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We asked you who's left you feeling ripped off when it comes to your | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
holidays and you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
Letting us come all this way | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
to be told we're going home on the next day. Just furious. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
It has tainted the whole experience of booking holidays and trust in companies. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
a simple mistake or indeed a catch in the small print, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
we'll find out why you are out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Your stories, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
Hello, and welcome to a special series of Rip-Off Britain here in Tenerife, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
where we're investigating all manner of problems that you've had with holidays and travel. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
Now, too many of them it would seem have been caused by those pesky terms and conditions, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
which can trip us up no matter where we are in the world. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
And I think that's certainly what has happened | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
to some of the people that we're going to be meeting today, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
who really do seem to have found themselves at the mercy of the small print, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
regardless of how black-and-white their situations may have seemed originally. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
In situations like that, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
it isn't always obvious where to go to get your problem resolved. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
So we are very, very grateful to one of our viewers | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
who has tipped us off about a little-known solution | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
that if trying to sort everything out is getting you absolutely nowhere, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
it could well be the answer to your troubles, as well. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Coming up... The claims companies promising to help you get back money you're owed by an airline, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
but would you be better off ignoring them altogether? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
I haven't seen a penny | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
and they said they're going to pay me any day now, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
but it isn't here yet. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
And the couples convinced they had booked hotel rooms with free cancellation, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
so why did they end up having to pay? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
I could not cancel, I was going to have to pay for the room. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
This is absolutely outrageous. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I just think it's unbelievable. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Ever since the doors for claiming compensation for delayed flights were flung open in 2012, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
our inbox has been inundated with complaints from those of you who, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
for one reason or another, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
have tried unsuccessfully to get money back from their airline. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
And that's paved the way for dozens of claim management companies to spring up | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and offer to guide you through the process in return, of course, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
for keeping a chunk of any pay-out you get. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
But, as the people we're about to meet found out, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
just because you've paid for someone else to do the work for you, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
it doesn't mean that getting back what you're owed will be any easier. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Airline delays at best can ruin your day | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
and at worst can wreck your holiday. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
That's why a landmark EU ruling in 2012 introduced a guarantee | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
that anyone delayed on flights in or out of the EU | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
for more than a certain period of time - usually three hours - | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
would be entitled to some sort of compensation. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
So Alison Wiltshire from South Wales was determined to get that money | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
after a near 3½-hour delay | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
on a British Airways flight to New York. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
The delay was at the start of our holidays, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
so once you get to the airport, you just want to get on holiday. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
And it did mean that we arrived in New York at 3.00 in the morning | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
and the fact that there is compensation available, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
you know, for a delay that is over three hours, I thought, well, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
I'm entitled to claim it, I'll make the claim and see what happens. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
When she returned home, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Alison started looking into how best to apply for compensation | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
and decided that following the instructions on BA's own website | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
would be the most straightforward option. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
But in the meantime, her son had been doing some research. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
When we came back from holidays, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
my son went online to just have a look about flight compensation | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
and there was a website that offered advice, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
so he completed a form with very basic information - our names, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:02 | |
the date we flew and the flight number - and sent an enquiry. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
He never got a response. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
In the meantime, I told him that I was going to take the claim up | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
directly with British Airways so he said, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
"Oh, that's fine, because I never heard anything back from this company." | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
And after two weeks, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Alison received a cheque for £1,200 from British Airways - | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
a welcome amount for the delay. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
It took about 20 minutes to complete the forms online | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
and I just got the cheque and I was delighted with that. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
As far as she was concerned, that was the end of the matter, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
but then a letter arrived from a Northampton-based firm | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
she had never heard of called Flight Delay Claims Team - | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
not to be confused with companies of a similar name - | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
and it was demanding a slice of her compensation. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
Totally out of the blue, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
I got a letter demanding a payment of over £700, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
saying I had breached my contract with them. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
It was the first I'd ever heard of this company and they were demanding | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
payment and if payment wasn't made within 10 to 14 days, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
that they would be taking legal action against me. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Alison looked further into the company and discovered it was one | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
specialising in obtaining compensation for delayed flights. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
So assuming it was something to do with her delayed flight to New York, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
for which she had already had the compensation, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
she called the company to ask why it thought it was entitled to any of her money. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
To her utter astonishment, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
the agent on the phone told her that the company was acting on her behalf | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
in all matters concerning this claim and when she asked how it had got all her details, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
the agent confirmed it was through the online form | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
that her son had submitted all that time ago. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
The company, they claimed that he filled the claim form in for, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
it wasn't even a claim form, it was an enquiry form. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
So I'm guessing that that's how they got my details, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
just from an initial enquiry that my son made. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
But as far as Alison was concerned, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
all her son had done was make an initial enquiry with the company, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
not instruct them to pursue a claim. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
However, Flight Delay Claims Team told her | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
that by ticking the terms-and-conditions box when submitting the form, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
her son had agreed to instruct the company to pursue a claim with BA | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
on her behalf and, as such, it was a legally binding contract. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Well, Alison was adamant that as she had already done all the hard work | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
by liaising for a refund direct with BA, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
there was no way she was going to accept any of this, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
especially when she looked further into what the company was saying. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
When you click on the submit button, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
buried in the terms and conditions is a little bit of information | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
that says you are entering into a contract. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
If you are going to enter into a contract, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
the details are supposed to be up front on the website. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Before you submit any information, you're supposed to know | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
that you're going to be charged for this service. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Alison's quite right on that, but in any case, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
she couldn't see that the company had done a thing to deserve any of her compensation, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
not least because when she was dealing with BA, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
at no point had the airline indicated that there was another company involved. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
So I sent an e-mail immediately | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
and followed that up with a recorded delivery letter | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
confirming that I had not dealt with this company, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I had not entered into a contract or an agreement with them | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
and to ask them to stop pursuing me for this debt. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
Alison hoped that was the end of it but, less than a month later, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
while she was away on another trip, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
a further letter arrived from Flight Delay Claims Team, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
this time with a more definite threat of legal action. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
My daughter rang us to say | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
that a rather official-looking letter had come | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
and when she opened it, she told me that it was Flight Delay Claims Team | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and that they were taking me to court. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
And this was on the third day of a 10-day holiday so, as you can imagine, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
I just wanted to get home, I wanted to look at this letter, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
I wanted to ring them, I wanted to sort it out. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
So yet another holiday now spoiled. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Alison called the company to protest, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
but was told to put it in writing and, despite doing so, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
she continued to receive letters demanding money. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
What's more, with each new one the company sent, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
the sum being asked for was creeping up. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
The amount differed every time they asked for it. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Initially they were asking for about £792, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
based on me getting over £2,000 compensation. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
And I didn't - I got £1,200 compensation. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
But the amount they asked me for, every time I got anything from them | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
asking for payment, the amount went up. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Furious that Flight Delay Claims Team should not only want | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
a slice of her compensation for work it hadn't done, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
but it was also threatening to take her to court, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Alison went straight to the top and contacted one the directors | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
and that seemed to do the trick as the case has now been dropped | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
and she is no longer being pursued for the money. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
However, when we contacted the company about Alison's case, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
it told us that though it's sorry to receive any complaints, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
due to data protection it's not able to discuss individual cases. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
But Alison fears there may be other people keen to claim compensation | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
for delayed flights, who have got themselves mixed up with similar claims management companies | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
and that they might be losing out as a result. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
They are not regulated so, basically, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
they can do whatever they like. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
From this forum that we joined, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
we found hundreds of people that have had a bad experience | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
with just this one company | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
and I'm sure they're not the only company out there. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
And she's right on that because we have received a number of e-mails | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
and letters from other people who found that getting involved | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
with a claims management company to go after compensation for delayed flights | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
can very often turn out to be a lot more hassle than doing it yourself. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
Among the people who'd say that is Lovelace Akpojaro | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
from Dartford in Kent. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
He decided to make a claim after being stuck in Germany | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
with his partner and daughter | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
because of another delayed British Airways flight. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
It was a stopover at Dusseldorf which was supposed to be for about an hour and a half | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
and we got delayed there for nine hours and, inevitably, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
when you're in the middle of these things, they don't tell you anything. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
They gave us vouchers to get something to eat and that was nice, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
but after a few hours then it's really starting to get quite inconvenient now, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
especially when you've got a young child. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
When they got home, the family contacted BA to see what it advised | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
about claiming compensation. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
But Lovelace didn't think it sounded straightforward | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
and, at the same time, he was tempted by an ad | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
for what seemed a much simpler option. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
So here's the thing - remember when your flight was delayed? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Well, that lost time could be worth hundreds of pounds in compensation. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
At the time, there was a lot of campaigns going on on TV | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
for airFair flight delays. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
There were adverts in magazines, so on and so forth, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
and it just sort of came at a very convenient time. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
I thought, well, give it to the experts, airFair, they're on TV, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
they look slick, they will be able to do a good job. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Certain that his nine-hour delay would qualify him for a pay-out, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Lovelace went to the airFair website and filled in the enquiry form. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
Somebody called me up and talked me through what they can do, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
and they're very efficient, they can track down exactly what happened | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
once you give them the flight number | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
and I told them that we were delayed for nine hours | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and they were quite encouraging, saying, well, we should definitely... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
This should be a slam dunk, basically. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
You know, there will definitely be some compensation at the end of this. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
But four weeks after submitting his claim when he'd heard nothing further from airFair, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
his partner approached another claims company | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
to see if it would make better progress. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And Lovelace contacted airFair to let them know. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I was starting to think that the time it was taking, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
it wasn't really worth paying 36% of the compensation to them | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
for this service that they were giving me. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
So I phoned them up and asked them to withdraw. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Initially they said, that'll be fine but you will be subject to some fees | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
because this is outside the 14-day period, which... | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
If it's got to be, it's got to be. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
AirFair pointed out that because Lovelace was cancelling his contract | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
after four weeks and the company had already submitted a claim | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
on his behalf, he would be liable to pay some costs. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
And the company suggested he contacted BA directly to say that, from now on, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
he would be taking the claim forward so all enquiries should be directed his way. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
But when Lovelace got in touch with BA to do just that, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
the airline had some unexpected news. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
It told him that his claim had already been settled some weeks previously | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
and in fact his compensation, a total of £643, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
had already been paid to a firm of solicitors | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
acting on behalf of airFair. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Astonished to hear this, Lovelace contacted airFair again | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
and the company said it would check its records and send him compensation. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
But weeks on, with no word from them, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Lovelace began to doubt whether he would ever see his money. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
But determined to get his compensation, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and backed up with a letter from BA confirming it had paid out, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
airFair finally agreed to hand over his money - minus its 36% fee. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
Yet five months on after first contacting airFair, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
he was still waiting for his cheque. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
I haven't seen a penny | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and they said that they are going to pay me any day now, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but it isn't here yet. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
What they want to pay me, they want to pay me minus their fees | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
for five months of frustration. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Well, six days after we filmed with Lovelace, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
he did finally received his cheque and he thinks the whole process | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
of claiming his compensation was unnecessarily complicated and costly. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
We put that to airFair which responded by saying a series of unfortunate events | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
have surrounded this case and that though it had submitted Lovelace's claim right away, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
BA hadn't let it know that the compensation had been paid out. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
In fact, airFair went on to say that BA consistently fails | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
to advise claims companies of successful claims | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and it blames the airline for the confusion and delays in Lovelace's case. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
It said when BA issued the cheque, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
it didn't provide any reference numbers, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
making it impossible to determine which client the payment related to, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
which is why it was unable to tell Lovelace that he had been successful with his claim. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
The company was also keen to point out that as soon as it | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
was made aware that it had won the case on Lovelace's behalf, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
it sent him not just his cheque but also, as a gesture of goodwill, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
a refund of its success fee of £230.81. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
And it pointed out that over the last 12 months, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
it has regained a total of £1.2 million compensation | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
for delayed passengers. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Well, we took airFair's criticisms back to BA, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
but while the airline admitted mistakes were made in handling this case, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
it emphasised that there is no need for customers to involve claim firms | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
which will keep back a proportion of any compensation. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
It advises customers to claim directly through the BA website, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
which it says can be done by filling out one simple form online. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
And with the benefit of hindsight, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
Lovelace now wishes he had done just that. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Knowing what I know now, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
I definitely wish that I was just a bit more persistent | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and just stuck with it and approached BA | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
and just gone solely through them. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I know it would've been far less of a problem | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
than going with these so-called specialists. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
The saying there's no such thing as a free lunch rings especially true | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
with the people in this next film. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Believing that they booked a holiday that included free cancellation, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
they were shocked to discover that when, unfortunately, they had to change their plans, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
the free part of the cancellation process | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
didn't seem to exist after all. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
And despite thinking that they had done everything they could | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
to prevent themselves losing any money, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
I'm afraid that's exactly what did happen. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
With the increase in holiday-makers who love to plan their own trips, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
hotel booking websites have boomed. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
All you need to do is type in where you're going and the dates you'll be arriving | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
and these sites will provide a whole list of suitable hotels, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
from the cheapest to the most expensive. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Laura and Michael may live on the sun-drenched island of Majorca, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
but they still like to get away on a holiday every now and again. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
And they have always found hotel booking sites a great help | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
when deciding where to stay. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
I am hopeless at going online. I have no patience. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
But Michael's brilliant, he loves it. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
He sits on the price-comparison sites | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
and it was on one of these price-comparison sites | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
that he found Agoda. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Agoda.com is a well-known travel booking website | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
which compares prices of hotels and even flights. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
Laura and Michael were planning a mini break to Barcelona | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and found a really good rate on Agoda for a Travelodge there. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
And the couple say they deliberately chose a slightly more expensive room rate | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
because it stated on the booking page that doing so | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
would give them the option to cancel free of charge if they needed to. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
We paid quite a bit more, I paid quite a bit more, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
but I knew I could cancel within five days. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
But once they had made the booking via the website, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
they realised the hotel was not in the part of Barcelona they wanted to stay in, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
so Laura called Agoda.com to cancel. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
But she was in for a shock. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
She was very calm and she told me in no uncertain terms | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I could not cancel, that I was going to have to pay for the room, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
and I couldn't in any way explain to her, I had the cancellation policy. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
"Oh, no, you don't, you've opted not to have it." | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
The problem was that while Laura is certain that at the time of booking | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
she was promised free cancellation, the confirmation e-mail, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
which she didn't read in detail, says something very different, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
stating that if the room is cancelled, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
the total price of the reservation will be charged. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
This is absolutely outrageous. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
I just think it's unbelievable. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
You've got two contradictory things. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
One I saw, unfortunately one I didn't see until afterwards. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
But it was too late anyway, even if I had phoned them up and said, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
"Look, I've booked with a cancellation policy, look here," | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
they still would have charged me. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
There was nothing you could do. You were hitting your head on a brick wall with these people. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
We contacted Agoda.com about Laura's story, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
but it failed to get back to us. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
We do know, however, that the company insists | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
that the rate they selected was non-refundable | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
as stated in the confirmation e-mail. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
But Travelodge has offered the couple a free night at a hotel | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
as a gesture of goodwill. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Even so, back at her home in Majorca, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Laura feels the booking process is confusing and misleading | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
and is annoyed at the idea of losing so much money | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
on a hotel room she never even stayed in. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
This is about principle. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
I cannot be the only one and I really, really hope that somehow, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
that other people, if they know about it, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
that they won't do the same. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Well, here at Rip-Off Britain, we've heard from a number of other people who have fallen foul | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
of the cancellation policies on hotel booking websites | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and, as a result, been left hundreds of pounds out of pocket. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Many would say the small print and different rates available | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
make it all too easy to get confused and travel expert Bob Atkinson | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
agrees that with all of these sites packed with different deals and rates, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
you need to be absolutely sure that when you see an offer or anything like free cancellation, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
it definitely applies to the room that you have booked. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
As with any transaction online, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
you need to be careful when you're research and booking. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Experienced users may well be aware that a particular word is actually there | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
because it's part of a functionality of a website | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
and is not an actual promise. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
And Bob also says that even if you're sure the booking page | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
is offering free cancellation, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
you should always check the terms and conditions, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
as they can sometimes differ. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Actually do read them and ask yourself the fundamental question with a hotel booking, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
if I need to change this booking or if I need to cancel this booking, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
what would I need to do? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
And so that you've got proof of everything, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
as you progress through your online booking, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Bob says it may be worth keeping a copy of each stage of the process. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
My advice is to take screenshots of the transaction as you do the transaction | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
and have a good copy of not only the confirmation screen | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
but also of anything such as cancellation or amendment fees | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
that they may be charging. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
That is something that David Neill from Ledbury now wishes he had done. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
David enjoys trips around Europe | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
and he likes to make a rough plan for each trip before he goes, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
which sometimes involves provisionally booking hotels along the route. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
And last year, he was looking into a three-day drive | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
around the south of France with his grandchildren. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Oh, that looks lovely. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
We went onto the booking.com site and put in the requirements. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
One room, two adults, two children. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Put the ages of the children, 11 and 12. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Came up with a selection of hotels to choose from, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
which clearly said on the screen "free cancellation, no payment". | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
This four-star hotel was a great price in a good location | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
and David is absolutely certain that the booking form made clear | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
that you would pay for the room on arrival | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and there was a flexible cancellation policy. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
No two ways about it, you know, at that stage of planning, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
we would not have booked a hotel room with no... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
..without free cancellation. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
We just couldn't do that. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
But after pencilling the hotels, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
David noticed that the cost of flights was way too expensive. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
So he decided to put his plans on the back burner. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
He contacted Booking.com to cancel his booking | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
but was told he would need to call the hotel directly. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
I contacted the hotel in France, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
they then asked for a copy of the confirmation. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
When she had that, she said it was a non-refundable amount. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:52 | |
Because they had taken the money out of my bank, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
they couldn't cancel it, which I couldn't really understand. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
The hotel pointed out to David that its confirmation e-mail clearly stated | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
that he would be charged for the room if he chose to cancel. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
But David is resolute that when he had booked, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
he chose the free-cancellation option | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and that he wasn't supposed to be charged until arrival. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
But without a screenshot of the booking, he couldn't prove any of that. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
We had deliberately gone for a free cancellation on the hotel. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
We're not novices. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
It was quite clear it said free cancellation, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
so I was somewhat surprised to find out on the confirmation e-mail | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
that even if we cancelled then, it is payment in full. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
And indeed, two days later, it had gone out of my bank account. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Both the hotel and Booking.com refused to refund David the £320 | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
for the room that he had never slept in. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Booking.com told us that it offers a variety of different rate | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
and policy options from which travellers can choose. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
And that on this occasion David chose a low non-refundable rate, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
which it says was made clear at every stage in the booking process. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Booking.com went on to say that when David first asked to cancel | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
the booking, it did try to help by contacting the hotel. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
But it says the accommodation was unwilling | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
to waive the associated cancellation fees. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Well, clearly in both these cases, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
there is very clear disagreement between the two sides. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Laura and David clearly believe | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
they chose the free cancellation option when booking their rooms, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
but equally two big-name websites insist that they didn't. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
And while it could be that they did make a mistake, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
there's no doubt that with the variety of options on sites like these, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
it can be all too easy for a booking to end up | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
not quite as you would expect it. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
So Bob Atkinson says the key thing is always to check your confirmation e-mail | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
and query anything that does not tally | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
with what you thought you'd booked. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
If this doesn't match up, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
you should contact the company pretty much straightaway | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and give them the opportunity to do something about it at the beginning. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
But after this experience, David, who has travelled the world | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
and booked many dozens of hotels over the years, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
reckons that booking sites need to be much clearer | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
about the cancellation policies that are attached to different rates. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
Basically, when I book something, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
I want it to say what it does on the screen that I am looking at. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:34 | |
I'm not stupid. I can read things. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
When we get a £30 cheap room, it says non-refundable. That's fine. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
But if it says free cancellation, it should mean free cancellation. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
Still to come On Rip-off Britain... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Getting nowhere resolving your holiday complaint? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
We'll reveal how an avenue you won't have heard of could be the answer. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
It was just a wonderful feeling | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
because we worked so hard to get to this point, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
and to hear that we had won the case was just absolutely fantastic. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
Fantastic. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:11 | |
Our travel expert Simon Calder is full of the secrets | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
that will save you money on your travels. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
He has got plenty of tips on everything, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
from how to avoid the crowds to the best way to steer clear of those tourist traps. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
This time, Tunisia. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
Three years on from the terrorist attack at a hotel in Sousse that left many people dead, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
the north African favourite is now finally back on the map for UK visitors | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
and, to entice us to return, there are some great-value deals. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
There are far fewer flights than there used to be | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
with the main departures from Heathrow, Gatwick and Manchester. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
So you could get a flight from your local airport | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
and change en route in somewhere like Paris. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Most flights go to Tunisian capital Tunis, which is well worth a visit. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
You can get lost in the maze of ancient Medinahs, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
relax on sandy beaches or sample the delightful tasty Tunisian cuisine. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
It's somewhere I like to base myself, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
partly because it is a fascinating port city, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
but also because it is the hub of the excellent Tunisian railway network, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
one of the country's great joys. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Resorts such as Hammamet, Sousse and Monastir | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
are very well linked to the capital. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
A first-class rail ticket from Sousse to Tunis costs just £4 or so. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
But remember, children aged ten or over are classed as adults. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
Consider a day trip by train | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
to the nearby archaeological site of Carthage. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
But wherever you go, keep on top of when you need to change more money. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
I reckon every country has its favourite foreign currency | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and for Tunisia it is the euro. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
But British pounds are still widely accepted | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
at reasonable rates of exchange. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Just make sure you change little and often | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
so you don't get left with a wad of Tunisian cash | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
to try to swap back at the end of your trip. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Tunisia is one of a number of countries that bans tourists | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
from moving money in and out of the country. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
So remember, no respectable bureau de change in the UK | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
will supply or exchange the Tunisian dinar. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Upon arrival at the airport, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
exchange a small amount of money and then shop around for the best deals. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
Unusually, it is worth checking with hotels | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
as they have been known to offer competitive rates. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
By the way, don't be tempted to think, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
oh, I will just take the money home with me and bring it back on my next trip. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
The Tunisian authorities have been known to conduct spot checks | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
on departing passengers, looking for Tunisian banknotes. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
So instead be generous. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
Keep the change. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
That's a first. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
Tunisia is an Islamic country and, of course, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
you should respect local customs, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
especially during the holy month of Ramadan, which, in 2018, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
runs from mid-May to mid-June. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
To avoid causing inadvertent offence, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
men should save shorts for the beach and the hotel. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Women should cover up most of their arms | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
and most of their legs most of the time. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
When in doubt, err on the side of modesty. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Now, when part of a holiday goes wrong, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
knowing where to take your concerns to can be tricky to say the least. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
And if you are being passed from pillar to post between the companies you're dealing with, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
it can be really difficult and very frustrating to get the whole thing resolved. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
But one Rip-Off Britain viewer, who found themselves in exactly this position, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
stumbled across a route that even we hadn't heard of. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
So if you're hitting a brick wall trying to get your problem sorted, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
then listen up as we have some advice | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
that could be just what you are looking for. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Sometimes holidays simply don't go to plan, whether it's bad weather, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
sudden ill health or even long delays. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
All manner of unexpected events can not only ruin your plans, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
but in some cases leave you seriously out of pocket as well. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
As was the case for Jenny and Charles Hill from north London, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
who had planned the trip of a lifetime | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
on the trans-Siberian railway from Russia through Mongolia to China. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
It was like no trip we had ever thought of before, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
so it was going to be special. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Something that we could remember and look back on | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
and really have some memories which would be absolutely fantastic. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
The train journey was from Saint Petersburg to Moscow, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
right through Russia and onwards and so we had to fly out from the UK | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
to Saint Petersburg and we had a stopover in Berlin. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
But no sooner had the couple flown into Saint Petersburg | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
then their trip of a lifetime began to unravel. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
We got to the place to collect our luggage | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
and we stood there and we stood there | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
and the carousel went round and round | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
and our luggage didn't appear. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
And everybody else's seemed to have and had departed so... | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
A horrible sinking feeling of, you know, where on earth is it? | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
And what has happened to it? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Both the couple's suitcases were missing | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
with everything they needed for their holiday inside. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
Our holiday was 19 days | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
and we only had the clothes we were standing up in. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
Travelling on the train, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
nothing is supplied so you had to have some food things with you, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
which were in our cases, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
and you had to have all those things as well as your clothing. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
There was the awful feeling, is this the end of the trip? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
We were seriously considering flying back to the UK | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
and organising that and just saying, scrub the whole thing. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Their airline, airberlin, reassured them | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
that when their suitcases turned up it would be in contact. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
But faced with a very long journey and none of the things they needed, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Jenny and Charles turned to their travel insurance company for help. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
I phoned the insurance company, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
explained that we needed a lot of things as we were going on the train | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
and they said, that's fine, just go ahead, get whatever you need. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
So instead of seeing various things we had been planning to see, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
we had to find somewhere to shop. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
So it was actually quite worrying, yeah, quite stressful. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
But at least the couple had the reassurance that the extra money spent | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
could be claimed back once they got home. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
And the day before they were due to catch the train, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
they received some more good news. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
We were returning back to the hotel with a suitcase and the things we had bought | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
and got a phone call about 7.00 in the evening | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
saying that one suitcase had been found. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Jenny's suitcase was at the airport ready to be picked up. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I was very relieved that this first suitcase was mine. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
It was hers. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
I would finally have some clothes that I could wear | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
and you were a bit disappointed that your suitcase was still missing. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
Yes. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
But with one of their cases safely returned, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
the couple set off on their train journey across Siberia. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
And it wasn't long before airberlin contacted them again. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
We were halfway across Russia, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
we got a text saying the second suitcase had arrived | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
and could be sent on to us. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
But as we were constantly on the move, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
it was impossible to really meet up with our suitcase, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
so we asked for it to be sent back to the UK | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
and arranged for it to be delivered to our house here. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
-That's Saint Petersburg. -Yes. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
But after their mammoth 19 days' journey, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
the couple returned home to find the suitcase had not arrived. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
And we got back and the suitcase wasn't here so, you know, gosh, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
what on earth has happened to it? Where is it? | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
And all enquiries that we made to airport terminals | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
led to no result at all. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
No-one seemed to know where it was. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Now, according to official Civil Aviation Authority guidelines, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
if your suitcase has been missing for over 21 days, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
then it is officially declared as lost | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
and you should be entitled to up to £1,000 compensation. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
But in order to claim this money, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
Jenny and Charles needed confirmation from airberlin | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
that their suitcase had been declared lost. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Without it they wouldn't get anywhere claiming back the money | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
from either the airline or indeed their travel insurance. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
And I'm afraid that's how things turned out. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
The couple say that despite numerous e-mails, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
their inquiries to the airline went unanswered. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
You honestly don't know what to do | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
because you think your insurance will pay | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
and then there is a reason why they can't | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
and you can't get hold of airberlin. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
You should have rights as a customer, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
but the whole process is going nowhere. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
The battle with airberlin for compensation went on for two years, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
although during that time the airline did make what the couple thought was a derisory offer. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
We finally got an e-mail back saying, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
"Since the replacement clothing you bought during your stay can be kept for future use, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
"we will refund 50% of your expenses, amounting to 653 euros. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
"But since we have to repay your insurance with the £500 they have paid you, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
"this amount would need to be deducted for the final settlement. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
"The remaining refund of 75 euros has been transferred to your bank account." | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
That offer was an insult, I mean, really... | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
..terrible. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
Thoroughly disappointed with the final amount they were offered, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
which fell far short of the value of the contents of their case, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
and indeed frustrated by the time it was taking to sort it all out, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
they seem to be running out of options. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
But then a friend recommended another avenue she could try. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
It is known as the European Small Claims Court | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
and is a court system that works in much the same way | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
as a Small Claims Court here in the UK. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
You can make a claim against any company that is outside the UK | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
but part of the EU. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
So I went to the website for the European Small Claims Court, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
found the relative claim forms - there is four of them to do. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
It takes three or four days to be sure you have got it right, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
to look at the guidelines and understand what is being asked for. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
Then you post it off to the Crown Court. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Jenny put in a claim against airberlin for £811.51, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
which included the total expenses incurred, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
the court processing fee and interest for the delay in payment. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
And to her delight and relief, just over a month later, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
she discovered the whole amount had been paid directly into her bank account. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Oh, it was just a wonderful feeling | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
because we worked so hard to get to this point | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
and so many times had thought we weren't going to manage it | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
and to hear that we had won the case was just absolutely fantastic. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
Fantastic. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
Fantastic feeling of relief and really it was quite astonishing | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
and to feel that we didn't have to go any further | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
and fight this any more. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
The relative ease with which the process was resolved | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
with the European Small Claims Court compares very favourably | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
with the long drawn-out battle with airberlin, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
which since filming this programme has gone into administration. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
A fact which may explain at least some of the delays | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
the couple experienced. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
But using this little-known court could well be the solution | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
to other disputes as well. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
And indeed, solicitor Neil Quantic | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
is currently weighing up whether it might help in his case. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
He feels he has been left over 4,000 euros out of pocket | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
after a villa he booked for a family holiday in Marbella | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
left him feeling disappointed. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
We bought a week's stay in a luxury villa | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
with a swimming pool and a Jacuzzi. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
This swimming pool was totally unusable | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
and the Jacuzzi was out of action. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
The villa was dirty, there was broken furniture, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
the air conditioning didn't work. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
But critically it wasn't what we had paid for. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
On day one of their holiday, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Neil contacted the owners of the villa to express his concerns. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
But it appeared there was very little they could do to put things right. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
We had no reassurance at all that the owners | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
could rectify the problem at all, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
let alone in a time frame that was going to be acceptable for us, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
given that we were only there for seven days. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Neil was offered an alternative villa, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
but he didn't consider that up to scratch either. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
It was a dumping ground, it wasn't ready for holiday let | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
and it wasn't anything close to the villa that we had booked, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
so we didn't want to stay there as an alternative. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
It wasn't anything like the villa we had booked. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Neil and his family didn't stay at either villa | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
and instead drove around Marbella until they found an alternative. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
And once the holiday was over Neil started seeing how he could get back | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
the 4,000 euros he had paid for a villa that he didn't even stay in. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
But he says he was told by the Spanish owners that, as he lives in the UK, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
he stands very little chance of getting any money back. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
We totally hit a brick wall with the owners. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
They made it quite clear they wouldn't refund any of the rental we paid | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
and really the focus turned | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
to not whether they should or shouldn't refund us | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
but a view from them that we would never be able to catch up with them | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
because they weren't resident in England, they were resident in Spain. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
12 months on, Neil hasn't received anything from the owners of the villa, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
but he too wonders if the European Small Claims Court could help | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
and, despite spending over 20 years in law, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
it is an option that Neil didn't even know existed. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
I am a practising solicitor and have been all my career. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
I have been dealing with UK courts, not a consumer specialist, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
but hadn't come across at any point the fact that this European system | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
was available to consumers and could be used without the help of lawyers | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
in just the same way as our own small claims system | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
can be used here in the UK. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
And while there is no certainty that he will win his case, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
which would mean losing the fee you pay to register the claim, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Neil is just delighted to have another avenue to try. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
Making a claim against a foreign company abroad might seem daunting, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
but, as both Jenny and Charles found out, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
the whole process is surprisingly straightforward. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
And while Adam Mortimer from the European Consumer Centre | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
says the claim court should only be used as a last resort, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
it is one that can be used in a real variety of situations | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
where you feel a company owes you money. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Such a wide range of cases that you can use this in. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
Anything from flight delays, from just general consumer purchases, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
goods not being delivered, car hire, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
purchases that you have made for accommodation, the list is endless. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Any kind of consumer purchase. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
Obviously as the UK heads towards Brexit, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
there is some doubt over whether in future we will be able | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
to make a claim through the European Small Claims Court. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
With leaving the EU, European Small Claims Court may not be an option for you. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
This could mean getting a lawyer and taking a court case | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
through the country where the trader is based, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
incurring high fees and a lengthy delay. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
This is something that we'd obviously not like to see for consumers. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
So perhaps the best advice is, get in quick. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
And while Neil waits to hear the outcome in his case, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Jenny remains thrilled at how it all worked out in hers. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
Without the European Small Claims Court, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
we would not have been successful. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
We would not have had the money refunded. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
So the public really need to know about this | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
and the message needs to get out that there is something you can do. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
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Well, let's hope we've giving you plenty of pointers on what to do | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
if you ever find yourself in situations | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
like the ones we have been hearing about today. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
And remember, if all that fine print in the contract | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
is a little too complicated and off-putting, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
you can always take your business elsewhere. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
That's true and that very wise advice is just about where we have to leave it for today. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
But I am delighted to say | 0:42:49 | 0:42:50 | |
we have lots more Rip-Off Britain programmes | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
coming up over the next few months. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
Not just on the subject of holidays but investigating your stories | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
about food and indeed any consumer topic | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
that has left you feeling let down or indeed ripped off. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
And of course it goes without saying, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
we would not have any of these programmes without you | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
and without all of the experiences you are prepared to share with us | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
so that others don't get caught out in the same way. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
So please do keep your stories, your e-mails and your letters coming. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
We really are very grateful for every single one of them. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
And we will be back to look into more of them very soon. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
-So, until then, from all of us on the team, bye-bye. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 |