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How low I am Wendy Austin and welcome to a new series of the | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
programme that examines the issues that are reported to you. This | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
evening we are in Limavady, so we are back, we are alive and we are | :00:20. | :00:30. | |
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In Your Corner. -- we are live for. It is great to be back with you on | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
In Your Corner. Each week we will be coming live from venues across | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
Northern Ireland, getting right to the heart of issues that affect you | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
and your community. We are starting in the north-west and we are live | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
in a row Valley Arts Centre in Limavady. I have galloped up here, | :01:07. | :01:12. | |
but our team have been here all day. They have been finding out more | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
about this lovely centre which hosts a wide range of events. It is | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
impressive. Better still, it is right in the heart of the town. | :01:22. | :01:26. | |
is great to be back another the next six weeks we will be in some | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
other great buildings in towns like Portadown, Cookstown and | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
Enniskillen, highlighting problems and resolving disputes. What is the | :01:34. | :01:41. | |
story in In Your Corner? Get in touch this evening. Eimear last, up | :01:41. | :01:50. | |
follow us on Facebook or you can tweak us. Coming up on tonight's | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
programme. Chris Moore asked coupes for clearing up the toxic mess | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
created by criminals behind fuel laundering. We have been on the | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
streets of Limavady to get reaction to a council initiative that he | :02:04. | :02:11. | |
aimed at drawing tourists to the area. So all that to come. Get in | :02:11. | :02:18. | |
touch. We are live and listening. Claire has the top story. Thank you. | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
The Royal Belfast Hospital for Sick children is the only specialist | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
children's hospital in the UK that does not have its own MRI scanner. | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
Local charities and the public have been raising funds to buy one, but | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
so far the Belfast Health Trust has failed to state publicly that it | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
will take ownership of the scanner or pay for the staff needed to run | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
it. I met with one family who have been directly affected by the fact | :02:41. | :02:48. | |
that the hospital does not have this key piece of equipment. Any | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
parent who has gone through the trauma of having to rush a sick | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
child to hospital never forget the experience. Thankfully, a with my | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
children it has been bumps and scrapes. Just imagine rushing | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
you're unconscious baby to hospital on Christmas morning. That is what | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
happened to this woman and her 14 month-old daughter. She has been | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
here in the Royal Belfast Hospital for Sick children ever since. | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
life hung in a balance for nearly 36 hours. The we did not think she | :03:20. | :03:27. | |
would make it through. She fought on and the doctors worked | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
tirelessly and the nurses as well, trying to stabilise her and | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
eventually, the day after Boxing Day, she was out of the life- | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
threatening situation. From then on, we had to do different | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
investigations and tests to find out what happened. It's is your | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
worst nightmare. You look at her been healthy the day before and | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
then she was lying on the verge of life or death. They have been | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
fantastic here. Doctors do still -- doctor still don't know why she | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
collapsed and they wanted to have an MRI scan to see if she suffered | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
brain damage. This is the only specialist children's hospital in | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
the UK but does not have a dedicated MRI scanner for its | :04:14. | :04:23. | |
patients. Four Bolivia, this means been transferred from intensive | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
care to the adult scanner. Because of her condition, moving her is | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
fraught with danger, but the doctors have no choice. The fact | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
that we do not have an MRI scanner and we are the only hospital in the | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
UK not have this, speaks volumes. It is an integral part of daily | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
life in all other children's hospitals, but children in Northern | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
Ireland are not able to benefit from this type of scanner. Without | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
a dedicated MRI scanner, the Children's Hospital simply has to | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
put the sickest patients first. This tide had two scans Castle Cup, | :05:00. | :05:08. | |
which has added to her mother's worries. How is she doing? And not | :05:09. | :05:17. | |
too bad. Her seizures seem to have settled down. It is emotional. | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
Seeing her having to go away to another part of the hospital and we | :05:21. | :05:28. | |
cannot go with there. He had been waiting for this? The word two | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
cancelled last week and we have been waiting for nearly a fortnight. | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
This gang is to see if there is any improvement or any deterioration. | :05:40. | :05:46. | |
We will hope and pray that she will show some improvement. It is a long | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
time to wait. I know you want to be weather, so we will catch up with | :05:51. | :06:01. | |
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you later. It takes several Ambulance and Nursing Staff to | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
transferred the child to the adult hospital and her mother isn't | :06:04. | :06:12. | |
allowed to travel with her. As a neurologist, an MRI scan is | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
essential for us in making a diagnosis of any condition, such as | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
brain tumours, strokes, infection, developmental problems and epilepsy. | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
If there are delays in getting a scan, then obviously there will be | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
a delay in making a diagnosis and that will have a knock-on effect on | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
treatment and therefore management of the conditions. It really is an | :06:38. | :06:46. | |
essential cornerstone for how we manage patients. The baby has | :06:46. | :06:51. | |
arrived in the adult hospital and is having her stand. Two years ago, | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
four local charities came together to start an appeal to raise �2 | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
million needed to buy a scanner, just like this one, for the | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
Children's Hospital. Now members of the public have raised �1 million | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
for this appeal and it is important to the public, because they | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
understand that this is a piece of machinery that will benefit all | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
sick children in Northern Ireland. There is a problem. The charities | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
are raising money across the province. However, the Belfast | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
Health Trust has so far refused to state publicly that it will provide | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
the staffing and resources that the children's scanner will need. You | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
have said that the trust are aware of the money they you are Rainey | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
and -- aiming to raise. Have they rubber-stamp the fact that they | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
will staff and provide the site for at? Not yet, but we're confident | :07:41. | :07:50. | |
that welcome in the future. fact that it is Northern Ireland's | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
only Children's Hospital hot the -- Hospital makes it even more | :07:53. | :08:03. | |
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important. Our children are as important to us and they are | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
valuable to us are as any other child. The main thing is that if we | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
can get these tests done quicker, then making get the treatment | :08:15. | :08:25. | |
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started. It would be far better. it is very rare that a single piece | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
of equipment and the running of that service would make such a | :08:32. | :08:38. | |
dramatic difference to the wake in which... And the speed of which, we | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
could diagnose conditions. We could then treat and manage them. After | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
having her scan, the child is back in intensive care and to parents | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
face an anxious wait on the results. Meanwhile, the charities raising | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
money for the scanner are also anxiously waiting on the Belfast | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
Trust to come out and back their campaign. Just to update you on a | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
the child's condition. She has been moved out of the intensive care | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
unit and is putting on weight and making steady and slow progress, | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
but it is a long road ahead for her and her family. We wish them all | :09:14. | :09:20. | |
the best. Wendy. We certainly do. With me now is Dr Richard Wright | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
from the Belfast Hospital for Sick children and Ivan Marton from the | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
charity helping hand. Dr Wright, no one could argue that this is a | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
crucial piece of equipment. Is there the commitment that is | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
required from the trust, if the charities raise the money, to put | :09:38. | :09:45. | |
it into action? I think it is fantastic that the family have come | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
out and being prepared to highlight this issue, which is dear to me and | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
dear to the trust and it takes real courage to do that and that is | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
fantastic. We are fully committed to the project as a practising | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
radiologist, this is close to my heart and a project that we really | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
want to see as soon as possible. One of the problems is that in | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
Northern Ireland, we require the full backing of our commissioners | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
and the Department of Health to go ahead with this, so we prepared a | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
full business case and that is now with the department and with the | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
health board for their consideration. I am quietly | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
confident that we will get a green light on this in a knot too distant | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
future. I can Marton, is that we Duke and the other charities want | :10:29. | :10:36. | |
to hear. Obviously. This is a no- brainer. It has been said several | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
times already. But the children's Hospital, the only regional | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
hospital without a dedicated scanner for children, this just | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
isn't good enough. We set about raising the money. We hope to be in | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
a position in a couple of weeks' time to make an announcement | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
officially that we have passed the one Indian pounds mark. We are | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
aiming for �2 million and we want to keep going until we get that. We | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
keep hearing from the Coalition government at Westminster that we | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
are all part of the "big society" and the people in Northern Ireland | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
are being part of that and they are playing their part, they are | :11:16. | :11:23. | |
joining in and raising this money. At that point, at the Department | :11:23. | :11:29. | |
and the trust need to join in, join up to the "big society" and we get | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
our scanner. On what basis we raising the money? Did you think | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
you have a commitment from the trust before you started to raise | :11:36. | :11:43. | |
it? What sort of negotiations have taken place? We have had several | :11:43. | :11:49. | |
discussions. There has never been a firm commitment. He went ahead and | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
raise the money? I figured if we raised �2 million for a scanner it | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
would be pretty hard for anyone to make a case for setting it in a | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
room and not using it. We have actually built in some money to | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
this appeal, to insure that as soon as the scanner is purchased and | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
installed, there are funds they have to start it off. That. There | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
is no point in this money been raised and it not been able to be | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
staffed, because you have a gun put to your head and left with no | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
alternative. We have been behind this project from the early days. I | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
should make one point. It is slightly mischievous to say there | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
is no service at the children's hospital. There is a quality MRA | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
service, the problem is it isn't located in the building. It is | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
within a few hundred yards. That isn't where we want to be. It is | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
important for parents to know that if the need a scan and need one | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
urgently, it can be provided. What is important about the money that | :12:54. | :13:01. | |
has been raised... It isn't just about the equipment, the staff have | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
to be there to run out, the building has to be there. It is | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
very frustrating for us and parents that we cannot do it immediately. | :13:09. | :13:16. | |
It takes a bit of time. On what stage was this business case put | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
together? Was a dinner last few days? It has been worked on for the | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
last six months. It is detailed. There have been experiences and | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
problems in the past were money has been raised... It has gone and the | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
last few days. That is the normal process. There is nothing unusual | :13:38. | :13:46. | |
about that. I am delighted. We are after the same objective here. We | :13:46. | :13:55. | |
are grateful for the charities. Thank you. It is enormously | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
important to parents all over Northern Ireland and we have | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
brought some resolution to what has been at a confusing picture for | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
everyone. We will continue to follow the story and keep you up- | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
to-date with any developments, so keep in touch with us and let us | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
know what you think. Maybe it has affected you? It is great to be in | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
Limavady in the centre, but our reporter has been out and about as | :14:19. | :14:29. | |
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well, hearing what is the top of the town. -- top of the town. | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
there is a new way to enjoy and learn about Limavady. A new app has | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
been designed for smart phones to try and attract tourists. The app | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
has many features, including an ordeal trail that take you on a | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
walking tour of the town. Here on Main Street, we are here to ask | :15:00. | :15:10. | |
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locals what attractions they would Well there's lakes with trout and | :15:10. | :15:19. | |
salmon. The beach. Would you go on your day off? I'd go for a walk on | :15:19. | :15:23. | |
the beach. Hello. Today there's been a new app released for your | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
smartphone to get tour toists come here and see what's on offer. | :15:27. | :15:37. | |
idea. Certainly is - what's an app and an iPhone? I would say it would | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
be very nice. Do you think it's a nice place for people to visit. | :15:42. | :15:50. | |
Beautiful, lovely and scenic. like the Town Hall at the moment. | :15:50. | :15:56. | |
You want to know what I think about tourists in Limavady? I do. We are | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
completely useless at advertising what we have got. It's the best | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
place in Northern Ireland, bar none. There's not very much here now with | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
the downturn, it seems to have lost a lot of shops and businesses, | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
which are greatly missed. There's not that much to do. But it's a | :16:15. | :16:21. | |
happy, wee town, that's the best thing you can want. I enjoy | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
Limavady. People are very friendly. Hi Ronnie. Exactly! Certainly is a | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
friendly place indeed. We've been made to feel very welcome today. | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
Don't forget this programme is all about the issues which are | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
important to you, issues that affect you and your community. | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
You've been getting in touch with us. Great to hear from you. We've a | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
message from Brendan on Facebook. He would love to see a piece on | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
poor housing conditions students have to endure whilst paying high | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
rent. Mark says, why don't you cover the price of insurance in | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
Northern Ireland compared to the rest of the UK. Thanks for your | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
comments. Keep them coming on e- mail or join the discussion online. | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
Now this is the newest member of the team, Chris Moore and you know | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
the way the new guy gets the dirty jobs? No difference here. Chris | :17:12. | :17:19. | |
you've been digging in the dirt left behind by fuel smugglers. | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
in counties down and Armagh criminal gangs are making millions | :17:23. | :17:30. | |
from removing millions from removing red dye from farm | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
machineries and selling it on. But it's creating an environmental | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
hazards. It's local councils with responsibility for the environment | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
having to Dick deep into the rate payers' coughers to clean up after | :17:43. | :17:53. | |
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This dominates the South Armagh skyline and is a major tourist | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
attraction along the Armagh border. There's something unpleasant in the | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
air, hidden behind hedges, it's this stuff, the sludge-like waste | :18:10. | :18:20. | |
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that's evidence of a criminal enterprise worth millions of pounds. | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
Fuller's earth or even cat litter is used to filter and remove red | :18:25. | :18:31. | |
dye from low tax agricultural diesel so it can be sold on as high | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
tax commercial fuel. The by-product is tons of toxic waste that | :18:35. | :18:44. | |
criminals dump anywhere they won't be seen. Patrick. Hello Chris. | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
Pleased to meet you. Thank you very much for taking the time to meet us | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
here. Beautiful setting. Yes. going to see a site now. Shall we | :18:54. | :19:04. | |
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get in your motor and head up that Patrick is the local council's | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
Environmental Health officer. His job is to track down and clean up | :19:13. | :19:23. | |
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laundered waste. When we received the report from a local member of | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
the public, what we do is confirm the type of dumping here, just | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
confirm it's laundered fuel waste then we hand the case over to the | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
Environment Agency, whose responsibility it is. Some of the | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
containers are leaking. Obviously, some of those containers would | :19:43. | :19:48. | |
contain diesel fuel and sulphuric acid used for laundering the fuel. | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
This stuff leaks out of them, some of these cubes burst open. Yeah, | :19:55. | :20:00. | |
unfortunately, I suppose in the haste to get them dumped some of | :20:00. | :20:09. | |
the tip out. Again, you can see there's a leak of that. There's a | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
danger of getting into water courses. This is my small holding | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
here where I keep the livestock and keep them fed. Farmers are afraid | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
that toxic lakes from diesel laundering will pollute water | :20:22. | :20:29. | |
supplies to livestock. Farmer Terry Hearty is also a local councillor. | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
The fears I have is a lot of dumping takes place on the high | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
ground. With all the rains down on this farm here heading into the | :20:38. | :20:45. | |
river. It's the time of the year when livestock are out and drinking | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
out of drains like I have here, them cattle could be poisoned. That | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
would be a serious, like small farms like we have here, to lose | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
livestock or sickness and livestock and that would be a serious blow to | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
us. Are you fearful of actually putting your cattle into this field | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
here beside us? I am at the minute. If I put me cattle out here in | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
March and the dumping continues on the high ground beside me, I'll | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
have to fence that off and put a water supply into the cattle. I | :21:15. | :21:21. | |
couldn't use it. Illegal fuel is sold across the country, but it's | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
here along the Down Armagh border that the waste is dumped. For the | :21:26. | :21:34. | |
criminal gangs, it's big business. As a rule of thumb, each of these | :21:34. | :21:42. | |
cubes represents 100,000 litres of laundered red diesel. That brings | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
the launderers a clear profit of �50,000. With 100 cubes on this | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
site alone, that leaves the criminals picking up a cool �5 | :21:51. | :22:01. | |
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We've had occasions where these have been abandoned along the | :22:05. | :22:14. | |
roadside. They can contain up to 25, 30, 35 of these IBC containers. | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
Diesel laundering waste was first dumped on this site as many as nine | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
months ago. The council could have cleaned up this site on the very | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
first day that waste was dumped here. But they didn't. Instead they | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
decided to wait for the Environment Agency to track down and legally | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
enforce the land owner to pay for the clean up of this site. While | :22:36. | :22:44. | |
going to pay for it, the fact is that the local, the community is | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
suffering over there. The community right across is suffering because | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
of the dangers that site brings to that entire area. | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
And cleaning up the diesel mess has proven to be costly for the local | :22:56. | :23:04. | |
rate payers. Last year, it cost Armagh Council �50,000 and another | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
council �84,000. If you were faced with clearing up that site we've | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
been on, on private land, what do you reckon the cost would be to the | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
council? Around �30,000 to �35,000 just for that one site. It's a lot | :23:17. | :23:23. | |
of money. Interestingly, there have been developments since Chris's | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
report was filmed. We've been working on this story for a while | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
now. Last week the council took the decision to begin clearing up the | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
site featured in the report. So while there seems to be some | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
resolution in this particular case, the wider issue about who is | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
financially responsible for cleaning up the mess in general is | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
still unresolved. Let's talk about this with Kevin Skullion and Dave | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
Foster from the Northern Ireland Environment Agency. Thanks very | :23:51. | :23:57. | |
much for coming along this evening. This is a horrible mess. It's a | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
dreadful blight on the landscape. It's affecting communities and most | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
importantly, the environment. You're the Environment Agency, so | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
why on earth have you not moved in and cleaned more of these areas up? | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
It certainly is a very serious issue. This sort of waste crime is | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
classed in the context of things like people trafficking and drug | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
trafficking. We realise it is a serious business. Our first | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
priority is to deal with the enforcement and track down the | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
offender and as you see from the piece, a lot of money is made by | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
this. Our principle will be we make the polluter pay. We're also | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
seeking to make sure that the immediate threat to the environment | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
is dealt with. Indeed. Does that not, since you're the Environment | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
Agency, is that not skewed, let the police or HMRC or whoever else | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
chases the perpetrator or the person who owns the land and you | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
clean it up in the meantime. Certainly, where we see a problem, | :24:53. | :24:59. | |
we work with local councils to limit the damage. We recognise that | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
HMRC have a role it play. The legislation is complex. I was | :25:05. | :25:15. | |
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talking with Kevin earlier on. We recognise it's complex. We're | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
working with the local government now to work out how to deploy | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
things to the best effect. It will be interesting to see how that | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
works. When I talk about the land owner, I wasn't referring to this | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
particular case. But there are sites right along the boarder in a | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
similarly awful state. Why should your rate payers have to pay for | :25:35. | :25:45. | |
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it? Indeed. That's the case that we have to the department. This is a | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
problem that should be spread across the whole of the country and | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
there should be a central fund for this, for these waste sites to be | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
cleaned up with. That's how it is in the Republic of Ireland. The | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
councils clear up the site but they get a refund for all the works they | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
have to take. Equally, you have cleaned this up now, this site that | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
we've been looking at, and as we heard from Chris, you could have | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
cleaned it up on the first day it was dumped there. It's a cat-and- | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
mouse game almost that's going on between your council and the other | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
agencies. We don't want to get into too many specifics about this site. | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
On this site there were interesting aspects with this. There was | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
something like 127 tons of waste on the site. Last year we removed | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
something like 160 tons throughout the district. That was almost the | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
same of the whole of the last year. It was huge? It was. It was | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
important that some sort of investigation was carried out. We | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
have to remember the prime responsibility for this crime is | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
the people who actually put the waste there. By and large, we won't | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
be able to get those people. But the land owner has a responsibility | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
to take steps to secure his property to ensure this kiem does | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
not take place. Before we spend rate payers' money it's important | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
that those steps are taken to identify the culprit and make them | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
bear the costs of the clean up. Finally, there's legislation in the | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
pipeline, it seems, on all of this, it's been slow to get to the point | :27:12. | :27:18. | |
that it's at now. How soon do you think there may be a real change in | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
this? The legislation is there. We need to make it operational. The | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
minister is keen we make progress with local Government. We've now | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
established in principle a pilot study with six councils we hope to | :27:30. | :27:36. | |
start in the next few weeks. Thank you both very much for coming along. | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
You've been letting us know what the story is in your corner. Plenty | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
of messages from the people at home on the MRI scanner. Louise says "It | :27:45. | :27:52. | |
would be great to get the scanner. We need commitment from Mr Putts on | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
funding and staff." That's all for tonight. Contact me on e-mail or | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
join the discussion online. Next week we're live from Portadown | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
health centre in County Armagh. Then we travel to Cookstown and | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
then Newtownabbey. That's it for this week. Thank you | :28:10. | :28:15. |