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We asked you, who has left you feeling ripped off

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when it comes to your holidays?

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And you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters.

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A holiday is supposed to be a time of relaxing,

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not a time of more stress,

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and certainly not a time of stress whilst you're away.

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It's just annoying that you think, "What next?

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"What are they going to put a charge on next?"

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So, whether it is a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake,

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or a catch in the small print,

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we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money.

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This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Rip-Off Britain

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from the island of Tenerife,

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where we're investigating what's gone wrong with your holidays.

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Well, like millions of people every year,

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we, of course, flew to get here,

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but we know from all your e-mails and letters

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that it isn't always plain sailing when you take to the skies.

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Anything but, in fact.

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Today, we're going to be hearing some really very good reasons

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why even the most seasoned travellers amongst us

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can, from time to time, get into a bit of a flap about flying.

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And, of course, that means we're going to have

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everything you need to know to make sure that the same problems

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aren't going to happen to you.

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So, whether you've fallen foul of an airline's particular policies,

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or perhaps you just hate the idea of being 35,000 feet up in the air,

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we'll have some useful advice for you,

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so the next time you're on a flight,

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your mood and your temper can at least stay firmly grounded.

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Coming up, the parents separated from their children on flights

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despite paying a premium to guarantee they would sit together.

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It was really dreadful as a mum

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to not be with your children

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and to be able to, like, protect them and look after them.

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Jake, he's only two years old.

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Him being with strangers on that flight, it was really horrible.

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And a last-ditch attempt to cure a long held fear of flying,

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but does it really work?

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I just need to get onto the plane now,

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cos we've been now talking about it since this morning.

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I just need to go and do it now.

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You know, flying with children is probably not most people's idea

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of a relaxing start to their holiday.

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For passengers travelling without kids, sitting next to, behind,

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or even worse, in front of someone else's little darling,

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can make a long flight seem even longer.

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And of course, for the parents,

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keeping the young ones still and quiet for hours on end

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is quite a challenge.

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And things can be even more stressful still

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if a family can't sit together, which can and does happen.

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In fact, many airlines now suggest

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that the only way to guarantee sitting next to your own children

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is to pay in advance to reserve seats together.

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But, you know, that's really not necessary.

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Visitor numbers may have dipped in the wake of terror attacks

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and other headline-grabbing events,

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but Turkey remains a firm favourite with British holiday-makers,

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most of them coming for its beautiful coast and beaches.

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Among those to go there last summer

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were Kim Robinson and her husband, Steve.

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They have to be pretty organised when they travel,

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as they've got four children, ranging in ages between two and 14.

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We have been on holiday once before with the children,

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and booking the flights and the seats,

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it's a bit of a military operation, really, ensuring that...

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everything runs smoothly,

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that the children are sat with myself and my husband,

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and everything's organised, ready to go.

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Wow...!

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Kim booked the family's trip to Turkey five months in advance

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with holiday company Thomson.

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And, on top of the cost of the flights,

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she paid an additional fee of ?95

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to be sure the family could all sit next to one another

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on both legs of the journey.

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We went away about four, five years ago,

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and we paid to book our seats then,

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and we found it just made the whole process much less stressful,

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because as well, we have our youngest child as well now,

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who's only two,

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and because of Emily needing somebody with her,

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we'd felt it would just be a lot less hassle to sit together.

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But when it came to choosing their seats online,

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Kim was dismayed to discover that she could only select seats

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for the flight out, and not the return.

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It seemed really odd that online we could visually select our seats,

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and it gave us our seat numbers,

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and we could do all of that for the flight out to Turkey,

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but when I noticed that there was no flight chartered back from Turkey,

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it seemed really confusing,

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and nobody seemed to be able to tell us why.

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Thomson eventually explained that this was because

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they'd be flying back with a different company,

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the Turkish-owned Pegasus Airlines.

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So the family would need to contact Pegasus

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in order to confirm their seat bookings for the journey home.

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My husband had tried to contact Pegasus directly,

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but there was quite a serious language barrier,

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and so he then rang Thomson and explained

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that we couldn't physically speak to Pegasus

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and it was something that they would have to do.

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We'd paid them the money to reserve the seats,

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and it was up to them to kind of ensure we could do that.

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PHONE RINGS

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After more phone calls and visits to their local Thomson branch,

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the company rang the couple back, and told them that,

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though they couldn't choose their Pegasus seats in advance,

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they would be able to sit together.

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The fact that we'd actually paid to select our seats was irritating,

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but I was willing to accept that I couldn't select my seats

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on the basis, that as a family, we would be sat together.

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Reassured by this, the family thought little more about it

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until the end of their holiday, that is,

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when the time came for them to check in

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for their Pegasus return flight at Dalaman Airport.

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When they were issued with their actual seat reservations,

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their worst fears were realised.

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It became very clear that we were sat not even near each other,

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we were sat at complete opposite ends of the aircraft.

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And so, at this point, my husband became very distressed and he said,

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"There is no way we're getting on that plane

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"unless we are sat together."

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The airport staff assured them

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that the issue would be sorted out on the plane.

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However, when they boarded,

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they were told to sit in their allocated seats by the stewards.

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In a crowded plane and with their children dotted across it,

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the couple were powerless to do anything

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while people continued to cram onto the aircraft.

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I was actually sat in that seat in tears,

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and I couldn't understand that, as a 32-year-old mother of four,

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I was sat crying, and nobody was willing to help me.

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I worried about all the children on the plane,

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but predominantly Jake and Emily.

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Jake, because he's only two years old,

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him being with strangers on that flight was quite a concern of mine.

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And Emily, she was tired and I wasn't sure how she would react

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being around strangers, and on the flight,

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she was quite worried about taking off and landing as well,

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so it was really dreadful, as a mum, to not be with your children

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and to be able to protect them and look after them on that flight.

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It was... It was really horrible.

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Finally, Kim's husband, Steve, stood up

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and tried to explain the situation to the flight attendants.

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But when they seemed unwilling to help,

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Steve had to resort to asking if any of their fellow passengers

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would be willing to swap their seats.

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Luckily, three strangers on board did volunteer to help,

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so the younger children at least wouldn't be left alone.

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Three people in front very kindly moved,

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so we could move forward and I could sit with Jake and Ollie on takeoff,

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and then after that we moved around a bit

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so we could both take it in turns to sit with Jake,

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while having Ollie and Alfie near us

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and Emily just a bit further down the plane in front,

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but she could swap if needed.

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The relief was immense, cos I could at least see my children

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and I could hold Ollie's hand and be with Jake.

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That was a relief.

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But I still felt bad that I'd asked somebody on their holiday,

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coming back from their holiday, to move.

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I felt bad that they'd had to move.

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Um, I felt absolutely desolate that nobody had helped me,

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that none of the air stewardesses,

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air stewards or anything had offered to intervene or help

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or do anything at all.

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Months after the incident, Kim and Steve remain upset at what happened,

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especially as the extra money they'd paid at the beginning

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was supposed to guarantee they could sit together.

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When I reflect back upon what happened,

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it still makes me more sad than angry,

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more upset that myself and my children and my husband

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were put in that position,

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that we'd paid for a service we didn't receive,

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that we didn't receive any satisfactory feedback

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for what happened.

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And it has put me off flying again.

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Well, when we contacted the airlines involved,

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Thomson told us it was really sorry to hear of the family's experience,

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and is looking into what happened with its partner airline...

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It reiterated that, as the return journey was not on its own airline,

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pre-booked seats weren't available,

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so it's refunded the seat selection fee the family paid.

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For its part, Pegasus Airlines insisted

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that, as the flight had been chartered by Thomson,

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all sales, ticketing and reservations

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were Thomson's responsibility.

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It went on to say that its charter flight seats

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are allocated during check-in according to availability,

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and that, as Kim and Steve were some of the last people to check in,

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staff offered them the best seats they could.

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It added that, once on board, as other passengers will also

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want to sit with the people in their group,

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all that cabin crew can do is politely speak to other guests

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and try to assist as best as possible,

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as they did on this occasion.

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Now, you might think it would be a no-brainer

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that young children are seated with their family on flights.

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But there's no legal requirement for that to happen.

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The Civil Aviation Authority says it should be the aim of airlines

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to put children close to their parents or guardians

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in order to ensure access,

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and passengers' safety in an emergency.

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However, it does also say -

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and this is a really useful fact to remember -

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that no plane is allowed to take off

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if a child is separated from an accompanying adult

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by more than one row.

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Even so, an increasing number of airlines

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now tell parents that the only way they can guarantee

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that they'll sit with their children is by paying extra

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to pre-book seats, and depending on the airline,

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that can cost anything between ?8 and ?65.

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But, as Kim's experience shows,

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even then you might not get what you paid for.

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But our resident travel expert, Simon Calder,

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feels very strongly about this issue,

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and says passengers should be confident of their rights

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when booking flights as a family.

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Airlines know full well

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that they have to sit families in close proximity.

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Any airline that pretends that it can't do, that it won't do,

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that you have to pay, is frankly telling porkies.

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They must make sure that parents and children

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are sat close to each other,

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and the plane isn't going anywhere until they do.

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Our travel expert, Simon Calder,

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has all the secrets to save you money on your travels.

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He's full of tips on everything from how to avoid the crowds

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to the best way to steer clear of those tourist traps.

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CAMERA CLICKS

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Today, he's identifying once-in-a-lifetime trips

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that are perfect if money isn't an issue.

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Sometimes, you have to mark a big event -

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a wedding, an anniversary, a special birthday -

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with a big, no-expenses-spared trip.

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So what's the best choice when you want to splash out?

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Where can you get the biggest bang for your hard-earned bucks?

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I've got three very different options.

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Antarctica is the destination of choice

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for people who want to go to the very end of the earth.

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But to make your experience of the frozen continent truly memorable,

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plan wisely.

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Simon recommends choosing an expedition vessel

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with no more than 200 passengers.

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Most ships leave from Ushuaia, at the southern tip of Argentina,

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and it'll take two days of buffeting across the Drake Passage

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to reach Antarctica, as part of a ten-day expedition

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that typically costs from around ?4,000.

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But if all that sounds a bit too adventurous,

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then Simon has a more traditionally glamorous suggestion.

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The Venice-Simplon Orient Express is a collection of antique carriages

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that mostly shuttles between Calais and Venice via Paris.

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It has a connection from London which goes as far as Folkestone,

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where you can get on a coach to drive onto a Eurotunnel train.

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But if you really want to push the boat out,

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Simon has a far more luxurious proposition.

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So, instead, here's my prescription.

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Fly to Venice, Marco Polo Airport,

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and take a water taxi to a 5-star hotel

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for the most indulgent night of your life.

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Then, next day, head for the station,

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where the train is waiting for an 11am departure,

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and gives you an afternoon of fantastic views

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all the way to Innsbruck and beyond.

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For the final part of the trip,

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you can snooze through eastern France and wake up in Paris.

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And while everyone else waits for the engine to be changed

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for the rather laborious journey to London...

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You can indulge in a perfect Parisian breakfast,

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then check out the latest exhibition,

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do a little light shopping,

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and return to London at high speed in the posh seats on Eurostar,

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saving time and money.

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Not that you're counting!

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Now, either of these trips would cost a small fortune

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but the ultimate indulgence - if money really is no object -

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would be to hire a private island,

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like Ilha Grande close to Rio de Janeiro.

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A week here costs not far off ?10,000.

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Treasure the island,

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but then escape to explore the superb coast of Brazil.

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Then have a grand day out in Rio,

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before your overnight flight back to Britain,

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in a flat bed in business class, of course.

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And even with some serious shopping and dining,

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you should still have change out of ?50,000

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for the trip of a lifetime for all of you.

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Once the preserve of only the rich,

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over recent decades, air travel has become so commonplace

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that up to three billion of us take to the skies every single year.

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But, you know, it's reckoned that around a quarter of us

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are, in varying degrees, actually afraid of flying,

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making British travellers the most fearful in Europe.

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So several of the airlines run courses

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that are designed to overcome the fear of flying

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once and for all.

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And, to see if they actually work,

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we went along with a particularly nervous flyer,

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as she gave one of them a try.

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For thousands of years, humans have had a fascination with flying,

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and initially at least, our attempts to get airborne

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had very mixed results!

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Though we have now got the hang of it,

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and plane journeys have become statistically

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the absolute safest way to travel.

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For many passengers, though,

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the very thought of flying can send them into a spin.

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Natalie Pearce from Oxfordshire is one.

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Her fear of flying began 20 years ago, over 30,000 feet in the air.

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At the end of the '90s, when we were flying back from Tenerife,

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we experienced a bit of turbulence

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and then we hit what I thought was an air pocket,

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where it feels like you're dropping out of the sky.

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Um...

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Only lasted seconds, but felt like hours.

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Now, even contemplating a plane journey

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has Natalie racked with fear and anxiety.

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I think as I have got older

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and probably since I've had the children,

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I've always thought more of the safety aspect as well.

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If I hear any noises when I'm on the plane,

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I then get worried as to what they are.

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Or that the wings aren't working properly.

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Natalie's concerned that things have got so bad

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it's limiting not only her view of the world,

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but also her children's.

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It has obviously restricted where we can go to,

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and we probably don't go away as much as perhaps I used to.

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There's so much to see out there, you know,

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that we're not seeing because we're so limited

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as to where we can go and what we can do.

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At present, the only way she can board an aircraft

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is after taking prescription medication,

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and even then, her fears don't disappear completely.

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I've had to, in the past, take prescribed medication

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to enable me to get onto a plane.

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I have a partner that's very understanding,

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that allows me to grip hold of his hand very tightly,

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and also talk to me while we're on the flight about what's happening

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and to try and calm me down.

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So I have got slightly better, like I say,

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him supporting me and talking to me,

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but I'm still a long way off being OK about flying!

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And that's all come to a head since Natalie's father moved to Cyprus.

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She knows that unless she can conquer her fear of flying,

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she and her children are unlikely to ever visit him in his new home.

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Oh, wow, look, that looks amazing, Imogen, doesn't it?

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I would love to go to Cyprus to see my dad,

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and obviously for the children to go out there and see their grandad.

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He moved out there 18 months ago.

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He still comes back here, but it'd be lovely...

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Even though we've seen pictures of his place in Cyprus,

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it would be lovely to actually go out there

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and stay with him for a while.

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A fear of flying, sometimes called aviophobia,

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can lead to a rapid heartbeat, shortness of breath, trembling,

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and tightening of the stomach muscles,

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along with an overwhelming desire to escape the situation.

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But though Natalie's tried various medications,

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and alternative therapies to beat it, none have worked.

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So now, after years of trying to pluck up the courage,

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she's ready to try one of the courses

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that airlines run to tackle the problem head-on.

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I really want to overcome my fear,

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I also want to know why things are making certain noises.

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I would like to know sometimes what the speak is on the tannoys

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between the pilots and the air hostesses,

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cos sometimes that panics me a bit,

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I think they're speaking in a secret code

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to say there's a problem with the plane.

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So just have a greater understanding of the whole thing.

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We're going to accompany Natalie on a daylong course

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with Virgin Atlantic, bought for her by her mother at a cost of ?267.

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It is a last, desperate attempt to get herself airborne.

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Though the course claims a 98% success rate,

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there's no guarantee that it will work,

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and as she heads to the airport, ready to begin,

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all she can think of are the downsides to flying.

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Getting off the plane at the end

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is the only thing I like.

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There's absolutely nothing else about flying that I like at all.

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It can have a physical effect on me, as in I can get an upset stomach,

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and, like I say, I get very anxious about it,

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and I can feel nauseous as well.

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Richard Conway is the co-founder of this particular course,

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and he has first-hand experience

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of just how debilitating such fear can be.

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I did have a fear of flying.

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My overcoming it showed me so much about how to help other people.

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The programme started with a need for helping nervous flyers,

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and we wanted to do this and really change people's lives in one day,

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which is what we do.

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Of course, a fear of flying is also bad news for airlines like Virgin,

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so it's in their interest

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to get anxious passengers back into the sky.

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The latest research that we have our hands on is from 2012,

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and it shows at least 30% of the population

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have a fear of flying of some sort,

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and that can be from the mildly anxious to the utterly terrified.

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So there's a need. I have to say that our dream would be

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for no-one to be booking the courses.

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The course is delivered in two parts,

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kicking off with a session in the classroom,

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and then the real deal up in the air.

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But even waiting to go into the classroom

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has pushed Natalie's anxiety levels sky-high.

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I'm getting a bit more anxious.

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I was just speaking to someone

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who I presume is running a bit of the course,

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I don't know what part he's doing,

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but he was asking me about my fears and how it started,

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and it was just making me a bit more stressful and anxious

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in reiterating what my fears are, so I don't know, we shall see.

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But then the course gets underway,

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with the tutors trying to erase years of fear and panic.

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We see between 2,000 and 3,000 people every single year.

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How many people drove here today?

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How many people were passengers when they came here today?

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The car was serviced this morning, the engineers had looked at it

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and checked it over completely and signed it off? Yes?

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LAUGHTER No?

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All of these things that revolved around incidents and accidents,

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the lessons learned are, trust the systems, cos the systems work.

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Incidents involving aircraft are so rare, they always make headlines.

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So, with the tutors confident

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that they've helped the group rationalise their fears

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and understand that the risks of flying are relatively low,

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the classroom part of the day is over,

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and it's time to put into practice

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everything they've learned on the ground.

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I've just realised quite how irrational some of my fears were,

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but then you're only going to overcome those

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by having pilots or other people telling you, isn't it?

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Steady as a rock, I fly with that hand!

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THEY LAUGH Just as they look at us!

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Oh, hang on.

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But as they head off to the aircraft,

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Natalie has fresh concerns about whether what she's been taught

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will still seem reasonable when it's time to take off.

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I think I'm going to be better once I'm actually on the plane -

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it's just the apprehension, isn't it, of the unknown almost?

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But if she can keep calm and get on board,

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this could be a major breakthrough.

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We're going to go through security check in a minute...

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..to then board the plane.

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I just need to get on to the plane now.

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Cos we've been now talking about it since this morning,

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I just need to go and do it now.

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This is the first time in 19 years that Natalie has boarded an aircraft

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without the support of medication, and it's not easy.

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READER BEEPS

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That's perfect, that's going to be straight on board, OK?

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Thank you very much. Thank you. Right, so here we go.

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Alongside around 130 other fearful flyers,

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Natalie finally gets on board.

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61. G - just go straight over, turn right. Thank you.

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As she tries her best to settle in, the safety briefing begins.

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So we're now going to explain the safety equipment procedures

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for this 787-9 aircraft.

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You share responsibility with us for your safety,

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so please remove any headsets and pay careful attention.

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And the pilots do their best to reassure their nervous passengers.

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We worked out we've got 120 years' worth

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of aviation experience between us.

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Before they know it, it's time for takeoff.

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And, once up in the air,

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Natalie amazes herself by managing to leave her seat.

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For the first time, she's beginning to get a real sense of flying

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without her usual nervousness.

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It's true what the trainers said,

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because I'm not very good with heights,

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but actually this isn't causing me a problem,

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looking out the window at the view.

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It is amazing to see all the clouds and things...

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..and then see the view below them.

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Other airlines, including British Airways and easyJet,

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also run courses very similar to this one,

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with hundreds of people taking them every month.

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OK, we've just commenced a turn to the left-hand side,

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heading down towards Southampton and the Isle of Wight.

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It's 30 minutes into the flight, and Natalie's confidence is growing.

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Yeah, I'm feeling quite relaxed, actually, I'm not too bad.

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The overall success rate on today's course was around 99%,

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with only one passenger not managing to take the flight,

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and Natalie's astonished at the difference

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between how she feels now, and how she's felt on planes in the past.

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I wouldn't say I love it.

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I did enjoy it, which is a major improvement.

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And, once she comes back down to earth,

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she has high hopes for the future.

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I feel it's really worked. I enjoyed the flight.

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I'd say the landing and takeoff not as much,

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but they weren't as bad as I've experienced before, that's for sure.

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If you have got a story you'd like us to investigate,

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then get in touch with us via our Facebook page...

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..or, if you want to send us a letter, then our new address is...

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Well, you often tell us how frustrating

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you find the different policies of individual airlines,

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and one of your biggest bugbears has long been the charges

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for designated or guaranteed seats.

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But I honestly never thought I'd see the sort of problems

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for families as we've seen today.

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Now, this is only my opinion,

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but I find it very hard to justify why you should have to pay extra

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to be sure that you can sit by your own child.

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And I don't think you're on your own with that one, Gloria,

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because I'm sure an awful lot of people will agree with you.

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But, on a more positive note,

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wasn't it absolutely great to see how Natalie ended up

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so much more confident about getting on a plane?

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The world is now her oyster,

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so we all hope that she enjoys every minute of exploring it.

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In the meantime,

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do remember that if you've had an issue with a flight or an airline,

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then do let us know about it.

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We really would like to hear from you.

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I'm sure this is a topic we'll be returning to again,

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but all your e-mails and letters help us identify the issues

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that most matter to you, so do please keep them coming.

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For now, though, this particular takeoff is definitely on time,

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so from the three of us, it's goodbye.

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BOTH: Bye-bye.

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