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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off. And

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you contacted us in your thousands. By post, e-mail, even stopping us

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on the streets. And the message couldn't be clearer. I think there

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is a lot of hidden information about your bills that should be

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made a lot more clear. I don't feel I get treated how I should be.

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have told us with money tighter than ever, you need to be sure that

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every pound you spend is worth it. How do I get my money back. I think

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I'm entitled. Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, a simple

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mistake, or a catch in the small print, we will find out why it is

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you are out of pocket, and what you can do about it. Keep asking the

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questions, go to the top if you have to. We do get results.

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Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain. Welcome to Rip Off

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Britain, the programme that gets you answers, when you feel you have

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lost out or had had a raw deal. the end, when things go wrong, it

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is how companies put them right that can make all the difference.

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But they don't always do that the way that you might have hoped.

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Perhaps they take a bit longer to sort it out than you would have

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expected. Or maybe they didn't actually explain things as clearly

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as they could have done in the first place. But you know, either

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way, good customer service shouldn't end when you have handed

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over your good money. Or signed on the dotted line. When you have

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given a company hundreds of pounds worth of business, wouldn't you

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hope that service was all part of the deal. You would like to think

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so. But some of the people we will hear from today would say that,

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most definitely, was not the case. On today's programme, the big-name

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store, whose service and sofas didn't leave this customer sitting

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comfortably. I have had frames cracking, springs snapping, all the

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cushion covers ripping, fraying. And a wedding dress disaster. And a

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battle with the banks to get the money back. I felt quite scared, I

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was terrified that nothing was going to be ready, that the dress,

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we have paid this money, and the dress had disappeared, all of a

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sudden. And more of your problems solved at

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our Pop-Up Shop. Now, are you sitting comfortably, if so, lucky

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you. But spare a thought for the people we are about to meet, they

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have quite a few problems getting comfy on their sof as if. Despite

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the -- sofas. Despite the fact that they were bought new from the store.

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Months after buying them, they can't restiesy. More value at ScS.

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Their adverts promise, more, more, more, some ScS customers told us

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they have had more than enough of the store's customer service. Among

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them is Ross, a fireman and kick boxer, he has had a catalogue of

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faults with the two sofas he bought from them. I have had frames

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cracking, springs snapping, cushion covers ripping and fraying.

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price he paid for sofas, including insurance and finance, �1,726. And

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in Norfolk, Donna and her husband Paddy, also feel they have had more

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than they bargained for. We have been married 27 years, we have

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never had a new suite, we thought, right, if we are going to get one,

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we will get a really, really good one. That will last forever. That

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is what we thought. Wrong. price they paid, including

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insurance, �3,417. Ross, who lives in Sheffield, took

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delivery of his two sofas in March last year. The first sign of

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trouble was two months later, when the cushions began to fray.

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don't really expect that from a new sofa, what you spend over �1,000 on.

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They have been out, fixed it, stitched it up, and said on the

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manufacturing report, said it is a clear manufacturing fault. Three

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months after that, another problem sprang up. Literally. September

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time, the springs were coming off, I ran ScS, they sent the up

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holsterer out, same person, he took the back off, he said the spring is

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out, and said it is a clear manufacturing fault. All you can

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see is the spring has come off, and the force of it has ripped the

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underneath of the carriage, it is showing clearly there. ScS fixed

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the fault, but four months later had to come back for the same

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reason. By now, like the fabric on his cushions, Ross's patience was

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wearing thin. And it reached breaking point just one month later,

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when there was yet another problem. After the springs coming off and

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the cushion cover, one night we were sat watching tele, and all of

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a sudden I heard the crack and a shaking in the sofa, I got back up

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and you could see you can push your hand on it, you were going in a

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good six inches. Back came the upholsterer to find another report,

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which, again, blamed a manufacturing report. But the very

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next month, Ross's other sofa began to creak. He now had big problems

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with both his sofas, leading to another round of inspections and

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reports, leaving him frustrated and confused. I got the manufacturing

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reports back and there was an extra page, and an additional

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upholsterers page, added by the upholsterer, saying we had been

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clearly jumping on the sofa, there is excessive weight on the sofa,

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but underneath said it was clearly a manufacturing fault. I don't know

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why they are trying to contradict their selves, or trying to put

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blame on me. But then it seemed his troubles were coming to an end.

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Ross was told that the sofas would be what is called RTMed, returned

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to manufacturer. I was told by the sales team that it was definitely

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getting RTMed, and the aftercare team it would happen. Chuffed to

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bits, thank God it's ended. I got a phone call on Saturday morning, it

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said it was not. For Ross, that was below the belt. I had enough, I

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wrote a final letter saying if you don't reply within 14 days I will

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take you to court. And, as we will see, putting it like that did seem

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to get things moving. Meanwhile, in Norfolk, Donna and

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Paddy had a set of recliners from ScS delivered last June, but they

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don't sitting pretty either. first sofa we had delivered, the

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manual recliner was perfect, it was lovely, but on the power recliner,

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when you relined, there was a great big gap down the middle and you

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could actually see the floor. We complained, they said that was

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absolutely fine, we said, no it is not. After a lot of arguments, they

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did agree to replace both as a set. Which they did. But then the

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replacement set broke. If they were right, they would be lovely. But

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well, as you can see. If you try to line the back rests up, there, you

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have got a huge big gap at the front. And obviously if you rush

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that back, and try to line them up, then the gap appears at the back.

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Whichever way you do it, it is wrong. The power recliner has a big

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gap at the back of the two seats. Which doesn't look nice at all.

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Donna and Paddy say they have had the same difficulties as Ross,

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getting their problems resolved. Weeks of phone calls and letters,

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and repeated visits from the upholsterer. He went in and says

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there is nothing he can do, pulls it around for half an hour, pushes

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it all in, and takes pictures and goes off again. I thought we were

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waiting for a report to come through, or the case has been

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closed, so we then have to say we are still not happy. They said they

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would send an upholsterer out then, it goes around and around in

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circles, nothing get done. ScS said the sofas were working within

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"acceptable tolerances "so they wouldn't repair or replace them.

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Donna and Paddy say that is completely out of order. They have

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had our money, they are not interested now. Ross and the

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Cullens aren't the only people to tell us they have had trouble

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resolving their problems with ScS, that is right there's

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# More, more, more We have had 19 year e-mail about

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the store since January. We contacted ScS, they have apologised

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for the service Ross and the Cullens have received. Saying they

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are disappointed they haven't received the level of customer

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service they would have wished. They have had the sofas inspected

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again and concluded Donna and Paddy's problems were down to

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incorrect assembly. They have offered a full refund. Although

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they say further inspection of Ross's sofas, does suspect product

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misuse and not a manufacturing report, they have delivered rements

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for both. They say over the past -- replacements for both. They say

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over the past two years they have delivered in excess of 250,000

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customer orders, and air aim is to provide the best customer

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performance. But after these cases a full review of the aftersales

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care is under way. They say of the customers who have given them

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feedback over the last nine months, 88% rated their experience as very

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good or excellent. But they are working hard on the areas they can

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improve. Ross is hoping that finally this is

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the end of his sofa troubles. Because Rip Off Britain are

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involved, it is sort. Just have to wait for the sofa, hopefully

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fingers crossed, there will be no issues with the sofa. Otherwise I

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will be contacting you again for more help and advice.

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A subject that we have received a lot of complaints about again this

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year is the cost of flying. Buying a seat with a budget airline can

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turn out to be a surprisingly expensive business, what with all

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the extras on top of the basic fare. But if you need to make any sort of

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change to your tickets, for example, to the name, the cost can be a lot

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more than you think. It is fair enough that you should pay some

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kind of fee, but in many cases, the charges seem sky high. As devoted

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rugby fan, the highlight of the year for Mike and his wife, eed dit,

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was booking tickets to see Scotland play Wales in the Six Nations match.

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My family are great rugby fan, my son plays since he was six years

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old. We were looking forward to this year because we were going to

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do all three-way watch, including the Scotland Wales match in Cardiff.

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To get to the game from their home in West Lothian, they managed to

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book tickets on Flybe. We were delighted to find to book direct

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flights from Edinburgh to Cardiff from Flybe. But not so excited that

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it was �560 pounds return. We understood the price would be

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inflated because it was a sporting event. But we were rather surprised

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it was as much as that. But Mike he is excitement was short lived, not

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long after making the booking, he was diagnosed with an illness that

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ruled out travelling to Cardiff. Despite the disappointment, he was

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determined that someone else in his rugby-loving family should use the

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tickets. I understood the tickets were non-refundable, but we did

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have the option to transfer them to another person. So my son, who

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loves rugby, I decided to transfer the tickets to him. And offer his

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friend a chance to go with them. Mike knew there was a �160 charge

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to change the names. When he called Flybe, he he was told he had to

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stump up a further �200, to cover the price in the seat price since

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he made his original booking. Unfortunately by then I was

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committed, I told my son I was doing it for him and he had made

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arrangements, I was committed, but very angry that we had been charged

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that amount of money for a simple name change. So, adding those extra

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charges to what he had initially paid, Mike's total spend on two,

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supposedly budget flights, had now rocketed to �975. Stunned by the

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price increase, he asked Flybe to explain exactly what he was being

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charged for. I was staggered to find the total final bill for the

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name change, included an upgrade from economy to economy plus, which

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was something I never asked for. Although economy plus is useful for

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some passengers, because it means you can change your flight times at

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no additional cost, Mike says, in this instance, he had no need for

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it at all. I never had bought economy class, because we knew

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exactly when we wanted to fly, and when we didn't want to fly, it was

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no benefit at all to us. I couldn't understand how I couldn't keep the

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economy seats and was forced to an upgrade into an allocated economy

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plus seat. So, were there any other benefits of economy plus that might

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have been useful on this occasion? Well, the free on-line seat

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reservations and free baggage allowance sounds good, except a

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close explanation of Flybe's price breakdown revealed they had already

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charged him separately for both of these, in fact, twice, on the

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initial booking, and the later flight with the name changes. So,

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rugby-mad Mike feels he has been left with a pretty big penalty,

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just for changing the name on his tickets. The price he has paid

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works out at �2.29 per mile for his flight. For the same price the

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family could have travelled from Edinburgh to Cardiff and back again,

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in a chauffeur-driven, luxury car, with a bottle of bubbly thrown in.

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I was prepared to pay the �160 for changing the names, as stated on

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the ticket, but to be forced into an upgrade is totally unacceptable.

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I think I should be refunded that value. But, that's not going to

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happen. When we contacted Flybe, they told us that there are non-

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they are a non-refundable airline, that during the reservation process

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makes it clear to passengers, before they confirm their booking,

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that there are certain rules and conditions that afly. They say it

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is clearly stated that you will pay a charge per person per sector,

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plus any difference between the original fare, and the cost of the

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new flight at the time of change. They point out that the lowest

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fares are available early. But, as time passes, they vary, according

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to supply and demand. And, as Mike made his change only nine days

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before departure, the only available openings was an economy

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plus fare. So they are satisfied the charges here were correct.

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Of course, Flybe aren't the only airline whose charges for a name

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Chiang Mai be higher than you would think. The UK's airline trade

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association, BATA, has three other members who will allow name changes

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on a domestic flight. And all of these, easyJet, jet 2, and BMI baby,

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all charge a fee. Although BMI Baby, does it free within the first 24

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hours. Travel writer, Simon Calder has heard complaints like this

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before. If you need to change the name on a ticket for a flight, the

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odds are stacked against you. Very often it is simply uneconomical to

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do so. You are better off starting again and buying a completely new

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flight, walking away from the old one. Mike is still unhappy at how

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much he had to pay for his son to go to the match. On top of all that,

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the game didn't go well either. With Scotland losing the match, and

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the sky high prices from Flybe, it was a pretty disastrous weekend all

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round. The Rip Off Britain team has come

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to the north-east to open up our very own Pop-Up Shop. It is our

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opportunity to meet many of you face-to-face, and more importantly,

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actually solving your consumer problems on the spot. Inside the

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shop our experts are ready, willing and able to give our consumers with

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problems all the advice they need. And quite frankly, we can't wait to

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get started. Teresa's hoping for some much-

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needed advice about her faulty mobility tricycle, from tradings

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standards expert with us. You have a lot of paperwork with you, tell

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us about your problem? I only had it three months and it brokedown,

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it stopped working and there was no power. It has gone from one thing

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to another with the company not taking responsibility for it.

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contract is with the retailer, it is retailer's responsibility to

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sort the matter out. A lot of retailers will try to pass the

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responsibility on to the manufacturer or a warranty company,

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but your contract is with the retailer and the claim is against

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the retailer. If they refuse to honour your claim, ultimately you

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have to take them to the small claims cost. Does that cost? It is

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around about �35. You can get all the forms on-line, and it will be

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the direct that makes the decision, it will be the court that orders

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them to pay you the money back. Just because a retailer size you

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have no -- says you have no rights, doesn't mean you haven't. They

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don't always know the law. Le Our advice clinic was open for one

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weekend only, both days we had so many people popping in to see if

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the experts can help. There are some consumer cases where two minds

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are better than one. Solicitor Gary has called across money expert

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James, to get to the bottom of Margaret's finance agreement.

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seem to have got myself into the contract where the interest rate is

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so staggering, I was promised 4%, and I have ended up with one that

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is a lot more than that. I feel as though I have been cheated. What

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did you sign up to? I signed up to 4% over ten years. It was variable.

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And that is what I thought I was getting. This consumer credit

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agreement says the interest rate will be 22.4%. I was a fool, my

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fault, I shouldn't have signed it? What do you think, James? It is a

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difficult one, it is obviously quite a way in the past since you

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were sold this. You still might be able to make a formal complaint to

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the company, and if you don't get a resolution from them, you could

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take it on to the Financial Ombudsman Service, the second bit

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is the issue of evidence. It is always going to help your case if

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you have documentary evidence to back up what your arguing. I have.

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Otherwise it is your word against their's, that is always very

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difficult for an ombudsman or tribal to sort out. -- tribunal to

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sort out? Thank you for coming. Thank you.

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Still to come on Rip Off Britain, when you have got a fault that

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keeps coming back, who should pay to put it right. It is another huge

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chunk of money, I don't feel I should pay anything, but I don't

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have a choice. Now, a story of wedding woes. A cautionary tale

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about how even if you buy something on a credit card, you may not

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necessarily always get the protection that you are expecting

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when things starting to wrong. Take the case of Alex Huntley, a young

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bride, who clearly wanted the perfect dress for her big day. But,

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apparently, that was when things started to fall apart at the seams.

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The 29th of April, 2011, a day for huge celebrations across the

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country. But Kate and Wills weren't the only couple tying the knot that

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day. In New Yorkshire, another wedding was taking place. And

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mother of the bride, Judith Silva, was delighted her daughter, Alex,

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had found her own Prince Charming. I was ecstatic, because finally she

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had found somebody who was wonderful. I was excited and happy

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to be getting married. And the dress was the most important thing

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for me. Alex knew exactly what she wanted the dress to look like. In

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fact, she had come up with the 1950s-inspired design herself. And

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she was thrilled when ten month before her big day, she found a

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wedding shop who agreed to make it for her, at a cost of �9 Hunniford.

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The shop had told us that they were going to make it For us especially

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and to our he can specktations. Judith, as mother of the bride,

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paid for the dress with her credit card. Although they found

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communication with the shop a bit hit and miss, at the first fitting

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the dress appeared to take shape. But at the second fitting the shop

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had changed its mind, and they heard it would shortly be closing

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down. I felt quite scared, I was terrified that nothing was going to

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be ready. That the dress we have paid this money, and that the dress

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had disappeared all of a sudden, because the shop had closed down.

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But, staff at the bridal shop reassured Alex that she need not

:23:22.:23:25.

worry, whatever happened with the shop, they would make sure that the

:23:25.:23:30.

dress would be ready for had her big day. So, bride-to-be Alex paid

:23:30.:23:36.

the final installment of her �475, on her own credit card. But when

:23:36.:23:40.

the finished dress arrived, it didn't looks a if this fairytale

:23:40.:23:44.

would have a happy ending. When I tried the dress on, about six weeks

:23:44.:23:54.

after the actual wedding date, I felt awful, I felt upset. I was

:23:54.:23:58.

sick to the stomach, I was angry, because they hadn't finished the

:23:58.:24:04.

dress. The two of us were in tears, because we just couldn't believe

:24:04.:24:10.

that having paid the amount of money that we had paid we had this

:24:11.:24:16.

dress delivered, there was so many things that were wrong with it.

:24:16.:24:22.

Nothing like what it is supposed to be. It is not right. That is the

:24:22.:24:27.

excess fabric in from there-to- there. It is more than two inches

:24:27.:24:31.

of excess fabric. The stitches are there, I can see without my glasses

:24:31.:24:35.

they are so visible. They are huge stitches. The hook on this side is

:24:35.:24:41.

above the be a brick, it is almost off, it is atrociously stitched on.

:24:41.:24:45.

There is supposed to be self- covered buttons all the way down

:24:45.:24:52.

the zip at the back. There isn't a button anywhere in sight. Itn't the

:24:52.:24:55.

standard they secretary -- it wasn't the standard they expected,

:24:55.:24:58.

and the wedding dress isn't something to compromise. The shop

:24:58.:25:04.

offered to pay for alterations, but with only six weeks to go before

:25:04.:25:07.

the wedding, Alex was reluctant to take any chances, and she wanted

:25:07.:25:12.

her money back. And her mum found a way she thought that would happen.

:25:13.:25:17.

The financial ombudsman, when we contacted them, advised us to go

:25:17.:25:21.

down the road and to contact the visa companies. They gave us a

:25:21.:25:28.

website to look on for the section 75 Consumer Credit Act. If you buy

:25:28.:25:34.

goods priced between �100-�30,000, under section 75 of the Consumer

:25:35.:25:38.

Credit Act, a credit card company can be held jointly responsible

:25:38.:25:42.

with the sell, if what you have bought is unsatisfactory. So, even

:25:42.:25:45.

if the retailer goes out of business, you can still make a

:25:45.:25:48.

claim to your credit company for a refund. Relieved that it seemed

:25:48.:25:54.

that they could get their �900 back, Alex and Judith both contacted

:25:54.:25:59.

their credit card companies. credit card company, NatWest

:25:59.:26:04.

credited me with the �475 that I paid for the dress. A good result

:26:04.:26:09.

for Alex. But they were still down the �425 that her mother had paid.

:26:09.:26:13.

And Judith's credit card company, MBNA, said it wasn't up to them to

:26:13.:26:18.

pay it. They told her, that as the order had been made in Alex's name,

:26:18.:26:23.

it was therefore Alex's bank, NatWest, that was responsible for

:26:23.:26:28.

refunding the full amount. I was told that they were not going to

:26:28.:26:35.

pay out, that they didn't feel that I had a claim, that I should claim

:26:35.:26:40.

on Alexandra's NatWest card. Judith contacted NatWest, but

:26:40.:26:45.

confusingly, they insisted that MBNA were equally liable, and

:26:45.:26:50.

should pay their side of the bill. Leaving Alex and Judith completely

:26:50.:26:56.

baffled as to who should be refunding the remaining �425.

:26:56.:27:05.

at this moment in time I am still not any wiser as to who is liable.

:27:05.:27:10.

I find it very confusing as we have been through the situation, and one

:27:10.:27:14.

company is batting against the other. Getting nowhere, Alex and

:27:14.:27:19.

Judith came to us. And when we contacted the banks, we were able

:27:19.:27:24.

to get the whole mess resolved. It turns out that it was NatWest who

:27:25.:27:30.

were liable to pay the whole �900, due to the fact that the the order

:27:30.:27:34.

had been placed by their customer, Alex. So they have apologised,

:27:34.:27:40.

refunded the money, and say they hope this resolves any confusion.

:27:40.:27:43.

But perhaps at the root of that confusion, is a little known

:27:43.:27:47.

benefit you get while paying with a credit card. According to the

:27:47.:27:52.

section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, even if you only pay a small

:27:52.:27:56.

part of the purchase price on your credit card, as little as a pound,

:27:56.:27:59.

if your goods don't arrive or aren't fit for purpose, the credit

:27:59.:28:05.

card company is still liable to refund the full amount. So, your

:28:05.:28:10.

plastic can give you more protection than you might realise.

:28:10.:28:14.

Meanwhile, getting their money back, isn't the only good result for Alex.

:28:14.:28:17.

Though she didn't have the dress that she had planned for her big

:28:17.:28:22.

day, she did find a perfect replacement. I found the fairytale

:28:22.:28:29.

wedding dress within six weeks, and it was hard work, it was very nerve

:28:29.:28:34.

racking, it was stressful, but I was pleased when we finally got

:28:34.:28:39.

something and I could walk down the aisle. To see the smile on

:28:39.:28:48.

Alexandra's face was something else, it was really special. As Alex and

:28:48.:28:52.

Judith have discovered getting your money back is not always as

:28:52.:28:55.

straight forward as you might have hoped, so if you have ever been

:28:55.:28:59.

unhappy with goods and services that were paid for by credit card,

:28:59.:29:06.

and you are hoping to get a refund, well sillia -- Sylvia Rook from

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Trading Standards has advice on how to make that happen. When you buy

:29:10.:29:14.

goods on certain sorts of credit, such as a credit card, and the

:29:14.:29:19.

price of a single item is between �100 and �30,000, you are covered

:29:19.:29:23.

by section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. That means that

:29:23.:29:27.

the credit card company is jointly liable with the supplier for any

:29:27.:29:31.

problem you might have with the item. Not all credit agreements are

:29:31.:29:37.

covered. For example, debit cards and pre-payment cards are not

:29:37.:29:43.

covered by section 75. When you buy goods on certain debit cards, the

:29:43.:29:47.

banks may offer something called "charge back", that means you may

:29:47.:29:51.

be able to get a refund on the amount you paid on your debit card.

:29:51.:29:56.

It is not governed by law, it is a voluntary scheme, and you need the

:29:56.:30:01.

details from your bank. For section 75 to apply, there must be a direct

:30:01.:30:03.

link between the credit card company and the supplier of the

:30:04.:30:08.

goods. That means if you buy goods on the Internet, using certain

:30:08.:30:11.

internet payment services you may not be covered. If you have a

:30:11.:30:14.

problem with your credit card company, or other financial

:30:14.:30:19.

institution, and can't reach an agreement, you should contact the

:30:19.:30:24.

Financial Ombudsman Service for advice. We all make mistakes, and

:30:24.:30:28.

big companies are no exception. It is what they do, or don't do, to

:30:28.:30:32.

put those mistakes right, that can leave you feeling ripped off. So

:30:32.:30:35.

you need to know what your rights are, and where to go when you don't

:30:35.:30:40.

think you have been treated fairly. We have put together a new free

:30:40.:30:44.

booklet of practical tips and advice. You can download it from

:30:44.:30:54.
:30:54.:30:57.

the website. To receive a copy in the post send an a self-address

:30:57.:31:00.

stamped envelope to the address at the end of the programme. Here is

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someone who feels she is being fobbed off. After buying a car that

:31:05.:31:09.

has repeatedly broken down, each time with exactly the same for the,

:31:09.:31:13.

Debbie bought it as a run around, now as far as she's concerned, it

:31:13.:31:16.

is her getting the run around. Both from the manufacturer and the

:31:16.:31:20.

garage that the car keeps on going back. To the question is, when the

:31:20.:31:24.

same problem is happening time and time again, should it really be

:31:24.:31:30.

Debbie who has to foot the bill. Nearly half of all households in

:31:30.:31:34.

the UK currently own more than one car. And with both parents working

:31:34.:31:38.

and two children to ferry around, Debbie says her family depends on

:31:38.:31:43.

the use of two cars. (brakes screech) Recently they have spent a

:31:43.:31:50.

lot of time managing with just the one. Because the Vauxhall Zaphira

:31:50.:31:54.

that Debbie normally drives has spent a bit of time out of action.

:31:54.:31:59.

Thanks to a problem that started 12009, two years after they bought

:31:59.:32:03.

it -- 2009, two years after they bought it T I was going to collect

:32:03.:32:08.

my daughter, the warning light came on and it broke down, and I phoned

:32:08.:32:14.

the RAC, she was told to return it to the dealership because it was

:32:14.:32:17.

under warranty. The problem with the valve that controls emissions

:32:17.:32:27.
:32:27.:32:27.

from the engine. As the car was under warantee, it was exchanged by

:32:27.:32:31.

-- repaired by Vauxhall. I was annoyed but it was repaired, so

:32:31.:32:34.

that was the end of the problem. For the next 11-and-a-half months

:32:34.:32:39.

that is how it seemed, Debbie enjoyed care-free motoring

:32:39.:32:43.

until...In 2010 the car broke down again, the warning light came on

:32:43.:32:48.

again, I took it back to the dealership who diagnosed the same

:32:48.:32:53.

fault with the EGR valve. Debbie could no longer rely on the three-

:32:53.:32:57.

year warranty because it had expired, because the second EGR

:32:57.:33:01.

valve failed so quickly, it should have been replaced free of charge.

:33:01.:33:05.

Our Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook, took time out from the Pop-Up

:33:05.:33:09.

Shop to explain. When any part is fixed on a motor vehicle, it is

:33:09.:33:13.

covered by the supply of goods and services act, it should be of

:33:13.:33:16.

satisfactory quality, and remains so for a reasonable period of time.

:33:16.:33:21.

The fact it may not be covered by the warantee, it is covered by

:33:21.:33:25.

legislation. Unfortunately, in Debbie's case, that is not what

:33:25.:33:28.

happened. When she called the garage, who had done the original

:33:28.:33:32.

repair to ask about the next one, she was surprised to find out she

:33:32.:33:42.

would have to pay �979. If I had paid for the previous service,

:33:42.:33:46.

according to them, I would have been covered by the waranty, but

:33:46.:33:49.

because it was under waranty, I didn't have a waranty on it. I

:33:50.:33:54.

didn't agree with it at all, and I asked Vauxhall, they told me the

:33:54.:33:59.

same information. I had to pay the �975 repair bill to get the car

:33:59.:34:04.

back on the road. Sylvia Rook disagrees it is down to Debbie to

:34:04.:34:07.

pay. If the part failed there is clearly a problem with the part or

:34:07.:34:10.

vehicle, either way it is not her responsibility, the garage should

:34:10.:34:14.

have paid to have that repair done. Although happy to be back on the

:34:14.:34:17.

road again, Debbie was furious about having to fork out so much

:34:17.:34:23.

cash. I thought that the �975 was a lot of money to pay, I was

:34:23.:34:27.

concerned that the same fault had occurred within 12 months. I did

:34:27.:34:30.

think it could be a recurrent problem with the car, and that did

:34:30.:34:33.

concern me some what, I lost a little bit of confidence in the car

:34:33.:34:39.

at this point. You can understand why. Because the next year this new

:34:39.:34:42.

replacement valve failed as well. This time the dealership replaced

:34:42.:34:45.

it free of charge, saying that because she had paid for the last

:34:45.:34:50.

valve, it was covered by a parts waranty. Although relieved not to

:34:50.:34:55.

have to shell out again, Debbie couldn't understand why the same

:34:55.:35:02.

part kept failing. But Scott Illman, from the AA, says problems with it

:35:02.:35:06.

can be surprisingly common, across all brands of car. It circulates

:35:06.:35:12.

the gas from the exhaust into the combugs, that refuses the emotion.

:35:12.:35:18.

He get called out for EGR valves more and more, we have doubled our

:35:18.:35:23.

callouts to EGR faults in the last five years. They are blocking and

:35:23.:35:29.

sooting up inside. Diesel is dirtier than petrol and gets dirty

:35:29.:35:32.

inside. Despite that, Debbie's garage suggested she might be the

:35:32.:35:37.

cause of the problem. They suggested that my driving style was,

:35:37.:35:47.
:35:47.:35:47.

that I drove too economically for the car, and it was sooting the

:35:47.:35:52.

valve up, and I should take it on the motorway every few weeks,off

:35:52.:35:57.

have the time and who is paying for the fuel. The AA aren't convinced

:35:57.:36:02.

it is Debbie driving. It is not the style of driving, it is where they

:36:02.:36:09.

drive their car. The EGR valve needs a fast flow of air over it,

:36:09.:36:15.

motorway driving, and you won't get that urban. Driving a small EGR --

:36:16.:36:21.

diesel car with an EGR valve will clock up. The car should be fit for

:36:21.:36:26.

purpose, regardless of the journeys you are doing. If it is a car

:36:26.:36:30.

better suited to motorway journeys, that should be advertised at the

:36:30.:36:35.

point of sale. Fast forward to May, you can guess what is coming, for

:36:35.:36:39.

the fourth time Debbie's car broke down in the same way, she had

:36:39.:36:42.

reached the end of the road. I had enough by this point, I took it

:36:42.:36:46.

straight back to the dealership, and I rang Vauxhall and insisted

:36:46.:36:50.

they investigate it further. The car is obviously not fit for

:36:50.:36:53.

purpose. Vauxhall examined the car thoroughly and finally decided that

:36:53.:36:58.

the car needed a new engine. But they have asked Debbie to pay a

:36:58.:37:01.

contribution towards the costs. The dealership of Vauxhall was willing

:37:01.:37:08.

to pay 90%, but have asked Debbie to pay the remaining �391. I have

:37:08.:37:12.

told Vauxhall to go ahead with the replacement engine, and I have said

:37:13.:37:18.

that I will very reluctantly pay the �391. It is another huge chunk

:37:18.:37:21.

of money. I don't feel I should be asked to pay anything really, I

:37:21.:37:27.

don't have a choice. We asked Vauxhall about Debbie's case. They

:37:27.:37:30.

told us the old evidence had no evidence of a manufacturing defect,

:37:30.:37:34.

but outside influences, such as the grade of oil used during servicing,

:37:34.:37:38.

can have a bearing on the reliability of any engine. But

:37:38.:37:41.

there is good news as well. Thoulaul though they feel the

:37:41.:37:44.

contribution -- although they feel the contribution towards the new

:37:44.:37:48.

engine, they feel is fair, they say purely as a gesture of goodwill,

:37:48.:37:54.

they will refund the �979 charge she had to pay for repairs back in

:37:54.:37:57.

2010. We also spoke to the dealership, she has been whack

:37:57.:38:02.

wards and forwards to, who pointed out it wasn't them who sold her the

:38:02.:38:05.

car. They have simply done specific repair work, using the necessary

:38:05.:38:12.

skill and care, and the correct and satisfactory parts. Meanwhile,

:38:12.:38:16.

Debbie, while pleased she will be getting most of her money back,

:38:16.:38:21.

remains very unhappy about the trouble all of this has caused.

:38:21.:38:24.

After all the hassle and constant breakdowns the unreliability of the

:38:24.:38:29.

car and the time it has taken me and the constant phone calls have

:38:29.:38:32.

had, they have been really stressful. I feel I should not be

:38:32.:38:37.

doing this as a customer, where is the element of customer care, then?

:38:37.:38:41.

Often when you have a problem, the key to getting it sorted is knowing

:38:41.:38:45.

your rights. That way you know instabgtly what you are entitled to,

:38:45.:38:50.

and you can -- instantly what you are entitled to, and you can tell

:38:50.:38:53.

when you are being fobbed off. Most of us don't know those rights as

:38:53.:38:58.

well as we should, if we do we are not sure exactly how to use them.

:38:58.:39:05.

That is especially important when the way we spend our money has

:39:05.:39:09.

changed so dramatically. Every year nearly �280 billion spent on the

:39:09.:39:14.

British high street. As a nation, we also spend about �57 billion on-

:39:14.:39:20.

line. That's an average of more than �157 million day, an awful lot

:39:20.:39:23.

of products we are buying without seeing them first. When we don't

:39:23.:39:27.

end up with what we are expecting, many of us are unsure just what to

:39:27.:39:32.

do about it. Do you think as a society we are

:39:32.:39:36.

better informed about our consumer rights and better atam complaining

:39:36.:39:39.

when we think things are not -- better at complaining when we think

:39:39.:39:43.

things are not right? I think a certain section of society, yes,

:39:43.:39:50.

but there are still people who don't know how to or want to.

:39:50.:39:57.

line it is harder to send back. tempted more on-line, it varies

:39:57.:40:00.

from shop-to-shop, the larger stores are good, but the smaller

:40:00.:40:04.

oness more dubious. If you are going on the Internet you think it

:40:04.:40:07.

is cheaper than buying on the store, I don't think I know my rights.

:40:07.:40:10.

if you are buying any sort of product or service, there is one

:40:10.:40:18.

key thing you need to know about. It is called the sale of goods act

:40:18.:40:21.

1979. That gives you the right to a refund or repair, if something you

:40:21.:40:31.
:40:31.:40:32.

buy is not up to scratch, or breaks down sooner than expected. The

:40:32.:40:36.

problems are with the retailer not the manufacturer, you have fewer

:40:36.:40:41.

rights if it is with a private seller. If a product is faulty, the

:40:41.:40:44.

law says you can reject it in a reasonable matter of time, usually

:40:44.:40:50.

a matter of weeks. Don't worry if a major fault only develops later.

:40:50.:40:53.

Under the Sale of Goods Act, you can make a claim for a serious

:40:53.:40:56.

fault, up to six years later in England, Wales and Northern Ireland,

:40:56.:41:01.

or five years in Scotland. If all else goes wrong, you need to know

:41:01.:41:05.

how to use these rights to fight your corner. We have put together a

:41:05.:41:09.

check list with everything you need to know, and not just on how to

:41:09.:41:14.

complain, but how to do it effectively, you can find it on our

:41:14.:41:23.

website. Here at Rip Off Britain, we are always ready to investigate

:41:23.:41:28.

more of your stories. Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through

:41:28.:41:32.

neverending small print? We should read it, but it is not in plain

:41:32.:41:39.

English, it should be simple, Unsure what to do when you have

:41:39.:41:43.

lost out, and that great deal has ended up costing you money.

:41:43.:41:48.

come home and you get your bill and it is �57 when it is meant to be

:41:48.:41:53.

�30, you get ripped off, don't you. You might have a cautionary tale of

:41:53.:41:56.

your own, and want to share your mistakes with us, so others don't

:41:56.:42:01.

do the same. We paid them good money to act in our best interests.

:42:01.:42:11.
:42:11.:42:30.

The team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. As a

:42:30.:42:32.

customer, getting the service you deserve doesn't seem too much to

:42:33.:42:36.

ask, does it? As we have seen, there are some companies who can

:42:36.:42:40.

certainly try a bit harder in that kept

:42:40.:42:44.

Too true, not least because it makes -- in that department. Too

:42:45.:42:49.

true, not least because it makes business sense, if you keep the

:42:49.:42:53.

customer satisfied they will spend more money, leave them frustrated

:42:53.:42:57.

next time they will take their money elsewhere, I know I would.

:42:57.:43:00.

Who can blame them f you experience what you believe is poor customer

:43:00.:43:05.

service, don't be afraid to say so. If that doesn't work, come to us.

:43:05.:43:09.

We will see what we can do to help, we really do get result. That's all

:43:09.:43:13.

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