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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off.

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think it is very, very wrong for what they have done. The bank pass

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charges, upon charges, upon charges. Legally it was right, morally, that

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is where the question and doubt comes in my view. You contacted us

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in your thousands, by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the street. And

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the message could not be clearer. You don't always get a straight

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answer, they try to to be you off. I'm not happy at all. There is

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always the small print with the clause in thaw didn't realise.

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are being ripped off big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off,

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a simple mistake, or a catch in the small print, we will find out why

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you are out of pocket, and what you can do about it. Keep asking the

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questions, go to the top if you have to. We do get results, that is

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the interesting thing. Your stories, your money, this is Rippon.

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- Rip-Off Britain, welcome. Our aim is to investigate your stories and

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give you the advice you need. We take on the companies no matter

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how big or small on your behalf, and get the answers you deserve.

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Today we will tackle the many pitfalls you have been talking

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about in your holidays. The major concern is what many of you think

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are unjust surcharges and administration fees.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, we tackle the issue of on-line

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booking charges, why should you have to pay an extra cost just to

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book a flight. We have made an extra �620 last year, for doing

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absolutely nothing except booking a ticket with them and giving them

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the custom. Our travel expert had some brilliant advice for the

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people calling in to our pop-up shop. It is the airline which said,

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when you turned up at the airport with the story, they said sorry we

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won't take you. That strikes me as really, really hard hearted.

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On to a subject, which judges from your e-mail, is one of the single

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most infuriating things about buying a flight, that is the extra

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charges that you will often need to pay, just for the privilege of

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being able to use your own debit or credit card to purchase the ticket.

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Surcharges like this have come under severe criticism from

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consumer groups, and most recently from the Office of Fair Trading,

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who have now started a formal investigation into whether or not

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companies are actually hiding these extra costs from customers when

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they are booking on-line. They are cost that is can very quickly add

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up, especially if you are travelling in a group, and with

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unairline in particular. Meet some of the members of the

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Society of Mary in Ipswich. Rosemary, Bridgette, Celia and

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David. They are an anglo-Catholic group, who travel as a pilgrimage

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each year to the Festival of Our Lady of Grace in Italy. It is a big

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prosession, which takes the statue of Our Lady down from the basilka

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where it is normally kept, down to the town church there she remains

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for a week. It is very important to us, the statue they originally take

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to the prosession originally came from Ipswich, to the best of our

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knowledge and belief. It has a strong link. Celia books all the

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flights with Ryan air strikes the only airline that flies where and

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when they want. She is always looking to keep costs down. People

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can't afford to go on the trips, especially in the economic climate.

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A lot of people who come are priests, they are not high earners.

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Also the children with their families, they are not well off or

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anything like that. We want to keep the costs right down so people can

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feel that they can come. Ryanair, like many other airlines,

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charge an administration fee when you book using a debit or credit

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card. That is a cost added just for the privilege of paying by card.

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Celia is not happy about it. We are getting nothing extra for it, it is

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just making some extra money for them. I know they have to make a

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profit, they are a business, but I think they are passing it on for a

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service that isn't a service. Ryanair charge these fees per

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person, per flight, they are currently �6 each way. For a family

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of four going on a return trip, that is an extra �48. When Celia

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last flew Ryanair the charge was �5 each way. Which for a group the

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size of her's, really does add up. The actual booking fee for paying

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for the tickets on-line would have cost us �10 a person, last year

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that would have been all together, we had 62 people, including the

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children, last year, that would have been �620. Remember, that's

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not the cost of the flights, it is purely and simply the booking fee.

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It affects the very people, like us, you know, who are trying to keep

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the costs down. You have worked incredibly hard to get all the

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other costs down. I did actually ask Ryanair if they did a group

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rate, some airlines do, and they said, no.

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But the size of the group should be irrelevant, because for every debit

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card transaction, the airline is only charged about 20p by the bank,

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however many people might be included in the booking. So if

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customers have to pay �6 for each leg of a flight, that is quite a

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mark-up. Recently, Which? Magazine launched

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a supercomplaint, claiming charges like this penalise customers,

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especially if they are not made clear. The European Parliament

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agrees, it has introduced legislation to make them illegal by

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2013. MEP Brian Simpson is chair of the Transport Committee. The new

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directive is to stop companies charging excessive amounts for use

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of credit and debit cards, when they themselves are not being

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charged those amounts. It is seen as a protection for the consumers

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that they are not getting ripped off on credit and debit card

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charges. I just think it is a money-making tool for airlines at

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the expense of the passengers. Office of Fair Trading has also

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called for such charges to end. But, until they do, on Ryanair there is

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only one way to avoid the booking charge. The airline has recently

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launched what it calls a cash passport card, which is a prepaid

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MasterCard that you get free from the airline, and then load up with

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cash before using it. Pay with that, and there is no booking fee. But

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otherwise, there is. Not that Ryanair sees it that way.

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In typically robust manner they But after the amount of money they

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paid out, our pilgrims wouldn't agree. For the one group they have

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made an extra shall we say �620 last year for doing absolutely

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nothing, except booking a ticket with them, giving them the custom.

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We're at the Trafford Centre in Manchester, for the first time Rip-

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Off Britain has opened its very first pop of up shop.

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We have deemed up with BBC Learning to transform this shop into a one-

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stop consumer advice shop, just for the weekend. That is because here

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at Rip-Off Britain, we think it is really important for us to meet

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people face-to-face, and hear your problems. And, this is the perfect

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opportunity to do exactly that. We have a fantastic team of experts

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here to help you with your problems. With a bit of luck we will put you

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in touch with the right person to give you the right advice and send

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you away feeling happier. It is amaze to go hear all the

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different stories people have been telling us. Opening up our very own

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pop-up shop here on Rippon is a great idea, it has given us the

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opportunity to hear all those gripes and confusions and doubts

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that are going on in your mind. I'm glad we are being kept busy, that

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is what we are here to do. Clay popped in to see Simon after a

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travel nightmare. He was taking his family on holiday from Manchester

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to Corfu and on to Albania. But his suit cautious containing his on

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ward travel tickets went missing between Manchester and Corfu.

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asked them about catching the boat across Albania, and I have tickets

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booked for travel across, so it is going to happen. The lady there

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said, sorry, but I don't know when this case is going to be coming. So

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I said what do I do then. She just told me she didn't know. I have to

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stay in Corfu two more days, paying hotels and accommodation, plus I

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paid extra money paying for the boat again to go across, I lost two

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days in the hotel in Albania. I have been waiting for this holiday

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for a year and they ruined it. were very badly advised in Corfu,

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to say there is nothing we can do was completely reprehensible, I

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have heard it said that we can't have cases flying around Europe if

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there is no person on the plane. That is complete tosh, the bags go

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missing the whole time, they are reunited, the vast majority by

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putting them on other people's planes.

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Are you saying he should pursue this to get an apology and some

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money as well? There is no automatic right to compensation if

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your bag goes astray but is then reunited with you. But in this case,

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because you were not given proper information, you weren't given a

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perfectly rational solution, you can quite legitimately go to them

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and say your agent on the ground in Corfu messed up t cost me a great

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deal of stress and money, please make a contribution towards that.

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The only long-term thing, I think, to say, Julia, is if you have

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really important stuff, never ever put it in case that you are

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checking in. Because you simply don't know what is going to happen

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to it. Anne Scott was also keen to meet

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Simon, to see if he could help her with a claim she had rejected by

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her insurance company, after her son lost his passport on a cruise

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ship in Spain. He reported it to the cruise desk, and he was told

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because I had a photocopy of his passport we would be OK in the

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airport, and we took their word for it, we arrived at Barcelona airport,

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he was turned back, he had to go to the consulate, we flew without him.

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He they issued him with a temporary travel document that cost him over

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100 euro, then new flights, taxi journalies back and forth, and the

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train back home. I rang to claim and was told that on my policy, on

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page 11, right down at the bottom, travel documents were not covered.

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Even had I seen it, I wouldn't have assumed that meant passports.

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know my insurance doesn't cover travel developments either, I

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bought a cheap one through a comparison website, and I only

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wanted it for certain things. Did you go for a more upmarket one?

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went through a price comparison website and took the cheapest.

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cost you �500, an awful lot of money, and yet I assume it was the

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airline which said, when you turned up at the airport, with this story,

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with a photocopy, they said, sorry, we will not take you. That strikes

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me as really, really hard hearted, it is just one of those things,

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where, you feel what a swiz, I completely sympathise, it seems

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really unjust, but I can't see any way of getting a bean back.

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If you want to make sure your travel insurance policy covers you,

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should the worst happen, Simon is here with more useful information.

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It is not illegal to leave the country without travel insurance,

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but it is pretty silly. For just a few pounds you can pick up a no-

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frills policy that will cover you for all the basics. Most important

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of which is medical treatment abroad, and if necessary, an air

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balm ambulance to bring you home. - - air ambulance to bring you home.

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You must notify insurers of any preexisting medical conditions. If

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you don't, and that trouble flares up on hole day, they won't pay out.

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Skiing in the alps, white water rafting through Africa. If you are

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planning anything remotely risky, for goodness sake tell the travel

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insurance company in advance, otherwise you won't be covered. A

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travel insurance policy isn't a carte blanche to do whatever you

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want, including having a couple of drinks and do something reckless.

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Your travel insurance policy doesn't cover stuff you do when

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you're drunk. You might think you have a

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perfectly legitimate claim, but the insurer won't pay out. That could

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be because you haven't got the right documentation, whether that's

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a letter from the doctor, or a certificate from the police. If you

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have been robbed. And any photoic evidence you can gather could come

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to the grb photographic evidence you can gather could come to your

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aid. If you are still not happy with your travel insurance company

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not settling up, go further. There is one country that insists on

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travel insurance, it is Cuba, and you won't even be let through

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immigration unless you can produce a valid certificate. If you are

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planning more than one holiday in a year, and I certainly will be, then

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for goodness sake get an annual insurance policy, it works out at

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far better value. Still to come on Rip-Off Britain,

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our experts have been rushed off their feet at our pop-up shop for

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consumer advice. Any time of year with the holiday company simply

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can't fill a space, they will say, OK, no single supplement, it might

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be the backend of November, but you will get some good deals.

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Travelling with any kind of mobility problems means extra care

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for planning, in particular to make sure where you are going to stay

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can accommodate you, and has all the right facilities. Doreen Drake

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knows all about this better than most. Largely confined to a

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mobility scooter, she totally adores going on cruises and has

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always managed to book exactly the sort of room she needs, until her

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most recent trip, when she wasn't given one, as far as the holiday

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company was concerned, it seems, she just wasn't disabled enough.

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Doreen Drake enjoyed life to the full until 11 years ago she

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discovered she had multiple sclerosis. The former motorbike

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race recorder is registered disabled, although she tries to

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remain positive, her illness is debilitating. Just simple things,

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it is difficult to do anything. As the day progresses, I need help.

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Doreen uses a wheelchair and mobility scooter now, but doesn't

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see why that shoe stop her going on holiday. -- should stop her going

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on holiday she and her husband have found cruising to be the perfect

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solution for them getting away from it all. When booking a cuedz, her

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number one priority is to make sure she gets a cabin for the disabled.

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My life depends on a disabled room. I couldn't survive without a

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disabled room. I have to make sure there is no steps anywhere. Getting

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over into a bath is a no-go, I wouldn't attempt it. Last year

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Doreen and Albert decided to join friends on a trip on one of the

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best known cruise operators, MSC. They hadn't tried the company

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before, but they were looking forward to their holiday. From the

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company's glossy website, anyone would think the same. When she

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tried to book through travel agent, they said a cabin for the disabled

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simply couldn't be guaranteed. She called up MSE cruises direct, she

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said she was very clear about her needs. They showed me a priority

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disabled cabin and it would be there, and asked me for the

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dimensions of the mobility scooter, they knew I needed to be able to

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get into a cabin on the scooter. the day the cruise was due to

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depart from Dover, a huge traffic jam delayed Doreen and Albert's

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journey from Bradford, they missed the scheduled departure and had to

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join the ship two days late in Germany. When they arrived and

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checked in, exhausted, they discovered they had not been

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allocated a room for the disabled. There was a bath with a shower over

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it. I couldn't climb into a bath. It upset me very much. Distraught

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the couple complained, but were told that there were no more rooms

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for the disabled available, and Doreen says the impact on the

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holiday was huge. I couldn't get into the bath, so my husband had to

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wash me, strip wash me every day. I can't function without having

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things that a disabled person needs. I would never book a holiday or a

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cruise or anything unless I could be satisfied that they had disabled

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access. With the bathroom virtually a no-go area for Doreen, she

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started to use her friend's room to shower. That wasn't ideal. I had to

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go down four decks, in a bath robe, because if you could get in our

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clothes it tires me out. I couldn't get into the cabin on my scooter,

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so hi to leave it in the corridor. -- so I had to leave it in the

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corridor. It was a nightmare. Several days and complaints later,

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Doreen was given the use of a shower in an available cabin. Again,

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she needed her husband to help her use it. Just hard work for him. You

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know. He has looked after me and is my carer, it just made it harder to

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cope. When the Drakes returned to Bradford and complained to MSC,

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they were told that as there were only a limited number of rooms

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available for the disabled, priority were given to passengers

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who couldn't walk at all. Doreen didn't fill that criteria because

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she told them, when booking, she could walk a few steps. They sent

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me a medical sheet, and I had filled it in, and it had asked if I

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could walk, and I had said yes, a few steps. I should have answered,

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no, obviously. Albert was outraged and was

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determined to get a refund, instead the company offered first 20%, then

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50% off a future cruise as a gesture of goodwill. Albert turned

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this down, when he sadly died suddenly in May, Doreen vow today

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continue his fight for compensation. I'm just appalled at their attitude,

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I wouldn't go if they gave me 100% again with them. I wouldn't have

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They said it was only when they received her medical form a month

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later, they realised she did. Based on the information on the form they

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felt the room they had given her They are adamant Doreen did not

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make that clear. Of course, Doreen insists she did. But her story

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shows how vital it is that when making any travel plans that all

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sides agree on exactly what has been booked.

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Last year on Rip-Off Britain, reinvestigated on-line shopping

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club that is offer discounts across a whole range of on-line and high

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street purchases. Everyone loves a bargain, there is nothing wrong

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with that, but it is the way some of the companies that get you to

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sign up that has put them on our radar, especially after one viewer

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wrote to us to say how he suddenly found himself locked into a credit

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agreement, and he no idea he had seen signed up to it.

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26-year-old recruitment consultant Darren, works hard, and plays hard.

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Amongst his many hobbies he likes to travel. In May 2010, he decided

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to take a break to Paris with his girlfriend, Kelly. I was

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researching the best deals for flights to go over there, I found

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one through Flybe, that was �280 return, I booked that. He was

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thrilled with the price, he felt they were a Great Barr again, a

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year later when looking at his bank account he noticed a payment he

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didn't recognise. I check my on- line accounts a bit more meticulous,

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I noticed �15 had been taken out of my K I did more research and

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realised it had been happening for some time. 12 months from the trip

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to Paris, a direct debit of �15 has been leaving Darren's account to a

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company called Rewards First. never heard of this company and no

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connection to them. I did research into the company, and nothing I

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would be interested in, I would never pay �15 a month to their

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service, to this day I don't know what they do. We can answer that.

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Rewards First offer discounts and vouchers for internet shopping, in

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turn for a monthly membership fee. Though he hadn't realised it, some

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how during his on-line booking, it seems that Darren had got himself

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all signed up. According to them I had agreed to membership, I never

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even heard of this company before, so it was actually rubbish.

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According to them I have entered my details and I greed to their

:24:45.:24:49.

membership details and signed their terms, on-line. Over the 12 months

:24:49.:24:54.

since his hole day, Darren had been charged around -- holiday, Darren

:24:54.:24:58.

had been charged �200 for a service he never agreed to or warranted.

:24:58.:25:03.

He's determined to get -- warranted, he's determined to get his money

:25:03.:25:07.

back. I called them, I couldn't get through to them, I sent an e-mail

:25:07.:25:12.

asking for a full refund. They said they were unable to do a refund

:25:12.:25:16.

because I had signed their terms and entered my details on the

:25:16.:25:21.

website. I didn't. I never talked to them, I tried to get on to them

:25:21.:25:24.

on the phone and various e-mails back and forth, no help whatsoever.

:25:24.:25:27.

I have asked to see proof that I have entered into their account,

:25:27.:25:33.

they keep prolonging it, I'm still awaiting an e-mail confirmation

:25:33.:25:37.

from them. Eventually Darren got in touch with the bank. I decided to

:25:37.:25:40.

get in touch with my bank, they explained they were unable to stop

:25:40.:25:44.

the money going through. Eventually they had to stop my entire bank

:25:44.:25:48.

account and reopen a new one. Darren's bank has agreed to refund

:25:48.:25:52.

the money. But Darren's experience, I'm afraid,

:25:52.:25:58.

is all too common. In 2008 nearly 130,000 people joined schemes like

:25:58.:26:03.

Rewards First, usually after clicking on a banner, promising �10

:26:03.:26:07.

cashback or money off future purchases. Not awful them would

:26:07.:26:10.

have known that they were signing up to a service they would be

:26:10.:26:15.

charged for, or that it was run by a company totally separate from the

:26:15.:26:20.

one whose site they were shopping on. But when we asked Rewards First

:26:20.:26:30.
:26:30.:26:55.

to comment: Flybe told us the same thing, any

:26:55.:26:58.

links to an offer on their confirmation pay, makes it very

:26:58.:27:02.

clear it comes from a third party and terms and conditions apply.

:27:02.:27:06.

Now as I found out for myself, buying on-line can be a really cost

:27:06.:27:10.

effective way to shop, but here comes the warning, before clicking

:27:10.:27:14.

the payment button, do always read the small print, and make sure that

:27:14.:27:17.

you aren't signing up to anything you don't want to. If you think a

:27:18.:27:21.

company has taken money out of your account, without your authorisation,

:27:22.:27:30.

or you don't recognise any of the transactions, David Cresswell from

:27:30.:27:35.

the financial ombudzman service has advice. The om mudman looks as

:27:35.:27:41.

cases from consumers who are unhappy about the unauthorised

:27:41.:27:45.

transaction on the debit or credit card statement. An unauthorised

:27:45.:27:48.

transaction is one consumers say they are not responsible for, they

:27:48.:27:57.

don't recognise and has nothing to do with them. Every month the

:27:57.:28:00.

ombudsman gets complaints related to standing orders and continuous

:28:00.:28:02.

payment orders. The difference between continuous payment

:28:02.:28:07.

authorities and direct debits is that you can't cancel a continuous

:28:07.:28:11.

payment authority with your bank. It was a separate agreement that

:28:11.:28:15.

you set up with the company, that you got the goods from.

:28:15.:28:19.

Whether it is an on-line service, or whether it is a magazine

:28:19.:28:24.

subscription. You do have to give permission if you are setting up a

:28:24.:28:27.

continuous payment authority, but a lot of people don't read the small

:28:27.:28:32.

print, so they don't know that this is actually what they have done. Be

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particularly careful if you are setting up a trial arrangement,

:28:35.:28:41.

perhaps there are a few copies of a magazine, because there may well be

:28:41.:28:44.

that you inadvertantly sign a continuous payment authority. If

:28:44.:28:47.

you have a problem with a continuous payment authority, and

:28:47.:28:51.

you can't sort it out directly with the company involved, or with your

:28:51.:28:54.

own credit card company or bank, get in touch with the ombudzman,

:28:54.:28:59.

and we will try to work out with you what it is that has gone wrong

:28:59.:29:06.

and whether we can help. companies don't always make things

:29:06.:29:16.

easy to understand, and it can be confusing to work out why you

:29:16.:29:20.

didn't get what you expected. To help you out we have put together a

:29:21.:29:29.

book to sort things out. You can find a link on the website.

:29:29.:29:34.

To receive a copy in the post send an A5 self-addressed envelope to

:29:34.:29:37.

the address we will give you at the end.

:29:37.:29:41.

Opening up a pop-up shop in Manchester has been great way of

:29:41.:29:45.

getting in touch with you direct, and hearing about problems face-to-

:29:45.:29:53.

face. I'm May from Chester. What has

:29:53.:29:57.

brought you to us today? Single supplement holidays.

:29:57.:30:01.

It is not just in the queue that we are hearing about your travel

:30:01.:30:06.

problems. People are expressing their concern in our gripe box too.

:30:06.:30:11.

I have had a bad experience with a holiday recently. My issue is

:30:12.:30:17.

single supplements in hotels and cruises. I just want to air my

:30:17.:30:20.

grievance about the price of holiday through school holiday time.

:30:20.:30:26.

In order to go to Portugal for two weeks in July it will cost us �,000.

:30:26.:30:29.

Many of you have been telling bus the problems you have had away on

:30:29.:30:34.

holiday you have been speaking our travel -- keeping our travel expert,

:30:34.:30:42.

Simon, very busy. The fact that you are with the

:30:42.:30:48.

famous simmon, you have to have a problem with travel? Yes, I was

:30:48.:30:53.

going on holiday and found out information going to Lake Garda,

:30:53.:31:03.
:31:03.:31:03.

the holiday started at �989,, now it is �789. You feel hard done

:31:03.:31:10.

by with the single supplement. I find it hard to understand the

:31:10.:31:13.

single supplements? One of the biggest rip-offs in Britain is the

:31:13.:31:17.

whole travel industry is designed for people in couples. Most hotels

:31:17.:31:23.

just have twin rooms. Cruiseships generally have cabin force two

:31:23.:31:27.

people. Result of that they will charge you for that empty bed. I

:31:27.:31:31.

have heard of 100% supplements because you are not tipping the

:31:31.:31:34.

crew, you are not going off and drinking because there is only one

:31:34.:31:38.

of you. It is a real, real unfortunate situation to be in. You

:31:38.:31:43.

can take action. Any time of year where the holiday company simply

:31:43.:31:48.

can't fill the spai, they will say no single supplement. It might be

:31:48.:31:52.

the back end of November but you will get good deals. Timing is the

:31:52.:31:56.

secret of anything in travel. If you can go in November, ideal month

:31:56.:32:01.

to go pretty much anywhere in the world. You know what you might go

:32:01.:32:07.

on a singles' holiday, find a lovely man, that is the enof the --

:32:07.:32:17.
:32:17.:32:22.

end of the problems. I might not come back! Write if you find a man!

:32:22.:32:26.

The world has become a smaller place, cheaper flights have opened

:32:26.:32:30.

up the skies and made travelling to far flung places as easy as driving

:32:30.:32:35.

to the other end of the country. But sometimes things go wrong,

:32:35.:32:39.

those aifrlly laid travel plans may have to be cancelled. If the, you

:32:39.:32:44.

could find yourself hit -- if they are, you could find yourself with

:32:44.:32:47.

charges you wouldn't expect. One of our viewers was furious when that

:32:47.:32:54.

happened to her. Anne and Bruno are living proof

:32:54.:32:58.

that blind dates can bring true love. Their meeting was set up by

:32:58.:33:03.

Anne's cousin, after Bruno came to England to learn the language.

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met Bruno in Huddersfield, we met on a blind date. He was going to

:33:07.:33:12.

stay just for 18 month, but he met me, and decided to stay here and

:33:12.:33:21.

live here. We have been married for 50 years next member. Bruno is a

:33:21.:33:25.

wonderful husband and we are really very happy. With most of Bruno's

:33:25.:33:30.

family still in Italy, the Huddersfield family have many happy

:33:30.:33:35.

trips there. We like the people, we like the food, most of all, we

:33:35.:33:42.

enjoy going out, and we enjoy staying with relatives. In June,

:33:42.:33:48.

2011, Anne booked for the couple to fly to Milan with Flybe, two weeks

:33:48.:33:53.

before they were due to travel, their plans were thrown into chaos

:33:53.:33:57.

when Bruno had sudden severe chest pains. It was quite a shock when I

:33:57.:34:01.

had to call for the ambulance. He was admitted to hospital, he stayed

:34:01.:34:06.

in there three days. We thought it was a heart attack, but it was a

:34:06.:34:13.

severe angina attack. Anne cancelled the flights, rang

:34:13.:34:18.

her travel insurance company, and then concentrated on her husband's

:34:18.:34:23.

recuperation. It was quite hard, really, he wasn't sleeping very

:34:23.:34:30.

well, and we were up an awful lot in the night. He was worried, I was

:34:30.:34:36.

worried. We were having to ring the doctor all the time. It was really

:34:37.:34:41.

stressful. Luckily the couples' insurers

:34:41.:34:44.

agreed to cover the cost of the flights and most of the charges,

:34:44.:34:48.

but said Anne would have to contact the airline to reclaim the taxes

:34:48.:34:54.

she had paid. So she did. When Flybe agreed to refund the money,

:34:54.:34:58.

Anne was delighted, or she was, until she found out exactly what

:34:58.:35:05.

she would get back. When Flybe wrote to her, they said although

:35:05.:35:10.

they would refund the taxes, it was my mus the administration fee.

:35:10.:35:20.
:35:20.:35:36.

Let's see how that break down. The I couldn't believe they were

:35:36.:35:40.

repaying �1.22, how could that be, unbelievable. I wrote them a letter

:35:40.:35:45.

and asked them if they would have a re-think. And I was enclosing a

:35:45.:35:51.

cheque for the �1.22, I would have liked to tell them where to stick

:35:51.:35:57.

this check cheque, but I'm too much of a lady to do that.

:35:57.:36:01.

In August, they wrote to Anne to say they would be prepared to pay

:36:01.:36:06.

out the full value of the taxes afterall, but not in cash, in

:36:06.:36:11.

vouchers. By Anne is refusing to accept. I didn't pay them in

:36:11.:36:15.

vouchers and I don't see why they should repay us in vouchers, we

:36:15.:36:21.

want the money back, because we paid them money for the tickets.

:36:21.:36:28.

We contacted Flybe who said their fares are non-refundable and during

:36:28.:36:30.

the booking processes it shows there are terms and conditions

:36:31.:36:33.

applied to airport charges and taxes, which need to be accepted

:36:33.:36:38.

before a booking is confirmed. As fou for the cost of their admin

:36:38.:36:41.

charge, they justified that by saying there are a number of

:36:41.:36:45.

internal and external costs, requiring a combination of manual

:36:45.:36:51.

and automated processes. But that doesn't fly with Anne. Now

:36:51.:36:55.

Bruno is on his way to recovery, she's looking forward to future

:36:55.:36:59.

trips to Italy with her family, but says next time she will be booking

:36:59.:37:03.

with a different airline. When you are planning a holiday it

:37:03.:37:06.

is not unreasonable to expect to know exactly how much your flight

:37:06.:37:11.

is going to cost, so that you can do price comparison, and budget

:37:11.:37:14.

accordingly. You would think. Unfortunately, as we have been

:37:14.:37:21.

hearing, all those pesky little surcharges, and the hidden extras

:37:21.:37:26.

can add up to a very expensive nasty surprise. Time to talk to the

:37:26.:37:29.

consumer affairs minister, and find out what, if anything, the

:37:29.:37:35.

Government can do about it. Minister, British consumers are not

:37:35.:37:38.

just fed up they are down right angry at the fact that when so

:37:38.:37:41.

often they book an airline ticket and other kinds of tickets, that

:37:42.:37:45.

there are hidden charges and surcharges, what is your reaction?

:37:45.:37:49.

I completely share their anger. Many times I have booked an air

:37:49.:37:53.

ticket on-line, you get to right to the end, you have been going

:37:53.:37:55.

through the website, you have filled in lots of boxes, ten

:37:55.:37:58.

minutes later you find you are being asked to pay a price which

:37:58.:38:02.

you didn't expect. I can understand people's anger, that's why we want

:38:02.:38:06.

to do something about it. How are you going to know whether they are

:38:06.:38:10.

excessive or not, has anyone in the Government or the OFT done the math,

:38:10.:38:13.

the companies will say they are not surcharges but they are covering

:38:13.:38:17.

our overheads, or they will say, quite legitimately, as a company we

:38:17.:38:21.

need it make a profit? You are right to say there is a question of

:38:21.:38:26.

fact here, how much is the business having to pay to the provider of

:38:27.:38:30.

the payment processing services to make that payment. That will be a

:38:30.:38:33.

question when we implement the legal changes. I can tell you what

:38:33.:38:37.

they are, we have done the math and worked it out? It will vary,

:38:38.:38:42.

depending on the type of payment on the credit card. On average if you

:38:42.:38:49.

use a credit card it is 1-2% of the price, if you use a debit card it

:38:49.:38:53.

is 10-20p charged by the operator to the company. If a company is

:38:53.:39:00.

charging �6 for us to use your debit card they are making profit.

:39:00.:39:05.

If we have a law to ban surcharges they will not be able to make the

:39:05.:39:08.

profit. They claim they are not surcharges, how do you close the

:39:08.:39:11.

loophole that says this is a surcharge, that is an acceptable

:39:11.:39:14.

form of profit making? These are complicated matters, you are right

:39:14.:39:19.

to raise that point with me. We want to make sure when we transpose

:39:19.:39:22.

this European legislation we get it right, so there aren't loopholes.

:39:22.:39:26.

For example, if we tried to do this just nationally there is a danger

:39:26.:39:31.

that some airlines, that aren't based in the UK, would escape. That

:39:31.:39:36.

is one of the benefits of having European legislation here. European

:39:36.:39:40.

legislation won't come in for ten years, in the meantime British

:39:40.:39:45.

consumers are having to deal with the loopholes? There are

:39:45.:39:48.

protections. It is not strong enough, they are getting away with

:39:48.:39:53.

it? Quite a few of them aren't. The Office of Fair Trading now have

:39:53.:39:56.

under the consumer protection regulations are getting greater

:39:56.:39:59.

transparency, they have voluntary agreements with a number of

:39:59.:40:03.

airlines so these surcharges are put up front, sometimes you see

:40:03.:40:06.

Governments legislating rather too quickly, getting it wrong and they

:40:06.:40:09.

haven't dealt with the problem. We will not make that mistake. What

:40:09.:40:13.

you are doing is everything you possibly can to make sure from here

:40:13.:40:17.

on in the British consumer has the protection, not just of the OFT,

:40:17.:40:20.

but the Government to protect those vulnerable in society? Absolutely.

:40:20.:40:24.

The vulnerable in society get a rough deal in a number of areas, we

:40:24.:40:27.

have to make sure they are protected.

:40:27.:40:32.

Thank you. Here at Rip-Off Britain, we are

:40:32.:40:37.

always ready to investigate more of your stories. Confused over your

:40:37.:40:40.

bills, trying to wade through endless small print, that leaves

:40:40.:40:44.

you none the wiser. I might have been stupid for not reading it, or

:40:45.:40:49.

I have read it and not took it in. I could kick meself, Rhyl could.

:40:49.:40:53.

Unsure what to do when you discover you have lost out. That called

:40:53.:40:58.

great deal has ended up costing you money. I thought this cannot be

:40:58.:41:04.

true, it is totally unacceptable, I was so angry.

:41:04.:41:08.

You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share your

:41:08.:41:11.

mistakes with us, so others won't do the same. Nobody knows about

:41:11.:41:15.

this, this is very, very strange to me, I really would like to get this

:41:15.:41:18.

much clearer. You can write to us on the above

:41:18.:41:28.
:41:28.:41:41.

The team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories.

:41:41.:41:45.

That's all for today. We have heard some brilliant advice from our

:41:45.:41:48.

experts on what to be aware of when you are booking your holidays and

:41:48.:41:50.

insurance. So the message is, obvious lie

:41:50.:41:56.

don't be put off going on holiday, but the main point to remember is

:41:56.:42:00.

to carefully read the small print of your policies, and once gist

:42:00.:42:04.

again, it is the old addage of, be aware of your rights, and shop

:42:04.:42:07.

around, you might find a better bargain.

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