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We asked you who has left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your holidays. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
The amount of money that it's cost is just astronomical. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
It wasn't just the money - it was their attitude. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip off, a simple mistake | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:24 | |
Your stories. Your money. This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
and today we're bringing a bit of sunshine and sea into your homes. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
We've even persuaded Gloria to go in for a paddle. Fun! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
And that's because we've come to the island of Tenerife, which is the largest of the Canary Islands, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
and throughout the programme we're going to be looking at some of | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
the holiday horror stories that you've been telling us about. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Because so often when a holiday disappoints or doesn't come up | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
to expectations, it could be because you've had to end up paying | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
rather more for that holiday than you originally anticipated. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
And that's exactly the point, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
because sometimes the final price of your holiday turns out to be far more | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
than when you first saw it advertised, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
and maybe that's because there are hidden charges in there | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
that perhaps weren't in your budget in the first place. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Either way, whether you're holidaying at home or abroad, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
we're going to have some unmissable advice for you | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
to ensure that none of that happens to you. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Coming up: how your phone can rack up sky high charges | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
when you're abroad, without you realising. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
When they said it was over ?3,000, I nearly had a heart attack. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
I went, "No, there's got to be something wrong here." | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
And the big name cruise company with a price match promise that you say they don't keep. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
I felt really angry, angry, angry. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
I thought, "They're not listening. Why?" | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
Well, as we've pointed out on the programme before, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
these days it's as if we're all travel agents. We sit in the comfort of our own home | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
in an armchair, cup of tea on the go, with a computer booking holidays. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Now, if you choose a company that you've never heard of before, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
and you've based it all on price, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
there may be other details that you want to take into consideration. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Because it may not seem crucial at the time, but believe me, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
these details long-term can have huge implications if something goes wrong. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
49% of us now book a holiday online, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
giving up the high street names to sift through countless | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
less familiar businesses on the internet as we hunt down the lowest price. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
And here's one that guarantees to try and find you just that. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Promising "the same holidays for lower prices", | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
West Yorkshire-based company Sunsave.com, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
not to be confused with other companies of a similar name, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
say that they have outstanding quality, service and value - | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
which is what tempted Dave Peebles from Muirkirk near Glasgow to book with them. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
I went on the website for to book a holiday to Marmaris in Turkey for 12 days. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
Basically chose the flights, chose the accommodation, | 0:02:55 | 0:03:01 | |
and it came to a full price of ?388. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
That you were happy with? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
I was very happy with that price. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
So I put in the credit card details | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
and thought I'd booked it. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
But, another screen came up saying that these prices were not live, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:21 | |
and that an adviser would actually contact me. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
The site not being live | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
means that the price you see online | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
won't necessarily be the one that you finally pay. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
So when the adviser DID call, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
she explained that the cost of the holiday had crept up. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
Only by a few pounds though, so Dave was happy to go ahead. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
This is a recording of the conversation he had with the Sunsave adviser. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
So twice Dave had asked to clarify the price, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and twice he'd been left feeling that he was correct | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
in his understanding of the total that he had to pay. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
But he hadn't registered that quick mention of the euros. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
So, as far as you were concerned with that conversation, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
you'd made a little tweak here and there for your extra accommodation, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
but as far as you were concerned, done and dusted, holiday booked. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Yes. Now, when you saw your bank statement... | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Shock horror. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
Shock horror indeed. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
A total of nearly ?695 | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
had been taken off Dave's credit card - | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
?260 more than he'd expected. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
So did you get in touch? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
I got in touch straight away, and explained that I thought there had been a mistake. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
I was then told that no mistake had been made, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
and that that was the price | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
and that I had agreed to it on the telephone conversation. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
It's true that during the phone conversation the adviser DID tell Dave | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
that he would have to pay for one of his flights in euros. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
But she DIDN'T give him a combined price for the total that he'd have to pay. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
And even listening back to the call, Dave feels it was unclear. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
With me I think the confusion came in where they brought in this...euros. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
Basically I thought I had actually been quoted in pounds, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
but listening to the conversation you eventually find the plus 292 euros. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:55 | |
Despite his protests, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
Sunsave were adamant that Dave had been treated fairly. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
And Dave is equally adamant that he hasn't. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
How do you feel now about this whole Sunsave experience? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
I'm very angry about the way that the whole situation has went, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:13 | |
from being overcharged... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Well, it looks like Sunsave's "outstanding service" | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
could cost you a lot more than you anticipated. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
But at least they say they do understand just how important a holiday is to the customer, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
so when you get when you get to your destination, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
everything's going to be perfect - isn't it? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Well, it wasn't for Angela Dawes. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
She'd plAnnd one last big family holiday with her daughter. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
It was possibly going to be the last time that Brittany came away with us. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
She didn't like coming on holiday with Mum and Dad on her own. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
We couldn't afford to always pay for a friend to go on holiday. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
But this time, they were bringing along one of Brittany's friends, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and Sunsave.com seemed to have the perfect holiday for all of them, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
on the Greek island of Rhodes. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
We was booking with a company that was reliable | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
because of the guarantees that they advertise. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
They advertise that they're ATOL-protected, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
that there's a guarantee with Sunsave. It's on the website. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Suitably reassured, Angela called the company | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
and it was only then that she discovered, like Dave, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
that Sunsave's website ISN'T live, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
and the price of her holiday was actually higher - around ?300 higher. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
And it turned out that rather than booking a traditional package holiday, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
she was being sold a collection of separate bookings. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
I assumed it would all be one package, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
but once I found out that it was a separate booking completely | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
I went along with it because that appeared to be how they did things. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
Now, you might think that that doesn't matter. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
But in fact, booking in bits as it were can make all the difference. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Because it means that you won't have quite the special legal protection that a package holiday provides. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
The travel agent made it seem as though it was all perfectly normal, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
and it was only when we got to the resort itself and things started to go wrong, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
we realised then that things weren't as they seemed. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
The problems began as soon as they tried to check into their hotel. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
The person behind the desk explained to us | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
that we'd actually been transferred to another hotel, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
and they explained to us that we'd been notified of this | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
over a week ago in the UK | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
and that we'd agreed to go to the hotel. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
At which point I absolutely categorically said no. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
This is not what had happened, we had had no notification at all | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
from the UK or anybody else | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
giving us any details of any change whatsoever. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
But it was no good. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
Angela and her family were moved to a different hotel, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
one that didn't have the facilities she'd paid for. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
They made the best of it but the holiday was a huge let down. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
And it was only when Angela got home and complained to Sunsave | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
that the consequences of it not being a package became clear. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
The company told her she didn't have a contract with them | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
but instead with the suppliers of the individual bits of her holiday. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
They've kept saying the same thing, "You have no contract with us. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
"You have booked with us but your contract is with the supplier." | 0:09:20 | 0:09:27 | |
Angela has now been offered SOME money back | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
by one of the companies involved in her booking. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
But these aren't isolated cases. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Indeed, Sunsave has previously come to the attention | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
of the Trading Standards near their West Yorkshire base, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
who told us that they have been working closely with the company | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
to reduce the number of consumer complaints made about their business. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
When we contacted Sunsave, they told us the company | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
was now under new ownership | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
and the new management has worked tirelessly | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
to ensure that situations like the ones we've heard are not repeated. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
They do agree that Angela's experience "was not satisfactory" | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
and say they provided information | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
to help her claim against the accommodation provider. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
And they tell us they've now changed their systems | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
so that all holidays are now sold as a package with one single receipt, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
and Sunsave take full responsibility for the holiday. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
They stressed their aim is to... | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
As for Dave's case, while they say the accuracy of online pricing | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
is one of the biggest challenges facing the entire industry, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
they've apologised | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
and agreed a goodwill gesture to compensate for what happened. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
But Angela doesn't feel any of that makes up for the fact | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
that the trip she'd planned so carefully was ruined. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
It's a whole year of our lives, waiting for a holiday, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
planning for a holiday, that has just gone. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
That moment's gone. It's devastating. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Come on! | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
If you've taken your mobile phone on holiday or abroad with you recently, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and let's face it, these days that's exactly what most of us do, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
you might have just paused a fraction before you went, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
just recalling those stories | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
of horrendous bills for making phone calls and accessing data | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
while you've been away. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Now, an awful lot of holidaymakers get caught out by that, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
which is precisely why the European Union want to do something about it. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
Like most 18-year-olds, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Rhoma King's mobile phone is barely out of her hands, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
but she tries to be careful not to spend too much. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Because I can use the wi-fi here at home, I don't normally go overboard. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:40 | |
Sometimes I go over, like about ?30 max. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
Although the contract is in her mum's name, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Rhoma pays for it through her part-time job, which she juggles | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
with studying at college and helping out in her parents' chip shop. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
In fact, she'd been so busy in 2012 that her parents decided | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
they'd surprise her with a very big Christmas present. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
My mum planned for me to go on holiday to the Philippines | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
to see my grandparents. I was over the moon. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
And of course, Rhoma took her mobile phone with her, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
but aware of the danger of running up expensive bills, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
she found other ways to keep in touch with her parents and friends | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
back home in Plymouth. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
I took my iPad with me, I took my laptop with me | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
and also my phone, just in case an emergency comes up. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
Once in the Philippines, it was those other devices, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and her gran's wi-fi, that Rhoma used rather than her mobile. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
So she was surprised, a few days into the trip, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
to receive a text message from her operator, Vodafone, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
warning her that she was using data on her phone. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Thanks to EU legislation, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
all phone companies are now obliged to cap the amount you can spend | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
when you're abroad so that you don't unwittingly rack up massive charges. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
They have to text you when you're getting close to the limit. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
By replying to the text, you can lift the cap, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
and carry on using data. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
But, convinced she wasn't using data anyway, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Rhoma didn't really understand what the text was saying. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
I don't know what it's about. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
It just says that I was exceeding my data allowance. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Rhoma didn't think too much more about it | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
until a few days after Christmas, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
when she - and, back home in Plymouth, her parents | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Richard and Lani, whose name the contract was in - | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
all suddenly had their phones cut off. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
We didn't know what was going on, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
and it wasn't until Lani went into the Vodafone shop to find out | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
what was going on, they informed her that there was a massive... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
amount had been built up on the account. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
Rhoma returned from the Philippines | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
to discover that the family had been sent a huge bill | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
for more than ?1,600. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I was really shocked about the bill, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
because I couldn't pay that amount of money. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
But when Richard contacted Vodafone, they explained the bill was correct. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
And that when they'd texted Rhoma - | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
whether she'd understood the consequences or not - | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
she had texted back | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
saying that she wanted the cap on her data usage lifted - | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
in other words, giving them the green light to charge her more. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
But it's clear from the number of people contacting us | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
with similar stories that text messages like these - | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
and, indeed, the whole issue of using mobile data abroad - | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
is something that is all too confusing | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and can also prove to be very expensive. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Natalie and Farid Merzouk | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
also found themselves with an eye-wateringly large bill | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
after a weekend in Spain in October 2012. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Well, my sister lives in the south of Spain with her husband, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
and it was just a short break to go and see them, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
just to stay in their house. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
In the past I would, you know, send some text messages | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
to my family to let them know that I was there, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
maybe quick phone calls, and the bill has never been large enough | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
for me to worry about. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Or at least not until this time. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
But Natalie and Farid say they only realised there was a problem | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
after they got home, when their phones were cut off, too. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I said, "Can you tell me why you've cut us off? This is weird," | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
and they said, "There's unusual spending on your account." | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
I said, "Really? Well, how much is it?" | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
And when they said it was over ?3,000, I nearly had a heart attack. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
I went, "No this has got to be something wrong, here." | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Sadly not. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
The bill showed that over the four days they were in Spain, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Farid's phone had racked up more than ?3,000-worth of data. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
The couple couldn't understand how that could be, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
because after studying the bill | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
they are adamant they were not using the phone | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
at the times Vodafone says the charges were mounting up. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
On the Saturday, 6:35, having dinner - they charged us. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
On the Sunday at three o'clock in the morning they charged us. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Monday at one o'clock in the morning they charged us. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
And Monday at 1:40, when we were shopping in Nerja, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
they charged us and that's where - | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
literally, one, two, three, four, five... | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Five charges, which came to ?3,127. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
Vodafone's reply, just as in the case of Rhoma's huge bill, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
was that either Natalie or Farid had sent a text | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
authorising the company to lift the cap on using data, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
leading to those big bills. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
But what surprised Natalie most, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
was that Vodafone said the text had been sent four months previously, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
when Farid had been on an entirely different trip abroad. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
There is a chance he might have received a text message | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
from Vodafone, but there is no way that he would have responded to it. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Because why would he? Why would he change the service, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
which allowed the bills to reach that high? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Vodafone investigated and said the bill was correct, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
and the company warned they would instruct debt collectors | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
if it wasn't paid. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
But even if, as they say, Farid had replied to the text - | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
which he doesn't remember - | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
should those instructions have also applied for a separate trip | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
four months later? | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Natalie asked the communications ombudsman to investigate. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
But, after an agonising three month wait, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
the ombudsman found in favour of Vodafone. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Oh, I felt awful. I cried on the phone. I rang them up. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
With no alternative, Natalie and Farid are now paying back | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
that whopping ?3,127 bill in monthly instalments. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
We can't afford it, basically. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
We don't have that kind of money. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
When we contacted Vodafone they said that their... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
and removing the cap on data limits... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
They stressed the only way it can be lifted is by a customer | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
either speaking to them directly or by replying to the text message | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
by texting back the word "STOP". | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
They reiterated that in both cases | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
they did get back messages | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
authorising that the cap on data usage be lifted. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
In Natalie's case, they said they received two messages | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
on that earlier trip - one of which, whether she understood it or not, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
was agreeing to have the cap lifted, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
and the other to say she wanted to opt out | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
of receiving data notification altogether. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Vodafone then sent another message warning of high spending | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
four months later during Natalie's Spanish trip | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
but by the time she got it the couple were on their way home, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
and the money already spent. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
So, in both cases, those huge bills do still have to be paid. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
But the issue of the text messages | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
and whether you've replied or even understood them, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
is only part of the problem. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
Both Natalie and Rhoma insist they weren't even using their phones. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
So how is it possible for your mobile to run up huge costs for data | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
that you weren't even aware you were getting? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Could it be that our smartphones can sometimes be a little TOO smart | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
for their own good? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:43 | |
Mobile phones are getting ever more complex and sophisticated, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
and very often what they're doing is downloading content | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
or updating apps in the background without us knowing. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Well, apparently, with a smartphone it doesn't really matter | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
whether you're making a call or not, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
unless you have specifically switched off data roaming, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
you could have an app working quietly away | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
in the background as usual | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
and racking up a huge bill while it's doing it. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
To cut down on the number of people getting shock bills | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
like Rhoma and Natalie, the European Union want to standardise the costs | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
of data and phone calls across all of Europe. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
It's just a proposal at the moment, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
with some suggesting that it will come into force in 2016. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
But until then, take your phone abroad | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
and you really do need to understand the costs, the risks, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
and any warnings that you might be sent along the way! | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
I take my phone with me on holiday now but I switch it off. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
I don't... I only switch it back on when I'm at the airport. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Still to come... | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
a holiday on four wheels | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
and a company that can take you on a very long and winding road | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
to know the final price you'll pay. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
All I wanted from the start was, "This is what you owe, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
"this is what you need to pay, this is when by." | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
But every time I got in touch, the amounts varied. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
In the past few years, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
Turkey has rapidly become one of the most popular | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
package holiday destinations. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
But like anywhere in the world, if you're not in the know, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
you could unwittingly risk losing all of your cash. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
So, travel expert Simon Calder has come up with a few tips | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
to make sure that holidaymakers and travellers do not lose out. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Close to three million British people go to Turkey every year, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
many of us for the beaches, of course, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
but there's also dramatic landscapes and fascinating culture. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
Plus the fine city of Istanbul, on the cusp between Europe and Asia. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
I first went to Turkey 25 years ago, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and since then I've picked up one or two ways | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
of spending rather more than you intended. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
To avoid that, Simon has some key advice | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
if you use your mobile phone while you're away. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
Bear in mind that Turkey isn't in the European Union, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
so therefore the normal cap on call roaming charges doesn't apply. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
Your provider can charge more or less what they want. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Mine charges five times as much to make a call | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
as it does from neighbouring Greece or Cyprus. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
It's never advisable to fall foul of the law in a foreign country, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
but in Turkey you could find yourself with a fine | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
just for walking down the street, unless you follow one simple rule. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
In Britain, of course, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
you're not obliged to carry any kind of identification. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
In Turkey, though, like many other countries, you are. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
So, that means your passport. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
The only acceptable alternative is a photocopy of the business pages, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
you know, carrying that lovely photograph of you. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
If you don't have a passport or an acceptable photocopy, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
you could be fined. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
Turkey's exotic cities are well worth leaving the beach for. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
But scammers here can use an all too familiar trick | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
to get their hands on your precious lira. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
One day, I was walking through the streets of Istanbul. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Just in front of me, a shoe shine man. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
And he dropped his brush. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
I said, "Excuse me, you've dropped your brush." | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
I picked it up and I gave it back to him. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
He was so grateful. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
He said, "I'll give you a shoe shine." | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Luckily, I was wearing sandals. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
That's because later I found out what the scam is. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
You, the innocent helpful tourist, hand back the brush. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
He says, "Oh, how kind of you. I'm going to give you a shoe shine." | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
You think, "Oh, how nice, this is free." But it's not free. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
And if you decline to pay, well, he might get very aggressive, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
and find that he has got some very aggressive friends with him, too. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
For more information on how to avoid scams | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
wherever you're going on holiday, visit our website... | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Now, while you're soaking up the sun and enjoying the holiday | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
that you've saved all year for, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
one thing that's sure to dampen your spirits | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
is to find out that others on the same holiday | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
have paid rather less than you did. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
So, how do you avoid that? | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
Well, one of the biggest names in the business | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
has come up with a solution. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
It's called a price promise. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Unfortunately, some of you have found that that's a promise | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
that's easier made than kept. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
It's one of the best-known names on the high seas - P | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
First setting sail back in 1837, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
when what was then known as the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
won the contract to take the mail from Britain to Spain and Portugal. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
The ships now ferry cruise passengers along the same routes, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
but those Mediterranean waters have become rather choppy | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
for some of the passengers, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
who were encouraged to book their tickets by a price promise. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
One that was enough to convince Linda Cox and Des Nurding | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
to book their next cruise well in advance. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
We were always told if you book early, you can save money. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
By booking early, you get a certain amount off. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
No strangers to the ocean waves, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Linda and Des have now been on ten cruises. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
And one they'd planned for last year was meant to be extra special. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
My 70th birthday was coming up in April. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
We booked early, and we wanted it to be a special occasion. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
We didn't want any party. We just wanted to be away by ourselves. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
They chose a P cruise from Southampton | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
that would take them to some of the Mediterranean's finest cities, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
including Barcelona and Florence. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
Well, we chose the Mediterranean cruise. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
We thought the weather would be kind to us. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
We were having lousy weather in England | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
and I thought, "Let's go somewhere warm," | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
so we went to the Mediterranean. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
The couple booked eight months in advance, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
and were confident that they'd secured the best fare | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
because of the price promise that came with it. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
The price promise was the main reason that we booked it, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
because with a price promise, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
you should be sure of what's going to happen. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
P's price promise means that if the price of the same cruise | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
and same grade of cabin drops as the departure date approaches, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
any difference in price will be passed on - | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
not in cash, but in other ways, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
such as on-board spending money or a cabin upgrade. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Now, crucially for Des and Linda, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
the promise only covers reductions | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
to what the company calls their Vantage Fares, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
which come with added extras. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
It still allows P to offer cheaper, more basic fares | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
nearer to sailing, which they call Getaway Fares. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
But for Des, there was no doubt about what he'd signed up to. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
My understanding with the price promise | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
was that if the prices came down... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
..we were going to get an upgrade or extra on-board spend. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
So, Des wasn't worried when, four months later, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
he received a brochure from another travel agent advertising P cruises | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
which seemed quite clearly to show the same type of fare | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
that they'd booked, for the same cruise, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
but at ?395 less per person. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
A significant ?790 in total. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
But Des assumed that the price promise would now kick in. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
When we seen the Vantage Fares coming down in the pieces of paper | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
and the brochures that were coming through, I thought surely they - | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
you know, they'll give us that extra on-board spend or upgrade the cabin. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
Linda and Des wrote to P to ask that the price promise be honoured, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
sending a copy of the brochure they had received, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
which showed - plain as anything - that the cheaper fare | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
WAS a Vantage Fare like the one they booked, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
and therefore should get them those on-board benefits. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
But the company disagreed, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
and over a series of letters across six months repeatedly insisted | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
that what they'd seen advertised was a Getaway Fare, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
and therefore wasn't covered under the Vantage Fare price promise. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
It was no good ringing them. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
I thought it was the best thing to send a letter. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
We sent a few by recorded delivery, as well, to make sure they got them, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
and we thought, "Well, they're not reading them, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
"they're not listening! Why...why? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
I felt so angry about it, I really did. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
By this stage, with all the hassle | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
of trying to get the price promise honoured, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
the gloss was starting to come off | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
what should have been an unforgettable trip. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
But Des and Linda were still hopeful that when they arrived on the ship, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
the confusion would be cleared up and they would be given the upgrade | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
that they felt they were owed. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
We thought they'd still honour it we really did. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
We thought they'd sort of say, "Oh, well, they've kept onto us enough, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
"and we'd better do something about it." | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
And they didn't do so. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Although Des and Linda did go on to have a great time on the cruise, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
they still feel they've been treated unfairly. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
So, are they right? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Well, when we contacted P, it finally agreed that, yes, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
the fares Linda and Des saw were Vantage Fares, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
but they were... | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
..and... | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
However, P apologise for the fact | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
this was not fully or correctly explained to the couple | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
in all of the correspondence. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
The company told us they'd be contacting the couple direct, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
and will also be contacting the company | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
that sent Linda and Des the special offer to... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
But Des and Linda aren't the only disgruntled customers | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
to contact us after finding that P's price promise | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
was hard to fathom. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Dozens of other cruise passengers have also written to us about it, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
and although not all were comparing the correct fares, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
it does seem that this offer is not always being understood | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
as clearly as the company might like to think that it is. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
But confusion is set to end. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
P tell us that from this spring, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
they've changed their entire fare pricing structure | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
following feedback from customers. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
I felt really angry, angry, angry, you know? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
They'd have to give us a very good deal to make us go back to P again. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
Yeah, definitely. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
JULIA: Last summer, Rip Off Britain went on the road again. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
This time we were in Liverpool, and not just with our Pop Up Shop. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Put your hand up if you think you could save about ?10 a year | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
by switching. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
We were also giving out plenty of free consumer advice | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
on the streets outside. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
And, actually, we're going to particularly talk about | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
taking your mobile phone on holiday. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
No story is too big or too small for Rip Off Britain, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
and over here we have our gripe corner, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
where people can come and get things off their chest. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
When you have a complaint against a budget airline, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
you can only contact them by e-mail, and there's no personal contact, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
and they just keep sending a standard e-mail back. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
I parked my car at the airport to pick someone up for ten seconds, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
and they sent me a bill for ?60. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Booking flights online is something that really gets Annoying | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
because I think when you leave the website and go back up | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
they knock up the prices because they know you've already looked online. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
That last complaint is one we hear a lot. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
So, is it true? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Stephen was another customer who called in with the same concern. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Me family are looking to go on holiday soon, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
and we've heard this kind of rumour type thing, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
that when you visit a travel website and look at something, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
and then if you go back and revisit it, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
that sometimes the price goes up and it is sometimes worth, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
like, deleting your internet history, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
er...I just wondered if there was any truth to it. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Good question. Well, it's a fantastic question, Stephen, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and I am pleased to say that the answer is no. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
It's a great urban myth. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Basically, when you're looking at that flight | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
from Liverpool to Malaga, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
there's a number of seats they want to sell at ?50, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
a number at 70, a number at 80, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
and all that happens is people like me or Gloria come along | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
and we actually book them at ?80, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
and by the time you come and have a look the next day, they've gone up. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Does that help you in your mind? Yeah, that's great. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Thanks a lot. Make up your mind. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
So, they're not watching you yet, but they might be soon. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
You can find full details of all Simon's advice | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
from our Pop Up Shop on our website... | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Now, as you know, last summer in the UK was one of the hottest ever, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
and maybe it is all that sunshine that's prompted people, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
rather than going abroad, to stay at home | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
and explore the marvellous things that we have in our own country, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
and one of the best ways of doing that | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
is to hire a campervan or a motorhome, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
and then you can take to the road with great freedom | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
and not have to stick to all those rules and regulations. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
However, several people who used one particular hire company | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
have told us that their holiday didn't turn out quite as carefree | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
as they'd hoped, largely because the final amount that they had to pay | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
was nothing like the price they were originally quoted. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
There was a time when the only options for taking a break | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
close to nature were to spend hours wrestling with tent pegs | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
or fiddling with the towbar on your caravan. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
But then came the motorhome, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
bringing with it the freedom of your own mini hotel on wheels. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
And that appealed to Mick and Ann Downey | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
when they started planning their summer holiday. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
We have been camping quite a few times, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
but we feel like we're getting a little bit old for camping now | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
so that's why the campervan was more appealing. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
So, Mick and Ann searched online | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
and found rental company UnbeatableHire.com - | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
not to be confused with companies with similar names - | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
and it did seem to live up to the name. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
And it was unbeatable, price-wise. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
I mean, at least ?100 cheaper than where else I could find. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
The Downeys were quoted ?1,170 for just under two weeks | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
with the motorhome. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Happy with the price, Mick booked it, paying a deposit of ?99. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
But five days later he was surprised to receive an e-mail | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
from UnbeatableHire telling him that he would have to pay ?100 more | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
than he was originally quoted. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:13 | |
The extra costs were down to insurance. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
One of the questions asked was, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
"Have you had an accident in the last three years?" | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Well, I had. I had a little bump, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
and they asked me, "Have you had any motoring offences?" | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
I had three points on my licence. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Now, the terms and conditions on the UnbeatableHire website | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
do say that "Insurance cost may vary based on driving licence history." | 0:33:35 | 0:33:41 | |
But Mick and Ann strongly believe they should have been told more | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
about that at the time of the initial quote, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
not after they had paid the ?99 deposit. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
It would have been nice to have been given some information | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
verbally, over the phone, about these extras and surcharges | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
before we gave them the deposit. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Er... They didn't. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
It's there, if you try to look for it, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
but you need to be a lawyer to understand it. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
No, it just made me angry. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
The couple decided that the extra ?100 was just too much. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
And they assumed they could simply cancel the booking | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
and get their deposit back. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
But with this company, that's not an option. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
I e-mailed them several times. I phoned them several times. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
I asked them to get back to me | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
and in the end I got what I considered a pretty rude e-mail. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
It said, "We have cancelled the agreement." | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
Then it said, "Under no circumstances | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
"are you going to get your money back." | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Once again the couple were directed to those terms and conditions, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
which state that the deposit they made of ?99 is non-refundable | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
"under any circumstances". | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
So that left Mick and Ann tied into a deal for which they hadn't | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
known the final price. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:02 | |
They say if they had, they wouldn't have booked. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
They're angry that they had no idea how much their total bill would be | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
before having to hand over a deposit that the company won't return | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
whatever the reason. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
Feeling they had no choice, Mick and Ann cancelled the motorhome, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
lost their deposit, and instead went camping on the Isle of Sheppey. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
We weren't going to let it stop us. We took the tent. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
We had a good time and so did the little dog. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Another UnbeatableHire customer, Jack Lowe, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
was so determined to enjoy a road trip with his mates | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
that he put up with a price that seemed never to stop changing. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
We're of that age now where Magaluf and Zante | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
are probably a little bit too young for us. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
We decided to go to Scotland instead and have a lad's holiday. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
So, that's what we did. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:50 | |
Set on booking a motorhome, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
the group was attracted by the prices on UnbeatableHire.com, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
who quoted them ?1,070 for their eight-day trip. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
I thought, between four people, that's not bad at all. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
For a week's accommodation in Edinburgh, in Scotland, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
we're not going to get better than that. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Jack and his mates agreed to pay for the hire in instalments. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
So, at the end of January last year, Jack made the first payment of ?200. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
But no sooner had he sent the money to UnbeatableHire | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
than they sent him an e-mail saying the total cost of the rental | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
had increased by more than ?70. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Then, less than 90 minutes later, Jack was sent another e-mail | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
telling him the total cost was now ?1,166.40 - | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
over ?90 more than the first quote. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
And it didn't stop there. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
Over the next six months, with no explanation, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
the price UnbeatableHire wanted Jack and his friends to pay | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
went up and down a total of seven times, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
at one point topping more than ?2,600. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
All I wanted from the start was "This is what you owe. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
"This is what you need to pay. This is when by." | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
But every time I got in touch, the amounts varied. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
When Jack complained, he was told the cost would now be ?1,178.40 | 0:37:03 | 0:37:09 | |
and that one more payment would settle the account. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
So, he agreed that they could take this final amount | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
from his debit card. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
But to his horror, the company took ?120 more than he was expecting - | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
again, with no explanation. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
I was unable to get in touch with them via phone. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
I tried e-mailing many, many times - no replies. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
There was also... I think I spoke to four ladies, in total, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
all with the same e-mail address | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
but you couldn't get hold of them should you try. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
And that's when Jack realised that cancelling wasn't an option. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
UnbeatableHire doesn't offer refunds | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
within 42 days of collecting a motorhome. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
So, if Jack tried to cancel, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:50 | |
he and his friends would lose everything they had paid so far. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
I thought I'd have a look through their terms and conditions. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
All fees are forfeit, so I'd have lost all the money already paid, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
just by cancelling. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:01 | |
So, Jack and his friends decided to swallow the extra cost | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
and prepare for their holiday. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
But even that wasn't the end of it. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
With less than a week to go, UnbeatableHire told Jack | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
the group owed yet more money - this time, ?164. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
Again, they felt they had no choice but to pay it, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
which rather took the shine off their Highland adventure. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Well, it was definitely a fantastic holiday, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
there's no question about that, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
but it was probably not the best of experiences. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
I'll definitely think twice about hiring - well, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
most things again, let alone a campervan. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Since we met Jack, we've spoken to half a dozen more customers | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
of UnbeatableHire.com with similar stories - | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
either telling us they had more money taken out of their accounts | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
than they'd authorised, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
or that prices had increased after they'd paid their deposit. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
So how does the company explain that? | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
When we contacted them, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
they admitted that in Jack's case they made a mistake. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
They've explained he was incorrectly given a discount | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
on his insurance surcharge, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
but as their systems weren't properly updated | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
to reflect that, they... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
They've apologised, refunding both their deposit and the difference | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
between the amount first quoted and the figure Jack eventually paid. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
As for Mick And Ann's case, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
the company stress their terms, conditions and surcharges | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
are clearly explained on their website, so... | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
..particularly as... | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
They say they suggested Mick should complete an online form | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
so they could see if his surcharge could be reduced | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
but he didn't respond. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Nonetheless, they have now refunded his ?99 deposit | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
as a gesture of goodwill. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
The company went on to say that a non-refundable deposit | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
is common with motorhome hire companies. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
And they are confident that issues like these... | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
..thanks to a new... | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
But is it right that a company can sign you up | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
with a non-refundable deposit before you've agreed a final price? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
The guidance is clear | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
in the office of fair trading's unfair contract terms, rules, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
that customers should be given penalty free exit from a contract | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
if the supplier has put the price up materially, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
and it would seem that that's what's happened in this case | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
with UnbeatableHire. The customers haven't been given the chance | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
to get out without paying that penalty. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
So, although Mick finally got his ?99 refunded, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
he feels he shouldn't have had to fight quite so hard | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
to get his money back in the first place. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
We thought we'd been treated really badly by UnbeatableHire, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
but there's nothing I can do about it. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain we're always ready to investigate your stories, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
and not just about holidays. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
Confused over your bills, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
or just trying to wade through never-ending small print? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
When they sit you down to sign up for things, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
they don't really give you the chance or the time | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
to read through all of that small print. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
These people have ripped me off, well and truly. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Or send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
The team here is ready and waiting to look into your stories, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
so please do get in touch. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
Well, as you know, holidays do not come cheap, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
and when you've worked out just how far your budget will stretch | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
and you find a holiday that you really approve of and like, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
the last thing you want to discover are all those unexpected costs, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
particularly if the company you chose | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
really was the best value in the first place. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Exactly, so when you are booking your holiday | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
it really is worth taking the time to ask questions | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
and make absolutely sure that the amount of money you are being quoted | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
for your holiday is absolutely the final price | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
that you are going to have to pay, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
and until you are happy with the answers, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
do not part with a penny of your money. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
That's probably the best advice of all. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Don't part with your money | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
until you're absolutely sure you've got what you want. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
I'm afraid that's where we've got to leave it for today. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
But remember we're always here to deal with your gripes, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
whether it's at home or abroad. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
And you can contact us on... | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
So, until the next time, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
can I just say, if you are having some holidays, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
we hope that they go really smoothly. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
And that you get as much sunshine as we've had here in Tenerife! | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Bye-bye. You're coming into the sea. You come with me. Bye! Yes! | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 |