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We asked you who has left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your holidays.

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The amount of money that it's cost is just astronomical.

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It wasn't just the money - it was their attitude.

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So whether it's a deliberate rip off, a simple mistake

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or a catch in the small print,

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we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it.

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Your stories. Your money. This is Rip Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain,

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and today we're bringing a bit of sunshine and sea into your homes.

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We've even persuaded Gloria to go in for a paddle. Fun!

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And that's because we've come to the island of Tenerife, which is the largest of the Canary Islands,

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and throughout the programme we're going to be looking at some of

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the holiday horror stories that you've been telling us about.

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Because so often when a holiday disappoints or doesn't come up

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to expectations, it could be because you've had to end up paying

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rather more for that holiday than you originally anticipated.

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And that's exactly the point,

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because sometimes the final price of your holiday turns out to be far more

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than when you first saw it advertised,

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and maybe that's because there are hidden charges in there

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that perhaps weren't in your budget in the first place.

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Either way, whether you're holidaying at home or abroad,

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we're going to have some unmissable advice for you

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to ensure that none of that happens to you.

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Coming up: how your phone can rack up sky high charges

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when you're abroad, without you realising.

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When they said it was over ?3,000, I nearly had a heart attack.

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I went, "No, there's got to be something wrong here."

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And the big name cruise company with a price match promise that you say they don't keep.

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I felt really angry, angry, angry.

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I thought, "They're not listening. Why?"

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Well, as we've pointed out on the programme before,

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these days it's as if we're all travel agents. We sit in the comfort of our own home

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in an armchair, cup of tea on the go, with a computer booking holidays.

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Now, if you choose a company that you've never heard of before,

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and you've based it all on price,

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there may be other details that you want to take into consideration.

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Because it may not seem crucial at the time, but believe me,

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these details long-term can have huge implications if something goes wrong.

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49% of us now book a holiday online,

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giving up the high street names to sift through countless

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less familiar businesses on the internet as we hunt down the lowest price.

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And here's one that guarantees to try and find you just that.

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Promising "the same holidays for lower prices",

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West Yorkshire-based company Sunsave.com,

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not to be confused with other companies of a similar name,

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say that they have outstanding quality, service and value -

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which is what tempted Dave Peebles from Muirkirk near Glasgow to book with them.

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I went on the website for to book a holiday to Marmaris in Turkey for 12 days.

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Basically chose the flights, chose the accommodation,

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and it came to a full price of ?388.

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That you were happy with?

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I was very happy with that price.

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So I put in the credit card details

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and thought I'd booked it.

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But, another screen came up saying that these prices were not live,

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and that an adviser would actually contact me.

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The site not being live

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means that the price you see online

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won't necessarily be the one that you finally pay.

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So when the adviser DID call,

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she explained that the cost of the holiday had crept up.

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Only by a few pounds though, so Dave was happy to go ahead.

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This is a recording of the conversation he had with the Sunsave adviser.

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So twice Dave had asked to clarify the price,

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and twice he'd been left feeling that he was correct

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in his understanding of the total that he had to pay.

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But he hadn't registered that quick mention of the euros.

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So, as far as you were concerned with that conversation,

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you'd made a little tweak here and there for your extra accommodation,

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but as far as you were concerned, done and dusted, holiday booked.

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Yes. Now, when you saw your bank statement...

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Shock horror.

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Shock horror indeed.

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A total of nearly ?695

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had been taken off Dave's credit card -

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?260 more than he'd expected.

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So did you get in touch?

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I got in touch straight away, and explained that I thought there had been a mistake.

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I was then told that no mistake had been made,

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and that that was the price

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and that I had agreed to it on the telephone conversation.

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It's true that during the phone conversation the adviser DID tell Dave

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that he would have to pay for one of his flights in euros.

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But she DIDN'T give him a combined price for the total that he'd have to pay.

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And even listening back to the call, Dave feels it was unclear.

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With me I think the confusion came in where they brought in this...euros.

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Basically I thought I had actually been quoted in pounds,

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but listening to the conversation you eventually find the plus 292 euros.

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Despite his protests,

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Sunsave were adamant that Dave had been treated fairly.

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And Dave is equally adamant that he hasn't.

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How do you feel now about this whole Sunsave experience?

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I'm very angry about the way that the whole situation has went,

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from being overcharged...

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Well, it looks like Sunsave's "outstanding service"

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could cost you a lot more than you anticipated.

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But at least they say they do understand just how important a holiday is to the customer,

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so when you get when you get to your destination,

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everything's going to be perfect - isn't it?

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Well, it wasn't for Angela Dawes.

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She'd plAnnd one last big family holiday with her daughter.

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It was possibly going to be the last time that Brittany came away with us.

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She didn't like coming on holiday with Mum and Dad on her own.

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We couldn't afford to always pay for a friend to go on holiday.

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But this time, they were bringing along one of Brittany's friends,

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and Sunsave.com seemed to have the perfect holiday for all of them,

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on the Greek island of Rhodes.

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We was booking with a company that was reliable

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because of the guarantees that they advertise.

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They advertise that they're ATOL-protected,

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that there's a guarantee with Sunsave. It's on the website.

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Suitably reassured, Angela called the company

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and it was only then that she discovered, like Dave,

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that Sunsave's website ISN'T live,

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and the price of her holiday was actually higher - around ?300 higher.

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And it turned out that rather than booking a traditional package holiday,

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she was being sold a collection of separate bookings.

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I assumed it would all be one package,

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but once I found out that it was a separate booking completely

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I went along with it because that appeared to be how they did things.

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Now, you might think that that doesn't matter.

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But in fact, booking in bits as it were can make all the difference.

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Because it means that you won't have quite the special legal protection that a package holiday provides.

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The travel agent made it seem as though it was all perfectly normal,

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and it was only when we got to the resort itself and things started to go wrong,

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we realised then that things weren't as they seemed.

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The problems began as soon as they tried to check into their hotel.

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The person behind the desk explained to us

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that we'd actually been transferred to another hotel,

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and they explained to us that we'd been notified of this

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over a week ago in the UK

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and that we'd agreed to go to the hotel.

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At which point I absolutely categorically said no.

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This is not what had happened, we had had no notification at all

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from the UK or anybody else

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giving us any details of any change whatsoever.

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But it was no good.

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Angela and her family were moved to a different hotel,

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one that didn't have the facilities she'd paid for.

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They made the best of it but the holiday was a huge let down.

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And it was only when Angela got home and complained to Sunsave

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that the consequences of it not being a package became clear.

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The company told her she didn't have a contract with them

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but instead with the suppliers of the individual bits of her holiday.

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They've kept saying the same thing, "You have no contract with us.

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"You have booked with us but your contract is with the supplier."

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Angela has now been offered SOME money back

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by one of the companies involved in her booking.

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But these aren't isolated cases.

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Indeed, Sunsave has previously come to the attention

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of the Trading Standards near their West Yorkshire base,

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who told us that they have been working closely with the company

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to reduce the number of consumer complaints made about their business.

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When we contacted Sunsave, they told us the company

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was now under new ownership

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and the new management has worked tirelessly

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to ensure that situations like the ones we've heard are not repeated.

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They do agree that Angela's experience "was not satisfactory"

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and say they provided information

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to help her claim against the accommodation provider.

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And they tell us they've now changed their systems

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so that all holidays are now sold as a package with one single receipt,

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and Sunsave take full responsibility for the holiday.

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They stressed their aim is to...

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As for Dave's case, while they say the accuracy of online pricing

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is one of the biggest challenges facing the entire industry,

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they've apologised

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and agreed a goodwill gesture to compensate for what happened.

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But Angela doesn't feel any of that makes up for the fact

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that the trip she'd planned so carefully was ruined.

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It's a whole year of our lives, waiting for a holiday,

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planning for a holiday, that has just gone.

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That moment's gone. It's devastating.

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Come on!

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If you've taken your mobile phone on holiday or abroad with you recently,

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and let's face it, these days that's exactly what most of us do,

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you might have just paused a fraction before you went,

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just recalling those stories

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of horrendous bills for making phone calls and accessing data

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while you've been away.

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Now, an awful lot of holidaymakers get caught out by that,

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which is precisely why the European Union want to do something about it.

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Like most 18-year-olds,

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Rhoma King's mobile phone is barely out of her hands,

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but she tries to be careful not to spend too much.

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Because I can use the wi-fi here at home, I don't normally go overboard.

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Sometimes I go over, like about ?30 max.

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Although the contract is in her mum's name,

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Rhoma pays for it through her part-time job, which she juggles

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with studying at college and helping out in her parents' chip shop.

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In fact, she'd been so busy in 2012 that her parents decided

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they'd surprise her with a very big Christmas present.

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My mum planned for me to go on holiday to the Philippines

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to see my grandparents. I was over the moon.

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And of course, Rhoma took her mobile phone with her,

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but aware of the danger of running up expensive bills,

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she found other ways to keep in touch with her parents and friends

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back home in Plymouth.

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I took my iPad with me, I took my laptop with me

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and also my phone, just in case an emergency comes up.

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Once in the Philippines, it was those other devices,

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and her gran's wi-fi, that Rhoma used rather than her mobile.

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So she was surprised, a few days into the trip,

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to receive a text message from her operator, Vodafone,

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warning her that she was using data on her phone.

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Thanks to EU legislation,

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all phone companies are now obliged to cap the amount you can spend

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when you're abroad so that you don't unwittingly rack up massive charges.

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They have to text you when you're getting close to the limit.

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By replying to the text, you can lift the cap,

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and carry on using data.

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But, convinced she wasn't using data anyway,

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Rhoma didn't really understand what the text was saying.

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I don't know what it's about.

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It just says that I was exceeding my data allowance.

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Rhoma didn't think too much more about it

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until a few days after Christmas,

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when she - and, back home in Plymouth, her parents

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Richard and Lani, whose name the contract was in -

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all suddenly had their phones cut off.

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We didn't know what was going on,

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and it wasn't until Lani went into the Vodafone shop to find out

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what was going on, they informed her that there was a massive...

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amount had been built up on the account.

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Rhoma returned from the Philippines

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to discover that the family had been sent a huge bill

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for more than ?1,600.

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I was really shocked about the bill,

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because I couldn't pay that amount of money.

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But when Richard contacted Vodafone, they explained the bill was correct.

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And that when they'd texted Rhoma -

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whether she'd understood the consequences or not -

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she had texted back

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saying that she wanted the cap on her data usage lifted -

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in other words, giving them the green light to charge her more.

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But it's clear from the number of people contacting us

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with similar stories that text messages like these -

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and, indeed, the whole issue of using mobile data abroad -

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is something that is all too confusing

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and can also prove to be very expensive.

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Natalie and Farid Merzouk

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also found themselves with an eye-wateringly large bill

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after a weekend in Spain in October 2012.

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Well, my sister lives in the south of Spain with her husband,

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and it was just a short break to go and see them,

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just to stay in their house.

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In the past I would, you know, send some text messages

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to my family to let them know that I was there,

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maybe quick phone calls, and the bill has never been large enough

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for me to worry about.

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Or at least not until this time.

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But Natalie and Farid say they only realised there was a problem

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after they got home, when their phones were cut off, too.

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I said, "Can you tell me why you've cut us off? This is weird,"

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and they said, "There's unusual spending on your account."

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I said, "Really? Well, how much is it?"

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And when they said it was over ?3,000, I nearly had a heart attack.

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I went, "No this has got to be something wrong, here."

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Sadly not.

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The bill showed that over the four days they were in Spain,

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Farid's phone had racked up more than ?3,000-worth of data.

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The couple couldn't understand how that could be,

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because after studying the bill

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they are adamant they were not using the phone

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at the times Vodafone says the charges were mounting up.

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On the Saturday, 6:35, having dinner - they charged us.

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On the Sunday at three o'clock in the morning they charged us.

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Monday at one o'clock in the morning they charged us.

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And Monday at 1:40, when we were shopping in Nerja,

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they charged us and that's where -

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literally, one, two, three, four, five...

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Five charges, which came to ?3,127.

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Vodafone's reply, just as in the case of Rhoma's huge bill,

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was that either Natalie or Farid had sent a text

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authorising the company to lift the cap on using data,

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leading to those big bills.

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But what surprised Natalie most,

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was that Vodafone said the text had been sent four months previously,

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when Farid had been on an entirely different trip abroad.

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There is a chance he might have received a text message

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from Vodafone, but there is no way that he would have responded to it.

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Because why would he? Why would he change the service,

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which allowed the bills to reach that high?

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Vodafone investigated and said the bill was correct,

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and the company warned they would instruct debt collectors

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if it wasn't paid.

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But even if, as they say, Farid had replied to the text -

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which he doesn't remember -

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should those instructions have also applied for a separate trip

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four months later?

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Natalie asked the communications ombudsman to investigate.

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But, after an agonising three month wait,

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the ombudsman found in favour of Vodafone.

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Oh, I felt awful. I cried on the phone. I rang them up.

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With no alternative, Natalie and Farid are now paying back

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that whopping ?3,127 bill in monthly instalments.

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We can't afford it, basically.

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We don't have that kind of money.

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When we contacted Vodafone they said that their...

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and removing the cap on data limits...

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They stressed the only way it can be lifted is by a customer

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either speaking to them directly or by replying to the text message

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by texting back the word "STOP".

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They reiterated that in both cases

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they did get back messages

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authorising that the cap on data usage be lifted.

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In Natalie's case, they said they received two messages

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on that earlier trip - one of which, whether she understood it or not,

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was agreeing to have the cap lifted,

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and the other to say she wanted to opt out

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of receiving data notification altogether.

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Vodafone then sent another message warning of high spending

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four months later during Natalie's Spanish trip

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but by the time she got it the couple were on their way home,

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and the money already spent.

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So, in both cases, those huge bills do still have to be paid.

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But the issue of the text messages

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and whether you've replied or even understood them,

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is only part of the problem.

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Both Natalie and Rhoma insist they weren't even using their phones.

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So how is it possible for your mobile to run up huge costs for data

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that you weren't even aware you were getting?

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Could it be that our smartphones can sometimes be a little TOO smart

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for their own good?

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Mobile phones are getting ever more complex and sophisticated,

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and very often what they're doing is downloading content

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or updating apps in the background without us knowing.

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Well, apparently, with a smartphone it doesn't really matter

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whether you're making a call or not,

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unless you have specifically switched off data roaming,

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you could have an app working quietly away

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in the background as usual

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and racking up a huge bill while it's doing it.

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To cut down on the number of people getting shock bills

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like Rhoma and Natalie, the European Union want to standardise the costs

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of data and phone calls across all of Europe.

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It's just a proposal at the moment,

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with some suggesting that it will come into force in 2016.

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But until then, take your phone abroad

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and you really do need to understand the costs, the risks,

0:19:280:19:32

and any warnings that you might be sent along the way!

0:19:320:19:36

I take my phone with me on holiday now but I switch it off.

0:19:360:19:39

I don't... I only switch it back on when I'm at the airport.

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Still to come...

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a holiday on four wheels

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and a company that can take you on a very long and winding road

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to know the final price you'll pay.

0:19:510:19:53

All I wanted from the start was, "This is what you owe,

0:19:530:19:56

"this is what you need to pay, this is when by."

0:19:560:19:58

But every time I got in touch, the amounts varied.

0:19:580:20:02

In the past few years,

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Turkey has rapidly become one of the most popular

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package holiday destinations.

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But like anywhere in the world, if you're not in the know,

0:20:090:20:13

you could unwittingly risk losing all of your cash.

0:20:130:20:17

So, travel expert Simon Calder has come up with a few tips

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to make sure that holidaymakers and travellers do not lose out.

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Close to three million British people go to Turkey every year,

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many of us for the beaches, of course,

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but there's also dramatic landscapes and fascinating culture.

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Plus the fine city of Istanbul, on the cusp between Europe and Asia.

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I first went to Turkey 25 years ago,

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and since then I've picked up one or two ways

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of spending rather more than you intended.

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To avoid that, Simon has some key advice

0:20:510:20:53

if you use your mobile phone while you're away.

0:20:530:20:57

Bear in mind that Turkey isn't in the European Union,

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so therefore the normal cap on call roaming charges doesn't apply.

0:21:010:21:06

Your provider can charge more or less what they want.

0:21:060:21:09

Mine charges five times as much to make a call

0:21:090:21:13

as it does from neighbouring Greece or Cyprus.

0:21:130:21:15

It's never advisable to fall foul of the law in a foreign country,

0:21:150:21:20

but in Turkey you could find yourself with a fine

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just for walking down the street, unless you follow one simple rule.

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In Britain, of course,

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you're not obliged to carry any kind of identification.

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In Turkey, though, like many other countries, you are.

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So, that means your passport.

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The only acceptable alternative is a photocopy of the business pages,

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you know, carrying that lovely photograph of you.

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If you don't have a passport or an acceptable photocopy,

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you could be fined.

0:21:490:21:50

Turkey's exotic cities are well worth leaving the beach for.

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But scammers here can use an all too familiar trick

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to get their hands on your precious lira.

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One day, I was walking through the streets of Istanbul.

0:22:000:22:03

Just in front of me, a shoe shine man.

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And he dropped his brush.

0:22:050:22:08

I said, "Excuse me, you've dropped your brush."

0:22:080:22:11

I picked it up and I gave it back to him.

0:22:110:22:13

He was so grateful.

0:22:130:22:14

He said, "I'll give you a shoe shine."

0:22:140:22:17

Luckily, I was wearing sandals.

0:22:170:22:19

That's because later I found out what the scam is.

0:22:190:22:23

You, the innocent helpful tourist, hand back the brush.

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He says, "Oh, how kind of you. I'm going to give you a shoe shine."

0:22:270:22:30

You think, "Oh, how nice, this is free." But it's not free.

0:22:300:22:33

And if you decline to pay, well, he might get very aggressive,

0:22:330:22:38

and find that he has got some very aggressive friends with him, too.

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For more information on how to avoid scams

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wherever you're going on holiday, visit our website...

0:22:450:22:47

Now, while you're soaking up the sun and enjoying the holiday

0:22:550:22:58

that you've saved all year for,

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one thing that's sure to dampen your spirits

0:23:000:23:02

is to find out that others on the same holiday

0:23:020:23:04

have paid rather less than you did.

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So, how do you avoid that?

0:23:060:23:07

Well, one of the biggest names in the business

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has come up with a solution.

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It's called a price promise.

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Unfortunately, some of you have found that that's a promise

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that's easier made than kept.

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It's one of the best-known names on the high seas - P

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First setting sail back in 1837,

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when what was then known as the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company

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won the contract to take the mail from Britain to Spain and Portugal.

0:23:290:23:34

The ships now ferry cruise passengers along the same routes,

0:23:340:23:38

but those Mediterranean waters have become rather choppy

0:23:380:23:41

for some of the passengers,

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who were encouraged to book their tickets by a price promise.

0:23:420:23:46

One that was enough to convince Linda Cox and Des Nurding

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to book their next cruise well in advance.

0:23:500:23:52

We were always told if you book early, you can save money.

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By booking early, you get a certain amount off.

0:23:580:24:01

No strangers to the ocean waves,

0:24:010:24:03

Linda and Des have now been on ten cruises.

0:24:030:24:07

And one they'd planned for last year was meant to be extra special.

0:24:070:24:11

My 70th birthday was coming up in April.

0:24:110:24:13

We booked early, and we wanted it to be a special occasion.

0:24:130:24:17

We didn't want any party. We just wanted to be away by ourselves.

0:24:170:24:22

They chose a P cruise from Southampton

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that would take them to some of the Mediterranean's finest cities,

0:24:250:24:28

including Barcelona and Florence.

0:24:280:24:30

Well, we chose the Mediterranean cruise.

0:24:310:24:33

We thought the weather would be kind to us.

0:24:330:24:35

We were having lousy weather in England

0:24:350:24:38

and I thought, "Let's go somewhere warm,"

0:24:380:24:40

so we went to the Mediterranean.

0:24:400:24:42

The couple booked eight months in advance,

0:24:420:24:44

and were confident that they'd secured the best fare

0:24:440:24:47

because of the price promise that came with it.

0:24:470:24:50

The price promise was the main reason that we booked it,

0:24:500:24:54

because with a price promise,

0:24:540:24:56

you should be sure of what's going to happen.

0:24:560:24:59

P's price promise means that if the price of the same cruise

0:24:590:25:02

and same grade of cabin drops as the departure date approaches,

0:25:020:25:06

any difference in price will be passed on -

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not in cash, but in other ways,

0:25:080:25:10

such as on-board spending money or a cabin upgrade.

0:25:100:25:14

Now, crucially for Des and Linda,

0:25:140:25:16

the promise only covers reductions

0:25:160:25:18

to what the company calls their Vantage Fares,

0:25:180:25:20

which come with added extras.

0:25:200:25:23

It still allows P to offer cheaper, more basic fares

0:25:230:25:26

nearer to sailing, which they call Getaway Fares.

0:25:260:25:29

But for Des, there was no doubt about what he'd signed up to.

0:25:290:25:34

My understanding with the price promise

0:25:340:25:37

was that if the prices came down...

0:25:370:25:40

..we were going to get an upgrade or extra on-board spend.

0:25:410:25:47

So, Des wasn't worried when, four months later,

0:25:470:25:50

he received a brochure from another travel agent advertising P cruises

0:25:500:25:54

which seemed quite clearly to show the same type of fare

0:25:540:25:57

that they'd booked, for the same cruise,

0:25:570:26:00

but at ?395 less per person.

0:26:000:26:02

A significant ?790 in total.

0:26:020:26:05

But Des assumed that the price promise would now kick in.

0:26:050:26:09

When we seen the Vantage Fares coming down in the pieces of paper

0:26:100:26:14

and the brochures that were coming through, I thought surely they -

0:26:140:26:18

you know, they'll give us that extra on-board spend or upgrade the cabin.

0:26:180:26:22

Linda and Des wrote to P to ask that the price promise be honoured,

0:26:220:26:26

sending a copy of the brochure they had received,

0:26:260:26:29

which showed - plain as anything - that the cheaper fare

0:26:290:26:31

WAS a Vantage Fare like the one they booked,

0:26:310:26:34

and therefore should get them those on-board benefits.

0:26:340:26:38

But the company disagreed,

0:26:380:26:40

and over a series of letters across six months repeatedly insisted

0:26:400:26:43

that what they'd seen advertised was a Getaway Fare,

0:26:430:26:47

and therefore wasn't covered under the Vantage Fare price promise.

0:26:470:26:50

It was no good ringing them.

0:26:500:26:52

I thought it was the best thing to send a letter.

0:26:520:26:54

We sent a few by recorded delivery, as well, to make sure they got them,

0:26:540:26:58

and we thought, "Well, they're not reading them,

0:26:580:27:01

"they're not listening! Why...why?

0:27:010:27:04

I felt so angry about it, I really did.

0:27:040:27:08

By this stage, with all the hassle

0:27:080:27:09

of trying to get the price promise honoured,

0:27:090:27:12

the gloss was starting to come off

0:27:120:27:13

what should have been an unforgettable trip.

0:27:130:27:15

But Des and Linda were still hopeful that when they arrived on the ship,

0:27:150:27:19

the confusion would be cleared up and they would be given the upgrade

0:27:190:27:23

that they felt they were owed.

0:27:230:27:25

We thought they'd still honour it we really did.

0:27:250:27:28

We thought they'd sort of say, "Oh, well, they've kept onto us enough,

0:27:280:27:32

"and we'd better do something about it."

0:27:320:27:34

And they didn't do so.

0:27:340:27:36

Although Des and Linda did go on to have a great time on the cruise,

0:27:360:27:39

they still feel they've been treated unfairly.

0:27:390:27:42

So, are they right?

0:27:420:27:44

Well, when we contacted P, it finally agreed that, yes,

0:27:440:27:47

the fares Linda and Des saw were Vantage Fares,

0:27:470:27:50

but they were...

0:27:500:27:51

..and...

0:27:530:27:54

However, P apologise for the fact

0:27:570:27:59

this was not fully or correctly explained to the couple

0:27:590:28:02

in all of the correspondence.

0:28:020:28:04

The company told us they'd be contacting the couple direct,

0:28:040:28:07

and will also be contacting the company

0:28:070:28:09

that sent Linda and Des the special offer to...

0:28:090:28:11

But Des and Linda aren't the only disgruntled customers

0:28:180:28:21

to contact us after finding that P's price promise

0:28:210:28:24

was hard to fathom.

0:28:240:28:26

Dozens of other cruise passengers have also written to us about it,

0:28:260:28:30

and although not all were comparing the correct fares,

0:28:300:28:33

it does seem that this offer is not always being understood

0:28:330:28:37

as clearly as the company might like to think that it is.

0:28:370:28:40

But confusion is set to end.

0:28:400:28:43

P tell us that from this spring,

0:28:430:28:45

they've changed their entire fare pricing structure

0:28:450:28:49

following feedback from customers.

0:28:490:28:51

I felt really angry, angry, angry, you know?

0:28:530:28:56

They'd have to give us a very good deal to make us go back to P again.

0:28:560:29:00

Yeah, definitely.

0:29:000:29:02

JULIA: Last summer, Rip Off Britain went on the road again.

0:29:110:29:14

This time we were in Liverpool, and not just with our Pop Up Shop.

0:29:140:29:18

Put your hand up if you think you could save about ?10 a year

0:29:180:29:20

by switching.

0:29:200:29:22

We were also giving out plenty of free consumer advice

0:29:220:29:24

on the streets outside.

0:29:240:29:27

And, actually, we're going to particularly talk about

0:29:270:29:30

taking your mobile phone on holiday.

0:29:300:29:32

No story is too big or too small for Rip Off Britain,

0:29:320:29:36

and over here we have our gripe corner,

0:29:360:29:39

where people can come and get things off their chest.

0:29:390:29:42

When you have a complaint against a budget airline,

0:29:430:29:47

you can only contact them by e-mail, and there's no personal contact,

0:29:470:29:51

and they just keep sending a standard e-mail back.

0:29:510:29:55

I parked my car at the airport to pick someone up for ten seconds,

0:29:550:29:58

and they sent me a bill for ?60.

0:29:580:30:01

Booking flights online is something that really gets Annoying

0:30:010:30:04

because I think when you leave the website and go back up

0:30:040:30:07

they knock up the prices because they know you've already looked online.

0:30:070:30:11

That last complaint is one we hear a lot.

0:30:110:30:14

So, is it true?

0:30:140:30:16

Stephen was another customer who called in with the same concern.

0:30:160:30:19

Me family are looking to go on holiday soon,

0:30:190:30:22

and we've heard this kind of rumour type thing,

0:30:220:30:24

that when you visit a travel website and look at something,

0:30:240:30:27

and then if you go back and revisit it,

0:30:270:30:29

that sometimes the price goes up and it is sometimes worth,

0:30:290:30:33

like, deleting your internet history,

0:30:330:30:35

er...I just wondered if there was any truth to it.

0:30:350:30:37

Good question. Well, it's a fantastic question, Stephen,

0:30:370:30:40

and I am pleased to say that the answer is no.

0:30:400:30:43

It's a great urban myth.

0:30:430:30:45

Basically, when you're looking at that flight

0:30:450:30:47

from Liverpool to Malaga,

0:30:470:30:48

there's a number of seats they want to sell at ?50,

0:30:480:30:51

a number at 70, a number at 80,

0:30:510:30:54

and all that happens is people like me or Gloria come along

0:30:540:30:58

and we actually book them at ?80,

0:30:580:31:00

and by the time you come and have a look the next day, they've gone up.

0:31:000:31:03

Does that help you in your mind? Yeah, that's great.

0:31:030:31:05

Thanks a lot. Make up your mind.

0:31:050:31:07

So, they're not watching you yet, but they might be soon.

0:31:070:31:09

You can find full details of all Simon's advice

0:31:090:31:12

from our Pop Up Shop on our website...

0:31:120:31:14

Now, as you know, last summer in the UK was one of the hottest ever,

0:31:220:31:26

and maybe it is all that sunshine that's prompted people,

0:31:260:31:29

rather than going abroad, to stay at home

0:31:290:31:31

and explore the marvellous things that we have in our own country,

0:31:310:31:34

and one of the best ways of doing that

0:31:340:31:37

is to hire a campervan or a motorhome,

0:31:370:31:39

and then you can take to the road with great freedom

0:31:390:31:42

and not have to stick to all those rules and regulations.

0:31:420:31:45

However, several people who used one particular hire company

0:31:450:31:47

have told us that their holiday didn't turn out quite as carefree

0:31:470:31:51

as they'd hoped, largely because the final amount that they had to pay

0:31:510:31:55

was nothing like the price they were originally quoted.

0:31:550:31:58

There was a time when the only options for taking a break

0:31:580:32:01

close to nature were to spend hours wrestling with tent pegs

0:32:010:32:05

or fiddling with the towbar on your caravan.

0:32:050:32:09

But then came the motorhome,

0:32:090:32:11

bringing with it the freedom of your own mini hotel on wheels.

0:32:110:32:15

And that appealed to Mick and Ann Downey

0:32:170:32:20

when they started planning their summer holiday.

0:32:200:32:22

We have been camping quite a few times,

0:32:220:32:24

but we feel like we're getting a little bit old for camping now

0:32:240:32:27

so that's why the campervan was more appealing.

0:32:270:32:30

So, Mick and Ann searched online

0:32:300:32:32

and found rental company UnbeatableHire.com -

0:32:320:32:35

not to be confused with companies with similar names -

0:32:350:32:38

and it did seem to live up to the name.

0:32:380:32:40

And it was unbeatable, price-wise.

0:32:400:32:43

I mean, at least ?100 cheaper than where else I could find.

0:32:430:32:48

The Downeys were quoted ?1,170 for just under two weeks

0:32:480:32:53

with the motorhome.

0:32:530:32:55

Happy with the price, Mick booked it, paying a deposit of ?99.

0:32:550:33:00

But five days later he was surprised to receive an e-mail

0:33:040:33:07

from UnbeatableHire telling him that he would have to pay ?100 more

0:33:070:33:12

than he was originally quoted.

0:33:120:33:13

The extra costs were down to insurance.

0:33:150:33:18

One of the questions asked was,

0:33:180:33:20

"Have you had an accident in the last three years?"

0:33:200:33:22

Well, I had. I had a little bump,

0:33:220:33:25

and they asked me, "Have you had any motoring offences?"

0:33:250:33:30

I had three points on my licence.

0:33:300:33:32

Now, the terms and conditions on the UnbeatableHire website

0:33:320:33:35

do say that "Insurance cost may vary based on driving licence history."

0:33:350:33:41

But Mick and Ann strongly believe they should have been told more

0:33:410:33:44

about that at the time of the initial quote,

0:33:440:33:46

not after they had paid the ?99 deposit.

0:33:460:33:50

It would have been nice to have been given some information

0:33:500:33:54

verbally, over the phone, about these extras and surcharges

0:33:540:33:59

before we gave them the deposit.

0:33:590:34:01

Er... They didn't.

0:34:010:34:04

It's there, if you try to look for it,

0:34:040:34:07

but you need to be a lawyer to understand it.

0:34:070:34:10

No, it just made me angry.

0:34:100:34:14

The couple decided that the extra ?100 was just too much.

0:34:140:34:18

And they assumed they could simply cancel the booking

0:34:180:34:20

and get their deposit back.

0:34:200:34:22

But with this company, that's not an option.

0:34:220:34:25

I e-mailed them several times. I phoned them several times.

0:34:250:34:30

I asked them to get back to me

0:34:300:34:32

and in the end I got what I considered a pretty rude e-mail.

0:34:320:34:36

It said, "We have cancelled the agreement."

0:34:360:34:40

Then it said, "Under no circumstances

0:34:400:34:43

"are you going to get your money back."

0:34:430:34:45

Once again the couple were directed to those terms and conditions,

0:34:450:34:49

which state that the deposit they made of ?99 is non-refundable

0:34:490:34:53

"under any circumstances".

0:34:530:34:55

So that left Mick and Ann tied into a deal for which they hadn't

0:34:570:35:01

known the final price.

0:35:010:35:02

They say if they had, they wouldn't have booked.

0:35:020:35:06

They're angry that they had no idea how much their total bill would be

0:35:060:35:10

before having to hand over a deposit that the company won't return

0:35:100:35:13

whatever the reason.

0:35:130:35:14

Feeling they had no choice, Mick and Ann cancelled the motorhome,

0:35:160:35:19

lost their deposit, and instead went camping on the Isle of Sheppey.

0:35:190:35:24

We weren't going to let it stop us. We took the tent.

0:35:240:35:27

We had a good time and so did the little dog.

0:35:270:35:29

Another UnbeatableHire customer, Jack Lowe,

0:35:310:35:34

was so determined to enjoy a road trip with his mates

0:35:340:35:37

that he put up with a price that seemed never to stop changing.

0:35:370:35:41

We're of that age now where Magaluf and Zante

0:35:410:35:43

are probably a little bit too young for us.

0:35:430:35:45

We decided to go to Scotland instead and have a lad's holiday.

0:35:450:35:49

So, that's what we did.

0:35:490:35:50

Set on booking a motorhome,

0:35:500:35:52

the group was attracted by the prices on UnbeatableHire.com,

0:35:520:35:56

who quoted them ?1,070 for their eight-day trip.

0:35:560:35:59

I thought, between four people, that's not bad at all.

0:35:590:36:02

For a week's accommodation in Edinburgh, in Scotland,

0:36:020:36:05

we're not going to get better than that.

0:36:050:36:07

Jack and his mates agreed to pay for the hire in instalments.

0:36:070:36:10

So, at the end of January last year, Jack made the first payment of ?200.

0:36:100:36:15

But no sooner had he sent the money to UnbeatableHire

0:36:150:36:18

than they sent him an e-mail saying the total cost of the rental

0:36:180:36:22

had increased by more than ?70.

0:36:220:36:25

Then, less than 90 minutes later, Jack was sent another e-mail

0:36:250:36:30

telling him the total cost was now ?1,166.40 -

0:36:300:36:34

over ?90 more than the first quote.

0:36:340:36:37

And it didn't stop there.

0:36:390:36:41

Over the next six months, with no explanation,

0:36:410:36:43

the price UnbeatableHire wanted Jack and his friends to pay

0:36:430:36:47

went up and down a total of seven times,

0:36:470:36:50

at one point topping more than ?2,600.

0:36:500:36:53

All I wanted from the start was "This is what you owe.

0:36:530:36:56

"This is what you need to pay. This is when by."

0:36:560:36:59

But every time I got in touch, the amounts varied.

0:36:590:37:01

When Jack complained, he was told the cost would now be ?1,178.40

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and that one more payment would settle the account.

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So, he agreed that they could take this final amount

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from his debit card.

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But to his horror, the company took ?120 more than he was expecting -

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again, with no explanation.

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I was unable to get in touch with them via phone.

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I tried e-mailing many, many times - no replies.

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There was also... I think I spoke to four ladies, in total,

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all with the same e-mail address

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but you couldn't get hold of them should you try.

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And that's when Jack realised that cancelling wasn't an option.

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UnbeatableHire doesn't offer refunds

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within 42 days of collecting a motorhome.

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So, if Jack tried to cancel,

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he and his friends would lose everything they had paid so far.

0:37:500:37:54

I thought I'd have a look through their terms and conditions.

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All fees are forfeit, so I'd have lost all the money already paid,

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just by cancelling.

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So, Jack and his friends decided to swallow the extra cost

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and prepare for their holiday.

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But even that wasn't the end of it.

0:38:060:38:08

With less than a week to go, UnbeatableHire told Jack

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the group owed yet more money - this time, ?164.

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Again, they felt they had no choice but to pay it,

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which rather took the shine off their Highland adventure.

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Well, it was definitely a fantastic holiday,

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there's no question about that,

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but it was probably not the best of experiences.

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I'll definitely think twice about hiring - well,

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most things again, let alone a campervan.

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Since we met Jack, we've spoken to half a dozen more customers

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of UnbeatableHire.com with similar stories -

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either telling us they had more money taken out of their accounts

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than they'd authorised,

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or that prices had increased after they'd paid their deposit.

0:38:460:38:50

So how does the company explain that?

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When we contacted them,

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they admitted that in Jack's case they made a mistake.

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They've explained he was incorrectly given a discount

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on his insurance surcharge,

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but as their systems weren't properly updated

0:39:020:39:05

to reflect that, they...

0:39:050:39:06

They've apologised, refunding both their deposit and the difference

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between the amount first quoted and the figure Jack eventually paid.

0:39:150:39:19

As for Mick And Ann's case,

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the company stress their terms, conditions and surcharges

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are clearly explained on their website, so...

0:39:240:39:27

..particularly as...

0:39:330:39:34

They say they suggested Mick should complete an online form

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so they could see if his surcharge could be reduced

0:39:420:39:45

but he didn't respond.

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Nonetheless, they have now refunded his ?99 deposit

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as a gesture of goodwill.

0:39:510:39:52

The company went on to say that a non-refundable deposit

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is common with motorhome hire companies.

0:39:570:39:59

And they are confident that issues like these...

0:39:590:40:01

..thanks to a new...

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But is it right that a company can sign you up

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with a non-refundable deposit before you've agreed a final price?

0:40:100:40:15

The guidance is clear

0:40:150:40:16

in the office of fair trading's unfair contract terms, rules,

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that customers should be given penalty free exit from a contract

0:40:200:40:24

if the supplier has put the price up materially,

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and it would seem that that's what's happened in this case

0:40:270:40:30

with UnbeatableHire. The customers haven't been given the chance

0:40:300:40:33

to get out without paying that penalty.

0:40:330:40:35

So, although Mick finally got his ?99 refunded,

0:40:350:40:39

he feels he shouldn't have had to fight quite so hard

0:40:390:40:42

to get his money back in the first place.

0:40:420:40:45

We thought we'd been treated really badly by UnbeatableHire,

0:40:450:40:49

but there's nothing I can do about it.

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Here at Rip Off Britain we're always ready to investigate your stories,

0:40:580:41:03

and not just about holidays.

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Confused over your bills,

0:41:050:41:07

or just trying to wade through never-ending small print?

0:41:070:41:10

When they sit you down to sign up for things,

0:41:100:41:12

they don't really give you the chance or the time

0:41:120:41:15

to read through all of that small print.

0:41:150:41:18

These people have ripped me off, well and truly.

0:41:180:41:23

You can write to us at...

0:41:230:41:25

Or send us an e-mail to...

0:41:310:41:33

The team here is ready and waiting to look into your stories,

0:41:360:41:40

so please do get in touch.

0:41:400:41:41

Well, as you know, holidays do not come cheap,

0:41:430:41:46

and when you've worked out just how far your budget will stretch

0:41:460:41:49

and you find a holiday that you really approve of and like,

0:41:490:41:52

the last thing you want to discover are all those unexpected costs,

0:41:520:41:55

particularly if the company you chose

0:41:550:41:57

really was the best value in the first place.

0:41:570:41:59

Exactly, so when you are booking your holiday

0:41:590:42:02

it really is worth taking the time to ask questions

0:42:020:42:05

and make absolutely sure that the amount of money you are being quoted

0:42:050:42:08

for your holiday is absolutely the final price

0:42:080:42:11

that you are going to have to pay,

0:42:110:42:13

and until you are happy with the answers,

0:42:130:42:15

do not part with a penny of your money.

0:42:150:42:17

That's probably the best advice of all.

0:42:170:42:19

Don't part with your money

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until you're absolutely sure you've got what you want.

0:42:210:42:23

I'm afraid that's where we've got to leave it for today.

0:42:230:42:26

But remember we're always here to deal with your gripes,

0:42:260:42:28

whether it's at home or abroad.

0:42:280:42:30

And you can contact us on...

0:42:300:42:31

So, until the next time,

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can I just say, if you are having some holidays,

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we hope that they go really smoothly.

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And that you get as much sunshine as we've had here in Tenerife!

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Bye-bye. You're coming into the sea. You come with me. Bye! Yes!

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