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'We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off

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'and you contacted us in your thousands,

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'by post, e-mail, even stopping us on the street,

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'and the message could not be clearer.'

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It feels to me that I'm fighting a battle that I can't win.

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It costs you a fortune and when you get through, you get fobbed off.

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'You told us, with money tight,

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'you need to be sure that every pound spent is worth it.'

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We ploughed thousands into it and we had nowhere to turn.

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'So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake

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'or a catch in the small print,

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'we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do.'

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'Your stories, your money.'

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'This is Rip-Off Britain.'

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Welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

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where it's our job to investigate why you reckon you've had a raw deal

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or haven't got what you expected.

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Now, the insurance industry pays out millions of pounds every day,

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but it's when they reject the claim that so many of you write to us.

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While a lot of these claims are usually rejected for good reasons,

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there are always some where the explanation given can be,

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to say the least, a little unusual.

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We only buy insurance to protect us in an emergency.

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When it doesn't do that and it looks as if we've paid for nothing,

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it can be a dreadful blow.

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So throughout our stories, we'll have advice to keep in mind

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to make sure the same things don't happen to you.

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'On today's programme - pets at a premium -

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'the rising cost of caring for your furry friends.'

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This takes it to a whole new level

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because the increases are unbelievable.

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I feel they're holding us to ransom.

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'Three years after this family business burnt to the ground,

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'the frustrations of waiting to see if the insurance company will pay.'

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I'm mentally strained and tired of it all -

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it has put a massive strain on me and my family.

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'Plus we tackle more of your issues face to face at our Pop-Up Shop.'

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Of course, we all love our holidays.

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But the number of people going abroad without any travel insurance

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is on the rise

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and it's reckoned up to a quarter of us will go away unprotected.

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Then, if disaster strikes,

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that can turn out to be a very expensive mistake.

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Sometimes, of course, even when you DO have travel cover,

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it's no guarantee that your policy will pay out in the end.

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Barry and Jean wrote to us about an adventure they'd planned

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to the other side of the world,

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but when the holiday was interrupted in the most horrendous way,

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their insurance claim was turned down

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and they were given an extraordinary reason as to why.

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New Zealand was somewhere I've wanted to go to for a long time.

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Barry actually wanted to go to New Zealand as well.

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Fiji was my little bonus -

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I wanted to just chill out on a beach.

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'But Barry and Jean never made it to Fiji

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'and the end of their six-week holiday in February 2012

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'was not all what they'd planned for.'

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We had arrived in New Zealand and had a wonderful time,

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travelling around, before disaster struck.

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I'd begun to get a pain in my left side.

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Unfortunately, the pain got worse

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and, by five o'clock in the morning,

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I was struggling to breathe at all.

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I thought "This is serious."

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'The couple's holiday of a lifetime came crashing to a halt

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'and Jean was rushed to hospital.'

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'But with the medical centre not really equipped to treat her,

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'Barry had to take her by car to a bigger hospital

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'about an hour away.'

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It was a bit nerve-wracking

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because I didn't quite know how bad she felt.

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It wasn't actually until she got to the hospital

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that she deteriorated quite quickly.

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She was virtually not breathing

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and they all rushed in and... revived her.

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'Thankfully, the medical staff were soon able to get Jean stabilised.'

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'The doctors believed she'd had a pulmonary embolism,

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'perhaps brought on by deep vein thrombosis,

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'but, to be sure, Jean would need a CT scan,

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'which had to be done in a hospital five hours away in Dunedin.'

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'She was taken there by ambulance.'

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I just didn't know how long she was going to -

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or whether she was going to be all right at all.

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'It became clear that Jean's condition was not just serious,

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'but potentially life-threatening.'

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'Although caught in time, she needed to stay in hospital for treatment

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'and obviously wouldn't be able to continue her holiday.'

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'In fact, there was only one place she wanted to go to next.'

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There was obviously no question of going to Fiji,

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so it was a case of "How soon can I get out of here

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"and get back home again?"

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'After a week in hospital and a couple of further days' observation,

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'Jean was declared fit to fly

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'and the couple returned home.'

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When we walked through from arrivals,

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erm, at Heathrow,...

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..my grandsons came running.

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Erm,... it was marvellous.

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It was absolutely great

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because that was the point at which I realised

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I might not have seen them again.

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So relieved to be back home safely with their family,

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'they were confident that, as they'd arranged travel insurance with AXA,

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'one of Britain's best-known policy providers,

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'they would get back the thousands of pounds they'd lost

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'as they'd never made it to Fiji.'

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The main bulk of the claim was the loss of our holiday

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to Fiji -

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there was an invoice for £2,800.

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'In went the claim

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'and shortly afterwards the couple say they received a phone call

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'assuring them that it would be paid out in full.'

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I thought "This is great. I didn't think it was going to be this easy!"

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'So Barry and Jean waited for the settlement to come through.'

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'But their relief that all was being sorted quickly

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'turned to bewilderment when, soon afterwards, AXA sent them a letter

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'saying something different to what the couple say they'd been told.'

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Two weeks later, the letter came

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with the offer of a settlement

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and it was far from a complete settlement.

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'AXA now said that they'd cover the cost of Jean's stay in hospital.'

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'But when it came to the Fiji trip, they would only pay for Jean's half

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'because it was only her that had been hospitalised

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'and had to cut short her holiday.'

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They were happy to pay for Jean,

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but they weren't happy to pay for me

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because they said that my holiday wasn't curtailed.

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We were quite stunned really

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because we had carefully read the policy

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before we put in the claim, a number of times,

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and couldn't see what the problem was. We still can't.

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'AXA's policy states

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'that it would pay for "any unused travel and accommodation costs

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'"if cancellation of the trip is unavoidable

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'"or curtailment has been caused by illness of either you

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'"or any person with whom you are travelling."'

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'As Barry was travelling with Jean,

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'they couldn't understand why AXA was saying

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'they wouldn't get the full amount.'

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I phoned up and queried it and their reply was that,

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because I was not hospitalised,

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it was only my wife,

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my holiday wasn't curtailed.

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Something major like this, potentially life-threatening -

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this is what you have insurance for.

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'Jean and Barry simply can't understand AXA's position.'

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'But despite months of phone calls, e-mail and letters,

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'AXA wouldn't budge, insisting that the right decision had been made

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'and they wouldn't pay Barry's half of the cancelled trip to Fiji.'

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'It means the couple have been left nearly £1,400 out of pocket.'

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They were adamant that they weren't going to pay us any more money.

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The moral of the story is - never go on holiday with someone

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who you're not prepared to abandon should they become seriously ill.

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I just cannot believe

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how bad their performance has been, dealing with this claim.

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'We asked AXA why they hadn't paid out for both Jean and Barry

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'and finally there was good news.'

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'They said the decision was down to...'

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'Now, having "fully investigated" the case, the company has...'

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'..and has apologised for any inconvenience caused.'

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'And, although getting all their money back

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'brings to an end months of worry for Barry and Jean,

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'the experience has dampened their travelling spirit

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'and their next holiday will be closer to home.'

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Fiji's out, I think. It's a very long way.

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Instead of that, I'll choose a nice, big holiday that's not so far

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and have my time on the beach.

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If you've had any travel experience that you'd like us to investigate,

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then please do let us know.

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We'll have a whole series looking at holiday horrors early next year.

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So do send your stories to our usual address...

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We're always here.

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One type of insurance where the number of complaints is rocketing

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is pet insurance.

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We've seen a rise in the number of letters and e-mails on this topic

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and the Financial Ombudsman Service

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say that the number of people who have contacted them has doubled.

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The problems you've reported to us

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are typically to do with either soaring premiums

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or policies that have not paid out,

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which is why, however much you may love your four-legged friends,

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some of you are questioning whether or not getting them insured

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is actually worth it.

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'There's no escaping the fact that we're a nation of animal lovers.'

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'In fact, when money is tight,

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'we're more likely to cut back on luxuries for ourselves

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'than make our pets live without THEIR treats.'

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'And with the lifetime cost of a dog ranging from £16-31,000,

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'our pets are expensive.'

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Come on!

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'And last October, Peter, who owns Labradoodle Bentley,

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'discovered that Bentley would become even more expensive to own

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'when the premium for his pet insurance more than doubled.'

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'But Peter had every reason to think that Bentley was in tip-top health.'

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He's very sociable with other people, loves other people,

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loves many dogs

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and goes through life... He's also a very laid-back dog,

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so he tends to be found relaxed in the corner.

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'Bentley is now six years old

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'and Peter and wife Penny have owned him for the last four,

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'after seeing him at a rescue centre.'

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Being a rescue dog, we didn't know what had happened to him beforehand.

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All we knew is that, just before we got him,

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there was some neglect,

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because when we got him, his hair was in dreadlocks and matted,

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so he hadn't been cared for quite as well as he might've been.

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'Peter had no hesitation in taking out pet insurance for Bentley.'

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We've always been insured with our dogs

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because there's the medical aspect,

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but there's also if the dog causes an accident -

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the third-party cover, we think, is essential.

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'In November 2009, Peter insured Bentley with Argos pet insurance

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'and paid just under £140 for their Platinum cover.'

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We'd used Argos with our previous dog and had had no problems,

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so we went back to them because their quote was good.

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'Six months into the first year of cover, Bentley fell ill.'

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He had a problem with his hearing,

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which made him shake his head a lot, and we took him to the vet

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and he wouldn't let the vet inspect his ears because they were painful.

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The vet anaesthetised him and found out he had a perforated eardrum

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on one side,

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so we had to have all the treatment for that.

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'Peter made a claim for the treatment and Argos sent a cheque.'

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'Later that year, they also covered Bentley's follow-up treatment too,

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'but this had very little impact on Bentley's insurance premium.'

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'When Peter came to renew, it had only increased by nearly £50.'

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'A whole year passed, with no more medical emergencies.'

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'So the next time Peter came to renew the policy,

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'he was surprised to see that the premium had increased

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'by another £100.'

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'Nevertheless, he renewed again because he was happy with Argos.'

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'But last October, after another healthy year for Bentley,

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'he was more surprised to see that, this time,

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'his renewal quote had more than doubled -

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'from £287.59

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'to £594.73.'

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We were shocked. We'd had an increase in the previous year,

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but this one seemed to be totally out of proportion,

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particularly as we hadn't claimed in the previous year.

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We'd only claimed in the first year.

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'And, as there had been no claim on Bentley's insurance for two years,

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'Peter asked Argos to explain the increase.'

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Their main explanation was it was based on an increase in vet fees.

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When I said "We hadn't claimed", they said "That doesn't matter"

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because they didn't base it on your history,

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they based it on the average for the area

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and hence the fees within the area.

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'Unhappy with the rise, Peter started to shop around

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'for a more affordable quote,

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'but he discovered that doing so would be harder than he thought.'

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Basically, if you move to a new insurer,

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they will not cover you for anything the dog has been treated for.

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'Because the problems that led to Bentley's perforated eardrum

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'are common in dogs of his type,

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'Peter would have to declare it as a pre-existing condition,

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'so most insurers Peter contacted said Bentley would not be covered.'

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If we'd stayed with Argos and we had a recurrence of his ears,

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that would've been covered.

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But going to any other insurer, that would not occur.

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'So Peter could pay Argos twice as much for the same level of cover

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'or swap to another insurer and save hundreds of pounds -

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'just so long as Bentley's ear problems didn't come back.'

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I feel they're holding us to ransom

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with the way they deal with you.

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You suddenly get a quote come in,

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vastly greater than the one you had before

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and you've got this dilemma

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of "Do I just pay it to continue my cover

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"or are we prepared to risk

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"that his pre-existing condition will not reoccur?"

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'With other people also telling us their pet premiums have rocketed,

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'is pet insurance really worth it

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'or is it better to put money aside just in case of an emergency?'

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'One reason Argos had given for the rising cost of cover

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'was that vets' bills are becoming more expensive

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'and whilst smaller procedures have not seen a dramatic rise in price,

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'Alan Sim, who's a vet in Dorset, not far from where Bentley lives,

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'says it is true that the high-tech end of animal health care

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'is costly.'

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There's certainly been an obvious escalation in veterinary costs

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as more high-tech procedures become available

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for the pet population.

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Even as little as ten years ago, such things as MRI scans

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were highly unusual to be done on pets.

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Now it's really quite a common procedure,

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along with things like CT scans, radiotherapy -

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all the sort of high-tech science

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that has improved human medicine

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is coming into veterinary medicine in a big way.

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'And high-tech treatment means high prices.'

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For simple treatments and surgery,

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you may be able to treat minor problems for £50 or so.

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For a major orthopaedic operation, it is not unusual,

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particularly if the animal has to be referred to a referral centre,

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to pay several thousand pounds.

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'It was potential costs of this size

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'that influenced Peter's decision over Bentley's insurance.'

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'Ultimately, he decided that Argos's renewal quote was too expensive

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'and went with a quote from somewhere else,

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'even though Bentley would not be covered for every eventuality.'

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If we'd have carried on with them,

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paid this big amount,

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we would be covered for something,

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but we'd still have to pay this enormously increased premium,

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whereas, going to another insurer, we haven't got the same cover,

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but we've got less than half the amount to pay.

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'We asked Argos why Peter's renewal quote had risen so much.'

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'Though concerned to learn that he was unhappy,

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'after "an urgent investigation",

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'they concluded that the premiums Peter was quoted -

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'the highest level of cover - were...'

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'Argos say pet insurance is a type of health insurance...'

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'Other factors that impact on cost include claims history

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'and, as they said at the time, increasing vet costs.'

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'The company also point out that, in 2012,

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'it changed its underwriter to offer additional benefits

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'to ensure that customers...'

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'Peter's new cover is underwritten by the same company that Argos use,

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'but, at £250, it's well under half the cost he would have to pay

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'by keeping his old policy.'

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'And while he no longer has the same level of cover,

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'Peter is happy he made the decision not just to renew for another year.'

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You see on the telly people who've renewed their house insurance

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without looking at the figure.

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This takes it to a whole new level

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because the increases are unbelievable in this case

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and you're almost duty-bound to go with it

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if you want to retain the cover.

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'We've been on the road again,

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'opening up another of our Pop-Up Shops.'

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This year, we're in Liverpool.

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For one weekend, we've taken over this space in the shopping centre

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and this time, our shop is bigger and better than ever.

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You're right, because we have more experts to give free advice

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to people who come along with their consumer problems.

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We also have street workshops to help people avoid being ripped off.

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And I think we'll be inundated, so shall we get cracking? Let's go.

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Morning, everybody! Yay! Good morning. How are you all?

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'Outside the shop, we had a complaints corner,

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'where you could come and get things off your chest.'

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That makes me feel as if I am being ripped off.

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'Insurance was a real bugbear

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'and we heard a lot about one particular kind.'

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Do you know what annoys me? Mobile phones.

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Phone companies overcharging on the insurance.

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Me phone contract is like £36 a month

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and that's with insurance as well.

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'But it wasn't just insurance you came to see us about.'

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'Therese asked financial journalist Sarah Pennells

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'about collective energy saving,

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'an increasingly popular way of buying energy as a group

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'so you can negotiate a better rate.'

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I've heard about collective energy saving -

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will it benefit me because I live on my own?

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Bills keep going up and up and up and it's not funny any more.

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The advantage for you is you don't have to shop around

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and hopefully you should get a good deal.

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The disadvantage is you might not get the best deal

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for you as an individual, but it's worth investigating further.

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'Another of our money experts, James Daley, had some help for Marion,

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'who came to see us about pensions

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'after worrying that she'd be overcharged for advice.'

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What would normally happen when you buy an annuity,

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you'd get charged for the advice up front,

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which can come out of your pension pot.

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That should be a few hundred pounds.

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But I really doubt whether or not

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you should be paying anything like £3,000 for the advice

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and certainly not an ongoing fee.

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'Our experts have put together some free factsheets with their advice

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'from our Pop-Up weekend

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'and you can find them on our website.'

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'Still to come on Rip-Off Britain -

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'the consequences of not fully understanding an insurance policy.'

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I just want my home back.

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That's all I want - my home back.

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Next, another Rip-Off viewer who's ended up a very unhappy customer

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and wrote to us to tell us why.

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'Steve Grant has been in the panel-beating business for years,

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'repairing damaged vehicles for customers,

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'including big-name bus companies.'

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I started business in 2003

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doing cars, buses, coaches

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and numerous other things that needed painting.

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If a car has a scratch down the side or the bonnet

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or there's dent in the wing, my staff get the dent removed

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and then give it back to the customer in a perfect condition.

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'But this isn't Steve's first panel-beating business.'

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'That one has ceased trading,

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'thanks to an incident three years ago in July 2010,

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'which he's been battling with his insurer Aviva

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'to resolve ever since.'

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Business wasn't bad.

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It wasn't fantastic as there was a recession in 2010

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but we just finished a big contract with a major company

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and we were about to start another one with another company

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and we had six buses due in on the Monday.

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'At the end of that midsummer Friday,

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'Steve went home for the weekend.'

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'But a few hours later, he received the sort of phone call

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'every business owner dreads.'

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I was called about ten past, 20 past ten by the security

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up on the trading estate.

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His words was to me "Steve, your premises have got a fire."

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'20 minutes later, Steve arrived at the entrance to the trading estate,

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'but couldn't get close to his building.'

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'He told the fire brigade there were flammable paints inside,

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'then all he could do was watch as his business went up in smoke.'

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I was absolutely, er, gobsmacked.

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It took away...

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I felt that it just ruined my life overnight

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because it had taken me ten years to build a business up

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and to lose it in two hours -

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it... it destroyed me.

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It destroyed me.

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'The police and fire service started to investigate the possible cause,

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'but found nothing suspicious.'

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The fire report came back saying

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that the cause of the fire was accidental.

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The police came to me and said to me

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"Mr Grant, there's nothing suspicious here,

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"so good luck in the future" and they went.

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'The fire brigade concluded that the fire was an accident

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'and the police did not see fit to make further investigations.'

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'So Steve thought claiming on his insurance would be straightforward.'

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'He called his broker to ask him to make a claim.'

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He did contact Aviva,

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who were my insurers at the time,

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to let them know that I'd just had a major fire

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and there's been a catastrophe and obviously there's a major claim.

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'Steve estimates that around £160,000 worth

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'of materials and equipment was destroyed in the fire.'

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'He was also insured for disruption to his business,

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'but it became clear that claiming for this

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'and the expensive contents of the building would not be simple.'

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When I was interviewed by Aviva's loss adjusters,

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I was interviewed for many hours -

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four to five hours. Intense.

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Some of the questions were - locks on doors? Locks on windows?

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Where was the key? Were you the key holder?

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Did anyone else have keys?

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'Like anyone wanting a big claim resolved,

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'Steve was impatient for it to be settled.'

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'It can be frustrating having to wait for a decision on a big claim,

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'but it's necessary that every avenue is investigated

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'before a payout can be made.'

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'But, as the months went by,

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'Steve became increasingly unhappy

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'as Aviva began to raise other questions about the business

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'and whether he'd included all relevant information

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'when he took out the policy.'

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'He had to move to new premises and try to keep the business afloat

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'while £160,000 out of pocket.'

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Being me

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and strong-minded and things like that,

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I just didn't sit back.

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I just went and started up again,

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using my own personal money to start back up.

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I was one of the lucky ones who had a bit of money to do so.

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'Steve opened his new panel-beating business so he could keep working

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'while his solicitor and broker tried to get closer to a decision.'

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'But when, nine months after the fire, there was still no sign of it,

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'Steve felt the only way forward was to start legal proceedings

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'in the hope that it might force Aviva to pay out.'

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I've spent a lot of money, personal money,

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after the fire,

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due to setting up again

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and also paying legal fees and solicitors' fees...

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..in the excess of

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£86-87,000.

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'Steve's started legal proceedings against Aviva,

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'seeking over half a million pounds

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'to cover what he says is the damage to his business and loss of earnings

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'plus the value of the equipment and vehicles lost in the fire.'

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That's affected me massively,

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with work, my family life,

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my friends - all my friends have noticed a change in me.

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I'm not the same guy I was three, four years ago.

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'Steve's insurers Aviva

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'say they can't really comment on his case because...'

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'But they point out that at the time those proceedings began, they...'

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'They went on to say there were...'

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'..when Steve took out the policy

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'and, if they'd know these then,

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'it's "unlikely" Steve's business would've been insured at all.'

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'If you've ever thought it's getting tougher to make a successful claim,

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'you're in good company.'

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'Research earlier this year

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'from the British Insurance Brokers' Association - BIBA -

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'found that 89 per cent of brokers asked thought so too.'

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'So what should you do

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'if you're concerned about how your claim is being handled?'

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Talk to the insurer and hopefully the issue will then be resolved.

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If not, every insurer has a formal complaints procedure.

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At that point, the insurers are legally bound

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to respond to you within eight weeks.

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If they don't or you're not happy,

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an individual could take their complaint

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to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

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That's an independent body and they will investigate the claim.

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A business can't go to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

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Their only option is legal action.

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'Which was what Steve did.'

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'He's due to go to mediation in the autumn

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'to try to resolve his case.'

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'He says he'd never have expected that making an insurance claim

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'would've taken so long and had such an effect on him.'

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I've still got a business to run and a family to look after

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and it has put a massive, massive strain on me and my family.

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'Most companies you tell us about haven't set out to rip you off,

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'so when you feel that has happened,

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'it may be that their terms and conditions weren't clear enough

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'or that there's been a mistake that they've been slow to put right.'

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'Whatever the situation, you need to know what to do and where to turn.'

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'So we've put together a guide of tips and advice.'

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'You can find a link to the free guide on our website...'

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'Or, for a hard copy, send a stamped, A5, self-addressed envelope

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'to the address that we'll give you at the end of the programme.'

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Perhaps the most common frustration

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when you're making any sort of insurance claim

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is how long it can take to get the whole thing resolved.

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And that can make life especially difficult

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if you've got a problem that needs putting right urgently.

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For example, if, like our next family,

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you're stuck with a gaping big hole in the ceiling.

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'Knowing what is and isn't covered under any insurance policy

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'can be tricky, as Edna has found out to her cost.'

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'As a mum of three, she's used to handling what life throws at her,

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'but, for the last nine months, she's come unstuck

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'by some of the terms of her home-insurance policy.'

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I was disturbed in my sleep at about 2am, 2.30am,

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by drip, drips, drips, you know.

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I just couldn't figure out where the drips were coming from.

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I had to wake my husband up

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and we put the light on and noticed that it was coming from the ceiling.

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It was raining in my room.

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We didn't know what to do, who to call, it was 2am.

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'Edna had to move fast to minimise the damage.'

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I had buckets,

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bowls, pans everywhere.

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My bedroom, the hallway

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and my sitting room. It was raining.

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We couldn't sleep. I don't know how morning came, but it came.

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And first thing I did was I was on the phone to my insurance company.

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'It turned out that that boiler tank in the loft was leaking,

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'dripping through the ceiling.'

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'But as Edna had home and contents insurance,

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'she was confident that all would be resolved relatively quickly.'

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When you own a property,

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it's paramount that you have... you have your policies right.

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Peace of mind, safety measures -

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we know that things are very expensive,

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so it's good when you have things in place,

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then you don't have to worry, you know that you're protected.

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'At first, it did seem that Edna's prudence was paying off.'

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I rang the insurance company

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and they sent their men out to establish the facts.

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There was a ring in the hot-water tank that snapped

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and that caused an overflow.

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Hence the leak.

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Now, in order for me to control the leak,

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we had to start running water.

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'The boiler-breakdown company told Edna to drain the leaking tank,

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'so the family had to manage without heating or hot water in November!'

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'The only source of hot water was an electric shower downstairs.'

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It was upsetting. It was frustrating for myself and my husband.

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'Edna's insurers said they were willing to pay Edna £1,171

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'to fix the damage caused by the leak to the ceiling and the floors.'

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'They usually offer a choice between them finding someone to do the work

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'or giving customers the money to get it sorted out themselves.'

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'The company is confident that Edna was given both options,

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'although Edna says she wasn't.'

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'Either way, the claim was settled with a cash payment,

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'leaving Edna to get the damage repaired.'

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'But before she could start on the ceiling, the tank needed fixing

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'and there was a problem with that -

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'her water tank was lined with asbestos.'

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'It would have to be completely replaced

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'and repairs to the water tank were not covered in her home insurance.'

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'Edna would have to find a specialist in that sort of thing

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'at her own expense.'

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I never knew that we had asbestos in the hot-water tank

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and that came as a shock.

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We were asked to get a private... company

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to come and remove the tank.

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'By now, it had been five weeks since the initial leak.'

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'Edna felt her insurance company should help with the tank's repair

0:33:460:33:50

'and had taken her case to the ombudsman.'

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'But before a decision could be made, disaster struck.'

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'Despite her efforts to minimise the use of the boiler,

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'the tank continued leaking and the pressure of the water on the ceiling

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'had got so great that it finally gave way.'

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It felt like a loud noise -

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the whole house was in dismay.

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Things damaged,

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my husband's clothes,

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bed sheets ruined...

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I can't find the right word to describe the unpleasantness.

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It was... It was hell.

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It was a nightmare.

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'This time, the damage was extensive,

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'affecting the loft, two bedrooms and two rooms on the ground floor.'

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'Edna got on the phone to her insurers - again -

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'to tell them about the incident and she was relieved when they told her

0:34:450:34:49

'they would give her an additional £2,700

0:34:490:34:52

'to repair the latest damage.'

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They were very prompt and I must compliment them for that.

0:34:550:34:59

They came promptly to assess the damage.

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I'm not a builder, so I thought that was a reasonable offer.

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And it kind of reassured me

0:35:070:35:09

because they were so confident.

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'But Edna's relief was short-lived.'

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'Because they'd given her a cash settlement for the first claim,

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'her insurer assumed she'd want the same with the second,

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'so it was down to Edna to find a builder who could fix the damage

0:35:210:35:25

'for the amount the insurers had said they'd be willing to pay.'

0:35:250:35:28

'Edna didn't want to find someone - she wanted her insurer to do it

0:35:280:35:32

'and she asked them to reconsider, but the company refused.'

0:35:320:35:36

'And they were entitled to do so.'

0:35:360:35:38

'Edna had not realised that, under the terms of her policy,

0:35:380:35:41

'her insurer was not obliged

0:35:410:35:43

'to identify or organise anyone to do the job for her.'

0:35:430:35:47

'In fact, it's common practice

0:35:470:35:50

'for companies to offer cash to settle claims.'

0:35:500:35:54

'But although her insurer has paid out on both of her claims,

0:35:540:35:57

'Edna still feels disappointed and confused.'

0:35:570:36:00

'She hadn't realised that her water tank was not covered by her policy

0:36:000:36:05

'or that SHE would have to find the contractors to repair the damage.'

0:36:050:36:09

'But, as all of these exclusions were stated in Edna's policy,

0:36:090:36:13

'there is little she can do.'

0:36:130:36:15

'In the meantime, as she hasn't yet found anyone to do the job for her,

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'the hole in her ceiling and the damage still remains.'

0:36:190:36:23

So you can see the impact of the damage.

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This is very, very awful.

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'The leaks have left their mark in the kitchen as well.'

0:36:280:36:31

There's the impact.

0:36:310:36:34

In December, January, the whole ceiling was discoloured

0:36:340:36:39

and it's drying now,

0:36:390:36:42

but you can see traces.

0:36:420:36:44

You can see how bad it was.

0:36:440:36:46

I just want my home back.

0:36:460:36:49

That's all I want - my home back.

0:36:490:36:52

'Edna's insurance company told us that they...'

0:36:530:36:56

'But, to be fair to all of their customers...'

0:37:000:37:03

'In this situation, they're...'

0:37:090:37:11

'..where the damage is covered under Edna's policy.'

0:37:130:37:16

'But this does not extend to making further payments

0:37:160:37:19

'or arranging for contractors to do the repairs that are not covered.'

0:37:190:37:23

'They say...'

0:37:230:37:25

'..who have provided a reasonable estimate to do all of the work

0:37:270:37:31

'within the cash payments that she will receive,...'

0:37:310:37:34

'Edna's situation is a reminder that, with any insurance,

0:37:380:37:42

'you need to double-check you're happy with what you're covered for

0:37:420:37:45

'and what exclusions there might be before you have to make a claim

0:37:450:37:49

'so you can be sure you'll get the cover you expect.'

0:37:490:37:53

'Edna's insurer has given her a payment of £200

0:37:530:37:56

'in recognition of the inconvenience that she's experienced,

0:37:560:37:59

'but she remains unhappy with the way her claim has been handled.'

0:37:590:38:03

It's disappointing. I'm very disappointed.

0:38:030:38:06

'Every day, UK insurance companies pay out £108 million in claims

0:38:130:38:18

'on everything from home contents to life insurance

0:38:180:38:21

'and cancelled holidays to stolen computers.'

0:38:210:38:24

'That may sound like a lot, but even the insurers themselves

0:38:240:38:27

'believe they're becoming stricter when it comes to paying out

0:38:270:38:30

'and complaints about insurers not paying are on the up.'

0:38:300:38:34

I had an accident many years ago on a pushbike

0:38:350:38:38

and I'd had insurance for if you have an accident

0:38:380:38:41

and I had one on a credit card and another insurance

0:38:410:38:44

and didn't pay off for either.

0:38:440:38:47

They paid out the right amount, but I had to go through court

0:38:470:38:52

to prove that I'd actually had it stolen,

0:38:520:38:55

erm, and it was quite a gruelling... a gruelling interview.

0:38:550:39:00

They owed me some money and it took me six months to get the money back.

0:39:000:39:04

Most insurance companies, they promise you the earth,

0:39:040:39:08

then, when you try and get the earth, you don't even get gravel.

0:39:080:39:11

So if you want an insurance policy

0:39:110:39:14

and you don't want to fall foul of the small print or rules,

0:39:140:39:18

what should you look out for?

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The first thing is to shop around.

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Insurance policies vary really widely,

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so get one that's right for you.

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If you want household insurance,

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make sure the policy will pay out to find the root of a problem

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and not just to repair the damage.

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If you have a flood in the kitchen,

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it could be expensive to rip up the floor or take out the units.

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And check what the insurer will ask for in terms of evidence

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because some insurance companies set the bar higher than others.

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One company may expect you to keep receipts of everything you own

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and another may expect you to file a police report,

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even if something's been lost rather than stolen on holiday.

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It could make a claim much harder if you choose the wrong policy.

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Well, while it my feel harder to make a claim,

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because of a change in the law,

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the odds are stacked in favour of the consumer

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and not the insurance company.

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Up until earlier this year,

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it was your responsibility to tell an insurer anything they should know

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and if you didn't disclose something relevant,

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they could turn down your claim.

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But now insurers must ask you specific questions.

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If there's something they want to know, they must ask you

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and if they don't, they can't refuse your claim.

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But insurance isn't a one-way street.

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It's crucial you are honest in what you tell your insurance company,

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that you read the small print and that you stick to the rules

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because that could make all the difference

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between getting the payout you need and having your claim rejected.

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'At Rip-Off Britain, we're always keen to hear more of your stories.'

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'And we're particularly interested in ones to do with food

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'for a new series next year.'

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'Confused by all those different labels on the supermarket shelves?'

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'Worried that products described as "healthy"

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'may be nothing of the kind?'

0:41:190:41:21

'Whatever's worrying you about the things we put on our plates,

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'you can write to us at...'

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'Or send us an e-mail to...'

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'The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your story.'

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We've been hearing today about situations

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where your insurance hasn't worked out the way you expected.

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But it is rather good to be able to report that it's not all bad news.

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For years, we've been talking about the sky-high cost of car insurance.

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So it's great to see that the cost of that, in particular,

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has been falling in recent months.

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That has to be good news.

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But while premiums are still a lot higher than they were six years ago,

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it's fantastic to see them finally coming down

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and at a record rate, according to the AA.

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Perhaps some of the other areas where you've told us you think

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that your insurance is too expensive may be next on the list.

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That's all we have time for today, but do keep your stories coming,

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about not just insurance, but anything you spend your money on.

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We'll be back to investigate more of them very soon.

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Thanks for joining us today. From all of us, bye-bye.

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Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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