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There's a lot we don't know about the food on our plates, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and the shops and the labels don't always tell you the whole story. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Sometimes there's just too many offers | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
and when you actually look at them, you're not really saving that much. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Whether you're staying in or going out, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
you've told us you can feel ripped off by the promises made | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
for what you eat, and what you pay for it. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
If you buy six, it's cheaper. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
But I don't want to buy six, I want to buy one. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
From claims that don't stack up to the secrets behind the packaging, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
we'll uncover the truth about Britain's food | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
so that you can be sure you're getting what you expect | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
at the right price. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
Your food, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Hello and welcome once again to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
where, in this series, we're unwrapping the secrets | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
of the food and the drink that we consume every day. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Now, we know that different brands work their socks off to try to | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
convince us to buy their particular product, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
so we're here to cut through all that hype | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and try to ensure that when you spend your money, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
it's on the things that you really know you want. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
So with that in mind, we'll be looking a little bit | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
more closely into the bold claims which are made | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
for some everyday products to see if all of them really do stack up. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
And as we reveal the truth behind some of the labels themselves, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
you may end up feeling that not all things we'll be talking about, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
some of which, by the way, you may have bought yourselves, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
are necessarily quite what you thought they were. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
And along the way, we'll also be settling a concern | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
that many of you have already shared with us, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
not so much about the items that you buy in the supermarket | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
as the one that you've already got at home in your cupboards, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
and what you want to know is how long you should leave them there. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Well, we'll have an answer to that, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
as well as unpicking the secrets of some of the other food and drink | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
that you have, so that all you've got to do is enjoy them. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Coming up, the big-name brands boasting added protein. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
But is there really any need, or indeed, benefit? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
These products are not generated | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
to improve people's health, necessarily, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
they're generated to make companies money. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
And the storm in a teacup over the price of a speciality cuppa. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
Why should brews such as an Earl Grey cost you | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
more than a bog-standard builder's? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
I can understand if it was 5p more, but when it's 40p more, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
I think that's not fair. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
You know, there can't be very many of us | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
who don't know that protein is an essential part of our daily diets. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
But it isn't always easy to know exactly how much | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
you should be having to stay healthy, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
which is why you may have been drawn to a whole range of new products | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
that are springing up from big-name companies that appear to | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
make the whole thing easy | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
by adding extra protein to some very familiar brands. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
Now, that protein boost, however, can come at a price, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
so is it worth it? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
Well, some experts would say no, it's not, and that, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
far from being an innovative short cut to eating better, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
these protein-packed products are just a very clever | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
marketing gimmick and a way of getting us to spend money | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
on something that, well, frankly, most of us won't need. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
They're everyday foods, but not as we know them, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
because some of the UK's biggest brands have added a bit of muscle | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
to some of their best sellers. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Cereals like Weetabix and Shreddies, and even chocolate bars | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Mars and Snickers, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
have introduced versions of their products that are higher in protein. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
And watching these ads... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
It doesn't taste like a protein bar, it tastes like it should. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
19g of protein is the perfect amount. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
..you'd be forgiven for thinking that these new versions | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
of the products are the ideal accompaniment | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
to a healthy lifestyle. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
There are more than 640 muscles in your body. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
New Weetabix Protein helps grow and maintain them. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
No wonder, when faced with a choice between the traditional variety | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
or the one full of protein, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
most of the people we spoke to had no doubts over which they'd go for. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
If I had to choose one, I'd most likely choose this one, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
obviously because of the high levels of protein in it. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
I'd go for the protein one. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
-Yeah, I'd go for that. -So, I'd pick this one, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
because it's got less in fat and it's got more protein. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
The protein bandwagon set off back in the 1950s in California, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
when the body-builders of Muscle Beach started adding powder | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
made from soy beans into their diets to help build muscle. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
In 1972, the body-conscious reached for the nutrient once again... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
..as the low-carb, high-protein Atkins diet hit the shelves, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
with eating plans like Paleo and Dukan following suit in the 'noughties. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
But these new protein products, which in some cases | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
can cost a lot more than the standard varieties, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
aren't aimed just at those trying to gain muscle or lose weight. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
So now we're all being targeted, and why? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Well, of course, because it's big business. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
But how much protein do we actually need in our diet, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
and are these products a good way for us to get it? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Well, here's a man who should know. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
Dr Stuart Gray is a lecturer in exercise and metabolic health, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
and he's especially interested in how our bodies | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
are affected by the food we eat. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Protein's basically the building block of the body, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
so all our muscle tissue, all our organs, everything in the body, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
all the cells are composed of protein. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
So without protein, we wouldn't be here. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
So what happens if you don't get enough protein? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Lots of things would probably happen. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
The main one, you would lose muscle mass, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
and that puts you at risk of a number of medical conditions. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Because proteins, also in times of energy crisis, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
it can be converted to sugar and it can keep us fuelled. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
So you're more at risk of getting disease | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
and you're probably going to fare less well with it - | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
you're less robust, less resilient in coping with it. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
The recommended daily intake of protein for adults is around | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
55g per day, give or take a few grammes, depending on your age. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
So I wanted to know how much I'm getting, and whether, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
with all these protein-busting foods hitting the supermarket aisles, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
I should be using them to supplement my intake. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
So I've kept a diary of my diet for a week | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
and Dr Gray is taking a look. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
You consumed about 70g of protein on average per day. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
So that was enough? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
That is more than the current recommendations, yeah. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
But, I mean, looking at all of the new protein products | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
that are available on the market, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
would any of those actually give me a boost? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
The evidence would suggest no. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
There's some evidence that, if you were doing a lot of exercise, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
you may require some extra protein | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and you may get a very small benefit, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
but it would probably not be anything you would really notice. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
And it seems the same is likely to be true for most of us. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
Research suggests that in the UK, almost everyone gets | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
more than enough protein through their everyday diets and in fact, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
men get, on average, over 50% more than they need. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
All of which raises the question of what point there is in buying | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
a protein-enhanced chocolate bar or box of cereal in the first place? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But according to food marketing expert Phillip Adcock, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
the answer to that is simple - | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
manufacturers know that any hint of a connection | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
to a healthier lifestyle can be enough for us | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
to pop a product in our supermarket trolleys. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
There's lots of positive associations with the word protein. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
So, as the lazy brains we all have and are, then we will think by, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
"Oh, that's got protein, I can do less exercise." | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
So what we're always looking for is a short cut to a healthy lifestyle, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
and by putting a protein badge on, we will buy something. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
Whether that's 0.01% healthier or 40% healthier, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
we just see it as slightly healthier, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
so it's the indulgence alibi. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
But we, as shoppers and consumers, need to understand | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
what protein we need and whether we need to go and get | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
some more or not because at the moment, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
we're paying a lot more money for a little bit more protein. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
We took a closer look at two of the best-known brands | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
that have added protein to their products. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
First, Weetabix. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
On the day we checked, a regular pack of 24 cost £2.50 | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
from a leading supermarket, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
and two biscuits would give you 4.5g of protein. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
But at the same store, you would pay £3 for the Weetabix | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
that comes with the added extra, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
and with two of those biscuits containing 7.6g of protein, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
it works out at 1.3p extra per gram. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
But you could just as easily add the same amount of protein to your | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
usual Weetabix by pouring on an extra 100ml of milk. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
In fact, the white stuff contains all the protein we need | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
in our diets, although using it as the only source | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
isn't recommended for adults, who need a varied diet. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
Another product that's received nutritional enhancement | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
is a Snickers bar. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
A normal one, typically costing around 65p, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
contains 4.5g of protein. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
But a bar of the similar-sized protein version | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
has almost four times that amount, a full 18g, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
as well as fewer calories, fat and sugar. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
But that extra kick comes at almost four times the cost, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
because we found this bar for sale online for £2.40. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
And while there are some who would consider it worth every penny, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
others, like Dr Gray, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
would say that's a lot extra to pay for something that isn't necessarily | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
as healthy as you might hope. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
The fact that a lot of these products are packaged up | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
with other things, like sugar and saturated fat, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
it's not going to be an overall very good addition | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
to people's diet, really. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
Do you think that they're, sort of, masking the fact, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
in their own commercial terms? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
So the fact that, all right, 18g of protein in a Snickers bar, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
but because of all the sugar and fat that's in there as well, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
it's almost cancelling out the health benefit. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
It is, yeah, yeah. So even if you do have a protein requirement | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
where you did need protein, getting it alongside that fat | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
can interfere with a lot of these processes as well, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
so actually, we may well be losing the benefits of the protein, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
as you say, by adding all this other stuff in. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
So, I mean, you're a scientist, so what would your advice be | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
in terms of our protein intake and how we should be getting it? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
So, for me, ideally, if you can, get it from your diet. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
There's a lot of sources in the diet, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
the beans, the pulses, the meat, cereals, breads also. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
But you can see how the packaging could make you think that these bars | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
have a health benefit, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
as I saw for myself when I met some of the members at this Glasgow gym. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
If you were to see Shreddies Max Protein and Snickers Protein, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
would you be tempted, do you think, to buy them? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
I'd probably pick that up rather than the normal brand | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
that doesn't say protein, yeah. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Just because they've advertised protein, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
it sort of draws your eye to it | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
and makes you believe it's better for you. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
So, what do you think about the companies | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
who are pushing the protein? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
They're just trying to sell their products, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
because they know people are health-conscious | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
and they're just putting protein on stuff and saying, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
"People will just buy it." | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
And that's a sentiment Dr Gray heartily agrees with. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
These products are not generated | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
to improve people's health, necessarily, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
they're generated to make companies money. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
If there's a market there and people are willing to buy these products, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
a company will fill that slot in the market and sell these products. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Well, we put all of this to the manufacturers | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
of the products that we looked at. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Nestle, which makes Shreddies Max Granola, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
told us that nowhere on the pack does the product claim to be | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
high in protein, although it does contain enough protein | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
to legally be called a source of protein. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
It said that the cereal is high in fibre and low in saturated fat | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
and is a simple way for granola lovers | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
to add more protein to their diet. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Weetabix told us that its product provides 20% | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
of an adult's recommended daily amount of protein | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
for those who are keen to boost their intake. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
And it said that, just like other products with added extras, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
the cost of the increased protein level of Weetabix Protein | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
is reflected in the slightly higher price of the product. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
As for the £2.40 price tag we found online | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
for a Mars or Snickers Protein bar, manufacturers Mars told us that | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
while pricing is at the retailer's discretion, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
its recommended retail price is in line with | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
other protein-rich products. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Mars also said that these bars tap into a strong consumer trend and | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
offer the nutritional profile that you would expect | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
from a traditional post-workout protein bar. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Well, you'd expect the manufacturers to make a spirited defence | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
of these products and of course, there's certainly no problem | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
in eating them if you're happy to shell out the extra money to do so. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
But if you're doing it purely because you think | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
there's going to be a benefit for your health, well, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
it's really not that simple. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
And if you think you do need it, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
there may well be better and cheaper ways | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
to get that extra protein boost. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
what's to be done with those dusty old bottles of alcohol | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
at the back of your cupboard? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
Rather than waste them, we'll see if, once past their best, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
they are still OK to drink. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
When we try it, if it's good, we drink it. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
If it isn't, it goes down the plughole. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Now, a good old-fashioned cup of tea | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
has long been a very British tradition. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Ever since the drink hit our shores in the 17th century | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
we've embraced it, and of course, it has very calming qualities. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
What problem isn't made better by a nice hot cuppa? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
But these days we're spoilt for choice, with an array of white, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
green and black leaves that promise to do much more than just | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
calm the nerves. There are teas that claim to aid weight loss, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
boost your immune system and even, apparently, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
reduce your risk of a stroke. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Very bold claims indeed. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
And to top it off, many speciality teas cost more than your typical | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
English Breakfast, which has led one viewer to get in touch to ask | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
what exactly she's getting to justify paying extra. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Peppermint tea, Earl Grey, infused and good old Breakfast, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
just a few of the brews from around the world on sale in Britain today. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Now you can buy them loose or in square, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
round or even pyramid-shaped bags. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
Such is our thirst for tea that the industry is now worth an estimated | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
£620 million, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
and it seems that we all have a preference for how we like it. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
My perfect cup of tea is strong, two tea bags in it, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
and, erm, hot and, erm, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
quite a bit of milk in it, in a china cup. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Well, I drink Assam tea. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
But I only have two cups of tea a day. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
I have decaf because of my problem with caffeine | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
giving me palpitations. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
My perfect cup of tea would be just a classic mug of tea, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
just flavoured with tea, nothing else, no other flavours. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
Michael and Angela Brown from Ketton in Cambridgeshire | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
have very different tastes in how they take theirs. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I like British tea, or English tea, as we call it, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
whereas my wife would normally prefer Earl Grey. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I don't particularly like the tea that Mick drinks. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Never liked it, and I can't bear any kind of tea with milk in it. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
That's just horrible. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
But however much they disagree on which type of tea | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
makes the best drink, they do have one thing in common. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
When I get up in the morning, the first thing is a cup of tea. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-Oh, I'd have to agree with that. -Before I've had breakfast | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-or anything like that, a cup of tea. -Mm. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
But Michael and Angela don't confine their tea-drinking | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
just to their house. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Good afternoon. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
We'd like some tea, please. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Now that they're semi-retired, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
they often pop into a cafe for a good old cuppa. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
One builder's tea, one Earl Grey. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
But unlike in this cafe that has the same price | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
for the different teas, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
they often find that Angela's beloved Earl Grey can cost more. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
-There we are. -Oh, that's lovely. Thank you. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
When we go out to a cafe and my wife drinks Earl Grey tea, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
it can cost up to 40p more for a drink, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and I don't think that's fair. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
I think that's far too much. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
Particularly as when they buy Earl Grey to drink at home, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
the price difference is nowhere near as much. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
It's, on average, about 2-3p per tea bag | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
more expensive than ordinary tea. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
But when we go to a cafe | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
it can be up to 40p and I don't understand why. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
I could understand if it was 5p more | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
but when it is 40p more, then I think that's not fair. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
Well, to see if the couple's experience is true across the board, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
we took a closer look at what you might pay for different teas | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
when you're out and about. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
Now, we checked the prices at 42 independent cafes, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
comparing the cost of a traditional English Breakfast tea with the price | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
of Earl Grey, mint, camomile, fruit and green tea. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
More than half, 22 of the cafes, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
charged the same price for all types of teas, but on 20 menus | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
we found higher prices for speciality teas, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
with some charging up to 70p more. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
This looks like the place. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
So, keen to see if there is a justifiable explanation | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
for such price discrepancies, Michael and Angela have come to meet | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Ajit Madan, a tea sommelier. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
When you buy English Breakfast, for example, versus Earl Grey, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
the Earl Grey tends to be a bit more expensive, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
and it's usually attributed to the fact that they add | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
oil of bergamot, which is an essential oil, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and it's actually quite an expensive additive to put into tea. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
So you're adding an extra layer of cost into the Earl Grey | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
that you don't have with the English Breakfast. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Bergamot oil costs around £7 per 10ml | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
and a decent blend of Earl Grey tea contains up to 4% of it. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Now, that may sound like a small amount, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
but as it's an expensive addition, it explains why some teas cost more. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
But Michael doesn't think that explains | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
those price hikes in some cafes. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
I know when we buy it at home the difference in the price isn't great, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
but when we go to a cafe, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
we find the difference is quite considerable. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
When you go to cafes, you know, particularly the nicer ones, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
a bit like the nice sort of tea houses, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
they would probably pride themselves in saying, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
"Look, the Earl Grey that we're serving you | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
"is a higher grade Earl Grey." | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
Generally speaking, if you compare a kind of speciality leaf | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
versus the type of tea that you might find in a mass-market brand, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
and if you compare the size of the tea leaf, for example, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
the mass-market tea brand might be almost sort of dust-like | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
in the size of its... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
of the tea leaf, compared to a speciality tea, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
which can range from anything from this size of the tea leaf | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
down to that sort of size. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
And those tend to generate more sophisticated flavours. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
And people are willing to pay a premium for that. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Another factor that can push the price up is where the tea is grown. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
Now, it's widely believed that the finest tea | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
comes from the highest altitudes, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
where it's picked very carefully by hand. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
So in the cafes, the general cafes and that, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
do you think it's right that there should be such a large mark-up | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
for speciality teas? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
I think if you're going to a tea house or a coffee shop or a cafe | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
and you're ordering a nice cup of speciality tea, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
I think it is justified that you pay more for that type of tea, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
which is more expensive for the cafe to buy. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Well, it seems that Ajit at least is convinced that | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
when it does come to a good cup of Rosie, you do get what you pay for. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
But do our tea-loving duo agree? | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Armed with the expert's advice, will they now be happier | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
spending a little more on Angela's brew of choice? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
I will still buy Earl Grey but I think I'm going to be changing | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
the brand that I normally buy. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
If they served better quality speciality teas, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
then the extra cost would be justified. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
Big relief - it seems Michael and Angela's faith | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
in their beloved cuppa has been restored. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
But of course, the choice of tea available | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
doesn't stop at Earl Grey, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:29 | |
so later on in the programme, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
we'll be investigating whether some of the bold claims made by | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
some speciality teas are worth paying extra for. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
There's teas that maybe even say they can provide you extra energy, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
extra zip, and what we would say is | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
clinically, there is very little evidence to say | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
that any of these claims can be substantiated. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Now, here's a sobering thought. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
According to the figures, most adults in the UK | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
will spend over £300 per year on alcohol and almost | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
half of that is consumed at home. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Now, even though much of that is drunk straight away, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
some will be kept a lot longer. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
A half-finished bottle of sherry, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
gathering dust in the back of the cupboard, say, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
or what about the bottle of bubbly we've been saving | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
for a special occasion? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
But unlike the food we eat, it isn't quite so easy to know | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
if those long-forgotten drinks have gone past their best. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
There's rarely a sell-by date, except on beer, and after all, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
some drinks are actually said to improve with age. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
So, when you asked us the question, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
"Is it still OK to drink from a long-neglected bottle?" | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
we decided to investigate, and we found just the couple to help us. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
It looks like an unassuming suburban house in Devon. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
But step inside and it's a very different story. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Tucked away in the home of Simon and Donna Randall | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
is a fully working bar. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
The extension started '98, '99, something like that, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and actually finished it about two and a half years ago | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and it's been a work in progress ever since. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
It's what I would consider a proper pub. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
We decided to create it like this | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
because it is a style that we do like. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
It's very much almost like a museum as well, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
collecting the old things that we remember from younger days. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
Now of course, as these aren't licensed premises, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
the bar is only open to friends and relatives, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and because Simon doesn't sell his drinks, unsurprisingly, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
those friends and relatives | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
don't need much persuasion to come and visit. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Have one of those. A fine pint of that. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
We will see what we can do, young sir. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Love it, yeah. It's got all the...all the elements | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
that you don't get in the bars in town. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
You can hear yourself think, you can speak to people, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
you can play pool. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
It's just a fabulous atmosphere. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
We have a good time when we come here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Have to leave whenever we leave but it's never early, normally. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Please help yourself to a gin and tonic. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
The Randalls' shelves are stocked with a mixture of drinks they have | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
either bought themselves or that friends have donated. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
And with the bar nearly 20 years in the making, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
it's a fact that quite a few of these bottles | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
have been around some time. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Remember this one I got you? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:26 | |
-That one there. -'89, when I went to Tenerife, that one. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
This was the first year Donna and I met. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Donna brought me that back as a present. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
She didn't know my drinking habits at the time, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
so it was a bottle of tequila, which is... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-Yeah, it's very good. -This one here, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
this Tia Maria has actually been open for many, many years. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:46 | |
Erm, not quite sure but certainly I would have probably said | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
getting on for at least five, five years old. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
Martini, I think probably every bar and home bar has various bottles | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
of Martini that somebody comes to a party, drops off, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
origin unknown, and this is just one of several we've actually got. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
In the UK, we throw away the equivalent of 624 million | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
bottles of wine a year, but not Simon and Donna. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Their vintage specimens are just left on the shelf. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
In fact, they've a whole wine rack full of them. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
So, here's our wine collection. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
That's an interesting one. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
'93, it's got on the back of the label. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
And then we're into some ales. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
And there is a good old Cornish tribute. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
Looking at the bottom of that one, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
that was at its best before 3rd July '14, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
so that's two and a half years out of date. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
With every bottle worth between a couple of pounds to over £100, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
they're worried about the money they're wasting | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
as the booze goes past its best. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
But equally, they're anxious about | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
allowing their friends to consume it. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
If it's the spirits and that sort of stuff, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
then if somebody wants to try it, they can. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
But if there's something that's, you know, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
an out-of-date cider or something, to be fair, no, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
we wouldn't and we don't. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
You too may well have worried if it's still safe to drink the bottles | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
lingering in your own cupboard, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
though chances are you won't have quite so many as Simon and Donna. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
So the question is, are they right to be wary, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
and which drinks are most likely to deteriorate | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
if you keep them too long? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
Well, the usual labelling rules just don't apply to any drinks | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
which are over 10% alcohol because if they stay unopened, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
they are unlikely to be harmful. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
That puts almost all unopened bottles of spirits | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
into the category of still safe to drink. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
And the same is true of most wines, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
which are typically between 11% and 14% in volume. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Below 10%, the contents are unlikely to make anyone ill, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
but the taste could be affected. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
So, the best before date is just that - | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
a guide to when the drink will be at its prime. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Professor Anthony Hilton is a microbiologist at Aston University. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
He's been studying food and drink safety for nearly 30 years. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Alcohol is a natural preservative, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
but it's very much dependent on the concentration. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
So, the types of concentration that for example you get | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
in alcohol hand gels is around 68% to 70%, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and at that level it will kill bacteria. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
At about 40%, which is where you would have things like vodka, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
whisky, things like that, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
it isn't really enough to have a killing effect, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
but it will preserve that liquid. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
So pure distilled vodka at 40% is unlikely to go off at all. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
However, over time, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
even strong spirits like vodka can develop a taint. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
So when some producers recommend consuming within three years, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
it's because after that time | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
distillers can't guarantee it will taste the same as it originally did, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
though it's unlikely to harm you. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
And, for the reasons we've already heard, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
the professor is equally relaxed about wine - | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
until, that is, it's been opened. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Wines can store for a long period of time and mature | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
over that time and they don't go off. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
It's just that when the cork is removed | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
and contamination from the air, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
bacteria that might be in your kitchen, for example, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
they will find their way into the bottle of the neck | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
and drop into the wine. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Then they use that as a nutrient sauce and they start to grow, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
and that's really the problem. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
And indeed, if you open a bottle of wine and you leave it open | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
to the atmosphere for maybe a week and then you taste the wine again, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
it will have started to take on a more vinegary characteristic. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
As for beer, the amount of alcohol | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
is usually under that magic number of 10%, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
which means a bottle or can will usually have a best before date. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
So, the alcoholic content of beer is somewhere from about 3% | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
maybe up to a strong ale, about 9%. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
And at that level of concentration of alcohol, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
it's insufficient to inhibit bacterial growth. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
And if you leave a pint of beer out, bacteria will get in there, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
so beer will spoil. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
But unopened, even after that best before date has passed, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
those leftover Christmas beers hidden at the back of the cupboard | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
should still be safe to crack open on a hot summer's day, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
although they might not taste quite as good. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
I think other than the taste, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
I don't think there's any real risk in drinking beer | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
that tastes like it's gone a bit off. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Well, if that's a reassuring message | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
for most of the contents of your cupboard, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
Simon and Donna are keen to take a closer look at some of | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
the tipples they fear have been festering too long on their shelves, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
so they've come to a bar in Bristol where head bartender Chelsea | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
has some ideas for putting out-of-date drinks to good use, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
though she'd never serve them to paying customers. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -But before she gets creative, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
she wants to know if our amateur bartenders can tell any difference | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
between what's in some of their old bottles | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
and brand-new similar products. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
If it's only the taste that risks being an issue rather than safety, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
is there really enough of a change to worry about? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
With three drinks to sample, let the tipple taste test begin. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
The first one is the ale | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
that's been out of date for nearly three years. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
We're comparing it to a very similar ale. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
Strange taste, but it's not unpleasant. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
-That's proper. -OK, guys, you're absolutely spot on. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
After a few years, it starts to get a kind of sherry nose. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
I think the one on the left has not got the kick as much, I don't feel. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
No, I'm still sticking with right being the old one. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
OK, you were actually right on this one. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Our final one, which is the red wine. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
-That one. -Definitely. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Yeah, you're both absolutely right. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
For me, when I opened the bottle and I smelt the cork, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
I got a vinegar taste straight away. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Well, with two out of the three drinks, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Simon and Donna correctly identified which was the older version | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
and which was the fresher one. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
Only with the Tia Maria did Donna fail to get it right. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
With the wine, they were probably helped along | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
with that vinegary smell Chelsea described, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
a telltale sign that a chemical reaction occurred | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
while it was sitting in their wine rack. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
Storing wine for long periods runs the risk of oxidisation, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
a process that turns cheap wine into expensive vinegar. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
This can happen to any wine, whatever the price, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
as not all improve with age. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
But again, if you can swallow the deterioration in flavour, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
drinking it shouldn't cause any problems. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
As for the other two, well, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
Simon and Donna would still quite happily drink them. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
The real ale, I thought for a drink that was so out of its use-by date, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
I was really surprised that it was a really palatable drink. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Yes, it was very different, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
but it was still a drink that you could enjoy. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
In fact, some alcoholic drinks remain so quaffable | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
beyond their best before date that there are companies | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
who've been able to turn that to their advantage. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Around the UK, warehouses like this one sell them | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
at discounted prices among a range of products that normal shops | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
won't touch because they're past their best. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
Dan Cluderay's website, Approved Food, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
sells all manner of discounted groceries, including alcohol, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
which he knows plenty of customers will happily buy at a cheaper price. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
The difference between best before dates and use-by dates is that | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
best before is the guide to the optimum quality of the product. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Use-by dates, now, they are there for health and safety reasons, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
so you'll find those things like chicken, meat and fish. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Best before dates you'll find in your cupboards - | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
it's tins, jars and things like packets. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
Although it's an offence to sell food and drink | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
that's passed its use-by date, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
selling products that are past their best before date | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
is perfectly legal, with the important exception of eggs. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
And Dan says consumers can make particularly big savings on drinks. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
It's absolutely fine. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
Now, you know, there are examples of where, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
I'm sure if you left a can of beer for years and years | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
it wouldn't look right, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
but that comes down to the actual common sense - | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
is it blown? But often, open the can of beer, see if it looks right, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
smells right, tastes right, it'll be absolutely fine. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Meanwhile, back at the bar, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
mixologist Chelsea agrees we don't have to waste our past-it bottles | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
by pouring them down the drain. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
In fact, as she's about to show Simon and Donna, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
you could save money by creating an entirely new, fresh-tasting drink. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
Judging by the wonderful label on the back, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
I'm assuming it's from the '80s, potentially. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
So, one of the fun things I like to do is to make a fruit cup, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
commonly known as Pimm's. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:44 | |
So, we're going to start by doing a shot... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
..of Martini Rosso. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
And then we're going to do a shot of gin with it. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
And to the gin, Chelsea adds orange liqueur, lemon juice | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
and fresh oranges. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
There you go, guys. See what you think of that. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Oh, that is lovely. Very nice. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
-Oh, yes. -You can certainly taste the Martini. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Another tip for keeping your bottles tasting their best a little longer | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
is to store them in a dark place away from direct sunlight and heat, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
perhaps, if you're lucky, like Simon and Donna, in your own bar, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
where from now on they will feel a lot more confident | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
about testing those long-neglected drinks. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
The reality is, a lot of alcohol gets better with age | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
and a lot doesn't, so I'll taste it and decide. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
When we try it, if it's good, we drink it. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
If it isn't, it goes down the plughole. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
Earlier in the programme, we heard how Angela and Michael Brown | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
were left rather strained by the price of speciality teas | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
when they're out and about. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
When we go out to a cafe, my wife drinks Earl Grey tea. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
It can cost up to 40p more | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
and I think that's far too much. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
But a tea sommelier told us | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
there are very good reasons why fancier cups | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
can be just that little bit pricier. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
When you go to cafes, when you're drinking their Earl Grey, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
they would probably pride themselves and say, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
"Look, the Earl Grey we're serving you is a higher grade Earl Grey." | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
But of course, the choice of speciality teas | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
doesn't stop at Earl Grey. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
Alongside the classics are plenty of new brews in the pot. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
In fact, at one supermarket, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
we found over 200 different teas on offer, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
and even popular brands have jumped on the bandwagon. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
-Tough day? -Yes. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Then I've got just the thing. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
Delicious fruit-flavoured Tetley super tea. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
There are teas that claim to detoxify you, slim you down, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
clear your skin and help you get a good night's sleep. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
So, to gauge the appeal of such powerful brews... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
It's organic, sleep easy infusion. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
..we've laid out a few popular brands | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
to see what people make of them. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, these are supposed to support your immune system. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
I doubt it. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Peppermint and spearmint. So... | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Yeah, that's supposed to be good for the digestive system, isn't it? | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Yeah. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Turmeric is the latest good food, isn't it, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
to have, to add to your food? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Turmeric. I might try it, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
but I'm not into really different teas. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
Peppermint and spearmint. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Wonderful ingredients. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
That I do fancy. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
"Spruce up your insides." | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
It's not going to do that, is it, really? | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Spruce up your insides. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
So, a mixed reaction from that crowd, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
but it seems that many of us are falling for the hype, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
and branding expert David Whittle can understand why. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Consumers were looking for a different type of tea experience. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
They are drinking less and less black tea | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
but looking for an alternative, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
and looking for a healthier alternative as well, hence the... | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
..the growth in speciality teas. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
And also, our trends are changing as well. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
We're looking for more exotic experiences | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
as we experience different flavours across different food types. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
That has an impact on tea-drinking as well, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
and you will be happy to pay a premium for that. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
Compared to your average cuppa, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
we found speciality teas that cost over 30 times more per bag. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
But you can still find some bargains, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
especially if you hunt around stores' own brands. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Aldi's own label fruit and herb tea, which costs 79p for 40 bags, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
has been crowned best own brand in the UK, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
beating pricier blends that cost much more. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Master of teas Ajit Madan has developed blends | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
that claim to aid sleep, clear your skin, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and even induce happiness. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
He wholeheartedly believes that certain blends | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
offer more than good value. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
There are certain teas that are meant to be good for helping you | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
to slim down, to lose weight, to increase your metabolism, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
and there are also certain teas | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
which are really good for digestion and helping with bowel issues. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
White and green tea has very high levels of antioxidants, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
so, you know, teas - in combination with a good healthy diet - | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
can be really, really good for you. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
It's not a substitute for mainstream medicine at all, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
but it can complement your health. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
So what does mainstream medicine make of the claims? | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Well, GP Aisha Sharif isn't sure that they stack up. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
There are teas out there that claim they can detox you, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
they can boost your immune system, they can help with your sleep, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
and I think there's teas that maybe even say | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
they can provide you extra energy, extra zip. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
And what we would say is clinically, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
there is very little evidence to say that any of these claims | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
can be substantiated. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
In the NHS, none of us are really recommending | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
people go out and have a particular type of tea | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
for a particular health condition. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
That's not something that we're recommending. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
Teas that claim to work as a detox | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
are a particular bugbear for Dr Sharif. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
They're part of the multi-million pound detox industry | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
that many health care professionals are sceptical about. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
I think this is something that we see a lot in GP practices - | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
detox, and what does it mean? It means nothing. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
If you have kidneys, if you have a liver, it's doing a job, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
and you don't need a tea to help get rid of waste products. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
If anything, this tea has dandelion, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and we do know that dandelion is a weak diuretic - | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
it helps push out fluid from the kidneys - | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
so it's just going to make you wee bit faster, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
you may be having some trips to the toilet, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
but I don't think it's going to do much more than that. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Dr Sharif isn't convinced that any of the ingredients | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
come in an amount that justifies the extra spend. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
There's a sleep tea here, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
and I think one of the ingredients that this tea has, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
along with cinnamon and some camomile, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
I think it has valerian root. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Valerian may in some cases make you feel more sleepy | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
and assist if you have some sleep difficulties, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
but it's only 5%, so it's very, very weak, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and whether that would actually make you fall asleep, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I would be sceptical about that. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
Well, when we contacted the companies behind these teas, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
Yogi - who have many speciality teas in its range, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
including the detox tea - didn't comment. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Dr Stuart's has robustly rejected any criticism | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and also said the line "spruce up your insides", | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
used on some of the packaging, was intended to be humorous. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
Clipper told us that its sleep easy blend contains | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
naturally calming herbal ingredients | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
which can help promote relaxation, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and it went on to say that it always recommends | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
that people suffering from severe sleep problems | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
or sleep disorders seek professional medical advice. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Diet-Tee said that it only uses the finest ingredients, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
many of which have been used traditionally | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
in the natural herbal remedy industry for hundreds of years. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
But while brews that come with apparent health benefits | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
clearly are not Dr Sharif's cup of tea, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
she wouldn't put anyone off drinking them | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
but prefers if you stir in a soupcon of scepticism. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
If you enjoy the taste of a tea | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
and if it makes you feel a certain way, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
if it makes you feel calm or if it does help you | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
as part of your routine to fall asleep, I don't see a problem. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
I do feel that if you believe that you need to drink or buy a tea | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
to boost your immune system, there's no such thing, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
and really, you could save and spend your money in better places. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Well, I'm afraid that's where we have to leave it for today. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Thanks as always to all of you that got in touch with various queries | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
that sparked off some of our investigations. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Now, it's only because of your concerns and experiences | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
that we are able to reveal all kinds of truth about the claims made | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
for some of the most popular food and drink that we all buy. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
Well, let's hope the tips we've heard about today | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
will help you go through your own shopping list | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
with extra confidence. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
And remember, we are always keen to hear about new ways | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
to help us all bag a bargain, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
so if you've got any advice you'd like to pass on, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
please do get in touch. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:43 | |
Because we've got plenty of Rip-Off Britain programmes | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
coming up over the next few months, and who knows? | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
It could be your story that we feature in one of those programmes. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Or as Julia says, not just the story but also your advice, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
your nuggets of advice. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
But in the meantime, from all of us today, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
I'm afraid that's where we have to say goodbye. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
But do come and join us the next time we are here | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
-with Rip-Off Britain, and until then, goodbye. -Goodbye. -Bye. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 |