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left you feeling ripped off. think it is very wrong, what they

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have done. The bank piles on charges and charges. Legally it was

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right, but morally, that is where the Dow it is. You contacted us in

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your thousands, by post and e-mail, stopping us in the street. I do not

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always get a straight answer, they just fob you off. We are being

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ripped off, big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, as simple

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mistake or a catch in the small print, we will find out why you are

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out of pocket and what you can do about it. Keep asking the questions,

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go to the top if you have to. stories, your money, this is Rip

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Off Britain. Welcome to Rip Off Britain where once again we have

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been investigating your stories, hearing who has left you feeling

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ripped off for how you have fallen foul of sharp practices.

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The financial pressures that households have experienced during

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the downturn caused 1.2 million of you to abandon saving into your

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pensions. Some of you have looked elsewhere to secure your future but

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with devastating effects. Today we will hear how some of you

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have ended up losing tens of thousands of pounds thanks to

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opportunities that turned out to be different to the ones you thought

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you had signed up to. In one case, the company responsible appears to

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have vanished completely. Later today we will be

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investigating how this man stands to lose �9,000 after an investment

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did not go to plan. I have spent a lot of money and I have ended up

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with absolutely nothing. And how a promise of profits from owning land

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has had devastating consequences. We found out that they had not

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applied for planning permission and they had effectively made off with

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a lot of money. We set up our very own Pol Pot Shop where you came men

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and told us your consumer concerns. Some of the stories we will hear

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today are to do with putting your money into some sort of property or

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land, whether it is at home or abroad. An increasingly popular

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choice in this country is what is called a part home. These are

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bungalows style mobile homes usually sit on private estates

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where the lure of a picturesque location has convinced thousands to

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sell up and take the plunge. But they are not regulated in the same

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way as traditional homes and some owners have found themselves drawn

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into lengthy battles with the part's management.

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The John Gilmore has lived here since 1978. With the beautiful

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countryside on his doorstep and the strong sense of community spirit in

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the area, he expected this to be his final move. He opted to buy

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what is commonly called a part home. He purchased the property but not

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the land it sits on. I thought, this is a nice place, I can see my

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gaze out here. When we moved here, everyone had their own fence and

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that was it. This is the hanging baskets and the flowers and the

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decking that I had. Four years after moving in, lie for John

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changed. The brand new owners took over the site. It was not long

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before they started to make changes. My place was parallel to the road.

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He wanted to widen the road. Not only that, he wanted me to 90

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degrees so I was in line with all the others, which they did. In the

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process, John's porch and decking were demolished and rebuilding them

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would cost �9,000, so he asked the company to foot the bill, but they

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refused. John was astounded. It has been spoilt by the way we have been

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treated. We asked the owners to comment on the way John was treated,

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and the owners said that when he purchased a site it was run down

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and in breach of its licence. He said he explained to the residents

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what needed to be done to rectify breaches, including moving some

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homes. He said he would not be responsible for moving unauthorised

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extensions, and said that John was fully aware this included his porch

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and the deck. But John fought back into Kay's case to court. John was

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told to take down a shed that did not have proper permission, but the

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company was ordered to pay for John's damage property and a legal

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costs as well. John has still not received all of his money. The site

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corners appeal be caught's decision and successfully. They still have

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to pay the outstanding fees. I will not do any remedial work at my own

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expense. As the number of people buying into this lifestyle

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increases, so do the problems. This woman is on the road gathering

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information from people like John. It is typical of what is happening,

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pretty widespread. Does the part have a residents' association?

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This woman has sent her findings to MPs in the hope that they will do

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more to protect residents' right. This is a move that one trading

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standards officer would welcome. Owners can increase their rounds

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year-on-year if the part was kept up to the standard that it was when

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people into their contracts, they are entitled to increase the fee

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each year by the rate of RPI, but the problems come when parks are

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neglected and the facilities and then delighted use. Residential

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property tribunals came into force two naked easier and cheaper to

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settle disputes, but even now, the onus remains on residents to

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instigate any legal action. I would not advise anybody in the current

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climate to buy a part home because even if you are certain that the

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part home site operator is absolutely splendid, how do you

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know whether he or she is going to have to sell up? How do you know

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who will buy the site? Meanwhile, the owner of John's site says that

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with the help of residents they hoped to bring this place in line

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with the standard of the rest of their parts. But until that happens,

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John feels that his dream retirement home has become anything

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but. I cannot sell the place in its present condition. This is not a

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place we are proud to living. I used to be able to invite people in,

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but you're ashamed of the place now. If you're one of the 444,000 people

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in the UK who owned a holiday timeshare, you have got to be

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familiar with how they work. You may also be familiar with how

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tricky they can be to sell on, to end the arrangement if you no

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longer wanted, so when our programme heard from 50 complaints

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-- 50 customers of the same company all felt trapped in their contrite,

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we wanted to see if we could do anything about it, but what

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happened next surprised even us. Diamond Resorts International are

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one of the major players in the timeshare market. But Diamond

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Resorts International is not everybody's best friend. At Rip Off

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Britain we were contacted by fitted -- 50 British customers of Diamond

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Resorts International and they are all saying the same thing, that

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their experience falls short of the glossy standards of the adverts. We

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cannot identify any of the people we spoke to, and you will see why

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in a moment, but with the help of one of our research team, we can

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show you this. We have had lots of it -- lots of e-mails about the

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company so we decided to look into them. Most of the people we spoke

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to were initially pleased with their holiday investment, but for

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some, this Diamond lost its sparkle. Like most timeshare schemes these

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days, rather than buying into one property, customers of Diamond

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Resorts International had access to a range of exclusive resorts.

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People were spending money on points, anywhere from a couple of

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1,000 pounds, to hundreds of thousands of pounds. With points

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came the prices of luxury holidays around the world, but there is more

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money to shell out. Diamond Resorts International customers pay annual

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maintenance fees for the upkeep of the resort and the amount they are

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charged is determined by the amount of points they have. That is where

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the trouble starts. When they signed up they agreed that their

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management fees would increase with the retail price index, but we have

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been hearing about increases significantly larger than that. Our

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and maintenance started off at only �100, it is now more than 1,000.

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Her management fees were 1004 funded and 50, now they are 2,800.

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With annual fees now costing more than an entire holiday from a

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travel agent, the members we heard from decided enough was enough.

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They wanted out if their contracts even though it meant writing off

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the thousands be spent on points, but Diamond Resorts International

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were having none of it. When the colt to cancel the contract they

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were directed to the small print and they realised that they were

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trapped. The terms and conditions allied only four circumstances

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under which customers can cancel, first, the least attractive, death.

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The second, bankruptcy. You can also cancel if you're over 75, but

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only if you have no transferable family members. Or if you have

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medical problems which stop you from travelling. Is such a

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restrictive contract fair. We need a lawyer. Through the contract

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there are some interesting points. You can resign from being a member

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but even if you do that, your liability to pay for things last be

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on that date. There is a right for the company to sell the points to

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other people if they wish, but they do not have to do that. It is

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important that you look at what you are signing up to. I'm happy at the

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contract, some of the customers stop paying the escalating fees. We

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have filmed interviews with a whole range of those unhappy customers so

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you may wonder why you're not seeing them on the screen. It is

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because after we contacted the company to get their comments there

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was something of an unexpected development. We gave Diamond

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Resorts International a list of unhappy customers and suddenly they

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all received at a letter from the company. It said that they would be

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freed from their contract under one condition, they could not speak to

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the media about it. So we're not using the entry views we film,

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because it seems as if the people speak to us again, they could be in

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big trouble. I have seen that with lots of confidentiality clauses

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over the years. This one is unusual because it requires them to pay

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�10,000 if they breach the confidentiality. They are saying

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they will go to court and claimed �10,000 if they breached the

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contract. It seems to be a deterrent in terms of stopping

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people speaking to the media. Customers may not be allowed to

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speak, up bat at Rip Off Britain we do not like to keep good news to

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ourselves. These members will be delighted to be free of their

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contract even though it does mean writing of the cash they have spent

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on points. Diamond Resorts International told us they have

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thousands of satisfied members and their maintenance bills come with a

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their maintenance bills come with a full explanation of any significant

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change, which were often due to factors outside their control, for

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example, a sharp drop in the exchange rate in Europe. They

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stressed that membership is a long- term commitment and if members stop

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paying it impacts on everyone else. But the stress that they allow

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members to cancel under certain circumstances and they have decided

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that it is in the interests of the individuals we heard from to except

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the cancellation of their the cancellation of their

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membership. For these customers at least, Diamond Resorts

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International's rigid no escape policy is no more. It goes to show

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that persistence pays off and we're very happy if we have helped along

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the way. Henry is an independent property

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expert. He has some advice on how to invest in property safely.

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Although the market is much tougher as a result of the recent financial

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crisis, there are opportunities out there for the clever financial

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investor. One of the problem with Property Investment Clubs is they

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provide a one stop shop for property, where they provide a

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source of properties to buy, the finance to date and a management

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service for when you have purchased it. These three all in house should

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ring alarm bells in many potential investors' mind. The current

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financial climate makes it much harder to find the funds and borrow

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the money in the first place to buy a property to lack, but it also

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throws up massive opportunities with distressed bales and people in

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difficult circumstances. -- a Big companies don't always make

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things easy to understand. It can be confusing trying to work out why

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you haven't ended up with what you expected. If you feel bogged down,

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we have put together a booklet of advice. You can find a link to the

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free guide on our website. Or, to receive a copy in the post, send an

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envelope to the address we will give you at the end of the

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programme. The Here's another investment that

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can go horribly wrong and has already caught out thousands of

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people. Between them they have lost an estimated total of �200 million.

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After buying plots of land that turned out to be worthless. This

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has prompted the Land Registry to warn the public of the risks of

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buying land as part of a Land Banking scheme. Were you are sold a

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plot of land which is claimed to have a good investment value

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because it is ripe for development. All too often it turns out there is

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a fat chance of that tournament ever happening which you will only

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discover when you have handed over the cash.

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Adrian Jones from wigan macro ran a successful chemical company for 24

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years. When he retired he was hoping to enjoy the rewards of that.

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My plan for the future was really to enjoy my retirement. And,

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hopefully, to leave our children some inheritance. Age and have some

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money to invest so when he got a brochure from a company promising

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big returns, he was interested. tight and see your returns

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maximised. It looked simple enough, Land Banking UK would make all the

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arrangements for you to buy a plot of land. They would negotiate

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planning permission for housing, and your land increases in value

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without you having to do anything. The sales pitch was, once planning

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permission had been gained, they would sell the land to a developer.

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They expected a tenfold increase in the value of our investment.

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Decided he could expect big money in the future, Adrian bought three

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plots, investing �35,000. Once planning permission had been gained,

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they would be sold to a developer, and we would receive about 60% of

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any but left in value of the land, the other amount would go to the

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company which was the incentive to make it work. Their promise was to

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try, try again, until they obtained planning permission. So hopefully,

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within a short number of years, the investment would come to fruition.

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Land Banking UK is one of many companies selling land this way,

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promising rich rewards further down the line when the site is developed.

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But the Insolvency Service to investigate companies operating

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against the public interest has seen too often people fall foul of

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them. They are called called by persistent sales people who say

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they have plots of land for sale without planning permission -- cold

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called. People are duped into paying inflated prices. That is

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what happened to a gin. We had bought a worthless piece of land.

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The company never applied for planning permission. In 2007 we

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found the company had gone into interim administration. In April

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2008, we found out from the liquidator that the company had in

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fact been wound up. Far from making a profit, age and had nothing to

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show for his �35,000. One might think a tenfold increase was too

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good to be true. It was. As a result, I suppose you could say I

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was a little gullible, more than a little gullible. The thing people

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should be asking themselves is why should somebody call you out of the

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blue with a fantastic scheme to sell a piece of agricultural land,

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because if the scheme was that fantastic, why are they offering it

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to you? Chris from Worcester also took up one of these fantastic

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looking schemes from land bank UK - - Land Banking UK. We purchased two

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plots of land and we were told the return would be up to seven times

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out investment, we were looking at �140,000 return on our investment.

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Chris was horrified to discover Land Banking UK had gone into

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administration. So there would be no planning permission and no

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return on his investment. We were very distressed we have invested

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our money and we had been cheated by Land Banking UK. We have found

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that they hadn't actually applied for planning permission, they had

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effectively made off with our money. The Financial Services Authority

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calls Land Banking UK -- this kind of scheme paid �200 billion the

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year problem. I feel there are not enough

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safeguards to protect the consumer from people who are out to actually

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extorts money from you. A �35,000 investment is never an easy matter

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to write-off. And, that is why we continue to try to fight, and get

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some satisfaction for investors, and that is why we will continue to

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fight until it is resolved. We won't give up on this.

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It is cases like this that have prompted the Land Registry to

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reissue its guide on these schemes, with detailed advice on anyone --

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for anyone interested in these kinds of schemes. You can find a

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link to this on our website. Not all of these schemes are rip-offs

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but we only hear about the ones that are. If you think this case

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was bad, wait until you hear the one we have later on.

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Still to come full on -- on the programme, sales which haven't

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lived up to the height. It is a definite scam. Here in Manchester,

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hundreds of people have been along to our pop art shop and there are

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plenty more people waiting to tell us their stories. Let us go inside.

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When Foroozan decided to invest in a timeshare property, she didn't

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realise her holiday home would be so problematic.

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They invited me to buy a timeshare from a company. They started to

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have a timeshare as a temporary, then I had it as a prominent, now

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until 2067. With high maintenance charges? Yes. I must say, yours is

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not the first story I have heard. There have been some absolutely

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awful examples of this selling of timeshares, thousands of people are

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ruined -- it are in the position of being obliged to pay thousands of

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pounds for a property which will continue until 2067. That seems

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absurd. What makes it absurd is it is legal. You side something to

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make it legal for them to do it. It must be you angry. We're hoping the

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UK or Europe will legislate to say, people can absolve themselves of

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their time share liabilities. At the moment, that hasn't come

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through. I am so sorry, there's nothing in law I can see that gives

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you protection at the moment. Sadly, we couldn't help Foroozan.

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Let us hope by hearing her story you will not be caught out.

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We have had another incredibly busy day here in Manchester. It has been

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wonderful having the BBC Learning team with us, dispensing a lot of

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advice to people and I got some myself.

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We are asking and encouraging people to do is to maximise your

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maths, then you will not be ripped off. It doesn't matter if you get

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it wrong, just try. I feel I am setting myself up for

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failure but I am prepared to give myself a go.

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What have we got here? I am going to views these two ropes. Try to

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release yourself without taking the rope off. Can we go around the

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corner? That is a cheeky. The idea it is to use maps to work out the

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number of moves to get yourself free.

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We are getting along like a house on fire. Proving to be rubbish at

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this task. Give us a week or two! The way things are going, even a

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week might be optimistic. Thankfully, we have an expert on

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hand to help us escape. Underneath... Through here. There

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you go. Maths is fun, something we can all

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do. Even if we are not very good, have a go. There are lots more

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games online, lots to practise. In the real world, you are armed with

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good maths skills so you won't be ripped off.

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With pension payout rates crashing and the cost of living soaring, it

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is no surprise that official figures show a rise in the number

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of newly retired pensioners going back to work. It seems instead of

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enjoying the so-called golden years, an increasing number of over 65

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feel forced to return to work. Some you have tried to plan ahead by

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investing your money to top up your pension. When Ian Langley did that,

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his investments didn't go at all to plan.

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Ian Langley is a company director. In his spare time, his collection

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of vintage fire engines provides a much needed to escape from his

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working life. When he is not tinkering with his engines, he

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prides himself on preparing for his teacher. In 2009, the funds in his

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private pension scheme were cut to half and he looked at other ways to

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bolster his finances. The one thing I was aware of was property

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maintained or increased its value over the years which is why I was

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looking for an alternative form of investment which wasn't too risky

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but which would produce a better yield than my pension funding

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arrangements. After signing up to way trade newsletter, he was e-

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mailed by a company called Property Mentor. They offered prospective

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investors the chance to climb the property ladder and managed a

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rental portfolio through a series of courses and tuition. I could

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invest in property, it would produce meat a net cashflow each

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month which I could use to top up my pension. From what he read,

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Property Mentor or were offering the chance to make money by

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investing in property. Most temptingly, the company seemed to

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be saying he could do this without using any of his own money for a

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deposit. I went to a taster session and it sounded plausible. The

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workshop was run by the guy who roams the company. In the lead by

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signing up he would be offered a profit-making investment property

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within 12 months. He liked what he heard and so he paid �997 and

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signed a credit agreement for �7,200 to pay for the cost of the

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seminar, and the information he thought he would be getting from

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them. As I drove away from the course on that Sunday, I felt I had

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now done what was necessary to secure financial security for by

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family. In order to secure that future, he agreed to pay the fees

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in monthly instalments for six years, as well as an additional

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�1,420 for demand reports giving details of properties. I was by

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then convinced the system made sense. Other people had stood up

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and showed all of us on the course how it worked for them. That's why

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I was prepared to pay extra. With all payments in place, Ian waited

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for Property Mentor to supply him with details of properties in his

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chosen area. Ian didn't have long to wait. But, what he received fell

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way short of his expectations. properties they were sending me

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were several hundred miles away from where I live or work,

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difficult to manage those properties. They all require a

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deposit. The cheapest was a �16,000. Typically there were �40,000

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touching macro they were �40,000. Ian was beginning to get married

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and he was on the anyone. -- get worried and he wasn't the only one.

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Other people on the course were getting despondent. Vienna was

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convinced for if you �1,000 initial outlay, he would get a profit-

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making property. Instead he has I have spent a lot of money, and I

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have ended up with nothing apart from more expense. I am left

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thinking I have wasted something like 18 months, and I have not yet

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achieved my ambitions for financial security. To date, Ian has paid

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property meant for more than �4,000 and is continuing to pay the

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monthly fee he signed up to because he did not want to damage his

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credit rating. Because I am involved in financial services, I

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cannot do this. We contacted the company and asked them to comment

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on the case. They were so convinced that the money Ian has spent with

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them has been money well spent that they agreed to give us an interview.

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We ask them to explain services that they provide. We teach our

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delegate seven financial tools. Any one of those financial tools enable

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you to buy property without spending your own money. So in a

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sense you're spending money -- you are spending what we call other

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people's money on property, a bank's money, alone, that type of

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thing. So if he had put our techniques to the properties, he

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would have been able to buy them without tying up his own personal

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capital. But Ian is not convinced and he wants his money back. We'd

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be company be able to give him a refund? We have given him a

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guarantee which we will stand by. Any business, any product out there,

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if it is delivered, even with a guarantee, why would a customer be

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able to get their money back? We have delivered everything in our

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contract with Mr Langley. I think we have gone way beyond it to try

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and help and assist him. If our delegates put the effort into the

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system, it works. If they put the effort into asking for their money

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back, I would question of where their effort is being paid. There

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is no suggestion that Property Mentor have broken any laws in

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their dealings with the in. Ian admits he was seduced by the sales

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patter and did not fully questioned the scheme before signing up. For

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him, the whole experience has been an expensive washout which she

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hopes others will learn from. feel like I have been suckered and

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that hurts. Earlier we heard about Adrian Jones from Wigan a los

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�35,000 to unscrupulous land developers. It is a staggering

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amount of money to lose, but unfortunately not the highest

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amount that we have heard about in this situation. Sports-mad Eric

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Wright has worked since he was 14 years old. When he retired he

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wanted to invest some of the money he had turned to make sure his

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future was financially secure. was having a good back-up as I got

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older, and not knowing naturally how your health is going to be. I

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live on my own since my wife passed away so protecting my future was

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important. In January 2010, Eric received a cold call from a company

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called Property Partnership, based in Bishopsgate in London and not to

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be confused with other companies with similar names. They were

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offering him an opportunity to buy plots of land which apparently had

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massive investment potential. They seemed to be kosher Randy promises

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were reassuring. They made it sound so good that I could not refuse.

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Eric bought a plot in Peckham for �5,000. He then paid another 25,000

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for one in King's Lynn, which she was promised would be sold to

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housing developer by Christmas making him a large hassle-free

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profit. They said Des was going to be a good return, one of the best

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sites they had ever had. -- are they said this was going to be. I

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wanted to increase the money that I had and I thought this would be

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ideal. Once he had laid out the initial �30,000, the company kept

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asking for more and more money. Faced with persuasive sales people

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and what seemed like legitimate business, Eric felt he had no

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choice but to pay, and soon found he had forked out an initial -- an

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extra �42,000 on top of his initial investment. They have a way of more

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less pressurising you and making you see their way. They say that if

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you do not act urgently you could lose all the previous money you

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have invested. They say it is nearly at an end, the sale will be

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going ahead shortly. By the time he handed over another �6,000, Eric

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was getting suspicious. The paper work he was being sent did not

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stack up and all his queries seem to be answered with more demands

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for money. The final straw came when they said that in order to get

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the payout that seat -- that they insisted was still coming, he would

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have to shell out more cash. thought this was definitely a scam.

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I said no, I will not send any more money, there is something wrong.

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�78,000 down, Eric discovered that despite what he had been told, the

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land he had purchased had no planning permission. As Larry

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Russen, a local chartered surveyor in King's Lynn explains, this makes

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the land virtually worthless. lander derricks owns is probably

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worth only around �500 because it does not have planning permission.

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-- At the land that any cones. The council is considering whether the

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area should be given residential planning permission, but that is

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not guaranteed. When he realised this, and it asked the Property

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Partnership for his money back. said he was not happy and he wanted

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his money returned. I have not had any reply for them -- from them.

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This gets worse. Rip Off Britain did some investigating and

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discovered that ownership of the property in King's Lane was never

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even transferred to Eric. It seems that he has been sold other pieces

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of land around the country. He cannot complain to Property

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Partnership because they have gone into liquidation. In the meantime,

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78-year-old Eric has lost his life savings. It is all right looking

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back on these things, saying, I would never do that again, and I

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would never do it now, but I was gullible to taking everything they

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told me. We did try to cop it -- we did try to contact the Property

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Partnership, the company that took such massive sums of money from

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Eric Wright. We sent them a letter, but it came back marked, Return to

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sender. We have tried other avenues to get in touch with them, but to

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all intents and purposes, it seems that they, like the money, have

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simply disappeared. But we will keep trying.

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According to the FSA, landbank schemes are �200 million a year

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headache for them. According to them the perpetrators are using

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ever more aggressive than criminal methods so no wonder, as we have

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seen today, that so many of our viewers have been conned by these

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schemes. But what is the FSA being to combat this? I have come to

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their headquarters in Kenilworth to find out.

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Our postbag is full of letters from people have been taken in by the

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so-called land bank schemes. How seriously do you rate the problems

:38:52.:39:02.
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here at the FSA? This is one of our top priority problems. Land Banking

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is in one of our top three problems. We are dedicating a lot of

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resources to this. Are there any land bank schemes that people

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should even consider? Have I seen a Land Banking scheme that has made

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money foreign investor? No, I have not. Is it always Ali -- an illegal

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activity to sell land that one day might get planning permission? No.

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But we need to think whether this is a realistic prospect. Is it

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likely that a large house builder will buy land from you and 99 other

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people who are all owned land and plots in a field or are they more

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likely to deal with one person, farmer or landowner? These

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companies are feeding off stories in the media about to show a --

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about a shortage of housing in the UK. They make themselves sound like

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the real deal, like proper investment advisers. They do not

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come across as conmen. What chances there of people who have been

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fleeced getting their money back? It is very unlikely, I am afraid.

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People lose shocking amounts of People lose shocking amounts of

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money to this and other types of scams that we deal with. Why are

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you not shutting them all down, you not shutting them all down,

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where are the teeth of the FSA in tackling this problem? The FSA does

:40:43.:40:53.
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not allow it asked to close schemes down. If we can prove that this is

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a collective investment scheme, we can go to court and we have done

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several times and closed down �50 million worth of Land Banking

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schemes. Where we cannot prove it is a collective investment scheme,

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we have not got the powers to do that. In that case, we speak to the

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police and the Insolvency Service because they have been good at

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closing down 70 of these schemes. Thank you very much.

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He that Rip Off Britain we have always ready to investigate more if

:41:29.:41:34.

your stories. Confused over their bills, trying to wade through

:41:34.:41:38.

never-ending small print at least you totally confused? I might have

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been stupid for not reading it. could kick myself, I really could.

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You may have a cautionary tale of your own and would be happy to

:41:48.:41:52.

share the mistakes you have made with fast so that others do not do

:41:52.:41:59.

the same. No one knows about this, so I would like to get this out.

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You can write to us at the address The Rip Off Britain team is ready

:42:17.:42:22.

and waiting to investigate your stories. There is so much

:42:22.:42:25.

uncertainty over pensions that planning for your future has become

:42:25.:42:31.

more important than ever, but it does not come without its risks.

:42:31.:42:36.

Choosing where to invest safely can be a complicated business always

:42:36.:42:42.

seek independent advice before you hand over any money. As we always

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says he run the programme, if it sounds too good to be true, that is

:42:46.:42:52.

probably because it is. That is all for today, we hope you will join us

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