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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off, and

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you couldn't tacted us in your thousands, by -- contacted us in

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your thousands, by phone, e-mail, even stopping us on the streets,

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the message could not be clearer. Things weren't right, it was

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costing me time and money, it was like, does anybody listen?

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Unfortunately these companies are more motivated by their share price

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than actually looking after the customer. You have told us with

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money tighter than ever, you need to make sure every pound you spend

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is worth it. How do I get my money back, I think I'm entitled to it.

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Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake, or a catch in the

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small print, we will find out why you are out of pocket, and what you

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can do about it. Keep asking the questions, keep, go

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to the top, if you have to. We do get results, that is the

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interesting thing. Your stories, your money, this is Rip Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain, the series that tries to

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ensure that whenever you spend your money, whether it is pounds or

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pennies, you are really getting exactly what you paid for.

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But, unfortunately, that's often not the case. So today we are

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investigating situations where you have told us you have had a raw

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deal, either because you have had poor value for money, or bad

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customer service, or, in some cases, both at the same time.

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What makes the cases we have been hearing about especially

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frustrating, is it is the find of situation that could happen to

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every single one of us. As well as finding out what has gone wrong, we

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will have advice about how to stop the same things happening to you.

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Coming up, the secondhand car dealer who proves the industry

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still has its share of rogues. they have the money and the car. We

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felt we are being taken for ale foo. The true -- For a fool. The true

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value of high street gift vouchers, what happens when the shop won't

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honour them? They wouldn't take the voucher, to my mind that was a �10.

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The Rip Off Britain Pop-Up Shop tackles your problems head on.

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When you have paid top whack for a hotel that is supposed to be in a

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league of its own, you are bound to be a bit disappointed if it doesn't

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come quite up to scratch. While nobody expects everything to be pr

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effect, when even the rep says the place should have been downgraded,

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how much of that should you have been told about before you packed

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your suitcase. Clear blue skies, perfect beaches.

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No wonder the Maldives are marketed as the ultimate tropical paradise.

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It seemed the ideal choice when Dawn and Bill decided to blow their

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savings on a perfect getaway. special reason for the holiday was

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it was the first time that Bill and I were going on holiday together.

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We wanted it to be something really special. We both had pretty rough

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couple of years, and we decided that, actually, we were going to

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splash out and have a really nice holiday I had always wanted to have

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a holiday with one of the villas, where it was over the sea, and he's

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a mad, keen fisherman, we decided to go to the Maldives.

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Rather than booking on-line, they decided to visit a travel agent.

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must felt that by speaking to somebody we would be able to select

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a holiday that was much more appropriate to us, than just

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booking off the Internet. We shopped around, looked at other

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places, they weren't really that helpful, so we went into Thomson's,

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and sat down and chatted to them, and felt that they were giving us

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the right answers to the requirements we had. All they had

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to do now was decide where to say, they were recommend today one of

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Thomson's most impressive-sounding resorts, then called Cinnamon

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Island. It was a platinum hole day, a four/5-star, it was a gold medal

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winner, we thought it would be really nice. It certainly sounds

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like that on the website, which describes it as "the ultimate cast

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Ye experience", with a "tropical feel". When we saw pictures of the

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resort it looked lovely. It looked like a real paradise. We thought

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this is the one, this is the one we are going to chose. Dawn and Bill

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went ahead and booked, although paradise does come at a price, in

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this case �4,350. So, not cheap. But they couldn't wait to set off.

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Unfortunately, when they arrived, there wasn't much sparkle to

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Thomson's top-range platinum experience. When we arrived at the

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eye, my first impressions were that it was not quite how the pictures

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looked. It looked quite tatty, and quite worn. I was just thinking, oh

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dear. I hope that our Villa is a little bit better than what this

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looks like. Sadly, it wasn't what Dawn had expected for the money.

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When we got to the Villa, I have to say my heart dropped. There were

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wires hanging out of the wall. The roof was falling in, in some bits.

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When we looked at the outside bathroom we had green mould, algae

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all over the floor. The downstairs bathroom was outside, so for

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privacy it had wooden shrat, but you could also see through the

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shrats, so for privacy we had pieces of fabric, but they were

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frayeded with holes all over them. Things didn't improve, it was not

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an idyllic stroll to the beach. three days we had the rubbish boat,

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which had rusty pieces of metal, it had tanks on it, all sorts of

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rubbish on it, we had to climb, in rough seas, across this boat, to

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get on to our boat that would take us to the sand strip, on one case

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the sea was quite rough, we had to climb in the windows of our boat to

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get on to it. After the third or fourth day when the scrap boat came

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to the jety, I think we just thought we really just want to go

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home. Things weren't any better by the pool. Which the website had

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described as "styled to the nines". The sun loungers either needed

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painting, cleaning, or throwing away. The island was just so tired,

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and so, it looked wornout. I just thought, what's going on?

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This isn't what the brochure says. I was really, really unhappy.

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and Bill certainly didn't feel that they were getting a platinum

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experience worth more than �4,000. So they phoned the local Thomson

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rep to say so. She said she wasn't going to come to the island, it

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would take her a day to fly to the island, but that she would talk to

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the management and try to get them to sort it out, which it didn't

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happen. But the rep did pass on an intriguing piece of information,

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telling them that the resort had been downgraded. Her stance was

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that we should have been told before we went to the island and

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given the chance to choose a different place to go to. But that

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hadn't happened, and when we checked the website several months

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later, although the resort was now advertised under its new name, the

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J Resort Alidhoo, there was still nothing to suggest it had been

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downgraded in any way. I have to say I'm feeling completely letdown

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by Thomson's, I went into the branch who sold us the holiday. I

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spoke to the assistant manager, she was really helpful. She agreed we

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should get a refund, but head office did have the power to sort

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it out for me. Dawn contacted head office, who offered her �175 off

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another holiday, which she rejected. When they upped their offer to

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either �330 cash, or �500 voucher, to spend with them. She said no to

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that too. They increased their offer to �500, but that was off a

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holiday with them. I thought there is no way I'm having another

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holiday with you, because of what we have already had, so I was not

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going to send spend any more money on another holiday. We got in touch

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with Thomson, who said, they are sorry that Dawn and Bill were

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disappointed by their hole day, and having reviewed the complaint again,

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they -- holiday, and having reviewed the complaint again, they

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would like to increase the amount of the "goodwill gesture for the

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Ishinomaki use they have experienced", they have offered

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�1,500,. They said the resort was never downgraded, despite what the

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rep said, but they do regularly monitor hotels to meet high

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standards the customers expect. As a result this resort is no longer

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featured in Thomson's holiday programme.

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But Dawn is still disappointed that the memories of her holiday are not

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one that is she can treasure, next time she will be more cautious

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about how she chooses her destination. I'm very wary now

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about my holidays and who I book them with. I will now only book

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through recommendation. I certainly wouldn't book from a brochure. It

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is upsetting, because it is a holiday we can't get back, our

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first holiday together, you can't replace that. That was ruined.

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Next, a couple who made a purchase that they really thought was going

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to improve their lives. They bought a car. But, in fact, it did nothing

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of the sort. Because although they couldn't wait to hit the road, once

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they did, they soon came to a grinding halt.

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Every day last year an average of 18,500 secondhand cars were sold in

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England, Scotland and Wales. It's not long since Dr Kabas and his

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wife bought one of them. No more public transport for them, you

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might think. So why then, are they waiting for a bus? It all started

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back in September 2009, the couple both suffer from ill-health and

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needed car. So their friends and family lent them the money to buy

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one. I couldn't believe how lucky I am

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to have such a nice family and friends, that they were willing to

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collect money for us to buy the car. I'm really thankful forever for

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them. With the cash sorted, all they needed now of the perfect

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vehicle. They looked on the car trade website Autotrader, a seven-

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seater Mercedes, and ideal for their four children and them. They

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immediately called their dealer, of the The Old Stable Car Co, not to

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be confused with any other company, and all the arrangements were made.

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The arrangement was he delivered the car, because we couldn't go

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there, it was too many miles. deal was they would pay John

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Staniland a �2,000 deposit with a debit card over the phone, and the

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remaining, �4,300 would be due in cash on delivery of the car.

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were delighted, it is too good to be true, now we can have a car, we

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can be independent and our problems solved. The dealer delivered the

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car to their home as promised, although the couple wanted to take

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it out for a test drive straight away, but the couple were told that

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wasn't possible, as they didn't have insurance. As the car came

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with a three-month guarantee, they weren't that worried. So Dr Kabas

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handed over the remaining money, all �4,300, in cash.

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We were so sure that was the car we wanted, we were just quite happy.

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The following day, with the car now taxed and sured, the family took to

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the open road. But after just minutes, the car brokedown, as it

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approached a business -- insured, the family took the car on the open

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road, it brokedown on a round about. The children were screaming, the

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cars were going to hit us, it was a very bad experience. I was really

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shocked. I couldn't, I didn't know what to do. I just wanted to cry.

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Horrified, they took the car to a local Mercedes garage, where they

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were told the last thing they wanted to hear. Both the engine and

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the gear box were faulty. And it would cost around �3,000 to fix

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them. I couldn't believe it, I was just

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in tears, how can I afford this amount of money. Remember, they had

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only bought the car the day before. Still, at least it had come with a

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three-month guarantee. They phoned the dealer, John Staniland, asking

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for the car to be fixed, or the money back. Every time he made

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excuses, he didn't pick up the phone. He's busy, he's on the road

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driving. The couple contacted Trading Standards, who advised them

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to write to John S st, aniland -- Staniland, and reject the vehicle

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because the car was faulty. They were also advised to have an

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independent inspector to test the car. Within minutes when the engine

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started to warm it suffered from catastrophic power loss, it was

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unsafe to use on the road. might think the dealer might want

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to put right a dangerous car, even with Trading Standards on the case,

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it took John Staniland over a year to even agree to fix it. When he

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did finally come and collect the car, in April 2011, that was the

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last they saw of it. I think now he has the money and the car, we felt

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you know we are being taken for a fool.

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In desperation, nearly two years after they had parted with their

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cash, Dr Kabas decided the only option was to take John Staniland

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to court. They hoped they would find out what happened to their car

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and money. Unfortunately, he didn't show up.

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But it did seem as if their luck was beginning to change.

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judgment was in our favour to Mr Staniland to give us our money back.

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We thought justice had been done, but sadly enough, it wasn't.

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Despite being ordered by the court, John Staniland did not return any

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of the money. Refusing to give up, Dr Kabas paid a bailiff's company

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to enforce the court order, even they returned defeated. They said

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they went to his place a few times, but they can't speak to him because

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he has a very tall fence, they send him e-mails and tried telephoning

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him, all in vain, they could not locate Mr John Staniland. In March

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this year, there was a further twist, the couple received a letter

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from the DVLA, saying someone was trying to register the car, leading

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them to believe that John Staniland was selling on the car they owned.

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What a surprise he's trying to sell the car, he has the money and the

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car and he's trying to sell it again. We asked John Staniland to

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explain himself. But he hasn't bothered to answer any of our

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questions. We know he got at least one of our letters, because we

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delivered it to his premises ourselves. And when we did, we

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could see exactly what the bailiffs were up against. So, Dr Kabas and

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his family have been left high and dry. And with the police unable to

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help because it is a civil matter, the family are still without their

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car or their �6,300. I was deeply disappointed, because

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we lost the money that we got from family and friends, we let them

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down. The way I feel at the moment is disgusted with the whole ordeal.

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If you want to join the millions of people who do safely manage to buy

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a used car, then Sylvia Rook from Trading Standards has more advice

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on how to make that right purchase. When buying a car from a motor

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dealer you have rights under the Sale of Goods Act that the car

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should be of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose and as described.

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If you have a problem with the motorcar, you can go back to the

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dealer to get your money back or a repair. If you buy a car from a

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private seller, you have fewer rights under the Sale of Goods Act.

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The right you have is that goods should be as described, that means,

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if you have a problem with the car being faulty, you don't have a

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claim against the private seller. For that reason it is very

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important you ask lots of questions and do a lot of checks if you are

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buying from a private seller. If you have used a credit card to put

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a deposit down on a motorcar, then the credit card company is label

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under the credit card consumer act, then you can go to the dealer and

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the credit card company or both. Always examine a car thoroughly

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before you buy it, look for places where the paint doesn't match, it

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might be resprayed after an accident, look for spots of

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rewelding, if you have any doubts, won't buy T always make sure there

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is the correct documentation with the vehicle before you buy T check

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the registration document to make sure the VIN number matches the

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vehicle, and all names and addresses match up, that way you

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are less likely to have a stolen vehicle. Always get a history check

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on it, that will tell you if there was outstanding finance on the

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vehicle, whether it is an insurance write-off or the vehicle has been

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stolen. It may cost a little bit more, but it is worth it in the

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long run. Overnight we transferred this space

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into a drop-in consumer advice shop, where we met hundreds of you face-

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to-face. There is one particular group of

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consumers who felt they were getting a really raw deal. One of

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the big problems we get here in Rip Off Britain is all to do with

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motoring, cars, the cost of petrol, everything, in fact, to get your

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car on the road. And getting back behind the wheel of her new car is

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proving very difficult for Amily. bought a car in January, it was

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brand new, I only had it ten weeks and it developed a fault. I have

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taken it back to the garage four times, complained to head office

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twice, and I still don't have a resolution. You are covered by the

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Sale of Goods Act, when you buy a car it must be of satisfactory

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quality and remain so for a reasonable period of time. From

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what you are saying your car is not of satisfactory quality. If they

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areing saying they send it off to somewhere else they should provide

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a replacement car so you are not inconvienced at all. If you suffer

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any losses or miss any work, you can claim what is called

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consequential losses, you can claim those losses from the garage where

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you bought the vehicle. Do you feel better now? I do. Good luck, I hope

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you get it sorted. Also within our advice shop, the

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literacy and numeracy team from BBC Skills Wise, has put together a

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series of practical scenarios to test your consumer skills. There is

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one handy device in particular, that is helping make sure you are

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getting the best deal. I break out into a cold sweat when percentages

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are mentioned, you have something there that can help? Sometimes when

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you are in a shop where there is a discount, you can't work out the

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prices all the time. We have developed a tool that you can

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simply slide up the price, slide down the discounts, and it will

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tell you what the final price is. You can download it straightaway on

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to your phone? Yes details are on the Skillswise website. Another

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consumer was concerned she was getting a raw deal on her loan

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agreement, that was Margaret, she popped in to see our finance expert

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to get some advice. I took out a loan with a loan company 14 years

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ago, I'm still paying, I only took it out for �11,000, they are saying

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I still owe �26,000. Given the high rate of interest you are paying on

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the loan, you really do need to do something about it. I would

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strongly advise you to get some free advice, speak to the National

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Debtline and Consumer Credit Counselling service, and see what

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they think about challenging the agreement. It is the fairness of

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the agreement, is there anything they should have done, have they

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done anything that is subsequently wrong, you may find that if it is

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the debt might be written off. Thank you very much for your advice.

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Still to come, counting the cost and the words of that small print.

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The extraordinary length of the terms and conditions we sign up to

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every day. I think the small print is so small sometimes that people,

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they can't be bothered to read it, you could be signing your soul away.

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It is not always easy to know what to buy as a present, even if it is

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for someone you have known for years. Which is why rather than

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risk getting it wrong, most of us, at some point, have fallen back on

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the trustee gift voucher, you spend the money and they choose the

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present they want. Simple, isn't it. Why are some people finding they

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can't redeem their vouchers from the high street store, whose name

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is written all over the front. It's almost that time of year again.

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But finding the perfect Christmas present can take a lot of effort,

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and cost a lot of money. Which is why, when you're buying

:23:26.:23:30.

for a loved one, and you know exactly where they like to shop, a

:23:30.:23:40.
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voucher, or gift card, can seem an ideal solution. Great Britain --

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that is exactly what Marie thought when she was looking for a present

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for her mother Pat. She wanted something easy to find and wrap and

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something they would definitely use. She plumped for a gift voucher from

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the clothing store Peacocks. It was a couple of weeks before Christmas,

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I had bought my sister and my mum a present, I thought because they do

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so much for me, I would like to give them something more, and I

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know they both like shopping at Peacocks. Unknown to Marie,

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Peacocks was about to become the latest high street shop to come

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into trouble. A few week after she handed over her presents, it was

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announced the chain was in administration. While a buyer was

:24:25.:24:31.

sought, its shops were still trading. Maria's mum thought she

:24:31.:24:34.

better spend the voucher at the local branch after seeing the news.

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I went into town and had a word with the staff, they said there was

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a problem, and they would probably all be losing their jobs. So I was

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quite happy that I got in with the voucher when I did. Two days later

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Pat returned to the same store, this time to spend her daughter

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Elizabeth's voucher on her behalf. I picked up a few things, when I

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got to the counter they said they are sorry they can't accept the

:24:59.:25:04.

vouchers any more, they are invalid. Pat was told the voucher was now

:25:04.:25:08.

useless. They just would not accept the voucher at all, despite the

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fact that, to my mind, that voucher was, in effect, a �10, so we were

:25:12.:25:16.

left with a voucher that we couldn't use. The store had, of

:25:16.:25:20.

course, already accepted the money to purchase the voucher, but,

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perhaps surprisingly, that didn't mean the store was obliged to

:25:24.:25:28.

honour it. Many people that vouchers or gift cars are as good

:25:28.:25:32.

as a bank note, they are real cash, they are not. They are a promise,

:25:32.:25:37.

by the company that issues them, to let you spend that much money. If

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that company goes out of business, goes into administration, or goes

:25:40.:25:44.

bankrupt, then that promise, of course, dies with the company. And

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this really does frustrate people, because when a company goes into

:25:48.:25:51.

administration, it will problem still be running in some way, they

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will still be the same shops on the high street, they will be owned by

:25:55.:26:00.

the administrators, not by the firm. And those administrators have

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absolutely no obligation to honour the promises that were made. Back

:26:06.:26:11.

in the Wirral, Pat of determined to get her money back for her daughter.

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But the official statement from the administrators didn't offer much

:26:15.:26:19.

hope. It said voucher holders will count as unsecured creditor, and as

:26:19.:26:23.

such could complete a form to make a claim. But it made clear that due

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to the financial situation at Peacock, they are likely to see a

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nominal return. Pat and Marie did make a claim, as

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the administrators advised, they were astonished by the response.

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the bottom of this letter we got back, it says "based on the current

:26:42.:26:46.

information, the dividend is estimated to be 0.7p in the pound,

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this means the likely return for a gift voucher with a value of �10

:26:52.:26:58.

will be 7p". Can you believe that? 7p, it is an absolute insult.

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Peacocks was bought by Edinburgh Woolen Mill last February, but the

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store has confirmed, gift karlds bought prior to administration,

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won't -- giftcards bought prior to administration, won't be honoured.

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KPMG said though they sympathise, they are bound by the law on how

:27:15.:27:19.

they deal with the claims of unsecured creditors, and it is

:27:19.:27:23.

common practice for administrators not to honour gift vouchers.

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So, whatever else this family give each other this Christmas, you can

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bet it won't be a voucher or a gift card. I certainly won't be buying a

:27:31.:27:36.

piece of plastic again, it is not worth it. It is a rubbish present.

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It was a nice thought. It's not your fault it went wrong. We might

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get 7p! If something is sold for one specific purpose, that is

:27:52.:27:55.

exactly what you are meant to get. So you can understand why the

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couple we're about to meet were livid after what they bought failed

:27:59.:28:04.

to live up to the one simple promise. It is a type of insurance

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that sounds clear-cut, but an increasing number of people have

:28:07.:28:15.

found it's far from that. Whether you get it new or secondhand, one

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of the most frustrating things about buying a car is how quickly

:28:20.:28:23.

it depreciate in value. Which is why what is known as gap insurance

:28:23.:28:28.

seems such a good idea. If your vehicle is written off, it covers

:28:28.:28:31.

the difference between what the car was worth at the time it was

:28:31.:28:38.

damaged, and what you paid in the first place.

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Neil and Denise Thomson had never heard of it until five years ago

:28:42.:28:45.

Denise bought a secondhand car on finance. And, immediately

:28:45.:28:49.

afterwards, the dealer rang suggesting gap insurance was

:28:49.:28:53.

something she would need. I asked him what the gap insurance was, and

:28:53.:28:57.

they explained that any loss on the vehicle, that it pays the

:28:57.:29:02.

difference, the outstanding difference to the finance company.

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I took the policy out, because it wasn't expensive. The dealer

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arranged the finance and gap insurance through the same company,

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although Denise and Neil didn't see the paperwork. The actual policy

:29:16.:29:20.

was sold to my wife over the phone, and she agreed to sign up for it

:29:20.:29:25.

over the phone. There was no paperwork. But the policy seemed a

:29:25.:29:29.

very good thing to have, because, if the car was declared a total

:29:29.:29:32.

loss, it would cover the shortfall between what the vehicle was valued

:29:32.:29:37.

at, and any remaining finance. Of course, the Thomson's hoped nothing

:29:37.:29:43.

would ever happen to the car. But, three years later, it did.

:29:43.:29:48.

August my son borrowed the car to go to his girlfriend's father's

:29:48.:29:52.

work place, he left the car there, and they came home, and we got a

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phone call from the police, I think it was, saying that the car had

:29:55.:30:03.

been set on fire. The unprovoked arson attack totally destroyed the

:30:03.:30:07.

car. Denise was gutted, it was her pride and joy, she used the car

:30:07.:30:14.

nearly every day, so, she was gutted. At the time the Thomson's

:30:14.:30:22.

owed �6064 to the finance company. �4475 of that was quickly paid off

:30:22.:30:26.

under their car insurance. And they were confident that the remaining

:30:26.:30:33.

shortfall of �1,589 would be paid off by their gap insurance.

:30:34.:30:41.

Afterall, the G-A-P in gap insurance, standed for guaranteed

:30:41.:30:45.

asset protection. Much to the couples' surprise the policy paid

:30:45.:30:51.

out only half of that, leaving them with �738 still owed. When it came

:30:51.:30:57.

down to what the primary insurer actually paid to the finance

:30:57.:31:02.

company, the gap insurance should have then paid the difference, they

:31:02.:31:06.

didn't, that is the whole crux of the matter, they didn't keep their

:31:06.:31:10.

end of the bargain on the gap insurance. The gap insurer, the

:31:10.:31:17.

London General Insurance Company Ltd, reduced to pay the amount,

:31:17.:31:21.

because they said when Denise bought the car, they paid more than

:31:21.:31:25.

market value, and they considered it to be negative equity and not

:31:25.:31:27.

their responsibility. But Neil didn't agree. And he was determined

:31:27.:31:31.

to get what he felt was owed. So, he asked the company to send him

:31:32.:31:36.

the policy documents. When we actually got the policy documents,

:31:36.:31:41.

the terms and conditions in it were so awkward to understand, as a lay

:31:41.:31:44.

person, who had never any dealings with insurance companies in this

:31:44.:31:50.

manner, it was very difficult. refusing to give up, Neil dug a bit

:31:50.:31:55.

deeper. He had a look at his insurer's website, and found a big

:31:55.:31:58.

gap between the way the insurance was described in the paperwork he

:31:58.:32:03.

was sent, and how it was explained on-line. When I looked at the

:32:03.:32:07.

website, it was dead clear, the policy that they were selling was

:32:07.:32:11.

dead clear. It was very, very simple to understand. So when we

:32:11.:32:15.

got the terms and conditions, it made it looks a though they were

:32:15.:32:20.

two different policies. The website wording seemed clear, that the

:32:20.:32:23.

policy would pay the outstanding balance at the time of the loss to

:32:23.:32:28.

the finance company. So, armed with this information, Neil took his

:32:28.:32:34.

case to the Financial Ombudsman Service. I formally wrote to them

:32:34.:32:38.

complaining about the gap insurance. I detailed all the paperwork that I

:32:38.:32:44.

had, and sent many, many reams of paper off to them for them to

:32:44.:32:48.

consider. The adjudicator came down on our side saying they were right,

:32:48.:32:52.

and the gap insurance should have said the correct amount and hadn't.

:32:52.:32:57.

But that wasn't the end of it. The insurers disputed that decision, on

:32:57.:33:00.

the grounds that although it was their policy, it hadn't been they

:33:00.:33:05.

that had sold it to Denise. I was annoyed and angry about, that they

:33:05.:33:09.

were trying to absolve their responsibility. So I think they

:33:09.:33:19.
:33:19.:33:19.

were just being obstructive once again, not want to go pay what was

:33:19.:33:25.

due. It was left to the Financial Ombudsman Service to decide. They

:33:25.:33:32.

agreed Neil and Denise should have been paid the amount, and the terms

:33:32.:33:36.

and conditions were not clear enough, and the website was

:33:36.:33:39.

misleading. I was absolutely delighted because at every stage we

:33:39.:33:44.

have been right regarding what the policy was, and just vindicated for

:33:44.:33:48.

all the hard work we had put in over the two years to try to get it

:33:48.:33:52.

settle. When we contacted the insurance company, they reiterated

:33:52.:33:55.

in their opinion the issue here was to do with the way the policy was

:33:56.:33:59.

sold. And they believed they calculated the settlement correctly.

:33:59.:34:04.

But they confirmed they had accepted the ombudsman's decision,

:34:04.:34:08.

and paid the money. Neil and Denise aren't the only ones to find that

:34:08.:34:13.

gap insurance doesn't always do quite what it says on the tin. Over

:34:13.:34:16.

the last years complaints to the Financial Ombudsman Service about

:34:16.:34:21.

this kind of policy increased by 17%. If you are getting this kind

:34:21.:34:24.

of policy, keep in mind it may not always be as straight forward or

:34:24.:34:28.

clear cut as it appears. I would say to other people be very, very

:34:28.:34:31.

careful when you are taking gap insurance out, that you understand

:34:31.:34:36.

the terms and conditions that they may not pay out at the end of it.

:34:36.:34:40.

Because of certain elements within the terms and conditions, be very,

:34:40.:34:49.

very clear on what you are buying. Sometimes when you feel ripped off,

:34:49.:34:52.

it could be you that's made a mistake. Perhaps you didn't read

:34:52.:34:58.

the small print, or realise the consequences of what you signed up

:34:58.:35:01.

to. Whoever is at fault, when things go wrong, you need to know

:35:01.:35:05.

what to do about it. We put together a booklet of tips and

:35:05.:35:12.

advice, you can find a link to the new free guide on our website.

:35:12.:35:18.

Or to receive a copy in the post, send a stamped self-addressed A5

:35:18.:35:21.

envelope to the address we will give you right at the end of the

:35:21.:35:26.

programme. Here at Rip Off Britain we always

:35:26.:35:29.

say, don't forget to read the small print. But because the terms and

:35:30.:35:35.

conditions we sign up to are so long, and sometimes quite frankly,

:35:35.:35:38.

extremely confusing, you can understand why some people find it

:35:38.:35:42.

easier not to bother analysing the small print. In fact the Office of

:35:42.:35:45.

Fair Trading says one in ten of us are sign contracts without reading

:35:45.:35:51.

a single word. According to the experts, it is

:35:51.:35:55.

words like these in a contract, that are most likely to leave you

:35:55.:36:00.

drowning in a sea of small print. Words too many of you never

:36:00.:36:05.

question, and words some of you never even read. I never bother

:36:05.:36:13.

reading it t I just tick the box, and hope nothing -- I just tick the

:36:13.:36:17.

box and hope nothing happens. should read it, if you don't it is

:36:17.:36:21.

your own fault. They don't give you the chance and time to read through

:36:21.:36:24.

all the small print. The small print is so small people can't be

:36:24.:36:31.

bothered to read it, you could be signing your soul away. The Plain

:36:31.:36:38.

English Campaign continually hear from consumers who fail to read the

:36:38.:36:41.

small print. Many of us don't read the terms and conditions, the

:36:41.:36:45.

problem is as soon as you tick the box and put your name on the boted

:36:45.:36:48.

line, you have given up all chance -- dotted line, you have given up

:36:48.:36:58.
:36:58.:37:02.

all chance of resource -- replying. It is written in tiny packed

:37:02.:37:08.

sentences, full of industry jargon and terminology we don't use on a

:37:08.:37:10.

regular basis. Why do companies make their conditions so difficult

:37:10.:37:13.

to wade through. The office in fair trading says one in five people

:37:13.:37:16.

would have had some sort of difficulty with a consumer contract

:37:16.:37:21.

just in the past year, and while not all of those will be serious,

:37:21.:37:26.

as we see all too often on this programme, getting caught out by

:37:26.:37:30.

the small print can result in a significant loss of money. Who are

:37:30.:37:34.

the worst offenders, and which industry do consumers have the most

:37:34.:37:40.

problems with, when it comes to contracts. A recent report carried

:37:40.:37:46.

out by YouGov, did a survey to work out exactly that. Telecoms and

:37:46.:37:50.

internet contracts came top of the list, where consumers had

:37:50.:37:56.

experienced problems in the last 12 months, closely followed by home

:37:56.:38:00.

entertainment products like television systems, mobile phones

:38:00.:38:04.

and delivery services featured high up on the list of complaints. Is

:38:04.:38:07.

one reason people fall foul of contracts simply that they are too

:38:07.:38:12.

long and wordy to wade through. To read or not to read, that is the

:38:12.:38:17.

question. With contracts and paperwork, how many words are too

:38:17.:38:22.

many words? Which? Magazine totted up the words in the terms and

:38:22.:38:26.

conditions for the Internet payment service PayPal, believe it or not,

:38:26.:38:33.

they found there were 36,000 of them, that is 6,000 words longer

:38:33.:38:37.

than Shakespeare's Hamlet. Then there is iTunes, they totted up the

:38:37.:38:41.

words in their terms and conditions, believe it or not there were almost

:38:41.:38:45.

20,000 of them, making them longer than Macbeth, which makes you

:38:45.:38:48.

wonder how many of the hundreds of thousands of people who have signed

:38:48.:38:52.

up to iTunes terms have actually read them. How many just ticked the

:38:52.:38:56.

box to say they had, but, in fact, didn't bother. The information is

:38:56.:39:00.

not presented in a way that is accessible for most people. I never

:39:00.:39:04.

read through anything I tick or sign, people know that. The very

:39:04.:39:08.

first time I got iTunes, years and years ago, every time there is an

:39:08.:39:11.

update, I have to say yes to something, I wouldn't, not any more,

:39:11.:39:16.

not on iTunes. ITunes didn't want to comment. But PayPal said, that

:39:16.:39:19.

although they recognise their user agreement is rather long, it

:39:19.:39:22.

contains a huge amount of information about their services,

:39:22.:39:26.

protection policies and much more. They say they summarised the key

:39:26.:39:30.

points at the start, and then links allow you to jump straight to the

:39:30.:39:34.

relevant section. And although they do think it is clear, they are now

:39:34.:39:39.

looking at how to make it shorter. The Plain English Campaign, has

:39:39.:39:43.

come up with a way to encourage big companies to make their contracts

:39:43.:39:49.

easier to understand. The Plain English Campaign decided they

:39:49.:39:52.

needed some kind of guide for the public to recognise clear

:39:52.:39:58.

information. That is what the Chris kal Mark provides, people -- the

:39:58.:40:03.

Crystal Mark provides, people should look out for it, whether in

:40:03.:40:07.

the doctors' surgery or medical leaflets, or in your energy bills,

:40:07.:40:14.

so if it has the Crystal Mark it has been through the Plain English

:40:14.:40:18.

he had bitting process. The best thing with a contract if you don't

:40:18.:40:22.

understand it, don't sign it. Take extra care going through the small

:40:22.:40:25.

print for anything that is particularly expensive, or you are

:40:25.:40:28.

dealing with a business you are not familiar with. If you are talking

:40:28.:40:31.

to someone on the telephone, get them to send your their terms and

:40:31.:40:34.

conditions before signing up. Don't get caught out because you haven't

:40:34.:40:39.

had the time or haven't bothered to even look at the paperwork. And we

:40:39.:40:43.

have seen more advice on this on our website. I think you know it by

:40:43.:40:53.
:40:53.:40:53.

now, but it is below. Here at Rip Off Britain, we are

:40:53.:40:58.

always ready to investigate more of your stories. Confuses over your

:40:58.:41:01.

bills? Trying to wade your way through neverending small print?

:41:02.:41:06.

should read it, but it is not in plain English, it should be simple,

:41:06.:41:10.

ABC, very basic stuff. Unsure what to do when you discover you have

:41:10.:41:14.

lost out and that great dole has ended up costing you money. You get

:41:14.:41:19.

home and you get your bill, it is �70 and it is meant to be �35, it

:41:19.:41:23.

is just basically you get ripped off, don't you.

:41:23.:41:27.

You might have cautionary tale of your own and want to share the

:41:27.:41:31.

mistake s you made with us so other people don't do the same thing.

:41:31.:41:35.

feel angry and stupid that I had allowed this to happen to me.

:41:35.:41:45.
:41:45.:41:59.

Don't forget the Rip Off team is ready and waiting to investigate

:41:59.:42:02.

your stories. I guess we all know that sometimes

:42:02.:42:06.

things do happen and it's nobody's fault. But as we have been seeing

:42:06.:42:09.

today, there are plenty of situations where, in truth, more

:42:10.:42:13.

could so easily have been done to make sure that you really did have

:42:13.:42:17.

the full picture before you ever handed over your cash.

:42:17.:42:20.

Because if something has been sold a certain way, it is not

:42:20.:42:22.

unreasonable for you to expect that is what you are going to get. If

:42:22.:42:26.

it's not the case, or for some reason things turn out to be less

:42:26.:42:29.

straight forward than you expected, it really should have been plainged

:42:29.:42:32.

up in advance. Not -- flagged up in advance.

:42:32.:42:36.

And not left for you to find out until it is too late. Keep your

:42:36.:42:39.

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