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Every day we're bombarded with conflicting messages about | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
how to live a healthy, happy life. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
One minute we're told something is the right thing to do, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
the next it's the complete opposite, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
and we're left without a clue which advice to follow. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
So we've been wading through the confusion | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
to separate the scare stories from the truth, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
to help you work out what's best for you. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Hello, and welcome to Health - Truth Or Scare? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
The series that gets to the bottom of all of those stories | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
and headlines that like to make us think they know what's really good | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
for our health, but, of course, as you and I have found out, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Kevin, they so rarely do. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Today we're talking about conditions that really do | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
affect millions of us. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
They might be common, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
but they're also the subject of some serious controversy. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
And today we'll be finding out why. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
Coming up - they're the most widely prescribed drugs in the country, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
but should millions of people really be taking statins? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
Telling people to stop them really is placing them in grave danger. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Heart attacks and strokes, these are not messing around. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
These are serious bad things you don't want to happen to you. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
And in the wake of reports claiming that thousands might be taking | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
asthma medication they don't need, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
I find out if I'm one of them. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
And we'll see what that shows in a little while. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Now, the chances are that if you're over 50 and you're not one of | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
the reported six million people already taking statins, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
then you more than likely know somebody who is. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
The Government and the NHS both say these drugs have saved the lives | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
of tens of thousands of people with heart disease. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
But, you know, Kevin, when we look at some of the headlines, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
it's very difficult to find anybody that can agree on whether or not | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
statins are actually going to save your life or shorten it. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
If you're taking statins and you read this headline - | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
"Are millions taking statins needlessly?" - | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
what are you going to think? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
And this one says statins ARE safe | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
and we should be giving them to six million more people. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
You couldn't get more of a conflicting argument than that. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Absolutely. But, as I found out, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
the argument against statins is gaining momentum, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
fanning the flames of a controversy that, quite frankly, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
just won't go away. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Heart disease. It's long been one of Britain's biggest killers. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
But over the past decade it seems we've started to win | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
the battle against it. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
In part, that's believed to be thanks to drugs like statins. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
They help lower the body's cholesterol levels and reduce | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
the risk of heart attacks and strokes. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Now, for me, that's a big deal because my family | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
has a history of diabetes and high cholesterol, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
which means we have a greater risk of getting heart disease. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
And if anyone has that elevated risk, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
they could be prescribed statins by their GP, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
not to treat heart disease, but to reduce their chance of getting it. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
It's that that makes statins one of the most widely prescribed drugs | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
in the country. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
But they're also very controversial. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
At the heart of the argument is a range of side effects that some | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
sufferers say can be debilitating, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
but many experts dismiss. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
A major review of statins has found that the anti-cholesterol drug is | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
safe and effective, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
and that any harmful side-effects have been exaggerated. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
But this was met with allegations that statins don't work as well | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
as it's claimed. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
The arguments got so heated that it even lead to | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
a so-called statins war between the country's leading medical journals - | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
one saying reports of side effects are massively overexaggerated, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
another saying the side-effects outweighed the benefits. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Both sides of the argument are extremely vocal, and, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
you know, I can only imagine how confusing it must be if | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
you're offered statins by your GP, to then go on and read negative | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
newspaper reports about how you shouldn't touch them. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
And with my family history of high cholesterol there's a good chance | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
I might be recommended statins by my GP in the next few years. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
So, before that happens I want to find out if the side-effects | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
can outweigh the benefits, and I'm starting with someone | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
who has experienced both sides of the argument. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Coleen Gill was, until recently, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
one of the estimated six million statins users in the UK. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
She says the drug helped change her life after | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
a heart attack ten years ago. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
The heart attack was a big shock to the system. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
It was a shock to the family as well. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Well, they'd said at the hospital | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
that I had a really high cholesterol, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
it was off the mark, so to speak. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
And they put me on statins, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
I had to take them when I left, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
as he said, forever. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Along with some big changes to her diet and lifestyle, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Coleen says the statins helped transform her health, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and as a result she even retrained as a fitness coach. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
But after taking statins for more than three years | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
she started to develop side-effects. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
I was just starting to get tingling in my fingers and I thought, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
"Why can't I feel my fingers?" | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
And I wasn't sure, to be fair, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
whether it was the statins or what, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
but there was talk about side-effects. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Worried about losing the feeling in her fingers, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and with her cholesterol safely under control, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Coleen decided to come off statins altogether, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
against the wishes of her doctor. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
He wasn't really happy for me to come off them completely. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:45 | |
But you know your own body, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
and I just felt it was right to do that. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
And I haven't looked back. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Coleen made a controversial decision, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
because the official advice is that once a patient | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
has started taking statins, they should take them for life. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
She was one of the reported 20% of users who experience side-effects. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
But with around six million people on statins, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
perhaps it's no surprise that some do. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Professor Liam Smeeth was part of a wide-ranging review of statins, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
with access to almost five million patients' records. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
I guess one of the questions that the patient will ask is, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
"Hang on a minute, side-effects, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
"what kind of side-effects could I get?" | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Well, there's one side-effect in particular that has received a great | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
deal of media attention, and that is where the statins cause muscle pain. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
And the problem we've got is aches and pains are really common, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
virtually everyone gets them at some point or another, and it's | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
very difficult to know whether they're caused by the statins or not. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
But there's one much more serious potential side-effect | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
that Liam says experts are sure of. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
And it's one that I find quite worrying. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Statins might increase your risk of developing type II diabetes. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
My family has got a history of diabetes. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
My mum passed away with diabetes, both my sisters have diabetes, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
so would that have a massive effect on you advising me to take statins? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Possibly, yes. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
I do feel for people here because this is a complicated story to tell. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Statins do increase your risk of developing diabetes a little bit. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
It's worth taking that small increased risk of diabetes | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
because there's huge benefits on heart attacks and strokes. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Statins reduce your risk of having a heart attack or a stroke | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
by something like a quarter or a third. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
But that's certainly not the impression you might get from | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
some reports about studies into statins, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
which, Liam says, could have led people to make dangerous | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
decisions about their health. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Do you get frustrated by the headlines telling people | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
to stop taking statins? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I do get frustrated, yeah. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
I get frustrated by headlines saying statins are terrible, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
they don't work, they cause all these terrible symptoms, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
you should stop them. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
The science is clear - these are beneficial drugs | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
with low levels of side-effects, as far as we're aware. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
And telling people to stop them | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
really is placing them in grave danger. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Heart attacks and strokes, these are not messing around, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
these are serious bad things you don't want to happen to you. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
It's a compelling argument. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
But within the medical profession | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
there are still those critical of statins. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Dr Malcolm Kendrick is a busy GP | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
who has agreed to meet me after work. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
He disagrees with Liam Smeeth, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
and says statins' side-effects are hugely underestimated. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
I think the side-effect issue is much greater than is accepted, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
if you like. There have been studies in the States. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
One showed that over 60% of people stopped taking their statin | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
after a year - in 70% of those, it was because of a side-effect, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
an adverse effect. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
I sometimes say to patients, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:40 | |
"Statins add 15 years to your life - | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
"they don't make you live 15 years longer, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
"they just make you feel 15 years older." | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
One of the other problems that I don't like is... | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
if you're prescribed statins, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
people tend to stop doing other things, healthy things. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Because they think the statins are going to just do the job. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
They think they're being protected, so they think, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
"I'll take my tablet and I'll do whatever I like." | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
So, Malcolm, do you think we should stop prescribing statins altogether? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
No, not entirely. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
The only group of people I would say yeah, it might be worthwhile, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
is men who have already had a heart attack or a stroke or angina | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
or some sort of heart disease problem, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
and therefore it's worth trying it. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
And if you get no side-effects, well, fine, carry on, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
it's not a problem. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
Malcolm says the evidence isn't as strong for women, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
whether they have a heart condition or not. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
I say, "You know what? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
"The benefits here are just really non-existent, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
"or so small as to be non-existent." | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
There's only one thing everyone seems to agree on, that statins | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
are effective for some people who already have heart disease. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
But there are millions taking statins | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
who don't have the condition, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
and if your GP says you have more than a 10% chance of developing it | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
in the next decade, you could be prescribed statins | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
to prevent it happening. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
So what should people faced with that decision do? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
On hand to help is David Spiegelhalter, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
President of the Royal Statistical Society, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
and, crucially, someone who has also been faced | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
with the choice of whether to take statins. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
So, David, the dilemma seems to be that, with taking statins, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
it's all about risks. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Risk with heart disease, risk with side-effects. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Can statistics help us weigh up that decision? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
I think statistics can really help, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
and I'm relying on it to help me | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
because I'm dithering about taking statins myself. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
I'm 63, I've got slightly raised cholesterol | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
and I'm taking blood pressure tablets already, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
so I'm at reasonable risk of a heart attack or stroke | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
-in the next ten years. -OK. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
I put myself through a risk calculator, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
you can see online, and it works out I've got about an 18% chance | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
of a heart attack or stroke in the next ten years. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
So one way to think about this is through this rather | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
frightening-looking display, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
which is 100 possible versions of "me" in ten years' time. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
And 18 of them have got little orange colouring on them, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
which indicates a heart attack or stroke. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Now, one of these is going to happen, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:00 | |
and chances are this won't happen and I'll be OK, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
but 18 of these 100, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:04 | |
I'm going to have had a heart attack or stroke. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Now, I'd like to reduce that number, and it turns out that, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
if I took statins every day, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
roughly about six of these can be taken off. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
So, David's personal risk of developing heart disease | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
in the next decade drops from 18% to 12% if he takes statins. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
Critics say the risk of developing side-effects | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
is much greater than the 6% drop | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
in the risk of developing heart disease. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
But David disagrees, estimating the risk of side-effects at 2%. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
And so, actually, to put it rather pessimistically, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
maybe 2/100 of these will get some side effects | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
from taking the statins. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
I've taken away six of the heart attacks or strokes, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
but I've put in some side effects. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Now, I think, for me, six versus two, yeah, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
I think it's worth taking the statins for me, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
but for someone else that might not be the case. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
And to show me how that trade-off differs for someone | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
with a smaller risk of developing heart disease, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
David is using a hypothetical, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
and I must say rather handsome, example. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
This individual is standing in for someone who's just at the level | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
where the official Nice guidelines would recommend | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
that their GP offers them statins. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
And that happens when there's about a 10% risk of | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
a heart attack or stroke over the next ten years. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
So out of these 100 possible futures for this individual, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
-for 10 of them there's going to be a heart attack or stroke. -OK. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
If this person takes statins every day for the next ten years, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
about three of these will disappear. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
The side-effects, though, stay at roughly the same level. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Around two of these people will have reasonably | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
severe side effects over the next ten years. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
You've got gain in three of these possible futures, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
but a loss in two of them. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
So the trade-off is much more finely balanced. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
I don't know what to think now, whether or not... | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
It's just seeing those two purple ones still there, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
just makes me think that if you are at low risk | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
you're going to be probably more inclined to think, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
"Well, I don't need to take them just yet." | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
And you might be able to then change your lifestyle a bit, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
take more exercise, improve your diet and so on, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
reduce your drinking. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
When I first started making this film | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
I was hoping for a clear answer. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
And while there's no doubt statins are powerful drugs | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
if you've already had a heart attack, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
if you haven't then the decision could be much harder. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
The risk of developing side-effects | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
is very low, but it's still there. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
So it's up to you to decide if the risk is worth it. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
And, either way, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
statins are just one weapon in the whole armoury of things | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
we can use to combat heart disease. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
And that's something Coleen knows well. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
I think you should listen to hear what your body is telling you. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
I think you should think about doing more exercise and eating properly. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
I have to say, Angela, I'm now pretty confident about | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
what I think of statins after making that film. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
But clearly it's a controversy that shows little sign of dying down. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
And here's another. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
Because next we're tackling something else that's had its | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
fair share of headlines. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
And this one is particularly close to your heart, Angela. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
You're right, Kevin, it is. But I think, anatomically speaking, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
it's probably a bit closer to my lungs | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
because what we're talking about now is asthma. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Now, I have to admit that there aren't quite as many people | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
using inhalers as there are taking statins, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
but millions do, and I'm one of them. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
And I never go anywhere without this. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
But, again, there's no shortage of headlines | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
that seem to be saying that some of us | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
really don't need the medicines | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
that are being prescribed by our doctors. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
Take a look at this one. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
"A third of asthmatics may not have the condition." | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, you could be forgiven for thinking that really nobody | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
has got asthma at all, but I can tell you, as I found out, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
that really is far from the case. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Keeping fit has always been really important to me, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
but many years ago I was diagnosed with a condition | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
which some sufferers say impacts on their ability | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
to lead an active lifestyle. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Now, when I was in my 20s I had what my doctor prescribed | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
as an asthma attack. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
And as a result he gave me one of these - an inhaler. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Now, over the years I've had bouts of asthma | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
that have come and then gone. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
But, I'm glad to say that I've never been in a position where it's | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
actually got in the way of me enjoying a very active life. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Now, I can go months, even years, without having an asthma attack | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and I never really know what it is that triggers it. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
But I have to say, having read some of the headlines recently, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
I'm beginning to wonder whether I've actually got asthma at all. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
And that's because in January 2017 | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
a lot of papers ran the same headline, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
saying a third of people with asthma had been misdiagnosed, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
and that could mean more than one million people in the UK | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
are taking medication they don't need. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
GP Andy Whittamore is clinical lead for Asthma UK, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
and he says asthma is a much more complicated condition | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
than you might first realise. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
What are the things that might trigger asthma? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Well, everybody's diffident. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
So if somebody is predisposed to asthma it could be pollution, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
it could be hay fever, allergies. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
Whether it's in the family or not, whether they've got other allergic | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
conditions, it could even be hormones and stress, in some cases. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Does that make it so very difficult to actually diagnose? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
There is not one easy test to say if somebody has got asthma or not. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
And even with the tests we have got, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
none of them fit every pattern of asthma that we see. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
It's not clear cut at all. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
When you put it like that it's easy to think that those headlines | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
are accurate. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
But Andy isn't so sure they really apply to us here in the UK. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
I think the important thing to say is this was a snap shot | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
in a small group of people in Canada. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I don't think people should be too concerned that they've got | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
the wrong diagnosis, but certainly if they're concerned | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
they should speak to their GP or nurse or specialist. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
While the headlines might not be completely accurate, there is | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
no doubt there are people in the UK who've been diagnosed with asthma | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
when they might in fact have other conditions, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
like vocal cord problems or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
known as COPD. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
They could have spent years being treated for asthma | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
that they don't have, so getting the diagnosis right is vital. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
Now, when I was first told I had asthma, back in the '60s, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
it was thought of very differently to today. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Who's next, please? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
I've not been tested for asthma since, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
so Andy has invited me to his surgery in Portsmouth to find out | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
if my 50-year-old diagnosis still stands. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
So, tell me when you were diagnosed. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Well, I was in my 20s, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
and it just literally came out of the blue. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
I'd covered a story that was a particularly distressing story | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
for me, and I came home and the lawn at the front of the house | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
had just been cut, and I think I probably took in | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
a lot of grass pollen and suddenly I couldn't breathe. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
The attacks subsided and I took myself off to my GP, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
who promptly diagnosed asthma. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Like a lot of asthmatics, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
my symptoms have come and gone over the years. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
At one point I even thought I may no longer need an inhaler. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Andy says my experience is common, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
and he's going to run some tests to see if he can find out more about | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
whether what I think is asthma really is. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
If you came to me today thinking you might have asthma, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
what I'd be saying to you is, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
"Who else in your family has got asthma? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
"Have you got any other allergies? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
"Hay fever, eczema, things like that," | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
to see what that sort of pattern is. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
After quizzing me about my symptoms, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Andy is giving me a range of tests to see if my lungs | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
are inflamed and my airways constricted - | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
two strong signs of having asthma. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
If you could blow into that as hard and as fast as you can. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
OK. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
Something we're doing a lot more of now is spirometry. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
It looks like a mobile phone, doesn't it? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Good. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
Well done. Not a lot of difference. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
So one new test with this machine is called a feno. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Breathe in for me. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Bit harder. Perfect. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Keep it going. Keep it going. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
And we'll see what that shows in a little while. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
So, having done those tests, what is that going to tell you? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
Well, what those tests will do is tell me how your lungs are now. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
The pattern of symptoms, but also what these results show as well. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
It can tell us whether you're more likely to respond | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
to medication or not. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
I'll get the results later on. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
If I do have asthma, it's certainly not severe. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
For others, however, like Louise, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
the symptoms can be much more serious. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
I was diagnosed with asthma when I was 28. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
It's been under control up until two and a half years ago. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
At its worst I can't even leave the house. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
I think it's changed from asthma. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
We have chest conditions in my family, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
and I think it could be maybe one of those chest conditions. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
To find out if she's right, Louise has come to | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
a pilot programme called the Mission Clinic, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
which runs specialist tests in GPs' surgeries | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
to give patients an accurate diagnosis. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
Asthma consultant Dr Tom Brown regularly sees patients who've lived | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
with what they thought was asthma for years, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
only for his team to discover it's not. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Keep it going as long as you can. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
So in the Mission Clinic last week | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
we saw ten patients who had a diagnosis from their GP records | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
of asthma, but actually, after the Mission Clinic, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
only five left with a diagnosis of asthma. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
So only 50%. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
The other five patients were diagnosed | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
with different breathing problems | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
that all require their own unique form of treatment. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
And that's exactly what Dr Tom reveals after Louise's tests. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
But her diagnosis is far from clear cut. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
They suspect she has COPD, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
a long-term lung condition which causes breathing difficulties. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
In terms of the overall diagnosis, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
it may well be that you fall part-way | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
between the two diagnoses of asthma and COPD. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
You can have a sort of middle ground condition, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
which we call an overlap syndrome, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
whereby you've got some features of asthma and some features of COPD. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
It's really important that we try and unpick what actually | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
the main drivers are, so that we can treat those individually | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
to make absolutely sure we get control of your symptoms. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
This could mean that Louise has been on the wrong medication | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
for years, leaving her COPD untreated. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
She needs to come back for more tests to confirm the diagnosis, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
but in the meantime she's leaving with new medication | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
and she's been referred for help to stop smoking, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
which will definitely help to ease her symptoms. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
I need to take steps in my life | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
to have an active life | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
and to live for as long as I possibly can. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
I have to say, that when I saw those headlines | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
claiming a third of people diagnosed with asthma | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
might not actually have it, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
I just assumed they meant people | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
didn't really have any sort of problem, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
not that the asthma diagnosis could be hiding another condition | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
altogether, one needing very different treatment. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
But while my breathing problems have never been as bad as Louise's, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
I'm still intrigued to find out if my GP got it right back in the '60s. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
Well, Andy, earlier you did some very hi-tech tests, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
-and the conventional tests. -Yes. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
-What does it prove? Do I have asthma? -Yes. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Based on these tests, I think you do have asthma. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I don't think it's a problem for you at the moment. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
As well as the tests, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
Andy also quizzed me in detail about my health, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
and that helped him learn much more about my asthma. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
He said my attacks don't appear to be triggered by an allergy | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
to something like pollen or pollution. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
And knowing that means my medication can be tweaked to make it | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
work more effectively for me. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
What I would like to do is try you on some medication | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
to see whether we can improve on the breathing tests at all, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
to see whether that improves | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
maybe the cough and breathing problems | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
that you're getting at the moment. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
Asthma can, of course, change over time, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
so even if you're certain that it is because of your breathing problems, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
there's no harm in asking your GP | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
if there are more effective ways to manage it. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
And even though I've had my asthma confirmed, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
I'm still not going to let it get in the way of the sports | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
that I enjoy. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
-Good game. -Well played. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Still to come, Angela is challenging more claims around asthma, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
this time whether pollution can cause the condition. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
If there's higher pollution days | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
you're going to get more asthma attacks, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
you're more likely to get admitted to hospital with pneumonia | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
and you're also more likely to have ongoing problems with your asthma | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
or with your breathing problems as you get older. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Last year, dementia overtook heart disease | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
as the biggest killer in the UK. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
And for anyone worried about developing it as we get older, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
the advice has not been only to stay healthy and give our bodies | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
a workout, but to give our brains a daily workout too. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
So millions of us now do just that, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
whether that's by tackling a crossword, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
doing the puzzle pages in the paper | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
or learning a language. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
Or perhaps, as many people have done, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
taking up one of the so-called brain training games. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
The only trouble with that is that when it was revealed that | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
some of the companies were making very bold claims about their | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
brain training software, actually it had no proof it really worked. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
So the whole idea that we could actually | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
train our brains to be better | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
started to seem just a little bit far-fetched. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Were we really protecting ourselves against Alzheimer's | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
or just getting a lot better at doing the games? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Well, the argument that those headlines started is still raging. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
So we've asked Steve Brown to investigate, and see if | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
he can stretch his own brain while he's at it. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
As an athlete, I was used to pushing myself hard, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
because I knew the more I exercised the fitter my body became. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
But memory grandmaster David Thomas | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
says that the same approach can work for our brains too. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
He says we can all learn techniques to make us smarter, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
because he did exactly that. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
It must be something to do with your brain. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
Surely some people were built better at remembering than others? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
So, for me, I was a fireman, failing my exams. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
I went out and bought this book on memory, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
and just by practising in my bedroom, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
eight months later I go the World Memory Championships | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and come fourth. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
And I also became a Guinness record-breaker for reciting | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
pi to 22,500 digits. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
That's a lot of numbers! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
And David says anyone can do what he's done. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
With a bit of applied thinking, we can all make our brains better. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
To prove it, he's showing me how to memorise 50, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
yes, just 50 numbers. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
The greatest thing about improving your memory is it's not based | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
on intellect or intelligence. It's based on techniques. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
So it's not about the size of your brain | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
or how good your brain is - | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
it's about learning and using your brain to the best of its ability? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
It's just simple association, that's all it is. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
David tells me to associate pairs of numbers with famous people | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
in places around my house. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
And by remembering the sequence or story of where they appear | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
I'll also remember the numbers. That's the theory, anyway. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
So what you do is you turn each number into a letter, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
So one is A, two is B, three is C. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-So 23 would be BC. -Yeah. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
That becomes Bill Clinton. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Right, OK. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
So, at the end of your drive, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
imagine Bill Clinton giving a speech. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Yeah, OK. So I'm pulling up and there's Bill Clinton. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
'Not all the numbers have to follow alphabetical order. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
'In fact, mixing it up can make them more memorable. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
'Take the number 10, for example.' | 0:26:50 | 0:26:51 | |
Who would you say is the most memorable Prime Minister? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-Let's go with Thatcher because it's going to be a memorable... -Yeah. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
So I've got to put faces and names to numbers, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
put them around my house, remember it, and reel them off? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Sounds like a wager to me. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Let's see how we get on. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
David has given me a week to memorise all 50 digits, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
but it's the biggest thing I've probably had to learn since school, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
so it's definitely going to stretch my little grey cells. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
David's techniques are really impressive, and they've been used | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
by professional memory experts for generations the world over. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
But it turns out they can also be beneficial to those of us | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
that aren't studying to be memory grandmasters. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Because, according to the headlines, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
challenging our minds and keeping them active could have | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
a big impact on the biggest killer in the country - dementia. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
But when it comes to the best way to do it, they really can't agree, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
and the most controversial methods of all | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
are the so-called brain training games | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
that millions of us around the world play every day. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
While some stories say they make you smarter and help fight dementia, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
others say brain training is a waste of time, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
and last year one American company was fined for making claims | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
their games had health benefits, without having any proof. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
I've never really tried those apps, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
but I know my mum was a big fan for a while, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
after my Auntie Margaret beat her at one game that said it could | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
judge the age of a player's brain. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
My age was something like 87, and then I said, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
"So what's this all about?" | 0:28:21 | 0:28:22 | |
And she done the game and she came out at 25 or something. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
-She's six years older than me... -Yeah. -..so I was none too pleased. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
So I thought, "Right, there's no way Auntie Margaret | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
"is going to be younger than me." | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
So my mum practised and practised to get the better of Auntie Margaret, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
but she quickly realised how to get the better of the game. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
So if on one of the segments I didn't achieve five, the maximum, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
I'd switch it off and start again, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
because it was all about beating the previous score. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
It's practice, and the more you practise | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
the quicker and better you get. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Now my mum has traded in the brain training games | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
for crosswords and sudoku. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Not because she thinks they're going to make her brain any younger, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
but simply cos she enjoys them. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
And some stories have also poured scorn on the suggestion | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
there might be anything beneficial about brain training of any kind. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
But, if the results of some of the latest research into dementia | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
is anything to go by, those critics may have jumped the gun. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
The Alzheimer's Society, which is behind the research, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
says there's a mounting body of evidence | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
that brain training does work. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
They are funding a huge study with thousands of volunteers | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
all over the age of 50. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Now, part of this study is using brain training games to influence | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
the ageing process and even help combat the onset of dementia. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
I'm meeting Anne Corbett from the Alzheimer's Society... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
-Hi. -How are you? -Very well. How are you? -Very well, thanks. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
..who is the research lead of this ground-breaking project. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
Anne, tell me a little bit about the Protect study. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
We're interested in following people over 50 | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
over quite a long time to see how their brain function changes | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
and what influences how it changes. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
And the brain training games is a nested study within Protect. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
And these brain training games aren't like the ones my mum did. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
They are designed to measure whether brainpower changes | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
over the length of the study. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
So things like memory, problem-solving, language. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Things like that. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
And we can look at how someone's performing on that and say, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
"Are you normal for your age?" | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
And, indeed, if we're looking at them over a long period of time, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
we can say, "Is your performance changing, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
"and is there something we should be worried about?" | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
And that's why we've got these two separate packages. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
And what's most encouraging is that for some older people, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
getting better at the game translates into improvement | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
in everyday tasks like cooking, shopping and using public transport. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
There was a correlation - people's day-to-day lives and | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
their functions got better through playing these games? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
-Yes, when they were playing these games. -Wow. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
But despite these positive signs, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Anne's not quite as dismissive | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
of some of those critical stories as I was expecting. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
"Brain training games may be a waste of time. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
"Scientists say that there's little evidence of real-world benefits." | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
But that's contradictory to what you're seeing | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
in some of your studies. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
In a way I sort of agree with them, in that they're saying | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
there is little evidence, and we do need a lot more research. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
There are a lot of brain training games and programmes out there | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
that people pay an awful lot of money for, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and some games are supported by clinical trials, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
and those games we might say are beneficial. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
-Like this, for example? -Potentially like this. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
We've seen statistically significant benefit | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
in people playing these games. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
A lot of the games out there don't have that kind of support. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
But for the games that do work, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
have their successes been exaggerated? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
What do you make of this? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
"Online brain training cuts risk of dementia by a third." | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
That's a bit stronger than anything we'd like to say. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
We can be pretty sure that brain training helps | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
the way that your brain works, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
but to directly jump and say that it cuts your risk of dementia, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
especially by a third, I'm not quite sure where that's come from. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
It might still be a few decades until we get concrete proof | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
that brain training really does help fend off dementia, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
but the early results are encouraging. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Meanwhile, I'm a few days into the memory challenge David set me, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
and it's definitely stretching my brain. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
It was tricky just trying to remember 50 digits, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
but then when he started saying, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:19 | |
"Right, you need to make the number into a story," | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
it just seemed like it meant more and more and more thinking, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
but it's starting to make more sense now. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Improving your memory is just one way | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
you can challenge your brain. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
There are other methods that it's claimed can help fend off | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
dementia too. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
Bonjour, everybody. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
'This is a local class of Alliance Francaise, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
'a group of nine people, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
'four of them over 50, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
'who meet every week to learn French. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
'And, I have to say, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
'it takes a bit more brainpower than some of those brain training games.' | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
HE SPEAKS FRENCH | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
'Some of the members are very clear about why they started the course.' | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
So why are you learning French? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
A few years ago I read a few articles in newspapers | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
and they were saying that proficiency with | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
a second language can ward off dementia. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
It's quite a challenge, really, to learn French. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
It's a good activity to do, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
it's good for my memory, I think. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
I thought I needed something, you know, to keep my brain going. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
We have a good group and it's a nice social occasion as well. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
Two examples - | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
one is in terms of place | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
and the other is in terms of time. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
'There's a big difference between the brainpower it takes to | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
'learn a language and the amount required to get a top score | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
'in a brain training game. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
'But Dr Clare Walton from the Alzheimer's Society says | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
'that doesn't matter - | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
'challenging your brain at all is what counts.' | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
-So we're just going to go to this room. -Let's go. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
So older people that keep their brains challenged | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
in their later years by playing games, crosswords, reading, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
tend to have lower rates of dementia as they get older. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
So it's really important that you keep challenging your brain. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
You can think of it like a muscle. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
If you keep exercising it it will stay fit and healthy. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
There's evidence to show that people that have complex jobs | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
and also people that know two languages across their whole lives, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
so bilinguals, have lower rates of dementia as well. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
But what makes activities like this so good for your brain | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
is that they combine learning with socialising. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
We do know that being more physically active, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
staying socially connected | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
and eating healthily can reduce your risk. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
So, really, for me, I think the best activities you can do | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
are the things that bring all of those together, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
and it should be things you enjoy as well. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
So it could be joining a dance class, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
a table tennis group, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
playing bridge. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
Something that keeps your brain sharp and challenges you. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
And despite claims that brain training is a waste of time, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
Clare says that there's evidence some apps might work | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
in the battle against dementia too. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
So do you find it exciting thinking there is positive development | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
in this area now? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I do find it exciting. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
You know, a person gets dementia every three minutes in the UK, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
so we have to find ways on a large scale that people can start | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
keeping their brains healthy. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
And we don't know that brain training is the answer yet | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
for dementia, but we are seeing | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
that people can improve their daily activities by playing these games. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
But not all brain training games are equal. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
So Clare says look at the evidence a company provides to check | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
their games really do what they say. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
And of course be cautious of any game | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
that says it can definitely prevent or delay dementia, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
because, while signs are positive, the evidence isn't yet solid. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Whether you choose a brain training app or something else entirely, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
there's no doubt we can make ourselves smarter by giving | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
our little grey cells a workout. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
The key is to make sure it's a hard one. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
Which brings me back to my own personal challenge. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Morning, son. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
Back home with my mum, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:50 | |
it's time to see if David's memory tips have worked. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
It's D-Day, really, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
because I've got to see if I can do it, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
and so will you please be my adjudicator | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
and let me know if I've got it right? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
-Time to put you to the test. Come on, then. -Right. OK, so... | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Two, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
three, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
one, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
six, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
four, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
eight, seven... | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Come on, come on. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Seven, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
eight, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
one, one, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
four, three. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
What do you reckon? | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
I reckon I got it. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
-Yeah! -Yes! | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-Come on! -Well done, you. -Come on. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Did I get it? Like, at 100%? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
Look at that. Look at that. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
100%. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
Earlier in the programme I was looking into the suggestion | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
that asthma might be being over-diagnosed, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
and I wanted to find out whether or not it was true. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
And of course what I discovered is that it's all rather | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
a lot more complicated than the headlines would have us believe. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Here in Britain, the number of people who suffer from asthma | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
has really hardly changed for a number of years, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
but there is another story that's been getting an awful lot | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
of column inches that might lead you to believe we are about to see | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
an incredible rise in the number of cases, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
and that involves air pollution. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
I know that if I'm walking through a congested city centre | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
I can find it harder to breathe due, I think, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
to the pollution in the air. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
Some two thirds of asthma sufferers say air pollution | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
makes their asthma worse, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
and it's more likely to trigger an attack. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
So when the poor quality of London's air made headlines | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
at the start of 2017, some reports even called | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
for the capital's children to be given protective masks | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
on their way to school. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
But Martha Massaquoi has been taking precautions | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
for a few years already, to help her asthmatic son Gawanda. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
Thank you. Be careful. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Martha and Gawanda live in a busy area of south-east London, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
where the air pollution can really exacerbate Gawanda's asthma. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
This morning they're being joined by child respiratory health expert | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Dr Abigail Whitehouse, who is going | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
to investigate how the air pollution nearby | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
might affect Gawanda's breathing. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
So tell me a bit about Gawanda's asthma. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
-When did it start? -It started when he was a baby. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
How often does he need to use his inhaler? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
If we go out and we are walking on the main road, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
then halfway through the journey he will say, "I need my inhaler." | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
Whereas if we're walking in areas where it's more cleaner, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
then he doesn't need it so much. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
Abigail is swapping Gawanda's schoolbag for a pollution monitor, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
to find out how much nasty air he breathes in | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
on his over two mile round-trip to school. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
The journey usually takes about 25 minutes | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
through side streets and back roads, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
all carefully chosen to avoid walking along the busy main road. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
It takes longer, but Martha knows that her low pollution route | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
means that Gawanda is less likely to need his inhaler. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Which way are we going? | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
That way or are we going...? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
It is a pain, but it's a decision I have to make - | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
whether to go through polluted areas | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
and give him medicine, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
or go through a cleaner area | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
and avoid giving him the inhaler as much as we can. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Martha thinks she's doing her best | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
to reduce the chances of Gawanda having an asthma attack | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
because of the air pollution. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
But Abigail says even just the small amount of time they spend | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
near the main road can expose him to high levels of pollution. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
If you're on a longer route to school past a main road | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
you'll see that the levels will go up as you leave the house, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
they'll peak every time traffic stops nearby | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
or you're at a crossing, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
but it's these peaks that are the things we worry about the most. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
While those peaks make an asthma attack more likely, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
there are now claims that they could also cause new cases of asthma. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
But Abigail says it's not that clear cut. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
The air pollution might just have kick-started the condition | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
in people who were always destined to develop it anyway. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
So if you've got a family history of asthma then you're likely | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
to get asthma yourself as you get a little bit older. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
But you then still need something to trigger it. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
The evidence is coming that air pollution also | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
has this trigger effect, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
bringing on asthma in people that are disposed to it already. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
It's impossible to know whether Gawanda's asthma | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
was triggered by air pollution, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
but it does undoubtedly make an attack more likely. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
At the end of the school day, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
Abigail's returning with the results of those tests. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
-So shall we have a look at the results? -Yes. -OK. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
So, this is a graph of your walk to school. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
The equipment measures particles of black carbon in the air, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
a little like soot. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
It's the main component of all air pollution. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
And you see about three minutes after we walked out the door | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
there's a big peak. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
And that's when we made it down onto the main road. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
And then we walk on to that side road. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
The peaks correspond with when they're on the main road | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
and the dips are when they're on the side roads. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
So where is this roughly? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Martha says the peaks match the places were Gawanda | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
is most likely to struggle to breathe and ask for his inhaler. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
They're all at the points where their route takes them | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
along or across the main road, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
where traffic is worse. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
Wherever you've got traffic jams and slow cars, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
that's where you're going to get your highest air pollution, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
cos the cars are just pumping it at him. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
Martha's relieved to hear she's made the right decision to change | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
their route to minimise their exposure to pollution. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Basically what you're saying then is it's best for us to continue | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
taking that route. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
You're definitely avoiding the bulk of the pollution | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
by walking that way, which is good. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
Unfortunately, there isn't another route | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
to avoid even more of the pollution. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
But there are tips on how to limit the pollution | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
they are exposed to even more. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
You've got a nice wide pavement, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
walk right next to the buildings, rather than next to the road. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
It's probably a bit safer, and also there's less pollution | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
cos it kind of drops off as you move away. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
So the good news is that, for those of us who already have asthma, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
there are ways to avoid too much exposure. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
And although there is some truth in headlines linking rising pollution | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
to asthma, it's not quite as simple as claims | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
that a surge in air pollution | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
will lead to a surge in new cases of asthma. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Some of the headlines in today's programme really took me by surprise | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
because they made really complicated arguments appear so simple. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
I know. And, you know, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
it would've been so easy for someone to see those headlines | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
about statins and asthma, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
and, as a result, make really life-changing decisions | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
about their medication without having all the facts. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
Well, it goes without saying that none of those decisions | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
should be made without the help of your doctor. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
And, on that note, I'm afraid that's all we've got time for today. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
Thank you very much for joining us, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
-and, until next time, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 |