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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
by post, email, even stopping us on the street, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
and the message could not be clearer. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
It feels to me that I'm fighting a battle that I can't win. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Costs you a fortune and when you actually get through, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
you get fobbed off. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
You told us that, with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
you need to be sure every pound you spend is worth it. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
We ploughed thousands into it and we had nowhere to turn. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip Off Britain, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
the series that tries to ensure that whenever you spend your money, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
whether it's pounds or pennies, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
you really are getting exactly what you paid for, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
but that's not always the case. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
Sadly not, and today we'll be hearing | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
about situations where things have gone wrong | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
and the repercussions of that have rumbled on for months, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and even years. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
So that, instead of being resolved quickly, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
the initial problem has created all sorts of extra difficulties | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
and, of course, stress. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
Not to mention extra costs. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
There are huge sums of money at stake in these stories, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
and what makes that worse is the fact most of them | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
appear to have begun with some sort of mistake or oversight. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
But, as we're going to see, that does not always mean that | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
putting things right is straightforward. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Coming up on today's show, why this woman says | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
an error by one of Britain's best-known banks | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
cost her over £7,000. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
I'm just disillusioned in the way that they treat people, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
and the way that they accuse you and don't listen. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
The solicitor's mistake that's left this family fighting | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
a £150,000 debt they should never have had to pay. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
The more this case goes on, we realise that we are on our own | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
and nobody else is actually helping us. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
And more invaluable advice from the experts at our pop-up shop. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
Go straight back to the energy company | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
and say that you want this overpayment back, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
cos it's your money. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
Ask for everything up front, in writing, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
before you part with any money. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
Now, when you're deciding whether or not to buy a house, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
the thing that very often clinches it for you is the survey. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
Finding out that there's expensive work that needs doing can be | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
what puts you right off. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
But, equally, being reassured that there's nothing major | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
that's wrong with the building can be what spurs you on | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
to go ahead with the purchase. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
So, what happens if later it turns out that there was something | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
wrong and that the survey missed it? | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Well, in our next case, exactly that situation has | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
resulted in a whopping repair bill for tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
So, who should be the one to pay it? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Sarah Day is turning her passion for dressmaking into a career | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
and it's a job that requires real attention to detail. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
I'm just trying to start it up as a business now. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
I've done a couple of wedding fairs and it's going really well. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Back in 2009, Sarah began looking for a property that she could | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
not only live in but from where eventually | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
she could also run her budding dressmaking business. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
And with the help of mum Catherine, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
she soon found what she thought was the perfect first home in Essex - | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
a reasonably priced Victorian terrace in need of some work. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
At the time we were looking, it was shortly after the financial crash. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
The whole housing market was just in sort of frozen | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
and there was nothing moving. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
And this place had... | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
sadly been repossessed, and it just had a lot of potential. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
Sarah offered £85,000 for the house, which was immediately accepted. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
She arranged a mortgage, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
and set about getting a survey and valuation. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
When we were sorting out the mortgage, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
obviously we had to get a survey done. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
The mortgage company recommended e.surv. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
e.surv are, in their own words, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
"The country's largest provider of residential valuation services | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
"and do more valuations for lenders than any other surveyor in the UK." | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Because the property was quite run down, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
the fact that such an experienced company was going to be | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
carrying out the survey reassured Sarah and her mum. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
We knew there were problems with the house. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Because it's a repossession, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
you never get very good information about it. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
So, the only... | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
The only information you get, really, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
is what you get from the survey. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Indeed, when the report came back, it highlighted that there | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
were areas of work that would require attention. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
And we went through the survey very carefully | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and they had picked up a number of things. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Woodworm and damp... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Damp in the cellar and the gutters... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
The house was in a bit of a mess and... | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
We'd put some money aside to do it, hadn't we? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-And factored that in. -We looked at what needed doing | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and tallied up how much it was going to cost, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
and it was all perfectly doable. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
So, although considerable work was required, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
there was nothing to alarm Sarah or her mum, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and they felt prepared to take it all on, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
so the sale went ahead. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
It was quite exciting. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
I was kind of thinking where I was going to put things. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
I had my eye on the cellar as my work room and... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
it was really good fun. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
After moving in, Sarah and her mum set about tackling the work | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
that e.surv had highlighted as urgent. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
We worked through everything. We sorted out the heating system, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
we sorted out the bathrooms, we sorted out the gutters - | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
all of that. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Once all the main remedial work was completed, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Sarah and her mum decided that they'd look at adding a fourth | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
bedroom by building an extension in the roof space above the kitchen. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It would allow Sarah to move in a lodger | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
and make some money from the rental income. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Until now, there hadn't been any reason for them | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
to think that there was a problem with the roof because the | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
survey certainly hadn't said that it needed urgent attention. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
Indeed, it had said there was no evidence of significant distortion. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
The e.surv survey said of the roof that it was in an average condition, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:21 | |
so on that basis, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
we took it to mean there was nothing majorly wrong with it. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
So, thinking it was going to be a straightforward job, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Sarah asked a builder for a quote, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
but his reaction was not what they were expecting. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
He stuck his head up in the roof and just said, "This is a major job. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
"You need a structural engineer." | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
And he looked quite horrified, actually, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
that people were living in the house with it in that state. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
He really thought, if he went up there, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
there was a chance the whole lot could come down. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
And it seemed that the builder's fears were well-founded. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
The roof was sagging so badly that two dormer windows | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
built into the roof had little support, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
and were on the brink of collapsing into the top floor of the house. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Wooden beams that were vital in supporting the roof | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
were barely attached to each other | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
and, in some cases, not attached at all. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
And most concerning, the property's water tank, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
weighing well over half a ton, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
was balanced on just a few narrow beams, looking very unstable. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
The water tank was a big part of the problem. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
I mean, it was a massive thing. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
And if it had give way, which it could've done, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
there was a bed directly underneath it, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
which one of the lodgers was using, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
and then underneath that - the floor below - was my room. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
And it's quite likely it would've taken out both of those. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
Sarah and her mum got in a structural engineer, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
who confirmed the builder's opinion. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
In fact, he was so concerned, he refused to enter the loft, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
as he feared it would collapse under his weight. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
He was fairly horrified, actually, the look on his face. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
It was just horrendous, the state the roof was in. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
There doesn't seem to have been a lot holding it up... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
besides woodworm holding hands, as far as I can see, in places. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
It was just horrific. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Sarah and Catherine couldn't understand how such significant | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
problems were missed by the surveyor when he'd looked at the roof space. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
You've put your trust in the surveyors to tell you | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
if there are any major problems, and they really let us down. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
They completely missed it. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
It's quite an old building, it's sort of 1880s, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
and old buildings can be wonky, but I didn't think anything of it | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
because the survey said it was all right. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
If the builder could spot that it was in that state just by looking | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
through the loft hatch, then how did they not notice? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
How did the surveyor not notice? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
The shock of finding the roof was in such a state was nothing | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
compared to the cost it would take to put it right. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
The whole roof structure has had to be replaced, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
costing around £25,000. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Add to that professional fees, removal, storage and redecoration, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
and the total cost for fixing this was over £32,000. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
If we'd had the right advice in the survey right at the outset, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
I don't think we would've bought the house. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
We might have tried to reduce our offer by about as much as | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
we believed the works were going to cost. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
I'm not sure that we would have got a mortgage. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
In recognition that Catherine felt she hadn't had the best | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
service from e.surv, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
the company offered a good will payment in full | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
and final settlement, and without admission of any liability. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
But Catherine and Sarah still think that this is much less than | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
they had to spend to fix the roof and make the house safe again. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Once we'd let them know that we had a major problem, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
they came back with an offer but we just couldn't understand where | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
they'd got this figure from. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
And there's absolutely no relationship to the amount | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
that we've had to spend to put right the problems | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
that they failed to identify. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Sarah and Catherine feel they have no choice | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
but to take legal action against the company, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
and it's left them questioning why house-buyers can be left | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
so exposed to risks and such potential financial loss. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
It's a real David and Goliath situation. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
We're just ordinary people with finite resources, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
very limited resources, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
and they're a huge company with massive resources. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
We appointed them to give us professional advice and they failed. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
When we contact e.surv, they said that, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
as the matter is the subject of legal proceedings, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
they're unable to comment on specific aspects of the case. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
But they told us that, as the UK's largest surveying practice, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
they pride themselves on offering the very highest | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
standard of service, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
and that their workforce of more than 380 fully qualified | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
and experienced surveyors is subject to ongoing checks | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
as part of their quality control. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Where concerns are raised, they say they do all they can | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
to resolve things to the customer's satisfaction, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
and they are satisfied that their procedures were | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
followed in this case. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
Meanwhile, for Sarah, what was supposed to be an exciting first | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
step on the property ladder has instead become a huge | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
burden on both her and her mum. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
It's just cleaned out the savings of the whole family, really. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
I expect that...it will have effects on me and Mum for years, really. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:24 | |
The amount of money that we had to spend out on fixing something that we | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
should've been forewarned about. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
And if you have any concerns following a survey that | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
you've had done on your property | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
and you can't resolve it with the company who carried it out, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
then you should contact the Ombudsman Service for property. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
They will investigate your complaint free of charge | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
and decide what action, if any, can be taken to resolve matters. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
We've been on the road again. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
This year, opening up our pop-up shop in Liverpool, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
with a whole team of experts on-hand to offer face-to-face advice | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
to as many of you as we could. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Go straight back to the energy company | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and say that you want this overpayment back, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
because it's your money. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
And we had more people calling in for information | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
and advice than ever before. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Set out what your evidence is, mention the industry benchmark... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Ask for everything in writing, up front, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
before you part with any money. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Our pop-up shop gives us the opportunity of hearing first-hand | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
about situations where you feel you've been ripped off. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
And, here in Liverpool, you've been telling us just that. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
One man who came to see us was Terrence. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
He was hoping that communications expert David McClelland could | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
help him with a problem that he's had trying to end the phone | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
and broadband contract on a house that he no longer lives in. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
I informed them that I'd be moving on the 28th of August. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
The last bill I got, I got the bill on the September, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
which covered the August. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Paid that. It was done by Direct Debit. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Once I paid that, I said, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
"You can cancel that bill because there is no contract." | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
So, verbally, on the telephone with them, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
you said, "I'd like to terminate my contract, please." | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
I'm not renewing the contract cos I'll be moving very shortly. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
But the company didn't cancel the contract | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and carried on sending bills to Terrence's old address, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
which quickly stacked up. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
It's gone on now into several hundreds of pounds... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
..and they've now put bailiffs onto me. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
I've now received a letter with a reduction in the thing. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
-How much? -£242 off. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
It sounds as though, by the fact they've written to you | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
and made you an offer of a reduced bill to your new address, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
that they've acknowledged you've moved house, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
and they've acknowledged that maybe everything hasn't gone | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
quite as it should've done. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
So, they're making you a gesture of good will to a certain extent. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
I wouldn't accept that. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
What I would be doing is I would lodge a formal complaint. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
All telecoms communication providers do have to have an official | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
complaints procedure. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
If they don't respond to that to your satisfaction, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
then there are other places that you can go to. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Now, there are two alternate dispute resolution services | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
for the telecoms communications industry. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
One is called CSAS, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
The other's called Ombudsman Services. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
The guys at Ombudsman Services and CSAS make it very, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
very easy to complain. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
So, there's no - in theory - | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
complicated form-filling to go through. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
They just want to make sure that you're happy with the service | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
you receive from them. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
The official procedures there will mean that it does get looked at | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
properly, and, if you're not happy, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
then there are regulated bodies who will make sure that that | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
-complaint is dealt with satisfactorily. -Fine. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
This year, we weren't just inside our shop. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
We were outside on the streets as well, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
with workshops packed with practical advice to stop you being caught out. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
Morning, all. I'm going to talk to you guys all today a little | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
bit about broadband and how you can save money by switching. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
When you see an item in a shop, they are not offering to sell it to you, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
they are actually inviting you to make an offer to buy. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Our experts went right into the heart of the city | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
to give you top consumer tips. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Whenever you use your credit card to buy something | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
that costs more than £100 and less than £30,000, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
if something goes wrong, you can then go to the credit card company | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
and they are legally obliged to help. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Do you know? I do not think that anybody in Liverpool has | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
an inhibition in their body. They're wonderful. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
And you go out, you give them an opportunity to meet the experts, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
but to participate and join in. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
It has been a real road show in that respect. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
Well, I think the shops haven't sold a thing | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
and they've all been coming to us today, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
so whether they'll like Rip Off Britain again next year is another thing. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
But that's the other lovely thing that the crowd say. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
They go, "We watch Rip Off Britain, we learn by it." | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I hope that they've learned in the streets today. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Still to come here on Rip Off Britain, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
a year since we first met her, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
what's happened to the woman who was left with a house impossible to sell? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
I definitely feel we're paying the price for somebody else's mistake. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
I'm very angry. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
Very angry and very hurt. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Now, normally, when a company makes a mistake, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
you'd hope it would be relatively simple to put it right | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
and certainly it shouldn't be you that ends up losing out. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
But we've been contacted by a family who, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
through absolutely no fault of their own, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
have ended up in the most dire straits imaginable. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
And, after six long years of fighting, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
now face losing everything, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
all because of disastrous blunders by not a bunch of amateurs, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
but highly skilled professionals | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
who really should've known what they were doing. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Annie and Michael Fan had a tougher start to life than most. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
As child refugees, they fled from Vietnam during the war | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and came to the UK to make a fresh start. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
But after the difficulties they faced, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
the couple have strived to give their own children better | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
opportunities than they had. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
We've encouraged our children to work hard, save money. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
To commit into professional...be honest. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Be more flexible, open-minded, in order to succeed in life. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
In 2007, they were looking to buy an investment property, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
something that would hopefully give them | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
and their children a secure future. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
We want to give them a good head-start throughout their life - | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
that was our intention. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
They found what seemed the perfect property on sale for £180,000 | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
in an area that they knew and liked. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
It was the ground-floor shop and basement of a four-storey | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
end-of-terrace building where they hoped to start their own business. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
But in October, 2007, just as they were exchanging contracts, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Michael and Annie were told by their solicitors that the property | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
had two hefty outstanding debts incurred by the previous owner. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
We were shocked because, like, any transaction... | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
we expect everything go smoothly. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
But the paperwork sent by the seller's lawyers, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
a company called FC Solicitors, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
reassured the couple that they had nothing to worry about. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
The debt wouldn't be passed onto them. Instead, it would be paid | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
off with the money from the sale of the property. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
When this one came to light, we had fights in the English legal system. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:23 | |
Everything would go away. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
But that isn't how things turned out. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
To raise as much money as possible to pay off their debts, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
the sellers had split the building into two | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
and were selling both parts separately, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
which, provided all the paperwork was in order and sorted in one go, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
should have been straightforward. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
We thought it's normal procedure, the charge would have been clear. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
We would have registered our property via Land Registry | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
and we did not worry too much about it. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
The sale of both halves of the building went ahead | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and completed as planned, or so it seemed. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
But, in fact, the whole process had been spectacularly botched | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
by the seller's solicitors. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
The first clue to all that | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
was when they were told that only one of the two debts | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
on the property has been paid off with the money from the sale. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
As for the other, well, in a catastrophic miscalculation, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
FC Solicitors had only managed to pay off part of it. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Almost £67,000 of it remained unpaid. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
And because this debt was secured on the property | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
that Michael and Annie now owned, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
it was money they would now be chased for. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
It's extremely hard to visualise how we maintain our family, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:36 | |
our career, our business... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
It's absolutely a nightmare. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
We literally go through hell. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
And we had to be strong for each other | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
to master this problem all together. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
There are also other errors made by the solicitors, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
but the most disastrous consequence was that the family were | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
being asked to pay a debt that they never took out, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
and now it threatens everything that they've worked for. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
When this happened, we thought that we are both innocent. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
The law somehow will protect it in some way or other. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
Michael and Annie took their complaint to the | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Solicitors Regulation Authority, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
who, after investigating what had happened, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
struck off the solicitor responsible for the mistakes. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
They also ruled that the outstanding debt should be | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
paid off by FC Solicitors, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
but the company didn't do it and they ceased trading. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
But that hasn't helped Michael and Annie. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
They're still being chased for the outstanding debt, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
which, with interest added, has now risen to just over £150,000. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
The company tried to make a claim | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
on the solicitor's professional insurance, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
but the company's insurers said they wouldn't pay out. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
They've also tried getting compensation from the regulator | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
but, so far, that has got them nowhere. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Michael and Annie are now in danger of losing everything. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Basically, we have to pay for it. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
And, obviously, we have to raise the money somehow to pay for it. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
And if you don't have that money, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
you could become bankrupt. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
And if you're working all your life to build up this far, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
and you've got four children | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
and you want to set a good example to your next generation, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
how do you feel about it? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
You are innocent party... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
and you are let down by the legal system. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
The couple have now been battling to resolve this for six years, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
but the situation has only gotten worse. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
They've had to fight a repossession order placed on the property | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
in an attempt to force them into paying the debt that should | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
never have been theirs. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
And, with their funds long gone, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
they have no choice but to represent themselves in court. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
The more this case goes on, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
we realise we are really on our own and nobody is actually helping us. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
And we keep having to pay all these bills. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
It's really, really frustrating. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Michael and Annie feel they've been let down at every stage, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
first by the solicitors who got them into this mess, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
but also by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, who, as yet, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
haven't got them out of it. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
We wrote to two former partners of FC Solicitors, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
the company who had got the family into this situation | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
in the first place. They haven't replied. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
We also contacted the Solicitors Regulation Authority | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and asked them why, as yet, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
they haven't given the Fans any compensation. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
They told us that a full review was under way and, in fact, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
just as we were finishing this programme, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Michael got in touch with some fantastic news. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
After fighting this debt for six long years, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
the Solicitors Regulation Authority has now agreed in principle | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
to compensate him, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
which has come as a huge relief to Michael and his family, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
who can now finally stop worrying and start planning for their future. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
As we've been hearing, what may seem a small mistake to a solicitor | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
can have far-reaching implications for you. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
So, what's the best way to go about finding a good solicitor | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
in the first place? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
At our pop-up shop, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
solicitor Gary Rycroft was on hand with some key advice. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
Try and choose a solicitor who has some kind of quality mark. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
The Law Society has a quality scheme called Lexcel, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
so law firms that have the Lexcel badge have passed certain standard. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
Solicitors are regulated and insured, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
so it's not rude or cheeky to ask | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
for a policy of their professional indemnity insurance. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
It's always a good idea to find out how much your solicitor is going | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
to charge before you employ their services. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Before you engage the services of a solicitor, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
always ask for a quote. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
Always remember that the cheapest quote may not necessarily | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
result in the best service. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
Once you've decided to engage the services of a solicitor, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
ask for written confirmation of the cost and all terms and conditions. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
Despite doing all of this, things may still go wrong. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
Solicitors are only human, after all, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
so it's important you know where to go if they do. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
When you engage the services of a solicitor, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
they should always tell you about their internal complaints procedure | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
in their initial terms and conditions. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
So, never be afraid to make a complaint | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
according to that procedure. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
And if you're still not satisfied after following the company's | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
response to your complaint, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
you can take things to the next level. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Ultimately, you can make a written formal complaint | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
to the Legal Ombudsman. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
But they're charged with dealing with consumer complains about | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
all sides of the legal profession... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
anyone who has offered legal services to a consumer. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Most companies you tell us about haven't set out to rip you off, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
so when you feel that's what's happened, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
it may be their terms and conditions just weren't clear enough | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
or there's been a genuine mistake they've been slow to put right. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
Whatever the explanation, when things go wrong, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
you need to know what to do and where to turn. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
So, we've put together a guide of tips and advice. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
You can find a link to the free guide on our website. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Or, for a hard copy, send a stamped A5 envelope | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
to the address that we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Something a lot you point out to us is that, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
when you feel you've had a raw deal, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
it's not always just about the money. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
It's the sense of injustice | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
and unfairness that can leave a nasty taste in the mouth. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
That's very much the case with this next story | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
and indeed why we felt we just had to investigate further. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Five years on from the peak of the financial crisis, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
our relationship with our banks has changed for ever. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Official reports and enquiries suggest the banking system | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
remains unfixed and it's clear that the trust | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
they could once take for granted is no longer guaranteed. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Do I trust my bank? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Erm... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
not wholeheartedly. No, I don't think I do. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
They're a necessary evil, I think. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Don't really give the service the banks ought to, or used to. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Viv Woods has lost confidence in her bank Santander, and she blames them | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
for the fact she's out of pocket by thousands of pounds. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Her problems began after she changed | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
her mortgage product in October, 2010. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
My mortgage that I have with Santander was coming | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
to its end of its two-year term. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Santander contacted me by letter to say that | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
if I took out a new product with them, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
my mortgage monthly payments would halve. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Santander were suggesting that Viv pick a new fixed or discounted-rate | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
product to be sure she was getting the mortgage best suited | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
to her needs - a deal that seemed too good to pass up. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
But, with her home up for sale, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
she wanted to be confident she could take her new mortgage with her, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
with no penalties attached, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
and her bank seemed happy to reassure her on that. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
They said, "That's not a problem. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
"All that happens is your mortgage moves with you. It's portable. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
"You'll take it from this house | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
"and you'll move it to wherever you move to." | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Six months later, having found a buyer for her house | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
and a new dream home with plenty of outside space for her horses, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
she contacted Santander to tell them | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
she was ready to move her portable mortgage to the new property. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
But there was a problem. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
Santander told her she couldn't take the mortgage with her after all, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
which would leave Viv unable to buy the home she'd set her heart on. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I was totally shocked when they said, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
"You can't transfer your mortgage. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
"There's no prospect that this mortgage will be transferred." | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
So, I kept ringing them. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
I went through a complaints procedure and then, finally, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
one lady said to me, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
"I suggest you obtain a credit report and you'll find you've not | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
"paid your mortgage for November." | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
Viv was baffled. She knew she'd paid the amount she needed to, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
but when the credit report arrived, it showed that, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
when a few months earlier she'd changed over to the new mortgage | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
that Santander had offered her, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
she'd made two payments in one month and, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
unfortunately, the bank's systems hadn't registered that one of these | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
was intended to cover the next month. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
As a result, what seems as though it should've been an easily sorted | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
case of "computer says no" was jeopardising | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
the whole of her house purchase. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
They couldn't set up a Direct Debit in time for the new mortgage, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
so I'd sent a cheque and that cleared on the 28th of October, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
which was for the November payment. I kept explaining that. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
I even got my bank statements and said, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
"I note the dates that it's cleared." | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
They wouldn't accept it. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
It meant that we couldn't complete on this property | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
and I was frightened that we were going to lose it. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
HORSE NEIGHS | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
It was really stressful. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
I was tearful and constantly contacted Santander | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
to try to tell them to rectify their error... | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
and they wouldn't do it. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
All this was a real shock to Viv. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
She couldn't understand why she was suddenly being told | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
she couldn't transport her mortgage, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
especially so soon after the bank had encouraged her to take it out. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
If I'm such a bad customer with such a bad credit history | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
that I'm not worthy of having a mortgage with | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
or porting a mortgage, why sell me a new product? | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
The bit I don't understand is, they contacted me | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
and asked me to keep my mortgage with them. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
And if I was such a risk, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
they wouldn't have offered a new product on the old property. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
Apart from one missed payment in 2010 when her mother had died, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
which the bank was fully aware of, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Viv had always kept on top of her payments. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
But, then, just as it looked like she was going to lose her dream home, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Santander got in touch with some good news. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I received a phone call from the Executive Complaints Director, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
which sounds pretty official to me, to say, "We've got it wrong." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
He explained that because the computer system at Santander | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
hadn't recognised a payment on the 1st of November, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
they had made a mistake, and he apologised profusely. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
I was so excited, I cried and I cracked open a bottle of champagne, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:30 | |
because it just meant that everything was sorted | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
and it was all over. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
Santander wrote to Viv, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
saying they would amend her credit file to take off the missed | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
payment and advised her to reapply to successfully port her mortgage. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
Viv was reassured the purchase of her new home could go ahead. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
But she was in for another shock. When, as suggested, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
her financial advisor contacted Santander to reapply, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
they informed him they still weren't prepared to lend on the new property | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
and Viv still didn't meet the criteria | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
for the mortgage to be transferred. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
With a two-week deadline looming before the completion | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
on selling HER home, Viv felt she had little choice | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
but to go ahead with the sale and move into rented accommodation. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
The people had to complete on my property in May, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
they had a deadline. I didn't want to let them down. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
I wanted to move from my house, cos I didn't have enough land, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
but I had no property to move to. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
I had to rent an acre field with two stables for six horses and my goat, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:34 | |
and we had to rent an alternative house. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
We had to move into rented accommodation. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
With the sale of her home completed, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
and desperate not to lose the one she wanted to buy, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
on the advice of her financial advisor, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Viv approached another mortgage lender. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
They wasn't bothered about any problems. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
They knew the urgency... | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
They instructed a surveyor the day after and, by one o'clock, | 0:31:57 | 0:32:04 | |
the mortgage offers had been faxed through to both | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
my financial advisor and my solicitors. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Viv finally moved into her home in July, 2011, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
but there was one final and very costly twist still to come. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
My solicitor contacted me as completion was going through | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
on the 7th of July on my dream home, to say, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
"I'm really sorry, Viv, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
"but because you haven't ported your mortgage with Santander, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
"and because you've gone to a new supplier for your mortgage, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
"they're charging you £5,700 in an early redemption fee." | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
That, to me, was just wholly unacceptable. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
Determined that she shouldn't have to pay for a situation | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
she's adamant was because of an error by the bank, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Viv is now pursuing Santander through the courts to claim the money back. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
When a bank like this make a decision that | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
"we're not transferring your mortgage," | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
they don't know what you're going through. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
I'm just disillusioned in the way that they treat people | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
and the way that they accuse you and don't listen. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
When we contacted Santander, they told us they've reviewed the details | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
of Viv's case but maintain that she did not meet the eligibility | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
criteria for porting her mortgage because of her payments and arrears. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
And they say | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
as she chose to move her mortgage before the end of the term, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
in line with their terms and conditions, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
an early repayment charge was applicable. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
Even so, just as we were finishing this programme, there was good news. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
As a good will gesture, and without accepting any liability, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
or that they were wrong, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
the bank has now offered to give Viv the money back, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
but she's still unhappy about everything that has happened. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Nobody understands the effect that it has on somebody's life. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
They must say sorry to me - | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
I'm absolutely adamant about that - | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
and then I'd like my money back, please. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
I'd like my £5,700 back. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
Nobody understands the effect it has on somebody's life | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
and the effect it has upon you. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Now, one of the most memorable stories in our series last year | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
was to do with the devastating implications of a mistake | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
that had left one woman unable to sell their family home. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
And it was all because an extraordinary but really crucial | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
detail had been missed. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
Well, there have been some big developments in that situation | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
since then, although, sadly, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
it doesn't mean that things are actually resolved. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
It was 2007 when Chris from Sussex first put her house on the market. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
But for the next five years, she found it impossible to sell. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
She had plenty of viewings and even offers, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
but all fell through for the same astonishing reason. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
Chris first got in touch with Rip Off Britain last year, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
after yet another potential buyer had pulled out. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I was gutted. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
I just can't find the words to express how I feel. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
I felt as if I had been dealt a great big, hefty blow. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
Each time the sale had collapsed, it was because of an extraordinary | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
complication with the title deeds of Chris' property, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
one likely to put off any buyer, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
but it had only become clear when Chris put the house up for sale. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
She discovered then that the deeds contained a clause forbidding | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
them to sell the house without their next door neighbour's permission. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
What's more, any structural changes to the home would need to be | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
run past the neighbour as well. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:37 | |
So, technically, even if they wanted to knock a wall down | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
inside the house, they would have to pop next door | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
to check if that was all right. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
This is why the people pulled out of buying the property, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
because they weren't prepared to take the house on | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
with those restrictions on, which is fair enough. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
We wouldn't have taken it on if we'd have been told about it. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
And that is the root of the problem. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
When she'd bought the house back in 2000, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Chris said she wasn't told about the restrictions. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
It later emerged that Chris' house had been built on land | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
which originally belonged to next door. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Now, when the land was eventually divided up, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
the deeds weren't adjusted accordingly. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
But Chris couldn't understand how the property was sold to her | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
with the restrictions in place, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
so she asked the solicitors that handled the original sale, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
a Maidstone-based company called Gullands, for an explanation. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
And they accepted that they could have done more to put right | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
the deeds at the time she bought it. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
They've admitted, technically, the wording was wrong. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
They admitted they're wrong. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
He's admitted they could have been corrected. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
Gullands were confident that the problem could easily be resolved. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
But, in fact, getting the restrictions on her home lifted | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
has proved more difficult than anyone anticipated. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
And for the next five years, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
Chris' house proved virtually unsellable. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Over that period, she faced every potential buyer, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
knowing that as soon as they found out about the restrictions | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
on the property, they, too, would be put off. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
She feels her solicitors Gullands have totally let her down. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
They're the legal profession. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
It's their job to know what all this is about, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
what conveyancing is about, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
what those words on those papers mean. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
We paid them good money to read that and to act in our best interests. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
Gullands did offer to pay a total of £435 compensation, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
some of which was to cover the inconvenience caused | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
and handle any future sale of her property for no fee. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
But Chris doesn't consider that covers what she has lost. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
She feels that, with the extra legal costs she's paid out, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
as well as the financial implications | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
of staying in the old house longer than she'd hoped, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
the knock-on effects of all of this have been catastrophic. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
I definitely feel we're paying the price for somebody else's mistake. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
In November last year, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
Chris did finally manage to sell her house and move to this bungalow. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
To do so, she employed another firm of solicitors, who, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
funded by the legal protection on her home insurance, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
eventually paid the neighbours £10,000 in order | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
for the restrictions to be lifted. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
And she ended up accepting an offer £110,000 lower than the offer | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
she'd had before the problem came to light. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
All of which means she's been left with a large mortgage on her | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
new home and, instead of enjoying their retirement, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
her husband has to continue to work. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Having a mortgage just horrifies me and upsets me, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
because we shouldn't be having it. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
My husband should be retired and enjoying this. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
He's left the house this morning at six o'clock... | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
this morning to get a train to work. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
He won't be home until six o'clock tonight. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
He's 64. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
He's worked nearly 50 years and he's now still talking that | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
he's got to work over retirement age because of this mortgage. | 0:38:54 | 0:39:00 | |
Although Chris is now settled in her new home, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
she can't believe that the restrictions were ever | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
there in the first place. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
When we purchased the property, they never pointed out to us | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
the effects of the covenants on the property, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
so I blame them for putting us in the situation we're in. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
We asked solicitors Gullands about Chris' case. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
They've told us they're always disappointed | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
when a client is less than satisfied | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
but maintain that, in their opinion, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
the covenants were not of themselves onerous | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
and say they were brought to Chris' attention when she bought the house, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
something she emphatically disputes. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
They say this case involved a simple error at the Land Registry | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
and they do not accept that this issue should have caused | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
any real problems when Chris wanted to sell her house. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
And although they accept they could have taken the opportunity | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
to correct things at the time, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
they're satisfied that they've dealt with the case fairly, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
that they've taken every opportunity to engage with Chris, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
and that their original offer of compensation was appropriate. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
They also point out that, although they're not privy | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
to any further legal advice Chris may have received, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
no legal proceedings have been served. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
But while her former solicitors remain confident that | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
all this should not have created an ongoing issue, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Chris is adamant that it has and is clear that, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
however the problem could best have been resolved, for her, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
it's caused an extraordinary amount of stress. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
I'm very angry. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
Very angry and very hurt. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
My first ever bill, I'd only been in the house for four months, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
and it was for £2,000, erm...£2,700. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover that you've lost out | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and that "great deal" has ended up costing you money? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
We don't have that amount of money, so... | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
..I can't see an end to this situation at all. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
and want to share the mistakes that you made with us, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
so that others don't do the same. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
And had no idea that this company with this wonderful website | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
was going to be so poor. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Or send us an email to... | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
The Rip Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
Well, we all make mistakes but it's how we put them right | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
that can make all the difference. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
And if there has been some kind of error and it isn't easily fixed - | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
well, as we've been hearing, it can make the situation so much worse. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
It really can and, quite honestly, I'm always astonished to hear | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
how, in some of the most extreme situations you tell us about, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
you can feel as if you're pretty much on your own, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
trying to fight your corner with far less help or protection than | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
you might have expected. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:08 | |
But, of course, that's where we come in. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
So, do keep telling us about situations | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
where someone else's blunder has left you out of pocket | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
and, hopefully, we can either point you in the right direction of where to turn to, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
or stop the same thing happening to someone else. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Well, we're going to see you again very soon to investigate | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
even more of your stories but, until then, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
-from the Rip Off team, bye-bye. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
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