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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped-off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands by post, email, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
even stopping us on the streets, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
and the message could not be clearer. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Things weren't right, it was costing me time and money, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
and it was like, "Does anybody listen?" | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Unfortunately, I think these companies are more motivated | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
by their share price than they are by actually looking after their customers. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
You've told us, that with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
you need to be sure that every pound you spend is worth it. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
How do I get my money back? Cos I just think I'm entitled to it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
Keep asking the questions, you know, go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
We do get results, I mean that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain, where today we're asking | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
a question that doesn't always produce the answer that it should. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
And that is just how much do the companies to whom | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
we hand over our money really have our best interests at heart? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
Because sometimes it seems they just want to get the job done | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
and move on to the next. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Or they may be in such a hurry for the next payment | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
they make you feel their priority isn't you or giving you | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
the best deal or service, but simply getting hold of your money. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
And that's certainly how it feels to some of the people whose stories we'll hear today. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
They say they're not being listened to - | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
particularly, when things have gone wrong, or there's been a mistake. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
So the question is, are they right? Well, we'll soon find out. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Coming up, how a cupboard's hidden secrets have cost this couple £20,000. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:47 | |
I walked into the cupboard | 0:01:47 | 0:01:48 | |
and as I walked over to the chipboard flooring, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
my foot fell straight through the chipboard. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
And a family that spent almost £900 on a unique memorial... | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
I had my heart ripped out when Danielle died. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
It's so important for me to get to the bottom of- of all of this. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
If you're lucky enough to have a guarantee | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
for work that's been done on your home, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
you'd think it would be obvious what it entitles you to. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
But that's not always the case. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Sometimes, the guarantee you've pinned your hopes on | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
is no longer worth the paper it's written on. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
# I could have danced all night | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
# I could have danced all night. # | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
When amateur singer Adrienne Guthrie was looking for a new place | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
to live last year, Wetherby in Yorkshire seemed the obvious choice. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
The previous winter | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
I had been quite isolated following an accident in York. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
And so I looked for a property near friends | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
and because most of the activities I'm involved in, ladies' choir | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and one or two other activities, are in Wetherby. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Adrienne had no trouble finding her ideal home. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
She was sent a stack of paperwork to go with the purchase, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
and amongst it was some very good news...or so she thought. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
I saw that there was a guarantee for the double glazing | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
for a ten year period. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Double glazing had been installed less than two years earlier. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
So with eight years left on the guarantee for all her windows | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and doors, Adrienne was delighted. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Especially as it soon became clear that her double glazing | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
wasn't keeping the house as warm as she'd expected. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
I hadn't been in the house very long when I realised the kitchen was cold | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
and as the cold weather came it was like being in an icebox in there. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
Adrienne traced the problem to the kitchen door | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
which didn't seem to have been fitted properly. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
But she was reassured by the fact she had that ten year guarantee. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I wasn't unduly worried, I thought that the double glazing | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
would be covered under the guarantee | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and it would just be repaired from that. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
So Adrienne contacted the company who'd issued the guarantee, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Orion Windows Limited, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
and got a nasty surprise. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
They told her the guarantee was no good to her | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
because it was only valid for the customer who'd installed the glazing. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
In other words, the house's previous owner. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I just couldn't believe it. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
And I spoke to loads of people, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
both people that I meet on a day to day basis | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
and people in the building trade, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
and nobody could understand why the guarantee wasn't transferrable | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
from one owner to the next and why it didn't stay with the house. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
And to make matters worse, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
just a few weeks after hearing her guarantee wasn't valid, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
there was another problem with Adrienne's double glazing. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
I suddenly heard three loud cracks. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
And when I went into the back bedroom, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
the window had cracked from top to bottom. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
It was very cold outside and I'm assuming it was because of the cold. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
So with two double glazing problems in just two months, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
you can see why Adrienne was annoyed at the prospect of shelling out | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
for repairs that - because she had that guarantee - | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
she believed should be done for free. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
I don't understand why the guarantee doesn't transfer from owner to owner. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
It's just ridiculous the way it's just null and void. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
If the previous owner still lived here | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
they would be able to claim on it. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
In fact, double glazing suppliers aren't under any obligation | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
to supply transferable guarantees - | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
unless that is, they're members of the industry trade body, the Glass and Glazing Federation. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
In that case, they ARE supposed to honour guarantees | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
if the house changes hands. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
And funnily enough, Orion Windows IS a member. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
So we asked them why they've refused to follow | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
the Glass and Glazing Federation's guidelines, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
which would mean they'd transfer the guarantee to Adrienne AND carry out the necessary repairs. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
And when we did, there was an about-turn! | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
They told us although no problems had previously been identified | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
with the glazing, they'll be making an appointment | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
with Adrienne to assess what works need doing. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
And crucially, they WILL now be transferring the unexpired portion | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
of their guarantee to her. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
We also spoke to the Glass and Glazing Federation, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
who reiterated that it's a mandatory requirement for ALL their members | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
to provide transferrable guarantees. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
But it seems Orion Windows Limited may not be the only company | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
that hasn't always stuck to the guidelines. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
We contacted the 20 Glass and Glazing Federation members | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
closest to where Adrienne lives to see if they offered transferrable guarantees. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
And four of them said they didn't. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
We've passed that information on to the Federation, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
who've said they'll be reminding all their members of their obligations on this. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
Meanwhile, Adrienne's delighted her situation is now resolved. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
It will make things a lot easier for me, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
but I think people should remember that they need to pay attention | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
to all the terms and conditions | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
and make sure that they understand the legal aspects of these things. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
If you want to check if your windows | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
are covered by a transferrable guarantee | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
or whether you might end up in the same situation as Adrienne, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
then there are details on what to do on our website: | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Well, I'm sure that, over the last year, most of us would have liked | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
to have seen a lot less rain, but if you've got a leaky roof | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
then you'll have found it particularly frustrating. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Peter Dobson certainly has, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
and when you hear what it is that's caused his roof to leak, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
you'll understand just why he's so annoyed. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
When Peter Dobson retired at the end of last year, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
he decided to make some additions to the family home in Northumberland. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
And top of the list was a traditional wood-burning stove. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
It's great when it's on - it's warm, it creates a friendly look, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
Plus, of course, it keeps the bills down. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
It reminds me of my childhood | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
when my grandmother had one of these open stove things | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
and she used to boil water on it and stuff like that, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and I often look at it and it kind of pulls you back to that time. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Peter was thrilled to find what he was looking for | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
with a company called Border Stoves. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
They told him that it would cost £795 for the stove, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
which their sister company Border Services | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
could fit for a further £1,650. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
I have to confess, when I got that quote I took a step back | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
and thought maybe this isn't, you know, a good thing to do | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
but we'd kind of built up to it | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
and thought "OK, it's a one-off. We'll kind of do it." | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
So Border Services came to install the stove, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
and making, it seemed, the necessary adjustments to the roof, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
which involved cutting a hole in it for the flue. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
And at first, Peter was delighted with what he'd bought. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
The stove's functioned very well. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
It's done exactly as supposed to, it looks good, it's very easy to light. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
But then, when there was the next heavy rain, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Peter got a rather soggy surprise. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Water was streaming through the ceiling into his house. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
The water coming in became a major issue | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
because the plasterboard on the ceiling got really wet. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
It was leaking so far away from the chimney itself, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
the fire wasn't drying it out. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Peter immediately got back in touch with the company, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
and, after several unreturned calls, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
they finally came back to have a look. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
As Peter suspected, the problem turned out to be related | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
to the hole in the roof that they'd made for the flue. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
He said he could temporarily sort it out | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
and hopefully, bring the major leaks to a halt and he started to do that. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
After he'd finished the job he then said, "Really, it's temporary." | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
He informed me that the stuff used should've been on a slate roof | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
and ours is tiled, so it's really the wrong bit of equipment. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
It seems that when Border Services had cut the hole in the roof, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
they hadn't sealed it properly leaving big gaps | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
that were letting in the rain water. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
And the repair did indeed prove to be just a temporary fix. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
Because the next time it rained, water came through AGAIN. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
It rained heavily through the night, and when I got up in the morning | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
the side of the stove was stained where the water had run down. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
There was water on the laminate floor | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
and it was a right big mop-up session first thing in the morning. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Border Services came back again...and then AGAIN... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
to try and sort things out. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
But each time they came they failed to put the problem right. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
So with water STILL pouring through the ceiling, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
and no permanent solution from the company responsible, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Peter called in a roofing expert to see what he thought. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
He just said... | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
It's just one of the worst jobs he'd ever seen. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I then got up on the wall to have a look | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and he pointed out really why it was leaking. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
There was a gap between the tiles that you could fit your hand into. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
You can see from Peter's photos just how big that gap was. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
And though it has now been rectified, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
when we sent local surveyor Steve Vogel to examine Peter's roof, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
it was clear that the hole wasn't the only problem. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
I can also see what appears to be silicone sealants underneath | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
the tile, and that has possibly been applied to keep a loose tile | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
in place and that's just completely inappropriate. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
It shouldn't be necessary when the tiles are correctly fitted | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
and there certainly shouldn't be gaps between the tiles. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
When Steve then had a look inside the house there was more bad news. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
He noticed that the stove was too close to the skirting board, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
which made Peter nervous. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Is that dangerous, then? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
Potentially, yes, because these stoves do get very hot | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and with it being that close, there is the risk of that | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
actually burning at some stage. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-Which is why combustible materials all have a minimum -distance | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
that they should be kept away from the stove itself. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
So it's just getting more expensive all the time, isn't it? | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
-Unfortunately, yes. -OK. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
On top of the £2,500 that he's already paid for the stove, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
Peter is now looking at having to stump up an additional £600 | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
for repairing the roof and shifting the stove. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
So he's written to the company asking them to pay. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
But they refused to accept that it could be their fault. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
I felt I'd proved it categorically having sent them photographs. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
They were self-evident, you could see clearly | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
that there were holes in the roof. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
You could see daylight from the whole of the living room as you looked up towards the roof. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
Peter says the company even suggested the leak | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
could have been there already, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
and was therefore nothing to do with them. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And when his next letter to them brought no joy, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
that's when he wrote to us. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
The two companies who sold and installed the stove | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
are run by the same man. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
When we contacted him, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
he disputed some of the details that Peter had told us. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
He said he hadn't replied to the initial calls | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
because he was on holiday, and disagrees that he used | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
the wrong materials, or installed the stove too close to the skirting. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
He says poor weather hampered the work he did, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
both when the stove was installed, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
and on the first occasion that he attempted to put things right. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
And he stresses he HAS offered to resolve the situation, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
and recommended a firm of builders to do the job. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
But Peter has now lost so much confidence in the company | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
that he'd rather get the job sorted using builders of his own choice. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
All he wants from Border Stoves is his money back. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
Meanwhile, there's been an awful lot of rain this year, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
and an awful lot of it has come through Peter's roof. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
So he just wants things sorted. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
If Border Stoves came back | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
and refunded what I'd actually spent on having them install it, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
I would then take the view that the matter's closed. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
It would be the end of four... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
well, nearly five months now of complete aggravation. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
Now there's always plenty to worry about if you're buying a new home, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
which is why you hope that the survey | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
will flag up any serious problems before it's too late. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
In Scotland, survey information is provided | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
to ALL prospective buyers from the off. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
But unfortunately - that DOESN'T necessarily mean | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
you're safe from nasty surprises later on, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
as this next couple found out. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
The Island of Lewis, largest of the Western Isles of Scotland | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
and home to Norrie and Marina MacDonald, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
who last year moved from a small flat to this much bigger house. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
It just ticked all the boxes for us. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
The location was perfect, the size was perfect, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-and also it was affordable to us which was very important. -Yeah. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
When Norrie and Marina first came to view the property, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
like all Scottish homebuyers, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
they were given what's called a homebuyer's report, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
prepared for them by the seller. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Introduced in 2008, it's a bit like the Home Information Packs | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
that were briefly available in the rest of the UK. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
And one of the key parts of it is a survey of the house's condition, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
highlighting repairs that may be required. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
The house was empty for over a year. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Now, we came out and we viewed the house with my parents | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
and my mother, especially my mother. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
She noticed...a particularly strong smell of dampness | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
coming from just the ground floor area of the house. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
I thought, "Right, the home report will tell us if there's anything wrong. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
"If there's something wrong, we pull out." | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
What they didn't yet realise | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
was that the survey in their homebuyer's report | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
was what's known as a single survey, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
which means it isn't a full structural survey | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
and won't necessarily pick up every problem with the house. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
But with no idea of that at the time, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
when Norrie and Marina got the report, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
everything they read made them feel completely reassured. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
The home report stated that everything was a Category One, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
which meant that there was no immediate attention required for anything. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
We paid particular attention to the dampness section, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
which talks about dry rot, wet rot, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
and there was nothing other than annual routine maintenance. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
As all seemed well, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
Norrie and Marina went ahead and bought the house. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
But just a few days after moving in, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
they realised something wasn't right in a cupboard downstairs. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
I walked into the cupboard | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
and I noticed particularly bad discolouring to plasterboard. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:17 | |
So on walking over to the back wall, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
I touched the plasterboard and it kind of felt damp. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I then noticed about a two-foot square of dampness | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
on the chipboard flooring. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
As I walked over to the chipboard flooring, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
my foot fell straight through the chipboard. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Norrie shouted, "I think you'd better come and see this, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
"I've found a problem." | 0:17:35 | 0:17:36 | |
But at that time we didn't think it was anything serious. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
But they were wrong. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
When the MacDonalds called in a surveyor to take a look, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
he found that because the back of the house | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
is built almost into the hillside, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
water was seeping through the earth | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and hitting the back wall, making the flooring space completely damp. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
And since the house is of timber frame construction, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
the wall plate and all the uprights were rotten beyond repair. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
When we found out how serious the problem was, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-I think we both absolutely felt gutted... -Gutted. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-..Absolutely gutted. -Yeah. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:10 | |
We didn't know what to do, we just... This was... | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
We had put all our money into this property. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
It was just, it was devastating. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
The damp was such a major problem, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
the MacDonalds couldn't see how the homebuyer's report | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
had failed to spot it. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
We thought that was something that quite clearly should have been picked up on. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
We just relied on that report so much. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
We trusted it, we believed in it. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
We bought the house on the strength of that home report. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
So Norrie and Marina wrote to the surveyors who'd looked at the house. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
And while waiting for a response, they called in another company | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
to work out how much it would cost to put things right. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
We had a local surveyor come round to evaluate the cost | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
and he put the figure at about £20,000. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
Now, at first we didn't know... How can we possibly afford this? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
-We didn't even believe him... -No, no. -We thought this is... No! | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Look at how rotten it was there. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
But so bad was the water damage, the couple felt they had no choice | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
but to start the repairs. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
They added the £20,000 onto their mortgage, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and got the builders in. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
It wasn't an easy job. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
The work that went on was fairly, fairly extensive. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Due to the access of the house, there's no access up either side. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
So we had to hire in the local crane company | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
to crane two diggers over the top of the house. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
We also had to have all the materials - | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
all the chip, all the drainage materials - | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
all craned over the house, which was... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
It was just, it was hard work. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
In the midst of all that, the original surveyors came back with their response. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
They explained they WEREN'T liable for missing the damp, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
because when doing this type of survey, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
they're not allowed to move things. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
When they'd checked the cupboard | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
where Norrie later fell through the floor, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
they'd found a hoover and a box inside. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
So, as a result, with these in the way, it wasn't checked. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
I think it's just ridiculous | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
that because there's a box and a hoover, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
that a cupboard cannot be checked. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
It's just, it's ridiculous. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Especially I'd say, especially a cupboard | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
-which would show the most vulnerable part of the house... -Exactly. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
..Which is, I would say, three metres under the ground. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
But that IS a limitation of this type of survey, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
which is why when the couple complained | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
to the Ombudsman Services for Property - | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
whose job it is to try to resolve this sort of dispute - | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
they didn't get the result they wanted to hear. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
The ombudsman's report ruled in favour of the surveyor, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
basically because they said that they followed the guidelines. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
We spoke to the surveyor who'd done the MacDonalds' report... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
..And though sympathetic that the family has... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
They've reiterated that a single survey report like this | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
will only include defects which are.. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
They say their report DID make that clear, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and that the problems later identified were... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
We also contacted the Ombudsman Services for Property. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Though sorry the McDonalds had had such a bad experience moving home, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
they confirmed that the survey HAD met | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
the terms of the necessary code of conduct, which... | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
They say when you're getting a survey, it's important to... | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
..If the report indicates that access to an area | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
has not been possible. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
If you proceed to buy a house on this basis, you're... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Their advice is to buy a survey type which will provide you with... | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
..But also ensure that you... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
But the MacDonalds are angry that the document they put their faith in | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
DIDN'T highlight such a major problem. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
All we wanted was the house that was reported in the home report. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
nothing more, nothing less. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
-And we trusted that. -We trusted it, yeah. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Most companies you tell us about haven't set out to rip you off. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
So when you feel that that's what's happened, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
it may be that their terms and conditions | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
just weren't clear enough. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Or when there's been a genuine mistake | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
that they've been slow to put things right. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Whatever the circumstances, you need to know what to do and where to turn. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
So we've put together a free booklet of practical tips and advice. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
You can download it from our website... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
Or to receive a copy in the post, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
send an A5 stamped and self-addressed envelope | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
to the address that we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Still to come... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
Massive repair costs, you've no choice about paying. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
I'm just flabbergasted, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
I wonder what planet people are living on | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
to think that someone | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
living somewhere as poor and deprived as this is | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
would have any kind of money like that. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Now overnight, we turned this empty store | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
into a free consumer advice clinic. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
Our team of experts were on hand to answer your questions | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and advise how best to take your complaints further. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
So you need to get hold of those credit files | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
and check that everything on there are agreements that you recognise. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Kerry, good advice, I think, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
and the way forward seems to be through the council. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
To pay that for a five-day trip to Scotland | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
when frankly, you don't need insurance, is a rip off! | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
Kelly is hoping that Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
can help get her faulty car back on the road. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Six months after having the car, the turbo went. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
I contacted the warranty company | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
who decided that I wasn't covered another warranty, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
so I contacted the garage where I got the car from who said it wasn't their problem. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
So at the moment, I've had to declare the car off the road. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
I'm still paying the finance company monthly for the car. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
I can't drive it, it's not roadworthy. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I can't sell the car, I just can't do nothing with it. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Sylvia, is this a common story that we've heard from Kelly, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
about the pitfalls of buying a second-hand car in this case | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
and finding that everyone's passing the buck when something goes wrong? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
It's always a problem with anything that's second hand, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
cos people think that cos it's second hand | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
you don't have the same rights. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
But the Sale of Goods Act applies | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
no matter whether goods are new or second hand, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
and you need to write to the garage saying that the goods | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
were not of satisfactory quality at the time you bought them from them, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
and you copy that letter to the credit company | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
and say that under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
they also have liability. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
If neither party wants to accept liability, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
then you are going to have to go through the courts | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
and you'll have to sue them to get your money back. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
All weekend, the Rip Off Britain team were offering people | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
some much needed and welcome advice. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
I got some brilliant advice and I've now got an avenue to chase up. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
I was pleased with the advice I was given | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
and I'm going to follow what Sylvia's recommended I should do | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
and watch this space. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Janice and Pat have come to share their gripe | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
about the legal profession | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
with solicitor Gary Rycroft. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Where do I start, Angela? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
Rock on, honey, you're the solicitor. Come on. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
They're convinced they paid well over the odds in solicitors' fees | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
during their recent divorces. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Was there quite a bit of money at stake with these divorces? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Mine went on for four years. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
£61,000 bill. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
£61,000? | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
£61,500. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
In terms of solicitors' fees, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
the problem with divorces | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
is that they can go on and on and on. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
For lots of legal services you can agree a fixed fee at the outset. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
With something like a divorce, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
it lasts as long as you two carry on arguing about the assets. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
At the outset, you ought to have been told what you were in for, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
in terms of the hourly rate that you were going to be paying. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
You should also have been told that from time to time | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
you could ask them what was on the tab, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
and you ought to have had interim bills | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
and an interim statement of what you owed. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Too late to go back and say, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
"We are unhappy, is there anything we can do about the bills?" | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
If you aren't satisfied with the service you've received from your solicitor, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
you should always go through the internal complaints procedure first, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
but if that doesn't work out you can go to the ombudsman. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, we needed you! Where the hell were you? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
Thanks for listening to me and better luck next time. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
Hey, Gary, they'll be no next time, let me tell you! | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Now when a company makes a mistake and lets you down, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
I think most of us are prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
and maybe give them a second chance to sort it all out. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Well, that's what Barbara Watson did. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
She spent hundreds of pounds | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
on something that had a particular significance for her and her family. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
But now, more than a year on, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
all she's had for her money is nothing but delays and excuses. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
Is that Grandad's house? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
Yeah, there's one cow. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
Barbara and Pete Watson live in Cheshire | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
with their sons Jamie and Bobby. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Their daughter Danielle sadly died five years ago. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Danielle was due to be 13 years old... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
and died the day before her birthday. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I'd gone in the bedroom to wake her up | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
and found her dead in bed. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Danielle's post-mortem showed | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
that she died from dead-in-bed syndrome... | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
with Type 1 diabetes as a contributor. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
Danielle was absolutely gorgeous, stunning, lovely heart... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
Oh, so tall compared to me. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
She was everything, everything to me and my husband. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
She's left a big hole. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
The family wanted to find a special way to mark Danielle's memory. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
Danielle absolutely loved bouncy castles. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Anywhere we went, if there was a castle, she was straight on it. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
We decided a bouncy castle would be a brilliant idea | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
for the children to enjoy themselves, and it would always be there, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
it would be in our garden, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
it would have Danielle's name across the top. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
The other two childrens' names down the columns. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Barbara went online and found a company called | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
James's Bouncy Castles UK, advertised on eBay. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
The website looked good, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
the feedback on eBay was brilliant. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
They totally understood why I was doing it. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
They said that they would make a really good job of the artwork, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
considering my circumstances. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
The company told her that as it was a bespoke item, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
she'd have to buy it direct from them rather than through eBay | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
and the total cost would be £885 including delivery. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
When I actually placed the order with James's Bouncy Castles, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
they asked me for at least 50% deposit, if not, full payment. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
I decided to give them £500, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
so that then I had something else to pay when it was ready. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
I pay everybody by bank transfer and so it just seemed easy for me to do. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:49 | |
Barbara was promised the castle would be ready within 12 weeks. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
So when that time was up, she emailed to see if it was finished. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
They emailed me, saying that it was actually ready | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
by the end of the week. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
If I could transfer the balance | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
of £385 into their bank account, then it would be on its way. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
And that's what I did. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
But one month later, the bouncy castle still hadn't turned up. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
So Barbara contacted the company again. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Once more, they promised she would receive it that week. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
But once more, failed to deliver. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
I got an email from James's Bouncy Castles, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
telling me that they'd had some problems inside and outside of work | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
and that was what was causing the delay. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
There was no reason for me to not believe what they were telling me. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
Again, they told me I would have my castle in about a week's time. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
But that didn't happen. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
And it was four months | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
before Barbara was able to chase them up again. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
Unfortunately, my dad died, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
so I was busy sorting out my dad's funeral and things like that. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
I then contacted them again | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
and this time, I wanted to know the truth. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
I wanted to know if the business was suffering financially | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
and if so, I just wanted them to be honest with me. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
The company assured Barbara it would only be another week or so | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
until she received the castle. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
So when that proved to be yet another empty promise, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
Barbara gave them a call. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
I was actually told that the castle was ready | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
and that they were arranging to have it sent to me the following week. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Barbara took time off work on the day she was told | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
the castle would finally be delivered. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
It never came and then I received an email later in the day, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
telling me that the person that was making the castle | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
had actually been rushed into hospital. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
At that point, I was really beginning to doubt | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
everything that they told me. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
I felt a fool. I didn't think that anyone | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
could've done this to anybody. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Desperately hoping her suspicions were wrong, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Barbara tried one last tact. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
I discussed things with my husband. I said, "If this castle is ready, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
"what's to stop us going to pick it up ourselves?" He agreed. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
I emailed them again and I said, you know, distance wasn't an object, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
I could get a truck and I could come down and pick it up. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
And after I informed them that I wanted to pick it up, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I heard nothing more. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Well, it's now over a year since she placed her order. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Yet despite having paid in full and repeatedly being told | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
that it's about to be delivered, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
she still has nothing to show for her money. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
So we contacted James's Bouncy Castles UK to find out why. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
They told us that the company has had to cease trading | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
because of financial difficulties. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
They claim they were scammed out of money by a customer in Uganda | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
and they're still struggling with the effects of that. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
They insist that there was no intention to rip customers off, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
but accept that they should have been more truthful with Barbara, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
rather than, as they did, telling her everything was OK. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
They apologise for the upset caused, but insist the castle is finished | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
and have sent this photo to prove it. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
But Barbara remains unimpressed. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
And putting aside whether the final result | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
is really worth the £885 she paid, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
why did it take so long and why did it take us getting involved | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
for the company to provide a straight-forward answer? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
It's the way that she's been treated that frustrates Barbara the most | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
and now she'd much rather that the company simply donate the money | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
to a diabetes charity. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:41 | |
The castle was a memorial for my daughter, Danielle. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
It was for the children to play on | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
and remember her and have fun. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I had my heart ripped out when Danielle died... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
..and it's so important for me to get to the bottom of all of this. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
After everything that Barbara and her family have been through, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
I'm sure you'll agree, this was the last thing they needed. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
There are of course ways to protect yourself from losing money | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
when you're making a purchase | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
and here's some advice on exactly how to do just that. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
The best way to pay for anything online or not is by credit card. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
If it's more than £100 up to £30,000, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
though that won't affect most of us, you are protected | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
not only by your rights against the retailer, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
but if you can't enforce those rights, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
then the credit card provider has an equal liability to you. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
Even under £100, you get very similar protection | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
from what is called chargeback. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
It's not got the force of law, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
but you will normally get your money back even under £100 | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
and that also applies to debit card payments. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
So if you want to be protected, pay by plastic. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
If you buy something online, or indeed by mail order | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
or over the telephone, you are protected | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
by what are called the Distance Selling Regulations. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
They say that even after you have made the order | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
and up to seven days after you have received the goods, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
you can just change your mind. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
You can send them back and you have to be refunded. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
If the goods simply don't arrive within a reasonable period, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
then the seller has to refund you. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
It's no good them trying to blame the post office | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
or the delivery company. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
It's the seller's responsibility to refund you | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
the whole cost of those goods. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Now, when you're getting someone to come and do work on your home, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
we all know the best advice. It's to get a few quotes | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
so you can decide which one is the best value for money. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
But what if it's someone else, for example the council, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
who's decided that the work needs to be done | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
but it's you who's got to foot the bill? | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
Will they also have gone for the best value quote? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
A home that you own. That was the promise | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
of the Conservative government back in 1980, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
when Margaret Thatcher introduced the Right to Buy scheme. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
It is my great pleasure to hand that over to you | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
as a little token of the occasion. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
It meant council tenants who'd always rented | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
were finally given the chance to own their flat or house. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Since the scheme was introduced, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
almost two million homes have been sold. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Karen Greenhalgh's flat in Sheffield is one of them. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
She bought it three years ago | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
and set about making it a home she could be proud of. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
It was a dream come true | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
when I was able to buy my house. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
I know it's only a council maisonette, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
but for me it was everything. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
You know, it's the place I've called home | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
and tried to make homely. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
As is normal in this kind of situation, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
although Karen has bought her flat, Sheffield City Council | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
can still dictate if any work is needed | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
on the exterior of the building. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
And in 2010, plans were approved for the local council to add cladding | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
to the outside of her block. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Not simply to improve the aesthetics, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
but to make it more energy efficient | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
and extend the sustainability of the buildings for the next 25 years. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
I partly understand why the council has done this. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Our people on our estate | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
do need something that's warmer | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and more insulated. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
But improvements like that just simply don't come cheap. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
And now that she owned her flat, Karen would have to pay her share. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
But she was horrified to hear how much that would be. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
Because when the council wrote to her after getting a quote, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
they said that her portion of the bill would be £10,000. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
I had been expecting a bill, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
but actually seeing that amount in writing | 0:37:58 | 0:38:04 | |
suddenly made it all seem more real. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
I'd been trying to push it to the back of my mind | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
and I was thinking "Oh no!" You know? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
"Surely, this won't be true, surely, it won't be true" | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
And although Karen's lease does make clear she should pay | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
a reasonable part of the costs of improvements, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
she'd never, ever expected it would be this high. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
I'm just flabbergasted. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
I wonder what planet people are living on | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
to think that someone living somewhere | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
as poor and deprived as this | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
would have any kind of money like that. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
The Council does offer a range of loans to pay for the cladding, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
but they all have interest rates of nearly 6% APR. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
And one of the things that frustrates Karen | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
is that however she pays, she's had no choice about what work is done, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
when it will happen or even who does it. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
It's the way we've been trammelled and told, "You will have it. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
"Oh, you've signed a lease. There's nothing you can do." | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
It's almost standard for homeowners | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
who've bought under the Right to Buy scheme | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
to be billed for major works or improvements carried out. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
But do councils always get the most cost-effective quote for the job? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
In this case, there are local firms who claim | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
they could do the cladding on Karen's block much more cheaply. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
But when we spoke to Sheffield Homes, the organisation | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
that manages council housing on behalf of the council, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
they said, "These works, as well as being essential, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
"provide value for money." | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
They recognise that the cost of necessary works can be high, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
but say that the bills leaseholders face are low | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
when compared nationally with other councils conducting similar works. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
Sheffield Homes told us the original quote - | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
the result of a competitive, Europe-wide tender - | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
was a good deal higher than the current estimate, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
and the savings from bringing it down have been passed on | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
to leaseholders, whom they stress have been closely consulted | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
and involved at every stage of the process. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
They point out that where the work has been completed, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
residents are already seeing lower fuel and service charges | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
and are likely to benefit from increased property values. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
But they've developed a range of options | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
for those vulnerable leaseholders who are likely to have difficulty | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
in paying their share of the costs. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
But this is a situation echoed on estates | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
right across the country, where right to buy leaseholders | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
faced with big bills for major works want reassurance | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
the costs are fair and the council has got them the best deal. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
It's ruined and spoiled so much. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
it's just a financial disaster. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
I'm looking at losing my home because I can't afford | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
a £10,000 bill on top of my mortgage. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
I just... I can't. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
more of your stories. Confused over your bills? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
Trying to wade your way through never ending small print? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
You should read it, but it's not in plain English. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
It should be simple, you know? ABC, very basic stuff. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
You get home and you get your bill and it's like £70 | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
when it's meant to be £35, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
and basically you get ripped off, don't you? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
and want to share the mistakes you made with us, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
so that other people don't do the same thing. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
We paid them good money to act in our best interest. They didn't. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Or you can send us an email. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Don't forget, the Rip Off team is ready and waiting | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
to investigate your stories. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
Well, that's where we have to leave it for today. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
But don't forget, we're always here to try and move things on | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
if you feel that you're not getting anywhere with a complaint. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
So do keep your stories coming in, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
and we'll do our very best to look into as many of them as we can. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Cos when you've got a problem, it's not always easy knowing | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
what to do next or where to turn for help, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
so you'll also find plenty of information on our website. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
The address, as I'm sure you'll know by now, is... | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
And we'll see you again next time, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
when we'll have even more advice on how to prevent even more of you | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
from feeling ripped off. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
Until then, many thanks for every one of the emails | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
and the letters that you send us. And from all of the team, goodbye. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
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