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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off?

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think this is very, very wrong for what they have done. The bank pass

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charges upon charpblgs upon charges. Legally it was right, morally, that

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is where the question of doubt comes. You contacted us in your

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thousands, by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the streets. The

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message could not be clearer. don't always get a straight answer,

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they try to to be you off. I'm not happy with them at all. It is the

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small print with the clause in you didn't realise. We are being ripped

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off, big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip off, a simple

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mistake or a catch in the small print, we will find out why you are

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out of pocket, and what you can do about it? Keep asking the questions,

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go to the stop if you have to. do get results, that is interesting

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thing. Your stories, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain. Welcome to

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Rip-Off Britain. The sums involved in some of the stories we are

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investigating today are eye nor mus, hundreds, thousands of pounds. That

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is why we are looking at a few of the unwelcome costs and the

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problems you face when you buy or own a home. The consequences when

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things don't go to plan. The results can be disastrous. Not

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least when it is all down to one of your biggest bug bears, an old

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problem that will simply not go away, builders leaving you with

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unfinished work and spiralling bills. We will have advice on that

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and a lot more. Also on today's show, one of the

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most shocking stories we have ever told. You won't believe the amount

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of money this man was forced to pay just for having his drain unblocked.

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He produced the invoice with the extra charges on it, this was of

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the order of �14,000. And you have been getting it off your chests in

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our gripe box. And now they are taking my conservatory down because

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it is falling down. Many of you are looking at

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extending your home, rather than facing the huge costs and time

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involved in moving, especially in the current economic climate, when

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house prices are so unpredictable. But finding a builder you can trust

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with the task of adapting your home, can be difficult and heart-breaking.

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Lee and Joe Anne own a three bedroom detatched house in east

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Yorkshire. Earlier this year, with their children growing up fast,

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they decided they needed more space. We decided to have a loft

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conversion done to create a fourth bedroom in the house, we felt

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Lucy's bedroom was fall. The aim was to move us up into the loft

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conversion where there would be master bedroom with an enswit.

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got a couple of quotes and accepted what would be the best one. There

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is the amount, total amount �25,240. Work was due to start in April 2011,

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and finish seven weeks later. Before the work started they said

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they needed a quota of the money up front. We were happy to do it at

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this time when it is difficult for builders, it might be as good with

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cashflow. Everything went according to plan at first. They paid the

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bulk of the bill up front, �22,000. At first we were happy with what we

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were doing, they ripped out the old loft up there, they started to form

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the dorm -- dormer, that seemed to go well, that took four or five

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weeks. They started to worry as progress on the project fell behind

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schedule. The work had started to slow down quite a bit. It took them

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a long time to get rid of the old roof joists that were in and start

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the internal work. The sub contractors that were coming were

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starting to not come every day. We were ringing the owner of the

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company quite a bit. He was not answering our answer phone messages,

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or very reluctant to get back to us. Then work stopped all together,

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leaving the family with this, in return for their �22,000.

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We are left with no windows in the dormer, it is boarded up. We have

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no staircase, and no access to it. They left the old Velux, and the

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old tank, which we will have to get someone to sort it out. We have got

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waste, rubble, just left on our driveway. We have wires poking out

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of my son's bedroom, as well as all the plumbing pipes sticking out as

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well. We're in a bit of a mess really. It is a bit of a

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construction site at the moment. Over this side we are supposed to

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have the sink and the basin, the towel, radiator. The light switches,

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obviously, and the lights, not got any of that. The only thing we have

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got is a very election window and pipes sticking out.

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All this adds up to a headache for Lee, who wants to get the work

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finished and get his family settled. It makes me angry they can leave

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the bedroom in that state, with wires and pipes happeninging down.

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The wires are connected, but, there is a possibility that the kids

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could tug around on them and play about on them. To be Hon west you,

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I'm not sure how they are attached upstairs and what damage that would

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cause. We need to get another builder in to do the work. It comes

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to the point you don't always trust what they are telling you. A recent

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survey by the consumer manage seen Which ?, shows in the past two

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years, 2.5 million of us have had complaints about builders and

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decorators. That adds up to an astonishing 2,300 complaints every

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day. In most cases the builder won't have set out to rip-off

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anyone, they will have overcommitted themselves or develop

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cashflow problems. For whatever the reason they don't finish the job,

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if you are the person who has paid out, like Lee, the results can be

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devastating. I must say, I never thought I would get in this

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situation. You hear about it from other people, you see it on TV, and

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I don't know whether I'm too trusting. I feel the amount of

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money that we spent, we have no way got the work that we have paid for

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done. Definitely feel ripped off. Lee and Joe Anne are still chasing

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the loft on version company, in the meantime they are looking for a new

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builder to put the work right and finish the job. That is likely to

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cost them upwards of another �12,000. We signed up for the

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contract, we passed over the money, they have signed their name on the

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contract. We expect them to actually deliver what was on there.

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All the building work and what we paid the money for.

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I will be honest with you, it takes a lot to shock us at Rip-Off

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Britain, here is a story like nothing we have come across before.

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Of course we are used to hearing complaints about tradesmen, we all

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know sometimes their charges with seem over the top. Imagine calling

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out an emergency plumber, whose rate turned out to be an

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extraordinary �2,8,00 an hour. It happened to -- �2,8,00 an hour, it

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happened to Harold. Wait until you hear the blil. Harold is a

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pensioner from Ealing in London, few things he loves to do more than

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listening to classical music. Recently, his enjoyment has been

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interrupted by stress. That's all stemmed from an overflowing drain

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in his back garden. When he first spotted the problem, he thought he

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had found the right people for the job. I went to the yellow pages and

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found an advertisment that claimed to have local engineers in Ealing.

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They said they could get a guy out to fix the block drain, and there

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would be a callout fee of �59 an hour. Harold, who is disabled, was

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keen to get the problem sorted out quickly. He was relieved when

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Property Care Solutions sent one of their engineers straight away.

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deduced it was under the manhole in my background. Lifted the cover and

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saw the horrible sludge. He proceeded to pump water into it,

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and stir it up. With a view to clearing it. He was stirring up the

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sludge with his probe, I guess for four or five hours. He just wasn't

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clearing the blockage. After a few hours of unsuccessfully

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pumping water into the drain, Property Care Solution's plumber

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told Harry he needed to bring in more powerful equipment, but at a

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higher cost. He produced the invoice, with the extra charges on

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it. It wasn't an extra charge but a total charge, it was in the order

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of �14,000. Yes, you heard right, �14,000. In fact, �14,400, just to

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unblock a drain. I was shocked with the price, but I felt I had no

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alternative. The plumber convinced Harold if he didn't use the

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equipment. He would be forced out of his home,

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as the drains would neat excavating. The thought of having to leave

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horrifies me, my home is adapted to my needs. I'm severely

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incapacitated. I have a chairlift to go up and down the stairs. All

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that, of course, would be lift behind, if I had to move out.

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83-year-old Harold, afraid of leaving his home, he reluctantly

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agreed to hand over the money. didn't have the money to pay him,

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but I was going to pay with my credit card, and I got in touch

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with my credit card issuer and asked them to increase my credit

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limit. After I had agreed to pay, and signed on the dotted line, so

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to speak. He brought out from his truck some apparatus or other which

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he alleged was more powerful what he had been using to date. Within a

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relatively short time, I can't say exactly how long, but a relatively

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short time, the level of the sludge started to drop. Upon which I was

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pretty cheered. The equipment may have shifted the sludge, but for

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five hours work, the bill came to a staggering �2,880 an hour. Was

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Harold a victim of a rip-off trader. Let's just see if there's any

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possibility that Property Care Solutions could have charged a fair

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price, afterall, stranger things have happened.

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We asked Dave Taylor, from another local plumbing company, to look at

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Harold's drains, and give his assessment of the job. I probably

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carry everything on the market as regards to cameras, coring machines,

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drainage machines, high-pressure jet machines, rods down to a

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plunger. Nothing extra special that I wouldn't expect to have a

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drainage film carry. I charge �150 an hour, I turn up to do a job and

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it should be on the van. If he's charging �14,000, just for jetting,

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it is atrocious, isn't it. I would like to know what was going on for

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five hours. And where the hell the water was going, if it was

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continuously jetting for five hours. The yes that really needs to be

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asked, when the extra money was paid, isn't it amazing how all of a

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sudden it cleared. It is absolutely clear the company

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charged Harold way over the odds, we asked Property Care Solutions

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for an explanation. They standby their charge, which they accept

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seems high. But they also say that it reflects the fact that they work

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in an emergency market. They insist Harold agreed to the price without

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any pressure or duress, and that it was a fact, not a tactic, that if

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the drain wasn't fixed he might have to move out.

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They are furious at any suggestion that this was a rip-off. Saying

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they are very upfront about their prices and that every job is

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different. Even so, and here's the good news,

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since we got in touch, they have now agreed with Harold a revised

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and very different price for the work. �849. They still maintain the

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work was worth much more than that, but just want to see the matter

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concluded. I am 83 years old, and yes, I would have liked to have a

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nice peaceful enjoyable retirement. Certainly I don't want to waste

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time, as I am having to waste time fighting a plumber.

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You may be thinking that Howard's experience may be extreme, but

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sadly, it is not unique. So when choosing a tradesman what are the

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things you should be looking out for to be absolutely sure there is

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someone you can rely on. Consumer Direct has great advice. If you are

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thinking of having some work done at home. There are a few things to

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do before choosing the trader. Speak to friends and family and see

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if they are able to make any recommendation, or ask the traders

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you think you are going to use to provide references or ask to see

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work they have done before. Look to see whether the company you are

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thinking of using is a member of approved schemes, such as the

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Office of Fair Trading, or local authority Trading Standards

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approved schemes. They may offer you additional help if things go

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wrong. You shouldn't feel pressured into agreeing to a contract, a

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reputable trader will give you time to think about the decisions you

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are making. If you do have time, make sure you get detailed quotes

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in writing, so you can make an informed decision about the best

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trader. If you are spending more than �100 on the work, it is worth

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considering using a credit card to pay, it may give you additional

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protection if things go wrong. Don't pay up front, pacemaker

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staged payments instead when you are happy the work is progressing

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to the write standard, make sure you get everything in writing. Read

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terms and conditions carefully so you know what you are agreeing to,

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if in doubt, take independent legal advice on what they mean. If things

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do go wrong, speak to Consumer Direct or your local citizens

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advice bureau who can provide confidential information on your

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rights. Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, we have been inundated

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with your stories of how you feel you have been mistreated or ripped

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off. We will hear how this woman's property investment went

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disastrously wrong, costing her a fortune. I had lost all my father's

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inheritance, which was a lifetime of savings. I had lost all the

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equity from my home. It makes you feel awful, because I have nothing

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left at all. In a rip off first, our very own advice shop, where

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hundreds of you came along to tell us your stories face-to-face. Find

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out how we were able to sort things out. The Rip-Off Britain pop-up

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shop here in the Trafford Centre in Manchester, has been inundated with

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people all day. BBC Learning have been helping people with numeracy

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in their interactive area. Our experts have been on hand to help

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out. Sylvia from Trading Standards has been particularly busy, people

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clearly are very anxious about the problems they hope she can sort out,

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let's go and see some of the things she has been helping people with.

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The organisation who protect consumers rights, they are doing a

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lot of research on unfair practices in caravan parks, I wouldn't give

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up, obviously you have lost your caravan now, there may be

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opportunities, potentially, to get some of your money back.

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A lot of people that have been coming into our pop-up shop in

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Manchester, have been filling out these postcards. Quite a few have

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been about issues with home improvements. Sylvia, Gail and

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Craig seem to have been having a tough time of it, they have left us

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a card saying that bedroom fitters still haven't finished the job they

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started six months ago, and also they had work done by a builder, he

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has left and not finished the work. Where are their rights? It sounds

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like a pretty tough time of it. Their rights are, under the supply

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of goods and services act 1982, any work that is done on your home or

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anywhere else, should be done within a reasonable time. Six

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months is sounding a very long time to have your bedroom done. What

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they need to do is to put something in writing, to the company and say,

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that this has been going on for far too long, they can time the essence

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of the contract, and say they have to finish the job within a

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particular time frame. If the company doesn't finish it within

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that time frame, they can get another builder and kitchen fitter

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to finish the work and charge it to the company. Unfair fees, shoddy

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building work, rising property costs, they are all problems we

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have heard from people in the Gripe Box. I'm going to complain about

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maintenance charges in blocks of flats. And now they are taking my

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conservatory down because it is falling down. The council tax that

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we pay each year, obviously it seems to be increasing yearly.

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can't afford to put a deposit down on a house. Lots of people have

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aired their property cost concerns, if you would like any further

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information, visit our website. It can be a big enough job looking

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after one home. But many people buy a number of properties in the

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belief that investing in bricks and mortar is the best way to secure

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their future. But for tam sin, it was the worst decision of her life.

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She joined hundreds of other people in putting her money into a

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business that sounded like it couldn't fail. Instead it has cost

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her hundreds of thousands of pounds. When she separated from her husband

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in 2003, Tamsin was facing an uncertain financial future. With

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two children to look after, she wanted work that she could do from

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home. So, when a letter arrived, out of the blue, from a businessman

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offering an intriguing opportunity, she was keen to learn more.

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claimed he was a property expert, and he claimed that he would teach

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people the successes that had made him a very wealthy man indeed.

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man was from a buy-to-let firm called Inside Track. They organised

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free sessions to share their expertise. So Tamsin went along.

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There was a lot of elderly people there, pensioners, they were

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actually saying that pensions weren't going to perform properly,

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and the best way, the best thing for people to do was to put money

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into property. They actually had an old couple there, who were supposed

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to be members, they were claiming they were members, they were

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claiming that they were investigating flu -- investing

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through Inside Track and making money out of this. Encouraged by

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what she heard, Tamsin signed up for a more he detailed two-day

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seminar, it cost her �2,500, but Inside Track encouraged her that

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there was big money to be made. You can understand how. This footage is

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from another of their seminars. They certainly do like to stress

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the potential profits. Nice chunky lumps every time you do a deal,

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nice big piece, nice big piece. her seminar, Tamsin was told she

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could get a discounted price on investment properties, by buying

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through their sister company, Instant Access Prorpbts, they told

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her not only would she cover her costs and make money by renting

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them out, but the properties themselves would grow in value.

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Even better, professional and legal support would be part of the

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package. In fact, they promised they would carefully nurse her

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through the whole process. In return, she would pay them charges,

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membership fees and finders fees for properties she bought through

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the company. They referred to us as "armchair" investors, they claimed

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to be property experts and people with business degrees, with

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backgrounds in accountany and estate agencies, they said they had

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many years in the game and personally made money through t and

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they would hold our hands through the whole investing process. They

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said they had experts on the ground in Spain, that we would be assigned

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a property portfolio consultant, they called them, and everyone

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would look at our particular needs. Reassured by the level of support

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offered, Tamsin bought seven properties in all. Three in Florida,

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two in Spain, and two in the UK. She got free membership, because

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she had bought so many. But she handed over �185,000 in deposits

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alone. I think the first time that I started to be a little bit wary

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of them is when I had decided I had bought enough properties, and I

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knew I personally had reached my limit, but they kept on trying to

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ring me up and sell me more properties. And there were other

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things making her wary. The company had promised thorough, independent

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valuations for their properties, which Tamsin says, she never got.

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On top of that, the rental income was nowhere near what she had been

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led to believe. So very quickly instead of making money on her

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Florida investments, she realised she was losing it. Some months it

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was so bad that I was actually lose ing $00 a month income. I was on my

:23:14.:23:21.

own -- losing $900 a month income. I was on my own, and there was no

:23:21.:23:25.

way I could afford that. Her other investments were failing too?

:23:25.:23:29.

knew that certainly as far as I was concerned, that I had made a loss

:23:29.:23:32.

on all seven properties. I thought this is not just chance, one

:23:32.:23:38.

property maybe not working, but all seven, it was just too much. Tamsin

:23:38.:23:44.

wondered if she should sell, but Instant Access insisted, long-term

:23:44.:23:48.

her investments should still be successful, as they said whatever

:23:48.:23:54.

the wider economic climate. But Tamsin, was now seriously worried.

:23:54.:23:59.

What I started to do was go on the Internet and get in contact with

:23:59.:24:02.

other members, little by little I heard all these other stories. I

:24:02.:24:06.

knew then it wasn't just me. Every member I was speaking to was saying

:24:06.:24:10.

the same. I searched on forums and other people who had lost money.

:24:10.:24:13.

Some people had tried to get some compensation or some money back and

:24:13.:24:20.

they had a very, very difficult time. But it was too late. In 2008,

:24:20.:24:27.

Inside Track and Instant Access properties went into administration,

:24:27.:24:30.

Tamsin lost all the money she had invested. The prorpbts she had

:24:30.:24:35.

bought, and her home. She's -- the properties she had bought and her

:24:36.:24:39.

home, she's now facing bankruptcy. I realised I had lost �350,000, I

:24:39.:24:43.

had lost all my father's inheritance, a lifetimes of his

:24:43.:24:47.

savings, I had lost all the equity from my home, and I have always

:24:47.:24:53.

worked, all my life, and I had lost the opportunity to support my

:24:53.:24:56.

children through university. I can't afford things I would have

:24:56.:24:59.

been able to afford, taking them on holiday, going on really nice

:24:59.:25:03.

holidays with my kids. Really I had worked hard all my life and got

:25:03.:25:08.

really nice standard of living, and always very careful, it just makes

:25:08.:25:15.

you feel awful. I mean times even now I worry about my future,

:25:15.:25:25.
:25:25.:25:28.

because I have nothing left at all. With Instant Access properties in

:25:28.:25:34.

liquidtation and Inside Track disappearing, Tamsin is fighting

:25:34.:25:39.

with other people to get back their money. We're fighting together,

:25:39.:25:42.

collectively to hold these people accountable for what went on in

:25:42.:25:46.

this company, and send out a very, very clear message to stop any copy

:25:46.:25:56.
:25:56.:25:59.

cats, anyone who might like to copy this company. Inside Track, and

:25:59.:26:03.

Instant Access Properties deny any wrongdoing, and describe Tamsin's

:26:03.:26:07.

allegations as groundless, she says she and the company themselves were

:26:07.:26:10.

victims of the global financial collapse. But Tamsin is battling on.

:26:10.:26:15.

Although it will be a long and expensive process. If you are

:26:15.:26:19.

trying to sort out a new mortgage, you will obviously want to get a

:26:19.:26:23.

deal on the best possible terms. That is what Steve and Debbie

:26:23.:26:27.

Matthews thought when they signed up with the Halifax. They agreed a

:26:27.:26:30.

deal supposed to give them for more their money, a lower rate on the

:26:30.:26:36.

mortgage, plus some additional cash, that would cover the cost of a few

:26:36.:26:40.

home improvements. Unfortunately that little extra led to big bills

:26:40.:26:48.

they didn't expect and couldn't afford.

:26:48.:26:53.

Ex-military commander, Steve Matthews, runs the volunteer cadet

:26:53.:26:57.

training at his local base. He's used to putting people through

:26:58.:27:01.

their paces, and he expects the highest of standards. That applies

:27:01.:27:11.
:27:11.:27:16.

to the companies he deals with as well. The mortgage on his sem y --

:27:16.:27:23.

semi in Halifax was due to be renewed. We wanted a new mortgage

:27:23.:27:26.

because it was coming to the end of its term. We got a really good deal,

:27:26.:27:30.

we were paying less than we did before, because of the interest

:27:30.:27:34.

rates coming all the way down. the end of the meeting, the

:27:34.:27:38.

Matthews were also given the opportunity to borrow some extra

:27:38.:27:41.

money to use on their house. Because the mortgage rates are so

:27:41.:27:45.

good, you could get a really good deal, and you would still pay less

:27:45.:27:50.

than what you were paying before. That would be to borrow about

:27:50.:27:56.

�6,500. So the deal was, a better mortgage rate, and a �6,500 loan,

:27:56.:28:00.

and their total monthly repayments would still be less than they had

:28:00.:28:05.

been paying before. Just too good to turn down, they decided to go

:28:05.:28:10.

for it. For once, we had a good deal and we were happy to pay

:28:10.:28:13.

slightly less, than they were originally paying for over three

:28:13.:28:17.

years, but we had some money, we had something in our pocket to look

:28:17.:28:23.

forward to, so we could treat ourselves.

:28:23.:28:27.

The �6,500 arrived into the bank account, and the math enthuse said

:28:27.:28:30.

about doing up their house, starting with the bathroom. It is

:28:30.:28:33.

nice to walk in the morning, and have a nice shower and everything

:28:33.:28:40.

is new and gleaming. And you know, things were good, everything was

:28:41.:28:45.

rosy and everybody was happy. least they were, until shortly

:28:45.:28:47.

afterwards the couple were puzzled to get a letter from the Halifax

:28:47.:28:50.

telling them their mortgage deal was coming to an end, and they

:28:51.:28:54.

needed to get a new one. We were like, no, we have just done this.

:28:54.:29:00.

My wife actually rang them up, and said there has been a mistake, we

:29:00.:29:04.

have one. To their horror, the Halifax advised them the new

:29:04.:29:09.

mortgage offer they had been so pleased with was null and void,

:29:09.:29:16.

because an additional loan meant they weren't entitled to was no

:29:16.:29:21.

longer valid. They were now tied to a three-year deal where the rate

:29:21.:29:25.

was higher, so there would be an awful lot more to pay. We are out

:29:25.:29:30.

of pocket for �40 a month over three years, that is �1400, that is

:29:30.:29:34.

wrong, we shouldn't be having to pay that out when they have made

:29:34.:29:41.

the errors. Don't forget Steve and his wife never asked for the loan,

:29:41.:29:45.

the bank offered it to them when they agreed to renew their mortgage.

:29:45.:29:48.

They agreed because it seemed they would be saving money, not paying

:29:48.:29:55.

�1400 more. Unhappy, Steve marched down to the

:29:55.:29:58.

Halifax to complain. They said it was their fault, we wouldn't have

:29:58.:30:02.

to pay extra. They said they would look into it. This went on for

:30:02.:30:06.

weeks and weeks and weeks, me phoning up saying we haven't heard

:30:06.:30:10.

nothing. Eventually the Halifax agreed to

:30:10.:30:15.

give the Matthews some of the money back. But only �590, although that

:30:15.:30:20.

meant they would still be left with a shortfall of �850. But they felt

:30:20.:30:26.

they had no choice but to accept. In the end we said, OK, that's only

:30:26.:30:31.

because my wife, Debbie, was actually getting ill over this, and

:30:31.:30:39.

stressed, and each day I could see her actual ly -- actually see her

:30:39.:30:42.

waking up earlier and earlier and in the middle of the night. She was

:30:42.:30:46.

saying it was getting too much for her, it wasn't fair on her, we said

:30:46.:30:54.

we would have it. He may have felt like he was in the

:30:54.:30:59.

firing line, but Steve absolutely refused to admit Ade feet. He

:30:59.:31:06.

contacted rip -- admit defeat. He contacted Rip-Off Britain to see if

:31:06.:31:10.

we could help. We got in touch with the Halifax. We are happy to report

:31:10.:31:14.

that the company has gone back to the couple with an about turn. They

:31:15.:31:19.

have agreed to pay the amount they would have been out of pocket, plus

:31:19.:31:23.

an extra �200 to compensate the distress and inconvience caused a

:31:23.:31:33.
:31:33.:31:40.

Steve is very glad he persevered and got the Halifax to stand to

:31:40.:31:44.

attention! When you have had a set- to with a bank, and you are in the

:31:44.:31:49.

right, keep on going, especially if you know that you are right. Don't

:31:49.:31:57.

give up, don't shrivel and die, stand up, be a man, and try to get

:31:57.:32:04.

what you are entitled to. Big companies don't always make

:32:04.:32:08.

things easy to understand. It can be confusing trying to work out

:32:08.:32:14.

just why you haven't ended up with what you expected. So if you feel

:32:14.:32:17.

bogged down, we have put together a booklet of tips and advice. You can

:32:17.:32:27.
:32:27.:32:37.

find a link to the free guide on We all know that buying a home is

:32:37.:32:40.

expensive, but how many of you are prepared for the hidden costs. You

:32:40.:32:44.

have been telling us how surprised you are at the amount of fees

:32:44.:32:48.

involved with your mortgages, so we decided to investigate, and

:32:48.:32:56.

uncovered some interesting findings. This is Chris and his partner Sue,

:32:56.:32:59.

and Chris's children, Callum and Luke.

:32:59.:33:03.

Three months ago they moved into their new house in Greater

:33:03.:33:06.

Manchester. I was looking for about 12 months before I eventually found

:33:06.:33:10.

the house that suited me. I was really excited about that, because

:33:10.:33:14.

it is literally right in the heart of where I wanted to be again. I

:33:14.:33:18.

jumped at the opportunity to buy it. I put in an offer for the house, it

:33:18.:33:23.

was accepted. I then contacted the building society, and spoke with a

:33:23.:33:26.

lady there who offered me advice on the mortgage, I went through bits

:33:26.:33:34.

and pieces and I was told what I would and wouldn't need. Happy with

:33:34.:33:37.

what he heard, and receiving a very competitive mortgage offer, Chris

:33:37.:33:42.

decided to go ahead. I made the application, and the application

:33:42.:33:46.

was processed. During that time I was told I would need to pay a

:33:46.:33:51.

valuation fee, and was told how much that fee would be, I duly paid

:33:51.:33:56.

that. Chris paid �380 to get the house valued and initially didn't

:33:56.:34:00.

think too much about it, when received a breakdown of the costs,

:34:00.:34:05.

he couldn't believe what he saw. This is the key facts that I was

:34:05.:34:11.

sent about two weeks later. A standard valuation fee, non-

:34:11.:34:21.

refundable was �155, the valuers administration fee was �16.50, the

:34:21.:34:28.

lenders' valuation administration fee, �208.50, that is when my jaw

:34:28.:34:34.

dropped. What was so surprising was that 60% of the bill was made up of

:34:34.:34:38.

administration charges. That is not uncommon. James from Which?

:34:39.:34:44.

Magazine, says most banks, not just Chris's, have wildly different

:34:44.:34:50.

charges linked to the valuation fee. There is an enormous varying amount

:34:50.:34:54.

in valuations, you can't escape getting a valuation, your lender

:34:54.:34:57.

needs to know how much the property is worth. Valuations are standard

:34:57.:35:02.

procedures, the cost of a valuation is fairly similar, whoever you go

:35:02.:35:09.

to to have it done. Not happy with what he has been charged, Chris

:35:09.:35:16.

spoke to his bank to question the fees, in particular the biggest the

:35:16.:35:21.

�208 for admin. I was told that whilst they might not agree with

:35:21.:35:24.

the fees, they were the same, nationwide, but they couldn't do

:35:24.:35:30.

anything about it, if I didn't pay it I couldn't have the mortgage.

:35:30.:35:34.

one end of the scale you have people charging the bare minimum

:35:34.:35:37.

for valuation, at the other end you have lenders taking a massive take

:35:37.:35:43.

for themselves. You can pay anything between �200-�450 for an

:35:43.:35:46.

valuation, which is, in essence, the same thing, just different

:35:46.:35:50.

lenders charging different amounts to different borrowers. As a result

:35:50.:35:52.

you can't easily compare total mortgage costs between banks,

:35:52.:35:58.

making it harder to know if you are getting the best deal. Chris has no

:35:58.:36:01.

problem with the valuation fee itself, but why the administration

:36:01.:36:06.

charge for that fee had to be so high, he finds harder to understand.

:36:06.:36:12.

Leaving him, with a simple question. For me, if they are instructing

:36:12.:36:16.

somebody to come and value a house, it is an e-mail, a telephone call,

:36:16.:36:19.

or perhaps a letter to the company that is going to do the valuation.

:36:19.:36:24.

So why then does it cost so much money just to pick a phone up or

:36:24.:36:29.

just to push a button. So, with some mortgage lenders charging more

:36:29.:36:36.

than 0 different fees and in a market where customers can switch

:36:36.:36:43.

their mortgages every few years, the costs can mount up. To help you

:36:43.:36:47.

navigate you through this, we explain what fees you can and

:36:47.:36:52.

cannot a void when buying a house. Buying a house, there are lots of

:36:52.:36:55.

fees to pavement the mortgage arrangement fee is the most

:36:55.:37:02.

important. A few years ago you would pay �100 for the fee and

:37:02.:37:07.

covering the admin costs of the lender. Now lenders are charging up

:37:07.:37:10.

to �1,000, they use the extra revenue to charge a lower interest

:37:10.:37:16.

rate for the mortgage and get to the top of the comparison tables.

:37:16.:37:21.

Two more fees you can't really avoid are the valuation fee and the

:37:21.:37:24.

solicitors' fee. The lender needs to know the house is worth what you

:37:24.:37:28.

are paying for it, they need a valuation, that will cost about

:37:28.:37:35.

�200 or more, then obviously you need to get a solicitor or a

:37:35.:37:40.

conveycy to do the legal work, that is �1,000 and is unavoidable. You

:37:40.:37:45.

don't just pay fees when you take out the mortgage, you can also be

:37:45.:37:49.

charged a fee web the mortgage comes to an end or -- when the

:37:49.:37:54.

mortgage comes to an end or an exit fee, it is worth checking the

:37:54.:37:58.

original mortgage contract, make sure the fees are in there, they

:37:58.:38:05.

are not trying to charge a fee you are not legally required to pay.

:38:05.:38:09.

The next thing is an early repayment charge, when you take out

:38:09.:38:13.

the more, you may have taken on the special deal for the first up to

:38:13.:38:16.

five years where you are paying a low interest rate, if you try to

:38:16.:38:19.

end the mortgage during that introductor period, you could end

:38:19.:38:27.

up paying an early repayment charge of up to 4%.

:38:27.:38:31.

Dodgy builders, poor workmanship, escalating costs, from really

:38:31.:38:34.

aggressive trades people, they are all things we have dealt with on

:38:34.:38:38.

the programme today. They lead to a staggering 2,000 complaints a day,

:38:38.:38:43.

landing on the desks of Trading Standards officers. So how can we

:38:43.:38:49.

protect ourselves as consumers, and how can we fight back against those

:38:49.:38:54.

rip-off merchants. Let's ask Trading Standards. Our research has

:38:54.:38:58.

shown that over the last three years, more than two million

:38:58.:39:00.

complaints have been made to Trading Standards about people who

:39:00.:39:06.

are involved in some way or another with building. That's what 2,000

:39:06.:39:10.

complaints a day. How concerned are you by what appears to be an

:39:10.:39:14.

escalating problem? I think it is about Trading Standards doing their

:39:14.:39:16.

bit, by investigating these complaints and where traders are

:39:16.:39:20.

found to be breaching the law, taking robust action. It is also

:39:20.:39:23.

about educating consumers to minimise the risk of a problem

:39:23.:39:26.

occurring. One of my great concerns is there shutd be more consumer

:39:26.:39:30.

education, people -- should be more consumer education, and people

:39:30.:39:34.

should be more educated about how to choose trader and not someone

:39:34.:39:38.

like a cold caller. You say you are concerned and prepared to

:39:38.:39:40.

investigate, the fact that practices are continuing, it means

:39:40.:39:43.

that Trading Standards are powerless? We are not powerless,

:39:43.:39:47.

there is no magic wand, but Trading Standards cannot provide the whole

:39:48.:39:51.

answer. Which is why I'm saying, it is important n my view, that people

:39:51.:39:56.

are better aware of how to choose a trader. Simple things like choosing

:39:56.:40:00.

a trader approval scheme, getting several written quotes, knowing

:40:00.:40:04.

that the law entitles them to expect goods of satisfactory

:40:04.:40:08.

quality, workmanship done with reasonable skill and care, and

:40:08.:40:12.

knowing how to get redress for themselves. Trading Standards don't

:40:12.:40:14.

have to investigate then, prevention is better than cure, it

:40:14.:40:17.

is that simple. What happens if someone is in the middle of a job,

:40:17.:40:21.

who has quoted you one figure for it, who says this is more

:40:21.:40:23.

complicated than I thought, I need more expensive equipment to

:40:23.:40:28.

complete the job? If you are in that dreadful position where trader

:40:28.:40:32.

gets the Ghostbusters equipment out,, saying you need the equipment

:40:32.:40:38.

of �1,000 every five minutes, put a stop on it, say thank you, we will

:40:38.:40:42.

stop it here, let me pay you for the work you have done I don't want

:40:42.:40:45.

any more, choose trader in the reliable way I have told you. If

:40:45.:40:50.

you think the trader has tried to rip you off for might have,

:40:50.:40:56.

complain to Trading Standards, let them look into it.

:40:56.:40:58.

Here at Rip-Off Britain we are always ready to investigate more of

:40:58.:41:03.

your stories. Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through

:41:03.:41:06.

neverending small print that leaves you totally confused? I might have

:41:06.:41:10.

been stupid for not reading it. Or I have read it and not taken it in.

:41:10.:41:15.

I could kick myself. I really could. Unsure what to do when you discover

:41:15.:41:19.

you have lost out, and that great deal has ended up costing you

:41:19.:41:24.

money? I thought, this cannot be true. It is totally unacceptable, I

:41:24.:41:28.

was so angry. You might have a cautionary tale of your own, and

:41:28.:41:31.

would be happy to share the mistakes you have made with us, so

:41:31.:41:36.

others don't do the same. No-one knows about this, this is very,

:41:36.:41:41.

very strange to me, I would really like to get this much clearer.

:41:41.:41:51.
:41:51.:41:59.

You can write to us on the above The Rip-Off team is ready and

:41:59.:42:04.

waiting to investigate your stories. That's all we have time for today.

:42:04.:42:08.

But do make sure when spending any of your money on bricks and mortar,

:42:08.:42:12.

that you do your homework, and watch out for the pitfalls before

:42:12.:42:16.

signing any paperwork. Julia is right, homework is the key,

:42:16.:42:19.

always check before you sign for anything, now hopefully today you

:42:19.:42:23.

will have picked up some tips that can stop you finding yourself in

:42:23.:42:26.

the sort of situations that we have been hearing about on the programme.

:42:26.:42:29.

Thank you very much for joining us today, and hopefully we will see

:42:29.:42:32.

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