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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off? | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
think this is very, very wrong for what they have done. The bank pass | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
charges upon charpblgs upon charges. Legally it was right, morally, that | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
is where the question of doubt comes. You contacted us in your | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
thousands, by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the streets. The | :00:32. | :00:35. | |
message could not be clearer. don't always get a straight answer, | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
they try to to be you off. I'm not happy with them at all. It is the | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
small print with the clause in you didn't realise. We are being ripped | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
off, big time. Whether it is a deliberate rip off, a simple | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
mistake or a catch in the small print, we will find out why you are | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
out of pocket, and what you can do about it? Keep asking the questions, | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
go to the stop if you have to. do get results, that is interesting | :01:01. | :01:11. | |
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thing. Your stories, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain. Welcome to | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
Rip-Off Britain. The sums involved in some of the stories we are | :01:21. | :01:25. | |
investigating today are eye nor mus, hundreds, thousands of pounds. That | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
is why we are looking at a few of the unwelcome costs and the | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
problems you face when you buy or own a home. The consequences when | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
things don't go to plan. The results can be disastrous. Not | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
least when it is all down to one of your biggest bug bears, an old | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
problem that will simply not go away, builders leaving you with | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
unfinished work and spiralling bills. We will have advice on that | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
and a lot more. Also on today's show, one of the | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
most shocking stories we have ever told. You won't believe the amount | :01:57. | :02:04. | |
of money this man was forced to pay just for having his drain unblocked. | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
He produced the invoice with the extra charges on it, this was of | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
the order of �14,000. And you have been getting it off your chests in | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
our gripe box. And now they are taking my conservatory down because | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
it is falling down. Many of you are looking at | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
extending your home, rather than facing the huge costs and time | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
involved in moving, especially in the current economic climate, when | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
house prices are so unpredictable. But finding a builder you can trust | :02:33. | :02:40. | |
with the task of adapting your home, can be difficult and heart-breaking. | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
Lee and Joe Anne own a three bedroom detatched house in east | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
Yorkshire. Earlier this year, with their children growing up fast, | :02:48. | :02:54. | |
they decided they needed more space. We decided to have a loft | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
conversion done to create a fourth bedroom in the house, we felt | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
Lucy's bedroom was fall. The aim was to move us up into the loft | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
conversion where there would be master bedroom with an enswit. | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
got a couple of quotes and accepted what would be the best one. There | :03:16. | :03:25. | |
is the amount, total amount �25,240. Work was due to start in April 2011, | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
and finish seven weeks later. Before the work started they said | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
they needed a quota of the money up front. We were happy to do it at | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
this time when it is difficult for builders, it might be as good with | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
cashflow. Everything went according to plan at first. They paid the | :03:41. | :03:49. | |
bulk of the bill up front, �22,000. At first we were happy with what we | :03:49. | :03:56. | |
were doing, they ripped out the old loft up there, they started to form | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
the dorm -- dormer, that seemed to go well, that took four or five | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
weeks. They started to worry as progress on the project fell behind | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
schedule. The work had started to slow down quite a bit. It took them | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
a long time to get rid of the old roof joists that were in and start | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
the internal work. The sub contractors that were coming were | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
starting to not come every day. We were ringing the owner of the | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
company quite a bit. He was not answering our answer phone messages, | :04:26. | :04:33. | |
or very reluctant to get back to us. Then work stopped all together, | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
leaving the family with this, in return for their �22,000. | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
We are left with no windows in the dormer, it is boarded up. We have | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
no staircase, and no access to it. They left the old Velux, and the | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
old tank, which we will have to get someone to sort it out. We have got | :04:53. | :04:59. | |
waste, rubble, just left on our driveway. We have wires poking out | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
of my son's bedroom, as well as all the plumbing pipes sticking out as | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
well. We're in a bit of a mess really. It is a bit of a | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
construction site at the moment. Over this side we are supposed to | :05:12. | :05:18. | |
have the sink and the basin, the towel, radiator. The light switches, | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
obviously, and the lights, not got any of that. The only thing we have | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
got is a very election window and pipes sticking out. | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
All this adds up to a headache for Lee, who wants to get the work | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
finished and get his family settled. It makes me angry they can leave | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
the bedroom in that state, with wires and pipes happeninging down. | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
The wires are connected, but, there is a possibility that the kids | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
could tug around on them and play about on them. To be Hon west you, | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
I'm not sure how they are attached upstairs and what damage that would | :05:52. | :05:58. | |
cause. We need to get another builder in to do the work. It comes | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
to the point you don't always trust what they are telling you. A recent | :06:02. | :06:09. | |
survey by the consumer manage seen Which ?, shows in the past two | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
years, 2.5 million of us have had complaints about builders and | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
decorators. That adds up to an astonishing 2,300 complaints every | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
day. In most cases the builder won't have set out to rip-off | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
anyone, they will have overcommitted themselves or develop | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
cashflow problems. For whatever the reason they don't finish the job, | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
if you are the person who has paid out, like Lee, the results can be | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
devastating. I must say, I never thought I would get in this | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
situation. You hear about it from other people, you see it on TV, and | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
I don't know whether I'm too trusting. I feel the amount of | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
money that we spent, we have no way got the work that we have paid for | :06:49. | :06:57. | |
done. Definitely feel ripped off. Lee and Joe Anne are still chasing | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
the loft on version company, in the meantime they are looking for a new | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
builder to put the work right and finish the job. That is likely to | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
cost them upwards of another �12,000. We signed up for the | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
contract, we passed over the money, they have signed their name on the | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
contract. We expect them to actually deliver what was on there. | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
All the building work and what we paid the money for. | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
I will be honest with you, it takes a lot to shock us at Rip-Off | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
Britain, here is a story like nothing we have come across before. | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
Of course we are used to hearing complaints about tradesmen, we all | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
know sometimes their charges with seem over the top. Imagine calling | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
out an emergency plumber, whose rate turned out to be an | :07:45. | :07:53. | |
extraordinary �2,8,00 an hour. It happened to -- �2,8,00 an hour, it | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
happened to Harold. Wait until you hear the blil. Harold is a | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
pensioner from Ealing in London, few things he loves to do more than | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
listening to classical music. Recently, his enjoyment has been | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
interrupted by stress. That's all stemmed from an overflowing drain | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
in his back garden. When he first spotted the problem, he thought he | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
had found the right people for the job. I went to the yellow pages and | :08:21. | :08:30. | |
found an advertisment that claimed to have local engineers in Ealing. | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
They said they could get a guy out to fix the block drain, and there | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
would be a callout fee of �59 an hour. Harold, who is disabled, was | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
keen to get the problem sorted out quickly. He was relieved when | :08:48. | :08:54. | |
Property Care Solutions sent one of their engineers straight away. | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
deduced it was under the manhole in my background. Lifted the cover and | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
saw the horrible sludge. He proceeded to pump water into it, | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
and stir it up. With a view to clearing it. He was stirring up the | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
sludge with his probe, I guess for four or five hours. He just wasn't | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
clearing the blockage. After a few hours of unsuccessfully | :09:17. | :09:23. | |
pumping water into the drain, Property Care Solution's plumber | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
told Harry he needed to bring in more powerful equipment, but at a | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
higher cost. He produced the invoice, with the extra charges on | :09:31. | :09:39. | |
it. It wasn't an extra charge but a total charge, it was in the order | :09:39. | :09:49. | |
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of �14,000. Yes, you heard right, �14,000. In fact, �14,400, just to | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
unblock a drain. I was shocked with the price, but I felt I had no | :09:55. | :10:04. | |
alternative. The plumber convinced Harold if he didn't use the | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
equipment. He would be forced out of his home, | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
as the drains would neat excavating. The thought of having to leave | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
horrifies me, my home is adapted to my needs. I'm severely | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
incapacitated. I have a chairlift to go up and down the stairs. All | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
that, of course, would be lift behind, if I had to move out. | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
83-year-old Harold, afraid of leaving his home, he reluctantly | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
agreed to hand over the money. didn't have the money to pay him, | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
but I was going to pay with my credit card, and I got in touch | :10:39. | :10:45. | |
with my credit card issuer and asked them to increase my credit | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
limit. After I had agreed to pay, and signed on the dotted line, so | :10:49. | :10:56. | |
to speak. He brought out from his truck some apparatus or other which | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
he alleged was more powerful what he had been using to date. Within a | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
relatively short time, I can't say exactly how long, but a relatively | :11:07. | :11:14. | |
short time, the level of the sludge started to drop. Upon which I was | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
pretty cheered. The equipment may have shifted the sludge, but for | :11:17. | :11:25. | |
five hours work, the bill came to a staggering �2,880 an hour. Was | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
Harold a victim of a rip-off trader. Let's just see if there's any | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
possibility that Property Care Solutions could have charged a fair | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
price, afterall, stranger things have happened. | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
We asked Dave Taylor, from another local plumbing company, to look at | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
Harold's drains, and give his assessment of the job. I probably | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
carry everything on the market as regards to cameras, coring machines, | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
drainage machines, high-pressure jet machines, rods down to a | :11:57. | :12:04. | |
plunger. Nothing extra special that I wouldn't expect to have a | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
drainage film carry. I charge �150 an hour, I turn up to do a job and | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
it should be on the van. If he's charging �14,000, just for jetting, | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
it is atrocious, isn't it. I would like to know what was going on for | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
five hours. And where the hell the water was going, if it was | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
continuously jetting for five hours. The yes that really needs to be | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
asked, when the extra money was paid, isn't it amazing how all of a | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
sudden it cleared. It is absolutely clear the company | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
charged Harold way over the odds, we asked Property Care Solutions | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
for an explanation. They standby their charge, which they accept | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
seems high. But they also say that it reflects the fact that they work | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
in an emergency market. They insist Harold agreed to the price without | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
any pressure or duress, and that it was a fact, not a tactic, that if | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
the drain wasn't fixed he might have to move out. | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
They are furious at any suggestion that this was a rip-off. Saying | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
they are very upfront about their prices and that every job is | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
different. Even so, and here's the good news, | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
since we got in touch, they have now agreed with Harold a revised | :13:16. | :13:23. | |
and very different price for the work. �849. They still maintain the | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
work was worth much more than that, but just want to see the matter | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
concluded. I am 83 years old, and yes, I would have liked to have a | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
nice peaceful enjoyable retirement. Certainly I don't want to waste | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
time, as I am having to waste time fighting a plumber. | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
You may be thinking that Howard's experience may be extreme, but | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
sadly, it is not unique. So when choosing a tradesman what are the | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
things you should be looking out for to be absolutely sure there is | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
someone you can rely on. Consumer Direct has great advice. If you are | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
thinking of having some work done at home. There are a few things to | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
do before choosing the trader. Speak to friends and family and see | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
if they are able to make any recommendation, or ask the traders | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
you think you are going to use to provide references or ask to see | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
work they have done before. Look to see whether the company you are | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
thinking of using is a member of approved schemes, such as the | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
Office of Fair Trading, or local authority Trading Standards | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
approved schemes. They may offer you additional help if things go | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
wrong. You shouldn't feel pressured into agreeing to a contract, a | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
reputable trader will give you time to think about the decisions you | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
are making. If you do have time, make sure you get detailed quotes | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
in writing, so you can make an informed decision about the best | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
trader. If you are spending more than �100 on the work, it is worth | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
considering using a credit card to pay, it may give you additional | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
protection if things go wrong. Don't pay up front, pacemaker | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
staged payments instead when you are happy the work is progressing | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
to the write standard, make sure you get everything in writing. Read | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
terms and conditions carefully so you know what you are agreeing to, | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
if in doubt, take independent legal advice on what they mean. If things | :15:15. | :15:24. | |
do go wrong, speak to Consumer Direct or your local citizens | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
advice bureau who can provide confidential information on your | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
rights. Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, we have been inundated | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
with your stories of how you feel you have been mistreated or ripped | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
off. We will hear how this woman's property investment went | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
disastrously wrong, costing her a fortune. I had lost all my father's | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
inheritance, which was a lifetime of savings. I had lost all the | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
equity from my home. It makes you feel awful, because I have nothing | :15:52. | :16:02. | |
left at all. In a rip off first, our very own advice shop, where | :16:02. | :16:09. | |
hundreds of you came along to tell us your stories face-to-face. Find | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
out how we were able to sort things out. The Rip-Off Britain pop-up | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
shop here in the Trafford Centre in Manchester, has been inundated with | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
people all day. BBC Learning have been helping people with numeracy | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
in their interactive area. Our experts have been on hand to help | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
out. Sylvia from Trading Standards has been particularly busy, people | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
clearly are very anxious about the problems they hope she can sort out, | :16:35. | :16:43. | |
let's go and see some of the things she has been helping people with. | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
The organisation who protect consumers rights, they are doing a | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
lot of research on unfair practices in caravan parks, I wouldn't give | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
up, obviously you have lost your caravan now, there may be | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
opportunities, potentially, to get some of your money back. | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
A lot of people that have been coming into our pop-up shop in | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
Manchester, have been filling out these postcards. Quite a few have | :17:03. | :17:09. | |
been about issues with home improvements. Sylvia, Gail and | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
Craig seem to have been having a tough time of it, they have left us | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
a card saying that bedroom fitters still haven't finished the job they | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
started six months ago, and also they had work done by a builder, he | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
has left and not finished the work. Where are their rights? It sounds | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
like a pretty tough time of it. Their rights are, under the supply | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
of goods and services act 1982, any work that is done on your home or | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
anywhere else, should be done within a reasonable time. Six | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
months is sounding a very long time to have your bedroom done. What | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
they need to do is to put something in writing, to the company and say, | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
that this has been going on for far too long, they can time the essence | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
of the contract, and say they have to finish the job within a | :17:52. | :17:55. | |
particular time frame. If the company doesn't finish it within | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
that time frame, they can get another builder and kitchen fitter | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
to finish the work and charge it to the company. Unfair fees, shoddy | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
building work, rising property costs, they are all problems we | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
have heard from people in the Gripe Box. I'm going to complain about | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
maintenance charges in blocks of flats. And now they are taking my | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
conservatory down because it is falling down. The council tax that | :18:21. | :18:27. | |
we pay each year, obviously it seems to be increasing yearly. | :18:27. | :18:33. | |
can't afford to put a deposit down on a house. Lots of people have | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
aired their property cost concerns, if you would like any further | :18:36. | :18:46. | |
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information, visit our website. It can be a big enough job looking | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
after one home. But many people buy a number of properties in the | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
belief that investing in bricks and mortar is the best way to secure | :18:56. | :19:04. | |
their future. But for tam sin, it was the worst decision of her life. | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
She joined hundreds of other people in putting her money into a | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
business that sounded like it couldn't fail. Instead it has cost | :19:10. | :19:18. | |
her hundreds of thousands of pounds. When she separated from her husband | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
in 2003, Tamsin was facing an uncertain financial future. With | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
two children to look after, she wanted work that she could do from | :19:26. | :19:31. | |
home. So, when a letter arrived, out of the blue, from a businessman | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
offering an intriguing opportunity, she was keen to learn more. | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
claimed he was a property expert, and he claimed that he would teach | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
people the successes that had made him a very wealthy man indeed. | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
man was from a buy-to-let firm called Inside Track. They organised | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
free sessions to share their expertise. So Tamsin went along. | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
There was a lot of elderly people there, pensioners, they were | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
actually saying that pensions weren't going to perform properly, | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
and the best way, the best thing for people to do was to put money | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
into property. They actually had an old couple there, who were supposed | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
to be members, they were claiming they were members, they were | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
claiming that they were investigating flu -- investing | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
through Inside Track and making money out of this. Encouraged by | :20:24. | :20:30. | |
what she heard, Tamsin signed up for a more he detailed two-day | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
seminar, it cost her �2,500, but Inside Track encouraged her that | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
there was big money to be made. You can understand how. This footage is | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
from another of their seminars. They certainly do like to stress | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
the potential profits. Nice chunky lumps every time you do a deal, | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
nice big piece, nice big piece. her seminar, Tamsin was told she | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
could get a discounted price on investment properties, by buying | :20:56. | :21:03. | |
through their sister company, Instant Access Prorpbts, they told | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
her not only would she cover her costs and make money by renting | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
them out, but the properties themselves would grow in value. | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
Even better, professional and legal support would be part of the | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
package. In fact, they promised they would carefully nurse her | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
through the whole process. In return, she would pay them charges, | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
membership fees and finders fees for properties she bought through | :21:30. | :21:40. | |
the company. They referred to us as "armchair" investors, they claimed | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
to be property experts and people with business degrees, with | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
backgrounds in accountany and estate agencies, they said they had | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
many years in the game and personally made money through t and | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
they would hold our hands through the whole investing process. They | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
said they had experts on the ground in Spain, that we would be assigned | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
a property portfolio consultant, they called them, and everyone | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
would look at our particular needs. Reassured by the level of support | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
offered, Tamsin bought seven properties in all. Three in Florida, | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
two in Spain, and two in the UK. She got free membership, because | :22:17. | :22:25. | |
she had bought so many. But she handed over �185,000 in deposits | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
alone. I think the first time that I started to be a little bit wary | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
of them is when I had decided I had bought enough properties, and I | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
knew I personally had reached my limit, but they kept on trying to | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
ring me up and sell me more properties. And there were other | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
things making her wary. The company had promised thorough, independent | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
valuations for their properties, which Tamsin says, she never got. | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
On top of that, the rental income was nowhere near what she had been | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
led to believe. So very quickly instead of making money on her | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
Florida investments, she realised she was losing it. Some months it | :23:05. | :23:14. | |
was so bad that I was actually lose ing $00 a month income. I was on my | :23:14. | :23:21. | |
own -- losing $900 a month income. I was on my own, and there was no | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
way I could afford that. Her other investments were failing too? | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
knew that certainly as far as I was concerned, that I had made a loss | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
on all seven properties. I thought this is not just chance, one | :23:32. | :23:38. | |
property maybe not working, but all seven, it was just too much. Tamsin | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
wondered if she should sell, but Instant Access insisted, long-term | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
her investments should still be successful, as they said whatever | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
the wider economic climate. But Tamsin, was now seriously worried. | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
What I started to do was go on the Internet and get in contact with | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
other members, little by little I heard all these other stories. I | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
knew then it wasn't just me. Every member I was speaking to was saying | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
the same. I searched on forums and other people who had lost money. | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
Some people had tried to get some compensation or some money back and | :24:13. | :24:20. | |
they had a very, very difficult time. But it was too late. In 2008, | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
Inside Track and Instant Access properties went into administration, | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
Tamsin lost all the money she had invested. The prorpbts she had | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
bought, and her home. She's -- the properties she had bought and her | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
home, she's now facing bankruptcy. I realised I had lost �350,000, I | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
had lost all my father's inheritance, a lifetimes of his | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
savings, I had lost all the equity from my home, and I have always | :24:47. | :24:53. | |
worked, all my life, and I had lost the opportunity to support my | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
children through university. I can't afford things I would have | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
been able to afford, taking them on holiday, going on really nice | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
holidays with my kids. Really I had worked hard all my life and got | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
really nice standard of living, and always very careful, it just makes | :25:08. | :25:15. | |
you feel awful. I mean times even now I worry about my future, | :25:15. | :25:25. | |
:25:25. | :25:28. | ||
because I have nothing left at all. With Instant Access properties in | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
liquidtation and Inside Track disappearing, Tamsin is fighting | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
with other people to get back their money. We're fighting together, | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
collectively to hold these people accountable for what went on in | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
this company, and send out a very, very clear message to stop any copy | :25:46. | :25:56. | |
:25:56. | :25:59. | ||
cats, anyone who might like to copy this company. Inside Track, and | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
Instant Access Properties deny any wrongdoing, and describe Tamsin's | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
allegations as groundless, she says she and the company themselves were | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
victims of the global financial collapse. But Tamsin is battling on. | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
Although it will be a long and expensive process. If you are | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
trying to sort out a new mortgage, you will obviously want to get a | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
deal on the best possible terms. That is what Steve and Debbie | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
Matthews thought when they signed up with the Halifax. They agreed a | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
deal supposed to give them for more their money, a lower rate on the | :26:30. | :26:36. | |
mortgage, plus some additional cash, that would cover the cost of a few | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
home improvements. Unfortunately that little extra led to big bills | :26:40. | :26:48. | |
they didn't expect and couldn't afford. | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
Ex-military commander, Steve Matthews, runs the volunteer cadet | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
training at his local base. He's used to putting people through | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
their paces, and he expects the highest of standards. That applies | :27:01. | :27:11. | |
:27:11. | :27:16. | ||
to the companies he deals with as well. The mortgage on his sem y -- | :27:16. | :27:23. | |
semi in Halifax was due to be renewed. We wanted a new mortgage | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
because it was coming to the end of its term. We got a really good deal, | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
we were paying less than we did before, because of the interest | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
rates coming all the way down. the end of the meeting, the | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
Matthews were also given the opportunity to borrow some extra | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
money to use on their house. Because the mortgage rates are so | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
good, you could get a really good deal, and you would still pay less | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
than what you were paying before. That would be to borrow about | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
�6,500. So the deal was, a better mortgage rate, and a �6,500 loan, | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
and their total monthly repayments would still be less than they had | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
been paying before. Just too good to turn down, they decided to go | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
for it. For once, we had a good deal and we were happy to pay | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
slightly less, than they were originally paying for over three | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
years, but we had some money, we had something in our pocket to look | :28:17. | :28:23. | |
forward to, so we could treat ourselves. | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
The �6,500 arrived into the bank account, and the math enthuse said | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
about doing up their house, starting with the bathroom. It is | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
nice to walk in the morning, and have a nice shower and everything | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
is new and gleaming. And you know, things were good, everything was | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
rosy and everybody was happy. least they were, until shortly | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
afterwards the couple were puzzled to get a letter from the Halifax | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
telling them their mortgage deal was coming to an end, and they | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
needed to get a new one. We were like, no, we have just done this. | :28:54. | :29:00. | |
My wife actually rang them up, and said there has been a mistake, we | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
have one. To their horror, the Halifax advised them the new | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
mortgage offer they had been so pleased with was null and void, | :29:09. | :29:16. | |
because an additional loan meant they weren't entitled to was no | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
longer valid. They were now tied to a three-year deal where the rate | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
was higher, so there would be an awful lot more to pay. We are out | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
of pocket for �40 a month over three years, that is �1400, that is | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
wrong, we shouldn't be having to pay that out when they have made | :29:34. | :29:41. | |
the errors. Don't forget Steve and his wife never asked for the loan, | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
the bank offered it to them when they agreed to renew their mortgage. | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
They agreed because it seemed they would be saving money, not paying | :29:48. | :29:55. | |
�1400 more. Unhappy, Steve marched down to the | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
Halifax to complain. They said it was their fault, we wouldn't have | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
to pay extra. They said they would look into it. This went on for | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
weeks and weeks and weeks, me phoning up saying we haven't heard | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
nothing. Eventually the Halifax agreed to | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
give the Matthews some of the money back. But only �590, although that | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
meant they would still be left with a shortfall of �850. But they felt | :30:20. | :30:26. | |
they had no choice but to accept. In the end we said, OK, that's only | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
because my wife, Debbie, was actually getting ill over this, and | :30:31. | :30:39. | |
stressed, and each day I could see her actual ly -- actually see her | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
waking up earlier and earlier and in the middle of the night. She was | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
saying it was getting too much for her, it wasn't fair on her, we said | :30:46. | :30:54. | |
we would have it. He may have felt like he was in the | :30:54. | :30:59. | |
firing line, but Steve absolutely refused to admit Ade feet. He | :30:59. | :31:06. | |
contacted rip -- admit defeat. He contacted Rip-Off Britain to see if | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
we could help. We got in touch with the Halifax. We are happy to report | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
that the company has gone back to the couple with an about turn. They | :31:15. | :31:19. | |
have agreed to pay the amount they would have been out of pocket, plus | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
an extra �200 to compensate the distress and inconvience caused a | :31:23. | :31:33. | |
:31:33. | :31:40. | ||
Steve is very glad he persevered and got the Halifax to stand to | :31:40. | :31:44. | |
attention! When you have had a set- to with a bank, and you are in the | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
right, keep on going, especially if you know that you are right. Don't | :31:49. | :31:57. | |
give up, don't shrivel and die, stand up, be a man, and try to get | :31:57. | :32:04. | |
what you are entitled to. Big companies don't always make | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
things easy to understand. It can be confusing trying to work out | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
just why you haven't ended up with what you expected. So if you feel | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
bogged down, we have put together a booklet of tips and advice. You can | :32:17. | :32:27. | |
:32:27. | :32:37. | ||
find a link to the free guide on We all know that buying a home is | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
expensive, but how many of you are prepared for the hidden costs. You | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
have been telling us how surprised you are at the amount of fees | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
involved with your mortgages, so we decided to investigate, and | :32:48. | :32:56. | |
uncovered some interesting findings. This is Chris and his partner Sue, | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
and Chris's children, Callum and Luke. | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
Three months ago they moved into their new house in Greater | :33:03. | :33:06. | |
Manchester. I was looking for about 12 months before I eventually found | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
the house that suited me. I was really excited about that, because | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
it is literally right in the heart of where I wanted to be again. I | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
jumped at the opportunity to buy it. I put in an offer for the house, it | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
was accepted. I then contacted the building society, and spoke with a | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
lady there who offered me advice on the mortgage, I went through bits | :33:26. | :33:34. | |
and pieces and I was told what I would and wouldn't need. Happy with | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
what he heard, and receiving a very competitive mortgage offer, Chris | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
decided to go ahead. I made the application, and the application | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
was processed. During that time I was told I would need to pay a | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
valuation fee, and was told how much that fee would be, I duly paid | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
that. Chris paid �380 to get the house valued and initially didn't | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
think too much about it, when received a breakdown of the costs, | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
he couldn't believe what he saw. This is the key facts that I was | :34:05. | :34:11. | |
sent about two weeks later. A standard valuation fee, non- | :34:11. | :34:21. | |
refundable was �155, the valuers administration fee was �16.50, the | :34:21. | :34:28. | |
lenders' valuation administration fee, �208.50, that is when my jaw | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
dropped. What was so surprising was that 60% of the bill was made up of | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
administration charges. That is not uncommon. James from Which? | :34:39. | :34:44. | |
Magazine, says most banks, not just Chris's, have wildly different | :34:44. | :34:50. | |
charges linked to the valuation fee. There is an enormous varying amount | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
in valuations, you can't escape getting a valuation, your lender | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
needs to know how much the property is worth. Valuations are standard | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
procedures, the cost of a valuation is fairly similar, whoever you go | :35:02. | :35:09. | |
to to have it done. Not happy with what he has been charged, Chris | :35:09. | :35:16. | |
spoke to his bank to question the fees, in particular the biggest the | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
�208 for admin. I was told that whilst they might not agree with | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
the fees, they were the same, nationwide, but they couldn't do | :35:24. | :35:30. | |
anything about it, if I didn't pay it I couldn't have the mortgage. | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
one end of the scale you have people charging the bare minimum | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
for valuation, at the other end you have lenders taking a massive take | :35:37. | :35:43. | |
for themselves. You can pay anything between �200-�450 for an | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
valuation, which is, in essence, the same thing, just different | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
lenders charging different amounts to different borrowers. As a result | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
you can't easily compare total mortgage costs between banks, | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
making it harder to know if you are getting the best deal. Chris has no | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
problem with the valuation fee itself, but why the administration | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
charge for that fee had to be so high, he finds harder to understand. | :36:06. | :36:12. | |
Leaving him, with a simple question. For me, if they are instructing | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
somebody to come and value a house, it is an e-mail, a telephone call, | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
or perhaps a letter to the company that is going to do the valuation. | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
So why then does it cost so much money just to pick a phone up or | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
just to push a button. So, with some mortgage lenders charging more | :36:29. | :36:36. | |
than 0 different fees and in a market where customers can switch | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
their mortgages every few years, the costs can mount up. To help you | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
navigate you through this, we explain what fees you can and | :36:47. | :36:52. | |
cannot a void when buying a house. Buying a house, there are lots of | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
fees to pavement the mortgage arrangement fee is the most | :36:55. | :37:02. | |
important. A few years ago you would pay �100 for the fee and | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
covering the admin costs of the lender. Now lenders are charging up | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
to �1,000, they use the extra revenue to charge a lower interest | :37:10. | :37:16. | |
rate for the mortgage and get to the top of the comparison tables. | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
Two more fees you can't really avoid are the valuation fee and the | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
solicitors' fee. The lender needs to know the house is worth what you | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
are paying for it, they need a valuation, that will cost about | :37:28. | :37:35. | |
�200 or more, then obviously you need to get a solicitor or a | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
conveycy to do the legal work, that is �1,000 and is unavoidable. You | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
don't just pay fees when you take out the mortgage, you can also be | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
charged a fee web the mortgage comes to an end or -- when the | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
mortgage comes to an end or an exit fee, it is worth checking the | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
original mortgage contract, make sure the fees are in there, they | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
are not trying to charge a fee you are not legally required to pay. | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
The next thing is an early repayment charge, when you take out | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
the more, you may have taken on the special deal for the first up to | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
five years where you are paying a low interest rate, if you try to | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
end the mortgage during that introductor period, you could end | :38:19. | :38:27. | |
up paying an early repayment charge of up to 4%. | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
Dodgy builders, poor workmanship, escalating costs, from really | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
aggressive trades people, they are all things we have dealt with on | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
the programme today. They lead to a staggering 2,000 complaints a day, | :38:38. | :38:43. | |
landing on the desks of Trading Standards officers. So how can we | :38:43. | :38:49. | |
protect ourselves as consumers, and how can we fight back against those | :38:49. | :38:54. | |
rip-off merchants. Let's ask Trading Standards. Our research has | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
shown that over the last three years, more than two million | :38:58. | :39:00. | |
complaints have been made to Trading Standards about people who | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
are involved in some way or another with building. That's what 2,000 | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
complaints a day. How concerned are you by what appears to be an | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
escalating problem? I think it is about Trading Standards doing their | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
bit, by investigating these complaints and where traders are | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
found to be breaching the law, taking robust action. It is also | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
about educating consumers to minimise the risk of a problem | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
occurring. One of my great concerns is there shutd be more consumer | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
education, people -- should be more consumer education, and people | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
should be more educated about how to choose trader and not someone | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
like a cold caller. You say you are concerned and prepared to | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
investigate, the fact that practices are continuing, it means | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
that Trading Standards are powerless? We are not powerless, | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
there is no magic wand, but Trading Standards cannot provide the whole | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
answer. Which is why I'm saying, it is important n my view, that people | :39:51. | :39:56. | |
are better aware of how to choose a trader. Simple things like choosing | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
a trader approval scheme, getting several written quotes, knowing | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
that the law entitles them to expect goods of satisfactory | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
quality, workmanship done with reasonable skill and care, and | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
knowing how to get redress for themselves. Trading Standards don't | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
have to investigate then, prevention is better than cure, it | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
is that simple. What happens if someone is in the middle of a job, | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
who has quoted you one figure for it, who says this is more | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
complicated than I thought, I need more expensive equipment to | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
complete the job? If you are in that dreadful position where trader | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
gets the Ghostbusters equipment out,, saying you need the equipment | :40:32. | :40:38. | |
of �1,000 every five minutes, put a stop on it, say thank you, we will | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
stop it here, let me pay you for the work you have done I don't want | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
any more, choose trader in the reliable way I have told you. If | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
you think the trader has tried to rip you off for might have, | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
complain to Trading Standards, let them look into it. | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain we are always ready to investigate more of | :40:58. | :41:03. | |
your stories. Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
neverending small print that leaves you totally confused? I might have | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
been stupid for not reading it. Or I have read it and not taken it in. | :41:10. | :41:15. | |
I could kick myself. I really could. Unsure what to do when you discover | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
you have lost out, and that great deal has ended up costing you | :41:19. | :41:24. | |
money? I thought, this cannot be true. It is totally unacceptable, I | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
was so angry. You might have a cautionary tale of your own, and | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
would be happy to share the mistakes you have made with us, so | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
others don't do the same. No-one knows about this, this is very, | :41:36. | :41:41. | |
very strange to me, I would really like to get this much clearer. | :41:41. | :41:51. | |
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You can write to us on the above The Rip-Off team is ready and | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
waiting to investigate your stories. That's all we have time for today. | :42:04. | :42:08. | |
But do make sure when spending any of your money on bricks and mortar, | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
that you do your homework, and watch out for the pitfalls before | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
signing any paperwork. Julia is right, homework is the key, | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
always check before you sign for anything, now hopefully today you | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
will have picked up some tips that can stop you finding yourself in | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
the sort of situations that we have been hearing about on the programme. | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
Thank you very much for joining us today, and hopefully we will see | :42:29. | :42:32. |