choice but to stump up the cash, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Jorge turned to his boss to borrow some money | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
and sent off another payment. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
They told me that this would be the last payment of 350 for the solicitor | 0:12:57 | 0:13:04 | |
and he would be at my door with all the amount of money to give to me. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
Sounds too good to be true. And that's what Jorge thought. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
When they told me the solicitor would be coming to my house | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
and he would be here in two hours' time | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
that's when I found it a bit strange, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
because, seeing that they aren't based in London, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
I found it a bit strange. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
'Although I still came home and I still waited,' | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
I was just desperately hoping he would come, you know, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
after the amount of money I gave to them. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Guess what - there was no knock at the door, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
but he continued to wait. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
I waited for the following day to see what was going to happen. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
'As soon as it struck 9am I had a phone call from them' | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
saying that I had to pay another £400. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
This payment of £400 would bring the total of upfront fees to £1,500. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
Hang on a minute! That's the same amount he wanted to borrow in the first place. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
It got to the point, saying, "I haven't got money for myself. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
"I have a family to take care of and everything. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
"I haven't got any more money. I can't give it." | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Jorge was desperate. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
He had no choice but to try and get his money back, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
but guess what again - he was then told that, not surprisingly, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
he would need to pay a cancellation fee of £120. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Jorge finally admitted defeat and refused to pay the £400 | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
and stopped all further payments. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
However, at this point he'd already shelled out £1,100 in fees | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
in exchange for a £1,500 loan which never even materialised. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
I spoke to my girlfriend and told her, "Look, we have lost that. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
"It's my fault. Let's just carry on." | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
'I don't know how I let myself get into all this.' | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
At this point I'm feeling... I'm feeling like a fool | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and I'm feeling also, you know, shocked with everything | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
'but of course if I have to look at it back | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
'I've got to say it was also my fault | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
'because we do hear about so many loan companies' | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
not complying with what they promised | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
and I go fall in the same trap as what we hear, you know. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:29 | |
And unfortunately for Jorge, he's not the only one to come a cropper. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
Neil from Staines also e-mailed me. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
He had to pay upfront fees of £420 to process a five grand loan. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
When Neil asked for his money back, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
the company demanded a £75 cancellation fee. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
And Anika from Birmingham, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
who in the lead-up to Christmas applied for a £3,000 loan. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Anika ended up paying £350 in process and error fees | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
but when she refused to pay any more and asked for a refund, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
she never received a penny. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
But how can lenders get away with this? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
Are there no rules and regulations? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Loans are covered by the Consumer Credit Act 1974. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
There is nothing illegal about upfront loan fees in themselves | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
so people can arrange a loan for you and charge a fee for that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
The problem arises if actually no loan is then arranged. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
Legitimate companies can charge an upfront fee, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
but they have to tell you in advance about them | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and, of course, have to give you your loan. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Sadly, in Jorge's case, none of that happened | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and he got drawn into what seems to be a scam | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
that left him £1,100 worse off | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
without any hope of seeing his money again. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
So what can you do to stop yourself falling victim? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Do the research yourself. There's an awful lot of information online. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
Shop around, think carefully | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
before you decide whether you need someone to help you with that | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and whether you want to pay an upfront fee for that. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
But it's really important that people understand what that fee is | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
and they think very carefully whether it is right for them before they go ahead. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Jorge decided not to take any action against this loan company | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
but if you find yourself in a similar situation | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
you could take your complaint to the FOS. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
The Financial Ombudsman Service | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
is here for anybody who has a problem with a financial product. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
'We're here to look at things independently' | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
and see if we can help put things right. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Although there was a time when "being upfront" meant being honest | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
and frank, when it comes to borrowing money these days, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
it can mean exactly the opposite. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
So remember, before you shell out, do a bit of research. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Make sure you don't get done. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
The Saunders family contacted me | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
after their holiday didn't get off to the relaxing start they hoped. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Having saved up for a £1,900 | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
all-inclusive four-star two-week break in Turkey, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
they were left sorely disappointed with the hotel. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
The pool was that dirty, you couldn't see the bottom of the pool! | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
And when they were finally moved to a suitable alternative | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
they then had to shell out a further £1,000, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
which they had to borrow from their parents back in the UK. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
From us worrying how to pay the money back for all the extras | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
that we had to pay for, luckily we have parents that help us out. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
'I've already contacted On The Beach to try and get to the bottom of this | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
'and let them know I'll be the one dealing with things from now on.' | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
On The Beach have got back to me | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
stating that they've forwarded a letter to Mr and Mrs Saunders | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
from their hotel provider, a company called YouTravel, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
and in that letter it states that | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
they would give a full refund for the Hotel Pineta. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Well, it was a step in the right direction | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
but it still left the family out of pocket. As we know, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
the couple had never heard of the hotel provider YouTravel | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
until they complained about the Hotel Club Pineta. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
And what should have been a simple complaints process became complicated. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
We wanted something from On The Beach, really, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
because that's who we'd booked with, not YouTravel. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
OK, so flights, accommodation | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
and transfers were all booked through On The Beach. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
That sounds to me like a package holiday. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
And, if so, Claire and Gary should be protected by | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
the Package Travel Regulations. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
These mean that the company who provides your package holiday | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
has a responsibility to provide the elements of your holiday | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
in line with what you've paid for. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Certainly sounds to me like they should have been covered. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
I think it's time I got in contact with On The Beach. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
I've sent them another e-mail | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
asking them who is actually responsible for what went wrong, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
and why they've forwarded the couple's complaints to YouTravel | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
when the couple were of the firm belief | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
they had bought an On The Beach package holiday. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Now, when Claire booked her holiday, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
she felt reassured that On The Beach was a member of ABTA, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
the Association of British Travel Agents, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
and this would mean even more protection. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
We went with On The Beach because it was ABTA and ATOL protected | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and that gave us a peace of mind that, no matter what, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
we'd have help if we needed it. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
'Well, I've come to meet the association's Sean Tipton | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
'to try to get a clearer picture | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
'of what Claire and Gary should be entitled to.' | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Sean, nice to see you. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
Can you explain to our viewers about Package Travel Regulations? | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Package Travel Regulations were a law that came in in 1992, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and basically it was an attempt at the time | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
to ensure that all holidays for people travelling abroad | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
would have to be financially protected | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
and also the travel companies selling them | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
would have to take responsibility for every aspect of the holiday. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
OK, let's explain the difference | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
between a package holiday and a non-package holiday, because | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
I've found, speaking to people, they're not really sure. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
It's not crystal clear for them. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
There is a legal definition for a package holiday. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
If you booked a flight, plus accommodation, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and it's all sold at an all-inclusive price by one company, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
you get one invoice through | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and your contract is very clearly with one company, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
that's a classic package holiday. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Which sounds like what Claire and Gary had booked, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
but, sadly, it's not that simple. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Because of the internet, it's very easy to book a hotel with a company | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
and then say, "Could you get me a flight?" | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
And that isn't necessarily a package | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
but it's very important that the company selling it, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
if it's not a package, make that very clear to you, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
so you know from day one | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
that it's two separate things you're talking about, rather than a package. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
Obviously something was amiss | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
when Claire and Gary Booked their holiday with On The Beach. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
With that in mind, I've asked them | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
to take another look at their holiday information | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
and the On The Beach website to see if they DID book a package holiday. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
The only thing that was wrong with the package holiday | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
was the first hotel. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
The flights were fine. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
I believe it was a package holiday | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
because you booked everything with one company | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and paid one price to that company. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
How about what it says in the small print? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
"On The Beach Ltd", it says there straightaway. "Ltd". | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
"As an online travel agent, we don't sell package holidays..." | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
Hold on. If they don't sell package holidays, what did we get? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
A package holiday! | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
We made our own holiday, they're saying, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
so we purchased off other people through them. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
"We do not sell package holidays. We let you build your own | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
"by giving you access to our wide range of cheap flights, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
"hotels, and transfer." | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-So that's saying that we didn't buy a package holiday. -No. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
So we've made a boo-boo. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
So, both the On The Beach website | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
and the couple's paperwork do state they don't provide package holidays. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Unfortunately, the couple didn't realise this. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
But are Claire and Gary alone in their confusion | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
or is this something other holidaymakers experience? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
The man to tell us is Frank Brehany, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
MD of the consumer organisation Holiday Travel Watch. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
The problem for consumers when they buy these holidays | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
is that they're not being given | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
very clear information about what the product is about. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Holiday companies are marketing on these beautiful websites | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
what looks for all intents and purposes to be package holidays. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
But when consumers have a problem | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
they discover, in the terms and conditions, that small print | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
that what they bought isn't what they're getting. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
But, as we heard from ABTA, agents are expected to be clear | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
about what a consumer is actually buying. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Consumers go to agents because they trust their skill and care. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
The agent should actually be telling them what the differences are | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
between the package holiday or not the package holiday, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
what their rights are, what they're not getting. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Obviously, that doesn't seem to be playing out | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
in the world of the world wide web! | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
We've said now for a number of years | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
that actually the sale of these holidays on the internet | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
should be accompanied with a health warning notice. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
And I'm very pleased to be able to tell that the European Commission agrees with us | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
and the new law they're going to bring in to protect holidaymakers | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
is going to make sure that | 0:24:19 | 0:24:20 | |
holiday companies are going to put in such warning notices | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
so they know what they're buying at the time. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Which sounds great, but there are still loads of people out there | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
getting tripped up by companies using their small print and T&Cs | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
to fend off angry customers. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
'Holidaymakers should never give up the fight | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
'in relation to whether it's a package or not. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
'Because the courts actually' | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
don't just look at the terms and conditions. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
They'll look at the website, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
they'll look at what the consumer understood it to be, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
they'll look at the exchange of e-mails, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
so you can't just simply go on terms and conditions. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
It's the whole product. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
Thanks, Frank. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
Now, On The Beach do state they don't sell package holidays | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
on their web site and in their paperwork | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
but, as we've seen, Claire and Gary missed it and assumed | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
they were getting a package holiday, and they're not the only ones. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
I've heard from Tracey and her dad John, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
who booked a week's all-inclusive to Greece | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
with three other family members through Purple Travel. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
We just wanted a great family atmosphere - near the beach, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
good food, that kind of thing, really. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Everyone was so looking forward to it. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Shopping, and everything else, getting ready to go. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
So we were really, really looking forward to it. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
We were only going for a week | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
but, you know, it meant such a lot to us this year. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
But when the family finally arrived in Greece | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
they didn't get the welcome they'd hoped for! | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
We just dumped the bags, went to the reception desk, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
gave them the paperwork, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
and the guy said, "Sorry, we haven't got any rooms for you." | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
And you just stand there in shock, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
and go, "What? You've got no rooms? What are we supposed to do?" | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
The family was offered an alternative hotel | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
but it just wasn't suitable. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
There was a lot of drunk youths around the pool. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
We did go and look at the rooms. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
They expected all five of us to stay in this one room, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
where there was no clean shower area, no shower head, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
there was exposed wires in the bathroom area. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
'We were supposed to have two rooms in the original hotel,' | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
one which my mother and father were staying in | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and one which myself, my partner and my daughter were staying in. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
They phoned Purple Travel in the UK, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
who said they would try to find alternative accommodation | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
but, with night falling, they took matters into their own hands | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and booked into a self-catering hotel, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
paying almost £800 for the privilege. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
We booked the week in the hotel that we found | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
for the simple reason it was suitable for us. The only problem was, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
we then had to go out, breakfast, lunch and dinner, drinks, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
and buy that again. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
So, again, it's all extra expense we've had to pay out. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Tracey called Purple Travel | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
to tell them they had made their own arrangements. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I did ask if they were willing to pay for the hotel that we'd paid for | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
and she said that wasn't something she could deem over the phone | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
at that time, and that it would be dealt with when we get back | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
and we had to make a written complaint. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
And when they got back to the UK that's exactly what they did. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
We had lots of e-mails backwards and forwards from Purple Travel. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Basically they stated that it wasn't down to them, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and that it was down to another company. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
They were then sending e-mails | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
which were then getting back to Purple Travel, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
then coming back to us, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
and backwards and forwards for quite a while. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
One travel agent and a separate hotel provider - | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
does this sound familiar? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
After having to spend an additional £1,500, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
the family was offered £150, which they rejected. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
I didn't even contact the rest of the family | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
to tell them we'd been offered it | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
because I did actually think it was a bit of an insult. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
I re-sent back the e-mail to Purple Travel and told them that | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
they should look into it a bit further, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
because £150 out of what all we spent was a bit of a joke. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
'After the initial correspondence with Purple Travel, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
'and then backwards and forwards for three weeks with e-mails' | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
we got a second offer. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Which was the grand amount of £453.31! | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
And they actually stated that | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
that would be their final offer for our holiday. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Just like Claire and Gary, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
Tracey and John felt they'd had to pay extra to get the holiday | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
they thought they'd originally booked, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
and I've dropped Purple Travel an e-mail to ask them | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
why they won't pay for the alternative hotel. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Let's see what they come back with. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
Meanwhile, I'm back to looking at Claire and Gary's case | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
with On the Beach. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Now, interestingly, if your holiday company is a member of ABTA, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
like On The Beach are, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
the hotels they advertise must be accurately described. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Yet when Claire and Gary arrived at the Hotel Club Pineta in Turkey, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
it certainly didn't live up to its description as a four-star, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
with tired carpets and toilet roll all over the floors of the bathroom. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
We've done a bit of research | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
and, if you look at On The Beach's website, at Club Hotel Pineta | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
in Marmaris, they rate it as a three-star. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Hold your horses a minute. When the couple booked the hotel, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
they thought it was a four-star. How come? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
If you go back to the time when they booked their hotel, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
here's their advert. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
"Club Hotel Pineta - four-star". | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
Not only that - in a letter sent to the couple from On The Beach, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
their hotel provider, YouTravel, is quoted as saying, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
"The Pineta is rated officially as a three-star property," | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
'which begs the questions, why was the travel agent advertising it | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
'as a four-star when the supplier says it's a three? | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
'And, more importantly, that meant Claire and Gary paid | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
'for what they thought was a four-star hotel. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
'Time to check in with On The Beach.' | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
On The Beach have asked us to deal with their PR company. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Their PR company, once they looked at the facts, have made an offer. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
However, I don't think it's good enough. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
So it's time to give them a call. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
'It's not long before I get through to the person I need to speak to.' | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Gathering by the name of your PR company and the initials, | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
you're the MD there, aren't you? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
'I've got the boss of the PR company on the line | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
'and he's asked us not to use his voice - fair enough. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
'But I've still got plenty I want to ask him.' | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
The Pineta, that was the first one they went to, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I don't know if you've seen the photos but they're pretty horrific. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
'He tells me that the hotel is popular with holidaymakers | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
'and has a cheap and cheerful atmosphere.' | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
Unfortunately, I don't think | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
four stars should go hand in hand with cheap and cheerful, myself. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
'Here comes my trump card.' | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
When this couple bought this holiday, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
On The Beach were advertising it with four gold stars. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
It's now gone down to three. I wondered if On The Beach | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
or yourselves can give us a response to that? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
'I certainly hope so, because I think this is a crucial fact in this case.' | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
I quite admire the fact they have downgraded it | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
as long as they're prepared to acknowledge the fact | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
that as far as Claire and Gary are concerned | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
they weren't getting what they thought they were. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
'And when I was looking through the correspondence | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
'between YouTravel, the hotel provider, and On The Beach, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
'something else has jumped out at me.' | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
I've also found out that | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
YouTravel offered a different hotel called the Seray | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
but that was never, ever offered to Mr and Mrs Saunders | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
and, had it been, that probably would have been acceptable. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
So it seems there has been a miscommunication there. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
YouTravel say they made this offer of another hotel to On The Beach | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
but the couple say | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
On The Beach never told them about this other hotel. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Miscommunication or not, it's now up to On The Beach to sort it out. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
When you look around you, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
we are bombarded with adverts from companies | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
promising us everything in the world | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
to try and get us to part with our hard-earned cash. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
It could be two-for-one offers, discounted deals | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
or once-in-a-lifetime opportunities. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
And I'm not the only one to think so... | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Every five seconds we see an advert everywhere - on TV, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
radio, newspaper, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
billboards, leaflets - there's advertising everywhere. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
I tend to ignore them, to be honest. If the programme has adverts on | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
I'll record it and then fast-forward though the adverts, cos I hate watching adverts. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
I have bought something before which I have seen on the advert | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
and I thought, wow, that is amazing, that's the best thing... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
However, not all products deliver on their promises. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
It turned out it wasn't quite as amazing as I thought it was from the advert. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
It's an all-too-familiar story | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
for the Advertising Standards Authority, or ASA. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
We receive about 30,000 complaints every year. The majority | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
of those complaints relate to misleading advertising, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
where people feel they have been misled | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
in their purchase of a product or a service. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
The role of the ASA is to ensure that claims made | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
in adverts can be made to stand up so that we consumers aren't misled. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
Consumers should expect to trust what they see and hear in ads | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
and it is the advertiser who is responsible for all the claims that they make within them. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
However, it seems not all companies are delivering on the claims | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
or promises they advertise, if my inbox is anything to go by. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
I've had an e-mail from a lady called Cheryl, who tells me | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
she wanted a new saddle for her horse. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
She found a company online who offered a satisfactory fit | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
or your money back. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Now, in Cheryl's case, she didn't think it was a satisfactory fit | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
and went back to the company - but they refused to give her a refund. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
All advertisers need to be clear and upfront about their offers | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
and if there are any significant limitations to those offers | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
they should be made clear in the ad. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
But what if there aren't any significant limitations? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
If it's as simple as saying that a full refund will be given | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
irrespective of the time frame, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
then I think there is the potential for that ad to be misleading. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
For Cheryl it was the money-back guarantee that really | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
appealed to her and made her spend her hard-earned cash. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Cheryl gave the company numerous opportunities to adjust | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
the saddle but each time it came back it still wouldn't fit properly. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
Eventually she took it to an independent expert who told her | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
that the build of the saddle was fundamentally wrong | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
and that it was never going to be a good fit. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
Therefore, in order to live up to their promise of a satisfactory fit | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
or your money back, the company should have given Cheryl a refund. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
And it seems it's not just Cheryl who was won over by advertising. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
My inbox is full of e-mails from those of you who have been swayed | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
by promises of free trials of health | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
and beauty products with online adverts. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Take Di's e-mail here - | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
she came across a company who promised a beauty product worth £49 | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
for just £3.95 postage and packaging. What a bargain! | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
So Di snapped it up. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
But when she checked her credit card bill at the end of the month | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
she'd been charged £100 - not such a pretty deal after all. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
The company Di had contacted, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:05 | |
Dead Sea Beauty, are one of thousands offering trials like this. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
Trials are a legitimate way of incentivising consumers | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
to take advantage of a product. The problem occurs where significant | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
limitations of the trial offer is not made clear to consumers. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
Fortunately, the ASA have the power to take action | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
against companies whose advertising isn't clear enough. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
And in the case of Dead Sea Beauty that's exactly what they did. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
In this case, we considered that the ad was misleading | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
because the ad did not make clear that if the beauty products | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
were not returned within 30 days then they would be liable for a subscription. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
So in this case we thought it was misleading. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
We have requested a statement from Dead Sea's parent company, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
DS Advertising, allowing them | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
to comment on the issues raised in Di's e-mail to me. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
And also I pointed out that she wasn't the only person | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
who had written to me about their free trials | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
and subsequent subscription withdrawals. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
DS Advertising has not yet responded. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
As consumers, what should we be looking out for? | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
The company needs to be upfront | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
and clear about the full nature of the offer. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Be warned, companies, it's not just me keeping an eye on your promises. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
Advertisers always have | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
and always will show their products in their best light | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
but they shouldn't exaggerate what their products or services should do. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
If we find that an ad hasn't stuck to the rules then | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
we can withdraw that ad | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
and we can make sure that it doesn't appear again in the same form. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
I've taken on the cases of Claire and Gary and Tracey and John, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
who both had holiday troubles and are not satisfied | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
with how they were treated by their travel companies. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
So that's two families who thought they'd booked a package holiday | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
and then found out they hadn't, | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
but then had to pay extra money | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
to stay in the same standard of hotel | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
that they thought they had booked in the first place. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Well, I've been in touch with both On The Beach and Purple Travel | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
in the hope I can get some of this money back. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
We went all-inclusive just simply so that we had everything paid for, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
you had nothing else to worry about. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
And then when we got home we had to find some way of paying | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
that money back. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
We had obviously already paid for the first one | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
and I'd explained this to Purple Travel at the time, on the phone. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
But the lady said to me, "There's not really a way we can deal with this now. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
"It would have to be dealt with when you get back off your holiday." | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Purple Travel have told me that, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
while they apologise for the customer's dissatisfaction, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
they have to allow time for a hotel provider to find alternative accommodation. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
So if you're in dispute you need to give a company time to put it right. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
If you have to - book yourself into a hotel for just one night. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Any more and you could be jeopardising your legal rights. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
Tracey and her family booked themselves into a hotel | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
for the rest of their stay... not giving Purple Travel or | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
the hotel provider enough time to put things right. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
We actually needed somewhere to stay for the night. Obviously we had | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
no alternative but to book. But we had to book them for the week. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
Purple Travel is still upholding its offer for £453 | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
but it's not the news Tracey and John were hoping for. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
For Purple Travel to have offered us, you know, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
basically the hotel cost back is very disappointing. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Because, you know, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
-we did pay out a lot more than what we're getting back. -Yeah. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
I suppose I can see it from their point of view, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
we went ahead and booked the extra hotel. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
We do understand the decision that has been made | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
and it has opened our eyes now | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
to the processes we would take for the next time. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
Definitely taught us a lesson, definitely. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
It's not the outcome Tracey and John wanted but regulations and | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
procedures are in place to protect both the company and the customer. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:03 | |
So what about On The Beach? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
Well, Claire and Gary had rejected an offer of £555 | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
from the hotel supplier YouTravel | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
because they felt they were out of pocket by more than £1,500. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
But the couple have been in touch to say they've been made another offer, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
so I've come to meet them to find out more. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
Will it be enough to banish the memory of | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
when they arrived at their first hotel in Turkey? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-Good to see you, guys. Are you all right? -Yeah. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Right - I tell you what, you're smiling and now you're smiling. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
Who is going to tell me the news? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
-Do you want to say it? -Yeah. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
We got our money back from On The Beach | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
and it's all going towards a new venture for us. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
-A new holiday...? -No. An extension to the house. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
-OK. -Loft conversion. -Something a bit more permanent than a holiday? OK. -Yes. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
'It's taken over 18 months but they have finally got a full refund | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
'for the £1,000 spent on the alternative hotel, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
'plus all their other out-of-pocket expenses - a total of £1,523.46.' | 0:40:05 | 0:40:12 | |
-So are you happy? -Definitely. -Very happy. -Are you sure? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
We spoke to both On The Beach and YouTravel asking for a final word. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
YouTravel explained how they... | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Claire and Gary declined this offer and it had now been replaced | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
by the larger settlement offered by On The Beach. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
On the Beach told us how they | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
sincerely apologise, as they did not deal with the complaint in a swift | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
and efficient manner and they would like to highlight that... | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
They also tell us that: | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
And, most importantly for me, they also told me | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
they have downgraded the star rating of the Club Hotel Pineta. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
And as for the Club Hotel Pineta, we contacted them | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
and invited them to respond to the issues raised in the programme. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
They told us: | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
And on top of that... | 0:41:24 | 0:41:25 | |
Which is good news for Claire | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
and Gary and they can finally put their holiday woes behind them! | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
We were just getting fed up, to the stage where we thought, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
they are going to win. We were not happy in that | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
but we thought, we're going to give up otherwise we will | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
-get more and more stressed. -Yeah. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
So thank you very much, Dom, for helping us out. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Thanks for bringing it to the attention of everybody. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
I'm very happy for Claire and Gary, as things have finally worked out in their favour. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
But it has highlighted a few points we all need to be very aware of. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
And in particular the importance of knowing | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
whether or not you are booking a package holiday, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
and, if not, exactly who is responsible | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
for each element of that holiday. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Well, I thought that was it, show over, job done, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
shut the door on your way out, turn the lights out. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
But then I got some surprising news... | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
Since we last met them, there has been a development for Tracey and John. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
We've got an updated letter from Purple Travel, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
saying that basically that they would like to give us | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
an extra £2,000 so we're not so badly out of pocket. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
-Very, very happy now. -Yeah. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
-It has actually made the day. -Yeah. Very good. Thank you, Purple Travel. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
Also, thank you, Dom, because this would not have happened without him. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
I don't half love surprises! | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 |