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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off. And | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
you contacted us in your thousands. By post, e-mail, even stopping us | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
on the streets. And the message couldn't be clearer. I think there | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
is a lot of hidden information about your bills that should be | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
made a lot more clear. I don't feel I get treated how I should be. | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
have told us with money tighter than ever, you need to be sure that | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
every pound you spend is worth it. How do I get my money back. I think | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
I'm entitled. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, a simple | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
mistake, or a catch in the small print, we will find out why it is | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
you are out of pocket, and what you can do about it. Keep asking the | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
questions, go to the top if you have to. We do get results. | :01:15. | :01:22. | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain. Welcome to Rip Off | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
Britain, the programme that gets you answers, when you feel you have | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
lost out or had had a raw deal. the end, when things go wrong, it | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
is how companies put them right that can make all the difference. | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
But they don't always do that the way that you might have hoped. | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
Perhaps they take a bit longer to sort it out than you would have | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
expected. Or maybe they didn't actually explain things as clearly | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
as they could have done in the first place. But you know, either | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
way, good customer service shouldn't end when you have handed | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
over your good money. Or signed on the dotted line. When you have | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
given a company hundreds of pounds worth of business, wouldn't you | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
hope that service was all part of the deal. You would like to think | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
so. But some of the people we will hear from today would say that, | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
most definitely, was not the case. On today's programme, the big-name | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
store, whose service and sofas didn't leave this customer sitting | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
comfortably. I have had frames cracking, springs snapping, all the | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
cushion covers ripping, fraying. And a wedding dress disaster. And a | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
battle with the banks to get the money back. I felt quite scared, I | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
was terrified that nothing was going to be ready, that the dress, | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
we have paid this money, and the dress had disappeared, all of a | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
sudden. And more of your problems solved at | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
our Pop-Up Shop. Now, are you sitting comfortably, if so, lucky | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
you. But spare a thought for the people we are about to meet, they | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
have quite a few problems getting comfy on their sof as if. Despite | :02:56. | :03:03. | |
the -- sofas. Despite the fact that they were bought new from the store. | :03:03. | :03:10. | |
Months after buying them, they can't restiesy. More value at ScS. | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
Their adverts promise, more, more, more, some ScS customers told us | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
they have had more than enough of the store's customer service. Among | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
them is Ross, a fireman and kick boxer, he has had a catalogue of | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
faults with the two sofas he bought from them. I have had frames | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
cracking, springs snapping, cushion covers ripping and fraying. | :03:36. | :03:43. | |
price he paid for sofas, including insurance and finance, �1,726. And | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
in Norfolk, Donna and her husband Paddy, also feel they have had more | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
than they bargained for. We have been married 27 years, we have | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
never had a new suite, we thought, right, if we are going to get one, | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
we will get a really, really good one. That will last forever. That | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
is what we thought. Wrong. price they paid, including | :04:05. | :04:13. | |
insurance, �3,417. Ross, who lives in Sheffield, took | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
delivery of his two sofas in March last year. The first sign of | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
trouble was two months later, when the cushions began to fray. | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
don't really expect that from a new sofa, what you spend over �1,000 on. | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
They have been out, fixed it, stitched it up, and said on the | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
manufacturing report, said it is a clear manufacturing fault. Three | :04:35. | :04:42. | |
months after that, another problem sprang up. Literally. September | :04:42. | :04:50. | |
time, the springs were coming off, I ran ScS, they sent the up | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
holsterer out, same person, he took the back off, he said the spring is | :04:55. | :05:01. | |
out, and said it is a clear manufacturing fault. All you can | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
see is the spring has come off, and the force of it has ripped the | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
underneath of the carriage, it is showing clearly there. ScS fixed | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
the fault, but four months later had to come back for the same | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
reason. By now, like the fabric on his cushions, Ross's patience was | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
wearing thin. And it reached breaking point just one month later, | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
when there was yet another problem. After the springs coming off and | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
the cushion cover, one night we were sat watching tele, and all of | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
a sudden I heard the crack and a shaking in the sofa, I got back up | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
and you could see you can push your hand on it, you were going in a | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
good six inches. Back came the upholsterer to find another report, | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
which, again, blamed a manufacturing report. But the very | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
next month, Ross's other sofa began to creak. He now had big problems | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
with both his sofas, leading to another round of inspections and | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
reports, leaving him frustrated and confused. I got the manufacturing | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
reports back and there was an extra page, and an additional | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
upholsterers page, added by the upholsterer, saying we had been | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
clearly jumping on the sofa, there is excessive weight on the sofa, | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
but underneath said it was clearly a manufacturing fault. I don't know | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
why they are trying to contradict their selves, or trying to put | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
blame on me. But then it seemed his troubles were coming to an end. | :06:30. | :06:38. | |
Ross was told that the sofas would be what is called RTMed, returned | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
to manufacturer. I was told by the sales team that it was definitely | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
getting RTMed, and the aftercare team it would happen. Chuffed to | :06:49. | :06:56. | |
bits, thank God it's ended. I got a phone call on Saturday morning, it | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
said it was not. For Ross, that was below the belt. I had enough, I | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
wrote a final letter saying if you don't reply within 14 days I will | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
take you to court. And, as we will see, putting it like that did seem | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
to get things moving. Meanwhile, in Norfolk, Donna and | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
Paddy had a set of recliners from ScS delivered last June, but they | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
don't sitting pretty either. first sofa we had delivered, the | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
manual recliner was perfect, it was lovely, but on the power recliner, | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
when you relined, there was a great big gap down the middle and you | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
could actually see the floor. We complained, they said that was | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
absolutely fine, we said, no it is not. After a lot of arguments, they | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
did agree to replace both as a set. Which they did. But then the | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
replacement set broke. If they were right, they would be lovely. But | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
well, as you can see. If you try to line the back rests up, there, you | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
have got a huge big gap at the front. And obviously if you rush | :08:05. | :08:12. | |
that back, and try to line them up, then the gap appears at the back. | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
Whichever way you do it, it is wrong. The power recliner has a big | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
gap at the back of the two seats. Which doesn't look nice at all. | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
Donna and Paddy say they have had the same difficulties as Ross, | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
getting their problems resolved. Weeks of phone calls and letters, | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
and repeated visits from the upholsterer. He went in and says | :08:35. | :08:41. | |
there is nothing he can do, pulls it around for half an hour, pushes | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
it all in, and takes pictures and goes off again. I thought we were | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
waiting for a report to come through, or the case has been | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
closed, so we then have to say we are still not happy. They said they | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
would send an upholsterer out then, it goes around and around in | :08:58. | :09:05. | |
circles, nothing get done. ScS said the sofas were working within | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
"acceptable tolerances "so they wouldn't repair or replace them. | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
Donna and Paddy say that is completely out of order. They have | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
had our money, they are not interested now. Ross and the | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
Cullens aren't the only people to tell us they have had trouble | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
resolving their problems with ScS, that is right there's | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
# More, more, more We have had 19 year e-mail about | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
the store since January. We contacted ScS, they have apologised | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
for the service Ross and the Cullens have received. Saying they | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
are disappointed they haven't received the level of customer | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
service they would have wished. They have had the sofas inspected | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
again and concluded Donna and Paddy's problems were down to | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
incorrect assembly. They have offered a full refund. Although | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
they say further inspection of Ross's sofas, does suspect product | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
misuse and not a manufacturing report, they have delivered rements | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
for both. They say over the past -- replacements for both. They say | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
over the past two years they have delivered in excess of 250,000 | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
customer orders, and air aim is to provide the best customer | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
performance. But after these cases a full review of the aftersales | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
care is under way. They say of the customers who have given them | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
feedback over the last nine months, 88% rated their experience as very | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
good or excellent. But they are working hard on the areas they can | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
improve. Ross is hoping that finally this is | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
the end of his sofa troubles. Because Rip Off Britain are | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
involved, it is sort. Just have to wait for the sofa, hopefully | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
fingers crossed, there will be no issues with the sofa. Otherwise I | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
will be contacting you again for more help and advice. | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
A subject that we have received a lot of complaints about again this | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
year is the cost of flying. Buying a seat with a budget airline can | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
turn out to be a surprisingly expensive business, what with all | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
the extras on top of the basic fare. But if you need to make any sort of | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
change to your tickets, for example, to the name, the cost can be a lot | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
more than you think. It is fair enough that you should pay some | :11:17. | :11:27. | |
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kind of fee, but in many cases, the charges seem sky high. As devoted | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
rugby fan, the highlight of the year for Mike and his wife, eed dit, | :11:34. | :11:40. | |
was booking tickets to see Scotland play Wales in the Six Nations match. | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
My family are great rugby fan, my son plays since he was six years | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
old. We were looking forward to this year because we were going to | :11:47. | :11:54. | |
do all three-way watch, including the Scotland Wales match in Cardiff. | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
To get to the game from their home in West Lothian, they managed to | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
book tickets on Flybe. We were delighted to find to book direct | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
flights from Edinburgh to Cardiff from Flybe. But not so excited that | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
it was �560 pounds return. We understood the price would be | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
inflated because it was a sporting event. But we were rather surprised | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
it was as much as that. But Mike he is excitement was short lived, not | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
long after making the booking, he was diagnosed with an illness that | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
ruled out travelling to Cardiff. Despite the disappointment, he was | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
determined that someone else in his rugby-loving family should use the | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
tickets. I understood the tickets were non-refundable, but we did | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
have the option to transfer them to another person. So my son, who | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
loves rugby, I decided to transfer the tickets to him. And offer his | :12:50. | :13:00. | |
friend a chance to go with them. Mike knew there was a �160 charge | :13:00. | :13:06. | |
to change the names. When he called Flybe, he he was told he had to | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
stump up a further �200, to cover the price in the seat price since | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
he made his original booking. Unfortunately by then I was | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
committed, I told my son I was doing it for him and he had made | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
arrangements, I was committed, but very angry that we had been charged | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
that amount of money for a simple name change. So, adding those extra | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
charges to what he had initially paid, Mike's total spend on two, | :13:34. | :13:40. | |
supposedly budget flights, had now rocketed to �975. Stunned by the | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
price increase, he asked Flybe to explain exactly what he was being | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
charged for. I was staggered to find the total final bill for the | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
name change, included an upgrade from economy to economy plus, which | :13:52. | :13:58. | |
was something I never asked for. Although economy plus is useful for | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
some passengers, because it means you can change your flight times at | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
no additional cost, Mike says, in this instance, he had no need for | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
it at all. I never had bought economy class, because we knew | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
exactly when we wanted to fly, and when we didn't want to fly, it was | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
no benefit at all to us. I couldn't understand how I couldn't keep the | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
economy seats and was forced to an upgrade into an allocated economy | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
plus seat. So, were there any other benefits of economy plus that might | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
have been useful on this occasion? Well, the free on-line seat | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
reservations and free baggage allowance sounds good, except a | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
close explanation of Flybe's price breakdown revealed they had already | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
charged him separately for both of these, in fact, twice, on the | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
initial booking, and the later flight with the name changes. So, | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
rugby-mad Mike feels he has been left with a pretty big penalty, | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
just for changing the name on his tickets. The price he has paid | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
works out at �2.29 per mile for his flight. For the same price the | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
family could have travelled from Edinburgh to Cardiff and back again, | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
in a chauffeur-driven, luxury car, with a bottle of bubbly thrown in. | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
I was prepared to pay the �160 for changing the names, as stated on | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
the ticket, but to be forced into an upgrade is totally unacceptable. | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
I think I should be refunded that value. But, that's not going to | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
happen. When we contacted Flybe, they told us that there are non- | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
they are a non-refundable airline, that during the reservation process | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
makes it clear to passengers, before they confirm their booking, | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
that there are certain rules and conditions that afly. They say it | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
is clearly stated that you will pay a charge per person per sector, | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
plus any difference between the original fare, and the cost of the | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
new flight at the time of change. They point out that the lowest | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
fares are available early. But, as time passes, they vary, according | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
to supply and demand. And, as Mike made his change only nine days | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
before departure, the only available openings was an economy | :16:07. | :16:14. | |
plus fare. So they are satisfied the charges here were correct. | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
Of course, Flybe aren't the only airline whose charges for a name | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
Chiang Mai be higher than you would think. The UK's airline trade | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
association, BATA, has three other members who will allow name changes | :16:26. | :16:35. | |
on a domestic flight. And all of these, easyJet, jet 2, and BMI baby, | :16:35. | :16:43. | |
all charge a fee. Although BMI Baby, does it free within the first 24 | :16:43. | :16:49. | |
hours. Travel writer, Simon Calder has heard complaints like this | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
before. If you need to change the name on a ticket for a flight, the | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
odds are stacked against you. Very often it is simply uneconomical to | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
do so. You are better off starting again and buying a completely new | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
flight, walking away from the old one. Mike is still unhappy at how | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
much he had to pay for his son to go to the match. On top of all that, | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
the game didn't go well either. With Scotland losing the match, and | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
the sky high prices from Flybe, it was a pretty disastrous weekend all | :17:20. | :17:30. | |
round. The Rip Off Britain team has come | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
to the north-east to open up our very own Pop-Up Shop. It is our | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
opportunity to meet many of you face-to-face, and more importantly, | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
actually solving your consumer problems on the spot. Inside the | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
shop our experts are ready, willing and able to give our consumers with | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
problems all the advice they need. And quite frankly, we can't wait to | :17:50. | :17:56. | |
get started. Teresa's hoping for some much- | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
needed advice about her faulty mobility tricycle, from tradings | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
standards expert with us. You have a lot of paperwork with you, tell | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
us about your problem? I only had it three months and it brokedown, | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
it stopped working and there was no power. It has gone from one thing | :18:13. | :18:19. | |
to another with the company not taking responsibility for it. | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
contract is with the retailer, it is retailer's responsibility to | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
sort the matter out. A lot of retailers will try to pass the | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
responsibility on to the manufacturer or a warranty company, | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
but your contract is with the retailer and the claim is against | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
the retailer. If they refuse to honour your claim, ultimately you | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
have to take them to the small claims cost. Does that cost? It is | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
around about �35. You can get all the forms on-line, and it will be | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
the direct that makes the decision, it will be the court that orders | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
them to pay you the money back. Just because a retailer size you | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
have no -- says you have no rights, doesn't mean you haven't. They | :18:57. | :19:04. | |
don't always know the law. Le Our advice clinic was open for one | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
weekend only, both days we had so many people popping in to see if | :19:09. | :19:16. | |
the experts can help. There are some consumer cases where two minds | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
are better than one. Solicitor Gary has called across money expert | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
James, to get to the bottom of Margaret's finance agreement. | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
seem to have got myself into the contract where the interest rate is | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
so staggering, I was promised 4%, and I have ended up with one that | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
is a lot more than that. I feel as though I have been cheated. What | :19:37. | :19:44. | |
did you sign up to? I signed up to 4% over ten years. It was variable. | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
And that is what I thought I was getting. This consumer credit | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
agreement says the interest rate will be 22.4%. I was a fool, my | :19:53. | :20:00. | |
fault, I shouldn't have signed it? What do you think, James? It is a | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
difficult one, it is obviously quite a way in the past since you | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
were sold this. You still might be able to make a formal complaint to | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
the company, and if you don't get a resolution from them, you could | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
take it on to the Financial Ombudsman Service, the second bit | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
is the issue of evidence. It is always going to help your case if | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
you have documentary evidence to back up what your arguing. I have. | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
Otherwise it is your word against their's, that is always very | :20:27. | :20:35. | |
difficult for an ombudsman or tribal to sort out. -- tribunal to | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
sort out? Thank you for coming. Thank you. | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain, when you have got a fault that | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
keeps coming back, who should pay to put it right. It is another huge | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
chunk of money, I don't feel I should pay anything, but I don't | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
have a choice. Now, a story of wedding woes. A cautionary tale | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
about how even if you buy something on a credit card, you may not | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
necessarily always get the protection that you are expecting | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
when things starting to wrong. Take the case of Alex Huntley, a young | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
bride, who clearly wanted the perfect dress for her big day. But, | :21:15. | :21:25. | |
:21:25. | :21:27. | ||
apparently, that was when things started to fall apart at the seams. | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
The 29th of April, 2011, a day for huge celebrations across the | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
country. But Kate and Wills weren't the only couple tying the knot that | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
day. In New Yorkshire, another wedding was taking place. And | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
mother of the bride, Judith Silva, was delighted her daughter, Alex, | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
had found her own Prince Charming. I was ecstatic, because finally she | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
had found somebody who was wonderful. I was excited and happy | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
to be getting married. And the dress was the most important thing | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
for me. Alex knew exactly what she wanted the dress to look like. In | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
fact, she had come up with the 1950s-inspired design herself. And | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
she was thrilled when ten month before her big day, she found a | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
wedding shop who agreed to make it for her, at a cost of �9 Hunniford. | :22:22. | :22:32. | |
:22:32. | :22:43. | ||
The shop had told us that they were going to make it For us especially | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
and to our he can specktations. Judith, as mother of the bride, | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
paid for the dress with her credit card. Although they found | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
communication with the shop a bit hit and miss, at the first fitting | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
the dress appeared to take shape. But at the second fitting the shop | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
had changed its mind, and they heard it would shortly be closing | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
down. I felt quite scared, I was terrified that nothing was going to | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
be ready. That the dress we have paid this money, and that the dress | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
had disappeared all of a sudden, because the shop had closed down. | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
But, staff at the bridal shop reassured Alex that she need not | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
worry, whatever happened with the shop, they would make sure that the | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
dress would be ready for had her big day. So, bride-to-be Alex paid | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
the final installment of her �475, on her own credit card. But when | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
the finished dress arrived, it didn't looks a if this fairytale | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
would have a happy ending. When I tried the dress on, about six weeks | :23:44. | :23:54. | |
after the actual wedding date, I felt awful, I felt upset. I was | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
sick to the stomach, I was angry, because they hadn't finished the | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
dress. The two of us were in tears, because we just couldn't believe | :24:04. | :24:10. | |
that having paid the amount of money that we had paid we had this | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
dress delivered, there was so many things that were wrong with it. | :24:16. | :24:22. | |
Nothing like what it is supposed to be. It is not right. That is the | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
excess fabric in from there-to- there. It is more than two inches | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
of excess fabric. The stitches are there, I can see without my glasses | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
they are so visible. They are huge stitches. The hook on this side is | :24:35. | :24:41. | |
above the be a brick, it is almost off, it is atrociously stitched on. | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
There is supposed to be self- covered buttons all the way down | :24:45. | :24:52. | |
the zip at the back. There isn't a button anywhere in sight. Itn't the | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
standard they secretary -- it wasn't the standard they expected, | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
and the wedding dress isn't something to compromise. The shop | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
offered to pay for alterations, but with only six weeks to go before | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
the wedding, Alex was reluctant to take any chances, and she wanted | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
her money back. And her mum found a way she thought that would happen. | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
The financial ombudsman, when we contacted them, advised us to go | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
down the road and to contact the visa companies. They gave us a | :25:21. | :25:28. | |
website to look on for the section 75 Consumer Credit Act. If you buy | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
goods priced between �100-�30,000, under section 75 of the Consumer | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
Credit Act, a credit card company can be held jointly responsible | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
with the sell, if what you have bought is unsatisfactory. So, even | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
if the retailer goes out of business, you can still make a | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
claim to your credit company for a refund. Relieved that it seemed | :25:48. | :25:54. | |
that they could get their �900 back, Alex and Judith both contacted | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
their credit card companies. credit card company, NatWest | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
credited me with the �475 that I paid for the dress. A good result | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
for Alex. But they were still down the �425 that her mother had paid. | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
And Judith's credit card company, MBNA, said it wasn't up to them to | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
pay it. They told her, that as the order had been made in Alex's name, | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
it was therefore Alex's bank, NatWest, that was responsible for | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
refunding the full amount. I was told that they were not going to | :26:28. | :26:35. | |
pay out, that they didn't feel that I had a claim, that I should claim | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
on Alexandra's NatWest card. Judith contacted NatWest, but | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
confusingly, they insisted that MBNA were equally liable, and | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
should pay their side of the bill. Leaving Alex and Judith completely | :26:50. | :26:56. | |
baffled as to who should be refunding the remaining �425. | :26:56. | :27:05. | |
at this moment in time I am still not any wiser as to who is liable. | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
I find it very confusing as we have been through the situation, and one | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
company is batting against the other. Getting nowhere, Alex and | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
Judith came to us. And when we contacted the banks, we were able | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
to get the whole mess resolved. It turns out that it was NatWest who | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
were liable to pay the whole �900, due to the fact that the the order | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
had been placed by their customer, Alex. So they have apologised, | :27:34. | :27:40. | |
refunded the money, and say they hope this resolves any confusion. | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
But perhaps at the root of that confusion, is a little known | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
benefit you get while paying with a credit card. According to the | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, even if you only pay a small | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
part of the purchase price on your credit card, as little as a pound, | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
if your goods don't arrive or aren't fit for purpose, the credit | :27:59. | :28:05. | |
card company is still liable to refund the full amount. So, your | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
plastic can give you more protection than you might realise. | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
Meanwhile, getting their money back, isn't the only good result for Alex. | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
Though she didn't have the dress that she had planned for her big | :28:17. | :28:22. | |
day, she did find a perfect replacement. I found the fairytale | :28:22. | :28:29. | |
wedding dress within six weeks, and it was hard work, it was very nerve | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
racking, it was stressful, but I was pleased when we finally got | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
something and I could walk down the aisle. To see the smile on | :28:39. | :28:48. | |
Alexandra's face was something else, it was really special. As Alex and | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
Judith have discovered getting your money back is not always as | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
straight forward as you might have hoped, so if you have ever been | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
unhappy with goods and services that were paid for by credit card, | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
and you are hoping to get a refund, well sillia -- Sylvia Rook from | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
Trading Standards has advice on how to make that happen. When you buy | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
goods on certain sorts of credit, such as a credit card, and the | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
price of a single item is between �100 and �30,000, you are covered | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
by section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. That means that | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
the credit card company is jointly liable with the supplier for any | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
problem you might have with the item. Not all credit agreements are | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
covered. For example, debit cards and pre-payment cards are not | :29:37. | :29:43. | |
covered by section 75. When you buy goods on certain debit cards, the | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
banks may offer something called "charge back", that means you may | :29:47. | :29:51. | |
be able to get a refund on the amount you paid on your debit card. | :29:51. | :29:56. | |
It is not governed by law, it is a voluntary scheme, and you need the | :29:56. | :30:01. | |
details from your bank. For section 75 to apply, there must be a direct | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
link between the credit card company and the supplier of the | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
goods. That means if you buy goods on the Internet, using certain | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
internet payment services you may not be covered. If you have a | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
problem with your credit card company, or other financial | :30:14. | :30:19. | |
institution, and can't reach an agreement, you should contact the | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
Financial Ombudsman Service for advice. We all make mistakes, and | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
big companies are no exception. It is what they do, or don't do, to | :30:28. | :30:32. | |
put those mistakes right, that can leave you feeling ripped off. So | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
you need to know what your rights are, and where to go when you don't | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
think you have been treated fairly. We have put together a new free | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
booklet of practical tips and advice. You can download it from | :30:44. | :30:54. | |
:30:54. | :30:57. | ||
the website. To receive a copy in the post send an a self-address | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
stamped envelope to the address at the end of the programme. Here is | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
someone who feels she is being fobbed off. After buying a car that | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
has repeatedly broken down, each time with exactly the same for the, | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
Debbie bought it as a run around, now as far as she's concerned, it | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
is her getting the run around. Both from the manufacturer and the | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
garage that the car keeps on going back. To the question is, when the | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
same problem is happening time and time again, should it really be | :31:24. | :31:30. | |
Debbie who has to foot the bill. Nearly half of all households in | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
the UK currently own more than one car. And with both parents working | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
and two children to ferry around, Debbie says her family depends on | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
the use of two cars. (brakes screech) Recently they have spent a | :31:43. | :31:50. | |
lot of time managing with just the one. Because the Vauxhall Zaphira | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
that Debbie normally drives has spent a bit of time out of action. | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
Thanks to a problem that started 12009, two years after they bought | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
it -- 2009, two years after they bought it T I was going to collect | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
my daughter, the warning light came on and it broke down, and I phoned | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
the RAC, she was told to return it to the dealership because it was | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
under warranty. The problem with the valve that controls emissions | :32:17. | :32:27. | |
:32:27. | :32:27. | ||
from the engine. As the car was under warantee, it was exchanged by | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
-- repaired by Vauxhall. I was annoyed but it was repaired, so | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
that was the end of the problem. For the next 11-and-a-half months | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
that is how it seemed, Debbie enjoyed care-free motoring | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
until...In 2010 the car broke down again, the warning light came on | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
again, I took it back to the dealership who diagnosed the same | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
fault with the EGR valve. Debbie could no longer rely on the three- | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
year warranty because it had expired, because the second EGR | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
valve failed so quickly, it should have been replaced free of charge. | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
Our Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook, took time out from the Pop-Up | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
Shop to explain. When any part is fixed on a motor vehicle, it is | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
covered by the supply of goods and services act, it should be of | :33:13. | :33:16. | |
satisfactory quality, and remains so for a reasonable period of time. | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
The fact it may not be covered by the warantee, it is covered by | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
legislation. Unfortunately, in Debbie's case, that is not what | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
happened. When she called the garage, who had done the original | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
repair to ask about the next one, she was surprised to find out she | :33:32. | :33:42. | |
would have to pay �979. If I had paid for the previous service, | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
according to them, I would have been covered by the waranty, but | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
because it was under waranty, I didn't have a waranty on it. I | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
didn't agree with it at all, and I asked Vauxhall, they told me the | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
same information. I had to pay the �975 repair bill to get the car | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
back on the road. Sylvia Rook disagrees it is down to Debbie to | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
pay. If the part failed there is clearly a problem with the part or | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
vehicle, either way it is not her responsibility, the garage should | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
have paid to have that repair done. Although happy to be back on the | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
road again, Debbie was furious about having to fork out so much | :34:17. | :34:23. | |
cash. I thought that the �975 was a lot of money to pay, I was | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
concerned that the same fault had occurred within 12 months. I did | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
think it could be a recurrent problem with the car, and that did | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
concern me some what, I lost a little bit of confidence in the car | :34:33. | :34:39. | |
at this point. You can understand why. Because the next year this new | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
replacement valve failed as well. This time the dealership replaced | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
it free of charge, saying that because she had paid for the last | :34:45. | :34:50. | |
valve, it was covered by a parts waranty. Although relieved not to | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
have to shell out again, Debbie couldn't understand why the same | :34:55. | :35:02. | |
part kept failing. But Scott Illman, from the AA, says problems with it | :35:02. | :35:06. | |
can be surprisingly common, across all brands of car. It circulates | :35:06. | :35:12. | |
the gas from the exhaust into the combugs, that refuses the emotion. | :35:12. | :35:18. | |
He get called out for EGR valves more and more, we have doubled our | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
callouts to EGR faults in the last five years. They are blocking and | :35:23. | :35:29. | |
sooting up inside. Diesel is dirtier than petrol and gets dirty | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
inside. Despite that, Debbie's garage suggested she might be the | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
cause of the problem. They suggested that my driving style was, | :35:37. | :35:47. | |
:35:47. | :35:47. | ||
that I drove too economically for the car, and it was sooting the | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
valve up, and I should take it on the motorway every few weeks,off | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
have the time and who is paying for the fuel. The AA aren't convinced | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
it is Debbie driving. It is not the style of driving, it is where they | :36:02. | :36:09. | |
drive their car. The EGR valve needs a fast flow of air over it, | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
motorway driving, and you won't get that urban. Driving a small EGR -- | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
diesel car with an EGR valve will clock up. The car should be fit for | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
purpose, regardless of the journeys you are doing. If it is a car | :36:26. | :36:30. | |
better suited to motorway journeys, that should be advertised at the | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
point of sale. Fast forward to May, you can guess what is coming, for | :36:35. | :36:39. | |
the fourth time Debbie's car broke down in the same way, she had | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
reached the end of the road. I had enough by this point, I took it | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
straight back to the dealership, and I rang Vauxhall and insisted | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
they investigate it further. The car is obviously not fit for | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
purpose. Vauxhall examined the car thoroughly and finally decided that | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
the car needed a new engine. But they have asked Debbie to pay a | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
contribution towards the costs. The dealership of Vauxhall was willing | :37:01. | :37:08. | |
to pay 90%, but have asked Debbie to pay the remaining �391. I have | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
told Vauxhall to go ahead with the replacement engine, and I have said | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
that I will very reluctantly pay the �391. It is another huge chunk | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
of money. I don't feel I should be asked to pay anything really, I | :37:21. | :37:27. | |
don't have a choice. We asked Vauxhall about Debbie's case. They | :37:27. | :37:30. | |
told us the old evidence had no evidence of a manufacturing defect, | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
but outside influences, such as the grade of oil used during servicing, | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
can have a bearing on the reliability of any engine. But | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
there is good news as well. Thoulaul though they feel the | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
contribution -- although they feel the contribution towards the new | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
engine, they feel is fair, they say purely as a gesture of goodwill, | :37:48. | :37:54. | |
they will refund the �979 charge she had to pay for repairs back in | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
2010. We also spoke to the dealership, she has been whack | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
wards and forwards to, who pointed out it wasn't them who sold her the | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
car. They have simply done specific repair work, using the necessary | :38:05. | :38:12. | |
skill and care, and the correct and satisfactory parts. Meanwhile, | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
Debbie, while pleased she will be getting most of her money back, | :38:16. | :38:21. | |
remains very unhappy about the trouble all of this has caused. | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
After all the hassle and constant breakdowns the unreliability of the | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
car and the time it has taken me and the constant phone calls have | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
had, they have been really stressful. I feel I should not be | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
doing this as a customer, where is the element of customer care, then? | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
Often when you have a problem, the key to getting it sorted is knowing | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
your rights. That way you know instabgtly what you are entitled to, | :38:45. | :38:50. | |
and you can -- instantly what you are entitled to, and you can tell | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
when you are being fobbed off. Most of us don't know those rights as | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
well as we should, if we do we are not sure exactly how to use them. | :38:58. | :39:05. | |
That is especially important when the way we spend our money has | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
changed so dramatically. Every year nearly �280 billion spent on the | :39:09. | :39:14. | |
British high street. As a nation, we also spend about �57 billion on- | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
line. That's an average of more than �157 million day, an awful lot | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
of products we are buying without seeing them first. When we don't | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
end up with what we are expecting, many of us are unsure just what to | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
do about it. Do you think as a society we are | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
better informed about our consumer rights and better atam complaining | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
when we think things are not -- better at complaining when we think | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
things are not right? I think a certain section of society, yes, | :39:43. | :39:50. | |
but there are still people who don't know how to or want to. | :39:50. | :39:57. | |
line it is harder to send back. tempted more on-line, it varies | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
from shop-to-shop, the larger stores are good, but the smaller | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
oness more dubious. If you are going on the Internet you think it | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
is cheaper than buying on the store, I don't think I know my rights. | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
if you are buying any sort of product or service, there is one | :40:10. | :40:18. | |
key thing you need to know about. It is called the sale of goods act | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
1979. That gives you the right to a refund or repair, if something you | :40:21. | :40:31. | |
:40:31. | :40:32. | ||
buy is not up to scratch, or breaks down sooner than expected. The | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
problems are with the retailer not the manufacturer, you have fewer | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
rights if it is with a private seller. If a product is faulty, the | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
law says you can reject it in a reasonable matter of time, usually | :40:44. | :40:50. | |
a matter of weeks. Don't worry if a major fault only develops later. | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
Under the Sale of Goods Act, you can make a claim for a serious | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
fault, up to six years later in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
or five years in Scotland. If all else goes wrong, you need to know | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
how to use these rights to fight your corner. We have put together a | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
check list with everything you need to know, and not just on how to | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
complain, but how to do it effectively, you can find it on our | :41:14. | :41:23. | |
website. Here at Rip Off Britain, we are always ready to investigate | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
more of your stories. Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
neverending small print? We should read it, but it is not in plain | :41:32. | :41:39. | |
English, it should be simple, Unsure what to do when you have | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
lost out, and that great deal has ended up costing you money. | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
come home and you get your bill and it is �57 when it is meant to be | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
�30, you get ripped off, don't you. You might have a cautionary tale of | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
your own, and want to share your mistakes with us, so others don't | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
do the same. We paid them good money to act in our best interests. | :42:01. | :42:11. | |
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The team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. As a | :42:30. | :42:32. | |
customer, getting the service you deserve doesn't seem too much to | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
ask, does it? As we have seen, there are some companies who can | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
certainly try a bit harder in that kept | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
Too true, not least because it makes -- in that department. Too | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
true, not least because it makes business sense, if you keep the | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
customer satisfied they will spend more money, leave them frustrated | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
next time they will take their money elsewhere, I know I would. | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
Who can blame them f you experience what you believe is poor customer | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
service, don't be afraid to say so. If that doesn't work, come to us. | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
We will see what we can do to help, we really do get result. That's all | :43:09. | :43:13. |