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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off. | :00:21. | :00:28. | |
think it is very, very wrong for what they have done. The bank pass | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
charges, upon charges, upon charges. Legally it was right, morally, that | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
is where the question and doubt comes in my view. You contacted us | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
in your thousands, by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the street. And | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
the message could not be clearer. You don't always get a straight | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
answer, they try to to be you off. I'm not happy at all. There is | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
always the small print with the clause in thaw didn't realise. | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
are being ripped off big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
a simple mistake, or a catch in the small print, we will find out why | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
you are out of pocket, and what you can do about it. Keep asking the | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
questions, go to the top if you have to. We do get results, that is | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
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the interesting thing. Your stories, your money, this is Rippon. | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
- Rip-Off Britain, welcome. Our aim is to investigate your stories and | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
give you the advice you need. We take on the companies no matter | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
how big or small on your behalf, and get the answers you deserve. | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
Today we will tackle the many pitfalls you have been talking | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
about in your holidays. The major concern is what many of you think | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
are unjust surcharges and administration fees. | :01:48. | :01:53. | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, we tackle the issue of on-line | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
booking charges, why should you have to pay an extra cost just to | :01:56. | :02:03. | |
book a flight. We have made an extra �620 last year, for doing | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
absolutely nothing except booking a ticket with them and giving them | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
the custom. Our travel expert had some brilliant advice for the | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
people calling in to our pop-up shop. It is the airline which said, | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
when you turned up at the airport with the story, they said sorry we | :02:18. | :02:24. | |
won't take you. That strikes me as really, really hard hearted. | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
On to a subject, which judges from your e-mail, is one of the single | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
most infuriating things about buying a flight, that is the extra | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
charges that you will often need to pay, just for the privilege of | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
being able to use your own debit or credit card to purchase the ticket. | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
Surcharges like this have come under severe criticism from | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
consumer groups, and most recently from the Office of Fair Trading, | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
who have now started a formal investigation into whether or not | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
companies are actually hiding these extra costs from customers when | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
they are booking on-line. They are cost that is can very quickly add | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
up, especially if you are travelling in a group, and with | :03:02. | :03:11. | |
unairline in particular. Meet some of the members of the | :03:11. | :03:18. | |
Society of Mary in Ipswich. Rosemary, Bridgette, Celia and | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
David. They are an anglo-Catholic group, who travel as a pilgrimage | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
each year to the Festival of Our Lady of Grace in Italy. It is a big | :03:29. | :03:35. | |
prosession, which takes the statue of Our Lady down from the basilka | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
where it is normally kept, down to the town church there she remains | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
for a week. It is very important to us, the statue they originally take | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
to the prosession originally came from Ipswich, to the best of our | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
knowledge and belief. It has a strong link. Celia books all the | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
flights with Ryan air strikes the only airline that flies where and | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
when they want. She is always looking to keep costs down. People | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
can't afford to go on the trips, especially in the economic climate. | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
A lot of people who come are priests, they are not high earners. | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
Also the children with their families, they are not well off or | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
anything like that. We want to keep the costs right down so people can | :04:19. | :04:28. | |
feel that they can come. Ryanair, like many other airlines, | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
charge an administration fee when you book using a debit or credit | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
card. That is a cost added just for the privilege of paying by card. | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
Celia is not happy about it. We are getting nothing extra for it, it is | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
just making some extra money for them. I know they have to make a | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
profit, they are a business, but I think they are passing it on for a | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
service that isn't a service. Ryanair charge these fees per | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
person, per flight, they are currently �6 each way. For a family | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
of four going on a return trip, that is an extra �48. When Celia | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
last flew Ryanair the charge was �5 each way. Which for a group the | :05:14. | :05:20. | |
size of her's, really does add up. The actual booking fee for paying | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
for the tickets on-line would have cost us �10 a person, last year | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
that would have been all together, we had 62 people, including the | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
children, last year, that would have been �620. Remember, that's | :05:33. | :05:39. | |
not the cost of the flights, it is purely and simply the booking fee. | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
It affects the very people, like us, you know, who are trying to keep | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
the costs down. You have worked incredibly hard to get all the | :05:46. | :05:52. | |
other costs down. I did actually ask Ryanair if they did a group | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
rate, some airlines do, and they said, no. | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
But the size of the group should be irrelevant, because for every debit | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
card transaction, the airline is only charged about 20p by the bank, | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
however many people might be included in the booking. So if | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
customers have to pay �6 for each leg of a flight, that is quite a | :06:14. | :06:24. | |
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mark-up. Recently, Which? Magazine launched | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
a supercomplaint, claiming charges like this penalise customers, | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
especially if they are not made clear. The European Parliament | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
agrees, it has introduced legislation to make them illegal by | :06:36. | :06:44. | |
2013. MEP Brian Simpson is chair of the Transport Committee. The new | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
directive is to stop companies charging excessive amounts for use | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
of credit and debit cards, when they themselves are not being | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
charged those amounts. It is seen as a protection for the consumers | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
that they are not getting ripped off on credit and debit card | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
charges. I just think it is a money-making tool for airlines at | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
the expense of the passengers. Office of Fair Trading has also | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
called for such charges to end. But, until they do, on Ryanair there is | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
only one way to avoid the booking charge. The airline has recently | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
launched what it calls a cash passport card, which is a prepaid | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
MasterCard that you get free from the airline, and then load up with | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
cash before using it. Pay with that, and there is no booking fee. But | :07:33. | :07:41. | |
otherwise, there is. Not that Ryanair sees it that way. | :07:41. | :07:51. | |
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In typically robust manner they But after the amount of money they | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
paid out, our pilgrims wouldn't agree. For the one group they have | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
made an extra shall we say �620 last year for doing absolutely | :08:20. | :08:28. | |
nothing, except booking a ticket with them, giving them the custom. | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
We're at the Trafford Centre in Manchester, for the first time Rip- | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
Off Britain has opened its very first pop of up shop. | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
We have deemed up with BBC Learning to transform this shop into a one- | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
stop consumer advice shop, just for the weekend. That is because here | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
at Rip-Off Britain, we think it is really important for us to meet | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
people face-to-face, and hear your problems. And, this is the perfect | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
opportunity to do exactly that. We have a fantastic team of experts | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
here to help you with your problems. With a bit of luck we will put you | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
in touch with the right person to give you the right advice and send | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
you away feeling happier. It is amaze to go hear all the | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
different stories people have been telling us. Opening up our very own | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
pop-up shop here on Rippon is a great idea, it has given us the | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
opportunity to hear all those gripes and confusions and doubts | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
that are going on in your mind. I'm glad we are being kept busy, that | :09:26. | :09:33. | |
is what we are here to do. Clay popped in to see Simon after a | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
travel nightmare. He was taking his family on holiday from Manchester | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
to Corfu and on to Albania. But his suit cautious containing his on | :09:41. | :09:48. | |
ward travel tickets went missing between Manchester and Corfu. | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
asked them about catching the boat across Albania, and I have tickets | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
booked for travel across, so it is going to happen. The lady there | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
said, sorry, but I don't know when this case is going to be coming. So | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
I said what do I do then. She just told me she didn't know. I have to | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
stay in Corfu two more days, paying hotels and accommodation, plus I | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
paid extra money paying for the boat again to go across, I lost two | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
days in the hotel in Albania. I have been waiting for this holiday | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
for a year and they ruined it. were very badly advised in Corfu, | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
to say there is nothing we can do was completely reprehensible, I | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
have heard it said that we can't have cases flying around Europe if | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
there is no person on the plane. That is complete tosh, the bags go | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
missing the whole time, they are reunited, the vast majority by | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
putting them on other people's planes. | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
Are you saying he should pursue this to get an apology and some | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
money as well? There is no automatic right to compensation if | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
your bag goes astray but is then reunited with you. But in this case, | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
because you were not given proper information, you weren't given a | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
perfectly rational solution, you can quite legitimately go to them | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
and say your agent on the ground in Corfu messed up t cost me a great | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
deal of stress and money, please make a contribution towards that. | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
The only long-term thing, I think, to say, Julia, is if you have | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
really important stuff, never ever put it in case that you are | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
checking in. Because you simply don't know what is going to happen | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
to it. Anne Scott was also keen to meet | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
Simon, to see if he could help her with a claim she had rejected by | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
her insurance company, after her son lost his passport on a cruise | :11:46. | :11:52. | |
ship in Spain. He reported it to the cruise desk, and he was told | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
because I had a photocopy of his passport we would be OK in the | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
airport, and we took their word for it, we arrived at Barcelona airport, | :12:03. | :12:11. | |
he was turned back, he had to go to the consulate, we flew without him. | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
He they issued him with a temporary travel document that cost him over | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
100 euro, then new flights, taxi journalies back and forth, and the | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
train back home. I rang to claim and was told that on my policy, on | :12:24. | :12:30. | |
page 11, right down at the bottom, travel documents were not covered. | :12:30. | :12:40. | |
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Even had I seen it, I wouldn't have assumed that meant passports. | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
know my insurance doesn't cover travel developments either, I | :12:46. | :12:54. | |
bought a cheap one through a comparison website, and I only | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
wanted it for certain things. Did you go for a more upmarket one? | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
went through a price comparison website and took the cheapest. | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
cost you �500, an awful lot of money, and yet I assume it was the | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
airline which said, when you turned up at the airport, with this story, | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
with a photocopy, they said, sorry, we will not take you. That strikes | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
me as really, really hard hearted, it is just one of those things, | :13:20. | :13:27. | |
where, you feel what a swiz, I completely sympathise, it seems | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
really unjust, but I can't see any way of getting a bean back. | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
If you want to make sure your travel insurance policy covers you, | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
should the worst happen, Simon is here with more useful information. | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
It is not illegal to leave the country without travel insurance, | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
but it is pretty silly. For just a few pounds you can pick up a no- | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
frills policy that will cover you for all the basics. Most important | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
of which is medical treatment abroad, and if necessary, an air | :13:56. | :14:03. | |
balm ambulance to bring you home. - - air ambulance to bring you home. | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
You must notify insurers of any preexisting medical conditions. If | :14:07. | :14:14. | |
you don't, and that trouble flares up on hole day, they won't pay out. | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
Skiing in the alps, white water rafting through Africa. If you are | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
planning anything remotely risky, for goodness sake tell the travel | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
insurance company in advance, otherwise you won't be covered. A | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
travel insurance policy isn't a carte blanche to do whatever you | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
want, including having a couple of drinks and do something reckless. | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
Your travel insurance policy doesn't cover stuff you do when | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
you're drunk. You might think you have a | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
perfectly legitimate claim, but the insurer won't pay out. That could | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
be because you haven't got the right documentation, whether that's | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
a letter from the doctor, or a certificate from the police. If you | :14:55. | :15:02. | |
have been robbed. And any photoic evidence you can gather could come | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
to the grb photographic evidence you can gather could come to your | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
aid. If you are still not happy with your travel insurance company | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
not settling up, go further. There is one country that insists on | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
travel insurance, it is Cuba, and you won't even be let through | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
immigration unless you can produce a valid certificate. If you are | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
planning more than one holiday in a year, and I certainly will be, then | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
for goodness sake get an annual insurance policy, it works out at | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
far better value. Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
our experts have been rushed off their feet at our pop-up shop for | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
consumer advice. Any time of year with the holiday company simply | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
can't fill a space, they will say, OK, no single supplement, it might | :15:56. | :16:04. | |
be the backend of November, but you will get some good deals. | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
Travelling with any kind of mobility problems means extra care | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
for planning, in particular to make sure where you are going to stay | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
can accommodate you, and has all the right facilities. Doreen Drake | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
knows all about this better than most. Largely confined to a | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
mobility scooter, she totally adores going on cruises and has | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
always managed to book exactly the sort of room she needs, until her | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
most recent trip, when she wasn't given one, as far as the holiday | :16:33. | :16:41. | |
company was concerned, it seems, she just wasn't disabled enough. | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
Doreen Drake enjoyed life to the full until 11 years ago she | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
discovered she had multiple sclerosis. The former motorbike | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
race recorder is registered disabled, although she tries to | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
remain positive, her illness is debilitating. Just simple things, | :16:59. | :17:09. | |
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it is difficult to do anything. As the day progresses, I need help. | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
Doreen uses a wheelchair and mobility scooter now, but doesn't | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
see why that shoe stop her going on holiday. -- should stop her going | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
on holiday she and her husband have found cruising to be the perfect | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
solution for them getting away from it all. When booking a cuedz, her | :17:26. | :17:33. | |
number one priority is to make sure she gets a cabin for the disabled. | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
My life depends on a disabled room. I couldn't survive without a | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
disabled room. I have to make sure there is no steps anywhere. Getting | :17:40. | :17:46. | |
over into a bath is a no-go, I wouldn't attempt it. Last year | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
Doreen and Albert decided to join friends on a trip on one of the | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
best known cruise operators, MSC. They hadn't tried the company | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
before, but they were looking forward to their holiday. From the | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
company's glossy website, anyone would think the same. When she | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
tried to book through travel agent, they said a cabin for the disabled | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
simply couldn't be guaranteed. She called up MSE cruises direct, she | :18:10. | :18:20. | |
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said she was very clear about her needs. They showed me a priority | :18:21. | :18:30. | |
disabled cabin and it would be there, and asked me for the | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
dimensions of the mobility scooter, they knew I needed to be able to | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
get into a cabin on the scooter. the day the cruise was due to | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
depart from Dover, a huge traffic jam delayed Doreen and Albert's | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
journey from Bradford, they missed the scheduled departure and had to | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
join the ship two days late in Germany. When they arrived and | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
checked in, exhausted, they discovered they had not been | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
allocated a room for the disabled. There was a bath with a shower over | :19:02. | :19:10. | |
it. I couldn't climb into a bath. It upset me very much. Distraught | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
the couple complained, but were told that there were no more rooms | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
for the disabled available, and Doreen says the impact on the | :19:19. | :19:25. | |
holiday was huge. I couldn't get into the bath, so my husband had to | :19:25. | :19:33. | |
wash me, strip wash me every day. I can't function without having | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
things that a disabled person needs. I would never book a holiday or a | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
cruise or anything unless I could be satisfied that they had disabled | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
access. With the bathroom virtually a no-go area for Doreen, she | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
started to use her friend's room to shower. That wasn't ideal. I had to | :19:54. | :20:03. | |
go down four decks, in a bath robe, because if you could get in our | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
clothes it tires me out. I couldn't get into the cabin on my scooter, | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
so hi to leave it in the corridor. -- so I had to leave it in the | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
corridor. It was a nightmare. Several days and complaints later, | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
Doreen was given the use of a shower in an available cabin. Again, | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
she needed her husband to help her use it. Just hard work for him. You | :20:26. | :20:36. | |
know. He has looked after me and is my carer, it just made it harder to | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
cope. When the Drakes returned to Bradford and complained to MSC, | :20:41. | :20:48. | |
they were told that as there were only a limited number of rooms | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
available for the disabled, priority were given to passengers | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
who couldn't walk at all. Doreen didn't fill that criteria because | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
she told them, when booking, she could walk a few steps. They sent | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
me a medical sheet, and I had filled it in, and it had asked if I | :21:06. | :21:14. | |
could walk, and I had said yes, a few steps. I should have answered, | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
no, obviously. Albert was outraged and was | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
determined to get a refund, instead the company offered first 20%, then | :21:25. | :21:31. | |
50% off a future cruise as a gesture of goodwill. Albert turned | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
this down, when he sadly died suddenly in May, Doreen vow today | :21:35. | :21:41. | |
continue his fight for compensation. I'm just appalled at their attitude, | :21:42. | :21:51. | |
I wouldn't go if they gave me 100% again with them. I wouldn't have | :21:51. | :22:01. | |
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They said it was only when they received her medical form a month | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
later, they realised she did. Based on the information on the form they | :22:08. | :22:18. | |
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felt the room they had given her They are adamant Doreen did not | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
make that clear. Of course, Doreen insists she did. But her story | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
shows how vital it is that when making any travel plans that all | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
sides agree on exactly what has been booked. | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
Last year on Rip-Off Britain, reinvestigated on-line shopping | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
club that is offer discounts across a whole range of on-line and high | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
street purchases. Everyone loves a bargain, there is nothing wrong | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
with that, but it is the way some of the companies that get you to | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
sign up that has put them on our radar, especially after one viewer | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
wrote to us to say how he suddenly found himself locked into a credit | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
agreement, and he no idea he had seen signed up to it. | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
26-year-old recruitment consultant Darren, works hard, and plays hard. | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
Amongst his many hobbies he likes to travel. In May 2010, he decided | :23:13. | :23:20. | |
to take a break to Paris with his girlfriend, Kelly. I was | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
researching the best deals for flights to go over there, I found | :23:24. | :23:33. | |
one through Flybe, that was �280 return, I booked that. He was | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
thrilled with the price, he felt they were a Great Barr again, a | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
year later when looking at his bank account he noticed a payment he | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
didn't recognise. I check my on- line accounts a bit more meticulous, | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
I noticed �15 had been taken out of my K I did more research and | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
realised it had been happening for some time. 12 months from the trip | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
to Paris, a direct debit of �15 has been leaving Darren's account to a | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
company called Rewards First. never heard of this company and no | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
connection to them. I did research into the company, and nothing I | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
would be interested in, I would never pay �15 a month to their | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
service, to this day I don't know what they do. We can answer that. | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
Rewards First offer discounts and vouchers for internet shopping, in | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
turn for a monthly membership fee. Though he hadn't realised it, some | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
how during his on-line booking, it seems that Darren had got himself | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
all signed up. According to them I had agreed to membership, I never | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
even heard of this company before, so it was actually rubbish. | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
According to them I have entered my details and I greed to their | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
membership details and signed their terms, on-line. Over the 12 months | :24:49. | :24:54. | |
since his hole day, Darren had been charged around -- holiday, Darren | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
had been charged �200 for a service he never agreed to or warranted. | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
He's determined to get -- warranted, he's determined to get his money | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
back. I called them, I couldn't get through to them, I sent an e-mail | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
asking for a full refund. They said they were unable to do a refund | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
because I had signed their terms and entered my details on the | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
website. I didn't. I never talked to them, I tried to get on to them | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
on the phone and various e-mails back and forth, no help whatsoever. | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
I have asked to see proof that I have entered into their account, | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
they keep prolonging it, I'm still awaiting an e-mail confirmation | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
from them. Eventually Darren got in touch with the bank. I decided to | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
get in touch with my bank, they explained they were unable to stop | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
the money going through. Eventually they had to stop my entire bank | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
account and reopen a new one. Darren's bank has agreed to refund | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
the money. But Darren's experience, I'm afraid, | :25:52. | :25:58. | |
is all too common. In 2008 nearly 130,000 people joined schemes like | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
Rewards First, usually after clicking on a banner, promising �10 | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
cashback or money off future purchases. Not awful them would | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
have known that they were signing up to a service they would be | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
charged for, or that it was run by a company totally separate from the | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
one whose site they were shopping on. But when we asked Rewards First | :26:20. | :26:30. | |
:26:30. | :26:55. | ||
to comment: Flybe told us the same thing, any | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
links to an offer on their confirmation pay, makes it very | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
clear it comes from a third party and terms and conditions apply. | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
Now as I found out for myself, buying on-line can be a really cost | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
effective way to shop, but here comes the warning, before clicking | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
the payment button, do always read the small print, and make sure that | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
you aren't signing up to anything you don't want to. If you think a | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
company has taken money out of your account, without your authorisation, | :27:22. | :27:30. | |
or you don't recognise any of the transactions, David Cresswell from | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
the financial ombudzman service has advice. The om mudman looks as | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
cases from consumers who are unhappy about the unauthorised | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
transaction on the debit or credit card statement. An unauthorised | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
transaction is one consumers say they are not responsible for, they | :27:48. | :27:57. | |
don't recognise and has nothing to do with them. Every month the | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
ombudsman gets complaints related to standing orders and continuous | :28:00. | :28:02. | |
payment orders. The difference between continuous payment | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
authorities and direct debits is that you can't cancel a continuous | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
payment authority with your bank. It was a separate agreement that | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
you set up with the company, that you got the goods from. | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
Whether it is an on-line service, or whether it is a magazine | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
subscription. You do have to give permission if you are setting up a | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
continuous payment authority, but a lot of people don't read the small | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
print, so they don't know that this is actually what they have done. Be | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
particularly careful if you are setting up a trial arrangement, | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
perhaps there are a few copies of a magazine, because there may well be | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
that you inadvertantly sign a continuous payment authority. If | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
you have a problem with a continuous payment authority, and | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
you can't sort it out directly with the company involved, or with your | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
own credit card company or bank, get in touch with the ombudzman, | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
and we will try to work out with you what it is that has gone wrong | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
and whether we can help. companies don't always make things | :29:06. | :29:16. | |
easy to understand, and it can be confusing to work out why you | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
didn't get what you expected. To help you out we have put together a | :29:21. | :29:29. | |
book to sort things out. You can find a link on the website. | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
To receive a copy in the post send an A5 self-addressed envelope to | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
the address we will give you at the end. | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
Opening up a pop-up shop in Manchester has been great way of | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
getting in touch with you direct, and hearing about problems face-to- | :29:45. | :29:53. | |
face. I'm May from Chester. What has | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
brought you to us today? Single supplement holidays. | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
It is not just in the queue that we are hearing about your travel | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
problems. People are expressing their concern in our gripe box too. | :30:06. | :30:11. | |
I have had a bad experience with a holiday recently. My issue is | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
single supplements in hotels and cruises. I just want to air my | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
grievance about the price of holiday through school holiday time. | :30:20. | :30:26. | |
In order to go to Portugal for two weeks in July it will cost us �,000. | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
Many of you have been telling bus the problems you have had away on | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
holiday you have been speaking our travel -- keeping our travel expert, | :30:34. | :30:42. | |
Simon, very busy. The fact that you are with the | :30:42. | :30:48. | |
famous simmon, you have to have a problem with travel? Yes, I was | :30:48. | :30:53. | |
going on holiday and found out information going to Lake Garda, | :30:53. | :31:03. | |
:31:03. | :31:03. | ||
the holiday started at �989,, now it is �789. You feel hard done | :31:03. | :31:10. | |
by with the single supplement. I find it hard to understand the | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
single supplements? One of the biggest rip-offs in Britain is the | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
whole travel industry is designed for people in couples. Most hotels | :31:17. | :31:23. | |
just have twin rooms. Cruiseships generally have cabin force two | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
people. Result of that they will charge you for that empty bed. I | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
have heard of 100% supplements because you are not tipping the | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
crew, you are not going off and drinking because there is only one | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
of you. It is a real, real unfortunate situation to be in. You | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
can take action. Any time of year where the holiday company simply | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
can't fill the spai, they will say no single supplement. It might be | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
the back end of November but you will get good deals. Timing is the | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
secret of anything in travel. If you can go in November, ideal month | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
to go pretty much anywhere in the world. You know what you might go | :32:01. | :32:07. | |
on a singles' holiday, find a lovely man, that is the enof the -- | :32:07. | :32:17. | |
:32:17. | :32:22. | ||
end of the problems. I might not come back! Write if you find a man! | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
The world has become a smaller place, cheaper flights have opened | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
up the skies and made travelling to far flung places as easy as driving | :32:30. | :32:35. | |
to the other end of the country. But sometimes things go wrong, | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
those aifrlly laid travel plans may have to be cancelled. If the, you | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
could find yourself hit -- if they are, you could find yourself with | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
charges you wouldn't expect. One of our viewers was furious when that | :32:47. | :32:54. | |
happened to her. Anne and Bruno are living proof | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
that blind dates can bring true love. Their meeting was set up by | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
Anne's cousin, after Bruno came to England to learn the language. | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
met Bruno in Huddersfield, we met on a blind date. He was going to | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
stay just for 18 month, but he met me, and decided to stay here and | :33:12. | :33:21. | |
live here. We have been married for 50 years next member. Bruno is a | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
wonderful husband and we are really very happy. With most of Bruno's | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
family still in Italy, the Huddersfield family have many happy | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
trips there. We like the people, we like the food, most of all, we | :33:35. | :33:42. | |
enjoy going out, and we enjoy staying with relatives. In June, | :33:42. | :33:48. | |
2011, Anne booked for the couple to fly to Milan with Flybe, two weeks | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
before they were due to travel, their plans were thrown into chaos | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
when Bruno had sudden severe chest pains. It was quite a shock when I | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
had to call for the ambulance. He was admitted to hospital, he stayed | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
in there three days. We thought it was a heart attack, but it was a | :34:06. | :34:13. | |
severe angina attack. Anne cancelled the flights, rang | :34:13. | :34:18. | |
her travel insurance company, and then concentrated on her husband's | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
recuperation. It was quite hard, really, he wasn't sleeping very | :34:23. | :34:30. | |
well, and we were up an awful lot in the night. He was worried, I was | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
worried. We were having to ring the doctor all the time. It was really | :34:37. | :34:41. | |
stressful. Luckily the couples' insurers | :34:41. | :34:44. | |
agreed to cover the cost of the flights and most of the charges, | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
but said Anne would have to contact the airline to reclaim the taxes | :34:48. | :34:54. | |
she had paid. So she did. When Flybe agreed to refund the money, | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
Anne was delighted, or she was, until she found out exactly what | :34:58. | :35:05. | |
she would get back. When Flybe wrote to her, they said although | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
they would refund the taxes, it was my mus the administration fee. | :35:10. | :35:20. | |
:35:20. | :35:36. | ||
Let's see how that break down. The I couldn't believe they were | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
repaying �1.22, how could that be, unbelievable. I wrote them a letter | :35:40. | :35:45. | |
and asked them if they would have a re-think. And I was enclosing a | :35:45. | :35:51. | |
cheque for the �1.22, I would have liked to tell them where to stick | :35:51. | :35:57. | |
this check cheque, but I'm too much of a lady to do that. | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
In August, they wrote to Anne to say they would be prepared to pay | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
out the full value of the taxes afterall, but not in cash, in | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
vouchers. By Anne is refusing to accept. I didn't pay them in | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
vouchers and I don't see why they should repay us in vouchers, we | :36:15. | :36:21. | |
want the money back, because we paid them money for the tickets. | :36:21. | :36:28. | |
We contacted Flybe who said their fares are non-refundable and during | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
the booking processes it shows there are terms and conditions | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
applied to airport charges and taxes, which need to be accepted | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
before a booking is confirmed. As fou for the cost of their admin | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
charge, they justified that by saying there are a number of | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
internal and external costs, requiring a combination of manual | :36:45. | :36:51. | |
and automated processes. But that doesn't fly with Anne. Now | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
Bruno is on his way to recovery, she's looking forward to future | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
trips to Italy with her family, but says next time she will be booking | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
with a different airline. When you are planning a holiday it | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
is not unreasonable to expect to know exactly how much your flight | :37:06. | :37:11. | |
is going to cost, so that you can do price comparison, and budget | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
accordingly. You would think. Unfortunately, as we have been | :37:14. | :37:21. | |
hearing, all those pesky little surcharges, and the hidden extras | :37:21. | :37:26. | |
can add up to a very expensive nasty surprise. Time to talk to the | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
consumer affairs minister, and find out what, if anything, the | :37:29. | :37:35. | |
Government can do about it. Minister, British consumers are not | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
just fed up they are down right angry at the fact that when so | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
often they book an airline ticket and other kinds of tickets, that | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
there are hidden charges and surcharges, what is your reaction? | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
I completely share their anger. Many times I have booked an air | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
ticket on-line, you get to right to the end, you have been going | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
through the website, you have filled in lots of boxes, ten | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
minutes later you find you are being asked to pay a price which | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
you didn't expect. I can understand people's anger, that's why we want | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
to do something about it. How are you going to know whether they are | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
excessive or not, has anyone in the Government or the OFT done the math, | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
the companies will say they are not surcharges but they are covering | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
our overheads, or they will say, quite legitimately, as a company we | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
need it make a profit? You are right to say there is a question of | :38:21. | :38:26. | |
fact here, how much is the business having to pay to the provider of | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
the payment processing services to make that payment. That will be a | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
question when we implement the legal changes. I can tell you what | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
they are, we have done the math and worked it out? It will vary, | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
depending on the type of payment on the credit card. On average if you | :38:42. | :38:49. | |
use a credit card it is 1-2% of the price, if you use a debit card it | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
is 10-20p charged by the operator to the company. If a company is | :38:53. | :39:00. | |
charging �6 for us to use your debit card they are making profit. | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
If we have a law to ban surcharges they will not be able to make the | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
profit. They claim they are not surcharges, how do you close the | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
loophole that says this is a surcharge, that is an acceptable | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
form of profit making? These are complicated matters, you are right | :39:14. | :39:19. | |
to raise that point with me. We want to make sure when we transpose | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
this European legislation we get it right, so there aren't loopholes. | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
For example, if we tried to do this just nationally there is a danger | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
that some airlines, that aren't based in the UK, would escape. That | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
is one of the benefits of having European legislation here. European | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
legislation won't come in for ten years, in the meantime British | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
consumers are having to deal with the loopholes? There are | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
protections. It is not strong enough, they are getting away with | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
it? Quite a few of them aren't. The Office of Fair Trading now have | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
under the consumer protection regulations are getting greater | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
transparency, they have voluntary agreements with a number of | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
airlines so these surcharges are put up front, sometimes you see | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
Governments legislating rather too quickly, getting it wrong and they | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
haven't dealt with the problem. We will not make that mistake. What | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
you are doing is everything you possibly can to make sure from here | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
on in the British consumer has the protection, not just of the OFT, | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
but the Government to protect those vulnerable in society? Absolutely. | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
The vulnerable in society get a rough deal in a number of areas, we | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
have to make sure they are protected. | :40:27. | :40:32. | |
Thank you. Here at Rip-Off Britain, we are | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
always ready to investigate more of your stories. Confused over your | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
bills, trying to wade through endless small print, that leaves | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
you none the wiser. I might have been stupid for not reading it, or | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
I have read it and not took it in. I could kick meself, Rhyl could. | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you have lost out. That called | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
great deal has ended up costing you money. I thought this cannot be | :40:58. | :41:04. | |
true, it is totally unacceptable, I was so angry. | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share your | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
mistakes with us, so others won't do the same. Nobody knows about | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
this, this is very, very strange to me, I really would like to get this | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
much clearer. You can write to us on the above | :41:18. | :41:28. | |
:41:28. | :41:41. | ||
The team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
That's all for today. We have heard some brilliant advice from our | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
experts on what to be aware of when you are booking your holidays and | :41:48. | :41:50. | |
insurance. So the message is, obvious lie | :41:50. | :41:56. | |
don't be put off going on holiday, but the main point to remember is | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
to carefully read the small print of your policies, and once gist | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
again, it is the old addage of, be aware of your rights, and shop | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
around, you might find a better bargain. | :42:07. | :42:11. |