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left you feeling ripped off. think it is very wrong, what they | :00:02. | :00:09. | |
have done. The bank piles on charges and charges. Legally it was | :00:09. | :00:16. | |
right, but morally, that is where the Dow it is. You contacted us in | :00:16. | :00:22. | |
your thousands, by post and e-mail, stopping us in the street. I do not | :00:22. | :00:29. | |
always get a straight answer, they just fob you off. We are being | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
ripped off, big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, as simple | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
mistake or a catch in the small print, we will find out why you are | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
out of pocket and what you can do about it. Keep asking the questions, | :00:44. | :00:52. | |
go to the top if you have to. stories, your money, this is Rip | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
Off Britain. Welcome to Rip Off Britain where once again we have | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
been investigating your stories, hearing who has left you feeling | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
ripped off for how you have fallen foul of sharp practices. | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
The financial pressures that households have experienced during | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
the downturn caused 1.2 million of you to abandon saving into your | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
pensions. Some of you have looked elsewhere to secure your future but | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
with devastating effects. Today we will hear how some of you | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
have ended up losing tens of thousands of pounds thanks to | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
opportunities that turned out to be different to the ones you thought | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
you had signed up to. In one case, the company responsible appears to | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
have vanished completely. Later today we will be | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
investigating how this man stands to lose �9,000 after an investment | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
did not go to plan. I have spent a lot of money and I have ended up | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
with absolutely nothing. And how a promise of profits from owning land | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
has had devastating consequences. We found out that they had not | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
applied for planning permission and they had effectively made off with | :02:09. | :02:16. | |
a lot of money. We set up our very own Pol Pot Shop where you came men | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
and told us your consumer concerns. Some of the stories we will hear | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
today are to do with putting your money into some sort of property or | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
land, whether it is at home or abroad. An increasingly popular | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
choice in this country is what is called a part home. These are | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
bungalows style mobile homes usually sit on private estates | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
where the lure of a picturesque location has convinced thousands to | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
sell up and take the plunge. But they are not regulated in the same | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
way as traditional homes and some owners have found themselves drawn | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
into lengthy battles with the part's management. | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
The John Gilmore has lived here since 1978. With the beautiful | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
countryside on his doorstep and the strong sense of community spirit in | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
the area, he expected this to be his final move. He opted to buy | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
what is commonly called a part home. He purchased the property but not | :03:20. | :03:29. | |
the land it sits on. I thought, this is a nice place, I can see my | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
gaze out here. When we moved here, everyone had their own fence and | :03:34. | :03:43. | |
that was it. This is the hanging baskets and the flowers and the | :03:43. | :03:50. | |
decking that I had. Four years after moving in, lie for John | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
changed. The brand new owners took over the site. It was not long | :03:55. | :04:02. | |
before they started to make changes. My place was parallel to the road. | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
He wanted to widen the road. Not only that, he wanted me to 90 | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
degrees so I was in line with all the others, which they did. In the | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
process, John's porch and decking were demolished and rebuilding them | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
would cost �9,000, so he asked the company to foot the bill, but they | :04:24. | :04:32. | |
refused. John was astounded. It has been spoilt by the way we have been | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
treated. We asked the owners to comment on the way John was treated, | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
and the owners said that when he purchased a site it was run down | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
and in breach of its licence. He said he explained to the residents | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
what needed to be done to rectify breaches, including moving some | :04:51. | :04:57. | |
homes. He said he would not be responsible for moving unauthorised | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
extensions, and said that John was fully aware this included his porch | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
and the deck. But John fought back into Kay's case to court. John was | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
told to take down a shed that did not have proper permission, but the | :05:14. | :05:20. | |
company was ordered to pay for John's damage property and a legal | :05:20. | :05:27. | |
costs as well. John has still not received all of his money. The site | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
corners appeal be caught's decision and successfully. They still have | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
to pay the outstanding fees. I will not do any remedial work at my own | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
expense. As the number of people buying into this lifestyle | :05:41. | :05:48. | |
increases, so do the problems. This woman is on the road gathering | :05:48. | :05:54. | |
information from people like John. It is typical of what is happening, | :05:54. | :06:02. | |
pretty widespread. Does the part have a residents' association? | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
This woman has sent her findings to MPs in the hope that they will do | :06:06. | :06:13. | |
more to protect residents' right. This is a move that one trading | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
standards officer would welcome. Owners can increase their rounds | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
year-on-year if the part was kept up to the standard that it was when | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
people into their contracts, they are entitled to increase the fee | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
each year by the rate of RPI, but the problems come when parks are | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
neglected and the facilities and then delighted use. Residential | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
property tribunals came into force two naked easier and cheaper to | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
settle disputes, but even now, the onus remains on residents to | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
instigate any legal action. I would not advise anybody in the current | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
climate to buy a part home because even if you are certain that the | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
part home site operator is absolutely splendid, how do you | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
know whether he or she is going to have to sell up? How do you know | :07:07. | :07:13. | |
who will buy the site? Meanwhile, the owner of John's site says that | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
with the help of residents they hoped to bring this place in line | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
with the standard of the rest of their parts. But until that happens, | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
John feels that his dream retirement home has become anything | :07:26. | :07:35. | |
but. I cannot sell the place in its present condition. This is not a | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
place we are proud to living. I used to be able to invite people in, | :07:40. | :07:50. | |
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but you're ashamed of the place now. If you're one of the 444,000 people | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
in the UK who owned a holiday timeshare, you have got to be | :07:54. | :08:00. | |
familiar with how they work. You may also be familiar with how | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
tricky they can be to sell on, to end the arrangement if you no | :08:03. | :08:09. | |
longer wanted, so when our programme heard from 50 complaints | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
-- 50 customers of the same company all felt trapped in their contrite, | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
we wanted to see if we could do anything about it, but what | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
happened next surprised even us. Diamond Resorts International are | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
one of the major players in the timeshare market. But Diamond | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
Resorts International is not everybody's best friend. At Rip Off | :08:32. | :08:38. | |
Britain we were contacted by fitted -- 50 British customers of Diamond | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
Resorts International and they are all saying the same thing, that | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
their experience falls short of the glossy standards of the adverts. We | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
cannot identify any of the people we spoke to, and you will see why | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
in a moment, but with the help of one of our research team, we can | :08:55. | :09:02. | |
show you this. We have had lots of it -- lots of e-mails about the | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
company so we decided to look into them. Most of the people we spoke | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
to were initially pleased with their holiday investment, but for | :09:11. | :09:17. | |
some, this Diamond lost its sparkle. Like most timeshare schemes these | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
days, rather than buying into one property, customers of Diamond | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
Resorts International had access to a range of exclusive resorts. | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
People were spending money on points, anywhere from a couple of | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
1,000 pounds, to hundreds of thousands of pounds. With points | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
came the prices of luxury holidays around the world, but there is more | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
money to shell out. Diamond Resorts International customers pay annual | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
maintenance fees for the upkeep of the resort and the amount they are | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
charged is determined by the amount of points they have. That is where | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
the trouble starts. When they signed up they agreed that their | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
management fees would increase with the retail price index, but we have | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
been hearing about increases significantly larger than that. Our | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
and maintenance started off at only �100, it is now more than 1,000. | :10:14. | :10:22. | |
Her management fees were 1004 funded and 50, now they are 2,800. | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
With annual fees now costing more than an entire holiday from a | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
travel agent, the members we heard from decided enough was enough. | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
They wanted out if their contracts even though it meant writing off | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
the thousands be spent on points, but Diamond Resorts International | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
were having none of it. When the colt to cancel the contract they | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
were directed to the small print and they realised that they were | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
trapped. The terms and conditions allied only four circumstances | :10:53. | :11:00. | |
under which customers can cancel, first, the least attractive, death. | :11:00. | :11:06. | |
The second, bankruptcy. You can also cancel if you're over 75, but | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
only if you have no transferable family members. Or if you have | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
medical problems which stop you from travelling. Is such a | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
restrictive contract fair. We need a lawyer. Through the contract | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
there are some interesting points. You can resign from being a member | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
but even if you do that, your liability to pay for things last be | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
on that date. There is a right for the company to sell the points to | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
other people if they wish, but they do not have to do that. It is | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
important that you look at what you are signing up to. I'm happy at the | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
contract, some of the customers stop paying the escalating fees. We | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
have filmed interviews with a whole range of those unhappy customers so | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
you may wonder why you're not seeing them on the screen. It is | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
because after we contacted the company to get their comments there | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
was something of an unexpected development. We gave Diamond | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
Resorts International a list of unhappy customers and suddenly they | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
all received at a letter from the company. It said that they would be | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
freed from their contract under one condition, they could not speak to | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
the media about it. So we're not using the entry views we film, | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
because it seems as if the people speak to us again, they could be in | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
big trouble. I have seen that with lots of confidentiality clauses | :12:38. | :12:45. | |
over the years. This one is unusual because it requires them to pay | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
�10,000 if they breach the confidentiality. They are saying | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
they will go to court and claimed �10,000 if they breached the | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
contract. It seems to be a deterrent in terms of stopping | :12:56. | :13:02. | |
people speaking to the media. Customers may not be allowed to | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
speak, up bat at Rip Off Britain we do not like to keep good news to | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
ourselves. These members will be delighted to be free of their | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
contract even though it does mean writing of the cash they have spent | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
on points. Diamond Resorts International told us they have | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
thousands of satisfied members and their maintenance bills come with a | :13:23. | :13:24. | |
their maintenance bills come with a full explanation of any significant | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
change, which were often due to factors outside their control, for | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
example, a sharp drop in the exchange rate in Europe. They | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
stressed that membership is a long- term commitment and if members stop | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
paying it impacts on everyone else. But the stress that they allow | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
members to cancel under certain circumstances and they have decided | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
that it is in the interests of the individuals we heard from to except | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
the cancellation of their the cancellation of their | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
membership. For these customers at least, Diamond Resorts | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
International's rigid no escape policy is no more. It goes to show | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
that persistence pays off and we're very happy if we have helped along | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
the way. Henry is an independent property | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
expert. He has some advice on how to invest in property safely. | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
Although the market is much tougher as a result of the recent financial | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
crisis, there are opportunities out there for the clever financial | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
investor. One of the problem with Property Investment Clubs is they | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
provide a one stop shop for property, where they provide a | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
source of properties to buy, the finance to date and a management | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
service for when you have purchased it. These three all in house should | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
ring alarm bells in many potential investors' mind. The current | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
financial climate makes it much harder to find the funds and borrow | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
the money in the first place to buy a property to lack, but it also | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
throws up massive opportunities with distressed bales and people in | :15:08. | :15:18. | |
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difficult circumstances. -- a Big companies don't always make | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
things easy to understand. It can be confusing trying to work out why | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
you haven't ended up with what you expected. If you feel bogged down, | :15:35. | :15:41. | |
we have put together a booklet of advice. You can find a link to the | :15:41. | :15:51. | |
free guide on our website. Or, to receive a copy in the post, send an | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
envelope to the address we will give you at the end of the | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
programme. The Here's another investment that | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
can go horribly wrong and has already caught out thousands of | :16:02. | :16:09. | |
people. Between them they have lost an estimated total of �200 million. | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
After buying plots of land that turned out to be worthless. This | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
has prompted the Land Registry to warn the public of the risks of | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
buying land as part of a Land Banking scheme. Were you are sold a | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
plot of land which is claimed to have a good investment value | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
because it is ripe for development. All too often it turns out there is | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
a fat chance of that tournament ever happening which you will only | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
discover when you have handed over the cash. | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
Adrian Jones from wigan macro ran a successful chemical company for 24 | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
years. When he retired he was hoping to enjoy the rewards of that. | :16:49. | :16:56. | |
My plan for the future was really to enjoy my retirement. And, | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
hopefully, to leave our children some inheritance. Age and have some | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
money to invest so when he got a brochure from a company promising | :17:04. | :17:10. | |
big returns, he was interested. tight and see your returns | :17:10. | :17:16. | |
maximised. It looked simple enough, Land Banking UK would make all the | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
arrangements for you to buy a plot of land. They would negotiate | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
planning permission for housing, and your land increases in value | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
without you having to do anything. The sales pitch was, once planning | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
permission had been gained, they would sell the land to a developer. | :17:35. | :17:41. | |
They expected a tenfold increase in the value of our investment. | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
Decided he could expect big money in the future, Adrian bought three | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
plots, investing �35,000. Once planning permission had been gained, | :17:52. | :17:59. | |
they would be sold to a developer, and we would receive about 60% of | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
any but left in value of the land, the other amount would go to the | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
company which was the incentive to make it work. Their promise was to | :18:09. | :18:15. | |
try, try again, until they obtained planning permission. So hopefully, | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
within a short number of years, the investment would come to fruition. | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
Land Banking UK is one of many companies selling land this way, | :18:25. | :18:31. | |
promising rich rewards further down the line when the site is developed. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
But the Insolvency Service to investigate companies operating | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
against the public interest has seen too often people fall foul of | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
them. They are called called by persistent sales people who say | :18:43. | :18:51. | |
they have plots of land for sale without planning permission -- cold | :18:51. | :19:00. | |
called. People are duped into paying inflated prices. That is | :19:00. | :19:06. | |
what happened to a gin. We had bought a worthless piece of land. | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
The company never applied for planning permission. In 2007 we | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
found the company had gone into interim administration. In April | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
2008, we found out from the liquidator that the company had in | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
fact been wound up. Far from making a profit, age and had nothing to | :19:26. | :19:34. | |
show for his �35,000. One might think a tenfold increase was too | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
good to be true. It was. As a result, I suppose you could say I | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
was a little gullible, more than a little gullible. The thing people | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
should be asking themselves is why should somebody call you out of the | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
blue with a fantastic scheme to sell a piece of agricultural land, | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
because if the scheme was that fantastic, why are they offering it | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
to you? Chris from Worcester also took up one of these fantastic | :20:03. | :20:11. | |
looking schemes from land bank UK - - Land Banking UK. We purchased two | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
plots of land and we were told the return would be up to seven times | :20:16. | :20:22. | |
out investment, we were looking at �140,000 return on our investment. | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
Chris was horrified to discover Land Banking UK had gone into | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
administration. So there would be no planning permission and no | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
return on his investment. We were very distressed we have invested | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
our money and we had been cheated by Land Banking UK. We have found | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
that they hadn't actually applied for planning permission, they had | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
effectively made off with our money. The Financial Services Authority | :20:52. | :21:00. | |
calls Land Banking UK -- this kind of scheme paid �200 billion the | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
year problem. I feel there are not enough | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
safeguards to protect the consumer from people who are out to actually | :21:11. | :21:19. | |
extorts money from you. A �35,000 investment is never an easy matter | :21:19. | :21:26. | |
to write-off. And, that is why we continue to try to fight, and get | :21:26. | :21:33. | |
some satisfaction for investors, and that is why we will continue to | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
fight until it is resolved. We won't give up on this. | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
It is cases like this that have prompted the Land Registry to | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
reissue its guide on these schemes, with detailed advice on anyone -- | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
for anyone interested in these kinds of schemes. You can find a | :21:54. | :22:00. | |
link to this on our website. Not all of these schemes are rip-offs | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
but we only hear about the ones that are. If you think this case | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
was bad, wait until you hear the one we have later on. | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
Still to come full on -- on the programme, sales which haven't | :22:16. | :22:23. | |
lived up to the height. It is a definite scam. Here in Manchester, | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
hundreds of people have been along to our pop art shop and there are | :22:27. | :22:35. | |
plenty more people waiting to tell us their stories. Let us go inside. | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
When Foroozan decided to invest in a timeshare property, she didn't | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
realise her holiday home would be so problematic. | :22:42. | :22:49. | |
They invited me to buy a timeshare from a company. They started to | :22:49. | :22:58. | |
have a timeshare as a temporary, then I had it as a prominent, now | :22:58. | :23:07. | |
until 2067. With high maintenance charges? Yes. I must say, yours is | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
not the first story I have heard. There have been some absolutely | :23:11. | :23:21. | |
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awful examples of this selling of timeshares, thousands of people are | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
ruined -- it are in the position of being obliged to pay thousands of | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
pounds for a property which will continue until 2067. That seems | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
absurd. What makes it absurd is it is legal. You side something to | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
make it legal for them to do it. It must be you angry. We're hoping the | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
UK or Europe will legislate to say, people can absolve themselves of | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
their time share liabilities. At the moment, that hasn't come | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
through. I am so sorry, there's nothing in law I can see that gives | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
you protection at the moment. Sadly, we couldn't help Foroozan. | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
Let us hope by hearing her story you will not be caught out. | :24:09. | :24:15. | |
We have had another incredibly busy day here in Manchester. It has been | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
wonderful having the BBC Learning team with us, dispensing a lot of | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
advice to people and I got some myself. | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
We are asking and encouraging people to do is to maximise your | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
maths, then you will not be ripped off. It doesn't matter if you get | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
it wrong, just try. I feel I am setting myself up for | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
failure but I am prepared to give myself a go. | :24:38. | :24:46. | |
What have we got here? I am going to views these two ropes. Try to | :24:46. | :24:54. | |
release yourself without taking the rope off. Can we go around the | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
corner? That is a cheeky. The idea it is to use maps to work out the | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
number of moves to get yourself free. | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
We are getting along like a house on fire. Proving to be rubbish at | :25:07. | :25:14. | |
this task. Give us a week or two! The way things are going, even a | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
week might be optimistic. Thankfully, we have an expert on | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
hand to help us escape. Underneath... Through here. There | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
you go. Maths is fun, something we can all | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
do. Even if we are not very good, have a go. There are lots more | :25:35. | :25:42. | |
games online, lots to practise. In the real world, you are armed with | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
good maths skills so you won't be ripped off. | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
With pension payout rates crashing and the cost of living soaring, it | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
is no surprise that official figures show a rise in the number | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
of newly retired pensioners going back to work. It seems instead of | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
enjoying the so-called golden years, an increasing number of over 65 | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
feel forced to return to work. Some you have tried to plan ahead by | :26:08. | :26:14. | |
investing your money to top up your pension. When Ian Langley did that, | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
his investments didn't go at all to plan. | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
Ian Langley is a company director. In his spare time, his collection | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
of vintage fire engines provides a much needed to escape from his | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
working life. When he is not tinkering with his engines, he | :26:31. | :26:37. | |
prides himself on preparing for his teacher. In 2009, the funds in his | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
private pension scheme were cut to half and he looked at other ways to | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
bolster his finances. The one thing I was aware of was property | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
maintained or increased its value over the years which is why I was | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
looking for an alternative form of investment which wasn't too risky | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
but which would produce a better yield than my pension funding | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
arrangements. After signing up to way trade newsletter, he was e- | :27:02. | :27:08. | |
mailed by a company called Property Mentor. They offered prospective | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
investors the chance to climb the property ladder and managed a | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
rental portfolio through a series of courses and tuition. I could | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
invest in property, it would produce meat a net cashflow each | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
month which I could use to top up my pension. From what he read, | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
Property Mentor or were offering the chance to make money by | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
investing in property. Most temptingly, the company seemed to | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
be saying he could do this without using any of his own money for a | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
deposit. I went to a taster session and it sounded plausible. The | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
workshop was run by the guy who roams the company. In the lead by | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
signing up he would be offered a profit-making investment property | :27:49. | :27:59. | |
within 12 months. He liked what he heard and so he paid �997 and | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
signed a credit agreement for �7,200 to pay for the cost of the | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
seminar, and the information he thought he would be getting from | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
them. As I drove away from the course on that Sunday, I felt I had | :28:12. | :28:19. | |
now done what was necessary to secure financial security for by | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
family. In order to secure that future, he agreed to pay the fees | :28:24. | :28:30. | |
in monthly instalments for six years, as well as an additional | :28:30. | :28:39. | |
�1,420 for demand reports giving details of properties. I was by | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
then convinced the system made sense. Other people had stood up | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
and showed all of us on the course how it worked for them. That's why | :28:46. | :28:52. | |
I was prepared to pay extra. With all payments in place, Ian waited | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
for Property Mentor to supply him with details of properties in his | :28:55. | :29:02. | |
chosen area. Ian didn't have long to wait. But, what he received fell | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
way short of his expectations. properties they were sending me | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
were several hundred miles away from where I live or work, | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
difficult to manage those properties. They all require a | :29:14. | :29:22. | |
deposit. The cheapest was a �16,000. Typically there were �40,000 | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
touching macro they were �40,000. Ian was beginning to get married | :29:27. | :29:36. | |
and he was on the anyone. -- get worried and he wasn't the only one. | :29:36. | :29:42. | |
Other people on the course were getting despondent. Vienna was | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
convinced for if you �1,000 initial outlay, he would get a profit- | :29:47. | :29:57. | |
:29:57. | :30:03. | ||
making property. Instead he has I have spent a lot of money, and I | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
have ended up with nothing apart from more expense. I am left | :30:07. | :30:13. | |
thinking I have wasted something like 18 months, and I have not yet | :30:13. | :30:19. | |
achieved my ambitions for financial security. To date, Ian has paid | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
property meant for more than �4,000 and is continuing to pay the | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
monthly fee he signed up to because he did not want to damage his | :30:27. | :30:35. | |
credit rating. Because I am involved in financial services, I | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
cannot do this. We contacted the company and asked them to comment | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
on the case. They were so convinced that the money Ian has spent with | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
them has been money well spent that they agreed to give us an interview. | :30:50. | :30:57. | |
We ask them to explain services that they provide. We teach our | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
delegate seven financial tools. Any one of those financial tools enable | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
you to buy property without spending your own money. So in a | :31:07. | :31:13. | |
sense you're spending money -- you are spending what we call other | :31:13. | :31:18. | |
people's money on property, a bank's money, alone, that type of | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
thing. So if he had put our techniques to the properties, he | :31:24. | :31:28. | |
would have been able to buy them without tying up his own personal | :31:28. | :31:35. | |
capital. But Ian is not convinced and he wants his money back. We'd | :31:35. | :31:40. | |
be company be able to give him a refund? We have given him a | :31:40. | :31:47. | |
guarantee which we will stand by. Any business, any product out there, | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
if it is delivered, even with a guarantee, why would a customer be | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
able to get their money back? We have delivered everything in our | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
contract with Mr Langley. I think we have gone way beyond it to try | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
and help and assist him. If our delegates put the effort into the | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
system, it works. If they put the effort into asking for their money | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
back, I would question of where their effort is being paid. There | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
is no suggestion that Property Mentor have broken any laws in | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
their dealings with the in. Ian admits he was seduced by the sales | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
patter and did not fully questioned the scheme before signing up. For | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
him, the whole experience has been an expensive washout which she | :32:37. | :32:42. | |
hopes others will learn from. feel like I have been suckered and | :32:42. | :32:50. | |
that hurts. Earlier we heard about Adrian Jones from Wigan a los | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
�35,000 to unscrupulous land developers. It is a staggering | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
amount of money to lose, but unfortunately not the highest | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
amount that we have heard about in this situation. Sports-mad Eric | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
Wright has worked since he was 14 years old. When he retired he | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
wanted to invest some of the money he had turned to make sure his | :33:13. | :33:19. | |
future was financially secure. was having a good back-up as I got | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
older, and not knowing naturally how your health is going to be. I | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
live on my own since my wife passed away so protecting my future was | :33:28. | :33:36. | |
important. In January 2010, Eric received a cold call from a company | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
called Property Partnership, based in Bishopsgate in London and not to | :33:40. | :33:46. | |
be confused with other companies with similar names. They were | :33:46. | :33:52. | |
offering him an opportunity to buy plots of land which apparently had | :33:52. | :33:58. | |
massive investment potential. They seemed to be kosher Randy promises | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
were reassuring. They made it sound so good that I could not refuse. | :34:04. | :34:11. | |
Eric bought a plot in Peckham for �5,000. He then paid another 25,000 | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
for one in King's Lynn, which she was promised would be sold to | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
housing developer by Christmas making him a large hassle-free | :34:19. | :34:26. | |
profit. They said Des was going to be a good return, one of the best | :34:26. | :34:32. | |
sites they had ever had. -- are they said this was going to be. I | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
wanted to increase the money that I had and I thought this would be | :34:36. | :34:42. | |
ideal. Once he had laid out the initial �30,000, the company kept | :34:42. | :34:48. | |
asking for more and more money. Faced with persuasive sales people | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
and what seemed like legitimate business, Eric felt he had no | :34:52. | :34:58. | |
choice but to pay, and soon found he had forked out an initial -- an | :34:58. | :35:05. | |
extra �42,000 on top of his initial investment. They have a way of more | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
less pressurising you and making you see their way. They say that if | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
you do not act urgently you could lose all the previous money you | :35:13. | :35:19. | |
have invested. They say it is nearly at an end, the sale will be | :35:20. | :35:27. | |
going ahead shortly. By the time he handed over another �6,000, Eric | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
was getting suspicious. The paper work he was being sent did not | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
stack up and all his queries seem to be answered with more demands | :35:35. | :35:42. | |
for money. The final straw came when they said that in order to get | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
the payout that seat -- that they insisted was still coming, he would | :35:47. | :35:54. | |
have to shell out more cash. thought this was definitely a scam. | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
I said no, I will not send any more money, there is something wrong. | :36:01. | :36:07. | |
�78,000 down, Eric discovered that despite what he had been told, the | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
land he had purchased had no planning permission. As Larry | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
Russen, a local chartered surveyor in King's Lynn explains, this makes | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
the land virtually worthless. lander derricks owns is probably | :36:22. | :36:29. | |
worth only around �500 because it does not have planning permission. | :36:29. | :36:35. | |
-- At the land that any cones. The council is considering whether the | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
area should be given residential planning permission, but that is | :36:39. | :36:45. | |
not guaranteed. When he realised this, and it asked the Property | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
Partnership for his money back. said he was not happy and he wanted | :36:50. | :36:57. | |
his money returned. I have not had any reply for them -- from them. | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
This gets worse. Rip Off Britain did some investigating and | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
discovered that ownership of the property in King's Lane was never | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
even transferred to Eric. It seems that he has been sold other pieces | :37:12. | :37:17. | |
of land around the country. He cannot complain to Property | :37:17. | :37:23. | |
Partnership because they have gone into liquidation. In the meantime, | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
78-year-old Eric has lost his life savings. It is all right looking | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
back on these things, saying, I would never do that again, and I | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
would never do it now, but I was gullible to taking everything they | :37:38. | :37:46. | |
told me. We did try to cop it -- we did try to contact the Property | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
Partnership, the company that took such massive sums of money from | :37:49. | :37:55. | |
Eric Wright. We sent them a letter, but it came back marked, Return to | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
sender. We have tried other avenues to get in touch with them, but to | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
all intents and purposes, it seems that they, like the money, have | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
simply disappeared. But we will keep trying. | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
According to the FSA, landbank schemes are �200 million a year | :38:17. | :38:23. | |
headache for them. According to them the perpetrators are using | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
ever more aggressive than criminal methods so no wonder, as we have | :38:26. | :38:33. | |
seen today, that so many of our viewers have been conned by these | :38:33. | :38:38. | |
schemes. But what is the FSA being to combat this? I have come to | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
their headquarters in Kenilworth to find out. | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
Our postbag is full of letters from people have been taken in by the | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
so-called land bank schemes. How seriously do you rate the problems | :38:52. | :39:02. | |
:39:02. | :39:02. | ||
here at the FSA? This is one of our top priority problems. Land Banking | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
is in one of our top three problems. We are dedicating a lot of | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
resources to this. Are there any land bank schemes that people | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
should even consider? Have I seen a Land Banking scheme that has made | :39:18. | :39:27. | |
money foreign investor? No, I have not. Is it always Ali -- an illegal | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
activity to sell land that one day might get planning permission? No. | :39:31. | :39:38. | |
But we need to think whether this is a realistic prospect. Is it | :39:38. | :39:45. | |
likely that a large house builder will buy land from you and 99 other | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
people who are all owned land and plots in a field or are they more | :39:48. | :39:58. | |
:39:58. | :39:58. | ||
likely to deal with one person, farmer or landowner? These | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
companies are feeding off stories in the media about to show a -- | :40:03. | :40:09. | |
about a shortage of housing in the UK. They make themselves sound like | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
the real deal, like proper investment advisers. They do not | :40:13. | :40:19. | |
come across as conmen. What chances there of people who have been | :40:19. | :40:26. | |
fleeced getting their money back? It is very unlikely, I am afraid. | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
People lose shocking amounts of People lose shocking amounts of | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
money to this and other types of scams that we deal with. Why are | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
you not shutting them all down, you not shutting them all down, | :40:36. | :40:43. | |
where are the teeth of the FSA in tackling this problem? The FSA does | :40:43. | :40:53. | |
:40:53. | :40:55. | ||
not allow it asked to close schemes down. If we can prove that this is | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
a collective investment scheme, we can go to court and we have done | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
several times and closed down �50 million worth of Land Banking | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
schemes. Where we cannot prove it is a collective investment scheme, | :41:08. | :41:15. | |
we have not got the powers to do that. In that case, we speak to the | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
police and the Insolvency Service because they have been good at | :41:18. | :41:25. | |
closing down 70 of these schemes. Thank you very much. | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
He that Rip Off Britain we have always ready to investigate more if | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
your stories. Confused over their bills, trying to wade through | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
never-ending small print at least you totally confused? I might have | :41:38. | :41:44. | |
been stupid for not reading it. could kick myself, I really could. | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
You may have a cautionary tale of your own and would be happy to | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
share the mistakes you have made with fast so that others do not do | :41:52. | :41:59. | |
the same. No one knows about this, so I would like to get this out. | :41:59. | :42:09. | |
:42:09. | :42:17. | ||
You can write to us at the address The Rip Off Britain team is ready | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
and waiting to investigate your stories. There is so much | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
uncertainty over pensions that planning for your future has become | :42:25. | :42:31. | |
more important than ever, but it does not come without its risks. | :42:31. | :42:36. | |
Choosing where to invest safely can be a complicated business always | :42:36. | :42:42. | |
seek independent advice before you hand over any money. As we always | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
says he run the programme, if it sounds too good to be true, that is | :42:46. | :42:52. | |
probably because it is. That is all for today, we hope you will join us | :42:52. | :42:55. |