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'My name's Dominic Littlewood | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
'and I'm passionate about taking on your consumer battles. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
'In fact, taking companies to task has become my goal in life.' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
I'm looking for about £20,000 to sort this out once and for all. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
'Big or small - no company is excused from my quest to ensure | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
'that you get what you're entitled to.' | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Have to wait for them to ring me back... Oh, so frustrating! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
'Whether it's getting your money back...' | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
It was just unacceptable as a customer to be told no. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
'..or taking on your contract conundrums...' | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
The response I got was not satisfactory | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
because they failed to give me the information I asked for. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
'..I'm on your side.' | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
'On today's show, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
'the motoring organisation that left one of its customers high and dry.' | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
I just still cannot believe that they would come out | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
to a 19-year-old lad who has broken down | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
and decide that their position was | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
that they were just going to drive away and leave him. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'We show you how to navigate the knotty world of insurance.' | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
Always check the small print and always check that you are getting covered, basically! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
'And the battle that boiled over for one energy provider's | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
'long-suffering customer.' | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
I was getting really frustrated | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and annoyed that I had been paying these monthly instalments | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
for them to repair my boiler and they weren't doing it. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
I'm taking on your consumer problems to make sure you don't get done! | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
If you saw a crime, an accident or a fire, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
you'd know who to dial, right? 999. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
But what about if it was one of those other emergency services? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
You know, like your house flooding, getting locked out, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
or even your car breaking down. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Well, from plumbers to locksmiths to car recovery services, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
there's somebody out there to cover every eventuality. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
But I've heard from someone whose emergency service | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
DIDN'T live up to its reputation. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
'Meet Mark Endacott. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
'He lives in York with his girlfriend, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
'but makes frequent trips down to Devon to visit his family and | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
'he's written to me about a problem | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
'he's had with his breakdown service.' | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
They'd always been there when it had been something local, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
within ten miles they'd bring us back no problem, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
but as soon as it's the big one, the one that you actually WANT them for | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
and NEED them for, that's when they let us down. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
'That day in March 2012, 19-year-old Mark was driving down to Devon | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
'to help out on the family farm.' | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It's a sheep farm, so I've got to come down | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
and help Dad with the lambing cos it's pretty full-on. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
'It can involve a lot of night shifts, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
'being up at three/four o'clock in the morning sometimes. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
'It's a lot of work.' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
'The journey from York to Mark's village of Spreyton, near Exeter, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
'is over 300 miles and takes around five hours. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
'Mark set off at lunchtime, hoping to be there for early evening. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
'But no sooner had he hit the dual carriageway, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
'than he ran into difficulty.' | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
I got about 300 yards down the A64 when I realised that I'd lifted off | 0:03:00 | 0:03:06 | |
the accelerator, but the car was continuing to speed up | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
and me engine was just going crazy, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
it was revving up at 5,500rpm, maxing out. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
So I pulled off onto the hard shoulder, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
put my hazards on and turned the engine off | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and the engine continued to rev even when I pulled the key out, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
which was also quite worrying! | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
'Eventually the engine stopped with a bang...' | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
'..leaving Mark stranded on the hard shoulder. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
'But at this stage, he wasn't unduly worried.' | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
At that point I was very glad to know that... "It's all right, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
"I've got an RAC card in me wallet, I've got the number there, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
"I can ring 'em and it shouldn't be too long | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
"before I'm back on me journey." | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
'Mark's dad Roy had taken out a family policy with the RAC, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
'which included everything from Home Start and Roadside Assistance | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
'to the promise that if your car couldn't be fixed, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
'the RAC would take you and it to a destination of your choice | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
'anywhere in mainland UK.' | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
We took out the package that provided all the bells and whistles | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
that would just mean that if anything went wrong, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
they would bring whoever it was and their car home safely. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
So that just gave peace of mind to parents who were just | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
concerned with 17-year-olds out on the road. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
'Mark put in a call to the RAC and two hours later a mechanic arrived. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
'Unfortunately, his prognosis for Mark's car wasn't good.' | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
He asked whether I'd put oil in the car and I hadn't, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
I'd checked the oil level, it was fine. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
And then he... He proceeded to tell me that | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
he thought there WAS too much oil in the car and that as such, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
the engine had run off and the turbo had broken, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
all the turbo fins gone through the engine | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
and destroyed the engine, really. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
'The mechanic decided the best course of action would be to take | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
'the car to a local garage in Leeds to see if they could fix it.' | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
'Unfortunately, the garage concluded that the engine was beyond repair | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
'and that Mark would need a new one to complete his journey.' | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
So I said to the RAC patrol guy, "OK, well, what can I do, then? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
"Are you going to take me home? Can I take me car home?" | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
And he advised that I ring the RAC and speak to them. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
'Mark's family policy clearly stated | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
'that if the car couldn't be fixed, the RAC would take the driver | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
'and the car to a destination of the driver's choice. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
'So Mark assumed that they would take him down to Devon. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
'But when he called the RAC to discuss this, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
'he was in for a shock.' | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
They were saying that because the patrolman had said | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
it was oil too full, it was driver error, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
they didn't have any responsibility to do anything with me. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
'They also said that it would take ten hours to get the car to Devon | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
'and that this would exceed the permitted hours | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
'for the driver of the recovery vehicle. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
'But it didn't end there. Because Mark's car was an older model, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
'they didn't think it warranted being taken all the way to Devon | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
'because it wouldn't be financially viable to repair it | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
'once it got there.' | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
'At a loss as to what to do, Mark called his dad, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
'who couldn't believe what he was hearing.' | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
I said that's NOT the way it works, we have a policy that says | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
it'll bring you home, it doesn't matter how long it takes, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
if they have to do it in stages with convoys of different people | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
driving at different stages, it really doesn't matter. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
'Mark repeated all this to the RAC patrolman, but to no avail.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
No matter how much I told the RAC that, they turned around | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and told me, "No, it's driver error, there is no contract here. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
"It's driver error, it's your fault, we don't have to take you anywhere." | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
'And then the patrolman did something | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
'which stunned both Mark and his dad.' | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Eventually, it got to the point where the RAC patrolman left. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
So I rang Dad and just said to him... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
"The RAC patrolman's just left me here, he's gone. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
"I'm just sat here in this garage with these garage folk, I'm..." | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
"I'm left, I'm stranded here." | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
And I said to him, "You have got to be joking!" | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
He said, "No, he's just driven off and left me here." | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
'As the garage had to close for the night | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
'and had no room for Mark's motor, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
'it was left on the road along with Mark. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
'Fortunately, Mark had a friend who lived nearby. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
'He gave her a call and she came and collected him | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
'and took him back to York.' | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
'The following day, he took a train down to Devon, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
'paid for by his dad at a cost of £102. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
'Unsurprisingly, Roy was fuming.' | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
This was for specific instances like this, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
where we needed the driver and the car | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
to be brought to the destination of your choice | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
and it just didn't happen. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
'Roy got straight on the phone to the RAC.' | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
I contacted the RAC and spoke to them | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
and explained what had happened and they said, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
"Oh, well, if you fill in a complaints procedure form | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
"we'll investigate it." | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
So I filled in all the paperwork, sent it all through to them... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
..and didn't hear anything. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
'A week later, Roy sent them another e-mail | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
'and another one the day after that. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
'And eventually he got a response, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
'but it was far from what he was expecting.' | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
There was absolutely no recognition | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
that anything had gone wrong with this. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
They didn't acknowledge that they'd made a mistake | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
in leaving the son by the road | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
and according to the complaints procedure, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
everything had been done by the book. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
'And as far as Roy was concerned, that just wasn't good enough.' | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Here's me, the little guy, being turned over by the big organisation, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
they haven't delivered on what they were supposed to, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I thought, "Actually, I think Dom might be the person | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
"that could really help me here." | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
I'll tell you what, we have got one very unhappy customer here | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
because he's been a member with the RAC | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
and been paying them money for 18 years now. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
'Roy complained to the RAC 21 months ago | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
'and STILL hasn't had any satisfactory resolution | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
'to his case.' | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I think it's time I put an e-mail in to them. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
'The RAC is one of the largest motoring organisations in the UK. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
'It has over seven million members and prides itself on offering | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
'customers peace of mind when they're out on the roads. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
'Which is exactly why Roy signed up.' | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
They seemed to be offering the best deal at the time | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
and they'd got a good reputation, so we went with them. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
'Why do the RAC think people should sign up to their service? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
'Well, here's their advertising campaign from summer 2013.' | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
The RAC advert promises you peace of mind and a helping hand | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
when you're out and about. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
'This summer, we want you to get where you're going.' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
From Leeds to Devon? Not if your name's Mark Endacott. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
'That's why every RAC patrol | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
'is equipped with over 500 parts and tools | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
'and one qualified mechanic, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
'so we can fix four out of five cars at the roadside.' | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Unless, of course, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
your car is too old. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
'We don't just tow you to a garage...' | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
And leave you there? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
'We bring the garage to you.' | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Unless the breakdown was your own fault. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
'Join today and get two months' membership free. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
'Motorists, we salute you.' | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
'More like ABANDON YOU in Mark's case! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
'I would say that peace of mind is the last thing Mark Endacott got | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
'from the RAC, and they certainly didn't get him | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
'to where he was going.' | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
'So I need to ask the RAC a few questions. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
'I want to know...' | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
'Now, I've put all this in an e-mail, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
'so let's see what they come back with.' | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Phones, cars, houses, even our health, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
there's an insurance policy out there that will cover | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
every aspect of our lives, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
but they don't always come up trumps when we get dealt a bad card. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
'And that's why, as consumers, it's good for us to be aware | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
'that the devil is in the detail.' | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
With my cat they said, "Your cat's got a broken front leg in the past, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
"so we're not going to insure your cat's front leg," | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
which to me, seems ridiculous. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
So always check the small print | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
and always check that you're getting covered... | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
well, for every leg, basically! | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
'Insurance can seem quite daunting, but it's up to us, as consumers, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
'to check that we've got sufficient cover. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
'And I've got just the person to give us the lowdown | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
'on where you stand with your insurers.' | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
We help customers access suitable insurance for them, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
so they might be struggling, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
maybe they were in a nonstandard situation, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
they've got a medical condition and they want travel insurance, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
they've got convictions | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
and they want some motor insurance... | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
So we can help match them up with a suitable broker | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
who's a specialist in that area, so they can have a solution. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
I am constantly receiving your e-mails | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
complaining about insurance companies and it's no surprise! | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
When you take a look at some of these policies, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
you'd need a PHD to fill one in! | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I think people can suffer from information overload, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
so they get policy booklets and where do they start? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Do they want to read the entire thing? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
So they... Also we have problems as well when people buy online, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
we think the problem's magnified | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
because they just go click, click, buy | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
and they don't always check that that policy's suitable for them - | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
how much is the excess, what are the exclusions? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
So it's very important that they do check and they speak to someone | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
and they check they've got the right policy for them. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Now, here's an interesting one for you. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
I've been contacted by a lady called Sue | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
who had to cancel her holiday | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
because she was admitted into hospital. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Now, Sue did have travel insurance, but they refused to pay out | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
cos it turns out that Sue had had tests for her condition | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
in the previous 12 months. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
But Sue didn't think she needed to tell them | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
because the tests came back as negative. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Sadly, Sue, you were wrong. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Every insurance company is different, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
but commonly, most insurers will say, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
"Have you been to the doctor in the last 12 months? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
"Have you been to hospital in the last 12 months? | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
"Are you on any medication? Is it stable?" | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
So those scenarios, whatever the situation, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
they'll want to know about it. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
They probably won't charge any more if it's just something fairly basic, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
but it is very, very important | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
you disclose anything within those time periods. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
'The advice is clear - be completely upfront | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
'and transparent with your insurers, as it will only be you | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
'who ends up losing out by leaving out the details.' | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
It's not just Sue who's contacted me, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
it seems a lot of you are missing out on payouts | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
because YOU'VE failed to tell your insurance company | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
something which would affect a claim. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
They call that "nondisclosure". | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
It used to be the case that insurance companies would ask | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
the policy holders to disclose any material fact | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
that a prudent underwriter would want to know, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
but, of course, do consumers know what those facts are? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
So now there's been a change to consumer insurance law | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
and that means that the insurance industry will ask | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
the exact questions they need to know answers to. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
So nothing should be missed. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Providing the customer answers honestly and positively, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
then all the information will be there | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
and their claim should be paid. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Good news for all of us, but I wonder where it leaves Laura. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Laura contacted me after being involved in a car accident | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
and she had to have operations because of fractures. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Laura put a claim in to her insurance company, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
but they said serious injury is only covered | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
if it involves the loss of a limb. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
'So, if like Laura, you're not happy with | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
'the response of your insurers, what's the next step?' | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Complain to your insurance company that you're dealing with, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
try and work it out. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
If that doesn't happen, look in the back of the policy booklet | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and you can formally write to the chief executive of that insurer, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
they'll have about eight weeks to reply | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
and if you're still not happy you can go to the | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Financial Ombudsman Service. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
It's free for customers and they will come down | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and they will look in detail at it, they're very customer friendly | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
and any decision they make will be binding on the insurance company. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
So if they say to the insurer, "You have to pay," they have to pay. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Some great advice there and by following it, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
you can make sure that your insurance cover works for you. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
First of all, when you're applying for insurance, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
answer all the questions honestly and accurately. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Secondly, make sure the policy's suitable for you, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
that it covers all the limits and areas that you want it to. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
And then finally, make sure you're aware of its limitations | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
and its exclusions, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
what doesn't it cover? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
And remembering those should mean you don't get done. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
'I've been looking into a complaint made against the RAC | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
'by Roy Endacott and his son Mark. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
'Roy had been a loyal member of the RAC for 18 years, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
'taking comfort from the notion that they would always be there | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
'should he or his family run into difficulty out on the roads.' | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Just having the RAC available to call out wherever you were | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
in the country, was just a comfort to know. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
'But now his trust in them has been seriously eroded | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
'after his 19-year-old son was abandoned | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
'on his way from York to Devon.' | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
I just still cannot believe that they would come out to | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
a 19-year-old lad who has broken down and the car is obviously | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
NOT going to get him to his destination | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
and decide that their position | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
was they were just going to drive away and leave him. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
'Thanks only to a friend, Mark managed to get home to York | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
'and then got a train to Devon the following day. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
'But his car was left sitting at the side of the road, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
'outside a garage in Leeds | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
'and the family were eventually obliged to scrap it.' | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
I think we got £180 for a car with four new tyres | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
and a tank full of fuel on it... that probably, the tyres | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
and the fuel, would have been more than the 180 quid! | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
So it really didn't do us | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
any favours having to scrap it in that way. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
'I want to get to the bottom of what went wrong here. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
'So I e-mailed the RAC a couple of days ago | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
'to get their side of the story and, hey presto, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
'I've got a response.' | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
Pete Williams from the RAC has e-mailed my office | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
and said that Mr Endacott cancelled his agreement in May 2012, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
so they thought the problem would be put to bed. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
He then said, "Does he want it reopened again?" | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
I said, "Yes, course he does!" | 0:17:31 | 0:17:32 | |
So they've now said they're going to have another look into it. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
I've got a good feeling about this one. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
'There are 44 million licensed drivers in the UK. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
'And last year we travelled over 300 billion miles on UK roads. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
'Perhaps unsurprisingly, quite a few of us also broke down. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
'There were 212,000 breakdowns last year on motorways alone, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
'meaning the recovery service were kept busy. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'So with this many vehicle users and this number of breakdowns, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
'how common is it for customers | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
'to be let down by their recovery service?' | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
Hi, Emma. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
'I'm going to ask someone who should know.' | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Emma, you're a motoring consumer journalist, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
so you hear about all sorts of problems. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Have you ever heard about one of the big breakdown recovery services | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
ever NOT getting somebody down when they WERE covered | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
and then refuse to get them home? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Well, I'm sure it does happen, but I have to say, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
this is not something that we come across very often at all, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
I think it's very rare. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I think in the main, the rescue and recovery business | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
is very reliable, and, you know, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
you pay for peace of mind and usually get it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
But, of course, there will be instances where people are let down, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
as is the case in any industry. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Can you think of any acceptable reason why that wouldn't happen? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
No, not really. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
If you've paid for a certain amount of cover, then you should get it. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Really what you need to do is just make sure you know | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
what your policy covers you for. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
I think that's the main mistake a lot of people make, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
is that they think they've paid for more cover than they actually have, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
so just read the terms and conditions, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
know what you're buying and then relax. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
'Following that chat, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
'I'm wondering whether there was anything in Roy and Mark's | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
'terms and conditions that might justify the RAC | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
'leaving Mark at the roadside.' | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
I've pulled up an online version of Roy's RAC policy document. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
And it clearly states here that he does have | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
At Home, Roadside, Recovery and Onward Travel | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
for him and his family. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
So what exactly does all that cover mean? | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Well, their definition for Roadside is, quote: | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
"We'll fix your vehicle at the roadside, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
"as long as you're over a quarter of a mile away from home. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
"If we are unable to fix your vehicle, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
"we'll tow you up to ten miles to a destination of your choice, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
"local garage or a place of safety." | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
So, box ticked, he's got that. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Recovery means: | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
"We'll take you, up to seven passengers and your car | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
"to a chosen destination anywhere in mainland UK." | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
Again, box ticked. He's got that. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Onward Travel means: | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
"We'll ensure that your travel plans are not seriously interrupted | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
"if your car cannot complete the journey. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
"We will provide you with | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
"a replacement vehicle for up to three days, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
"or overnight accommodation or alternative transport costs." | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Now, we know for a fact that Mark wasn't given the option | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
of where he was going to be taken to, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
he was simply dropped off at a local garage. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
He was told that they wouldn't take him all the way back to Devon | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
because it was too far, his car wasn't worth it, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
plus the driver would have gone over his ten-hour shift. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
He also wasn't offered a replacement vehicle | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
or an overnight accommodation, or alternative transport costs. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
So, there is a discrepancy between what the RAC | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
are promising here in their policy document | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and what the Endacott family were actually offered, which is not good. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
'So, where do Roy and Mark actually stand here? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
'The London Association of Recovery Operators is a trade organisation | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
'that represents recovery companies, including the RAC, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
'so they should be able to tell us | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
'exactly what kind of service customers can expect.' | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
The recovery industry has changed a great deal over the last 25 years. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Cars have become a lot more reliable, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
less volumes of traffic out there. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
This has then led to inconsistencies of work to recovery operators, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
which has impacted on their business | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
and their availability to provide a service. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
'What are the most common call-outs?' | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Feedback from our members tell us that the | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
most common causes of breakdown are flat or faulty tyres, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
flat or faulty batteries, followed by accidents and misfuels | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
and electrical faults, starter motors and alternators. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Roughly 10% of breakdowns are caused by human error. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
'Mark Endacott was told his breakdown was due to human error, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
'but should that mean he's left stranded?' | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
If the customer has full breakdown cover, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
then he is entitled to have the car moved to the garage of his choosing. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
'But that didn't happen because Mark was also told his car was | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
'old and beyond repair. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
'Now, I didn't see any exclusions in his policy to cover this.' | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
The age of the car shouldn't impact on... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
On the ability for the recovery operator to do the job. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
As long as he has the relevant cover | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
or is willing to pay for that service, it shouldn't be an issue. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
'That's exactly what I thought. So, what about those driving hours? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
'I mean, after all, it is a long way between Leeds and Exeter.' | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
There are laws that will regulate the amount of driving hours | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
that a recovery operator will be able to work | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
and this will very much impact | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
on the service that the consumer receives. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
'These laws come from the EU | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
'and they give the maximum daily driving time as nine hours. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
'But despite these laws, Mark does say that companies can use | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
'a relay system to transport vehicles and provide a courtesy car | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
'to the customer to make sure they get from A to B. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
'Well, that clearly didn't happen in this case.' | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
They've been called upon, in a breakdown, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
to deliver on what the premium was paid for. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
And they drove off. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
I still cannot believe they would do that. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
'Nor me. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
'So what does Mark advise | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
'if you have a complaint against your service provider?' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
If the customer is not happy with their breakdown cover, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
they should talk to their service provider, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
just to make sure they are entitled to that full service. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
If they don't get any joy with the call handler, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
talk to their manager or supervisor. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
'That's all well and good, but in Roy and Mark's case | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
'they had no joy getting a response to their complaints | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
'with anyone at the RAC, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
'and I'm convinced they didn't get the service they should have.' | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Time to call the RAC and find out what's gone wrong in Roy's case. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
They're probably just going to be saying, "I'm ever so sorry, it shouldn't have happened," | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
which is fair enough, we all make mistakes, but then I'll say, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
"Well, hang on, what are you going to do about it?" | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
DIALLING TONE | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
'I get through to his voice mail, so I leave a message.' | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Hi, Pete, good morning to you. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
It's Dominic Littlewood calling from the BBC. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
I wonder if you'd be kind enough to give us a call back, please. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
'I'm sure he will, but if he doesn't, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
'I'll just try him again a little later on.' | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Now, one of the things Mark was told was that his breakdown | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
'was due to driver error, something he's always denied. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
'But what kind of driver errors DO cause breakdowns | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
'and what can you do to avoid them? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
'I've come to meet mechanic Jim Piercy at his garage | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
'in southeast London.' | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
Hello, Jim, nice to meet you. Thanks for agreeing to see me. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
I want a bit of advice. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
A lot of the time, people keep driving and driving | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
until they do break down and then it causes panic stations. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Show us what people should be doing, then. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
The first thing they should be doing is checking their oil level, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
which is... On most cars now, the dipstick will have a colour on it. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
You take the dipstick out, you clean it first. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
Make sure it's bone dry and once it's bone dry, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
you put it back in the dipstick hold, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
all the way down and straight the way out. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
-Yeah. -And then you can see the oil onto the crease, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
which is the mark that shows this is OK. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
Now, the person I'm trying to help out | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
was told the reason his car had broken down | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
was because it had TOO MUCH oil in it. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Does that sound like a genuine reason? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
Yeah, that's just as bad as having not enough oil in it | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
because with too much oil, it burns the oil, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
the oil goes into the catalytic converter and it soots it up | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
and it stops it from running. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
So it's important not to go under or over? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Yep, just as important, yeah. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
If you go under, of course, what's the worst-case scenario? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Engine failure. Engine'll seize, it's a throwaway. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
OK, what are the other important things, then? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
One people would worry about is the water, the coolant. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
-We used to have a radiator with a cap on... -Yep. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
..it doesn't exist any more, does it? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
No. Usually they're an expansion tank and they've got a screw on top | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
and they should, or most of them do, carry a warning. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
-Never remove it when it's hot. -Right. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
-Because they build up pressure. -Yeah, OK. Like a volcano? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
And it's steam, yeah, added pressure | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
and if you try to take it off, you'll just... | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
-The water'll go, pffft, over the top, dangerous. -You'll burn yourself. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
But once it's chilled - you should do it in the morning before you start off on your journey - | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
just unscrew the cap. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
-You're not just filling it with water. -Or antifreeze. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Or antifreeze, it should be a mix, usually around about a 50-50 mix. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
'And Jim has one more simple piece of advice to help us | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
'avoid the dreaded breakdown.' | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Get your car serviced once a year. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
'Well, I have to say, it's encouraging to know | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
'that some of the more minor vehicle malfunctions CAN be avoided | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
'if you just spend a little bit of time | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
'keeping on top of basic maintenance. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
'Now, I need to get back onto the RAC.' | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
'Morning, press office.' | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
Oh, hi, good morning, is Pete Williams there, please? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
'Speaking.' | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Oh, Pete, hi, good morning, it's Dominic Littlewood from the BBC. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
'Hi, hi, how are you?' | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
I'm all right, thanks, Pete, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
I haven't caught you at a bad time, have I? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
-'No, no, it's fine.' -Ah, brilliant. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Pete, I think you were half expecting my call. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
You're obviously quite familiar with the story, I think, aren't you, Pete? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
'Yes, I am.' | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
Just want to know...what went wrong with Mr Endacott. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
'Yeah, basically, you know, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:12 | |
'we reviewed the decision that was made back in, sort of... | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
'Whilst his first approach to us was in March, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
'I think the actual breakdown was 12 March, was it?' | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
I've got 19 March. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
-'19 March, right, OK.' -Yeah. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
'Obviously we reviewed how we'd handled the breakdown and the call | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
'and we'd stood by that decision. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
'Obviously, now, you've come back to us, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
'we've reviewed it and actually, we don't agree, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
'we don't feel we served Mr Endacott appropriately in that instance.' | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
'This is good news, hopefully we might get somewhere. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
'Pete goes on to say that they're looking into | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
'what they can do to rectify this. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
'But I still want to try and get to the bottom | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
'of why this happened in the first place.' | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
Pete, can I just ask you one or two questions? | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
When I read the story about this and heard all about it, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
what slightly concerned me - | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
it's an older vehicle, it's a Y-reg car - | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
would there be a difference in this breakdown | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
if it was a newer, more expensive or even a sort of... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
you know, a high-end vehicle? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
'I don't believe so. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
'I can't understand why that would be any different, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
'but I can certainly ask the question of our operational team | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
'and the customer service guys.' | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
The other thing I'd like to ask is what's the procedure | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
if the destination journey is going to be a long one? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
So more than, say, 12 hours or 300 miles. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Do you have a certain cut-off point where a driver can't drive | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
or won't drive, for whether it's legal reasons | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
or just your own guidelines, or something? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
'There is an awful lot of legislation | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
-'around the mileage a driver can travel.' -Yeah. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
'Also, obviously, it's dependent on the level of cover somebody has. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
'If it's a recovery to home | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
'and you're talking about hundreds of miles, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
'then we would actually have to | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
'engage a proper recovery vehicle driver and they would be using tacho | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
'and meet the laws of the road in terms of driver hours. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
'But there shouldn't be a limit on the distance they would travel.' | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
So if something goes over hours, what would happen then? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Would they then be put in a hotel? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Would they then just be dropped off at a local garage? | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
'Yeah, we have an Onward Travel level of cover, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
'there we'd potentially put the driver on a train | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
'and recover the vehicle in time as well. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
'And there we can use a couple of recovery drivers. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
'It might be that they meet sort of halfway at Birmingham | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
'and the vehicle's then relayed on another vehicle, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
-'where they're starting afresh on a new tacho, so...' -Yeah. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
'Let me get the insight from the guys who deal with this | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
'on a day-to-day basis and I'll come back to you.' | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
If you could clarify that it'd be very interesting. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
'Absolutely, OK.' | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
Smashing. Nice talking to you, Pete, I'll wait for you to call back. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Thank you, then. Bye-bye. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
Right, I eventually got to speak to Pete from the RAC, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
I put a few questions to him and I've asked for some money back. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
Nothing greedy. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:57 | |
He said he's going to give me a call back this afternoon, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
so, that's about... three hours away, let's see. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
When the unexpected happens, it's nice to know that | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
you've got peace of mind and help is at hand. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
And there are loads of home emergency policies out there | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
to protect you when things go wrong. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
But I've heard from a lady whose boiler insurance | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
left her out in the cold. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
'Jean Bailey, from Buckinghamshire, had a battle that boiled over | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
'with her energy supplier E.ON. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:32 | |
'It all began in her previous home in Staffordshire.' | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
I lived in the house for 24 years, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
but the boiler I had only installed nine, ten years previous to that. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:47 | |
'Jean had the boiler serviced every year | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
'and when she switched her energy supplier three years ago, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
'for that extra peace of mind, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:54 | |
'Jean took out a boiler service contract with E.ON.' | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
Initially, the monthly contract was about £20. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
I set up a direct debit to pay for the monthly instalments. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
The contract, as far as I was aware, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
covered spare parts, service, everything. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
'And for two years, everything was cosy with the boiler, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
'but then in mid-November...' | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
When I got up in the morning the house was cold, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
so I realised that it hadn't come on. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
So I would go downstairs and have a look | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
and the pilot light wasn't on. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
In the evening it would probably be OK, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
but the following evening it maybe wouldn't come on again. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
That's when I realised there's something wrong with it. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
I rang E.ON, told them what the problem was, and they said, yes, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
they would send an engineer out. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
'And almost a week later, help finally arrived.' | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
When the young lad came, he looked at the boiler, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
but went upstairs to the linen cupboard, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
decided that there was some wires or something needed to be replaced, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
replaced them, tried the boiler again | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
and it did come on, so I thought the boiler was repaired. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
The next morning the house was cold and I was not a happy bunny! | 0:32:07 | 0:32:14 | |
'I can imagine! But the same engineer came straight back round.' | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
He'd had a look at all the wires | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
that he had put in and one of them was loose, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
so he repaired it, tried it again and it did come on and it was fine. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
I think it was fine for about two days after that. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
'Is that all?! | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
'The boiler went back to its old ways of intermittingly working! | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
'This became all the more frustrating | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
'as Jean was planning to put her house on the market | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
'and she couldn't do that with a busted boiler.' | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
I was getting really frustrated and annoyed | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
that I had been paying monthly instalments | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
for them to repair my boiler and they weren't doing it. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
'And what followed was another engineer's visit, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
'followed by a report, followed by a fourth visit!' | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
He stripped the boiler, put seals all around the boiler, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
and it worked while he was there. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Three, four days after that, it started intermittently | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
coming on and off, and by this time I had had enough. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
'I don't blame you. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
'Four visits and no fix, it's not what you pay £20 a month for, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
'that's for sure. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
'Having put her house on the market, Jean took drastic action.' | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
I decided that I must try and get an independent contractor | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
to come out and repair the boiler. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
I went on the internet, found this lad | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
and he said he would come and have a look. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
I was aware that I would have to pay it out of my own money, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
but I needed my boiler repaired. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
'Enter plumber Gary Everson.' | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
The other contractor said that it actually wasn't her boiler, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
it was the pump and the zone valve that was faulty | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
and they replaced both of them. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
'So E.ON thought it was to do with her central heating system, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
'not the boiler.' | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
As far as I'm concerned, the diagnosis was wrong. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
It was the actual boiler at fault, not the central heating system. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
The problem with Jean's boiler was intermittent, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
it was the switch and the flume that was causing the problem. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
When the independent engineer told me that there was two parts | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
that it could have been, I was so pleased that someone | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
could tell me there was a problem and that he could repair it. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
'Gary came back the next day with the parts and the job was done.' | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Once I had the parts, they were very easy to fit. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
The job took me roughly around four hours. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
That included the first visit and then the second visit. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
'And from that moment on, the boiler worked and Jean sold the house, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
'but she was still boiling at E.ON | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
'having paid them approximately 500 smackers | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
'and she now had forked out £306 for parts and labour to Gary. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
'It does make you wonder what was the point of having | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
'the E.ON protection plan in the first place!' | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
I cancelled the direct debit, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I decided I wasn't paying for something | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
if I wasn't getting a service | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
and then I decided to write to them confirming that | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
and complaining that after four times | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
they did not repair the boiler. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
'But the one thing Jean failed to ask for was a reimbursement | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
'of the cost of calling out the independent engineer.' | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
'E.ON allowed Jean to cancel | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
'and waived the £84 cancellation fee as a gesture of goodwill. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
'I should think so, too.' | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
'But did Jean handle this situation in the best way? | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
'Let's see what Which? have to say.' | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
If you're taking out, for example, a boiler repair contract and | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
you're having repeated visits to try and fix a problem with your boiler, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
then obviously that's pretty frustrating | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
and you're going to expect the boiler repair contract to cover you | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
to get the job done. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
If that's not happening, then the best course of action | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
is to make a case against the supplier | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
of that boiler repair contract | 0:36:06 | 0:36:07 | |
and say that the work being carried out is not being done | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
to a level of reasonable skill and care | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and that's under the Supply of Goods and Services Act. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
So, if you made that point in writing to the company, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
the onus does sit with them to make sure that | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
the contract that you formed | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
is being carried out with reasonable skill and care. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
'So, ultimately, the law is on your side | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
'if the problem isn't getting fixed.' | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
'We wrote to E.ON about Jean's case and they told us...' | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
'We asked them about paying her back | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
'for the independent engineer's costs. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
'They said that they had been unaware | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
'another fault had happened and...' | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
'So, no money then.' | 0:37:02 | 0:37:03 | |
Jean did what most of us would do | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
and she took matters into her own hands. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Now, sadly, she's been left out of pocket, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
but I suppose on the flip side, at least she's finally warm. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
'I've been trying to get some recompense for Roy Endacott, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
'whose son Mark was let down by the RAC after breaking down | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
'a long way from home.' | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
I just cannot believe a patrolman would just drive... | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
If he'd said, "I'll take you to the station or where can I take..." | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
To just drive off and leave him there, a young lad on his own... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
I still don't understand it at all. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
'I spoke to the press officer a few days ago and asked him | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
'some questions about Roy and Mark's case. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
'He promised to get back to me with some answers to those questions | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
'and I've just received an e-mail from him. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
'This is what it says...' | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
'He also admits that the RAC has many options for handling | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
'long-distance recoveries, including using several linked resources, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
'and adds that...' | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
'Well, it's too late for that in the Endacotts' case | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
'because the car has already been scrapped. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
'But in addition to their apology, the RAC is also offering Mark | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
'and Roy some recompense, and I'm on my way to Devon to tell them | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
'exactly what's on offer.' | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
Well, after a very long 3½-hour drive down from London | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
to Exeter St Davids, I've finally arrived at Roy and Mark's farm. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Very glad I didn't break down on the way, I've got to say. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
However, I haven't really planned this one out very well | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
because it's soaking wet, there's puddles everywhere | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
and I've come dressed as if I'm going to a wedding reception. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
-SHEEP BLEATS -Pardon? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
-Morning, Roy. Morning, Mark. -Morning. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-Nice to meet you both. -And you. -How you doing? -How are you? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Got to say, it's a total contrast to my normal day in the office, you know? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-I'm sure. -I'm a London boy, a city boy. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
I tell you what, though, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:40 | |
it was a long drive down just from London alone. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Took me about 3½ hours, was pouring down, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
but I remember thinking at the time, "It's not the sort of road | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
"you'd want to be breaking down on and not have some sort of backup," | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
and, of course, that's what happened to you, wasn't it? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Yeah, I know... It wasn't great not having a car | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
to get around with for a little while there. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
There's also a lack of cafes. Is there one around here where I can perhaps get a cup of tea? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
Shall we go indoors and have a cup of tea? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
Ah, that's very kind of you, thanks very much, lead the way. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
'Now, the main things Roy and Mark were after from the RAC | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
'was an apology and some compensation. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
'So I'm hoping they're going to be happy.' | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
I've spoken to the RAC, they are embarrassed about this. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
They have written to us, they have given you an apology, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
which I'll pass on to you and they would also like to give you | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
a small token, it's £30 worth of high street vouchers. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
You're not going to book six weeks in the Seychelles with that, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
it's more a token just to say, "Look, sorry, here we go, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
"have those and go and spend them on whatever." | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Roy, again, they've apologised to you. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
They are embarrassed about the situation, they'll learn from it. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
What they're going to do for you is basically what you want - | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
your £205 premium that you've paid, they're going to refund that to you. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
The train fare that you paid was just under £103, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
they're going to refund you that money as well. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
They also are going to offer you a family membership | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
free for the next year, the same level of cover | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
that you had before, they want to entice you back as a customer. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
OK, that's great. I mean, that's all we ever wanted, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
but just couldn't get through the door | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
to get them to... address any of that. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
Would you consider going back to them? | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Yeah, I would, I think, it's just the acknowledgement | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
that they got it wrong and I think the importance is | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
that this doesn't happen to somebody else. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Yeah, exactly, and I think bringing it to our attention has been | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
very beneficial because hopefully somebody in the future | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
in a similar situation - particularly if it's a young lady - | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
hopefully won't ever fall into the position that you found yourself in. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
How do you feel about everything? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Yeah, I'm just glad I got an apology, really. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-That's... -That was important. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
That was what I wanted, was just them to say sorry | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
for stranding me up there. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
-Just, that makes me a lot happier about the situation. -Yeah. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
And I'd just like to say thank you to you | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
because without your input, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
we wouldn't have got any redress on this at all. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
I thank you for bringing it to my attention because all we all want as consumers is good customer service, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
-that's all we want, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
-We've paid for something, give us what we paid for. -Yeah. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Look after us, yeah, or lose us for ever, you know. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Right, I'm going to be off, back to London, it's a 3½-hour journey. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
I don't suppose you've got a couple of lamb chops going spare before I set off? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
MARK AND ROY LAUGH | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
What I like about this story is | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
Roy and Mark weren't being unreasonable, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
they didn't want anything out of the ordinary, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
they just wanted their out-of-pocket expenses back | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
and they wanted the RAC to get a wake-up call to make sure | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
that this sort of situation never happens to anybody else again. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
And I think I've achieved BOTH of those. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
I think Dom's really done a great job in getting the result | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
that we all wanted, which was just an apology, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
we got compensation for both Mark's train fare | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
and the annual subscription, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
and just the recognition | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
that this shouldn't happen to anybody else either | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
because I think that's the biggest thing of all | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
to come out of this, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:01 | |
that I wouldn't want any other parent to have their child | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
left by the roadside | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
and the patrolman to just drive off and leave them there. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
That's got to be the best outcome of all. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 |