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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
when it comes to your holidays? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
The whole year of our lives waiting for a holiday, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
planning for a holiday that has just gone. It's devastating. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
They said it was over £3,000. I nearly had a heart attack. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
I went, "There's got to be something wrong here." | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
Your stories, your money, this is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Hello and many thanks for joining us on Rip-off Britain, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
the series that fights your corner | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
when you feel you've been let down or indeed left out of pocket. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
We've come to Tenerife, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
an island which attracts over 1.5 million British visitors every year. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
All this week, we're investigating some of the stories that | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
you've told us about your holidays and travel and it looks, Angela, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
like its all sunshine and swimming all the way. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Today, we're going to be hearing about situations where you | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
reckon you've been treated in a way that either doesn't feel right | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
or indeed, may be worse than that, it's just totally unfair. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
The companies that are involved may not necessarily have actually | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
broken the rules, but certainly in some cases, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
the customer believes that their concerns have been, well, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-handled rather shabbily, at the least. -Totally. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
Sometimes, as well as being left deeply upset, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
they've also been left hundreds of pounds worse off. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Not only are we trying to get to the bottom of what has happened, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
but we'll also have advice to stop the same thing happening to you. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Coming up, why buying a travel essential could end up with | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
you losing out. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
I felt very angry and I felt that I'd been deceived by this company. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
I think that's a complete rip-off. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
And how in Europe you could find yourself hit with a huge bill | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
for medical treatment that you thought you were getting for free. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
I thought, well, 2,000 euros | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
and we've only been in this hospital three hours. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
While most of us take out travel insurance | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
when we're planning a trip abroad, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:03 | |
when we're staying at home in the UK, well, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
we probably don't bother, but you may want to consider thinking again, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
particularly if you're paying out lots of cash up front. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
As you'll see with our next story, sometimes the worst can happen | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
and you'll find out how utterly inflexible a holiday company can be. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Green-fingered sisters, Phyllis Holiday | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
and Margie Williamson, from Cumbria, are garden crazy. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
As well as tending their own plots, they love to visit flower shows, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
gardens and garden centres all over the UK. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
For over 10 years, together with their husbands, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Eric and Colin, they always make sure that they visit | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
one of the biggest flower shows of all at Tatton Park in Cheshire. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
It'll be 12 months gone July we went to Tatton as per usual, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
the four of us. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Just wandering around, as well as looking at the garden shows, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
there is the displays that are there. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
We also look at the tents, the marquees at what they've got in, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
food tasting. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Eric was always in the food halls trying every bit of pork pie | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
or sausage or a taste of the alcohol. Just sampling them. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
-They were beautiful shows. -Oh, yeah. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
On that visit in 2012, amidst the stalls selling plants and | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
everything you could possibly need for the garden, one offered mini | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
breaks in the Scottish Highlands and that caught Eric's eye. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
The hotel was the Portsonachan | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
on the banks of stunning Loch Awe near the West Coast of Scotland. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
The foursome paid a total of £396 for a three-night | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
break at the hotel, so, essentially, £200 per couple. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
It was for an open deal which meant they could choose to go any | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
time in the next 18 months. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
No particular dates were booked, they would arrange | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
all of that later with the hotel but everything was paid for up front. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
It was a nice atmosphere we were in. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
It was a lovely day and we thought Scotland, we looked at the brochure, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
the picture on the brochure and it looked absolutely gorgeous. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
It just pulled us to it. Yeah, it would be lovely. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
A nice weekend away. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
But before they had a chance to even start thinking about the date | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
when they might like to go, the unimaginable happened. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Phyllis and her husband, Eric, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
received some news from their doctor that would change everything. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
They told us he had cancer. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
They said it was inoperable, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
it was too close to his heart to operate and it was what | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
they called small cell, which was one of the most quick spreading. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
To say it took the wind out of our sails is an understatement. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:45 | |
The whole four of us near enough collapsed. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
We were all very, very emotional. We all cried, Margie, didn't we? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
We did, we did. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
So, facing the prospect of countless visits to the hospital, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
they knew at once that they wouldn't be able to go to Scotland, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
so Phyllis decided to call the hotel and explain the situation. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
We contacted the company straightaway to let them know what was happening. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
Phyllis and Marjorie knew that the deal was | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
advertised as non-refundable, but they had hoped that the hotel | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
might be willing to make an exception, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
especially as it wasn't as if any particular dates had been yet | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
booked up, so there wasn't an actual weekend to cancel. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
When we phoned the hotel and explained what had happened, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
it was a young lad and he... Like an assistant, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
and he said he'd get the manager to ring us back. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
We phoned again and we got hold of the manager and told him | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
exactly what happened and he said there was nothing they could do. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Naturally surprised at this reaction, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Phyllis asked her brother-in-law, Walter, for some help. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Walter tried to phone the company. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
They promised that the manager would phone back. He never did. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
He said he'd phone the following day. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Walter again contacted them and they still didn't phone back. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
So then Walter went to the Citizens Advice Bureau. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
They said that as the hotel was acting within the law, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
there was nothing they could do, but, undeterred, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
Walter refused to give up. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
He called and sent letters to both the hotel | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
and their parent company called Lock Awe Highland Holidays Ltd. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He phoned numerous times, got no response by phone or by letter. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:29 | |
In despair, they even asked their local MP to have a go, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
but he too hit a brick wall. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Trying to get hold of anybody was absolutely impossible. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
The amount of letters and phone calls was unbelievable. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
No intervention, it seemed, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
could break the radio silence from the hotel, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
and matters were about to take an even more distressing turn. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
One January morning, while their son David was in the house, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Marjorie's husband, Colin, was suddenly taken ill. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
He was taking the glass through to the kitchen. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
He came back and said, "I don't feel so well." | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I just sat on the settee. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Their son David called 999. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
We looked at him and I said, "He's gone." | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-You OK? -Yeah, yeah, I just couldn't believe it. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
It's been the most traumatic time. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Both sisters were absolutely devastated | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
and with Eric becoming more unwell by the day, Phyllis was spending | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
a lot of time and money on the endless trips to and from hospital. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
The travel was costing money every day. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
It was, I think, 22 miles to Carlisle and 22 miles back. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
It was absolutely wearing on Eric. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
The hotel, as well as ignoring our pleas to refund the money, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:55 | |
it was just no good. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
They had £200 of our money which could have helped every little bit | 0:07:56 | 0:08:02 | |
with the travelling and that £200 would have helped. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
I can't understand the mentality of them. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
In February of last year, sadly, Eric died of lung cancer. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
In just a few short months since their sunny day | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
out at Tatton Park Flower Show, both sisters had lost their husbands. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Hoping that in the circumstances they would relent | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
and give the grieving sisters their money back, in May, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
their brother-in-law, Walter, sent yet another letter to the | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
hotel enclosing copies of Eric and Colin's death certificates. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
Surely, he thought, they would now show some heart, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
but again, he heard nothing. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
The hotel is acting completely within its rights. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Their terms and conditions do state that the payment is | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
non-refundable, but we wanted to know why the hotel hadn't at least | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
engaged with Phyllis and Margery to try and find a solution. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
After a number of attempts, we managed to speak to a member | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
of the team at the Portsonachan and although we're continuing to talk, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
there has as yet been no change in the hotel's position. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
With the hotel refusing to budge or even communicate, the only | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
way the sisters might have been able to get their money back is if | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
they had taken out travel insurance but sadly, they hadn't done that. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
If you want the honest truth, it didn't even enter our heads. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
And I didn't think you needed it, insurance | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
when you were on holiday in this country. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
And who can blame them? | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
While most of us now won't leave the country without holiday cover, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
the amount of people who think about getting it for a British break | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
is much, much less, but insurance could definitely be something | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
worth considering for a holiday in the UK as much as for one abroad. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
You still might need to cancel at the last minute, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
there might be an illness in the family, you might be unable to go. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
There might be delays which cause you expense, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
your bags might get lost on a domestic flight. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
There are lots of reasons that you might need to claim on a | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
travel insurance policy. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Most people think travel insurance is just for paying for medical | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
expenses abroad, but actually, it covers a whole host of things. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Meanwhile, despite everyone's best efforts, it unfortunately | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
looks like Marjorie and Phyllis will not be getting their £396 back. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
Very, very disappointed in the people that run that hotel. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
That's all I can say. I don't... | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
I don't really know how they can do things like that. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
I mean, it wasn't just the money, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
it was their attitude that really got me. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Now there may be some countries where you go on holiday that | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
if you fall ill, it's not just a very unpleasant experience, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
it can also end up costing you an awful lot of money. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Frankly, the last thing you want | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
if you've just had your holiday ruined is to find that you're | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
also presented with a bill for huge medical expenses. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
If you're travelling in Europe, you should have one of these, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
an EHIC, a European Health Insurance Card, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
because that means that you should be able to get most treatments | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
in that country absolutely free and of course if all else fails, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
you can fall back on your travel insurance. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
But there are some countries, and Tenerife is one of them, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
where unless you've done an awful lot of research beforehand, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
you really just might find yourself being treated by a doctor | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
whose costs not only can you not avoid, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
but worse than that, you're not going to be able to claim back. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
When the weather turns cold, John Halliday and his wife, Jean, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
fly south for a bit of winter sun, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
enjoying annual trips to the time-share that they own in Tenerife. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I look forward to every January because we go there | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
so when we go back, most of the winter is finished. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
We've missed a lot of the icy weather that we've | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
had in the last two or three years and it's great. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
The weather is beautiful. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
But their trip to Tenerife in 2013 did not go so well. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
80-year-old Jean developed a stomach upset and bad indigestion, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
so John asked someone on reception to call a doctor. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
All the time I was there, I kept feeling sick all the time, nonstop. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
I wasn't eating, I wasn't sleeping, and then I said, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
"You know, I think we'd better call the doctor." | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
I called reception | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
and they sent for a doctor which arrived after five minutes. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
This doctor walked in, didn't ask any questions, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
walked up to my wife, took her blood pressure and said, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
"You could be having a stroke or heart attack." | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
And then he stood up said, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
"I'm calling an ambulance and it'll be 110 euros." | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
John had thought that the cost of Jean's medical treatment | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
would be covered by her EHIC card which he'd safely brought with him. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
The European Health Insurance Card costs nothing for British | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
citizens and guarantees you the same state-funded health care | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
in other EU countries that locals are entitled to. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
But when he tried to present Jean's card to the ambulance, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
John says it was just waved away. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
I naturally thought being in Spain, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
that when they asked for doctor's money, you just pay it. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
I paid him the 110 euros cash. Everything happened so quick. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
We were there in the ambulance and gone. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
Meanwhile, John's thoughts turned to Jean's health. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
The couple had assumed that she was just suffering a repeat | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
of unpleasant but easily sorted symptoms that she'd had previously | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
in the UK, so talk of something more serious was very alarming. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
This doctor came in and he didn't tell me anything. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
John had gone down to the office to show the woman the medical card | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
and bits and pieces and while he was gone, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
they took me up to the intensive care ward. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Whilst Jean was being treated, John went to sort out the paperwork. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
Once again, he produced Jean's EHIC card, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
but once again he was in for a shock. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I went straight in the office and they asked me for the travel | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
documents and the insurance and I had everything in an envelope. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
I got the medical card and she waved it away. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
I did this three times and she kept saying, "No," | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
and waved the card away. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I was just a bit confused about it because I expected them | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
to accept it. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
Though worried about what that meant for the cost of treatment, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
John was getting increasingly concerned about Jean's condition. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
I was terrified because they took me up to intensive care | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
and told me I was having a heart attack or a stroke, but it was | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
so bad in there that it really frightened me. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
I was absolutely terrified and I told him there and then, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
I've got to get out of here. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Despite the quite proper concerns of the medical staff, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Jean began to realise that her symptoms were simply nothing | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
more than the ones she'd previously had at home. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
But when John and Jean decided they wanted to get | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
out of the hospital, they faced a much larger final bill. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
When I told them I was taking my wife out of the hospital, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
this woman from the office come down and said to me, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
"That will be 1,000 euro." | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
So, then I had to go into the office and I saw this woman | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
and she said, "This is going to be 2,000 euro if you take her out." | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
And I said to her, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
"They told me it was 1,000 euro." | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
And she said, "That was only the deposit." And I thought, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
"Well, 2,000 euro and we've only been in this hospital three hours." | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Now, Tenerife, of course, is part of Spain, which means that | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
the terms of this little card really should be honoured. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
But it's of no use whatsoever to you in a private hospital. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
And that is the crux of John and Jean's problem. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
When they'd asked for help calling a doctor, they'd assumed that a state | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
doctor would be called, one who would be covered by the EHIC scheme. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
But when all they'd wanted was to get Jean examined pronto, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
they had not specified that to the receptionist who was helping them. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
So she immediately called the number for what she considered was | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
the most appropriate doctor in the area for Jean's symptoms. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
And he turned out to be a private doctor. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
And they'd gone on to a hospital where their EHIC card | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
counted for nothing. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
It started to dawn on us that the medical card wasn't accepted | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
because our reception had called a private doctor | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
and they'd taken us to a private hospital. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
When I telephoned the reception, it didn't even dawn on me | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
if it was going to be a private one. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
I just automatically thought it would be a national health | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
one that goes with the card that I carry. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
What happened to Jean is a reminder that if you're in Europe and want | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
medical help quickly, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
you can't assume that your EHIC card will always cover you. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
The cost of treatment may be the last thing on your mind | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
but if you want to avoid a private hospital bill, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
it is a very good idea to ask | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
what sort of doctor you're being referred to. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Language barriers can make that difficult | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
but it is the official advice that's on the NHS website. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Some hospitals and health centres do have both private | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and state-funded care. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
But if it's the private one that's selected for you, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
then you could end up, like John, having to pay for treatment | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
that you could have got free from somewhere else. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
And though you can try and claim the costs back on your travel insurance, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
many policies don't cover the costs of private treatment. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Jean's costs were not covered by her insurance | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
and though she did recover from what turned out to be the same | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
symptoms of indigestion that she'd had before, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
the whole experience was simply something | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
they had not realised could happen. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
They have now identified the doctor that's near their time-share | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
from whom they will get free treatment. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
But they may not be rushing back for more winter sun. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Naturally, now that I realise what can happen to you | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
if you don't ask for a national health doctor, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
and they call you a private doctor, you're going to have to pay for one. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
I couldn't go through all that again. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain - | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
a couple desperate to sell their time-share | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and the companies who took advantage of that. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
It was at that point the realisation that I'd been scammed | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
sort of hit me and I was pretty angry. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
And now we're off to the city of Rome, that eternal favourite | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
for a weekend break. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
But just before you taste a little of la dolce vita, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Simon Calder, our travel expert, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
has some really good advice on trying to avoid those | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
underhand tactics to rid you of your hard-earned cash. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
When in Rome, they say, do as the Romans do. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
And that's pretty good advice if you're going on holiday there, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
because the locals wouldn't stand for inflated prices | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
and tricky scams and neither should you. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
The potential problems start at the airport, getting a taxi into town. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
The maximum fare you should pay is 55 euros. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
If the driver doesn't want to do it for that, find another cab. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
And, by the way, that covers four people and their luggage. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Taxi drivers in any country may sometimes try it on, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
but here you also need to watch out for the ice creams. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
In the summer of 2013, a quartet of British holiday-makers were | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
famously charged £54 for four ice creams in Rome. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
Now, the vast majority of Italian cafes, restaurants and gelaterias | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
offer good stuff at reasonable prices. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
But if you can't see a printed price list, then ask. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Honest traders won't mind at all | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
and you'll soon find out who the rogue traders are. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
And be on your guard against one of the oldest tricks | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
in the travel book, known as the "bird poo scam". | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Here's how it works. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Somebody applies a dollop of harmless substance - | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
possibly mayonnaise - to your jacket. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Shortly afterwards, their accomplice draws it to your attention | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
and offers to help you clean up. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
While your attention is distracted, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
they are helping themselves to your valuables. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Cleaning up indeed. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Finally, remember that one of Rome's most famous tourist sites, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
what looks like a bit of local flavour, can come with a cost. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
The Roman centurions outside the Colosseum | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
add to the sense of theatre at this ancient arena. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
But they are most definitely in business. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
If you so much as point a camera in their direction, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
they'll expect a fee. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
And if you pose with them, ten euros is the minimum. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
Offer just five and you'll get the thumbs down. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Now, there are all sorts of things that we think we need to take | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
with us when we're getting ready to go on holiday abroad. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
But when it comes down to it, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
there's only one thing that we really cannot do without, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
and that is your passport. | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
You could say it's the ultimate holiday essential. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
But lots of you have been in touch feeling very unhappy after going | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
online to get hold of a new passport or indeed to renew your old one. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
And you've ended up paying more than you bargained for | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
and had very little in return | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
because all is not what it seems. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Ordering a passport online should be relatively straightforward, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
but unfortunately it's all too easy to get caught out. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
That's what happened to Helen Lampard from West Sussex after she | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
and her family took a trip to the French Alps | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
where their daughter, Emily, would soon be at university. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Had a lovely time. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:36 | |
She got to visit the university | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
and also saw the accommodation that she's now in. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
But their problems began on the journey home at border patrol. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Got all the passports together. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
For some reason, decided to look at Emily's | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
and realised that it was three months out of date. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Thankfully, both the French and British border guards | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
let the family through but clearly Emily urgently needed a new passport, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
so Helen got straight on the case. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
I went online and put in "passport renewal" | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
and a website came up, the British Passport Application Service. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
It looked quite official. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
The website Helen had found, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
britishpassport.org.uk, looked as if it would get Emily's passport sorted. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
As it was Emily's first adult passport, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Helen had to put her own details on the form, too. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Then they were asked to pay the £72.50 fee. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
No alarm bells were ringing at this point | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
because £72.50 is the cost of a new passport. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
But in order to fast-track it, we were asked to pay another £20 | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
and for that they said that the application would be | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
processed within 48 hours. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Unfortunately for Helen, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
though she'd assumed she was applying for a passport the official way, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
in fact she was using just one of several websites that have sprung up | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
in the hope that unwitting travellers in a hurry will | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
click on them rather than the official government web page. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
So, what exactly would she get for her money? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Having paid the fee of £92.50, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
we realised that Emily hadn't been asked to upload her passport photo, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:17 | |
and we thought that was a bit strange and that's when | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
the alarm bells started ringing. I looked back at the website | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
and I started to notice little things like misspellings. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
"Father", for instance, was spelt F-A-R-T-H-E-R. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
And then that made me think that something was wrong. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
So I read a little more closely | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
and realised that it was just a passport checking service | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
that we'd paid for and not a new passport. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
All these websites do is take the information you give them | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
and put it into the official government website on your behalf, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
something you could very easily do yourself. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
The Home Office will still have to send you the official | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
application form to sign and, crucially, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
you'll then be asked to pay again for the actual passport fee. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
So by using one of these sites you could find yourself | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
having to shell out twice. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Now, the people behind the websites like the one Helen used aren't doing | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
anything illegal and their small print | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
does often make everything clear. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
But there's no doubt they're being a little bit crafty, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
not least in the way that the fees they charge are | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
so often set at the same level as the real passport fee. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
So, it's easy why so many of you have thought you were | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
paying for something that in fact you're not. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
I felt very angry and I felt that I'd been deceived by this company | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
simply because the £72.50 charge was exactly the same | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
amount as the cost of a new passport. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Having realised her mistake, Helen was quick to contact | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
the people behind the site to ask for her money back. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
They didn't respond to any of my calls. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Nobody picked up at all. But they did respond to my e-mails. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
But they resisted my claim to have the transaction cancelled. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:06 | |
They wouldn't refund any money. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
And they said that there was no reason to do so. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
Though she found it hard to swallow, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
by clicking "yes" to the terms and conditions on the website, Helen | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
had agreed to pay for the form to be filled in and checked on her behalf. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
So, all she could do was sit and wait for the completed form | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
to be sent back to her by the Home Office. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
And it did indeed arrive through her letter box just a few days later. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
I discovered a number of mistakes. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
The type of passport being applied for, they ticked the wrong box. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
And they'd also missed out another section. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
So, a service you pay to check your passport application is right | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
had got it wrong. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
And worse than that, the people behind the site had ticked | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
the wrong box, asking for a passport extension, not a renewal. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
If Helen didn't correct the form her application would probably be | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
rejected by the Home Office. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
What I received was a half filled-in form. And for £92.50, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
I think that's a terrible service, a complete rip-off. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Helen's experience is far from being a one-off. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
You keep telling us about other sites - | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
most of which have very similar names and very similar aims - | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
to part you from your cash for a service you don't need. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
It does seem from these unofficial sites that you're not getting | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
much for your money or, in some cases, anything at all. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:31 | |
Church caretakers Janet and Pat Cooper from Northumberland | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
were also caught out when they needed to renew their passports | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
for a trip to France. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Pat had searched online by typing in the words "passport renewal" | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
and up came a site called uk-passport.net. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
First thing you saw was "UK Passport Application" | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
and with a picture of a glossy UK passport, which looked very good. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:59 | |
It gave the impression that this an official UK Government website. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
But, of course, it was nothing of the kind. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Pat, too, had signed up to a company charging for a checking service, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
though he had no idea of that at the time. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
It said, "We require your credit card details to pay £40." | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
The next evening, I was visiting my daughter and I said, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
"I've got my passports renewed for £40 each." | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
And she said, "No, £72.50." I looked again at the website. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
I looked at the terms and conditions. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
And I realised then there was a £40 non-reimbursable fee to cover | 0:27:37 | 0:27:44 | |
the filling in of this form. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Feeling he'd been mislead, Pat e-mailed the company, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
asking for his money back. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
But he has yet to receive a reply. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
I feel that I've been mugged. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
My family say I was perhaps a mug | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
but I'll leave that to other people to decide that. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
The man behind the site Pat used has told us he believes it's made | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
clear that this is not the official passport site, which is just as well, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
as the company's been in trouble for letting people think that before. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
He also insisted that the site's polices are made very clear, although | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
he did claim that if Pat gets in touch he would arrange a refund. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
We tried contacting the site that Helen had used too, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
but we've had no reply. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Each year, the Passport Office issues 5.5 million passports | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
and it too is worried many people will unwittingly be handing over | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
cash on websites such as these in the belief that they're getting | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
a service they're not. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Indeed, Immigration Minister Mark Harper considers some of these | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
companies to be... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
..telling us it's... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
He's taking action... | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
..with the official Passport Office. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
The advice on this one is simple. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
To get your passport without paying extra for a service | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
you probably don't need, there are two clear choices - | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
you can do it online at the official government website, gov.uk, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
or you can pick up one of these, a good old-fashioned form | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
at the post office, and simply fill it in by hand. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
And if you do feel you need someone to check you've filled it in | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
correctly, the post office can do that, too. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Their Check and Send service currently costs £8.25 on top | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
of the passport fee - a lot less than you'd pay on any of these websites. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
And you can find all this information on our website... | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
For one weekend last summer, we transformed this shop in Liverpool | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
into a free consumer advice clinic. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
That's a classic case of buck-passing. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Our experts tackled your problems not just inside but outside, too, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
with workshops full of hints | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
and information to make sure you don't end up short-changed. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Fantastic to see you all here. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, don't get ripped off on holiday. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
And giving out travel tips was high on the agenda. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
Find out how much it costs to send a text message. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Cos text messages aren't free, even when you're abroad. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Ask your mobile phone operator how much your voicemail's | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
going to cost and how to get to it. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
You told us about all kinds of holiday related problems. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
Gave them the holiday voucher and showed them that we actually | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
had a reservation and they still flatly, "No, you're not booked in." | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
We thought it was going to be a fantastic holiday. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
But from then on it went downhill. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
And one consumer looking to make sure she was covered should | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
anything go wrong on her next trip abroad was Becky. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Hi. I see you reading our Rip Off Britain leaflet. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
She was keen to find out from financial journalist Mike Naylor | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
what protection paying with her new credit card would offer her. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
I want to buy a holiday on it, that's one of the reasons I got it. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Cos I know it gives you more protection | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
-but I don't really know what from. -Absolutely. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Well, it's called Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
and essentially all it does is | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
whenever you use your credit card to buy something | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
that costs more than £100 and less than £30,000, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
if something goes wrong, so, say, it's not as it was described | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
or it's not delivered so the company goes out of business, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
-or you have a problem with it... -Or a problem with the holiday. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
..with the holiday, in this case, you can then go to the credit card | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
company and they're legally obliged to help. You've got legal comeback | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
to say, "Well, actually, I didn't get the holiday that I paid for | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
"and I want you to sort it out." | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
-Do you also have a debit card? -Yeah. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
-Is it a Visa Debit card or...? -Visa Debit. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
With Visa Debit Cards you also get protection that's called Chargeback. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
It gives you similar protection to the credit card but it doesn't have | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
the same limit, so it doesn't have to be over £100. So, if you've got | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
a problem with anything, it's worth going to the bank. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
But really the message seems to be that whatever you're buying, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
you do have a level of protection from either credit or debit. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Yeah, absolutely, credit and debit cards give you better protection | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
than paying by cheque or doing a transfer. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
With all the advice, all you have to do now is enjoy your holiday. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
-Yeah, and remember it. -It's lovely to see. Bye, Becky. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
You can find fact sheets with all the advice from our experts | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
in Liverpool on our website... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
I'm sure that most of us have heard horror stories from the '80s | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and '90s of families walking along a beach being accosted | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
and then pressurised into buying an expensive time-share | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
which they've later come to regret. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Fortunately, the law has been tightened up | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
and while there are still a few problems that occur, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
on the whole the time-share industry really has cleaned up its act. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
But there is one big problem still affecting an awful | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
lot of Brits who bought back in the bad old days. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
And that is, how do you sell a time-share that you no longer want? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Half a million Britons are thought to own a time-share | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
property in the sun, the majority being in Spain, Portugal and France. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
Philip and Anne-Marie Burfield signed up for theirs 14 years ago | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
after they received a phone call saying that they'd won a holiday | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
in Portugal. To get their prize, they needed to attend a meeting. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
We went there and we had what we felt was a very good presentation, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
but it was pretty pushy, pretty hard sell the whole way though. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
Even so, they were enthused by what they saw | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
and they signed up for a week a year in the Algarve. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
But on their first trip to their new time-share, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
they didn't feel that it was quite what they'd wanted after all. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
The beaches always seemed to be very crowded. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
The locality was very commercial. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
The apartments were so close together and so small, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
everybody was on top of one another. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
So little, in fact, did their time-share appeal to them, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
that Philip and Anne-Marie have not been back since. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
They'd love to get rid of it. But that has not been easy, not least | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
because, as is often the case, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
a clause in their contract means that they are committed | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
to paying for the maintenance of the property for ever. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
In theory, that means the contract doesn't even end after their death. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
The perpetuity clause means that... | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
I have got to pay maintenance for the rest of my life. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
But the really worrying thing is the fact that... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:45 | |
it will then pass on to my children to pay that. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
And on my death, that money will come out of the estate year on year. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:55 | |
In fact, though that is what the contract says, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
such a clause won't always be legally enforceable. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
The company cannot make somebody who has not signed the agreement | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
liable to take on the time-share. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
Because they're not a party to the agreement. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
They may threaten that, they may say they can do that, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
but they can't. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
But in any case, all the couple wanted to do was get shot | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
of the place in the sun and the contract that came with it. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
12 years ago, barely two years after singing up, they put it up for sale. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
But in the dozen years since, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
they hadn't had anyone show any interest in buying it. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
I feel that having this time-share has been a little | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
bit like a millstone on our necks. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
We would virtually give the time-share away to divest ourselves | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
of the, you know, responsibilities of it | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
and the ever-increasing annual fees for maintenance. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
So, they were delighted when, last March, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
totally out of the blue, Philip received a phone call from someone | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
saying that they represented a business called | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
The Exchange Company, offering to help him - at last - dispose of it. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:04 | |
Three days later, we got this wonderful phone call saying | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
they'd actually found somebody to purchase our property. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
The Exchange Company offered us about £3,000... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
£3,900 as a one-off payment for the property. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:19 | |
I felt it was a really excellent offer | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
and I wanted to grab it with both hands. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
So, that's exactly what Philip did. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Although, first, he had to had over his debit card details, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
as The Exchange Company, which is not to be confused with | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
companies of a similar name, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
said that they would need a deposit of £1,296 | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
before they could process the sale. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
This deposit was to be held by a third party | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
until the actual transaction had taken place, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
after which that deposit would be refunded to me in full. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
But once he'd handed over money, alarm bells started to ring. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
I paid the deposit to The Exchange Company. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
But the deposit was taken by another company altogether. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
A company called KA Business Services. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
And that's shown on my bank statement. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
But still feeling relieved that at last | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
he would be rid of his time-share, Philip continued with the sale. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
I felt all my Christmases had come. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
It was a great relief. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
I was really very happy about it. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
But his elation did not last long. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
When after a few days he tried contacting both of those companies, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
he immediately hit a brick wall. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
The Exchange Company's website was gone | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
and their phone number was dead. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
And the second company, KA Business Services, again, not to be confused | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
with companies of a similar name, also seemed to be untraceable. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
When I looked at the KA Business Services documentation, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
I noticed immediately there was no address on the communication, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
there was no telephone number, there was no e-mail address. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
And it was at that point the realisation | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
that I'd been scammed hit me | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
and I was pretty angry. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
This was a disaster for Philip and his wife. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Not only were they still locked in to that time-share | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
that they didn't want, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
but they were also a further £1,295 out of pocket. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
The bank actually tried to get the money back for me | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
but were told that as a result of a signature | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
I put on the document KA sent me, there was no way they could help me. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
I contacted Action Fraud to let them know what had happened | 0:38:39 | 0:38:45 | |
and to give other people a chance to investigate this organisation | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
which I feel needs shutting down | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
as soon as possible. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Sadly, Philip is far from alone in feeling | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
ripped off by The Exchange Company. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
The police in Merseyside, where the firm has an address, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
has received more than 30 complaints about the company, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
although there have been no arrests. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
And who says lightning doesn't strike twice? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Nursing his losses but still keen to off-load his time-share, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
just months later Philip received another cold call from a company | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
promising that they would help. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
This time they said they were from a business called FHC. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Immediately, alarm bells rang because the actual way | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
they approached me and the documentation that they sent me was | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
a mirror image of that that had been sent to me by the other company. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
In fact, the phone number they use is only one digit | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
difference to the one on The Exchange Company's paperwork. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
So, coincidence? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
We tried every way we could to contact FHC to see | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
whether or not they were linked to The Exchange Company, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
but we simply could not get a response. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
As for The Exchange Company themselves, it was a similar story - | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
all of our e-mails and letters went unanswered. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
But selling or getting rid of unwanted time-shares | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
is one of the most common problems about which you contact us. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Get your head round the law | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
and you can sometimes get out of the most restrictive contracts | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
by sending a strongly-worded letter that references | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
the Consumer Rights Directive. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
In the meantime, don't be tempted by companies that are offering | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
to sell on your behalf, especially if they're asking for any cash. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Because that's left Philip in an even worse position | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
than he was in before. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
He's out of pocket and stuck with his time-share. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
I am very angry about losing my deposit. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
It's money that I really couldn't afford to lose. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
more of your stories and not just about holidays. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Or just trying to wade though never-ending small print? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
When they sit you down to sign up for things, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
they don't really give you the chance or the time | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
to read through all of that small print. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
These people have ripped me off, well and truly. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
the mistakes you made with us so others don't do the same. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Whatever's left you feeling ripped off, we want to hear from you. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Or send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
The team here is ready and waiting to look into your stories, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
so please do get in touch. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Sometimes when you feel that you've been treated unfairly, it just | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
might come down to the fact that the level of customer service | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
that you received has not been what you expected. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
But other times, well, it could be that there were key details tucked | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
away in the small print, those terrible words, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
"the small print", that you just had not quite understood. And that, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
at least, is a situation that you really can try and avoid, isn't it? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
Yes, cos let's face it, we're probably all guilty of not | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
taking the trouble to read and understand the terms and conditions. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
But the information is tucked away in there somewhere. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
And you may often stumble across really crucial details | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
that you do need to know. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
It is tedious, but you know what? It is worth plying through all of them. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
Because however your holiday may have been sold, there just | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
could be something that was not made absolutely clear or perhaps | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
you've made an assumption that's turned out to be just totally wrong. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
Either way, the more you are across the detail, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
the less likely it is you're going to end up feeling short-changed. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
I'm afraid that's it for today, but do join us again very soon | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
when we'll be investigating even more of your stories. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
Until then, if you are going on holiday, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
-I hope that yours is a really good one. -Bye-bye. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 |