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Across the country, behind closed doors, we British are building. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
We're building up, down, and out, to improve our homes. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
To have this as a bigger space means I can have more people round, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
and it just changes your day-to-day life. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
But before we build, we need permission. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
Permission from the planners. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
A bunch of people dedicated to | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
protecting our public spaces and neighbourhoods. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
We have had one objection to the proposal. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Yeah, feel quite grumpy really. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
So, if you've ever wanted a bigger kitchen, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
an extra bedroom or an en suite bathroom, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
stand by it's time to... | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Plan It, Built It. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
Britain has beautiful buildings - Victorian terraces, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Georgian townhouses and even the odd medieval dwelling. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
In fact, 20% of Britain's houses | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
were built before the end of the First World War. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
A crucial part of every planner's job is protecting our heritage. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
And it's not always easy. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Once you've lost that historic asset, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
whether it be a building, window design, doors, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
once they've gone it's so difficult to get them back. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
So today we're looking at our historic buildings and spaces, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
is it possible to extend or alter your home | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
if you live somewhere with special conservation status? | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
We will meet... | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
..a man determined to increase the size of his loft. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
This room's no good for anything really | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
apart from a single bed and a baby. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
And a couple with a great view, but a difficult problem. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
One of them has to actually go outside to sleep. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
And it's not just about adding space, it's also about adding value. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
Getting planning permission is often financially crucial. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Back in the '60s, worried about over-development, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
the Government introduced the concept of the Conservation area. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
From zero in 1967, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
there are now 9,300 of these dotted across the nation. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
If you don't protect a conservation area, the character's going to erode. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
There will be so many different alterations that it | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
looses its value, its historic value, its social value, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
its reason for being a conservation area. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
One of these protected areas lies in | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
the little known London suburb of Nunhead. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Much of it was heavily bombed during the war, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
but one small pocket emerged unscathed - Nunhead Green. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
The charming, neat rows of Victorian terraces | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
and quiet streets make this the perfect place for young families | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
and first-time buyers with an eye for a bargain. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
And what a bargain! | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
You'll pay around 550 grand for a three-bed house here, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
which is an eye watering 150 grand cheaper than a similar house | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
in neighbouring East Dulwich. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
So, who has the task of defending the character of | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Nunhead's historic buildings? | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
Meet Southwark council's, Alex Cameron. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
The application we've got in front of us today | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
is for a dormer roof extension to a first floor flat. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
The best bit of the flat is these windows which, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
as you come in through the door into the living room, I really like. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
It's all a bit Jackanory really. "Through the arched window!" | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Roland Cain has bought a one-bed flat in Nunhead Green for £238,000. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:34 | |
And he's planning to spend another 40 grand renovating the property. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
He's desperate to add a proper second bedroom for his son | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
when he visits from university. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
The house could be worth over 300,000 when finished, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
but it won't be plain sailing. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Roland needs to get planning permission to solve a structural headache. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
You can see there's a bit of a problem here. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Even before I've walked into the landing I'm banging my head | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
and I'm not particularly tall. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
What I'm afraid of is that, because this is a conservation area, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
what I'm hoping to do is extend the dormer, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
that's in the next room we'll look at, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
right the way along to this wall. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
This is five foot wide this bit | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
and this room is not good for anything apart from a single bed | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
and a baby and someone who likes banging their head a lot. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
The plans that we've submitted will run this dormer right | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
the way across the house, which is about five metres. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Dormers give more space to a loft area by extending out | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
from the existing roof. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
Roland wants a dormer, running right across the back of the house, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
creating a proper room in the loft | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
and providing more headroom on the stairs. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Alex wouldn't have a problem with this, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
but in a conservation area he can't allow the dormer on the front | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and would need a very good reason to allow it on the back. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Because the property is within a conservation area | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
it does restrict what alterations you can do to the front, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
particularly to the roof of the building. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
We look to try and keep it as original as possible | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
within conservation areas. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
If Roland doesn't get the approval he's after he'll have wasted his time AND his money. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
If the decision goes against me | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
then effectively I'll just have to refurbish the flat as it is | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
and sell it on because it won't be fit for me to live in. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
I need a second room for my son to join me. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
Roland's hopes for his son's new bedroom | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
hinge on a make-or-break site visit. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Can he persuade the planners that his need for space | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
justifies any impact on this picturesque neighbourhood? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
But it's not just in towns and cities that planners have special powers to stop development. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
Our countryside is protected too. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
There are 46 Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in the country. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
They're known as AONBs in planner speak, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
and if you're lucky enough to live in one, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
you may find you're not so lucky when it comes to planning. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Hastings might not be the wealthiest place in the country, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
but it does have some beautiful buildings, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
and some stunning countryside. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
This is The High Weald, AONB. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
This protected area sits next to Ore, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
historically one of the most downtrodden areas of Hastings. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
But today, this hilly suburb has become much more desirable, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
three-bed detached houses will set you back between | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
180 and 190,0000, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and there's one place where prices are at a premium - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
on this elevated road where houses overlooking the High Weald | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
can sell for as much half a million pounds! | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
The views are stunning and you're only a ten minute drive from the sea. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Hastings council's Carol Boydell is dedicated to protecting this area | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
and she's on her way to visit a couple whose house overlooks the High Weald AONB. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
It's protected countryside and we have planning policies that protect the countryside there. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:10 | |
The couple really want a two-storey extension, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
but like every planner, Carol has to stick to the rules - | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
policies set by the council and driven by guidelines | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
from the government. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
There's also a policy about development outside | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
the built up area | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
which means if somebody wants to develop, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
even if it's just putting up a shed that needs planning permission, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
it still has to be tested against the policy | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
so that we can regulate how much development takes place. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
-The views are just stunning. -It sold the house to us. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Absolutely. -We didn't buy the house, we bought the views. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
And who could blame them? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
Bill and Cally O'Reilly recently moved down from just outside | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Milton Keynes after falling in love with the area on holiday. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
They put their savings into buying their dream home, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
but now need planning permission to solve an unusual problem. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
One of the strange things about this house, it has three bedrooms, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
but one of them is only accessible from outside. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
So you actually have to go out the back door, down the steps | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and then round the back of the house and then into the third bedroom. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
So a little strange. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
Yeah, and when we've got both our daughters here, one of them actually | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
has to go outside to sleep and it's just a bit horrible, so we'd like | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
the extension to bring the third bedroom into the rest of the house. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
So downstairs is going to be the utility room | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
and a shower for the third bedroom. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Then upstairs will be extended out. I've got the study, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
so my desk doesn't have to be in what's essentially the dining room. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Initially we thought that perhaps we could get it done | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
for 30 or 40,0000, but I don't think it's going to be that now, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
I think it's going to be more like 50 going on 60. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Before we moved in here we had a visit to the planning office. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
When they asked us where we lived, we pointed it out on the map and they said, "Right. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
"If ever you want to change anything, we'll look at it very closely." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
We hope that what we're proposing is not going to be obtrusive | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
to anybody and it will sort of fit in fairly well. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Fingers crossed we get the extension. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
In Southwark, it's an important day for Roland Cain who needs | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
a bigger dormer window to create space for his son's bedroom. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
Alex Cameron from Southwark's planning office has arrived | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
to carry out the all-important site visit. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
-Hi, Alex Cameron. -Hi. Come on. -Thank you very much. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Since 2007, Nunhead Green has been a conservation area, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
which could spell disaster for Roland's plans. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
But he has a secret weapon - in the form of another council officer! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
Roland has invited Hailu Worku from Southwark's building control to join the meeting. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
From Hailu's point of view the headroom on the stairs | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
is too low and ought to be raised. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
But the final say on whether the project can go ahead rests with Alex. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Obviously this is the front, isn't it? So it's the top floor. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
So that's the offending member. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Right. So it's obviously quite low, isn't it? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
I'm a little under six foot. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
At the moment the application has the dormer coming out | 0:10:15 | 0:10:21 | |
to halfway across, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
and what I was asking for was a special bit of leeway | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
to push this dormer to maybe this far from this boundary wall. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
From your perspective, Hailu... | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
From Building Control side | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
the minimum requirement is a two metre clearance, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
so if there's no problem from planning... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-we will encourage the customer to have a two metre. -OK. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
'Two metres headroom. That's VERY good news for Roland.' | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
If there is any restriction from planning, we can do nothing | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
because it's an existing loft conversion. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
'Or maybe not!' | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
I think we've got to look at... It's a delicate balance. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Obviously it's a conservation area around here | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
and externally we need to make sure that's not compromised, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
so it's about trying to negotiate a resolution between the three parties | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and trying to make that work as best we can. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Do you want to look just before we go down at the room next door. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Oh, wow. It's a rather small room, isn't it? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
I'm planning on swinging cats, I do a lot of that. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
-You're going to need the space for that, aren't you? -I think so. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
So, I can appreciate that you want to increase this space here | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
to allow for a decent-sized bedroom really. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
From our planning perspective we have to look at how it | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
affects the visual appearance of the building. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
There's a dormer on that side which goes up to the party wall, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
that side, and there's an extended dormer down the road that | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
goes up to the party wall. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
There's obviously a precedent of other similar alterations. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Just not quite as wide as we want to go. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
OK. Full width dormer extensions in conservation areas | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
are usually not permitted. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
In this instance there are bigger dormers | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
which works in your favour. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
Roland's plans are hanging in the balance. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Alex needs to assess whether other properties have dormers | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
the size and shape that Roland wants. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
If not, it could be curtains for his son's new bedroom. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
There's a dormer to the right and another dormer to the left. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Neither of them is as wide as I'm hoping to go. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Both side are larger which, again in principle, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
means that you having a larger extension is fine. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
There's a bigger one by the looks of it at the very end. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
I'll have a look into that and I'll check | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
the history of surrounding ones and I'll get back to you on that front. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
Alex needs to take loads of photos so he can carefully study | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
the pictures and work out if other houses have similar style dormers. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
Roland's got his fingers crossed. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
If I'm lucky and they've got planning for that at the end there, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
I'm hoping that that might just tip | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
the balance in our favour to get the full width dormer and then keep | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
the pitch of that parapet wall which seems to be important for planners. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
That might be a good compromise. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
With the visit over, it will now be a nervy wait for Roland. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
There's a 21-day neighbourhood consultation period | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
before Alex makes his "yes" or "no" decision. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-Thanks for coming down. -Nice to meet you. -Bye. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Up on the High Weald in Hastings, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
Carol has arrived for her crucial site visit. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Hello, Carol Boydell. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
-Bill O'Reilly, pleased to meet you. -Hi, I'm Cally. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
-Lovely location. -Beautiful. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
How long have you lived here? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
We've been here just over five months. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
Came through here, fell in love with the place and thought, "Somehow we've got to do it." | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-Yeah. "And we'll have to make the house expand with us!" -Exactly! Yes. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
This inspection is everything. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Carol's impression of the site, and the impact of the extension, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
will determine whether the O'Reillys get to | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
integrate their third bedroom or face rejection. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
Right. If we can have a look at what you're proposing to do. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
This is lower ground floor, which is this area here. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
So that's an existing bedroom that is only accessible | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
from the outside and so we want to fill in this corner with a | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
two-storey extension, with a utility room downstairs and a wet room. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
With internal stairs. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
With internal stairs up going in through there and then that room | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
will extend out this way to become... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-To create a study area upstairs. -Oh, I see. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
So it's going to be a flat roof and it's going to be rendered | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
to match the existing dwelling, that's good. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
OK, if I can have a look from further down the path | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
and looking back at the house that would be helpful. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
With so much riding on this visit, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Carol must be sure she's viewed the problem from every possible angle. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
She needs to take into account the O'Reilly's desire for better | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
living space, but crucially she must remember her long-term | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
responsibility to protect this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-So where is that over there? -That's Friar's Hill. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
Can you get a view of the property at all from there? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
You probably could if were to drive over there, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
park up and walk along the road, you might get a glance. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
-But it's... -Between properties. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Well, that's a good thing | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
because I've also got to test the impact on the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty and we can't have | 0:15:40 | 0:15:47 | |
your extension having an adverse impact on that, so if it's difficult to view, that's good for you. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:54 | |
Lovely. It's beautiful out here. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
We all agree, Carol, but the big question is... | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
So what do you think? Will we get planning permission? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Well, I've got to go back to the office and test it against policies, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
but I've got reservations, but I'll have a look at the local plan. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:12 | |
-My main priority is the AONB. -Right. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
I've also got to check when I get back to the office | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
to see whether you're outside the built up area, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
so there is another policy that can be quite restrictive about how much | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
development takes place outside the built up area, so I'm going | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
-to test it against that, so I think they're your two main concerns. -OK. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Right, OK, I think that's everything. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
Thanks very much for being here for me. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
Hopefully you won't hear from me later, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
you'll just get a decision through, but if there is any tweaking | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
that needs doing, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
or if there is a major problem I will phone you because | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I don't want you worrying about it and see what might possible. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
-Is that OK? -That sounds great. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
-Thanks very much. -Bye, Poppy. -Bye. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
We appreciate that we're in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty - | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
it's one of the reasons we moved here, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
and we had consulted the planning office before we came here, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
we knew there were lots of restrictions. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
But we're hopeful that this planning application will go through. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
Fingers crossed we'll be OK. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
We'll have to wait and see, but I'm hopeful. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
I want a utility room! | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I want a study. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
Fabulous property, fabulous views, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
it is going to be prominent from the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
which could be an issue with regards to planning policy. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
I've got to go back to the office, have a look at the local plan. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
I think what I'll do is I don't always discuss every application | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
with senior planners, but I think this is one I just want to check. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
In Southwark, Alex has been finding it hard to reach a decision. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
The location of Roland's flat in a conservation area makes | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
the application problematic, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
which doesn't bode well for his son's new room. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Alex has called a crunch meeting with Hailu from building control | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
before he delivers his verdict. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
-Good morning, Hailu. -Morning, nice to see you again. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
So obviously we're here to discuss the plans. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
There's not been any objections from neighbours, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
but I have spoken to our design conservation team about it | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
and also done some research with regard to the surrounding area, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
whether there's any similar extensions | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
within the conservation area and whether there's a precedent really | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
to allow a large extension. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Unfortunately from their perspective there's not. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
So what we're going to need him to do is to make it smaller | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
and bring it in from the sides. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
The problem is here where the staircase is... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Building control requires two metres of headroom clearance, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
but for Alex this will unduly affect the look of Roland's extension, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
making it out of place within the conservation area. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
What I thought about suggesting to the applicant would be that perhaps, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
bring it over to this side so that you retain that headroom there. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
It makes the internal room a bit smaller, but I think still creates | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
a decent enough bedroom and obviously meets the headroom requirements. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
I mean from our side the main concern is the headroom, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
so if they come from this side, we don't have any problem | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
because there is no requirement inside a room. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
So what I think what I'll suggest in that regard is that we | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
look at amending the plans so that they take into account | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
the conservation side of things and also the building control side | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
of things and have a decent headroom in there, but also | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
they will ensure that the extension is small enough, it doesn't | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
dominate the building and it's not out of place in a conservation area. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
-Thank you for your time. -Good to see you and I'll see you again soon. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
-Cheers. -Bye-bye. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
'Yeah. I'm generally happy with the resolution.' | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
The extension is still relatively large, but given | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
the fact that there are similar sized extensions on the neighbouring | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
properties I think I'm pretty satisfied with what we've agreed. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
Obviously we need to get the applicant to agree to those | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
amendments first, but fingers crossed they'll be keen to do that | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
and we can get that resubmitted and approved, hopefully, in the next week or two. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
Up on the High Weald on the outskirts of Hastings, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
the O'Reillys are longing to get the go-ahead to restructure | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
the corner of their home. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
But Carol's also finding it difficult to make the decision | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
which will have a huge impact on Bill and Cally's living space. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
I was quite nervous on site because it is so elevated, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
it's right at the top of that ridge and it's quite exposed. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
-Karen. Can I have a word about Hysted? -Yep. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Carol's referring the application to one of Hasting's senior planners - | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Karen Phillips. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
I've done the report and my main concern was about the AONB. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
And you looked at the emerging plan, didn't you? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Yup, I looked at the emerging plan | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-and everything. I think I've covered everything. -OK, then. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
If you can have a look at that and let me know what you think. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-Yeah, will do. -Thank you. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
The property's not got any immediate neighbours, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
so it's quite on its own and secluded within the AONB. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
We don't allow a lot of development in the AONB at all. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
It's quite rare that anyone gets permission to develop anything | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
more significant than this sort of size extension. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
The planners have thought long and hard about the O'Reilly's application - | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
so fingers crossed, everyone, when they ring in for news... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Good afternoon. Planning. Carol speaking. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Oh, Carol. It's Bill O'Reilly. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
I was wondering if you had any news for us? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
That's great, Carol. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
-Yes? -Yes! | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
It's a yes! | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
So next step is Building Regulations, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
then we've got to find ourselves a builder and then we can get going. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Then we can have both girls under the same roof. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-Correct. -Brilliant, yeah! | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Fast forward four weeks | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
and the O'Reillys have begun to turn their dream into reality. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Their planning permission maybe valid for three years, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
but they're not waiting, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
they want their extension built as soon as possible. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
Very excited that this has now gone from a concept four months ago | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
to here we are breaking ground, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
and, you know, within three months we will have an extension here. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
I'm very happy with the builder that we've chosen. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I've got confidence in the guy that we're dealing with. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
One thing that bothered me was - I knew we wouldn't find this out until | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
we started digging, but there's not much concrete under that end wall. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Is that a problem or is that more or less what you were expecting? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
We expected that to be honest with you. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
The footing is, you can see the footing over in the far corner there. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
As far as you said, no problems so far. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-No problems so far, no. -Excellent, excellent. OK. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Back in Southwark, Alex is happy, building control are happy, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
but is Roland happy? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Not likely. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
Having received an e-mail, he's come to see his planning agent | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
and he can't contain his frustration. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I'm faced with either not converting this at all, in which case I've got | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
a really nasty, little one-bed and I won't be able to move my son in. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Or having to bang our heads every time I come up the stairs, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
but even if I went for that, building control won't allow it. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place really, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
so I have no choice but to contest this decision. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
The likelihood is that it's going to be refused, and then you have | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
the chance of appeal, but that takes up to six months. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
I don't think there's a real issue with the outlook. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I really don't believe that the gardens outside | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
or the public space is affected. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I don't think it diminishes anybody's view, any amenity. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
I think it's a slightly irritating, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
sticking to the policy because that's the easiest thing to do. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
"We've got these rules, therefore you have to stick with them," | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and I think there should be more flexibility | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
and discretion than that. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Roland's plans are in serious jeopardy. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
He feels Alex's decision has left him with little option | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
but to embark on a lengthy, costly and uncertain appeal process. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
The problem is that it will delay the project so much and all | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
the time it's delaying it I'm paying a mortgage on a property | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
I can't do anything with. I'd really like to avoid that if I can. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
I'd really like to avoid the refusal, and I'd like to avoid taking it to appeal. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
Frustration for Roland, but the O'Reilly's extension is nearing completion. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
The scaffolding has come down | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
and Bill and Cally are about to get the space they dreamed of. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
When Carol came round to do the initial inspection, one of her | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
key concerns was that this structure was going to fit in with | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I look at this now and I think this extension... | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
It looks as if it's always been there. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
This was all outside space when we first moved in and now | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
this is going to be my utility room, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
and this is going to be the wet room, the shower, the tiles | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
and the flooring is all organised. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
So this is the third bedroom that was rather strange that you | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
had to go out of the front door, along a path | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
and then into this room through an external door. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
This is not a strange bedroom detached from the rest of the house, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
it's fully part of the house. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Any downsides? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
The mess has been terrific over the past 12 weeks now - | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
we've been living in a building site. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
But we can actually see it all coming together. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
We can be living in this new space that we've created that makes it | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
more of a family home so that when the girls do come down | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
and stay they will both be in the same house. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
It's going to work, and we're really pleased with the way it's gone. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
With the extension almost finished, Carol has come down to take a look. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
She's interested to see how the new structure | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
fits into this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Oh, brilliant. That's good. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
That looks really good. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Do you mind if I go down the garden and have a look... | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
-Come and have a look. -..at the impact down the bottom? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
I remember you had a lovely, large garden down there. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-That'll be lovely. OK. -OK. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
It is quite big, but I don't think it's overly dominant. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I'll tell you what, if people didn't know, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
they wouldn't know that that wasn't built at the same time, would they? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
I'm really pleased that I've been able to help them | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
get what they wanted because the living conditions weren't right, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
it wasn't right to have a bedroom downstairs | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
and you have to go round upstairs to come into the main dwelling. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Carol did seem very happy with the way the extension has gone. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
She's said she's tried to see the house from different places | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
around the area and hasn't actually managed to spot it yet. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
I guess that's a good thing that it's not sticking out | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
like a sore thumb from anywhere. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
And we've still got views, beautiful views from all around, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
so we haven't lost any of the views by putting an extension in. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
-Yeah, I think we'll be here for some years. -I think so. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Bill and Cally have planned it, built it. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
They've spent £60,000 | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
and added 70 square metres of living space. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
In this highly desirable area, the value of their house | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
will quickly overtake the money they've laid out. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
And Roland has decided to compromise... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
ensuring he too will soon have space for a proper second bedroom. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Plus, he could add 70 grand to his £238,000 purchase price - | 0:27:54 | 0:28:00 | |
sounds like good financial sense. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
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