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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
when it comes to your holidays | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
It was absolutely gutting. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
You know, we just... We thought, "That's it. We've lost our money." | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Never in my life have I experienced anything like that. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
It... I wouldn't wish it on anybody. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Your stories. Your money. This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
where, for this special series, we've decamped to sunny Lanzarote | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
and it's an ideal base from which to investigate | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
some of your holiday and travel dilemmas. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Although, do you know what? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Actually, the word "disaster" would be a better description | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
for some of the experiences we'll be looking at. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
You are so right, Julia. It really would. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
Because what could be worse | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
than when that longed-for holiday finally comes around | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
than being told that you can't get on the plane | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
without anyone being able to explain why | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
or, indeed, discovering that you've suddenly been refused a visa | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
for a favourite destination | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
that you've visited before without any trouble at all? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Well, both scenarios would not only absolutely scupper your holiday, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
but it could also leave you very seriously out of pocket. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
You're right, which, of course, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
is why the people who find themselves | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
in exactly those situations came to us. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Like others we'll be hearing from today, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
they came up against an absolute brick wall | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
in trying to get their problems resolved. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
And while, in some cases, we only got involved after the event, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
as you'll see, the family at the heart of one of our stories | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
came to us for help just in the nick of time. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
Coming up, the eight-year-old boy banned, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
with his dad, from entering the US | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
just as they were about to get on the plane. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
So, why can't anyone tell them why? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Having an official point the finger at him saying, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
"You will not be flying today" was pretty distressing for him. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
And how one of Britain's best-known airlines | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
has left this man hundreds of pounds out of pocket, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
despite him doing absolutely nothing wrong. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
I really did just want the floor to open up. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I had all these people behind me. I was absolutely mortified, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
just like, "What on earth do I do now?" | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Now, here's a story about a missing visa. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
If you want to visit some of the most popular | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
package holiday destinations outside Europe, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
you may well need to get a visa before you travel. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
In most cases, it should be pretty straightforward to get one, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
particularly now so many of them are done electronically. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
But that's not at all how it turned out | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
for the family in our next film. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
One of their visa applications was repeatedly rejected, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
meaning the holiday they'd booked and paid for | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
looked as if it simply wasn't going to happen. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Things were looking desperate | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
and it was at that point that they contacted us. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Now, of course, the whole point of this programme is to try and help, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
but this time, with just days to go before they were due to leave, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
well, it seemed it might just be too late. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
For Rebecca and James from Pendle in Lancashire, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
last year's summer holiday was a particularly important chance | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
to get a break. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
Well, it's an absolute sanity saver | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
because we do have a lot of stress involved | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
in the day-to-day running of the home | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
and so that two weeks, where you can just switch off | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
and just do the things that other families take for granted | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
and are just run-of-the-mill, to us, it's very special. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
James works as a teaching assistant | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
whilst Linda cares for their daughter, Rebecca, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
who is both deaf and blind. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
I'm a full-time carer for Becky. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
It means that I have to sort out all her appointments. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
I have to be in contact with all the different authorities | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
that help towards her upkeep. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
She keeps the family going. There's no two ways about that. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Without her, well, I don't think we'd survive. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
Summer holidays can provide the family | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
with some much-needed respite | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
as they book Rebecca into a local care centre | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
while James, Linda and their 14-year-old son, Callum, go away. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
It would be, really, a difficult manoeuvre | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
to get Rebecca from Britain to another country, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
so it's far better for Rebecca to go into respite care | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
and obviously, from our point of view, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Linda then gets a break where she isn't doing the full-time caring. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
In 2015, just as they had the previous year, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
the family had set their sights on Turkey. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Turkey is just an absolute fantastic place to visit. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
The climate is brilliant. The people are warm and friendly. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
It's just so relaxing. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
They booked well ahead of time in September | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
and knew from their previous visit | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
that they had to apply online for an e-visa. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
It's a simple application process | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
that can usually be completed in just a few minutes. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
The other occasion, it was quite straightforward | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
and, at the end of the process, I was issued with a visa. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
But this time, when the family applied, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
while Linda and their son, Callum, had their visas issued straightaway, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
James' application was rejected. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Thinking he'd made a mistake, James tried again, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
but the same rejection notice appeared. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
He tried again and again and again - | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
in fact, dozens of times - but all to no avail. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
We've been on this site at least 40 times now, if not more. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
So, now we... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
It just says, "Sorry. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
"Unfortunately, we are not able to issue a visa for you." | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
"Please proceed to the nearest Turkish embassy | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
"or consulate for visa application." | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
With every failed application, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
you just think the chance is slipping further and further away, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
that going on holiday might not be on the cards for me this year. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
The couple contacted the Turkish authorities by phone, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
but no-one could explain | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
why James' application had been rejected. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
And an appointment at the embassy seemed out of the question | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
when they found none was available | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
until long after their holiday would have been over. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
This has been one of the most stressful periods | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I've experienced in a long, long time. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
You lie awake at night thinking, "What is it? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
"Is it something we've done wrong?" | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
It was only when the family approached their MP for help | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
that they discovered the reason the application had been turned down | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
was probably because someone with the same name and birth date | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
had been banned from entering Turkey in the past | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
and the system apparently assumed | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
that the two Jameses were one and the same. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Surely, they could filter out, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
using the extra information that you put on your application for a visa, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
to say, "Well, yeah, this guy isn't the one we're looking for." | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
The best solution the MP's office and the Turkish embassy could offer | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
was that James should fly to Turkey without a visa, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
explain the situation on arrival | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
and hope the authorities there were sympathetic. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
In other words, chance it and see what happened | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
with the very real risk that he might be sent home | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
and Linda and Callum would have to take the holiday on their own. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It would be up to me to find my way home, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
at my own cost, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
and then I've got the situation of leaving my wife and my son alone. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
For the family, that wasn't an option, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
but with visa problems not covered by their travel insurance, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
just staying at home would leave them seriously out of pocket. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
The cost of the holiday was 3,300. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
So, obviously, if you split that between three people, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
you're looking at... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
I stand at £1,100, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
and apparently, the insurance company has no facility to reimburse me | 0:07:43 | 0:07:50 | |
because it doesn't fall within the parameters of their cover. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
With the clock ticking, James got in touch with us, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
hoping there might be something we could do to help. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
At first, despite making lots of calls, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
we were struggling to get anywhere | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
but, finally, we were able to organise an appointment for James | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
at the Turkish embassy | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
to explain the situation and apply for his visa in person. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
The only problem was it was just two days | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
before the family were due to go on holiday | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
so, for James, this 500-mile round trip to London | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
really was a last-ditch attempt to save his holiday. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
I'm very nervous this morning | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
because there's absolutely no certainty | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
that, having come all this way, I will be given a visa. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
It's just in the lap of the gods. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
Half an hour later, James emerged from the embassy, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
but there was still no final decision. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
I feel we've made real progress this morning. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
At least now, once the vice consul has been in touch | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
with the powers that be in Turkey, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
he will either say, "Yes, I can issue you a visa," | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
or, "No," so it's just waiting and hoping for the best. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Two hours went by with no word from the consulate. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
James went back inside to see if there was any further update | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
but he came out with no news and, it seemed, no hope. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
I think the chances of actually getting to Turkey now | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
are very, very slim if not, well, nigh impossible. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
I don't believe we will get a phone call | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
either tonight or tomorrow to say that the visa's there, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
and if it were to arrive tomorrow, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
it's just not possible to get back down here in time. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Resigned to the fact that his holiday wasn't going to happen, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
James headed off to catch his coach back to Pendle, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
but halfway home, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
he got the phone call he'd been waiting for. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It was the vice consul saying, "You've got the green light. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
"The visa's here. We'll mail it to you first thing in the morning." | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
And he was both delighted and relieved when, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
less than 24 hours before he was due to take off, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
his visa finally arrived. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Can't put into words how happy we are. Fantastic. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Didn't think it was going to happen and, well, they came through. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
I'd just like to express my personal thanks | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
to everybody involved at Rip Off Britain | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
that has made this possible. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
Without you, the holiday turned into a disaster. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
It's been saved. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Well, it's obviously a great result, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
but James can't understand why no way forward was suggested | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
until we got involved. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
When we asked the Turkish embassy for an explanation, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
it confirmed that there was indeed someone | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
with the same name and birth date as James | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
who had been denied entry to Turkey. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Because of that, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
although the two men aren't linked in any way, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
an online visa couldn't be issued automatically | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
and James' application required what they called | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
a second level of processing. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
And the embassy advised that, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
while getting an ordinary visa appointment | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
may take longer during the busy summer season, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
if, like James, you find your visa can't be processed online | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
and your situation is urgent, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
an emergency appointment can be arranged | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
by contacting the consulate directly. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
It went on to say it was pleased its staff had done a good job | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
in assisting James with his exceptional case | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and stressed that more than 10 million e-visas have been issued | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
since the new system was introduced - | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
a quarter of them to British tourists - | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
and it's confident the new service is both faster and more efficient. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
As for James and his family, despite the stressful lead-up, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Turkey once again provided the relaxing break | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
the family was looking for. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
So much so that they've booked to return again this year, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
although this time, they'll be on their guard | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
in case the same problem crops up again. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
I think the Turkish e-visa system | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
has seriously got to be looked at by the powers that be and improved. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Well, not just improved. Actually made foolproof. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
I certainly wouldn't want to go through this again. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Now, one of the countries that's well known | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
for its strict entry policy is the United States. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
Its immigration policy is really not to be messed with | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
and, unless you have an absolutely clean slate | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
with no criminal record whatsoever, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
you may find that taking a holiday there is far from easy. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
But one of the people that we're about to hear from | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
can prove beyond any doubt | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
that he has never been on the wrong side of the law. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
So why should he suddenly have discovered | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
right at the last minute that he wasn't welcome? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
MUSIC: Born In The USA by Bruce Springsteen | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
Each year, around 3.8 million Brits visit the United States, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
which remains one of our favourite holiday destinations. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Provided, that is, that they'll let you in. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
"Dear Mr Obama. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
"Hello. My name is Drew and I'm eight years old. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
"I went to America when I was four | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
"and my mum and dad got married out there. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
"I wanted to go back as it was really fun..." | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Last July, Drew Saunders was meant to be going on a dream holiday | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
to Las Vegas with his family, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
but sadly, he didn't get further than the airport. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
"I got stopped by a man at the front of the plane. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
"He said, 'Why are you travelling to the US today?' | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
"My dad said, 'For a holiday,' | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
"and he said, 'Not today, you're not.'" | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Drew had been looking forward to a holiday of bright lights, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
water slides and sunshine. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
He'd first visited Las Vegas back in 2011, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
giving his mum and dad the ring when they tied the knot. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Back then, he was too little to take in all the city's thrills. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
But after four years of hard saving by his parents, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
a return trip was booked | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and, according to dad Martin, Drew couldn't wait. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
He was over the moon. It's, like, a week before, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
it was the big countdown, ready to go. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
So he had packed his own suitcase, got all his travel money ready. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
For him, it was the biggest event of the year. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
It was bigger than Christmas. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
As with all tourists visiting America, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
the Saunders needed extra documentation | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
on top of their passport to make the trip. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Those of us who don't have a full visa | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
will typically apply for an ESTA - | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
or Electronic System for Travel Authority - | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
via an online application form. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
And the family had got all the paperwork in place | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
well in advance. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
They all came through. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
Passports, everything was in check. Holiday money. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Um, yeah, so pretty much, on the Thursday, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
when it was ready to go, we were all set to go. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
All prepared, the family arrived at Heathrow Airport, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
checked in and passed through security smoothly. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
But just as they were about to board their flight, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Martin started feeling uneasy. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
I noticed a gentleman in a suit just watching me and looking at me | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
and I could feel that something wasn't right. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
But he asked me for my passport | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
and said, "What is your business in the US?" | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
I said, "I'm going with my family on holiday," | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and he said, "Not today, you're not." | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
You may not know it, but American Homeland Security | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
do have a discreet presence at airports that are flying to the US | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
and this particular officer was insistent | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
that Martin and eight-year-old Drew were not going to board the flight. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
I said, "But we've got all the required documents." | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
He said, "I know you have but your status has changed." | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Erm, he said, and, basically, he could change the status | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
whenever he wished at whatever point he wished. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
We were pulled aside and pointed at | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
and saying, "You won't be travelling today. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
"Check your bags and leave the airport." | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
And Drew the same. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
You know, having an official point the finger at him saying, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
"You will not be flying today," was pretty distressing for him. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
Drew's anxiety continued when it appeared that the US official | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
was suggesting that his mother, Nikki, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
could continue to board the plane without her husband and son. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
Obviously, she replied, "I'm not going to go without them." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
So...yeah, with Drew, he just looked really upset. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
The family's bags were removed from the plane | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
and, stunned, they found themselves back at the check-in desk. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
We were asking the staff, like, "What do we do?" | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
They said, you know, "You can use our phones, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
"you can use the computer to resolve the problems," | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
but we didn't know what the problem was. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
The staff suggested that Martin try the US embassy. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
We tried to ring the embassy. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
We were told that you had to make an appointment at the embassy | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and I thought, "Well, OK, we'll just get a taxi down to the embassy, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
"um, have an appointment, get the whole thing resolved," | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
but it wasn't as easy as that. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
The family says they were advised by their travel agent | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
that they couldn't simply turn up at the embassy | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
without an appointment. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
And while, initially, it seemed that the best option | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
might be for them to apply for a full visa, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
when they looked into this further, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
the next available slot for an appointment to get one | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
was a full month away. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
By now, the family had spent seven hours at the airport | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
and it was becoming increasingly clear | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
that they were not going to go to America after all. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Admitting defeat, they went home | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and spent their fortnight's holiday in Essex, not Vegas. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I'm self-employed, no criminal convictions, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
no parking tickets, no points on my licence | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
so, no, no reason whatsoever why they'd stop myself going. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
The whole thing's bizarre, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
how they could, you know, choose an eight-year-old | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
to be a threat to national security. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
You know, he's just going through primary school. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
As the incident sank in, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
the family set about trying to work out just what the problem was | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
and it was only when mum Nikki checked her e-mails | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
that she found one sent shortly before they'd been due to travel, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
advising they could no longer fly as their ESTA status had changed. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
But as they'd already left home by the time it had been sent, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
she hadn't seen it | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
and, in any case, there was still no explanation as to why. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
So the Saunders turned to the US Homeland Security website | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
to see if anything could be done. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
They've got back with a letter saying that they're looking into it, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
but still not really heard anything to why that, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
you know, we were stopped on that day. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Right, go for the big one. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Meanwhile, the family had forked out nearly £3,500 | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
for a holiday they had not been able to take. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Martin turned to his travel insurance | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
but was told that his policy didn't cover issues around visa | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
or entry requirements. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Luckily, the Saunders did manage to recover their accommodation costs | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
and get a voucher for flights to an alternative destination | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
via their travel agent and the airline. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
But none of that solves the mystery of why, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
as it stands, Martin and Drew cannot fly to America. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
"I knew my dad couldn't sort this out | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
"because the man from the government from that country, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
"he just said no." | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
The situation the Saunders found themselves in isn't uncommon. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
It's been reported that approximately 366 people | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
are refused entry to the country every day. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
So how exactly are people identified as potential threats to US security | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
and might you fall foul of the rules and regulations? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
US immigration lawyer Susan McFadden believes that Martin and Drew | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
have somehow found themselves | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
onto the worryingly titled US No Fly List. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
No Fly List is, as the name implies, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
a list of people who are not allowed to fly to the US, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
from the US or over US territory. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
People get put on the list for a variety of reasons | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
but the main one is that they, or someone they know, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
is engaged in activity that the US Government finds | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
to be reasonably suspicious of terrorism. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
But others, like Martin and Drew, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
may unwittingly find themselves on the list | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
without any obvious explanation. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
It could very well be a confusion of names. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
It could have been an error | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
in putting the name on the database in the first place. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
That certainly happens. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
With this particular situation no clearer, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
we took the Saunders family's questions | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
to the US Department of Homeland Security. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
It told us that it isn't permitted to discuss specific cases | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
but acknowledged that there are more than 60 grounds | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
on which people can be denied entry into the United States. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
But Martin and Nikki say that none of those reasons, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
which include having a criminal record, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
previously being deported from the country | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
or previously outstaying their visa status, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
apply to them or Drew and all they can do is persevere | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
to have the Saunders family name removed from any No Fly List. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
I'd like to think that both our names would be cleared | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
cos it is a big misunderstanding. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
I'd really like Homeland Security to get in touch | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
and say, you know, "We've made a big mistake," | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
and they put their hands up and say, you know, "You're free to fly | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
"and you can go to America whenever you choose." | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
"I really, really feel sad | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
"and I'll be really happy if you could fix this for us. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
"Drew Saunders." | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
a breakthrough that's great news for consumers | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
but bad news for airlines that don't stick to the rules. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Some airlines try and wriggle out of their obligations | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
just so they don't pay their passengers. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
-GLORIA: -For two days only, we came to the heart of the East Midlands. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
So welcome to Nottingham. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
It's because you write to us and e-mail us | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
with your consumer problems in your hundreds | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
that we open up our pop-up shop. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
And, you know, it's not just a great opportunity | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
for us to be able to meet all of you face-to-face, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
but it means that we can also give you on-the-spot advice. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
And travel journalist Lisa Francesca Nand | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
was on hand to do exactly that when Joan Marriott came in | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
frustrated that a last-minute change had happened to her holiday. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
We booked to go on a cruise on the 8th of May. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Um, on the 7th of May, we got a text | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
saying that there was a problem with the boat | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
and we wouldn't be sailing until Sunday. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Um, we were being offered 15% compensation | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
-off the amount that we'd paid... -Mm-hm. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
..and also 10% off the next cruise, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
whether we'd like to go on another one, you know... | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-But that was it. -And does it mean that you're actually losing | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
two days of your holiday? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
-Yes. Yes. -Right. -And also two ports of call. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Right. How did you feel when you got that text? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Very disappointed, very angry, upset. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
OK, so let's see, Lisa. Anything you can do there? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Well, the thing is, in this case, you're not actually out of pocket, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
which is a good thing cos they have fully refunded you | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
-for those two days that you're missing. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
But there is something you could possibly claim for | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
and it's something called loss of enjoyment. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
If you go back and you speak to the operator and say, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
"Is there any compensation?" | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Well, I think that's really good advice from Lisa. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
-So have a lovely time. -Thank you. -Don't let it spoil your holiday. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
-No, I won't. -OK. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Meanwhile, in the heart of the shopping centre, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
travel expert Simon Calder was fielding queries | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
on the holiday destinations you were heading to | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
and he had some great tips on whether it's always a good idea | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
to buy foreign currency before leaving the UK. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-Going to Croatia in September. -Your first time there? -Yes. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
So what are the questions that you want to ask the guru? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-I'd like to know about the currency. -Oh, I'm very, very glad | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
because so many people get it wrong when they go to Croatia. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
-What is the currency of Croatia? -The Croat krone. -No, no. -What? | 0:23:53 | 0:24:00 | |
-Well, it's the Croatian kuna, OK? -Oh! Did you know that? -No. -Right. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
And it's not the euro, and so many people think that Croatia, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
because it's in the European Union now, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
it's automatically in the Eurozone. It isn't. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
And so a number of people will take euros out there and think, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
"Oh, well, we'll just spend those." | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work like that. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
So these might be useful | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
but, actually, I would simply take good old sterling. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Just turn up with these. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
You can get off the plane at Dubrovnik Airport | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
and go straight to the bureau de change. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Just change £10. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
That'll be more than enough to get you into town. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Once you're in town, you can't move for travel agencies | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
which are selling you very, very good rates for Croatian kuna. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
You will find that it's incredibly good value out there. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
And do not, whatever you do, get any Croatian kuna in advance | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
because it's a so-called exotic currency. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
You can go to the Post Office, you can go to travel agents, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
you can go to banks and they're going to give you a terrible rate. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
-Does that help? -Yes, definitely. -What were you going to do? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-I was thinking of getting them before I go. -Oh! -So... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I can run through the great, long list of countries | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
for which it's worth getting money in advance. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
One, the United States. Two, the eurozone. That's it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Everywhere else - so Turkey, Egypt, all those places - | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
just wait till you get there | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
because if you try and get some here, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
you'll just get a rubbish rate. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
Now, earlier in the programme, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
we heard about the problems that some of you have had | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
getting visas for countries you'd been hoping to visit. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
But what if you're not actually visiting a country | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
but simply have a connecting flight in one of its airports? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Do you still need a visa then? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
Well, as you'll see, you may be told by everyone you've checked with, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
from the company you're flying with | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
to the embassy of the country itself, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
that no visa is necessary, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
but that still might not be enough to satisfy the airline | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
and that could mean you're not allowed to board the plane. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Breathtaking mountains, stunning countryside | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
and culture-rich historic cities. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
It may not be the obvious choice, but this is Kazakhstan, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
visited by an ever-increasing number of tourists | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
looking for a holiday to remember. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
And for a seasoned traveller like David Scott, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
it had everything he wanted for his next adventure. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
So I was heading out there for, you know, Christmas, New Year | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
and a holiday across that period. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
This was my main holiday of 2014, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
so I was really looking forward to getting out there, relaxing. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
David spotted a good deal online if he flew via Russia, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
travelling to Moscow with easyJet | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
and then onto Kazakhstan with Siberia Airlines | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
on a separate ticket. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
Having travelled to more than 100 countries, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
he knew there was a possibility he'd need a visa. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
So he did some digging | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
and found Kazakhstan itself doesn't require one. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
But he wanted to ensure that, as he was flying via Moscow, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
he didn't need one for Russia either, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
so he called the embassy's helpline to check. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
The Russian consulate said, "No, nobody needs a visa | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
"for transit through Moscow, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
"providing you're not leaving the airport | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
"and you're connecting onto a flight within 24 hours." | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
That's pretty standard. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
But just to be on the safe side, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
he also checked the rules with his airline, easyJet. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
easyJet confirmed, "Absolutely no. You don't need a transit visa." | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
So I went ahead, booked the ticket. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Reassured, David spent the next few weeks | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
preparing for his holiday adventure. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
But as the big day arrived, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
the very problem he thought he'd done everything to avoid | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
reared its head. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
I got a friend to drive me down to the airport | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
at four o'clock in the morning. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Turned up, you know, not fully awake, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
and then, suddenly, the girl behind the counter's saying, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
"No, you haven't got a visa. You can't fly." | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
I really did just want the floor to open up. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
I had all these people behind me. I was absolutely mortified, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
just like, "What on earth do I do now?" | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
The easyJet staff at Gatwick Airport insisted that, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
despite what he'd been assured, a Russian transit visa was required | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
because, once David arrived at Moscow, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
he'd need to pick up his luggage | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
and check it in again for his next flight, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
which they said would mean leaving the transit area of the airport, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
but that was news to David. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
And it's, like, "Whoa! Hang on. I've been in Moscow Airport before. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
"I know where the transit desk is. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
"You just take your luggage tag to the transit desk, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
"give your luggage tag to the transit agent | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
"and they do that for you. You don't have to exit." | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
Despite David's protestations, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
the easyJet staff were adamant he couldn't board | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
and, with his connecting flight in Moscow leaving in a matter of hours, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
David feared he wasn't going to make it to Kazakhstan at all. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
My connecting flight only flies twice a week, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
so it's not as if I could go the next day. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
It would have been a case of | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
I wouldn't have got there until after Christmas. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
I mean, that was an extremely stressful experience. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
With easyJet not budging but the clock ticking | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
if he wanted to make that connection, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
David decided he had no choice | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
but to try and find another flight to Moscow and fast. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
After some frantic phone calls, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
he found one with British Airways flying later that day, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
but from Heathrow. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
So really hoping his new airline would agree he didn't need a visa, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
he bit the bullet, booked his seat and got a cab to Heathrow Airport. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
I was running around Heathrow | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
looking for the British Airways desk to check in. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Got there, you know, half expecting to be refused by British Airways | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
on the same grounds. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
No problem at all and I says, "Don't I need a visa?" | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
"Nope, you don't need a visa." | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
So got on my flight and it was sudden relief, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
but up until that point, it was just stress. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
David made his connecting flight to Kazakhstan with, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
as he'd originally been advised, no visa required. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
But shelling out £470 for his new flight to Moscow | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
plus £40 for his cab had made a big dent in his finances, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
not to mention his enjoyment of the holiday. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
After all, he'd already got a valid ticket | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
and, as he saw it, had been denied boarding for no valid reason. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
I'd had £500 knocked out of my spending money budget, if you like. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
I mean, I was really looking forward to going on that holiday | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
and I needed it at the time, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
but when I arrived, I mean, the first three or four days, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
all I could think about was how frustrated, how angry | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
and how upset I was with easyJet | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
and it took a few days for me to calm down. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:25 | |
I mean, the first few days I was out there, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
I was busy searching the internet, looking for websites | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
to try and find all the information I needed | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
to get the complaint in to easyJet. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
David was confident that when easyJet responded to his complaint, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
it would accept that it had made a mistake | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
and refund the extra money he'd paid. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
But instead, when he arrived back in the UK, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
easyJet asked David to prove that he had special authorisation | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
from the Russian embassy to travel through Moscow without a visa, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
which he, of course, didn't have because, according to the embassy, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
the journey he made didn't require a visa in the first place. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
So that really didn't impress David. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
I mean, when they came back with that response, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
I just couldn't believe it. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
It just made absolutely no sense | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
and I could not understand what they were asking me for. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
It was like asking me to provide them a letter | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
from the UK Border Agency for me to go through Gatwick. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
Just made no sense whatsoever. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Now, you can understand why David might be baffled, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
but Simon Calder, who's heard similar stories before, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
has an explanation. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Now, this poor guy says he was assured | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
by the Russian embassy and by easyJet | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
when he asked in advance | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
that he would, of course, be allowed to transfer so-called airside, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
not have to enter Russia | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
and therefore, he wouldn't need a visa | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
and it obviously unravelled. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Why did that happen? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
Well, easyJet say, "We are a point-to-point airline. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
"We sell seats from Gatwick to Domodedovo Airport in Moscow | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
"and, at that point, you're on your own. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
"We demand everybody who we fly there | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
"has the right documentation | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
"and, if you don't, you're not getting on the plane." | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
By describing itself as a point-to-point airline, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
easyJet's position is essentially | 0:32:14 | 0:32:15 | |
that it's only bothered about the place it's flying you to | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
and nothing after that. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
So in David's case, as it was taking him to Moscow, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
a city where a visa would be required | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
if it was the final point of your journey, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
a visa is what it wanted to see | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
and the airline didn't give two hoots that, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
because of his connection, he didn't actually need one. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
easyJet confirmed its position in an e-mail it sent David | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
in response to his complaint | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
but he can't understand why the airline's policy | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
wasn't made clear to him at the time of booking... | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
..or, indeed, when he rang easyJet to check precisely this point. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
I'm upset, I'm angry and I'm frustrated | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
at the responses I've been getting from easyJet. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
When we got in touch with easyJet, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
it said it was sorry to hear about David's issues, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
but that, like all airlines, it requires all passengers | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
to have the correct documentation for their journey | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
and it reiterated that, as a point-to-point carrier, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
in cases such as this, a visa is required. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
It added it was the embassy's responsibility | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
to provide information about onward travel | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
but it didn't confirm if or why its staff had told David | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
he didn't need a visa, as he maintains is the case. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
None of that helps David. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
He remains thoroughly cheesed off | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
that he's been left out of pocket through no fault of his own. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
The stress that this caused initially was ridiculous. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
I was satisfied that I'd done the right thing. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I turn up and, suddenly, I'm told I've done the wrong thing. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
I mean, I was absolutely mortified. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
ANGELA: Our travel expert, Simon Calder, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
is sharing his top tips on favourite destinations across the globe. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
This time, it's Florida, much loved by Brits. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
It doesn't come cheap, though, with long-haul flights, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
theme park tickets | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
and somewhere to stay just the basics. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
But there are still plenty of ways to keep your costs down, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
provided you check what you're getting. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
To get the most bang from your buck, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
check the price direct from the theme park | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
with what specialist ticket agents are charging | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
and check if you're going to be sent the real tickets | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
or just a voucher code | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
for which you're then going to have to pick up the tickets | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
when you arrive in Florida, using up valuable time | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
that could be better spent enjoying those unlimited thrills. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
And after shelling out for all those theme park tickets, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
it's good to know that you can weave | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
a few Florida freebies into your trip. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
For example, in the lovely Orlando suburb of Winter Park, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
on the second Thursday of every month, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
there's a free outdoor screening of a family movie. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
Just bring a rug and some popcorn. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
It's a great way to escape the theme park commotion. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
But once you're back at your hotel room, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
watch out for an increasingly common scam. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
Don't be tempted by the late-night takeaway leaflets | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
that might appear under your door. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
These high-quality, full-colour productions | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
have pictures of delicious-looking pizzas, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
but be warned. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:38 | |
If you order one, you might find the delivery man never appears. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
That's if the person at the other end of the phone | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
is a scammer with no connection to any restaurant. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
They'll take your card details | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
and use them to make fraudulent purchases | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
or empty your bank account. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
So instead, ask the nice person on hotel reception | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
for their preferred pizza provider. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Now, if you've ever had a run-in with an airline | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
after your flight was delayed or cancelled, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
you'll know just how tricky it can be sometimes | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
to get things resolved the way that you would like it. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Well, over the years, we've had a steady stream of people | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
telling us that they feel their complaint | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
got them absolutely nowhere | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
and there hasn't been a lot they could do about it. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Well, all of that is about to change | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
and there now is somewhere else that you can take your complaint to. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
It's one of the issues that you write to us about the most. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Whether it's delays... | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
I'd like them to be honest, first and foremost, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
about why we were delayed. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
..unfair treatment... | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
We were so stressed about flights, it sounds daft, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
and I tried to remain chilled, I tried to remain positive. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
..or simply poor customer service... | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
We felt absolutely desperate. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:55 | |
We really don't know what else we could have done | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
to prevent this happening. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
..problems with flights and airlines | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
are guaranteed to put a dampener on your holiday | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
before it's even got off the ground. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
And as we've heard through every holiday series we've ever made, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
when you have a problem with your airline, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
getting it resolved in the way you'd like | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
isn't always straightforward, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:15 | |
even when it seems that the law is on your side. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
So when we heard about a new major development that, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
when it's up and running, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
should mean you have somewhere to go to sort things out, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
we knew you'd be keen to hear all about it. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
In April last year, the Civil Aviation Authority, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
which regulates the industry, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
announced plans to create an aviation ombudsman. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
It's a new service that, if you've reached stalemate | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
with a complaint against an airline, will offer a fresh, unbiased look | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
and make a decision one way or the other. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
If it finds in your favour, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
airlines will be forced to provide whatever compensation is due | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
and if they're signed up to the scheme, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
they'll have to abide by its decisions. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
It's a move that personal finance expert Sarah Pennells | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
thinks is long overdue. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
At the moment, we get really good protection | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
from EU consumer regulations that say you have to be given vouchers | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
for things like meals and phone calls | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
if a flight's delayed by more than a few hours. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
And you may get compensation as well | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
depending how long it's been delayed for. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
But the trouble is that some airlines | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
try and wriggle out of their obligations | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
just so they don't pay their passengers. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
It's exactly the kind of service | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
that Collette Hanlon is hoping will help resolve her complaint | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
after she lost 24 hours of her dream holiday. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
We chose to go on holiday to Florida | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
to spend some time together as a family. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
We were really looking forward to it. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
The boys were extremely excited. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Collette was travelling with her sister and two nephews | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
to Disney World in Florida, via New York. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
But a two-hour delay leaving Glasgow Airport, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
due to crew being unable to find | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
a safety slide certificate for the plane, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
meant they missed their connecting flight | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
and they were stranded in Newark Airport | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
in New York overnight. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Now, although they were put up in a nearby hotel, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
they still lost a day of their fortnight's holiday. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
When we went and spoke with the ground staff, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
what they advised was that if we wished to claim for compensation, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
we had to put that in writing on return from our vacation. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
So that's exactly what Collette did. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
They replied three weeks later, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
telling me that the delay was outwith their control | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
and they did not feel that this was suitable for compensation. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
After getting nowhere with the airline involved, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Colette took her complaint to the CAA. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
Took it to the CAA - the Civil Aviation Authority - | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
who investigated the information that I gave them | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and agreed that we were entitled to compensation. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
The CAA believed that the airline was bound by the EU regulations | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
which govern compensation pay-outs for delayed flights | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
but the airline disagreed | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
and, as the CAA didn't have the authority | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
to force its ruling on the airline, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
it couldn't help Collette get what she was due. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
And that's the key difference there'll be | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
once the ombudsman service starts up. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
It will be able to enforce rulings against all airlines | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
that are members of the scheme. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Sarah Pennells is cautiously optimistic. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
It's absolutely crucial | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
that they get all the airlines to sign up to this scheme | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
because otherwise, I think that consumers | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
can't have real confidence in their rights | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
when they book a holiday or take a flight. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
I think it's also important that this scheme is free, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
so consumers aren't charged to complain, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
perhaps because the airline | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
hasn't handled their complaint well in the first place. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Let us know if the scheme does or doesn't work for you. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
If you've got a story you'd like us to investigate, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
then get in touch with us via our Facebook page, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
BBC Rip Off Britain, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
our website bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
or email us at... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Well, I'm afraid we've come to the end of this programme already | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
but, before we go, I have to say I would be horrified | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
if I was prevented from boarding a plane to my holiday. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Not only would it be mortifyingly embarrassing | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
but the hassle and the expense of sorting everything out | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
would really give me the hump. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
SHE LAUGHS And that's putting it mildly, I can tell you! | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
All the more so, of course, if, as in the situations we saw earlier, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
it had all been down to just a mix-up or a mistake. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
And what's especially frustrating is that situations like those | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
can leave you dreadfully out of pocket. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
And that's because, as we heard, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
most insurance companies specifically exclude from their travel cover | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
everything to do with visas. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
So if, for any reason, there is an issue, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
it could have a very costly consequence. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
But, you know, thankfully, these types of situations are rare, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
but it's always worth double-checking | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
on what paperwork you need as soon as you book your holiday, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
so that if there is a problem, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
there's hopefully enough time to sort it all out. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
But that's where we've got to leave it for this time. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
We're going to see you very, very soon | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
to investigate more of your stories. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
So until then, from all of us here in the sun, bye-bye. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-Goodbye. -Bye-bye. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 |