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'My name's Dominic Littlewood

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'and I'm passionate about taking on your consumer battles.

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'In fact, taking companies to task has become my goal in life.'

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I'm looking for about £20,000 to sort this out once and for all.

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'Big or small - no company is excused from my quest to ensure

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'that you get what you're entitled to.'

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Have to wait for them to ring me back... Oh, so frustrating!

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'Whether it's getting your money back...'

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It was just unacceptable as a customer to be told no.

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'..or taking on your contract conundrums...'

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The response I got was not satisfactory

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because they failed to give me the information I asked for.

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'..I'm on your side.'

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'On today's show,

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'the motoring organisation that left one of its customers high and dry.'

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I just still cannot believe that they would come out

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to a 19-year-old lad who has broken down

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and decide that their position was

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that they were just going to drive away and leave him.

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'We show you how to navigate the knotty world of insurance.'

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Always check the small print and always check that you are getting covered, basically!

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'And the battle that boiled over for one energy provider's

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'long-suffering customer.'

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I was getting really frustrated

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and annoyed that I had been paying these monthly instalments

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for them to repair my boiler and they weren't doing it.

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I'm taking on your consumer problems to make sure you don't get done!

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If you saw a crime, an accident or a fire,

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you'd know who to dial, right? 999.

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But what about if it was one of those other emergency services?

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You know, like your house flooding, getting locked out,

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or even your car breaking down.

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Well, from plumbers to locksmiths to car recovery services,

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there's somebody out there to cover every eventuality.

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But I've heard from someone whose emergency service

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DIDN'T live up to its reputation.

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'Meet Mark Endacott.

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'He lives in York with his girlfriend,

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'but makes frequent trips down to Devon to visit his family and

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'he's written to me about a problem

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'he's had with his breakdown service.'

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They'd always been there when it had been something local,

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within ten miles they'd bring us back no problem,

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but as soon as it's the big one, the one that you actually WANT them for

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and NEED them for, that's when they let us down.

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'That day in March 2012, 19-year-old Mark was driving down to Devon

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'to help out on the family farm.'

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It's a sheep farm, so I've got to come down

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and help Dad with the lambing cos it's pretty full-on.

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'It can involve a lot of night shifts,

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'being up at three/four o'clock in the morning sometimes.

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'It's a lot of work.'

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'The journey from York to Mark's village of Spreyton, near Exeter,

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'is over 300 miles and takes around five hours.

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'Mark set off at lunchtime, hoping to be there for early evening.

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'But no sooner had he hit the dual carriageway,

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'than he ran into difficulty.'

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I got about 300 yards down the A64 when I realised that I'd lifted off

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the accelerator, but the car was continuing to speed up

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and me engine was just going crazy,

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it was revving up at 5,500rpm, maxing out.

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So I pulled off onto the hard shoulder,

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put my hazards on and turned the engine off

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and the engine continued to rev even when I pulled the key out,

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which was also quite worrying!

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'Eventually the engine stopped with a bang...'

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'..leaving Mark stranded on the hard shoulder.

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'But at this stage, he wasn't unduly worried.'

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At that point I was very glad to know that... "It's all right,

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"I've got an RAC card in me wallet, I've got the number there,

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"I can ring 'em and it shouldn't be too long

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"before I'm back on me journey."

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'Mark's dad Roy had taken out a family policy with the RAC,

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'which included everything from Home Start and Roadside Assistance

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'to the promise that if your car couldn't be fixed,

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'the RAC would take you and it to a destination of your choice

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'anywhere in mainland UK.'

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We took out the package that provided all the bells and whistles

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that would just mean that if anything went wrong,

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they would bring whoever it was and their car home safely.

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So that just gave peace of mind to parents who were just

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concerned with 17-year-olds out on the road.

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'Mark put in a call to the RAC and two hours later a mechanic arrived.

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'Unfortunately, his prognosis for Mark's car wasn't good.'

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He asked whether I'd put oil in the car and I hadn't,

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I'd checked the oil level, it was fine.

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And then he... He proceeded to tell me that

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he thought there WAS too much oil in the car and that as such,

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the engine had run off and the turbo had broken,

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all the turbo fins gone through the engine

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and destroyed the engine, really.

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'The mechanic decided the best course of action would be to take

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'the car to a local garage in Leeds to see if they could fix it.'

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'Unfortunately, the garage concluded that the engine was beyond repair

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'and that Mark would need a new one to complete his journey.'

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So I said to the RAC patrol guy, "OK, well, what can I do, then?

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"Are you going to take me home? Can I take me car home?"

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And he advised that I ring the RAC and speak to them.

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'Mark's family policy clearly stated

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'that if the car couldn't be fixed, the RAC would take the driver

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'and the car to a destination of the driver's choice.

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'So Mark assumed that they would take him down to Devon.

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'But when he called the RAC to discuss this,

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'he was in for a shock.'

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They were saying that because the patrolman had said

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it was oil too full, it was driver error,

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they didn't have any responsibility to do anything with me.

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'They also said that it would take ten hours to get the car to Devon

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'and that this would exceed the permitted hours

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'for the driver of the recovery vehicle.

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'But it didn't end there. Because Mark's car was an older model,

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'they didn't think it warranted being taken all the way to Devon

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'because it wouldn't be financially viable to repair it

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'once it got there.'

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'At a loss as to what to do, Mark called his dad,

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'who couldn't believe what he was hearing.'

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I said that's NOT the way it works, we have a policy that says

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it'll bring you home, it doesn't matter how long it takes,

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if they have to do it in stages with convoys of different people

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driving at different stages, it really doesn't matter.

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'Mark repeated all this to the RAC patrolman, but to no avail.'

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No matter how much I told the RAC that, they turned around

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and told me, "No, it's driver error, there is no contract here.

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"It's driver error, it's your fault, we don't have to take you anywhere."

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'And then the patrolman did something

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'which stunned both Mark and his dad.'

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Eventually, it got to the point where the RAC patrolman left.

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So I rang Dad and just said to him...

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"The RAC patrolman's just left me here, he's gone.

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"I'm just sat here in this garage with these garage folk, I'm..."

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"I'm left, I'm stranded here."

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And I said to him, "You have got to be joking!"

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He said, "No, he's just driven off and left me here."

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'As the garage had to close for the night

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'and had no room for Mark's motor,

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'it was left on the road along with Mark.

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'Fortunately, Mark had a friend who lived nearby.

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'He gave her a call and she came and collected him

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'and took him back to York.'

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'The following day, he took a train down to Devon,

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'paid for by his dad at a cost of £102.

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'Unsurprisingly, Roy was fuming.'

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This was for specific instances like this,

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where we needed the driver and the car

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to be brought to the destination of your choice

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and it just didn't happen.

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'Roy got straight on the phone to the RAC.'

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I contacted the RAC and spoke to them

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and explained what had happened and they said,

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"Oh, well, if you fill in a complaints procedure form

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"we'll investigate it."

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So I filled in all the paperwork, sent it all through to them...

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..and didn't hear anything.

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'A week later, Roy sent them another e-mail

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'and another one the day after that.

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'And eventually he got a response,

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'but it was far from what he was expecting.'

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There was absolutely no recognition

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that anything had gone wrong with this.

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They didn't acknowledge that they'd made a mistake

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in leaving the son by the road

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and according to the complaints procedure,

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everything had been done by the book.

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'And as far as Roy was concerned, that just wasn't good enough.'

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Here's me, the little guy, being turned over by the big organisation,

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they haven't delivered on what they were supposed to,

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I thought, "Actually, I think Dom might be the person

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"that could really help me here."

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I'll tell you what, we have got one very unhappy customer here

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because he's been a member with the RAC

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and been paying them money for 18 years now.

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'Roy complained to the RAC 21 months ago

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'and STILL hasn't had any satisfactory resolution

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'to his case.'

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I think it's time I put an e-mail in to them.

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'The RAC is one of the largest motoring organisations in the UK.

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'It has over seven million members and prides itself on offering

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'customers peace of mind when they're out on the roads.

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'Which is exactly why Roy signed up.'

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They seemed to be offering the best deal at the time

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and they'd got a good reputation, so we went with them.

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'Why do the RAC think people should sign up to their service?

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'Well, here's their advertising campaign from summer 2013.'

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The RAC advert promises you peace of mind and a helping hand

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when you're out and about.

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'This summer, we want you to get where you're going.'

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From Leeds to Devon? Not if your name's Mark Endacott.

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'That's why every RAC patrol

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'is equipped with over 500 parts and tools

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'and one qualified mechanic,

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'so we can fix four out of five cars at the roadside.'

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Unless, of course,

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your car is too old.

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'We don't just tow you to a garage...'

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And leave you there?

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'We bring the garage to you.'

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Unless the breakdown was your own fault.

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'Join today and get two months' membership free.

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'Motorists, we salute you.'

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'More like ABANDON YOU in Mark's case!

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'I would say that peace of mind is the last thing Mark Endacott got

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'from the RAC, and they certainly didn't get him

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'to where he was going.'

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'So I need to ask the RAC a few questions.

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'I want to know...'

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'Now, I've put all this in an e-mail,

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'so let's see what they come back with.'

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Phones, cars, houses, even our health,

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there's an insurance policy out there that will cover

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every aspect of our lives,

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but they don't always come up trumps when we get dealt a bad card.

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'And that's why, as consumers, it's good for us to be aware

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'that the devil is in the detail.'

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With my cat they said, "Your cat's got a broken front leg in the past,

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"so we're not going to insure your cat's front leg,"

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which to me, seems ridiculous.

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So always check the small print

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and always check that you're getting covered...

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well, for every leg, basically!

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'Insurance can seem quite daunting, but it's up to us, as consumers,

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'to check that we've got sufficient cover.

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'And I've got just the person to give us the lowdown

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'on where you stand with your insurers.'

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We help customers access suitable insurance for them,

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so they might be struggling,

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maybe they were in a nonstandard situation,

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they've got a medical condition and they want travel insurance,

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they've got convictions

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and they want some motor insurance...

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So we can help match them up with a suitable broker

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who's a specialist in that area, so they can have a solution.

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I am constantly receiving your e-mails

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complaining about insurance companies and it's no surprise!

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When you take a look at some of these policies,

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you'd need a PHD to fill one in!

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I think people can suffer from information overload,

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so they get policy booklets and where do they start?

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Do they want to read the entire thing?

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So they... Also we have problems as well when people buy online,

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we think the problem's magnified

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because they just go click, click, buy

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and they don't always check that that policy's suitable for them -

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how much is the excess, what are the exclusions?

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So it's very important that they do check and they speak to someone

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and they check they've got the right policy for them.

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Now, here's an interesting one for you.

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I've been contacted by a lady called Sue

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who had to cancel her holiday

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because she was admitted into hospital.

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Now, Sue did have travel insurance, but they refused to pay out

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cos it turns out that Sue had had tests for her condition

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in the previous 12 months.

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But Sue didn't think she needed to tell them

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because the tests came back as negative.

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Sadly, Sue, you were wrong.

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Every insurance company is different,

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but commonly, most insurers will say,

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"Have you been to the doctor in the last 12 months?

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"Have you been to hospital in the last 12 months?

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"Are you on any medication? Is it stable?"

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So those scenarios, whatever the situation,

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they'll want to know about it.

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They probably won't charge any more if it's just something fairly basic,

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but it is very, very important

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you disclose anything within those time periods.

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'The advice is clear - be completely upfront

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'and transparent with your insurers, as it will only be you

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'who ends up losing out by leaving out the details.'

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It's not just Sue who's contacted me,

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it seems a lot of you are missing out on payouts

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because YOU'VE failed to tell your insurance company

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something which would affect a claim.

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They call that "nondisclosure".

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It used to be the case that insurance companies would ask

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the policy holders to disclose any material fact

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that a prudent underwriter would want to know,

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but, of course, do consumers know what those facts are?

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So now there's been a change to consumer insurance law

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and that means that the insurance industry will ask

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the exact questions they need to know answers to.

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So nothing should be missed.

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Providing the customer answers honestly and positively,

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then all the information will be there

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and their claim should be paid.

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Good news for all of us, but I wonder where it leaves Laura.

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Laura contacted me after being involved in a car accident

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and she had to have operations because of fractures.

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Laura put a claim in to her insurance company,

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but they said serious injury is only covered

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if it involves the loss of a limb.

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'So, if like Laura, you're not happy with

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'the response of your insurers, what's the next step?'

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Complain to your insurance company that you're dealing with,

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try and work it out.

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If that doesn't happen, look in the back of the policy booklet

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and you can formally write to the chief executive of that insurer,

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they'll have about eight weeks to reply

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and if you're still not happy you can go to the

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Financial Ombudsman Service.

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It's free for customers and they will come down

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and they will look in detail at it, they're very customer friendly

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and any decision they make will be binding on the insurance company.

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So if they say to the insurer, "You have to pay," they have to pay.

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Some great advice there and by following it,

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you can make sure that your insurance cover works for you.

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First of all, when you're applying for insurance,

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answer all the questions honestly and accurately.

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Secondly, make sure the policy's suitable for you,

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that it covers all the limits and areas that you want it to.

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And then finally, make sure you're aware of its limitations

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and its exclusions,

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what doesn't it cover?

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And remembering those should mean you don't get done.

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'I've been looking into a complaint made against the RAC

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'by Roy Endacott and his son Mark.

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'Roy had been a loyal member of the RAC for 18 years,

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'taking comfort from the notion that they would always be there

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'should he or his family run into difficulty out on the roads.'

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Just having the RAC available to call out wherever you were

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in the country, was just a comfort to know.

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'But now his trust in them has been seriously eroded

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'after his 19-year-old son was abandoned

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'on his way from York to Devon.'

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I just still cannot believe that they would come out to

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a 19-year-old lad who has broken down and the car is obviously

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NOT going to get him to his destination

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and decide that their position

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was they were just going to drive away and leave him.

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'Thanks only to a friend, Mark managed to get home to York

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'and then got a train to Devon the following day.

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'But his car was left sitting at the side of the road,

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'outside a garage in Leeds

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'and the family were eventually obliged to scrap it.'

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I think we got £180 for a car with four new tyres

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and a tank full of fuel on it... that probably, the tyres

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and the fuel, would have been more than the 180 quid!

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So it really didn't do us

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any favours having to scrap it in that way.

0:17:040:17:07

'I want to get to the bottom of what went wrong here.

0:17:070:17:11

'So I e-mailed the RAC a couple of days ago

0:17:110:17:13

'to get their side of the story and, hey presto,

0:17:130:17:16

'I've got a response.'

0:17:160:17:17

Pete Williams from the RAC has e-mailed my office

0:17:170:17:21

and said that Mr Endacott cancelled his agreement in May 2012,

0:17:210:17:25

so they thought the problem would be put to bed.

0:17:250:17:28

He then said, "Does he want it reopened again?"

0:17:280:17:31

I said, "Yes, course he does!"

0:17:310:17:32

So they've now said they're going to have another look into it.

0:17:320:17:36

I've got a good feeling about this one.

0:17:360:17:38

'There are 44 million licensed drivers in the UK.

0:17:400:17:43

'And last year we travelled over 300 billion miles on UK roads.

0:17:430:17:49

'Perhaps unsurprisingly, quite a few of us also broke down.

0:17:490:17:53

'There were 212,000 breakdowns last year on motorways alone,

0:17:530:17:57

'meaning the recovery service were kept busy.

0:17:570:18:00

'So with this many vehicle users and this number of breakdowns,

0:18:000:18:03

'how common is it for customers

0:18:030:18:06

'to be let down by their recovery service?'

0:18:060:18:07

Hi, Emma.

0:18:070:18:09

'I'm going to ask someone who should know.'

0:18:090:18:11

Emma, you're a motoring consumer journalist,

0:18:120:18:14

so you hear about all sorts of problems.

0:18:140:18:16

Have you ever heard about one of the big breakdown recovery services

0:18:160:18:21

ever NOT getting somebody down when they WERE covered

0:18:210:18:24

and then refuse to get them home?

0:18:240:18:26

Well, I'm sure it does happen, but I have to say,

0:18:260:18:28

this is not something that we come across very often at all,

0:18:280:18:31

I think it's very rare.

0:18:310:18:33

I think in the main, the rescue and recovery business

0:18:330:18:36

is very reliable, and, you know,

0:18:360:18:38

you pay for peace of mind and usually get it.

0:18:380:18:40

But, of course, there will be instances where people are let down,

0:18:400:18:44

as is the case in any industry.

0:18:440:18:46

Can you think of any acceptable reason why that wouldn't happen?

0:18:460:18:50

No, not really.

0:18:500:18:51

If you've paid for a certain amount of cover, then you should get it.

0:18:510:18:55

Really what you need to do is just make sure you know

0:18:550:18:57

what your policy covers you for.

0:18:570:18:59

I think that's the main mistake a lot of people make,

0:18:590:19:01

is that they think they've paid for more cover than they actually have,

0:19:010:19:04

so just read the terms and conditions,

0:19:040:19:06

know what you're buying and then relax.

0:19:060:19:08

'Following that chat,

0:19:100:19:11

'I'm wondering whether there was anything in Roy and Mark's

0:19:110:19:14

'terms and conditions that might justify the RAC

0:19:140:19:17

'leaving Mark at the roadside.'

0:19:170:19:18

I've pulled up an online version of Roy's RAC policy document.

0:19:200:19:25

And it clearly states here that he does have

0:19:250:19:27

At Home, Roadside, Recovery and Onward Travel

0:19:270:19:30

for him and his family.

0:19:300:19:32

So what exactly does all that cover mean?

0:19:320:19:34

Well, their definition for Roadside is, quote:

0:19:340:19:37

"We'll fix your vehicle at the roadside,

0:19:370:19:40

"as long as you're over a quarter of a mile away from home.

0:19:400:19:43

"If we are unable to fix your vehicle,

0:19:430:19:46

"we'll tow you up to ten miles to a destination of your choice,

0:19:460:19:49

"local garage or a place of safety."

0:19:490:19:52

So, box ticked, he's got that.

0:19:520:19:54

Recovery means:

0:19:540:19:56

"We'll take you, up to seven passengers and your car

0:19:560:19:59

"to a chosen destination anywhere in mainland UK."

0:19:590:20:03

Again, box ticked. He's got that.

0:20:030:20:05

Onward Travel means:

0:20:060:20:08

"We'll ensure that your travel plans are not seriously interrupted

0:20:080:20:11

"if your car cannot complete the journey.

0:20:110:20:14

"We will provide you with

0:20:140:20:15

"a replacement vehicle for up to three days,

0:20:150:20:17

"or overnight accommodation or alternative transport costs."

0:20:170:20:21

Now, we know for a fact that Mark wasn't given the option

0:20:210:20:24

of where he was going to be taken to,

0:20:240:20:26

he was simply dropped off at a local garage.

0:20:260:20:29

He was told that they wouldn't take him all the way back to Devon

0:20:290:20:32

because it was too far, his car wasn't worth it,

0:20:320:20:35

plus the driver would have gone over his ten-hour shift.

0:20:350:20:38

He also wasn't offered a replacement vehicle

0:20:380:20:41

or an overnight accommodation, or alternative transport costs.

0:20:410:20:45

So, there is a discrepancy between what the RAC

0:20:450:20:47

are promising here in their policy document

0:20:470:20:50

and what the Endacott family were actually offered, which is not good.

0:20:500:20:53

'So, where do Roy and Mark actually stand here?

0:20:540:20:57

'The London Association of Recovery Operators is a trade organisation

0:20:570:21:02

'that represents recovery companies, including the RAC,

0:21:020:21:06

'so they should be able to tell us

0:21:060:21:08

'exactly what kind of service customers can expect.'

0:21:080:21:11

The recovery industry has changed a great deal over the last 25 years.

0:21:110:21:15

Cars have become a lot more reliable,

0:21:150:21:18

less volumes of traffic out there.

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This has then led to inconsistencies of work to recovery operators,

0:21:200:21:24

which has impacted on their business

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and their availability to provide a service.

0:21:260:21:28

'What are the most common call-outs?'

0:21:280:21:32

Feedback from our members tell us that the

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most common causes of breakdown are flat or faulty tyres,

0:21:350:21:39

flat or faulty batteries, followed by accidents and misfuels

0:21:390:21:44

and electrical faults, starter motors and alternators.

0:21:440:21:47

Roughly 10% of breakdowns are caused by human error.

0:21:470:21:52

'Mark Endacott was told his breakdown was due to human error,

0:21:520:21:56

'but should that mean he's left stranded?'

0:21:560:21:58

If the customer has full breakdown cover,

0:21:590:22:02

then he is entitled to have the car moved to the garage of his choosing.

0:22:020:22:05

'But that didn't happen because Mark was also told his car was

0:22:050:22:09

'old and beyond repair.

0:22:090:22:11

'Now, I didn't see any exclusions in his policy to cover this.'

0:22:110:22:14

The age of the car shouldn't impact on...

0:22:150:22:18

On the ability for the recovery operator to do the job.

0:22:180:22:21

As long as he has the relevant cover

0:22:210:22:23

or is willing to pay for that service, it shouldn't be an issue.

0:22:230:22:27

'That's exactly what I thought. So, what about those driving hours?

0:22:270:22:31

'I mean, after all, it is a long way between Leeds and Exeter.'

0:22:310:22:34

There are laws that will regulate the amount of driving hours

0:22:340:22:38

that a recovery operator will be able to work

0:22:380:22:41

and this will very much impact

0:22:410:22:43

on the service that the consumer receives.

0:22:430:22:45

'These laws come from the EU

0:22:470:22:49

'and they give the maximum daily driving time as nine hours.

0:22:490:22:52

'But despite these laws, Mark does say that companies can use

0:22:520:22:56

'a relay system to transport vehicles and provide a courtesy car

0:22:560:23:00

'to the customer to make sure they get from A to B.

0:23:000:23:03

'Well, that clearly didn't happen in this case.'

0:23:030:23:05

They've been called upon, in a breakdown,

0:23:060:23:09

to deliver on what the premium was paid for.

0:23:090:23:14

And they drove off.

0:23:140:23:15

I still cannot believe they would do that.

0:23:150:23:18

'Nor me.

0:23:180:23:19

'So what does Mark advise

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'if you have a complaint against your service provider?'

0:23:200:23:23

If the customer is not happy with their breakdown cover,

0:23:230:23:25

they should talk to their service provider,

0:23:250:23:28

just to make sure they are entitled to that full service.

0:23:280:23:31

If they don't get any joy with the call handler,

0:23:310:23:33

talk to their manager or supervisor.

0:23:330:23:36

'That's all well and good, but in Roy and Mark's case

0:23:360:23:39

'they had no joy getting a response to their complaints

0:23:390:23:42

'with anyone at the RAC,

0:23:420:23:44

'and I'm convinced they didn't get the service they should have.'

0:23:440:23:47

Time to call the RAC and find out what's gone wrong in Roy's case.

0:23:470:23:51

They're probably just going to be saying, "I'm ever so sorry, it shouldn't have happened,"

0:23:510:23:55

which is fair enough, we all make mistakes, but then I'll say,

0:23:550:23:57

"Well, hang on, what are you going to do about it?"

0:23:570:24:00

DIALLING TONE

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'I get through to his voice mail, so I leave a message.'

0:24:030:24:07

Hi, Pete, good morning to you.

0:24:090:24:10

It's Dominic Littlewood calling from the BBC.

0:24:100:24:12

I wonder if you'd be kind enough to give us a call back, please.

0:24:120:24:15

'I'm sure he will, but if he doesn't,

0:24:150:24:17

'I'll just try him again a little later on.'

0:24:170:24:20

Now, one of the things Mark was told was that his breakdown

0:24:230:24:26

'was due to driver error, something he's always denied.

0:24:260:24:29

'But what kind of driver errors DO cause breakdowns

0:24:290:24:33

'and what can you do to avoid them?

0:24:330:24:35

'I've come to meet mechanic Jim Piercy at his garage

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'in southeast London.'

0:24:380:24:39

Hello, Jim, nice to meet you. Thanks for agreeing to see me.

0:24:410:24:44

I want a bit of advice.

0:24:440:24:45

A lot of the time, people keep driving and driving

0:24:450:24:48

until they do break down and then it causes panic stations.

0:24:480:24:50

Show us what people should be doing, then.

0:24:500:24:52

The first thing they should be doing is checking their oil level,

0:24:520:24:55

which is... On most cars now, the dipstick will have a colour on it.

0:24:550:24:58

Yeah.

0:24:580:25:00

You take the dipstick out, you clean it first.

0:25:000:25:02

Make sure it's bone dry and once it's bone dry,

0:25:020:25:06

you put it back in the dipstick hold,

0:25:060:25:08

all the way down and straight the way out.

0:25:080:25:10

-Yeah.

-And then you can see the oil onto the crease,

0:25:100:25:14

which is the mark that shows this is OK.

0:25:140:25:16

Now, the person I'm trying to help out

0:25:160:25:18

was told the reason his car had broken down

0:25:180:25:19

was because it had TOO MUCH oil in it.

0:25:190:25:22

Does that sound like a genuine reason?

0:25:220:25:23

Yeah, that's just as bad as having not enough oil in it

0:25:230:25:26

because with too much oil, it burns the oil,

0:25:260:25:29

the oil goes into the catalytic converter and it soots it up

0:25:290:25:32

and it stops it from running.

0:25:320:25:34

So it's important not to go under or over?

0:25:340:25:36

Yep, just as important, yeah.

0:25:360:25:38

If you go under, of course, what's the worst-case scenario?

0:25:380:25:40

Engine failure. Engine'll seize, it's a throwaway.

0:25:400:25:43

OK, what are the other important things, then?

0:25:430:25:45

One people would worry about is the water, the coolant.

0:25:450:25:48

-We used to have a radiator with a cap on...

-Yep.

0:25:480:25:50

..it doesn't exist any more, does it?

0:25:500:25:52

No. Usually they're an expansion tank and they've got a screw on top

0:25:520:25:55

and they should, or most of them do, carry a warning.

0:25:550:25:58

-Never remove it when it's hot.

-Right.

0:25:580:26:01

-Because they build up pressure.

-Yeah, OK. Like a volcano?

0:26:010:26:03

And it's steam, yeah, added pressure

0:26:030:26:05

and if you try to take it off, you'll just...

0:26:050:26:07

-The water'll go, pffft, over the top, dangerous.

-You'll burn yourself.

0:26:070:26:10

But once it's chilled - you should do it in the morning before you start off on your journey -

0:26:100:26:14

just unscrew the cap.

0:26:140:26:15

-You're not just filling it with water.

-Or antifreeze.

0:26:150:26:18

Or antifreeze, it should be a mix, usually around about a 50-50 mix.

0:26:180:26:22

'And Jim has one more simple piece of advice to help us

0:26:220:26:25

'avoid the dreaded breakdown.'

0:26:250:26:28

Get your car serviced once a year.

0:26:280:26:30

'Well, I have to say, it's encouraging to know

0:26:300:26:33

'that some of the more minor vehicle malfunctions CAN be avoided

0:26:330:26:37

'if you just spend a little bit of time

0:26:370:26:39

'keeping on top of basic maintenance.

0:26:390:26:41

'Now, I need to get back onto the RAC.'

0:26:410:26:44

'Morning, press office.'

0:26:460:26:47

Oh, hi, good morning, is Pete Williams there, please?

0:26:470:26:49

'Speaking.'

0:26:490:26:51

Oh, Pete, hi, good morning, it's Dominic Littlewood from the BBC.

0:26:510:26:53

'Hi, hi, how are you?'

0:26:530:26:55

I'm all right, thanks, Pete,

0:26:550:26:56

I haven't caught you at a bad time, have I?

0:26:560:26:58

-'No, no, it's fine.'

-Ah, brilliant.

0:26:580:26:59

Pete, I think you were half expecting my call.

0:26:590:27:02

You're obviously quite familiar with the story, I think, aren't you, Pete?

0:27:020:27:05

'Yes, I am.'

0:27:050:27:06

Just want to know...what went wrong with Mr Endacott.

0:27:060:27:09

'Yeah, basically, you know,

0:27:110:27:12

'we reviewed the decision that was made back in, sort of...

0:27:120:27:16

'Whilst his first approach to us was in March,

0:27:160:27:18

'I think the actual breakdown was 12 March, was it?'

0:27:180:27:22

I've got 19 March.

0:27:220:27:24

-'19 March, right, OK.'

-Yeah.

0:27:240:27:26

'Obviously we reviewed how we'd handled the breakdown and the call

0:27:260:27:32

'and we'd stood by that decision.

0:27:320:27:35

'Obviously, now, you've come back to us,

0:27:350:27:37

'we've reviewed it and actually, we don't agree,

0:27:370:27:40

'we don't feel we served Mr Endacott appropriately in that instance.'

0:27:400:27:44

'This is good news, hopefully we might get somewhere.

0:27:440:27:48

'Pete goes on to say that they're looking into

0:27:480:27:51

'what they can do to rectify this.

0:27:510:27:53

'But I still want to try and get to the bottom

0:27:530:27:55

'of why this happened in the first place.'

0:27:550:27:57

Pete, can I just ask you one or two questions?

0:27:570:28:00

When I read the story about this and heard all about it,

0:28:000:28:02

what slightly concerned me -

0:28:020:28:04

it's an older vehicle, it's a Y-reg car -

0:28:040:28:06

would there be a difference in this breakdown

0:28:060:28:08

if it was a newer, more expensive or even a sort of...

0:28:080:28:12

you know, a high-end vehicle?

0:28:120:28:14

'I don't believe so.

0:28:140:28:16

'I can't understand why that would be any different,

0:28:160:28:19

'but I can certainly ask the question of our operational team

0:28:190:28:22

'and the customer service guys.'

0:28:220:28:23

The other thing I'd like to ask is what's the procedure

0:28:230:28:26

if the destination journey is going to be a long one?

0:28:260:28:29

So more than, say, 12 hours or 300 miles.

0:28:290:28:32

Do you have a certain cut-off point where a driver can't drive

0:28:320:28:34

or won't drive, for whether it's legal reasons

0:28:340:28:36

or just your own guidelines, or something?

0:28:360:28:39

'There is an awful lot of legislation

0:28:390:28:41

-'around the mileage a driver can travel.'

-Yeah.

0:28:410:28:44

'Also, obviously, it's dependent on the level of cover somebody has.

0:28:440:28:49

'If it's a recovery to home

0:28:490:28:52

'and you're talking about hundreds of miles,

0:28:520:28:55

'then we would actually have to

0:28:550:28:57

'engage a proper recovery vehicle driver and they would be using tacho

0:28:570:29:01

'and meet the laws of the road in terms of driver hours.

0:29:010:29:06

'But there shouldn't be a limit on the distance they would travel.'

0:29:060:29:10

So if something goes over hours, what would happen then?

0:29:100:29:13

Would they then be put in a hotel?

0:29:130:29:16

Would they then just be dropped off at a local garage?

0:29:160:29:19

'Yeah, we have an Onward Travel level of cover,

0:29:190:29:22

'there we'd potentially put the driver on a train

0:29:220:29:24

'and recover the vehicle in time as well.

0:29:240:29:27

'And there we can use a couple of recovery drivers.

0:29:270:29:30

'It might be that they meet sort of halfway at Birmingham

0:29:300:29:32

'and the vehicle's then relayed on another vehicle,

0:29:320:29:34

-'where they're starting afresh on a new tacho, so...'

-Yeah.

0:29:340:29:37

'Let me get the insight from the guys who deal with this

0:29:370:29:40

'on a day-to-day basis and I'll come back to you.'

0:29:400:29:42

If you could clarify that it'd be very interesting.

0:29:420:29:44

'Absolutely, OK.'

0:29:440:29:45

Smashing. Nice talking to you, Pete, I'll wait for you to call back.

0:29:450:29:48

Thank you, then. Bye-bye.

0:29:480:29:50

Right, I eventually got to speak to Pete from the RAC,

0:29:510:29:53

I put a few questions to him and I've asked for some money back.

0:29:530:29:56

Nothing greedy.

0:29:560:29:57

He said he's going to give me a call back this afternoon,

0:29:570:30:00

so, that's about... three hours away, let's see.

0:30:000:30:04

When the unexpected happens, it's nice to know that

0:30:130:30:15

you've got peace of mind and help is at hand.

0:30:150:30:18

And there are loads of home emergency policies out there

0:30:180:30:21

to protect you when things go wrong.

0:30:210:30:23

But I've heard from a lady whose boiler insurance

0:30:230:30:25

left her out in the cold.

0:30:250:30:27

'Jean Bailey, from Buckinghamshire, had a battle that boiled over

0:30:270:30:31

'with her energy supplier E.ON.

0:30:310:30:32

'It all began in her previous home in Staffordshire.'

0:30:320:30:36

I lived in the house for 24 years,

0:30:370:30:40

but the boiler I had only installed nine, ten years previous to that.

0:30:400:30:47

'Jean had the boiler serviced every year

0:30:470:30:49

'and when she switched her energy supplier three years ago,

0:30:490:30:53

'for that extra peace of mind,

0:30:530:30:54

'Jean took out a boiler service contract with E.ON.'

0:30:540:30:58

Initially, the monthly contract was about £20.

0:30:580:31:02

I set up a direct debit to pay for the monthly instalments.

0:31:020:31:07

The contract, as far as I was aware,

0:31:070:31:10

covered spare parts, service, everything.

0:31:100:31:13

'And for two years, everything was cosy with the boiler,

0:31:130:31:17

'but then in mid-November...'

0:31:170:31:19

When I got up in the morning the house was cold,

0:31:190:31:22

so I realised that it hadn't come on.

0:31:220:31:25

So I would go downstairs and have a look

0:31:250:31:27

and the pilot light wasn't on.

0:31:270:31:29

In the evening it would probably be OK,

0:31:290:31:32

but the following evening it maybe wouldn't come on again.

0:31:320:31:36

That's when I realised there's something wrong with it.

0:31:360:31:39

I rang E.ON, told them what the problem was, and they said, yes,

0:31:390:31:43

they would send an engineer out.

0:31:430:31:45

'And almost a week later, help finally arrived.'

0:31:450:31:48

When the young lad came, he looked at the boiler,

0:31:480:31:51

but went upstairs to the linen cupboard,

0:31:510:31:54

decided that there was some wires or something needed to be replaced,

0:31:540:31:58

replaced them, tried the boiler again

0:31:580:32:02

and it did come on, so I thought the boiler was repaired.

0:32:020:32:06

The next morning the house was cold and I was not a happy bunny!

0:32:070:32:14

'I can imagine! But the same engineer came straight back round.'

0:32:140:32:18

He'd had a look at all the wires

0:32:180:32:21

that he had put in and one of them was loose,

0:32:210:32:24

so he repaired it, tried it again and it did come on and it was fine.

0:32:240:32:29

I think it was fine for about two days after that.

0:32:290:32:33

'Is that all?!

0:32:330:32:34

'The boiler went back to its old ways of intermittingly working!

0:32:340:32:37

'This became all the more frustrating

0:32:370:32:40

'as Jean was planning to put her house on the market

0:32:400:32:42

'and she couldn't do that with a busted boiler.'

0:32:420:32:45

I was getting really frustrated and annoyed

0:32:450:32:49

that I had been paying monthly instalments

0:32:490:32:52

for them to repair my boiler and they weren't doing it.

0:32:520:32:55

'And what followed was another engineer's visit,

0:32:550:32:57

'followed by a report, followed by a fourth visit!'

0:32:570:33:02

He stripped the boiler, put seals all around the boiler,

0:33:020:33:06

and it worked while he was there.

0:33:060:33:09

Three, four days after that, it started intermittently

0:33:090:33:12

coming on and off, and by this time I had had enough.

0:33:120:33:17

'I don't blame you.

0:33:170:33:18

'Four visits and no fix, it's not what you pay £20 a month for,

0:33:180:33:22

'that's for sure.

0:33:220:33:23

'Having put her house on the market, Jean took drastic action.'

0:33:230:33:27

I decided that I must try and get an independent contractor

0:33:280:33:33

to come out and repair the boiler.

0:33:330:33:35

I went on the internet, found this lad

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and he said he would come and have a look.

0:33:380:33:43

I was aware that I would have to pay it out of my own money,

0:33:430:33:46

but I needed my boiler repaired.

0:33:460:33:48

'Enter plumber Gary Everson.'

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The other contractor said that it actually wasn't her boiler,

0:33:530:33:55

it was the pump and the zone valve that was faulty

0:33:550:33:58

and they replaced both of them.

0:33:580:34:00

'So E.ON thought it was to do with her central heating system,

0:34:000:34:03

'not the boiler.'

0:34:030:34:05

As far as I'm concerned, the diagnosis was wrong.

0:34:050:34:07

It was the actual boiler at fault, not the central heating system.

0:34:070:34:10

The problem with Jean's boiler was intermittent,

0:34:100:34:13

it was the switch and the flume that was causing the problem.

0:34:130:34:16

When the independent engineer told me that there was two parts

0:34:160:34:20

that it could have been, I was so pleased that someone

0:34:200:34:25

could tell me there was a problem and that he could repair it.

0:34:250:34:30

'Gary came back the next day with the parts and the job was done.'

0:34:300:34:35

Once I had the parts, they were very easy to fit.

0:34:350:34:38

The job took me roughly around four hours.

0:34:380:34:40

That included the first visit and then the second visit.

0:34:400:34:43

'And from that moment on, the boiler worked and Jean sold the house,

0:34:430:34:47

'but she was still boiling at E.ON

0:34:470:34:49

'having paid them approximately 500 smackers

0:34:490:34:52

'and she now had forked out £306 for parts and labour to Gary.

0:34:520:34:56

'It does make you wonder what was the point of having

0:34:560:34:59

'the E.ON protection plan in the first place!'

0:34:590:35:02

I cancelled the direct debit,

0:35:020:35:05

I decided I wasn't paying for something

0:35:050:35:07

if I wasn't getting a service

0:35:070:35:09

and then I decided to write to them confirming that

0:35:090:35:14

and complaining that after four times

0:35:140:35:17

they did not repair the boiler.

0:35:170:35:19

'But the one thing Jean failed to ask for was a reimbursement

0:35:200:35:24

'of the cost of calling out the independent engineer.'

0:35:240:35:27

'E.ON allowed Jean to cancel

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'and waived the £84 cancellation fee as a gesture of goodwill.

0:35:310:35:34

'I should think so, too.'

0:35:340:35:36

'But did Jean handle this situation in the best way?

0:35:370:35:40

'Let's see what Which? have to say.'

0:35:400:35:43

If you're taking out, for example, a boiler repair contract and

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you're having repeated visits to try and fix a problem with your boiler,

0:35:490:35:53

then obviously that's pretty frustrating

0:35:530:35:55

and you're going to expect the boiler repair contract to cover you

0:35:550:35:58

to get the job done.

0:35:580:36:00

If that's not happening, then the best course of action

0:36:000:36:03

is to make a case against the supplier

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of that boiler repair contract

0:36:060:36:07

and say that the work being carried out is not being done

0:36:070:36:09

to a level of reasonable skill and care

0:36:090:36:12

and that's under the Supply of Goods and Services Act.

0:36:120:36:15

So, if you made that point in writing to the company,

0:36:150:36:18

the onus does sit with them to make sure that

0:36:180:36:20

the contract that you formed

0:36:200:36:22

is being carried out with reasonable skill and care.

0:36:220:36:24

'So, ultimately, the law is on your side

0:36:240:36:27

'if the problem isn't getting fixed.'

0:36:270:36:29

'We wrote to E.ON about Jean's case and they told us...'

0:36:300:36:33

'We asked them about paying her back

0:36:450:36:47

'for the independent engineer's costs.

0:36:470:36:48

'They said that they had been unaware

0:36:480:36:51

'another fault had happened and...'

0:36:510:36:53

'So, no money then.'

0:37:020:37:03

Jean did what most of us would do

0:37:060:37:08

and she took matters into her own hands.

0:37:080:37:11

Now, sadly, she's been left out of pocket,

0:37:110:37:13

but I suppose on the flip side, at least she's finally warm.

0:37:130:37:17

'I've been trying to get some recompense for Roy Endacott,

0:37:220:37:26

'whose son Mark was let down by the RAC after breaking down

0:37:260:37:29

'a long way from home.'

0:37:290:37:31

I just cannot believe a patrolman would just drive...

0:37:320:37:35

If he'd said, "I'll take you to the station or where can I take..."

0:37:350:37:37

To just drive off and leave him there, a young lad on his own...

0:37:370:37:40

I still don't understand it at all.

0:37:400:37:43

'I spoke to the press officer a few days ago and asked him

0:37:430:37:45

'some questions about Roy and Mark's case.

0:37:450:37:48

'He promised to get back to me with some answers to those questions

0:37:480:37:51

'and I've just received an e-mail from him.

0:37:510:37:53

'This is what it says...'

0:37:530:37:55

'He also admits that the RAC has many options for handling

0:38:160:38:20

'long-distance recoveries, including using several linked resources,

0:38:200:38:24

'and adds that...'

0:38:240:38:26

'Well, it's too late for that in the Endacotts' case

0:38:450:38:47

'because the car has already been scrapped.

0:38:470:38:49

'But in addition to their apology, the RAC is also offering Mark

0:38:490:38:52

'and Roy some recompense, and I'm on my way to Devon to tell them

0:38:520:38:56

'exactly what's on offer.'

0:38:560:38:57

Well, after a very long 3½-hour drive down from London

0:39:000:39:03

to Exeter St Davids, I've finally arrived at Roy and Mark's farm.

0:39:030:39:06

Very glad I didn't break down on the way, I've got to say.

0:39:060:39:08

However, I haven't really planned this one out very well

0:39:080:39:11

because it's soaking wet, there's puddles everywhere

0:39:110:39:14

and I've come dressed as if I'm going to a wedding reception.

0:39:140:39:17

-SHEEP BLEATS

-Pardon?

0:39:260:39:28

-Morning, Roy. Morning, Mark.

-Morning.

0:39:280:39:31

-Nice to meet you both.

-And you.

-How you doing?

-How are you?

0:39:310:39:34

Got to say, it's a total contrast to my normal day in the office, you know?

0:39:340:39:37

-I'm sure.

-I'm a London boy, a city boy.

0:39:370:39:39

I tell you what, though,

0:39:390:39:40

it was a long drive down just from London alone.

0:39:400:39:43

Took me about 3½ hours, was pouring down,

0:39:430:39:46

but I remember thinking at the time, "It's not the sort of road

0:39:460:39:48

"you'd want to be breaking down on and not have some sort of backup,"

0:39:480:39:51

and, of course, that's what happened to you, wasn't it?

0:39:510:39:53

Yeah, I know... It wasn't great not having a car

0:39:530:39:56

to get around with for a little while there.

0:39:560:39:59

There's also a lack of cafes. Is there one around here where I can perhaps get a cup of tea?

0:39:590:40:03

Shall we go indoors and have a cup of tea?

0:40:030:40:04

Ah, that's very kind of you, thanks very much, lead the way.

0:40:040:40:07

'Now, the main things Roy and Mark were after from the RAC

0:40:070:40:10

'was an apology and some compensation.

0:40:100:40:13

'So I'm hoping they're going to be happy.'

0:40:130:40:15

I've spoken to the RAC, they are embarrassed about this.

0:40:170:40:19

They have written to us, they have given you an apology,

0:40:190:40:22

which I'll pass on to you and they would also like to give you

0:40:220:40:24

a small token, it's £30 worth of high street vouchers.

0:40:240:40:27

You're not going to book six weeks in the Seychelles with that,

0:40:270:40:30

it's more a token just to say, "Look, sorry, here we go,

0:40:300:40:32

"have those and go and spend them on whatever."

0:40:320:40:34

Roy, again, they've apologised to you.

0:40:340:40:37

They are embarrassed about the situation, they'll learn from it.

0:40:370:40:40

What they're going to do for you is basically what you want -

0:40:400:40:44

your £205 premium that you've paid, they're going to refund that to you.

0:40:440:40:48

The train fare that you paid was just under £103,

0:40:480:40:51

they're going to refund you that money as well.

0:40:510:40:54

They also are going to offer you a family membership

0:40:540:40:59

free for the next year, the same level of cover

0:40:590:41:02

that you had before, they want to entice you back as a customer.

0:41:020:41:05

OK, that's great. I mean, that's all we ever wanted,

0:41:050:41:08

but just couldn't get through the door

0:41:080:41:11

to get them to... address any of that.

0:41:110:41:15

Would you consider going back to them?

0:41:150:41:17

Yeah, I would, I think, it's just the acknowledgement

0:41:170:41:20

that they got it wrong and I think the importance is

0:41:200:41:22

that this doesn't happen to somebody else.

0:41:220:41:25

Yeah, exactly, and I think bringing it to our attention has been

0:41:250:41:27

very beneficial because hopefully somebody in the future

0:41:270:41:30

in a similar situation - particularly if it's a young lady -

0:41:300:41:33

hopefully won't ever fall into the position that you found yourself in.

0:41:330:41:37

How do you feel about everything?

0:41:370:41:39

Yeah, I'm just glad I got an apology, really.

0:41:390:41:42

-That's...

-That was important.

0:41:420:41:44

That was what I wanted, was just them to say sorry

0:41:440:41:46

for stranding me up there.

0:41:460:41:49

-Just, that makes me a lot happier about the situation.

-Yeah.

0:41:490:41:54

And I'd just like to say thank you to you

0:41:540:41:55

because without your input,

0:41:550:41:57

we wouldn't have got any redress on this at all.

0:41:570:41:59

I thank you for bringing it to my attention because all we all want as consumers is good customer service,

0:41:590:42:03

-that's all we want, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:42:030:42:05

-We've paid for something, give us what we paid for.

-Yeah.

0:42:050:42:07

Look after us, yeah, or lose us for ever, you know.

0:42:070:42:11

Right, I'm going to be off, back to London, it's a 3½-hour journey.

0:42:110:42:14

I don't suppose you've got a couple of lamb chops going spare before I set off?

0:42:140:42:17

MARK AND ROY LAUGH

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What I like about this story is

0:42:230:42:24

Roy and Mark weren't being unreasonable,

0:42:240:42:26

they didn't want anything out of the ordinary,

0:42:260:42:28

they just wanted their out-of-pocket expenses back

0:42:280:42:31

and they wanted the RAC to get a wake-up call to make sure

0:42:310:42:33

that this sort of situation never happens to anybody else again.

0:42:330:42:37

And I think I've achieved BOTH of those.

0:42:370:42:40

I think Dom's really done a great job in getting the result

0:42:400:42:43

that we all wanted, which was just an apology,

0:42:430:42:46

we got compensation for both Mark's train fare

0:42:460:42:51

and the annual subscription,

0:42:510:42:53

and just the recognition

0:42:530:42:55

that this shouldn't happen to anybody else either

0:42:550:42:57

because I think that's the biggest thing of all

0:42:570:43:00

to come out of this,

0:43:000:43:01

that I wouldn't want any other parent to have their child

0:43:010:43:04

left by the roadside

0:43:040:43:05

and the patrolman to just drive off and leave them there.

0:43:050:43:08

That's got to be the best outcome of all.

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