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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates.

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And the shops and labels don't always tell you the whole story.

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Sometimes, when you have these offers on in the supermarket,

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you think you're getting a good deal.

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But if you're actually throwing it away, it's not a good deal.

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Whether you're staying in or going out,

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you've told us you can feel ripped off by the promises made for

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what you eat and what you pay for it.

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What really winds me up is the price of so-called healthy food,

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compared with the unhealthy stuff.

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The unhealthy stuff seems to be so much cheaper.

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From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind

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the packaging, we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food,

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so you can be sure you're getting what you expect at the right price.

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Your food, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain and our special series about

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food, which today is all about making sure the things we eat

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don't do us any harm.

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Whether that's because we've eaten something that perhaps is past its

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best or if it turns out that the store we bought it from simply

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-isn't clean enough.

-Doesn't bear thinking about, does it?

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Both of those situations could potentially lead to food poisoning,

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which of course explains why there are swarms of people working

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so hard to try and prevent any of us from getting ill -

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from the Food Standards Agency to your local Trading Standards.

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Well, although the work of all those people is vital,

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there are still things that slip through the net and

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a number of you have been in touch about your concerns.

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So we've gone behind the scenes in the food industry to try and

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answer some of those questions and to ask what else could be

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done to keep us safe.

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Coming up, with even big-name supermarkets scoring badly in

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the hygiene stakes, we're on the road with the teams cracking down on

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stores, making sure that every place we buy our food is up to scratch.

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Your food hygiene rating certainly won't rise from your two that

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you've currently got at the minute. Potentially, actually,

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your food hygiene rating will go down to a one.

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And a controversy that bitterly divides dog owners and, I must

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say, I've wrestled with this one myself - should you or should

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you not feed your dog raw meat?

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It was incredible.

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It was absolutely unbelievable because we'd spent hundreds of

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pounds on this dog and actually, all we needed to do was change her diet.

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I'm sure that many of you may remember that in our last

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food series, we took a look at the hygiene ratings that you've

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probably seen displayed on a green-and-black sticker in

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the windows of restaurants and cafes.

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It's a measure of cleanliness given by the local council,

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following an inspection of any outlet that sells food.

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Now, in England, a rating of five is the best rating and zero...

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Well, clearly, that's far from good.

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Scotland have a slightly different system, but the expected

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levels of cleanliness are of course exactly the same.

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But what you may not have realised is that these standards also

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apply to shops and supermarkets.

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And just as we found last time with eating establishments,

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some of these stores, even those belonging to big-name chains,

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have been given a rating of zero or one.

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So we've been finding out why on earth that happens and

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what's being done to clean them up.

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Every day in towns and cities across the UK,

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there's an army of people whose job it is to make sure that the

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places where we buy food are kept in the state we'd expect.

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How did we identify we had a problem? Did you see droppings?

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I could see the rats outside! Yeah, yeah.

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And each time when they throw the rubbish to the bins,

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we can see the rats.

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And with so many fast-food takeaways, restaurants and bars,

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the work of the Environmental Health officer has never been busier.

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Good to see all your bin lids are shut. It doesn't smell.

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There's no waste or litter blowing around the floor.

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But it's an equally vital part of their job to inspect

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supermarkets, to ensure that these, too,

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are kept pristine and pest-free.

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And there's no sign of any droppings or anything like that.

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And certainly,

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the people we spoke to would assume that that was always the case.

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I would definitely expect the highest standards of hygiene

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-in supermarkets.

-That's great.

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You just don't know what goes on behind the scenes there,

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so you would just be expecting the best.

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I would expect a supermarket to be clean.

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I mean, you're looking at fresh food and you're picking it up.

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You wouldn't expect, like, an infestation where you've got,

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like, rat droppings and everything all over t'place.

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I've been in one what I don't think's clean.

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I'm not saying it's dirty-dirty.

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But it's just... I don't go in it.

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So, it seems that some people are indeed choosing to take their

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custom elsewhere. But thankfully,

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the Food Standards Agency takes the business of hygiene very seriously.

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They set the guidelines for the rating scheme,

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which the local authorities follow when carrying out inspections

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of a shop or supermarket.

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The food hygiene rating scheme actually lets you know about

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the things you don't see at a premises.

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That gives consumers an idea of what the actual hygiene standards

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are like at the premises.

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But also, it's for businesses -

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they can show their customers they take food hygiene seriously

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and it acts as an incentive for those that are perhaps

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performing not so well to actually raise their game.

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The areas that the food safety officer inspects are the

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hygienic handling of food, which covers the preparation,

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cooking, cooling, reheating and storage of food.

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There's the management of food safety,

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which looks at the processes that are in place to make sure the

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business ensures that the food it serves is safe.

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The training of staff and then there's how clean

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a building is, layout, ventilation, and pest control.

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-Walk-in chiller? Down at the back?

-Yeah.

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-In the back, yeah.

-OK.

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Of course, the best way to see if shops and supermarkets are

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sticking to the rules,

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so that we can be really confident about spending our money there,

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is to join the teams carrying out their inspections.

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We're not really going to find problems in here. It's too cold.

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-So all your stock's in here?

-Yeah.

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-You don't have any other stock off site?

-No.

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First, we're in Slough, with the senior enforcement officer on

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the food and safety team, Julie Snelling.

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So, yeah, the business that we're going to visit this afternoon

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is a Polish retailer.

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The last time this small supermarket was inspected,

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it was awarded a hygiene rating of two, indicating improvements

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were needed, and the team has issued recommendations to help with that.

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Hello. My name's Julie. I'm from Slough Borough Council.

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I've come to do your routine food hygiene inspection today.

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Owner Beston Omar will join Julie for the inspection.

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After washing her hands,

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she starts by checking the temperature of the fridges.

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The guidelines say that a fridge or freezer storing food should

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be checked at least once a day.

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If they're not cold enough, harmful bacteria can grow.

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-Do you check the temperature inside, as well?

-Yes, I think we've got...

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Do you have one thermometer, or do you have two, or...?

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-We have two.

-You have the two.

-Yeah.

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-You can't find either of them?

-No, I don't know right now.

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You don't know where they are.

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-But do they use them every day?

-Yeah, they use them earlier.

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If they're using them here for checking every day, do they not keep it here?

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-They used to keep it here, but I don't know where they put it.

-You don't know where they've put it.

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It's not a great start.

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The lack of thermometers could mean that the fridges have not

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been monitored as often as they should be.

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So, after cleaning her own device, Julie takes the readings herself.

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-Temperature looks very good.

-Yeah.

-So it's already at four.

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-It is normal.

-And it's coming down.

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Their fridge is working at a good temperature,

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so I'm very happy with the temperature.

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However, I'm a little concerned about actually the

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temperature-checking regime,

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simply because they've not been able to find their thermometer probe.

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But while the temperature in the meat fridge is as expected, on the

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other side of the shop, the fresh-cake fridge

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has a higher reading.

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How do you manage the temperature control in here?

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-Where do you take...?

-The display there.

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-OK.

-Yeah.

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You read the labels, the manufacturer - the person who

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made this cake - is telling you that you must store it below eight.

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There's also a legal requirement because these are what we

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call high risk. They've got fresh cream in them.

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You have to store them at or below eight degrees.

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This one is saying here store below five degrees.

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Beston must lower this fridge's temperature to eliminate the

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risk of bacteria growing in these high-risk fresh goods.

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So, a little adjustment maybe on the fridge there,

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just to make it a little bit cooler. But it's not terribly bad,

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but we do need to bring it down below eight degrees.

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An inspection like this covers every aspect of hygiene,

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from the shop floor to the staff toilets.

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Because the toilet's not ventilated.

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On the last inspection, the storage at the rear wasn't considered up

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to scratch and Julie's not convinced enough improvements have been made.

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Better managed, yeah.

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This is obviously an area where your staff are storing their uniform.

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So every day, they need to take their dirty one home.

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This is an area where you're storing food.

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Got lots of kind of dirty clothing and stuff.

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It's either a food area, or it's not a food area.

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Julie would like to see a separate area for the staff to keep

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their clothes, away from the food.

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-This is your walk-in chiller?

-Yeah.

-What are the items down here?

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-They are all for fridge.

-It's all across the floor.

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We need it to come up off of the floor.

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All food should be safely stored off the floor and out of the

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reach of other products, to avoid cross-contamination.

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So despite the efforts he's already made,

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it seems that owner Beston still needs to try that bit harder.

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This whole area here all needs cleaning.

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Because with the inspection complete, it's not good news.

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I'm going to let you know after I've written my letter what your

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food hygiene rating will be.

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However, I think I need to kind of inform you that your food

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hygiene rating certainly won't rise from your two that you've

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currently got at the minute. Potentially, actually,

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your food hygiene rating will go down to a one.

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The rating going down isn't what Beston had hoped for.

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And though he's ready to get stuck in to turning that around,

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he's got his work cut out.

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It's quite difficult with a big store and I'm just by myself

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working, like, hard to improve it, but I keep trying.

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I try to do whatever she told me,

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try to do different process then.

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And he won't be on his own with that because Julie and her team

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will offer advice to get that score up again next time.

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What I'll be looking to now is really for the business to

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kind of work with us as a local authority,

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so that we can agree kind of small steps forward and then for

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him to concentrate kind of in the longer term on some of the

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more minor issues, as well, but I have every hope that, actually, if we can work together and

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build a good working relationship that actually we can get him to improve quite substantially.

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But it's not just smaller supermarkets and corner shops

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that sometimes score lower ratings on these inspections.

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Not every branch of the big-name stores always comes out

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too well, either.

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In fact, on the day we checked the Food Standards Agency database,

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there were 25 branches of various well-known stores that had

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a food hygiene score of either one, zero, or in Scotland,

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"improvement required".

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We requested copies of their inspection reports and the

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ones we got back didn't make for pleasant reading.

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Tesco, Coop, and Budgens -

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each had several stores with hygiene problems.

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Five Tesco outlets needed major improvements, including an Express

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store in Colliers Wood, which had evidence of squirrels in the yard.

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The Coop was responsible for eight problem stores,

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including the Coop Welcome in Smallfield, Surrey,

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where sandwiches were being stored in fridges that were too warm.

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However, the FSA says such failings from major chains is the

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exception, rather than the norm.

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These are not typical, as 80% of supermarkets are rated as a five.

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But people can rest assured that the food safety officer will

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be taking the necessary action to ensure that these things are

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addressed and that when they go to the supermarket and buy their

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food, the food will be safe to eat.

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And if that does mean that the business has to be closed down,

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or part of the business actually closed,

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then rest assured that will be done.

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When we contacted the supermarkets about the stores with low

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hygiene ratings, Budgens told us that while all its stores are

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independently owned and operated,

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it would work with the low-rated stores to help them improve.

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It said that over 85% of Budgens stores have

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a score of either four or five.

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And the Coop told us that it insists on the highest standards of

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hygiene and issues raised by the inspection in Smallfield were

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quickly rectified, including replacing the refrigeration.

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Tesco said the cleanliness in its stores is extremely important

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and stressed that over 99% are rated good or very good condition.

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They went on to say that immediate and extensive action

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has been taken to address the five stores with hygiene issues,

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including a deep clean and improvements to the yard at

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its Colliers Wood store.

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-They have the date on them.

-Yeah.

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Right, fine.

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But there's one issue that all food outlets face,

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whatever their hygiene rating.

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So for the next hygiene inspection,

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we're joining senior environmental health officer Ben Thompson from

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Bury Council, who works with food businesses to keep pests at bay.

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Good.

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The main issue with pests is if the issue is ignored by the food

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business operator, it doesn't go away, it just gets worse.

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So it's important that if they have a problem,

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they need to attend to that and address it as soon as possible,

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to prevent it escalating and becoming a major problem.

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Today, Ben is inspecting a deli that's previously had

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a problem with rats.

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So he's catching up with the owner on what's been done to tackle it.

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How did we identify we had a problem? Did you see droppings?

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-We could see the rats outside.

-Oh, you saw the rats.

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In the evening time when they throw the rubbish to the bins,

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-you can see the rats running.

-Right, OK.

-Next to the bins.

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And what did you do when you saw that problem?

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They really scared, come inside the shop and we ring the pest

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control straightaway and tell them we have rats outside the shop.

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And they come next day, so they are doing, as well,

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a really good service.

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When owner Rafael moved his deli to this site three years

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ago, he also inherited this pest problem.

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Since then, he's worked hard to make the premises rat-proof.

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We will walk around, like, three times around the shop,

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so we put in, like, special things on the drains,

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so they can't go through the drains, we fill up with the special

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-thing on the roof, so they can't go through the roof.

-OK.

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So prepare shop quite well to not get inside.

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The store now has a pest control team that makes regular

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visits and every potential rat hole has been filled.

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It's reassuring to see that they've got down a trap.

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The fact they can demonstrate it through the pest control records,

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they're actively monitoring the situation with regards to rodents.

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And I can tell that it's clean and tidy, there are no burrows.

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Ben is happy with the improvements and, after inspecting the rest of

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the store, he increases the deli's hygiene rating from three to four.

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I'll give you this food hygiene rating of four, which is good.

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And again, five is excellent,

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and you'll easily be able to achieve that with those minor improvements.

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And you'll be able to display that proudly on your wall.

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Thank you very much.

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So we really happy with the four. But we want to get the five.

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Fingers crossed, we will get the five.

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Rafael will now proudly display his four-star rating in the window,

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reassuring customers that everything is clean and well-maintained.

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But as we've reported before, not every establishment does this

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and nor is there always an obligation for them to do so.

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In Wales and Northern Ireland,

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every place that's inspected must display its hygiene rating.

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But in England and Scotland, it isn't a legal requirement and

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many places don't bother - something that the FSA want to change.

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The Food Standards Agency is committed to making it a legal

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requirement to display the rating, but at the moment within the agency,

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the regulatory framework that underpins food safety is currently

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being reviewed by a project called Regulating Our Future.

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We will then put together a case to put to ministers to look to

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get legislation in place to require the display of ratings.

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Generally, what we advise is if you don't see a rating,

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either ask why or look around for somewhere that does proudly

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display its rating, that's got a rating of three, four, or five.

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You may not have realised food shops and supermarkets even have

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ratings similar to those in cafes and restaurants,

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but the work of hygiene inspectors like the ones we've been out

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with remains key to ensuring that consumers can make an

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informed decision about where to shop.

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It's very important for the locality that actually our businesses

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are good and have good food hygiene ratings and it's important

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for their business, too, so we will always encourage them to

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follow the advice we've given in inspection reports.

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As a council, we also provide a self-help checklist that

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enables them actually to go round and to check their own areas

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of the premises and to ask themselves some questions about how well they're doing.

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We'd always encourage them to do that again to make sure that

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they're doing all that they should be doing.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain,

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we do our own research into out-of-date food -

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that was an issue for a number of low rated stores - and are

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staggered by the number of products that we find past their best.

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So, this salami that you found is a month past its use by date.

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I really wouldn't be comfortable eating it because any

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disease-causing bacteria will have had a chance to amplify.

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Now, it isn't just the food we eat that can prove controversial.

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There's equally fierce debate over what we feed our pets,

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as I found out when I recently got a lovely new little puppy and

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found myself confronted with two very different pieces of advice.

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Well, I spoke to a number of people about what I'd been told and

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was really interested to see how many said that they'd been

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just as confused as I was over exactly the same issue.

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So for anyone with a four-legged friend,

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this next story will either strike a familiar chord or make you

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question some of the food you're feeding it.

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As you may know,

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I'm a massive dog-lover and, a few times over the years, my two

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lovely ones, Roxy and Gemma, have even popped up in this programme.

0:19:270:19:32

However, very, very sadly, I lost Roxy earlier this year,

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which was totally devastating.

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But while nothing or nobody can take her place,

0:19:370:19:40

I didn't want Gemma to get lonely, either.

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So we decided to get another King Charles Cavalier.

0:19:420:19:45

Well, this is Polly, my new pup.

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She's only four months old and she's a handful,

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but she's absolutely delightful.

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Now, when we picked Polly up from the breeder, she had actually been

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weaned from the mother on raw food, which I've never dealt with, really.

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So I continued with that,

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but then when I went for Polly's vaccinations at 12 weeks,

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I asked my vet about that and he was totally against raw food,

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so there I am and, as I want to do my best for our new pup,

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I'm not too sure which way to go.

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Now, until all this happened, I hadn't realised what

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a hot potato the question of feeding dogs raw food actually is.

0:20:210:20:25

And I have to tell you, I was left very, very confused over what to do.

0:20:250:20:29

I'm usually a firm believer that the vet knows best,

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but Polly seemed to be thriving on the raw meat that I was giving her.

0:20:320:20:37

And at this dog show in Stafford, the owners we spoke to were

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very divided over what they should be feeding their precious pooches.

0:20:400:20:44

I used to feed raw,

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but I was worried about getting all the nutrients and the balance right.

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The right percentage of bone, offal and meat and muscle,

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so I decided to move them on to a dried food.

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It's a prepared food. Prepared dried food.

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It's what the dogs were first on when we first got them from

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the breeders. I've never had any problems or any issues with them,

0:21:050:21:08

so I've just carried on, really.

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In the wild, they would have obviously gone and sourced

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their food and eaten it.

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Where nowadays, we source the food and we make it adaptable for them.

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I've found raw, they really like it, they eat it,

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I have no problems with them.

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It sounds horrendous - they do wonderful poos.

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An uncooked-meat diet can cost more than double the processed

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equivalent, especially if you buy readymade raw food.

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But just like our processed meals,

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conventional dog food can contain preservatives, flavours and colours.

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Many advocates of a raw diet pay the extra to get closer to

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a food that they see as natural.

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And one person who swears by a raw diet is Ann Ridyard.

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She first came across it when her golden retriever Winnie began

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losing her fur.

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We took her to the vet's and he basically told us that it was

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canine alopecia.

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She was a healthy dog, other than that.

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She could live with it. It wasn't bothering her.

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But it was bothering me a lot.

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Are you all right with that? Do you need a hand out?

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-Oh, it's fine.

-All right, thanks again.

-Bye.

-Bye.

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Well, Ann started to do some research and came across

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someone on an online forum whose dog had a similar problem.

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Now, this owner had changed her dog's diet from commercial dog food

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to raw meat and was so sure of the benefits that Ann did the same.

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I went to butchers, I cobbled together a diet,

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based on what I believed to be right.

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And my dog improved within a matter of weeks.

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The fur started growing back. It was incredible.

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It was absolutely unbelievable

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because we'd spent hundreds of pounds on this dog and

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actually all we needed to do was change her diet.

0:23:020:23:06

Ann was so taken aback that a change in diet could have made such

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a dramatic effect that she wanted to make it easier for others to

0:23:100:23:13

do the same.

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So she set up her own business, supplying and selling raw food.

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And ever since, her opinion on commercial dog food

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has changed completely.

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It's an artificial replacement food

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for real food and I think

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that because of marketing hype and because of the way society

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has gone over the past 75 years, we've tried to turn our

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carnivores into four-legged recycling

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machines for grain and they're not.

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-Hello.

-Hi.

-Hi, how are you?

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And there are plenty of people who share the same opinion.

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Vet Dr Rahini has been an advocate of raw food since her pet cat

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passed away from cancer.

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I started doing some research

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and then I happened to do a course

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in animal healing and one of the chapters in the course was

0:24:060:24:10

about raw food.

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-Looks like he's lost a bit of weight. Yeah?

-Yeah.

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'I started looking at it as an alternative way of feeding animals,'

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which seemingly was fantastic.

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Dr Rahini now owns a dog and believes

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a raw diet is the way forward to keep it healthy.

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I personally feel that the majority of the conditions that we see

0:24:300:24:34

in practice can be prevented by being on the right diet.

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And some of the conditions that are very frustrating to treat and

0:24:380:24:43

that seem to be reoccurring very often are food allergies,

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aid to pee, obesity, dental problems, and ear

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infections, all of which can really

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be fixed, majority of the time, by feeding pets the right diet.

0:24:550:25:00

'Well, all of that is certainly very different

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'from the advice from my own vet.

0:25:030:25:05

'I was told not to feed Polly raw meat,

0:25:050:25:08

'because raw diets have been found to contain

0:25:080:25:10

'a number of types of bacteria

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'which are harmful to dogs, and indeed humans,

0:25:120:25:14

'such as salmonella and campylobacter.'

0:25:140:25:17

Now, advocates of the raw food diet say that any bacteria that's found

0:25:170:25:21

is not at levels that would be seriously harmful.

0:25:210:25:24

But on the other hand, I would hate to see my new puppy get ill -

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or indeed any other dog get ill -

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because of something that I had chosen to feed them.

0:25:290:25:31

'As you can see, the varieties of many of...'

0:25:310:25:34

'Back at the toy-dog show,

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'animal nutritionist Mike Davies would take that line, as well.

0:25:360:25:40

'He lectures in animal nutrition, and also advises dog-food

0:25:400:25:43

'manufacturers on what canines need to ensure they get a balanced diet.

0:25:430:25:48

'And while he agrees that raw could in theory give a dog

0:25:480:25:52

'everything it needs, it's difficult to get the right balance.

0:25:520:25:56

'So it's not an approach he would recommend,

0:25:560:25:59

'particularly for young dogs.'

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I would urge people not to feed puppies raw.

0:26:010:26:04

And the reason for that is,

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if you get the balance between feeding the meat and the

0:26:050:26:08

other parts of the carcass wrong,

0:26:080:26:10

you can end up with really serious dietary problems, which can

0:26:100:26:13

lead to nutritional deficiencies, which can lead to disease.

0:26:130:26:17

And we see a lot of that.

0:26:170:26:18

If you feed too much meat in your raw food,

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then that will be a calcium-deficient diet.

0:26:220:26:26

If you over-supplement with calcium, and you get too much calcium,

0:26:260:26:30

that can interfere with other minerals like copper and zinc,

0:26:300:26:33

which we have shown are important to developmental diseases.

0:26:330:26:36

'Mike believes that, overall,

0:26:360:26:38

'it's safer and less expensive to use a complete commercial feed.'

0:26:380:26:42

You should be able to rely on a good manufacturer that's

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selling you a complete pet food to have ensured that that food

0:26:440:26:48

contains everything a growing puppy needs,

0:26:480:26:50

and also have conducted trials to prove it does.

0:26:500:26:54

And the second reason is,

0:26:540:26:55

you can be reassured that the bacterial infections which

0:26:550:26:58

could be being carried in a raw food aren't going to be present,

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because the cooking process will have destroyed them.

0:27:020:27:05

'But with opinions of owners and vets being so clearly split,

0:27:050:27:09

'I want to know what the official guidance on this is

0:27:090:27:12

'from the veterinary profession.

0:27:120:27:14

'So I've come straight to the top,

0:27:140:27:16

'to meet the president of the British Veterinary Association,

0:27:160:27:19

'Gudrun Ravetz.'

0:27:190:27:20

So, I have my new puppy, Polly.

0:27:220:27:23

Obviously, I want to do my best for her.

0:27:230:27:25

So, where do you stand on it all?

0:27:250:27:28

So, we know from research that raw food can contain salmonella.

0:27:280:27:33

But importantly, quite a lot of raw food

0:27:330:27:35

is contaminated by campylobacter.

0:27:350:27:37

We know that's quite a significant reason for poisoning,

0:27:370:27:40

certainly in people.

0:27:400:27:41

The raw food that I feed her comes prepacked,

0:27:410:27:44

-and they say it's a complete thing.

-Yeah.

0:27:440:27:46

All the nutrients have been... Good nutrients have been added.

0:27:460:27:50

So it's not like it's just any old raw food from the butcher.

0:27:500:27:53

Even with commercially prepared foods

0:27:530:27:55

that have potentially been frozen,

0:27:550:27:56

there's still a higher risk of those contaminated pathogens,

0:27:560:28:00

and you can imagine those contaminating pathogens are not

0:28:000:28:02

killed by cooking, they're then potentially around Polly's mouth,

0:28:020:28:06

around Polly's paws, perhaps in the food bowl.

0:28:060:28:09

And then that can be a risk. So...

0:28:090:28:11

-Do you mean a risk to not only Polly but to humans?

-Yes, potentially.

0:28:110:28:15

So we need to be aware that Polly can be ingesting these

0:28:150:28:18

and shedding these pathogens - the salmonella, campylobacter -

0:28:180:28:21

so they are actually shedding it out but they're well in themselves.

0:28:210:28:25

'Gudrun's also keen to highlight foods that you should never feed your dog.'

0:28:250:28:29

And what are the absolute no-nos, as far as you're concerned?

0:28:290:28:32

Onions, grapes, raisins,

0:28:320:28:35

can all have serious problems with dogs.

0:28:350:28:38

Particularly grapes and raisins - they can cause kidney problems,

0:28:380:28:40

and that can be very serious.

0:28:400:28:42

In terms of onions, then, what's the problem?

0:28:420:28:44

Does that get stuck in their system, or something?

0:28:440:28:46

No, it has an effect in the body

0:28:460:28:48

which can make them very, very poorly.

0:28:480:28:50

-Really?

-So it's actually the onion itself.

0:28:500:28:52

And then other things like chocolate.

0:28:520:28:54

And can that kill a dog?

0:28:540:28:55

Yes, it can. It can be very, very serious.

0:28:550:28:58

So again, with any of those,

0:28:580:28:59

the minute you notice they've eaten something like that,

0:28:590:29:01

it really is important you speak to your local veterinary surgeon

0:29:010:29:04

and you get them down.

0:29:040:29:06

'Well, chocolate raisins and onions are all definitely

0:29:090:29:12

'off the menu for Polly.

0:29:120:29:13

'But you know, things aren't so clear-cut on the big dilemma

0:29:130:29:16

'of whether to feed her raw meat.

0:29:160:29:18

'But for me, though,

0:29:180:29:19

'some of Gudrun's words have rather hit home.'

0:29:190:29:22

Well, the end of it all, we've looked at both sides

0:29:230:29:26

really thoroughly, and each is as dedicated as the other.

0:29:260:29:29

The only thing, from my point of view, when I heard the

0:29:290:29:32

Veterinary Association say that salmonella or other bacteria could

0:29:320:29:36

actually transfer quite easily from a dog to a human being,

0:29:360:29:40

I personally have to be really careful

0:29:400:29:42

because at one point, from meat, I had a type of blood poisoning

0:29:420:29:46

and I was in hospital for two weeks.

0:29:460:29:48

So I'm a bit afraid of that and, at this precise moment,

0:29:480:29:52

I am veering towards moving away from raw food.

0:29:520:29:55

However, it is sufficient to say that the jury is out.

0:29:550:29:58

Earlier in the programme, we discovered that several

0:30:040:30:07

supermarkets and local stores have been issued with shockingly

0:30:070:30:10

low hygiene ratings by their local councils.

0:30:100:30:14

We also found that several establishments had out-of-date food

0:30:140:30:17

sitting on their shelves.

0:30:170:30:19

And that was something that one viewer had already written to us

0:30:190:30:22

about after spotting the same thing in several shops near to her.

0:30:220:30:26

Well, that set us wondering just how widespread this might be.

0:30:260:30:29

And the only way to find out was to go shopping.

0:30:290:30:32

'Many times on this series,

0:30:350:30:36

'we've talked about the various dates on food packaging.

0:30:360:30:40

'And while a number of products with a "best before" date can often

0:30:400:30:44

'be safely consumed after that date, anything labelled "use-by"

0:30:440:30:49

'really does need to be polished off by then.

0:30:490:30:52

'What's more, it an offence for foods to be sold after that use-by date,

0:30:520:30:56

'and any business caught doing it can face a hefty fine.

0:30:560:31:00

'As happened to Asda in November 2016.'

0:31:020:31:06

Asda has been fined £75,000 for selling out-of-date food

0:31:070:31:12

at its West Bridgford store in Nottinghamshire.

0:31:120:31:15

Most of the items found by inspectors were chilled meats,

0:31:150:31:17

including a pack of haslet five months past its use-by date.

0:31:170:31:22

'Not every instance of this happening will make headlines.

0:31:220:31:26

'But if the experience of Nadiya Amlani is anything to go by,

0:31:260:31:30

'other retailers, including local convenience stores,

0:31:300:31:33

'may be selling out-of-date foods more often than you'd think.'

0:31:330:31:36

I went into my local supermarket, and I picked up some fresh soup.

0:31:380:31:42

And I got home and I realised it had actually gone out of date

0:31:420:31:45

two days prior to that.

0:31:450:31:47

So it was a really frustrating experience,

0:31:470:31:49

because I had just got home, planned to have that soup for dinner,

0:31:490:31:52

and unfortunately couldn't eat it because it was

0:31:520:31:55

a fresh chicken soup and I was worried about the consequences.

0:31:550:31:58

'Nadiya says she has encountered the same problem

0:31:590:32:02

'on subsequent visits to the same store.'

0:32:020:32:05

Since then, I've noticed it a few times, as well.

0:32:050:32:08

I've been back into my local supermarket and picked up

0:32:080:32:13

a milk or a bread or a butter, and on those occasions

0:32:130:32:16

I have actually realised, in some instances,

0:32:160:32:19

that they are out of date.

0:32:190:32:20

To be perfectly honest,

0:32:200:32:21

I don't think I check every single product before I put it

0:32:210:32:24

into my basket, I think that could get quite time-consuming and

0:32:240:32:27

I don't exactly have an endless amount of time in the supermarket,

0:32:270:32:30

it's usually a really quick, five-minute shop.

0:32:300:32:33

I've only complained about this on two occasions.

0:32:340:32:37

And those occasions were when it came to high-risk items,

0:32:370:32:40

so I think one was a milk situation

0:32:400:32:43

and one was fresh chicken breast.

0:32:430:32:47

And in both those instances,

0:32:470:32:49

I went back to the supermarket and complained about it.

0:32:490:32:51

And the reaction, in one case, was pretty positive.

0:32:510:32:54

It was like, you know,

0:32:540:32:55

really apologetic for the situation, and they will speak to management.

0:32:550:32:59

In another case,

0:32:590:33:00

it was not apologetic at all and it was more like,

0:33:000:33:03

"Well, you can't prove that that particular product was purchased

0:33:030:33:06

"today, and that receipt is associated with this product."

0:33:060:33:10

'Well, luckily, on each of the occasions that caused her to complain,

0:33:100:33:14

'Nadiya had spotted that the food she'd bought was out of date

0:33:140:33:17

'before she ate it. But what would be the risks if she hadn't?

0:33:170:33:21

'Dietician Rick Miller has come to offer advice.'

0:33:210:33:24

If I bought a chicken soup today,

0:33:260:33:28

and it had gone off date two days ago,

0:33:280:33:30

can I eat that soup?

0:33:300:33:32

I would say, absolutely do not eat it.

0:33:320:33:35

Because it is now two days beyond the point where it should have been

0:33:350:33:38

off the shelf, and it definitely should have been flagged with the supermarket

0:33:380:33:42

so they can tighten up their regulatory controls,

0:33:420:33:45

because it is a safety risk.

0:33:450:33:47

How soon after food has gone past its date can you actually eat it?

0:33:470:33:51

When is it considered to be dangerous?

0:33:510:33:53

The use-by date is there for safety.

0:33:530:33:57

So you should not be consuming foods that have

0:33:570:33:59

a use-by date beyond that date.

0:33:590:34:01

Now, of course, some people are going to bend the rules

0:34:010:34:04

and they're going to try and sniff things and make sure,

0:34:040:34:06

but those aren't particularly reliable measures because

0:34:060:34:09

pathogens, or microorganisms, things like bacteria, moulds, fungi,

0:34:090:34:14

they start to build up on the foods and then they start to

0:34:140:34:16

become unsafe to eat and they could cause things like salmonella,

0:34:160:34:19

like food poisoning, so people could be incredibly unwell.

0:34:190:34:23

And is there a difference in particular types of products

0:34:230:34:25

and their use-by dates?

0:34:250:34:27

So, for example, one time it was a chicken soup,

0:34:270:34:29

the next time it was butter.

0:34:290:34:30

Like, what can I eat beyond its use-by date?

0:34:300:34:33

There are certain foods that don't need to have, by law,

0:34:330:34:36

a use-by date because they don't tend to become dangerous

0:34:360:34:40

after a certain point, they just degrade,

0:34:400:34:42

so they become untasty or not very good.

0:34:420:34:44

So butter is one of those foods, because those microorganisms

0:34:440:34:47

can't really grow on butter very easily,

0:34:470:34:49

or the types of microorganisms that do grow aren't particularly unsafe.

0:34:490:34:53

Bread's another one,

0:34:530:34:54

certain types of cakes - those without cream or jam -

0:34:540:34:57

they just become inedible, really, they become untasty.

0:34:570:35:00

But other foods, things like dairy products, meat, vegetables,

0:35:000:35:04

soups, maybe, these are actually quite a safety risk

0:35:040:35:08

if you start consuming them beyond the use-by date.

0:35:080:35:11

And unfortunately, the sniff test is not always enough

0:35:110:35:14

to know if something is actually going a little bit out of date.

0:35:140:35:17

'Luckily, it's not just down to us shoppers to make sure

0:35:170:35:20

'that out-of-date food doesn't end up in our baskets.

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'Local authorities are keeping a watchful eye out, too.

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'Jo Hamer works for West Yorkshire Trading Standards and says

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'this is an issue that regularly comes up during inspections.'

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Out of date food is something that we are always looking at

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when we are out and about on retail premises,

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and it's something that the department takes very seriously.

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We would visit businesses routinely, so if they are on our radar,

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we would be doing perhaps an annual check of them.

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We also get information from environmental health

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of new businesses that have been registered,

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in which case we would visit a proportion of those.

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And we also get complaints from consumers that they're selling

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past the use-by date, so we would visit them in those instances.

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We would inspect any retail business,

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whether that be a small independent or a large multinational company.

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As we saw earlier in the programme,

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local authorities do prefer to work with businesses to ensure

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good food practices are in place.

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But when required, they'll take tough action, too.

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The department's actions are proportionate.

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So, if for example, if there are a few items that are a few days

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past the use-by date, while that is still in itself an offence,

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the business might have missed checking, it looks like they are

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doing some checks but they've just missed on those particular days.

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However, if a large number of items are found a large number of days

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past their use-by date, that is deemed more serious.

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The items are much more unsafe, the business, it seems to us,

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are not doing the checks at all,

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and therefore it would possibly go to court.

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'And indeed, that is what's happened to one store on Jo's patch

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'in a particularly shocking recent case.'

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We visited the premises following information

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from Environmental Health that the business had changed ownership.

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So we visited to carry out an inspection,

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looked in the refrigerator to check the items were all within date.

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Unfortunately, we found a large number of items past their use-by date,

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items such as sliced chicken, sliced turkey and yoghurts were found.

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This was a very serious case, because on inspection,

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we found 88 items, totalling 1,769 days past their use-by date.

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The worst cases were five items found 48 days past that date.

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'The case went to court and the store and one of its directors

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'were ordered to pay more than £20,000 in fines and costs

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'for selling unsafe food.'

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'Well, that's an extreme case.

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'We wanted to get a sense of how frequently stores do have foods

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'past their use-by date on sale that we might buy unsuspectingly.'

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'And, of course, the only way to do that was to go shopping.'

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Over three days, we visited a mix of 25 convenience stores

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and local corner shops in Manchester and Salford.

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We thought we might find the odd one or two selling outdated food,

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but in fact, it turned out to be the case in no less than eight of them.

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That's nearly a third of the total.

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We managed to buy a total of 14 products past their best,

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including yoghurt, ham, a sausage roll and salami.

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During two visits to one branch of a major convenience store,

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we found five products out of date, including some Italian prosciutto

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that was 65 days past its use-by date.

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Yup, you heard right - over two months out of date.

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Well, we took our findings to the lab of microbiologist Dr Chloe James

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to find out what could be lurking beneath the packaging.

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These products that you've brought in are all refrigerated.

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Despite the fact of them being stored at four degrees, a number of

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disease-causing bacteria can quite happily grow at that temperature.

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In particular, listeria can happily amplify at four degrees, and so they

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would still pose a risk, especially those that are more out of date.

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'Dr James is particularly concerned as several of the processed

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'products we bought will already have been exposed to bacteria

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'in the various stages of their production.'

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So, these are all highly processed foods, and a lot has gone on

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in between the farm and the supermarket shelves.

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In particular, chickens are commonly colonised by campylobacter,

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which is the number one food poisoning bacteria in the UK.

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In that case, the meat has been contaminated

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from the guts of the chicken at slaughter.

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Other ways that the meat could be contaminated is during

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preparation, so the food handlers, or if the equipment is contaminated.

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Listeria is an environmental organism,

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and so that could contaminate food during the processing.

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If that's not sterilised before packaging,

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that bacteria is going to amplify where it sits on the shelf,

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so if you eat food that's beyond its use-by date, you're increasing

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the likelihood of being exposed to any of that bacteria, if it's there.

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'And it seems each of the products we bought

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'could have a different risk.'

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Yoghurt past its use-by date could also be a concern.

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It's a rich source of nutrients for bacteria,

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and if there's any disease-causing bacteria there,

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they're only going to amplify in the fridge.

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'And even the cured meats, which typically have

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'a long shelf life, will be of concern when out of date.'

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So this salami that you found is a month past its use-by date.

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I wouldn't be comfortable eating this, even though the curing process

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does kill a lot of bacteria, you can't rule out the fact that

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bacteria will have been transferred to it during processing.

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'We sent all of our findings to the respective councils,

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'who've passed the details onto the Environmental Health teams

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'for further investigations.

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'And if you come across similarly outdated products when you're

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'out shopping, though the temptation may be to just leave them

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'and move on, back in Yorkshire, trading standards officer Jo Hamer

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'says you should always bring it to the store's attention.'

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It's important that businesses are aware of the potential

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consequences of selling food past their use-by date.

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Their reputation could be damaged, but ultimately,

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it comes down to the consumer.

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Their health is at risk if they eat food past their use-by date.

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If a customer were to find items past their use-by date on sale,

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I would advise them not to buy the product and to tell the

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business that they've found this item past the date.

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'As for Nadiya, she's staying extra-vigilant

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'and won't hesitate to make a fuss if she comes across

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'any more out-of-date food in her local store.'

0:41:520:41:55

I'm hoping that supermarkets

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can do more rigorous checks, that they can put better checks

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in place for their employees, and making sure that their employees

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go in and check dedicated shelves or sections of the supermarket.

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But I've got to the conclusion

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that it's partially customer responsibility,

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it's partially me having to just check these items to make sure that

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my health is not at risk because of something that someone else has done.

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Well, as we've seen, making sure that the food that we eat

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doesn't do us any harm can be a tough job.

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But we can all do our bit to support the work of the councils

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and food agencies by alerting them to any unhygienic practices we come across.

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They can't take away all the risks entirely,

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but they are really committed to getting it right.

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And I think it was fantastic to see first-hand

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the work that is being done, as well as getting an insight

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into exactly what sort of improvements are needed

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in places that have not met the right hygiene standards.

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But, of course, don't forget that we're just as interested

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as the authorities in things don't come up to scratch,

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so please do tell us, as well.

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And that goes for issues around anything

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that you spend your money on - not just food.

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Because we're seriously on the hunt right now for stories

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for other Rip-Off Britain programmes coming up.

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So it could be yours that we investigate next time.

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But for the moment, that's it,

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and from all of us here on the Rip-Off Britain team, bye-bye.

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-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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