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Across the country, behind closed doors, we British are building.

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We're building up, down, and out, to improve our homes.

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To have this as a bigger space means I can have more people round,

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and it just changes your day-to-day life.

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But before we build, we need permission.

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Permission from the planners.

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A bunch of people dedicated to

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protecting our public spaces and neighbourhoods.

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We have had one objection to the proposal.

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Yeah, feel quite grumpy really.

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So, if you've ever wanted a bigger kitchen,

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an extra bedroom or an en suite bathroom,

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stand by it's time to...

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Plan It, Built It.

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Britain has beautiful buildings - Victorian terraces,

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Georgian townhouses and even the odd medieval dwelling.

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In fact, 20% of Britain's houses

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were built before the end of the First World War.

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A crucial part of every planner's job is protecting our heritage.

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And it's not always easy.

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Once you've lost that historic asset,

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whether it be a building, window design, doors,

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once they've gone it's so difficult to get them back.

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So today we're looking at our historic buildings and spaces,

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is it possible to extend or alter your home

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if you live somewhere with special conservation status?

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We will meet...

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..a man determined to increase the size of his loft.

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This room's no good for anything really

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apart from a single bed and a baby.

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And a couple with a great view, but a difficult problem.

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One of them has to actually go outside to sleep.

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And it's not just about adding space, it's also about adding value.

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Getting planning permission is often financially crucial.

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Back in the '60s, worried about over-development,

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the Government introduced the concept of the Conservation area.

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From zero in 1967,

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there are now 9,300 of these dotted across the nation.

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If you don't protect a conservation area, the character's going to erode.

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There will be so many different alterations that it

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looses its value, its historic value, its social value,

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its reason for being a conservation area.

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One of these protected areas lies in

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the little known London suburb of Nunhead.

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Much of it was heavily bombed during the war,

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but one small pocket emerged unscathed - Nunhead Green.

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The charming, neat rows of Victorian terraces

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and quiet streets make this the perfect place for young families

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and first-time buyers with an eye for a bargain.

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And what a bargain!

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You'll pay around 550 grand for a three-bed house here,

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which is an eye watering 150 grand cheaper than a similar house

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in neighbouring East Dulwich.

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So, who has the task of defending the character of

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Nunhead's historic buildings?

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Meet Southwark council's, Alex Cameron.

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The application we've got in front of us today

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is for a dormer roof extension to a first floor flat.

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The best bit of the flat is these windows which,

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as you come in through the door into the living room, I really like.

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It's all a bit Jackanory really. "Through the arched window!"

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Roland Cain has bought a one-bed flat in Nunhead Green for £238,000.

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And he's planning to spend another 40 grand renovating the property.

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He's desperate to add a proper second bedroom for his son

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when he visits from university.

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The house could be worth over 300,000 when finished,

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but it won't be plain sailing.

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Roland needs to get planning permission to solve a structural headache.

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You can see there's a bit of a problem here.

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Even before I've walked into the landing I'm banging my head

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and I'm not particularly tall.

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What I'm afraid of is that, because this is a conservation area,

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what I'm hoping to do is extend the dormer,

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that's in the next room we'll look at,

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right the way along to this wall.

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This is five foot wide this bit

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and this room is not good for anything apart from a single bed

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and a baby and someone who likes banging their head a lot.

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The plans that we've submitted will run this dormer right

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the way across the house, which is about five metres.

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Dormers give more space to a loft area by extending out

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from the existing roof.

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Roland wants a dormer, running right across the back of the house,

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creating a proper room in the loft

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and providing more headroom on the stairs.

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Alex wouldn't have a problem with this,

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but in a conservation area he can't allow the dormer on the front

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and would need a very good reason to allow it on the back.

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Because the property is within a conservation area

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it does restrict what alterations you can do to the front,

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particularly to the roof of the building.

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We look to try and keep it as original as possible

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within conservation areas.

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If Roland doesn't get the approval he's after he'll have wasted his time AND his money.

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If the decision goes against me

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then effectively I'll just have to refurbish the flat as it is

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and sell it on because it won't be fit for me to live in.

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I need a second room for my son to join me.

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Roland's hopes for his son's new bedroom

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hinge on a make-or-break site visit.

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Can he persuade the planners that his need for space

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justifies any impact on this picturesque neighbourhood?

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But it's not just in towns and cities that planners have special powers to stop development.

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Our countryside is protected too.

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There are 46 Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in the country.

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They're known as AONBs in planner speak,

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and if you're lucky enough to live in one,

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you may find you're not so lucky when it comes to planning.

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Hastings might not be the wealthiest place in the country,

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but it does have some beautiful buildings,

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and some stunning countryside.

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This is The High Weald, AONB.

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This protected area sits next to Ore,

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historically one of the most downtrodden areas of Hastings.

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But today, this hilly suburb has become much more desirable,

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three-bed detached houses will set you back between

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180 and 190,0000,

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and there's one place where prices are at a premium -

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on this elevated road where houses overlooking the High Weald

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can sell for as much half a million pounds!

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The views are stunning and you're only a ten minute drive from the sea.

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Hastings council's Carol Boydell is dedicated to protecting this area

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and she's on her way to visit a couple whose house overlooks the High Weald AONB.

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It's protected countryside and we have planning policies that protect the countryside there.

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The couple really want a two-storey extension,

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but like every planner, Carol has to stick to the rules -

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policies set by the council and driven by guidelines

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from the government.

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There's also a policy about development outside

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the built up area

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which means if somebody wants to develop,

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even if it's just putting up a shed that needs planning permission,

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it still has to be tested against the policy

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so that we can regulate how much development takes place.

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-The views are just stunning.

-It sold the house to us.

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-Absolutely.

-We didn't buy the house, we bought the views.

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And who could blame them?

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Bill and Cally O'Reilly recently moved down from just outside

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Milton Keynes after falling in love with the area on holiday.

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They put their savings into buying their dream home,

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but now need planning permission to solve an unusual problem.

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One of the strange things about this house, it has three bedrooms,

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but one of them is only accessible from outside.

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So you actually have to go out the back door, down the steps

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and then round the back of the house and then into the third bedroom.

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So a little strange.

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Yeah, and when we've got both our daughters here, one of them actually

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has to go outside to sleep and it's just a bit horrible, so we'd like

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the extension to bring the third bedroom into the rest of the house.

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So downstairs is going to be the utility room

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and a shower for the third bedroom.

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Then upstairs will be extended out. I've got the study,

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so my desk doesn't have to be in what's essentially the dining room.

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Initially we thought that perhaps we could get it done

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for 30 or 40,0000, but I don't think it's going to be that now,

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I think it's going to be more like 50 going on 60.

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Before we moved in here we had a visit to the planning office.

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When they asked us where we lived, we pointed it out on the map and they said, "Right.

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"If ever you want to change anything, we'll look at it very closely."

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We hope that what we're proposing is not going to be obtrusive

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to anybody and it will sort of fit in fairly well.

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Fingers crossed we get the extension.

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In Southwark, it's an important day for Roland Cain who needs

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a bigger dormer window to create space for his son's bedroom.

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Alex Cameron from Southwark's planning office has arrived

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to carry out the all-important site visit.

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-Hi, Alex Cameron.

-Hi. Come on.

-Thank you very much.

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Since 2007, Nunhead Green has been a conservation area,

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which could spell disaster for Roland's plans.

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But he has a secret weapon - in the form of another council officer!

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Roland has invited Hailu Worku from Southwark's building control to join the meeting.

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From Hailu's point of view the headroom on the stairs

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is too low and ought to be raised.

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But the final say on whether the project can go ahead rests with Alex.

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Obviously this is the front, isn't it? So it's the top floor.

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So that's the offending member.

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Right. So it's obviously quite low, isn't it?

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I'm a little under six foot.

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At the moment the application has the dormer coming out

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to halfway across,

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and what I was asking for was a special bit of leeway

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to push this dormer to maybe this far from this boundary wall.

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From your perspective, Hailu...

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From Building Control side

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the minimum requirement is a two metre clearance,

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so if there's no problem from planning...

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-we will encourage the customer to have a two metre.

-OK.

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'Two metres headroom. That's VERY good news for Roland.'

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If there is any restriction from planning, we can do nothing

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because it's an existing loft conversion.

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'Or maybe not!'

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I think we've got to look at... It's a delicate balance.

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Obviously it's a conservation area around here

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and externally we need to make sure that's not compromised,

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so it's about trying to negotiate a resolution between the three parties

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and trying to make that work as best we can.

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Do you want to look just before we go down at the room next door.

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Oh, wow. It's a rather small room, isn't it?

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I'm planning on swinging cats, I do a lot of that.

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-You're going to need the space for that, aren't you?

-I think so.

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So, I can appreciate that you want to increase this space here

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to allow for a decent-sized bedroom really.

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From our planning perspective we have to look at how it

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affects the visual appearance of the building.

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There's a dormer on that side which goes up to the party wall,

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that side, and there's an extended dormer down the road that

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goes up to the party wall.

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There's obviously a precedent of other similar alterations.

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Just not quite as wide as we want to go.

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OK. Full width dormer extensions in conservation areas

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are usually not permitted.

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In this instance there are bigger dormers

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which works in your favour.

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Roland's plans are hanging in the balance.

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Alex needs to assess whether other properties have dormers

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the size and shape that Roland wants.

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If not, it could be curtains for his son's new bedroom.

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There's a dormer to the right and another dormer to the left.

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Neither of them is as wide as I'm hoping to go.

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Both side are larger which, again in principle,

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means that you having a larger extension is fine.

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There's a bigger one by the looks of it at the very end.

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I'll have a look into that and I'll check

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the history of surrounding ones and I'll get back to you on that front.

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Alex needs to take loads of photos so he can carefully study

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the pictures and work out if other houses have similar style dormers.

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Roland's got his fingers crossed.

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If I'm lucky and they've got planning for that at the end there,

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I'm hoping that that might just tip

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the balance in our favour to get the full width dormer and then keep

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the pitch of that parapet wall which seems to be important for planners.

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That might be a good compromise.

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With the visit over, it will now be a nervy wait for Roland.

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There's a 21-day neighbourhood consultation period

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before Alex makes his "yes" or "no" decision.

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-Thanks for coming down.

-Nice to meet you.

-Bye.

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Up on the High Weald in Hastings,

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Carol has arrived for her crucial site visit.

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Hello, Carol Boydell.

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-Bill O'Reilly, pleased to meet you.

-Hi, I'm Cally.

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-Lovely location.

-Beautiful.

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How long have you lived here?

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We've been here just over five months.

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Came through here, fell in love with the place and thought, "Somehow we've got to do it."

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-Yeah. "And we'll have to make the house expand with us!"

-Exactly! Yes.

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This inspection is everything.

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Carol's impression of the site, and the impact of the extension,

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will determine whether the O'Reillys get to

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integrate their third bedroom or face rejection.

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Right. If we can have a look at what you're proposing to do.

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This is lower ground floor, which is this area here.

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So that's an existing bedroom that is only accessible

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from the outside and so we want to fill in this corner with a

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two-storey extension, with a utility room downstairs and a wet room.

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With internal stairs.

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With internal stairs up going in through there and then that room

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will extend out this way to become...

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-To create a study area upstairs.

-Oh, I see.

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So it's going to be a flat roof and it's going to be rendered

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to match the existing dwelling, that's good.

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OK, if I can have a look from further down the path

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and looking back at the house that would be helpful.

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With so much riding on this visit,

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Carol must be sure she's viewed the problem from every possible angle.

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She needs to take into account the O'Reilly's desire for better

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living space, but crucially she must remember her long-term

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responsibility to protect this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

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-So where is that over there?

-That's Friar's Hill.

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Can you get a view of the property at all from there?

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You probably could if were to drive over there,

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park up and walk along the road, you might get a glance.

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-But it's...

-Between properties.

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Well, that's a good thing

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because I've also got to test the impact on the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty and we can't have

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your extension having an adverse impact on that, so if it's difficult to view, that's good for you.

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Lovely. It's beautiful out here.

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We all agree, Carol, but the big question is...

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So what do you think? Will we get planning permission?

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Well, I've got to go back to the office and test it against policies,

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but I've got reservations, but I'll have a look at the local plan.

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-My main priority is the AONB.

-Right.

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I've also got to check when I get back to the office

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to see whether you're outside the built up area,

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so there is another policy that can be quite restrictive about how much

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development takes place outside the built up area, so I'm going

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-to test it against that, so I think they're your two main concerns.

-OK.

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Right, OK, I think that's everything.

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Thanks very much for being here for me.

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Hopefully you won't hear from me later,

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you'll just get a decision through, but if there is any tweaking

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that needs doing,

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or if there is a major problem I will phone you because

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I don't want you worrying about it and see what might possible.

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-Is that OK?

-That sounds great.

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-Thanks very much.

-Bye, Poppy.

-Bye.

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We appreciate that we're in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty -

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it's one of the reasons we moved here,

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and we had consulted the planning office before we came here,

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we knew there were lots of restrictions.

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But we're hopeful that this planning application will go through.

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Fingers crossed we'll be OK.

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We'll have to wait and see, but I'm hopeful.

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I want a utility room!

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I want a study.

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Fabulous property, fabulous views,

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it is going to be prominent from the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty,

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which could be an issue with regards to planning policy.

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I've got to go back to the office, have a look at the local plan.

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I think what I'll do is I don't always discuss every application

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with senior planners, but I think this is one I just want to check.

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In Southwark, Alex has been finding it hard to reach a decision.

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The location of Roland's flat in a conservation area makes

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the application problematic,

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which doesn't bode well for his son's new room.

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Alex has called a crunch meeting with Hailu from building control

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before he delivers his verdict.

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-Good morning, Hailu.

-Morning, nice to see you again.

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So obviously we're here to discuss the plans.

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There's not been any objections from neighbours,

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but I have spoken to our design conservation team about it

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and also done some research with regard to the surrounding area,

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whether there's any similar extensions

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within the conservation area and whether there's a precedent really

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to allow a large extension.

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Unfortunately from their perspective there's not.

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So what we're going to need him to do is to make it smaller

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and bring it in from the sides.

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The problem is here where the staircase is...

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Building control requires two metres of headroom clearance,

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but for Alex this will unduly affect the look of Roland's extension,

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making it out of place within the conservation area.

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What I thought about suggesting to the applicant would be that perhaps,

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bring it over to this side so that you retain that headroom there.

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It makes the internal room a bit smaller, but I think still creates

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a decent enough bedroom and obviously meets the headroom requirements.

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I mean from our side the main concern is the headroom,

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so if they come from this side, we don't have any problem

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because there is no requirement inside a room.

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So what I think what I'll suggest in that regard is that we

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look at amending the plans so that they take into account

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the conservation side of things and also the building control side

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of things and have a decent headroom in there, but also

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they will ensure that the extension is small enough, it doesn't

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dominate the building and it's not out of place in a conservation area.

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-Thank you for your time.

-Good to see you and I'll see you again soon.

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-Cheers.

-Bye-bye.

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'Yeah. I'm generally happy with the resolution.'

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The extension is still relatively large, but given

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the fact that there are similar sized extensions on the neighbouring

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properties I think I'm pretty satisfied with what we've agreed.

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Obviously we need to get the applicant to agree to those

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amendments first, but fingers crossed they'll be keen to do that

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and we can get that resubmitted and approved, hopefully, in the next week or two.

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Up on the High Weald on the outskirts of Hastings,

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the O'Reillys are longing to get the go-ahead to restructure

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the corner of their home.

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But Carol's also finding it difficult to make the decision

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which will have a huge impact on Bill and Cally's living space.

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I was quite nervous on site because it is so elevated,

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it's right at the top of that ridge and it's quite exposed.

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-Karen. Can I have a word about Hysted?

-Yep.

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Carol's referring the application to one of Hasting's senior planners -

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Karen Phillips.

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I've done the report and my main concern was about the AONB.

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And you looked at the emerging plan, didn't you?

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Yup, I looked at the emerging plan

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-and everything. I think I've covered everything.

-OK, then.

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If you can have a look at that and let me know what you think.

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-Yeah, will do.

-Thank you.

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The property's not got any immediate neighbours,

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so it's quite on its own and secluded within the AONB.

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We don't allow a lot of development in the AONB at all.

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It's quite rare that anyone gets permission to develop anything

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more significant than this sort of size extension.

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The planners have thought long and hard about the O'Reilly's application -

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so fingers crossed, everyone, when they ring in for news...

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Good afternoon. Planning. Carol speaking.

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Oh, Carol. It's Bill O'Reilly.

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I was wondering if you had any news for us?

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That's great, Carol.

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-Yes?

-Yes!

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It's a yes!

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So next step is Building Regulations,

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then we've got to find ourselves a builder and then we can get going.

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Then we can have both girls under the same roof.

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-Correct.

-Brilliant, yeah!

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Fast forward four weeks

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and the O'Reillys have begun to turn their dream into reality.

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Their planning permission maybe valid for three years,

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but they're not waiting,

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they want their extension built as soon as possible.

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Very excited that this has now gone from a concept four months ago

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to here we are breaking ground,

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and, you know, within three months we will have an extension here.

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I'm very happy with the builder that we've chosen.

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I've got confidence in the guy that we're dealing with.

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One thing that bothered me was - I knew we wouldn't find this out until

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we started digging, but there's not much concrete under that end wall.

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Is that a problem or is that more or less what you were expecting?

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We expected that to be honest with you.

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The footing is, you can see the footing over in the far corner there.

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As far as you said, no problems so far.

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-No problems so far, no.

-Excellent, excellent. OK.

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Back in Southwark, Alex is happy, building control are happy,

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but is Roland happy?

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Not likely.

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Having received an e-mail, he's come to see his planning agent

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and he can't contain his frustration.

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I'm faced with either not converting this at all, in which case I've got

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a really nasty, little one-bed and I won't be able to move my son in.

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Or having to bang our heads every time I come up the stairs,

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but even if I went for that, building control won't allow it.

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So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place really,

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so I have no choice but to contest this decision.

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The likelihood is that it's going to be refused, and then you have

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the chance of appeal, but that takes up to six months.

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I don't think there's a real issue with the outlook.

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I really don't believe that the gardens outside

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or the public space is affected.

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I don't think it diminishes anybody's view, any amenity.

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I think it's a slightly irritating,

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sticking to the policy because that's the easiest thing to do.

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"We've got these rules, therefore you have to stick with them,"

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and I think there should be more flexibility

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and discretion than that.

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Roland's plans are in serious jeopardy.

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He feels Alex's decision has left him with little option

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but to embark on a lengthy, costly and uncertain appeal process.

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The problem is that it will delay the project so much and all

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the time it's delaying it I'm paying a mortgage on a property

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I can't do anything with. I'd really like to avoid that if I can.

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I'd really like to avoid the refusal, and I'd like to avoid taking it to appeal.

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Frustration for Roland, but the O'Reilly's extension is nearing completion.

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The scaffolding has come down

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and Bill and Cally are about to get the space they dreamed of.

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When Carol came round to do the initial inspection, one of her

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key concerns was that this structure was going to fit in with

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the Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

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I look at this now and I think this extension...

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It looks as if it's always been there.

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This was all outside space when we first moved in and now

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this is going to be my utility room,

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and this is going to be the wet room, the shower, the tiles

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and the flooring is all organised.

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So this is the third bedroom that was rather strange that you

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had to go out of the front door, along a path

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and then into this room through an external door.

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This is not a strange bedroom detached from the rest of the house,

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it's fully part of the house.

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Any downsides?

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The mess has been terrific over the past 12 weeks now -

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we've been living in a building site.

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But we can actually see it all coming together.

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We can be living in this new space that we've created that makes it

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more of a family home so that when the girls do come down

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and stay they will both be in the same house.

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It's going to work, and we're really pleased with the way it's gone.

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With the extension almost finished, Carol has come down to take a look.

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She's interested to see how the new structure

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fits into this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

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Oh, brilliant. That's good.

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That looks really good.

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Do you mind if I go down the garden and have a look...

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-Come and have a look.

-..at the impact down the bottom?

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I remember you had a lovely, large garden down there.

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-That'll be lovely. OK.

-OK.

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It is quite big, but I don't think it's overly dominant.

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I'll tell you what, if people didn't know,

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they wouldn't know that that wasn't built at the same time, would they?

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I'm really pleased that I've been able to help them

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get what they wanted because the living conditions weren't right,

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it wasn't right to have a bedroom downstairs

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and you have to go round upstairs to come into the main dwelling.

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Carol did seem very happy with the way the extension has gone.

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She's said she's tried to see the house from different places

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around the area and hasn't actually managed to spot it yet.

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I guess that's a good thing that it's not sticking out

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like a sore thumb from anywhere.

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And we've still got views, beautiful views from all around,

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so we haven't lost any of the views by putting an extension in.

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-Yeah, I think we'll be here for some years.

-I think so.

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Bill and Cally have planned it, built it.

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They've spent £60,000

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and added 70 square metres of living space.

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In this highly desirable area, the value of their house

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will quickly overtake the money they've laid out.

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And Roland has decided to compromise...

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ensuring he too will soon have space for a proper second bedroom.

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Plus, he could add 70 grand to his £238,000 purchase price -

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sounds like good financial sense.

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