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'My name is Dominic Littlewood

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'and I'm passionate about taking on your consumer battles.

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'In fact, taking companies to task has become my aim in life.'

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I'm looking for about £20,000 to sort this out once and for all.

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'Big or small, no company is excused from my quest to ensure

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'that you guys get what you're entitled to.'

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Wait for them to ring me back. Ooh, so frustrating!

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'Whether it's getting your money back...'

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It was just unacceptable as a customer to be told no.

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'..or taking on your contract conundrums...'

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The response I got was not satisfactory

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because they failed to give me the information I asked for.

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I'm on your side.

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And today, I'm helping five people who are all feeling

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let down by a brand they thought they could trust.

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It was a reputable company.

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Massive. Everybody knows who they are.

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When you want to buy fast, fast, fast,

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but what you get is slow, slow, slow.

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They're sending out a lesser product

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than what they're actually advertising.

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I say if you don't correct, that means you accept.

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So what to do when the building work you've paid for isn't up to scratch?

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The standard a customer should be expecting

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should be the highest standard.

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I'm taking on your consumer problems to make sure you don't get done.

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When I was young, you'd go to a supermarket to buy,

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well, groceries, really.

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Nowadays, you can get just about anything and everything from them.

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You can get insurance, savings,

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internet, banking, car tyres, kitchens...

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Yep, you name it, they sell it.

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But is that such a bad thing?

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After all, they're a brand we can trust.

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Well, I've heard from several people who bought kitchens

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from Britain's largest supermarket chain, Tesco,

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but have experienced a catalogue of problems with them.

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Such as Donna Burns from Coventry,

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who decided to buy a new kitchen in September 2012

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after a family member left her some money.

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My old kitchen was about 20 years old

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and dilapidated and needed updating.

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A bit like me, Donna.

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So Donna went on to research kitchen companies.

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I had a look at all the big companies that supply kitchens, fit them,

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but I believed Tesco's was the one that stuck out for me.

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It was a reputable company. Massive.

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Everybody knows who they are.

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I really thought, "Oh, yeah, I can definitely trust them.

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"They'll do everything they can for me."

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So Donna booked an appointment with a designer.

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When the designer came, he had a booklet

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and he showed me the work surface so I could pick that,

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an oven, a hob and an extractor fan.

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It all seemed so perfect, so Donna went ahead with the order.

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But when the company began fitting the goods,

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the workmanship fell well short of Donna's expectations.

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There weren't cupboard doors,

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the plug sockets were crooked and were hanging off the wall.

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The plastering - well, a child could have done it better, literally.

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After the fitters had been and said they'd completed the job,

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they left and within about four hours of them leaving,

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there was a massive leak under the sink.

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They just hadn't plumbed it in properly at all.

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And there are two electric plugs under there

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and the water was actually spraying all over these plugs.

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And I was absolutely petrified

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because, obviously, water and electric do not mix.

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Too true. And having paid £6,500 for her kitchen,

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Donna wanted everything to be perfect,

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so she went back to the company to complain.

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But after eleven months and at least five revisits by the fitters

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to try to rectify matters, Donna is still not happy.

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When I ordered the kitchen, I presumed this cupboard

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would be right up to the edge of the wall, but it isn't.

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I had cornices made out of other cupboards

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and they're razor sharp.

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There's plaster all over the lights.

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This oven here was not what I ordered.

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It's been a problem since the day I got it.

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Burning, the element blew, the door seal's gone.

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I didn't order the extractor fan. It was a different one altogether.

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This all sounds familiar to Doug Fidler

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and his partner, Tina, from Milton Keynes.

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They spent £10,500 on their kitchen and were expecting the very best.

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When we chose a kitchen, we went with Tesco

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because it is a big brand, it's a big name.

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But no sooner had work got underway than alarm bells started to ring.

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It all started to go wrong partway through the first week

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when they sent the wrong parts.

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They put the corner cupboard up on the wall

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and they couldn't get the doors on,

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the doors were too thick for the cupboards to open up.

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And for about six weeks, we sat with no doors on the top cupboards,

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cupboards that wouldn't fit properly.

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And on the large breakfast area, they'd put two worktops on

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and they weren't even screwed down.

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Every time you knocked them, they moved.

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£10,500 down and eight months later, Doug is still not happy.

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Since the installers finished their particular part on the kitchen fit,

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we've had granite that's broken, granite that's been misplaced

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on the units where you can get your hands down the back.

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Cupboards that don't hang properly. We've had doors that keep dropping.

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Um...false promises on the lights.

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It's just... It just gets too much sometimes.

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Young parents Lindsay Hare and Chris Dunford from Littlehampton

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also felt let down by Tesco.

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They paid almost ten grand for their kitchen

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and were assured it would be fitted within a week.

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The end of the first week we were left with no washing machine,

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no sink, no cooker.

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This was quite difficult with a young son of four.

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And, six months after they ordered and paid for their kitchen,

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the couple are still left with a list of complaints.

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We've got a kitchen that's not finished,

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doors that don't shut properly or shut too hard,

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we've got plastering which isn't finished,

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therefore we can't paint the kitchen and enjoy it as a completed kitchen.

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And we've heard from more dissatisfied customers.

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Shirley Hughes from York had wanted a new kitchen for 25 years,

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but had never had the cash to pay for it.

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Now, finally, after receiving a generous redundancy package,

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it was within her sights.

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I finally decided on Tesco kitchens

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because Tesco's was a trusted name

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and you've far more faith in a trusted name

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that they're not going to run off with your money

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and not get the job done.

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Shirley had a whole list of requirements,

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one of which stood out above all others.

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My main priority was I wanted to have an extractor hood

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with ducting to get the steam out of the house

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because this is a very damp house.

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According to Shirley, once work got underway,

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the kitchen fitters failed to drill a hole in the wall

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to accommodate an extractor fan.

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They then tried to persuade Shirley

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that she never requested one in the first place

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and said she didn't even need one.

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I felt pretty sick that I was being told that I hadn't ordered something

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that I had made quite...specific

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that it was one of my main priorities.

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20 months after signing up for her kitchen,

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Shirley is still without a satisfactory extractor fan system

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and has kitchen tiles that she's far from happy with.

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All the tiling's terrible. It's haphazard, it's up and down,

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it's not...horizontal,

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and the grouting is just absolutely disgusting.

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It's certainly not the sort of state

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that I would expect a supposed professional tiler

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to leave the tiles in.

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And the customer complaints are not just about kitchens.

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Andrew Halliday from Wolverhampton

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paid £7,000 upfront for a Tesco bathroom,

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but the fitters measured the place incorrectly

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and when the bath and cabinets arrived they didn't fit.

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Andrew was also left without a flushable toilet for two weeks,

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even though he'd been promised

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the toilet would be replaced within one day.

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Understandably, Andrew got straight on the phone to Tesco.

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As did Lindsay and Chris, Shirley, Doug and Donna.

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I kept phoning, e-mailing,

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asking them what was going on, when they were coming out.

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And I never really got anywhere.

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And that's exactly why they've all contacted me.

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So we've got four unfinished kitchens,

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one unfinished bathroom and six unhappy customers.

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They've been e-mailing about their outstanding issues for ages now

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and some of their problems still aren't resolved.

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I've already sent an e-mail to Tesco,

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so now I think it's time to chase them up.

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I don't think Tesco's press office

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are going to be too pleased to hear from me.

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Hi, it's Dominic Littlewood from the BBC. Good afternoon.

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I'm phoning up about some complaints we've received

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about some of the Tesco kitchens.

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I've got a list of five of them.

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The press officer doesn't want us to broadcast her voice

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and tells me she can't give me any answers now.

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What's probably easiest, I won't ask any questions,

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I'll just give you some people's details.

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But she does promise to look into things and get back to me.

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That's quite typical of press offices.

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They like to say, "Get everything sent over via e-mail,"

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because they're very good at what they do.

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'So let's see what they come back with via e-mail.

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'And if they don't provide me with a satisfactory response,

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'I'll be getting back on the phone.'

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Us Brits spend £6 billion a year paying people to do up our homes,

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and we have every right to expect

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top-quality workmanship for our cash.

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So, what happens when the new look isn't the right look?

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You can potentially spend months chasing a company to put it right.

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So, how can we avoid this happening in the first place?

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Number one, do your research.

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Ask friends and family to recommend building firms

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who have done work for them.

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Talk to the builder's previous customers to see if all went well,

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and get quotes from at least three different builders

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before making a decision.

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After all, the building firm you choose

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will be spending several weeks, or even months,

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working in your home.

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Mark Berkes is an instructor from Able Skills,

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who specialise in construction training.

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For him, any big project, be it new windows,

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a conservatory, or a refurb,

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should start with a specification list of the work you want done.

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With a specification of work, you know,

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a builder would come round and he would explain to the customer

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what is going to happen and how it's going to happen.

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If you're happy with that, then you can sign

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the specification of work and he should work to that.

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And that forms part of your contract with the fitters.

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The specification of work will list everything

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that the builder or fitters will be doing during the job.

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Make sure you are happy it covers every detail

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and you know what you're getting into.

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The customer should ask questions like,

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"Are the areas going to be sheeted up and protected?

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"How many people might be working on site?

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"How much noise they might be creating,

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"what sort of finish, the duration of the job..."

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And it's not just the customer who should be prepared.

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Any reputable builder or fitter

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should also be asking themselves a few questions.

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When you take on jobs, you need to look at the job

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to make sure that things are level, square and straight.

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You also need to look at the area you're going to be working in,

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where you might get rid of any materials.

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Are you going to put it into a skip? Have you got a skip?

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OK. So the work is nearly finished.

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At this point, customers again need to be proactive

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and start drawing up a snagging list.

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A snagging list is generally for the slight little bits

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that are left over or not fitted correctly.

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So for an example, the handles might be loose,

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doors might be catching other doors, things might not be level.

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If you're unsure that something's not uniform,

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then you must bring it to their attention.

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That sounds prudent to me.

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So, how can you recognise

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when things haven't been fitted correctly?

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The next unit is not level with the previous unit.

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That must be level all the way across.

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It's not uniform. There are different gaps from the top to the bottom.

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Any gaps like that should be closed up.

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There's a gap all the way down there,

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so it's not been fitted very well

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and it's got chips along the bottom there,

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so it's not been cut very well.

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So anyone that wants to snag their own kitchen

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would be able to find these.

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And if you're still not sure?

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Go and look at the catalogue.

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If it's not the same as what's been fitted,

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talk to the builder and discuss the problems there and then.

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It's important to be vigilant as a customer

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before you let the fitters leave site,

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or before you make the final payment.

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But remember, a snagging list is not an excuse

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for additional work to be done.

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You should not put any additional works on your snagging sheet.

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If there are any additional works, then that's got to be costed for

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and, you know, labour costs and material costs.

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It's all about being clued up

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and having a clear paper trail between you and your builder.

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And there's one final thing that Mark is very clear on.

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The standard that a customer should be expecting

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should be the highest standard.

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If you're employing a professional builder,

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there shouldn't be any snagging whatsoever.

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And the moral of the story is make your voice heard,

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because if you don't correct, that means you accept,

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and you have every right to ask them to put right what's wrong.

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When these customers ordered a kitchen or bathroom through Tesco,

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they never imagined that, months down the line,

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they would still be waiting for outstanding issues to be sorted out.

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Doug has been left with ill-fitting cupboards and worktops.

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Donna's units have been poorly fitted

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and her appliances are not the ones she ordered.

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Lindsay and Chris still have an unfinished kitchen after six months.

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And Shirley is still waiting for her kitchen walls to be retiled

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and a fully-functioning extractor fan to be installed.

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I was made to feel as though this is as good as it's going to get.

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And what it is is not good.

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I've put all these complaints to Tesco

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and I'm waiting for a response.

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But, as I dig a little deeper, I discover that perhaps

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it's not Tesco that I should be speaking to at all.

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I was led to believe that it was Tesco's that do the fitting.

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It wasn't until some time later when the first fitter arrived,

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that I discovered that it was this company called Mark Two

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that are actually fitting the kitchens.

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And it wasn't just Shirley who was in the dark about this.

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When Donna called up to complain about the state of her kitchen,

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she was also told the person she was talking to didn't work for Tesco

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but for another company called Mark Two.

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I thought I was dealing with Tesco's.

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All the way through, I had,

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and then, all of a sudden, I'm being told it's Mark Two.

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So, who are Mark Two?

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Well, it turns out they're one of the largest distributors

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of kitchen and bathroom products in the UK.

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They've been around for 30 years

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and boast thousands of satisfied customers

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and complimentary testimonials.

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They're also licensed by Tesco to supply and fit the Tesco kitchens.

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But Donna and the others say that point was never made clear to them.

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They thought they were doing business with Tesco's

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because it was a name they knew, so therefore trusted.

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As for Mark Two, they'd never heard of them.

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We were under the impression when this was all going on

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that this was all done by Tesco's and that it was Tesco's fitters,

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Tesco's kitchens, Tesco's suppliers,

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but we found out that week that, er...

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we weren't actually dealing with Tesco's, we were dealing with

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a company called Mark Two. Never heard of them.

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Every time we phoned the call centre, it was answered Mark Two.

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We never once spoke to anybody who said they were from Tesco

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after the point of the salesman being here

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saying he was from Tesco's.

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I don't know how they can call it a Tesco kitchen.

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It should be a Mark Two kitchen

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because that is actually what it is.

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And there's nothing wrong with subcontracting work

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to a third party - companies do it all the time.

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The customers' complaint here is that it wasn't made clear to them

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that it was a company other than Tesco's

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who were supplying and installing their kitchen.

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So, where did the confusion come from?

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I've just pulled up Tesco Kitchens' website here.

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One of the first things you see underneath Tesco is, "Our kitchens."

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I say "our" because it's important.

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They then say, "What we do."

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As you scroll down, "We'll measure your kitchen.

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"We take the time to get to know you

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"and find out what's best for your lifestyle."

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"Our," "We'll," - all things that make you feel

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like you're dealing directly with Tesco.

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But from what their customers have told me, it seems pretty clear

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that it's Mark Two who are actually doing all the work.

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And, after my phone call to Tesco,

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they also appear to be doing all the clearing up.

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One week on from my phone call,

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Mark Two has been in touch with Donna

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and company director Richard Lee has driven to Coventry

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to see her in person.

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Richard discusses the issues Donna has had with her kitchen

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and offers a resolution which sounds promising.

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The way we've left it today

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is that Richard's going to send in the post

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all the things that he's going to put right in the kitchen.

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I'm going to wait for Richard's offer in writing,

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then I'm going to have a think about it.

0:18:420:18:45

I'm not really sure what I'm going to do yet, so I'll wait and see.

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It's a positive move, though, and over the next few days

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Richard also visits Doug and Lindsay and Chris.

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At least they've come round and bothered to do something

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this time and it does sound positive.

0:19:010:19:02

I do feel like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders a little bit

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after today's meeting, and perhaps we might get somewhere.

0:19:060:19:09

Today, Richard's in York to meet Shirley

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and hear first-hand about her experiences with the fitters.

0:19:120:19:16

Richard has asked not to be on camera,

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so we can only feature Shirley's side of the conversation.

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When he came, I have never seen such a...

0:19:210:19:26

stupid debacle about how he put the tiles on.

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The old tiles that he took off

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were ones that I had put on myself

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about 25-30 years ago.

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And the finish on them looked more professionally done

0:19:400:19:45

than how he had done the tiling.

0:19:450:19:49

Richard agrees to make sure the work is now carried out

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to Shirley's satisfaction

0:19:520:19:53

and promises to keep any disruption to a minimum.

0:19:530:19:57

He's also keen to discuss with Shirley

0:19:570:19:59

some recompense for all the problems she's had.

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But, like the others, Shirley wants to see something in writing

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before accepting any offer.

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I will be more positive

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when he's proved that he can...

0:20:110:20:14

come up with the goods.

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Mark Two is now responding quickly to their customers' complaints,

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but let's not forget that all of these customers

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have been waiting months for their kitchens

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and all of them feel they have not received

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the service they expected from Tesco.

0:20:280:20:31

I went with Tesco's because of the brand name.

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And I'm sorry that I did that.

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The complaint here isn't that

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the customers didn't want a kitchen made by Mark Two,

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it's that they thought they were dealing with Tesco.

0:20:430:20:46

So, how come none of these customers knew about Mark Two

0:20:460:20:50

until after they'd ordered and paid for their kitchens?

0:20:500:20:53

I've arranged to meet Shirley, Doug and Donna to find out more.

0:20:530:20:57

OK, let me just sum this up.

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Who did you think you bought your kitchen from, Donna?

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-Tesco's.

-Tesco.

-Tesco's.

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Who did you actually pay your money to?

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-Tesco's Direct.

-And it was definitely them?

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Definitely them. I had an electronic receipt.

0:21:100:21:13

OK. And was that the same in both your cases?

0:21:130:21:15

-Yes. Yeah.

-It was Tesco.

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-The fitters that came round, were they wearing uniforms?

-No.

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-So, they were in their own casual clothes?

-They were contracted.

0:21:200:21:23

-What about their vans? Did they have any livery on the side?

-No.

0:21:230:21:26

So, as far as you're concerned, they were Tesco fitters?

0:21:260:21:29

As far as I was concerned, everybody worked for Tesco's.

0:21:290:21:32

But when things started to go wrong

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and the customers tried to complain to Tesco,

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they were simply redirected.

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With each of the issues I've had,

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I've tried to get in touch with somebody at Tesco's themselves,

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but every time I tried to contact Tesco's

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they just referred me back to Mark Two.

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I couldn't get beyond Mark Two dealing with any of my issues.

0:21:520:21:58

Tesco's are advertising these kitchens

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and giving consumers peace of mind with the brochures and guarantee.

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They're not dealing with the problems,

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and they're leaving everything in Mark Two's hands.

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Not exactly what you've paid for at all, is it?

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You phone Tesco's and they say,

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"It's not our problem, it's Mark Two."

0:22:120:22:15

I had two calls to the executive officer at Tesco's

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and I spoke to two people there

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who said they would take up the problem

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and if I didn't get a call back, they would call me back

0:22:220:22:24

or if there was no reply, just phone them back.

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They didn't want to know.

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It's time for me to put in another call to Tesco

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to try to get to the bottom of this confusion

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between Tesco and Mark Two.

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But, first of all, I want to have a look at the Tesco Kitchens website

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and the Tesco Kitchens brochure

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to see whether there is any mention there of Mark Two.

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So on the website, there is a mention of them,

0:22:440:22:47

but it's in the small print right at the bottom of the page

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and, with all the glossy photos on the page,

0:22:510:22:53

it's easy to see why the customers missed it.

0:22:530:22:56

As for the brochure...

0:22:560:22:57

I've been through this brochure Shirley was given.

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It's lovely. It's glossy and it's quite thick.

0:23:000:23:03

But I've been through it back to front, inside out and upside down.

0:23:030:23:06

Nowhere in this brochure does it say

0:23:060:23:08

that these kitchens are not supplied by Tesco's.

0:23:080:23:10

Nowhere does it mention Mark Two.

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Even in the small print. Anywhere at all.

0:23:130:23:16

Now, I'm going to question that with Tesco's,

0:23:160:23:18

but just in case they say, "Ah, Dominic, that's an old brochure,"

0:23:180:23:21

what I've done, literally half an hour ago,

0:23:210:23:23

I went online and downloaded this one.

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To me, it looks exactly the same.

0:23:260:23:29

So, let's see what Tesco have got to say about that.

0:23:290:23:32

Morning. It's Dominic Littlewood

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from Don't Get Done Get Dom with the BBC.

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I've been trying to sort things out with this query

0:23:510:23:54

and the confusion with Tesco Kitchens

0:23:540:23:56

and I've got a couple of questions for you.

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I've got the copy that Tesco supplied two of the ladies

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that I'm helping out at the moment.

0:24:010:24:03

It's a lovely, glossy brochure, approximately 20-odd pages thick,

0:24:030:24:07

and I can't see on it anywhere at all a mention of Mark Two.

0:24:070:24:12

I can't see on there anywhere at all

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the fact that it doesn't actually say Tesco's fit these kitchens.

0:24:150:24:18

And it really does lead people to believe

0:24:180:24:21

that you are supplying and fitting these.

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What would you say about that?

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'The press officer takes down my questions, but declines to comment.

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'Mark Two is doing their bit to put things right for their customers,

0:24:310:24:34

'but I have plenty of questions for Tesco.'

0:24:340:24:37

With Mark Two, what I'd like to know is

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if they're fitting all your kitchens,

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what sort of checks are done on their quality of work?

0:24:430:24:45

And, as far as money is concerned, when a customer orders a kitchen,

0:24:450:24:49

who are they paying, Mark Two or Tesco's?

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'Before I go, there's one more thing I'd like to take up with Tesco.

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'When gas or electrical appliances are fitted in a home,

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'it's a legal requirement for fitters to provide certificates

0:25:000:25:03

'confirming that the work carried out meets UK safety standards.

0:25:030:25:07

'Neither Shirley or Donna were initially provided

0:25:070:25:09

'with these certificates.'

0:25:090:25:11

I'd like to double check, if certificates are given

0:25:110:25:14

in every single case, which ones are they?

0:25:140:25:16

'I've asked Tesco to get back to me by this afternoon

0:25:160:25:20

'and I've also suggested a meeting with them

0:25:200:25:22

'to get their side of things.'

0:25:220:25:24

Right, what I expected is what happened there.

0:25:260:25:28

He was a very nice guy, he wrote down every question I asked him.

0:25:280:25:32

He said, "I'll get you the correct response

0:25:320:25:34

"and send them back to you either e-mail or phone."

0:25:340:25:36

Fair enough. That's somebody being extra cautious.

0:25:360:25:38

But I've requested to meet with them.

0:25:380:25:40

I did suggest meeting in one of his own coffee bars.

0:25:400:25:42

He can have a couple of quid out of me, as well!

0:25:420:25:45

Right, let's see if I can get my answer this afternoon as requested.

0:25:450:25:48

There's nothing wrong with companies offering goods and services

0:25:490:25:53

that are supplied by a third party. It happens all the time.

0:25:530:25:56

But it's important that you, the customer,

0:25:560:25:59

know who the supplier is and who your contract is with.

0:25:590:26:02

'Shirley, Doug and Donna were quite clear

0:26:040:26:06

'about who they think their contract is with.'

0:26:060:26:09

Now that you're all unhappy with what you've received,

0:26:090:26:11

who do you think is accountable, Donna?

0:26:110:26:13

-I still think it's Tesco's.

-Ultimately Tesco's.

0:26:130:26:17

Tesco's are ultimately responsible.

0:26:170:26:19

And what does UK consumer law say?

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If you buy a product from a company or website,

0:26:230:26:25

who is your contract with?

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And if things go wrong, who should you complain to?

0:26:270:26:31

If you're buying something on a supermarket website, for example,

0:26:310:26:34

and you are paying that supermarket direct through their website,

0:26:340:26:38

then the contract is between you and the supermarket.

0:26:380:26:42

So that is a retail contract.

0:26:420:26:44

Your rights under law are against the supermarket

0:26:440:26:47

who is selling you that stuff, even if they may have a supplier

0:26:470:26:51

that is actually delivering the item direct to you in the background.

0:26:510:26:55

So, the law is clear -

0:26:550:26:56

if things go wrong and you want to make a complaint,

0:26:560:26:59

you should contact the company who sold you the product,

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and they in turn have a legal obligation

0:27:020:27:04

to sort things out for you.

0:27:040:27:06

So, why, after numerous phone calls and emails to Tesco,

0:27:060:27:10

were all our customers told it wasn't Tesco's responsibility

0:27:100:27:14

to sort the problems out,

0:27:140:27:15

it was the responsibility of Mark Two?

0:27:150:27:18

Well, it's now almost two weeks since my last phone call to Tesco

0:27:190:27:22

and I've just received an e-mail from them.

0:27:220:27:26

They said:

0:27:260:27:27

They also state that:

0:27:350:27:37

So I told them this brochure has no mention of Mark Two

0:27:460:27:49

and Shirley's bank statement shows she paid Tesco,

0:27:490:27:52

not Mark Two, for her kitchen.

0:27:520:27:55

What have they got to say about that?

0:27:550:27:57

Well, apparently nothing,

0:27:570:27:59

because I've been waiting almost a week and it's all gone silent.

0:27:590:28:02

So I've come to meet Damian Walters, the founder of

0:28:020:28:05

the Institute of Kitchen, Bedroom and Bathroom Installers.

0:28:050:28:09

Tesco is one of their partners and Mark Two are members,

0:28:090:28:12

so I'm hoping he can help me get to the bottom of this.

0:28:120:28:15

Why did your organisation need to be set up?

0:28:160:28:19

Simple, really. The size of the industry is massive.

0:28:190:28:22

It's a multibillion pound industry.

0:28:220:28:24

Very little regulation in terms of the kitchen,

0:28:240:28:27

bedroom and bathroom installers

0:28:270:28:29

that represent us out in the marketplace

0:28:290:28:31

and, quite simply, there was a growing number

0:28:310:28:35

of complaints received each year.

0:28:350:28:37

Give me a rough idea of how many complaints you get each year.

0:28:370:28:40

2011 and 2012 saw around £69 million worth of complaints

0:28:400:28:45

in our industry alone, which is ridiculous.

0:28:450:28:48

You're right, it is.

0:28:480:28:49

And it's a huge amount of money, hence the reason you set up.

0:28:490:28:51

One of the founding reasons, yeah, absolutely.

0:28:510:28:54

As far as being a member of the IKBBI,

0:28:540:28:57

what sort of regulations do they have to adhere to,

0:28:570:29:01

what sort of training do they have to have,

0:29:010:29:04

what sort of qualifications do you insist on?

0:29:040:29:06

We've put a set of criteria in place that our members need to meet

0:29:060:29:10

in order to become accredited with us.

0:29:100:29:12

And that involves things like looking at previous work,

0:29:120:29:15

we have an understanding of their history,

0:29:150:29:18

specifically within the KBB sector.

0:29:180:29:20

We look at things like their gas and electrical credentials -

0:29:200:29:23

very, very important -

0:29:230:29:25

and we guide them in terms of the roles and responsibilities

0:29:250:29:28

that they have in terms of gas and electrics.

0:29:280:29:31

So, anybody who works for Mark Two is a member of IKBBI

0:29:310:29:35

and has gone through all your accreditation processes,

0:29:350:29:39

-all your checks?

-Absolutely.

0:29:390:29:41

'And what about the confusion customers have experienced

0:29:410:29:44

'over who is actually providing and installing their kitchen?'

0:29:440:29:48

Everybody we spoke to bought a Tesco kitchen

0:29:480:29:51

-because it's a brand they knew and trusted.

-Yeah.

0:29:510:29:53

I've had a look at the brochure, back to front, inside out,

0:29:530:29:57

there's nowhere in that brochure any mention of the fact

0:29:570:30:00

it's not Tesco's who are supplying and fitting this kitchen,

0:30:000:30:02

it's a third-party company called Mark Two.

0:30:020:30:05

Unfortunate, not good enough,

0:30:050:30:06

something would need to be done about that.

0:30:060:30:08

And I think, yes, you're right,

0:30:080:30:10

clarity with the consumer is the most important thing.

0:30:100:30:12

If a customer doesn't know what they're getting into,

0:30:120:30:14

then the expectation element of kitchen installation

0:30:140:30:17

or bedroom or bathroom installation is wrong from the beginning.

0:30:170:30:21

'OK. And what about the fact that some of their customers

0:30:210:30:24

'have had to wait over a year for a kitchen

0:30:240:30:26

'which should have been completed within a week?'

0:30:260:30:29

We'd like to see a kitchen finished, start to finish,

0:30:290:30:32

-within a couple of weeks, you would say.

-OK.

0:30:320:30:34

That's broad brush, Dom, and if it's any longer than that,

0:30:340:30:37

then I'd be expecting to understand the reasons why.

0:30:370:30:40

And how can the IKBBI help if customers are not happy

0:30:400:30:43

with the service they've received from one of its members?

0:30:430:30:47

Bring that to our attention. We will look at individual instances

0:30:470:30:50

and we will give it immediate priority.

0:30:500:30:53

The growth of the industry

0:30:530:30:55

and everything that goes on with the industry

0:30:550:30:58

is actually very much dependent on consumers

0:30:580:31:00

going out and having trust in what we deliver as an industry.

0:31:000:31:04

If that isn't happening at any level,

0:31:040:31:07

then the first people the consumer should engage is their retailer.

0:31:070:31:11

And they have a legal right to ask the reason why.

0:31:110:31:14

Well, that all seems pretty clear.

0:31:140:31:17

Customers have a right to expect work to be carried out

0:31:170:31:20

to a high standard within a specified period of time.

0:31:200:31:23

It should be made crystal clear

0:31:230:31:25

who is going to be carrying out the work,

0:31:250:31:27

especially if it's been subcontracted to a third party.

0:31:270:31:30

And if anything goes wrong or you're not happy

0:31:300:31:33

with the finished product, you should complain to your retailer.

0:31:330:31:36

When I'm at home, I like to be able to walk around the house

0:31:420:31:45

while I'm on the telephone.

0:31:450:31:46

So if I ordered a cordless one and this arrived,

0:31:460:31:49

I'd be pretty disappointed.

0:31:490:31:51

And most of us, when we order something,

0:31:510:31:53

do so because we have a specific requirement.

0:31:530:31:56

But not always do we get what we want.

0:31:560:31:58

This is what happened to Nathan Birchall from Manchester

0:31:580:32:02

when he ordered an iPad from Littlewoods for his girlfriend.

0:32:020:32:05

I wanted to buy the iPad for Helen

0:32:050:32:08

because it was approaching her birthday

0:32:080:32:10

and that's something she'd always wanted.

0:32:100:32:13

At the time, I had a 3G phone

0:32:130:32:15

and most of the apps in the App Store

0:32:150:32:18

were no longer available for that device.

0:32:180:32:22

So I thought, right, well, I'll get one of the up-to-date ones,

0:32:220:32:27

you know, and that's why I picked the 4G one.

0:32:270:32:30

4G is the fourth generation of mobile phone technology.

0:32:300:32:34

While 2G was suitable for making calls and sending text messages,

0:32:340:32:37

3G made it possible to access the internet.

0:32:370:32:41

And 4G now offers a superfast surfing on mobiles,

0:32:410:32:45

tablets and laptops,

0:32:450:32:46

with download speeds up to seven times faster

0:32:460:32:49

than those for existing 3G networks.

0:32:490:32:52

The iPad Nathan bought could be used at home

0:32:520:32:55

through the couple's WiFi provider,

0:32:550:32:57

or you could insert a SIM card and use it out and about.

0:32:570:33:01

So Helen bought a 4G SIM card for her iPad

0:33:010:33:04

and prepared to get down to some superfast surfing.

0:33:040:33:07

But there was a problem.

0:33:070:33:08

I actually put the 4G SIM card into the iPad

0:33:080:33:12

and the 4G wasn't working on the iPad.

0:33:120:33:15

Assuming there was a problem with the network,

0:33:150:33:18

Helen called her mobile phone provider, EE.

0:33:180:33:21

They went through a series of trouble-shooting options with her,

0:33:210:33:24

but the iPad still didn't work.

0:33:240:33:26

She then called Apple, the makers of the iPad,

0:33:260:33:29

who asked her for the product's serial number.

0:33:290:33:31

Apple told me that the iPad wasn't the 4G version,

0:33:310:33:35

it was the 3G version.

0:33:350:33:37

And, obviously, I was very shocked to hear that

0:33:370:33:40

because my partner had paid for the 4G iPad.

0:33:400:33:45

Furious that he appeared to have been mis-sold a product,

0:33:450:33:48

Nathan got straight on the phone to Littlewoods.

0:33:480:33:51

They gave me two options.

0:33:510:33:53

Either return the item and get a full refund

0:33:530:33:57

or keep the item and they'd give me £48 off the original price I paid.

0:33:570:34:03

But Nathan wasn't happy with that.

0:34:030:34:05

He still wanted a 4G iPad,

0:34:050:34:07

so he asked them to send him the item he originally purchased.

0:34:070:34:11

But they wasn't interested in that.

0:34:110:34:12

They were saying, send the item back, get the full refund

0:34:120:34:15

then repurchase the one I originally purchased back in January.

0:34:150:34:20

But when I actually looked on the website,

0:34:200:34:22

it had risen in price by £120.

0:34:220:34:25

So it was, like, I'm paying £120

0:34:250:34:28

for their mistake of sending me out the wrong item.

0:34:280:34:31

Now, I didn't think that was very good,

0:34:310:34:34

so Littlewood got onto Littlewoods

0:34:340:34:36

and pointed out that his receipt clearly states

0:34:360:34:39

he had bought a 4G iPad.

0:34:390:34:41

And Littlewoods came back with this response:

0:34:410:34:45

Confused? I am. So I called Apple.

0:35:110:35:14

They told me that they do sell 4G iPads in the UK

0:35:140:35:17

and they are WiFi and cellular models.

0:35:170:35:19

They explained that if it's a cellular iPad

0:35:190:35:22

it will work on 4G.

0:35:220:35:23

Nathan had apparently bought a cellular iPad,

0:35:230:35:26

so I put this information to Littlewoods and they said:

0:35:260:35:30

Well, that's not much good to Helen and Nathan,

0:35:380:35:41

unless they're planning on moving abroad, which they're not.

0:35:410:35:44

So I sent one more e-mail to Littlewoods

0:35:450:35:47

asking them to reconsider their offer to Helen and Nathan.

0:35:470:35:51

And this was their response:

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"The iPad that Mr Birchall bought from us in January 2013

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"was compatible with overseas 4G networks,

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"but not with the limited 4G service offered in the UK at the time.

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"We accept that this could perhaps have been a little confusing

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"and to make things clearer,

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"we've since changed the wording on the site

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"to specify where the tablet is compatible only with 3G networks."

0:36:150:36:20

They also acknowledge that the reference to 4G

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on Nathan's receipt was an error on their part

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and apologise for any confusion this may have caused.

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"With that in mind and as a gesture of goodwill,

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"we'd like to offer Mr Birchall and his partner

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"a replacement 4G-compatible iPad

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"along with our best wishes."

0:36:410:36:43

Wow!

0:36:430:36:45

I feel fantastic about that outcome. That is brilliant.

0:36:450:36:48

I mean, you couldn't ask for more. Thank you very much.

0:36:480:36:51

I've got my original birthday present that I was meant to get in the first place.

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So Littlewoods have apologised

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and Helen and Nathan now have a brand-new iPad. Job done.

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With five complaints about Tesco's kitchens and bathrooms,

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ranging from poor customer service, bad workmanship

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and having to wait months for jobs to be finished,

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somehow, I knew I was going to have my work cut out on this one.

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Following an e-mail from Tesco,

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where they claimed they make it clear to customers

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that Mark Two do the installation work, payments are made to Mark Two

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and installers issue the relevant gas and electrical certificates,

0:37:300:37:33

I wrote back disputing each of these points.

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I've yet to receive a response.

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I have just made a discovery, though.

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When Tesco's customers were first given a brochure,

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this is the one they were given.

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And there's absolutely no mention on there at all of Mark Two.

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I went online and printed off their brochure.

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Again, there was no mention of Mark Two kitchens.

0:37:550:37:59

Well, since our involvement, I've been online again

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and I've just printed off their new brochure.

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And this time, in small print on the back, it says,

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"Tesco Kitchens are brought to you by Mark Two Home.

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"The goods you buy from Tesco Kitchens

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"will be purchased from Mark Two Home."

0:38:130:38:16

It seems they're taking my concerns very seriously.

0:38:160:38:20

Mark Two say every year:

0:38:200:38:22

Well, I'm back in Coventry again to meet Donna because I've heard

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there's been some good news with her kitchen.

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'Donna was unhappy with her appliances

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'and with the slapdash way she felt her kitchen units had been fitted.'

0:39:000:39:04

-Do you want to show it to me?

-Sure. Let's go.

0:39:060:39:09

'She has now had a complete refit

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'and an upgrade of her oven, fridge and hob.'

0:39:120:39:16

I've got to say, I can see a marked improvement already.

0:39:160:39:19

-Yeah.

-Lots of things which you had issues with before,

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the cornicing - that was all ugly and stuck out and had sharp edges.

0:39:220:39:25

-Yes, it was.

-Are you happy with that now?

-I am, yes.

0:39:250:39:27

-It certainly looks and feels a lot better.

-It does.

0:39:270:39:30

-Your appliances have been changed.

-They have.

0:39:300:39:32

-Also, there was a problem over there, wasn't there?

-Yes.

0:39:320:39:35

There was a big gap there.

0:39:350:39:37

So they've put an infill there for me, which is a lot better.

0:39:370:39:41

Yeah. And something that should have been done right from the start.

0:39:410:39:45

-Sink been sealed?

-Yes, it has, yeah.

0:39:450:39:47

-Lights round here?

-They've been cleaned up.

0:39:470:39:51

Is there anything here which you're not pleased with?

0:39:510:39:54

-No. I'm actually happy with what I've got now.

-Yeah.

0:39:550:39:59

What I've paid for. I'm glad, yeah, I really am glad.

0:39:590:40:02

And Donna's not the only one.

0:40:020:40:04

Doug has also accepted an offer from Mark Two,

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but we've been asked to keep the exact amount confidential.

0:40:070:40:11

They're giving me back my money.

0:40:110:40:13

It's more than I ever asked for in the beginning,

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but I think, after the length of time...

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You know, nine months is a long time to have a kitchen fitted,

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and I think that is a fair settlement for that length of time.

0:40:220:40:25

I am very grateful to Dom,

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but I'm also very grateful to Richard Lee, I have to say that

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because the guy's come in,

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he's taken me on face value and he's worked with me.

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After being left without a functioning toilet

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and units that didn't fit,

0:40:400:40:42

Andy has been told his bathroom will be redesigned

0:40:420:40:45

and refitted to the correct standard.

0:40:450:40:47

Lindsay and Chris have also received an offer

0:40:470:40:50

and, while Mark Two don't want to reveal the exact details,

0:40:500:40:53

it's safe to say the customers are happy.

0:40:530:40:56

Most of the reparation work they're going to do is above and beyond.

0:40:560:41:00

It's going to be better than it would have been

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even before the kitchen was installed.

0:41:030:41:05

We are starting to see a potential light at the end of the tunnel.

0:41:060:41:10

Well overdue, but if things can be finished off

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within the next three to four weeks, then I think we'll be happy.

0:41:140:41:19

And Shirley, who was left with badly-tiled kitchen walls

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and an unsatisfactory extractor fan,

0:41:230:41:25

has also received and accepted an offer from Mark Two.

0:41:250:41:29

I'm happy with the outcome he's offered me.

0:41:300:41:32

If I hadn't got Dom involved,

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I don't think I would have managed to achieve any of this,

0:41:340:41:38

because I think it's Dom's clout that's bringing all this to light.

0:41:380:41:45

Thank you, Shirley.

0:41:450:41:46

I'm really glad things are moving in the right direction

0:41:460:41:49

and the customers are finally on the verge of receiving

0:41:490:41:51

their dream kitchen, bathroom or compensation.

0:41:510:41:54

-So you're a happy bunny.

-I am.

0:41:540:41:56

-Is my job done?

-It is. Thank you so much.

0:41:560:41:58

Did they give you any compensation?

0:41:580:42:00

650 they gave me, yeah.

0:42:000:42:02

Good. So a little bit of a bonus.

0:42:020:42:03

-Absolutely.

-What are you spending that on?

0:42:030:42:06

-Tiles.

-And a bit of paint.

0:42:060:42:08

Yeah! And a bit of paint.

0:42:080:42:10

-And the job will be done.

-Exactly! Yeah.

0:42:100:42:13

OK. Donna, time for me to say I'll love you and leave you.

0:42:130:42:16

-Oh, thank you, Dom.

-Ciao, sweetie.

-Ciao.

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It's always great when I can help a whole group of people like that,

0:42:200:42:24

especially when they've spent their hard-earned cash on a product

0:42:240:42:27

and not got what they paid for.

0:42:270:42:29

So Mark Two have finally come up trumps.

0:42:300:42:33

And I've received a statement from Tesco which says:

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