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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
holidays and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters! | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
We save hard all year. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
We look forward to a holiday with our family. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
We felt absolutely desperate. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
This was never a three-star hotel. I wouldn't give it two. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake or | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
indeed a catch in the small print, we'll find out why you're | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Your stories. Your money. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Hello and thanks for joining us on Rip Off Britain - where today we're | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
investigating more of your holiday stories. And where better to have | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
based ourselves than the very sunny island of Gran Canaria to do it. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
You've got that in one, but as ever, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
the cases we'll be looking into have come straight from you. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
And though we've a real mixed bag of travel disasters coming up, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
most of them involve some sort of commonplace situation that, let's | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
face it, any one of us could very easily find ourselves in - whether | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
that's worrying about the security of your luggage, or hiring a car. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
I've certainly be caught out by that one. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Whatever the circumstance, in each case we'll be looking | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
at a decision has been made that's had some very costly repercussions. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
Sometimes devastatingly so. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Which is why we really do hope that when you hear what went | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
wrong for these people, you will have a much better idea of how to | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
make sure exactly the same thing doesn't happen to you. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
'Coming up, an emergency abroad and why a big-name insurer | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
'refused to pay the £24,000 bill that followed.' | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
I hope that these people that sit in these insurance offices | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
realise it's not just a number. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
It's actually a human being they're talking to. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
'And a hard lesson in security | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
'that left this couple's holiday in tatters.' | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
Other people...it's a warning to them. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Don't leave valuables in a locked suitcase thinking it's locked | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
and nobody can get into it. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
Next, a company that we've featured on this programme before. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
They sold the dream of an investment opportunity in the sun. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:10 | |
Retirement properties that held the promise of big returns | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
by renting them out to other holiday-makers. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
It all seemed very simple, unfortunately for many people who | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
have handed over their life savings, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
it's turned out to be anything but. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Many of the properties haven't even been built. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
And so instead of being able to look forward to a retirement | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
with a regular income, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
they are facing a very uncertain future indeed. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
In 2012, Rip Off Britain told the story of James | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and Christine McBride and their son Greg. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
That was five years after they'd invested £75,000 | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
in an off-plan cabana on the Caribbean Island of St Vincent | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
in the Grenadines, through a company called Harlequin Property. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
-ON COMPUTER: -Welcome to Harlequin Property. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
The McBrides had bought the property at what they'd been | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
told was half its market value | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
and were assured that it would be ready for them to rent out | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
less than two years after they signed the contract. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
But then the couple heard the build had been delayed. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
I contacted Harlequin and asked them, "What's the situation? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
"I've heard from a third party that the resort has been delayed | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
"and you haven't informed us and is that the case?" | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
To which they responded and they said, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
"Yeah, actually it was going to be delayed by about two years." | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
In fact, after three and a half years, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
the resort still hadn't been completed. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
And with James and Christine relying on the rental income to fund their | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
retirement, that had a disastrous impact on the family finances. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
It left us in the position of having virtually nothing left in the bank. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
And having to rely on others to continue to live, if you like. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Not a good position to be in. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Not having an income from it, and the worry about where all | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
the money had gone, it all started to kick in. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
I was frightened, I suppose, that we had invested in something | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
that was going to go down the drain. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Well, it was at that point, having abandoned hope of ever | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
seeing their property completed, that the family came to us. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
By now, they just wanted their deposit back | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
and when we intervened, they got it. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Harlequin returned their £75,000 in full. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
It was a great result for the McBrides. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
But we've heard from other families who bitterly regret | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
entrusting their life savings to Harlequin Property. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I've lost more sleep over Harlequin than anything else in my life... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
and the fear of never seeing our money again and what the future | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
would hold for us without that money... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
doesn't really bear thinking about. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Joy and Reg Wickham's dealings with Harlequin began in 2010. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
They too were hoping to fund their retirement with a rental | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
property in the sun. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
We had this lump sum of £40,000. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
We didn't want to put our money | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
into something that's going to take 10-15 years | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
to start showing a return. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
We wanted something that would show a return as soon as possible | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
to sort of coincide with my retirement. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
After hearing about Harlequin from a financial advisor, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
the couple visited the company's HQ to learn more | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
and decided to invest. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
We put down the initial deposit of 40,500 | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
against the purchase price of 135,000. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
That was for an off-plan studio apartment | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
on the Two Rivers Resort in the Dominican Republic. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
But the following year, when the couple were given | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
an opportunity to visit another Harlequin site that was being | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
built in St Lucia, alarm bells began to ring. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Three-quarters of the site was still in the process of being built. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
I was quite concerned that, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
yeah, this one's nowhere near finished | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and our investment hasn't even been started on, let alone finished. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Their concerns turned out to be well founded. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Completion on their resort was delayed too. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
We were told, "No, it's like a year behind | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
"and it's going to be 2013." | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
We were a little bit choked because we wanted something to give us | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
a return as soon as possible. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
By the time 2013 arrived, Reg had been diagnosed with cancer | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
and both he and Joy were no longer working. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
With all their savings tied up with Harlequin, they were desperate | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
for cash and asked the company to give them their deposit back. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
But with no money forthcoming, they pinned their hopes on a clause | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
in the contract, which stated that if the building was not completed | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
by 30th June 2014 then the couple would be entitled to a refund. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:46 | |
So that's when we thought we should be entitled for them | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
to definitely give us our money back. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
So the couple had to bide their time, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
counting down the days to when they expected to be refunded. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
But to raise cash, they felt they had no choice | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
but to sell their much-loved home in the UK and downsize. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
That was our dream home. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
We still have a nice home, but I don't feel at home here. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
You all right? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
As the refund deadline approached, Joy and Reg received a call | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
from the boss of Harlequin Property, David Ames, who told them | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
that the company was restructuring | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
and that their best chance of recovering their money | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
was to move it into what he called an investment trust. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
But when they examined the small print, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
they saw a condition of doing that would be agreeing to give up | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
the right to take any legal action against Harlequin. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
We didn't want to join the Trust because the Trust wanted to tie | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
our hands behind our back and say that we would no way bad-mouth | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
Harlequin or ask for our money back or anything else. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
And they said that if you joined the Trust, you may get something | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
sorted out in five years' time. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
But I told him on the phone that | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
I might not be here in five years' time. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
So the couple rejected the offer, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
believing the breach of contract date represented their best hope | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
of getting their money back. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
But when that date finally arrived, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
the couple was told that the company restructuring was ongoing | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
and it wouldn't be until mid-2015 | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
that its financial position would be any clearer. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
For Reg and Joy, that was too long to wait. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
We need our money back so that we can generate an income | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
with that money to help us as we approach retirement. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
But they fear the prospect of that happening is further away than ever. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Harlequin Property has gone into liquidation | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
and the couple are now dealing with another arm of the business, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Harlequin Hotels and Resorts. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
The company told us it has "sincere regret" for Reg | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
and Joy's circumstances, but it's "working hard to restructure | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
"the business and realise the goals of all types of investor." | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
It added that "cancellation is simply not possible" while that | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
restructuring goes on, because of the "impact on cash flow." | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
The company said delays had been caused by a "perfect storm" | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
of difficulties in which it includes "the global recession, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
"contractor fraud, defamatory campaigns | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
"and new FCA regulations," | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
but insists that it's now making | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
"significant progress" and "an end is in sight." | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
But it says key to that is the Trust recommended to Reg and Joy the | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
"workings and benefits" of which it insists they have "misunderstood." | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
For example, Harlequin says clauses restricting | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
investors from taking legal action are there to protect its funding | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
and allow "a better chance of financial success." | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
If the Trust is successful, the company hopes it can | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
"satisfy all investor demands" even if that means, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
as in this case, letting people cancel. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
But in the meantime, it's not just the people we've spoken to | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
who are interested in Harlequin's business affairs. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
In 2013, the Serious Fraud Office and Essex police began | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
investigating complaints relating to the Harlequin Group. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
An investigation that they've told us is still ongoing. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
We asked international property lawyer Stefano Lucatello about | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Reg and Joy's case and he told us it's an all too familiar a story. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
Buying off-plan is a risk in any country | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
because you're buying a dream. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
You are buying from a developer who has put a set of either CGIs, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
computer generated images, in front of you or a set of paper plans. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
You must do your homework, you must check the developer, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
check the agent, check where the development is going to happen | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and check the track record of the developer. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
And only when you are 110% certain of what's going to happen, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
move forward. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
But if what will happen next for Reg, Joy and all the other investors | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
who worry they're left out of pocket is unclear, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
one thing is certain - they all rue the day they ever got involved | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
with Harlequin Property. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
We need that money as a cushion to see us | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
through the years we've got left. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
I just think what a difference our lives would be | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
if we'd never put the money into Harlequin in the first place. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Next, falling seriously ill on holiday is a nightmare | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
that you hope will never ever happen to you. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I hope it never happens to you. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
But, if the worst does happen, the last thing you'd want is to | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
be saddled with the cost of paying for any | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
kind of treatment, which is why most of us do the sensible thing | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
and buy travel insurance to cover just that. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
However, as our next couple found out, if, for whatever reason, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
your travel insurance company decides it doesn't want to help | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
then I'm afraid the nightmare can soon descend to a whole new level. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
One reason we like to go on holiday is to give our bodies a little TLC, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
hoping a week or two in the sun can pep us up | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
and make us feel better. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
And that was exactly what Liz and Derek Armit had in mind | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
when they set off to Majorca in August last year. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
We've been abroad every year, sometimes twice, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
three times a year, we just love it. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
We just love going on holiday. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
Liz is one of five million people in the UK who suffers with asthma | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
but not so severely that it stops her doing the things she likes. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
I've had asthma since I was a child. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Never really caused me a lot of problems. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
But just before she was due to leave for Majorca, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Liz felt under the weather so went to her GP | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
who prescribed two of her usual inhalers. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Just for her peace of mind more than anything, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Elizabeth went to the doctor's on the Friday, and he gave a thorough check | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
over, and said that she was fine, that it would probably do her good. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
And the final task the couple completed before they left | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
was buying their travel insurance. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
We actually got the woman from the Post Office to help us | 0:13:01 | 0:13:07 | |
fill it in, and we got her to check what we had filled in. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
-So we thought we had covered everything. -Covered everything, yeah. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Liz and Derek boarded their plane and jetted off to the sun. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
But five days into their holiday, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Liz began to feel short of breath and collapsed. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
As we were walking from where the bar was, through the hotel, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
she says to me, "Derek," she says, "I can't breathe." | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I knew just by looking at her something serious was wrong because | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
she literally, she just started turning blue in front of me. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I started to do mouth to mouth, and CPR and I had to | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
shout on the gentleman behind the reception counter, to phone for | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
an ambulance and a doctor. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:55 | |
Because I knew that she was getting worse. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
That's when you start thinking | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
there's something seriously wrong here. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
An ambulance was called, and not too soon, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
because Liz had stopped breathing | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
and had to be resuscitated by paramedics. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
In the midst of the emergency, a doctor took Derek to one side | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
with a request he wasn't quite expecting. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
The doctor sat me down on the chair, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
and I had to hand over 120 euros in cash, before he would let me go. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:25 | |
It turned out that the ambulance was taking them | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
to a private hospital for which he would have to pay. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
But in a panic and not wanting to cause any delay to Liz's | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
treatment, Derek rushed back to their hotel to grab some cash. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
The doctor advised me to go and get any medication that Liz was taking, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and then, like, so the insurance documentation and her passport, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
which I did. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
I got to the hospital and I got sat down. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Obviously, I was very upset and the receptionist took | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
all my paperwork and one of the doctors came out and said, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
"Do you have your wife's medication?" And I just handed the bag over, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
not thinking what was in it, you know, I just handed the bag over. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
Liz had suffered a respiratory spasm. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
And as the doctors continued their treatment, a series of further | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
episodes put her into a coma. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
There's nothing worse than seeing your wife lying there. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
And she had the tube down her throat, which was keeping her alive. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
But while Derek was with his wife in the Intensive Care Unit, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
he received a phone call from his insurance company, AXA. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
She says, "Just to let you know we don't think your wife | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
"was entirely honest when she was filling in the policy." | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
AXA insisted that in the bag Derek had collected there'd been | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
three inhalers, rather than the maximum of two that anyone | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
with asthma is allowed to use under their terms and conditions. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
And that invalidated the policy. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
I've never been on three inhalers. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
I've only ever been on two inhalers at any given time. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
But I'm afraid AXA wasn't having any of Derek's protests | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
and after more than two weeks of treatment in the private hospital, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
the company confirmed that it would not be paying the bill. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
What's actually worse is the fact that... | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
you feel so helpless. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
When the person that you love is lying there, you don't | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
know how you're going to get her home, you don't speak the language... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
..and for somebody to phone you | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
and throw this on top of what you went through, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
I wouldn't wish this on anybody. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Derek just couldn't understand where the mysterious third inhaler | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
had come from. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
And it was only when he spoke to their daughter Denise | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
that the explanation became clear. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Denise too is asthmatic | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and is prescribed a different type of inhaler from her mum. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
And she had inadvertently left one in the family's travel bag. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
What usually happens is when we go on holiday, we've got | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
the one bag that we use, it's got the usual paracetamol, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
bite cream, and antiseptic creams, and what usually happens is | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
I put my inhaler in the same bag. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
I just handed the whole bag over at the time, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
not thinking what was in it. It's the same when she's back here. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
She carries an EpiPen for our grandson, but it's not hers. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
I had explained this to AXA that I had left it in there, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and there was no amount of persuasion | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
to convince them any differently. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
It seemed the medical team in Majorca had incorrectly | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
assumed that the third inhaler belonged to Liz | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
and had passed that information on to AXA. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
By now, Liz was starting to recover and after 16 days of private | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
health care, was ready to be discharged from hospital. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
But because AXA had refused their claim, along with the discharge | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
notice, came a hospital bill. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
And it was a big one. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
She had gave me a total bill, every single thing was itemised on it, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
and the cost was at the side of every medication, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
everything single thing that was done | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
and at the bottom was a total and it was 30,000 euros | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
or something like that. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
The bill, the equivalent of just over £24,000, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
had a 30-day deadline to pay. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Derek desperately tried to convince AXA of the truth | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
of what had really happened. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
But the insurance giant refused to change its position. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
There's no way I've got 30,000 euros that I can pay this bill | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
and it's just such a worry. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
We don't know what the outcome is going to be. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
We don't know what the next step is. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
She's supposed to remain calm to get the full recovery we're | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
looking for and how can you do that with a 30,000 euro bill | 0:18:45 | 0:18:51 | |
hanging over your head? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
It's just been horrendous. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
But when we contacted AXA about this case, the company replied | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
with some very good news indeed. The insurer told us | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
it was sorry to hear of the problems experienced by Liz | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
with her claim and "would like to take this opportunity to | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
"apologise for any distress or inconvenience caused." | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
After a full review of the claim, it has now been settled in full. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
They have also paid 2,000 euros to Derek to cover his costs, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
as well as an extra £500. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
And although Liz and Derek are delighted | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
the prospect of having to pay that 30,000 euro bill has now gone away, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
they're still trying to sort | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
through the mix of emotions caused by everything they've been through. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
I hope that these people that sit in these insurance offices realise | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
it's not just a number, it's actually a human being they're talking to. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
I can't fault the hospital cos without them, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
I didn't think I was even going to get her home. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Still to come here on Rip Off Britain, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
the hire car that cost this couple nearly three times | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
as much as they'd expected. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
That's when I started getting a little bit angry | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
cos it was a lot of money. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
People can't afford to spend that sort of money and just lose it. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
Once again, we've opened up our pop-up shop | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and this year we've come to one of the biggest shopping centres | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
-in the West Midlands. -We've brought along the entire team, to make sure | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
we give you the tools and the information you need to ensure | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
that the next time you hand over your cash, you're not ripped off. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Kenneth Palmer came to see Simon Calder with a cautionary tale. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
He and his wife were looking forward to celebrating | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
their granddaughter's wedding in Australia. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
But when they set off in their car for the airport, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
they quickly found themselves in quite a jam. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
The journey would take normally take one hour at most. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
We allowed four hours, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
being anxious, got on North Circular Road and the traffic just stopped. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
-How many hours were you stuck in the motorway for? -Three hours. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Three hours. Did you ring the airline? Or anybody? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
No, had we been regular travellers, things like this | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
people say afterwards, "Oh, you should have phoned the airline | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
"or the airport or done this or done that," | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
but, when you're stuck in traffic, you're really... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
-Helpless. -Yeah. -Nothing you can do about it. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
And when you got to the desk what did they say | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-or what did you say to them? Just like, "Tough?" -They said, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
"You must go back to the agency." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
We phoned first thing next day, and the agency said, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
"Oh, the tickets have been voided." | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Nothing at all. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
See, I thought... | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
I realised I'd missed the outward bound flight, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
but we thought you could use the return flight, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
so they just said, "You've got to pay again!" | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Is that correct? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
That is absolutely standard. There are very few airlines | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
which say, "You missed you're flight, we're really sorry. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-"Of course, your return is still valid." -Yeah. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
And they'll even say, "Ken, sorry you missed your plane. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
"Give us £40, £50, £60, we'll put you on the very next one | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
"and of course you'll be able to fly back." That's the exception, though. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Other airlines simply say, "Check in deadline is one hour, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
"you turn up with 59 minutes to go, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
"not only are we going to cancel your flight, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
"we're going to cancel the entire reservation | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-"and there's nothing you can do about that." -I'm shocked. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-Not like I just didn't turn up. -Oh, well. Unfortunately it is a no-show | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
-in the airlines' book. I'm not justifying... -That's not fair! | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Well! That's the conditions that Ken's signed up to. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
I'm really sorry. But hopefully people will learn from your... | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I'd have been crying, Ken, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:30 | |
but anyway, thank you so much for sharing that awful situation. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Thanks for the time, anyway. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
We've heard plenty of similar stories from people who, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
for whatever reason, didn't fly on | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
the original outward flight they'd booked. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
So, if you don't get on that flight, you will find that any | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
remaining flights on that booking, including the one home, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
could have been cancelled as well. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
It's a very useful piece of information | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
and you can find lots more travel advice on a factsheet | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
that Simon's put together on our website... | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
Next, keeping your possessions safe while you're away is always | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
going to be near the top of anyone's priorities. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
So a good strong case that you can lock might seem a wise investment. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
But the truth is, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
you can't guarantee that any bag will withstand a thief | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
who is really determined to get their hands on what's inside. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Margaret and Brian Poole from Eastleigh near Southampton | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
consider themselves to be seasoned travellers. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
We've been travelling abroad for about 45 years, I should say. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-Yeah. Yeah. We've done many places. Been many places. -Yeah. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
Been to many places over...over that period of time. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
We probably travel abroad two or three times a year. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Until recently, each time they travelled they thought | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
they'd done enough to keep their belongings safe. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
I think we're very...security conscious. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
We've...we've always taken two hard suitcases with us. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
We always leave them in the room, locked. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
And as far as Margaret and Brian were concerned, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
their hard suitcases were the best ones for the job. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
It's as solid as a rock. Two good locks. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
Whoever would attempt to get into a case like this? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
And what happened to us, you just wouldn't expect. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
But it was during a trip to the Canary Islands in March 2014 | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
that the couple realised their cases were not as secure | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
as they had hoped. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
So, we booked a holiday for a week in Fuerteventura. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
We didn't want any worries, just... | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
just get on the plane, go there. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
The hotel they were staying in | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
was the four-star Barcelo Fuerteventura Thalasso Spa. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
We've travelled for so many years. We've always used a suitcase. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
We've always locked it, taken the key with us. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
It didn't even enter our mind about not being safe. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
In fact, Margaret and Brian were so confident that their cases | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
were robust enough to keep secure anything inside | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
that they didn't feel the need to use the hotel safe in their room. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
Instead, they made sure their valuables were kept | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
locked in their luggage. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
And that included two bracelets of such financial | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
and sentimental value that they'd brought them | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
on a holiday rather than leave them unprotected back in the UK. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
I thought instead of leaving them here, leave them at home, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I'll take them with me | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
because I thought, "They'll be safer if I take them with me | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
"than if I leave them in the house." | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
We did what we normally do on holiday. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
We locked the jewellery in the case along with... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
..money. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
The reason we locked them in the case is because when we first | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
started to travel there were no things like safes in the room. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
All went well until the third day of their holiday. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
When we returned, we didn't notice anything amiss. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Margaret said to me after we'd been in the room for five minutes or so, | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
"Why have you left your beach towel on the side near the sink?" | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
And I said, "Well..." You know, "..I haven't. I haven't." | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
Then I turned to the case and I looked at the case | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
and I could see two... | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
two notch things where the case had been jimmied open. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Realising that their suitcase had been tampered with, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Brian looked inside to see if anything was missing. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
We had credit cards in there and money. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
The credit cards had been left, but the money had been taken. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
I had my two jewellery boxes. I looked in there, opened those | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
and saw that the jewellery had gone. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Brian, I think, went and phoned the hotel manager, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
told them what had happened | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
and this guy said he would come down. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
I went to our friends who were next door, told them what had happened. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
SHE CRIES | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
It's just... It's just bringing it all back. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Brian and Margaret reported the theft to the local police, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
who sent detectives to investigate. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
But with no sign of forced entry | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
and the hotel claiming that the electronic door key records showed | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
that nobody had entered the room other than Brian and Margaret, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
there was little that could be done to help. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
There was absolutely no sign of forced entry whatsoever. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
Which was even more surprising. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
The hotel, of course, claimed that it was me. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I mean, how do you explain | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
someone trying to put the blame on you when you know full well it's... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
it's not your fault. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
You've done nothing wrong. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
Made me angry that they would blame us | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
for something that we had the loss, not them. Ha! | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
What's more, because there was a safe provided in the room which the | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
couple hadn't used, the hotel said it couldn't take any | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
responsibility for Brian and Margaret's losses. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
The couple have since claimed on their travel | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
insurance for some of their missing items, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
but they don't feel the pay-out has covered all that they lost. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
I knew in claiming that we wouldn't be getting a great | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
deal for the loss we'd suffered. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Went through the process | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
and at the end of the day, they awarded us £250. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
We'd lost jewellery, money, suitcase and a lot of stress. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
When we contacted the management at the hotel where all this happened, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
they told us that though dismayed and sorry | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
about the couple's experience, they "firmly reject" Margaret | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
and Brian's version of events, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
saying an internal investigation found no doors were forced, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
no-one else entered the room with an electronic key, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
and video cameras haven't revealed "anything that could help." | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
They wouldn't comment further because the matter | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
"is still being investigated by Spanish police authorities," | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
but reiterated that even in a hotel like theirs, considered to be safe, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:04 | |
they would "strongly recommend" using the safe in each bedroom. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
But Margaret and Brian have learned a hard lesson | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
that they're keen to share. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
Other people...it's a warning to them. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Don't leave valuables in a locked suitcase thinking it's locked | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
and nobody can get into it because they can. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
If they can get into your room, they can get into your suitcase. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Our travel expert, Simon Calder, has flown, sailed, driven | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
and indeed cycled to thousands of destinations all around the world. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
So we asked him to let us in on some of his top secrets, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
this time, the city of Prague. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
In the early 1990s, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Prague was reborn as the capital of the Czech Republic | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and the tourists flocked in. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Many are drawn by its extraordinary cultural heritage. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
It was here that Mozart's operas were first performed | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
over 200 years ago. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
For anyone who likes to combine culture with travel, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Prague is paradise, and it's much cheaper than most European capitals. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
To enjoy opera or classical music is so much more affordable than London. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:22 | |
You can pick up a ticket for a top-notch concert for under £6, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
so no need to deal with those touts in 17th century costumes | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
who may overcharge you or even give you a fake ticket. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
And it's not only the ticket sellers you need to be | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
wary of on the streets of the city. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Your papers, please? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Beware of the Czech fake check. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Two bogus policemen will show you some fake ID, they'll then | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
demand to see your passport, they'll rifle through it, and hand it | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
back to you, then they say they're looking for counterfeit | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
currency and they need to see your wallet. Again you hand it over, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
they go through it, and hand it back with apologies. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Only later do you realise | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
that they've removed all the high-value notes by sleight of hand. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
The Foreign Office specifically warns that no police officer | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
in the Czech Republic is allowed to ask to see your money. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
Let's face it, for an awful lot of people the real | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
pleasure of going on holiday means that you're able to chill out | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
and relax by the pool or on the beach, but you know there | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
are just as many people who would much prefer to go out and explore. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
And one of the simplest ways of doing that is very often just | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
to hire a car and then for some, just driving around can become | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
a major part of the holiday's experience. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
But you know, car hire, particularly | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
when you hire overseas, is a subject that you write to us | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
an awful lot. Not least because all too often your rental comes | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
with a whole bewildering array of extra charges, waivers, taxes, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
and guarantees all the things that bump up the basic price far beyond | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
the bargain you might have thought you were getting in the first place. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
And that could mean, just like the couple in our next film, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
that you are in for a very nasty surprise when you get the bill. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
There are few things that John | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
and Teresa Bloxham love more than the freedom of the open road. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
And like most fans of an epic road trip, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
they reckon there's only one place to go for that - America. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
You can drive along. You don't have to stick to a particular itinerary. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
You've got the freedom just to choose where you go, what you do. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
John and Teresa decided to mark their retirement with a road trip | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
to end all road trips. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
They spent three years planning the 15,000-mile, three-month | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
driving holiday that would see them zigzag across America. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
We have actually been to America quite a few times before. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
We had decided that instead of looking to live over there, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
we would just go and have a massive holiday | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
and travel as much as we could. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
Such a big trip was going to cost, but when the airline | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
with whom they booked their flights offered them what seemed like | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
a great deal on a hire car, John and Teresa were quick to snap it up. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
It was with one of the leading names in the hire car business, Avis. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
And with the quote clearly stating an estimated total of just | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
over 2,500 for the full three months rental, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
it was within budget too. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
We'd been planning it for so long that we couldn't wait to go, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
it was nerve-racking to know we weren't going to be | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
home for three months, but it was the adventure of just going off, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:44 | |
just doing what we wanted to do. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
John and Teresa finally landed in Orlando to begin | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
their trip of a lifetime in June 2013. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
We found the desk for the car hire, went straight there. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
The guy in the check-in desk couldn't have been more helpful | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
if he tried, he was very friendly. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
He was asking us where we were going, we told him | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and he said, "We'll try and find you a low mileage car," | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
which I thought was quite good of him. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
But it was at this point, as often happens when picking up a car | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
after a long flight, that things got a little bit confusing. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
John and Teresa say the Avis rep offered them | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
an upgrade on their car, which they understood would only cost them | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
a few hundred dollars more than their original quote. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
So they accepted. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
But when the rep came back with the paperwork John noticed | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
the figures seemed to be suggesting a different amount entirely. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
When I was signing it I noticed a monthly | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
hire for each of the months we were going to be away. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
The couple was now being asked to sign a separate form | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
for each of the three months they were booking and it seemed | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
that rather than paying around 2,800 for the full three months | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
they were actually being asked to pay | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
about that amount for each month. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
I queried with him the fact that the paperwork looked like we were | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
going to be charged that amount every month. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
And I asked him about that and he said, "No, that is the total cost, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
"but we have to show that cost on each of the forms, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
"but that is the one price." | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
Reassured by what he was hearing, John signed the documents | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
and he and Teresa started their road trip. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Holiday was going great, we moved on from Pensacola, | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
went down to New Orleans into Texas, El Paso, Albuquerque | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
and then we hit Route 66 down heading west. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
A month into their trip, a charge for 2,842 from Avis | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
appeared on their credit card. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
John and Teresa assumed that meant that the full payment for all | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
three months rental in one go. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
We were expecting at some point to pay for the car and the fact | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
that they'd taken it then rather than later really wasn't an issue. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
Over the next month, the couple covered another 3,800 miles. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
They passed through nine states and sailed down the Mississippi | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
on a paddle steamer. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
Their trip couldn't have been going better until John noticed | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
that Avis had taken a further 2,694 from their credit card. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
I thought it was just a mistake and we'd be able to rectify it | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
when we spoke to Avis. So, I thought, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
"It will only be a few weeks before we're back in Orlando | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
"and I'll go back to the desk and sort it out with them then." | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
In the final month of their trip, the couple covered another | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
2,000 miles, passed through a further eight states | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
before returning to Florida | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
where they hoped to finally sort out the car hire charges. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
When we got back to Florida, we went to the Avis desk at Orlando | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
International spoke to the guy there, explained that we'd been | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
charged twice, he dug the paperwork out and said, "No, that's right." | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
I then explained what we agreed when I signed the forms originally, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
what we'd been told then and he shrugged his shoulders | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
and said, "Well, I think you've got a good deal." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
As instead of 2,800 it was going to cost us about 8,500 | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
I couldn't say I agreed with him cos we could have bought a car for that. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
It wasn't clear where or how such a fundamental | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
misunderstanding about the price had arisen. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
But instead of arguing whilst still in Orlando, John | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
and Teresa decided to pick it up with Avis when they got home. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
We were determined that we weren't going to let that spoil | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
what we'd already had. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
We felt sure that as soon as we got back | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
we had paperwork to say how much that should have cost us. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
Back home, John e-mailed the Avis UK head office | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
and explained the situation. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
They said they would contact the American branch | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
and get back to us within a couple of weeks and they were quite | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
helpful, they were quite friendly and sounded quite sympathetic. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Avis did look into the case but when they came back to John | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and Teresa it wasn't the news the couple wanted to hear. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
It seemed that the upgrade the couple had accepted in Orlando | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
had effectively ripped up their original booking | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
and the three monthly charges they'd paid instead were in fact correct. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
The company had said the details had all been laid | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
out in the paperwork and because John and Teresa had signed | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
the contract accepting them, there was nothing now that could be done. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
Their attitude was that we'd signed the contracts | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
and as far as they were concerned that stood, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
they weren't going to do anything about it. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
That's when I started getting a little bit angry | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
cos it was a lot of money. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
People can't afford to spend that sort of money and just lose it. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
If they'd have told us at the beginning | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
that it was going to be 8,500, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
we would have said, "Thanks very much but no, thank you," | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
and gone somewhere else. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
We contacted Avis UK about this case. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
They wouldn't discuss it with us directly | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
because of "customer privacy," but said they had got in touch | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
with John and Teresa directly "to reach a resolution | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
"concerning their rental." | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
John told us Avis has made them | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
an offer over the phone of just over £1,600. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
When they told AVIS they were planning to reject it, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
AVIS said this would be its final offer. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
But John says he is still unsure whether to accept. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
If ever you've hired a car when you've been abroad, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
then perhaps you, too, have been baffled by all facts | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
and the figures on the paperwork that gets thrust in front of you. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Maybe you've just come off a long flight, you're a bit tired, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
you're disorientated or there's a great long queue in front of you | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and really all you want to do is just get out of the airport | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
and get on your way. Is it any wonder that we receive | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
as many complaints about what you get charged for car hire as we do? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
It's possible, of course, that you didn't quite understand the | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
terms of what you were signing for. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
Or maybe you were persuaded to take on extra insurance, an upgrade, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
things that bump up the price that you're going to pay | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
which means that you end up with a bill which is an awful lot more | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
than you originally expected. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:04 | |
That's why the body that represents the UK car rental industry | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
insists that customers need to make sure they understand the deals | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
and contracts they've signed up to | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
so there's no confusion later on. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
It's in the interest of both consumers | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
and our members to ensure that transparency is | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
maximised in the whole booking process, so that consumers | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
are made aware very early on in the process what is the price | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
that they're going to pay to drive away the car or van | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
that they want to rent. If you're hiring a car abroad, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
there's a number of basic steps to take | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
which can ensure that your experience is going to be a good one. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
You have to really understand the terms and conditions | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
that you're singing up to of any contract | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
and print them off the website, take the time to read them | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
before you actually make the booking. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
So when you go to the desk to collect the keys of your vehicle, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
you're prepared. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Of course, John and Teresa had thought they were prepared | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
but still, once at the desk, somehow it all unravelled. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
They also knew their trip of a lifetime wouldn't be cheap, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
but they never imagined what they paid for their hire car would | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
end up as much as it did. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
This is a huge amount of money. We're now living on a pension | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
and I think that makes the impact even bigger. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
Not something anybody could afford to lose. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain we're always ready | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
to investigate your stories and not just about holidays. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
and want to share the mistakes you made with us | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
so that other people don't do the same. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Or you can send us an e-mail to... | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Well, as we've been hearing, when something doesn't go to plan | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
on holiday, it can lead to all sorts of unexpected costs and expense. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
And while of course you can never prepare for every eventuality, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
you can at least limit your risks by being absolutely 100% clear | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
on what it is you think you're paying for. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
That's really vital advice. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
And if you're in any way unsure, then take extra advice. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Don't assume that something's necessarily | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
as straightforward as you think. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Because while it's not true of all our stories today, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
certainly in some cases, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
if the information that's come to light now had been known a little | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
earlier on, then a very different decision may well have been made. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
We could all be so clever, couldn't we? | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
But it is true that | 0:42:50 | 0:42:51 | |
if you're prepared to do a bit of extra research or checking right | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
at the start, you could save yourself an awful lot of grief later on. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
So our very heartfelt thanks to all of those people who were | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
prepared to share their experiences with us today. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
Well, we will be back to look at even more of your stories very soon, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
so do please keep them coming. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
But until then, from everyone on the team, bye-bye. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
-Goodbye. -Thanks for your company. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 |