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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
People should expect more | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
for when they're paying for something these days. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Everything you buy, I just think we're getting ripped off. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
We have to rely on them giving you a fair price for something. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
You can't always rely on that. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You don't want more hassle. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
You want them to honour their agreement with you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
And when you've lost out but no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
That is disgusting! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
we're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
the programme that really likes to make sure | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
that whatever you're buying, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
you really are getting it at a fair price. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
After all, there's nothing that any of us hate more | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
than feeling we've been ripped off | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
when we get to the till or when a big bill comes through the post. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
And in fact, that's what all the stories | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
in today's programme are about - those moments that make you wonder | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
whether what you've paid for really was worth it. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Which is absolutely infuriating. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
But as we'll see, there are some cases | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
where the product you're buying is not cheaper elsewhere. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
So if you've ever felt you paid over the odds, you're not alone. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
And today we're after answers from some of the companies | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
that you've told us about, whom you think are charging just too much. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
In some cases, not even delivering | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
what you're paying for in the first place. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Coming up, as we test out an expensive new way | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
to tackle cold calls, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
we meet the sons desperate to protect their father | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
from being persuaded into buying overpriced products | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
he just doesn't need. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
Makes me feel really bad. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
I mean, there's my father, he's getting on in life | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
and now needs protecting | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and there's people out there trying to rip off his money. I'm disgusted. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
And it may well be called the beautiful game, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
but we'll reveal which football clubs tops the league | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
for the not so pretty prices you'll be paying for wearing their colours. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
It might cost me 50, 60, 70 quid to buy that shirt, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
but if you're having to do that each season, it's going to become | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
incredibly hefty on the pocket. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
Whether it's a cold call on your phone, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
an enthusiastic approach from someone in the street, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
or indeed a knock at your front door, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
there's absolutely no shortage of all those eager sales people | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
trying to grab our attention with the promise of irresistible deals. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
We all have our own ways, of course, of dealing with them. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Mine is usually a polite, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
"No, thank you. I'm making dinner," before I hang up the phone. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
But there are those who find it more difficult to say no, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
and there are particular concerns that people with Alzheimer's | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
or forms of dementia can find themselves | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
spending hundreds or even thousands of pounds | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
without fully appreciating what has actually been agreed. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Alan Partridge is 84. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
No, not that one. This one. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Ahh! | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Our Alan Partridge has put sharing a name | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
with a fictional comedy character to good use, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
taking part in skits and spoofs in local papers | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
to raise money for charity. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
And long before that Alan Partridge was even a twinkle | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
in comedian Steve Coogan's eye, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
this one led a successful career as a physicist. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
You went in to science because you were learning... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
You were learning new techniques. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Sadly now, Alan's been diagnosed with dementia, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
prompting his sons, Jim and Luke, to keep a closer eye on him. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
He's mainly coherent, isn't he? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
Just sometimes his memory's going, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and it's not like he's stupid or anything, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
it's just he gets forgetful. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Dad has trouble evaluating whether something is a risk now, doesn't he? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
-Yeah. He never used to. -He never used to. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
He is a really bright guy, but he no longer can make | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
those sort of decisions and protect himself. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-He can be led easily. -Yeah, that's right. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
And that's what Jim and Luke fear might have happened | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
in January, 2014, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
when Alan answered a cold-call | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
which resulted in a salesman coming round to his house. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
His memory of the subsequent sales pitch isn't too clear. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
But it ended with Alan agreeing | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
to have two air conditioning units installed. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
He signed up to pay instalments totalling £7,745. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
And when Jim and Luke found out what he paid, they were horrified. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
So did you understand how much it was going to cost you | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
-right from the start? -Not really, no. -Cos I know you... | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Do you remember the original cheque you wrote for them? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-How much that was for? -Not offhand. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
The next thing was they were coming round with the actual heaters. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
And that's when they asked you for the balance, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
-which was £5,000, was it? -Something like that. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
The cheque for the deposit had been cashed, but Jim and Luke | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
were able to stop any later payments going out of Alan's account. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
They believe that the salesman talked their dad | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
into buying air conditioning units that he simply didn't need | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
at hugely inflated prices. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
But Alan's memory of what he was promised isn't clear. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
It wasn't till, you know... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
..the ultimate requests for additional money came | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
that it suddenly shook me... Stopped me... | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
-Stopped you in your tracks, didn't it? -Yeah, that's right. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Alan's family say the air conditioning units | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Alan had installed aren't the first things | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
that he's bought from cold callers. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Jim and Luke believe he finds it hard to say no | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
to someone on his doorstep, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
but they still want him to hold on to the independence he has | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
living on his own. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
So they're installing a CCTV system so he can see | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
exactly who's ringing the bell | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
before deciding whether or not to let them in. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Makes me feel really bad. I mean, there's my father, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
he's getting on in life and now needs protecting | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
and there's people out there trying to rip off his money. I'm disgusted. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
The company who sold Alan his two air conditioning units wanted him | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
to pay not far off £8,000 to buy and install them. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
So we've shopped around to see how much other businesses | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
would typically charge for the same two units. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
And even the most expensive quote we were given | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
was over £4,000 less than Alan was asked for. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
After Jim and Luke had stopped any further payments, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
they asked their solicitor to write to the sales firm | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
explaining that the price they were charging Alan | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
seemed grossly inflated. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
They also asked for the contract to be rescinded, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
the units to be removed, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
and for Alan's £2,000 deposit to be refunded in full. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
To me, it seems almost criminal | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-to take advantage of someone that's vulnerable. -Yeah. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
When we spoke to the sales company, they told us that at the time, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
they believed the installation had been "completed satisfactorily", | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
as Alan hadn't let them know that he was unhappy, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
nor were they aware he had dementia, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
telling us he didn't display any signs of it whatsoever. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
The company also rejected criticism of the price, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
saying their own costs would have been approximately £5,000 - £6,000 | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
taking into account the various commissions, charges, and overheads. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
They believe they would have a good case to begin legal proceedings | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
to recover the unpaid balance, but have decided not to do so | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
in light of "the possibility that Alan may suffer | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
"from some form of dementia". | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
Instead, they have refunded Alan's deposit, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
written off all the other charges, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
and will allow him to keep the system for free. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Of course, it's not always easy for door-to-door sellers | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
to judge whether a potential customer is in a fit state | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
to make an informed decision. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
But the issue of vulnerable people being sold | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
and particularly mis-sold something on their doorstep | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
is a concern for the government. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
It's not just immoral, it's illegal. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
And it's really important that we do everything we can to drive them | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
out of the business so that just legitimate traders are left | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
and that vulnerable people are protected as much as we can. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Thanks to a new EU directive, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
even if you have signed on the dotted line, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
you can now still pull out of doorstep purchases within 14 days. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
And our own government is increasing the amount of time | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
consumers can cancel a contract and receive a full refund | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
after they think they've been mis-sold something. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
So we're extending to 90 days the length of time they have | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
to take action against the tradesmen, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
which gives them three months, which should hopefully | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
be long enough to help most people be able to take action | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
before they have to go down the court route. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
For Jim and Luke, though, these measures simply don't go far enough. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
I think door-to-door, definitely they should ban it. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I think if we belong in a modern society | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
where there's an increasing number of elderly and vulnerable people, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
we owe it to them to create a system whereby they're protected | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
and we should all take responsibility for the elderly | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
and not let them be vulnerable... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
or exploited by people that are deliberately | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
trying to take their money. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Next, a phrase to chill the blood - cold calls. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
We've all had them and most of us hate them. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Now, we've often mentioned the official free service, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
which is designed to try and cut down on the number | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
of unwanted calls that you receive, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
but this year you've been telling us about other ways to stop cold calls. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
But these ones cost money, and as you can probably guess | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
by the fact we've been getting complaints about them, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
they don't always do what you hoped for. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
On top of that, though, and this is what really takes the biscuit, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
the way you may be contacted to sign up with the service is, yes, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
you've guessed it, an unsolicited call. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
In other words, it's a cold call | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
that promises to stop your cold-calls. Lovely. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
So what do you get in return for your money? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It's something most of us have experienced at one time or another. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
This is a once in a lifetime deal. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Eight out of ten homes with a landline were cold called in 2013, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
and one in ten had more than 20 calls a month. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
Crossword enthusiast Mavis Chattle from Sheffield is plagued by them. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:25 | |
I get a lot of cold calls, sometimes two or three times a day. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
People try to sell me all sorts of stuff | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
PHONE RINGS and it's just a perishing nuisance. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
You've got to stop what you're doing, answer the telephone. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
But it is upsetting. It is annoying. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
But Mavis has tried to put an end to the cold calls. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Like more than 20 million others, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
she's registered with the Telephone Preference Service, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
set up to stop unsolicited calls. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
In fact, it's illegal for companies to cold call anyone | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
who's registered with the service. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
But it doesn't always work. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Even the people behind the Telephone Preference Service | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
admit they can't stop every call, something Mavis knows only too well. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
So when she was called out of the blue by a company | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
with a very similar name, the Telecom Protection Service, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
who claimed that they could stop all her nuisance calls | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
for just a small fee, Mavis jumped at the chance. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
I've been on this list for goodness knows how many years | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
and they're still phoning me up. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
And you think, "Well, OK, if it costs me, £9.99 to stop it... | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
"I'll pay it." | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
But Mavis' optimism was short lived. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Well, as soon as I put the phone down, my husband said, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
"That's not right. That's a con." | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
So I tried phoning them back on the telephone number | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
that they'd given me, and they said there was no such number. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
So I phoned my bank | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
and within two telephone calls, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
£79.99 had been taken out of my account. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
This was very different to what Mavis thought she'd agreed to - | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
a one-off payment of £9.99 to stop all cold calls, for good. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
I was thinking I was an idiot. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
But also, that this shouldn't have been allowed to happen | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
in the first place. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
Unsure what to do next, Mavis asked her daughter, Laura, for help. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
When I heard what had happened, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
at first, I was really concerned about giving over bank details | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
on the phone to a company we didn't know. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
I'd never heard of them before. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Not expecting to see anything for the money she'd paid the company, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Mavis was surprised when, a few days later, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
the Telecom Protection Service sent her a parcel | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
containing a small white plastic box. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
But she was baffled as to what it was actually for. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Laura suspected the box was designed to block unwanted calls. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
But as Mavis didn't recall any such thing being mentioned on the phone, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
she sent the box back and asked for a refund. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
But then nothing happened. I kept having to phone. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I kept having to ring them up and see what was happening. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
I spoke to the manager. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
He said that the box hadn't been returned, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
that it had not arrived, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
and he gave me a run around on the phone, really. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
There was no way she was going to get a refund. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Mavis doesn't know much about the Telecom Protection Service. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
After all, they contacted her, not the other way around. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
So we've been doing a bit of digging into the company on her behalf | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and found that their website makes some pretty bold claims. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
They describe themselves as being an added value service | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
to the Telephone Preference Service, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
the free service that Mavis' number was already registered with. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
The website makes some strong statements | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
about where the official Telephone Preference Service fails | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
and where their own Telecom Protection Service comes in. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
They say they're committed to fully stopping all UK cold calls | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and reducing calls from overseas, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
but that the free Telephone Preference Service isn't. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
We wanted to get our hands on one of these mysterious white boxes | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
to see just what they can do. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
But Mavis had sent hers back when she asked for a refund. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
So we asked another viewer who'd contacted us | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
with a similar complaint. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Peter, from Powys, agreed to submit his box | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
to the scrutiny of our tech expert, David McClelland. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
The instructions provided in the box tell you how to install it | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and how to plug the cables in, but they don't tell you | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
how to configure it, and for that, I had to go online | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
and hunt for them myself. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
And when I did find them, they're still pretty complex. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
It seems the box is a legitimate call blocker, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
but there's a lot of work for David to carry out | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
before it will actually start doing its job. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
And even then, it can only stop calls from a nuisance number | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
after the first time you've had one. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
Because of how the box works, you need to receive a nuisance call | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
in order to then block them. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
And that's a problem | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
because a lot of nuisance callers know | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
how these call-blocking devices work, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
they know that people try to remember these numbers | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
so they will change the number that they're calling from. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
So really it's a moving target. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
It's a cat and mouse game if you like, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
with you blocking certain numbers and the nuisance callers | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
using different numbers, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
still to carry on giving you these nuisance calls. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Still, the box does appear to have some useful features. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
The call-blocker also lets you block any incoming calls | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
from withheld, private, or international numbers. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Now that might sound like a good idea, but sometimes you get | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
good calls from withheld numbers. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
For example, from doctors or from local council, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
or from companies that you might want to hear from. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
In any case, that, along with some of the box's other functions, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
are services that you can usually get from your phone provider | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
for a small fee, typically under £5 a month. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
And even if you did want a box that does the same, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
you don't have to fork out £80 for it. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Having a look online, I can see that the box is available | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
from other retailers for really a fraction of that cost. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
We put all this to the Telecom Protection Service, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
but so far they haven't replied to any of our questions. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
But with other companies selling similar products | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
and making the same sort of claims, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
we asked the official Telephone Preference Service | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
what they make of all the businesses promising they can do better. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
There's quite a range | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
of organisations that are out there | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
claiming to help people deal with the issue of nuisance calls. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
On one end of things, we've got companies that will charge you a fee | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
to put your name on a list, similar to TPS, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
and then they claim to distribute that list amongst call centres | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
around the world so that you won't get called anymore. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
At the other end of the spectrum, you've got organisations | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
that are basically just a complete scam. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
They'll call you up and they may even claim to be from the TPS, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
BT, or another telecoms provider, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
and they will just want your credit card details, take some money, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
and you'll never hear from them again. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
So why can't the TPS ensure that once you've signed up, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
you won't receive any further cold calls? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
The important thing to remember about TPS | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
is that it's not a call-blocking system. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
So it does rely on companies obeying the law | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and following the correct legislation. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
But there are always companies out there | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
that are willing to ignore the law. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
With that in mind, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
David has plenty of tips to help avoid unwanted calls. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Try not to give out your number when you don't have to, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
particularly when filling in forms on paper or online | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
because sometimes these numbers can make it into the wrong hands, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
and that's where some of these marketing calls do come from. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Screening calls is actually a very efficient way | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
of managing nuisance calls, either using a call blocker | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
or even a simple answering machine. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
Fact is, if it's friends or family that want to speak to you, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
they will leave you a message. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
If it's a marketing company, they probably won't. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
And as a last resort, if you've tried everything else | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
and you're still being deluged by these nuisance calls, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
consider changing your number. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Speak to your service provider and ask them for a non-recycled number. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
Meanwhile, because Mavis paid her money | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
to the Telecom Protection Service with her bank card, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
she has been able to get her money back from her bank. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Even so, the whole experience has made Laura worry about her mother | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
receiving more cold calls. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
I'm concerned about her getting calls in the future | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
because they talked her into giving her bank details out to them, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
which she knows not to do. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
But they talk to you in such a way, they convince you that it's safe. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I mean, most of the time now she's just putting the phone down | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
if she doesn't know the person on the other end, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
and I think that's the safest thing to do if you get these calls. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain - the customers who all say | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
they didn't get the phone and broadband deal | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
the same company promised them. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
Can we sort everything out? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
I was very distressed and fraught. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
And to be honest, I felt a bit bamboozled. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
For one weekend in summer, we brought our team of experts | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
to the West Midlands with our Rip-Off Britain Pop Up Shop. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Not only were we giving out advice inside the shop, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
but outside, we ran plenty of workshops | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
absolutely packed with information | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
to answer the consumer queries we hear the most. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Come and join us because we're going to tell you all about credit ratings! | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Financial expert Sarah Pennells had lots of facts and tips | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
on how and why you should check your credit file. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
So there are three credit reference agencies | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
called Experian, Equifax, and Call Credit, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and they get fed in information every month | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
from all the companies that supply credit. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
They will then compile that information, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
and that's why it's so important for you | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
to make sure the information is correct. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
So your credit report... You can get hold of that directly | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
from the credit reference agencies. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Does it cost you anything or is it just a phone call? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Unfortunately, it does cost you. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
-It'll cost you £2 a time from each company. -That's not too much. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
I think it's £6 really well spent | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
and I would recommend that you go to each of the companies. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
What you'll actually see for £2 is your credit file | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
and that shows you exactly what the companies will see | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
when they're assessing whether you're a good or bad credit risk. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Have you ever thought of checking your credit rating, sir? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
No, I've never done it and I'm an accountant, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
so you'd think I would, but I've never done it. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
But I've got plenty of clients | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
who've had adverse credit ratings that isn't their fault. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
If they've missed a payment, then moved house, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
then it's a very small amount | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
outstanding on a phone bill or something. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
And just one missed bill, as you say, you've moved house | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
or are on holiday, and it can make a huge difference. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
This year we were really struck by how many of you came in | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
with problems to do with those cold-call blocking devices | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
we saw earlier in the programme. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
It seems clear a lot of you | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
aren't sure what you're getting for your money. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
-Are you Gilbert? -I'm Gilbert. -Hi Gilbert, I'm Gloria. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Gilbert Tunley is just one of the people who got a cold call | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
persuading him to buy one. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
But he hasn't found it easy to set up. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
So he's brought it to show technology expert, David McClelland, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
who by now is familiar with how they're supposed to work. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
I wrote a letter back and said, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
"I'm sorry this isn't what I want at all. Could I, er... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
"I want to return it. If you've taken any money, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
"could I have a refund of any money you may have taken?" | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
A week later, they sent this letter which said | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
that I was outside a three-week cooling-off period. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
I must admit, I didn't know about that. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Then I looked at how much they wanted overall, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
they want me to pay them £119.95. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
I don't want that. I can't afford it! | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Yes. So really your purpose here today | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
is to warn other people about this device. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Cold calls are a nuisance and they are a fact. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
We get them whether we like it or not, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
so it's a question of how we deal with those. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
This little box that they've sold to you... | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
They actually kind of do work, but they are not straightforward. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
The fact is, you can buy these online for not very much money. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
The other thing is, what are they actually selling you? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
They're selling you this box, which we can pick up online | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
for about £30, they're opting you out of the official register, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
that's the TPS, that's the Telephone Preference Service. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
The key thing is that is a free service. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
The idea behind that is that your number | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
goes onto an official register and any marketing companies | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
that follow by the official rules will therefore not call you. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
Really they're taking a £80-90 premium | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
just for the privilege of them having phoned you up | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
and offering some telephone support. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
And when it doesn't work, it's an even bigger rip off. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So what I would suggest is that you put a letter stating | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
this is what's happened. I do not want to be part of this anymore. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
I am returning, recorded delivery, the goods back to you. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
I don't expect to hear anymore of this situation. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
While the excitement of the World Cup has long since faded, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
the frustration felt by many families who were pestered | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
into shelling out £90 for the latest | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
official England football shirt probably hasn't. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
You know, we get a steady stream of complaints about just how much | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
it costs these days to show support for your favourite football team. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
And, whilst of course, no-one is actually forcing you | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
into buying a shirt, with so many clubs now changing their kit | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
pretty much every season, even the most die-hard fans can see | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
that their loyalty and their wallets are being severely stretched. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
So we've worked out our very own league table | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
to see which champions of the beautiful game | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
have what some might call the ugliest prices. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
This group of 11 and 12-year-olds near Stockport are football crazy. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
And they're coached by the equally enthusiastic 21-year-old Connor. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
He's a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
and his love of the team goes way back. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
The first game that I can really think of that really stands out | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
was when I was about ten years old. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
And it was a playoff final. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
In this game, a player stepped up to take this penalty. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
He saved this penalty, and the whole stadium goes mental. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
From that moment, I just knew I wanted to be a part of football. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Like many a true fan, Connor wears his love for his team on his chest. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
I had this one when I was about eight or so... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
It's the first goal keeper shirt I ever got. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
And then we get a bit more recent, like this one. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Only a couple of seasons old now. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
This is last season's. Yeah, nice kit. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
I really liked that one | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
so I wanted to buy that one as soon as possible. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
But Connor has found that demonstrating support for his team | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
by buying the latest season's kit comes at a price. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
It shouldn't cost that much to have to follow your team, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
so I tend to wait towards the end of the season, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
where maybe, I don't know, they're about to introduce the new one | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
and it's sort of come down a bit. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
But not all football fans are quite as patient. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
When their team's new shirt comes out, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
many of this lot want it straightaway. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
When the new shirt comes out, I think, "Oh, I want that!" | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
And hope that my mum and dad might buy me it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
When your friends ask you, "Who do you support?" | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
And you say whatever team, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
and then they ask, "Have you got the top?" | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
And then you say, "No, cos it's too expensive," | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
then you're a bit of a laughing stock. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
The kids I coach, definitely, they love the shirts, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
but they're still paying £30, £40 for it. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
Then you've got the full-size adult kit, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
which is another ten pounds on top. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
It's just ridiculous. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
For kids, Manchester United and Manchester City | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
have two of the most expensive shirts. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Their latest junior home strip costs £42, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
and that's just for a short-sleeved shirt. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
But that price is kicked into touch by Chelsea, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
who flog their version for £45. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Add in £20 for the shorts, £12 for the socks, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
and you're up to £77. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Throw in personalised patches and printing and that's another £14. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Making a full, personalised junior Chelsea kit | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
the Russian billionaire-friendly price of £91. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
My mum and dad says that, like, it's a rip off | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
because it's dead cheap material and I get it dirty really fast. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
At least mum and dad are only paying the kids prices | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
because, as Connor points out, the adult ones cost even more. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
So who's offside when it comes to their shirt prices? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Let's kick off the Rip-Off Costly Kit League. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
This should be just like when I used to announce | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
the football scores on the news. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
In joint fifth place are all these teams with shirts costing £45. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Three pounds more, in fourth place - Aston Villa, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
with their jersey coming in at £48. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Hotly pursued in joint third place | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
are Liverpool, West Ham, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
and Blackburn Rovers, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
whose shirts all sell at £49.99. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Just a penny behind, in joint second place are | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Tottenham, Southampton, Everton and Arsenal, whose shirts sell at £50. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
But topping the league with their shirts costing a cool £55, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
once again, Chelsea, along with the local rivals Manchester United | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
and Manchester City. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
It all leaves many regular fans like Connor fuming. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
He'd have to shell out £42 for the latest kit for his beloved Wolves, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
despite them being a league below our table toppers. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Former England player, Dion Dublin, agrees with those who say | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
that the prices charged are just too high. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
When I was a player, if somebody asked me for a signed shirt, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
I would ask the football club, can I keep this shirt I've played in, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
sign it and give it to them. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
Now I'm retired, I get letters saying, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
"Can I have a signed Villa shirt or Leicester shirt?" | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
I now have to go and buy that shirt physically myself, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
buy it from the club shop. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
It might cost me £50, £60, £70 to buy that shirt | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
to sign it, to give it to the charity. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
Now, I don't mind that, because it's once in a blue moon, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
but if you're having to do that each season, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
it's going to become incredibly hefty on the pocket. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Perhaps it wouldn't be quite so hefty on the pocket | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
if clubs kept the same shirt for more than one season. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
But with sponsorship contracts | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
and manufacturing deals changing more frequently than in the past, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
many clubs have no difficulty at all finding plenty of reasons | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
to ring in the changes with a brand-new strip every year. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
I understand that they want to change their shirt | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
because sponsors want to change it, there might be a new sponsor. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
I don't think there has to be as many changes as we see | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
at the moment, you know, cos they will lose that ground-level fan. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
And grass roots is where you want your fans to come from. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Our Costly Kit League revealed | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
that the average Premier League shirt costs £48.70. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
So even if just a fraction of the almost 14 million fans | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
who attended Premier League matches | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
last year were to buy one, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:06 | |
these kits feel like a real money-spinner. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
So are football clubs simply profiteering | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
by charging premiership prices? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Rob Wilson is a football finance expert | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
at Sheffield Hallam University, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
and he thinks he's cornered the moment that kit changes | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
became a seasonal affair. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
We used to see kit changes every two to three years. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
I think really around the 2000-2001 mark | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
was where we saw an acceleration, really, in the number of kits | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
that were available. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
Manchester United probably started that trend when they signed up | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
to the deal in 2002-3 with the big American supplier. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
But if you think back to the 1950s, '60s, and even '70s, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
it used to just be the man on the gate through the turnstile | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
paying his four or five pounds to watch his team play | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
and, you know, he might have a scarf. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
Nowadays, everybody needs to be in replica kits, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
everybody needs scarves, everybody needs hats, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and all of that generates significant revenue for football. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
When previously asked if they felt that fans were paying over the odds, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
the FA has said that they avoid any involvement with how its partners | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
set their prices to avoid any risk or implication of price fixing. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
So we contacted the Premier League, who told us that owning a kit | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
is "a fundamental part of supporting" a team, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
and that Premier League kits are sold | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
"at prices that are consistently lower" | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
than those charged by clubs in Europe's other big leagues. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
And when we got in touch with the individual clubs | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
whose kits cost the most, Manchester United told us | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
it "does not set the price of its replica shirts" | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
which are "decided by each retailer". | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Manchester City said its kits | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
"provide the latest innovative performance technology", | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
and pointed out that club members can get them more cheaply. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
And Chelsea, the most expensive in our league table, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
told us its prices are "comparable with those | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
"of other Premier League clubs across all ages and styles" | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
and that taking into account their durability and | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
how often they are worn, "the kits offer fantastic value for money". | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
As for Connor's beloved Wolves, they added that they believe | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
their kit is priced favourably | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
"compared to other clubs of a similar size" | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and they said the price of their junior kit | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
has been frozen for the last 15 years. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
But for all those who still feel costly kits deserve a red card, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
there is of course one very simple thing you can do. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
I think ultimately, for parents, if they're not happy | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
with the price of replica kits, then the simple answer is, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
"Well, don't buy them." | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
If they haven't got people running around in their football clubs, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
in their after school clubs in those replica kits, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
then it's going to damage the longevity of their brand awareness. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
I mean, you've got to be careful not to change it too many times, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
because you'll lose the fan, you'll lose the colour in the crowd. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
If you price the normal fan away from the shirt, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
I think it's worrying times. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
Now, you send us hundreds of letters and e-mails about phone | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
and broadband companies. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
So, which would you think we get the most complaints about? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
BT? TalkTalk? Virgin? Sky? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
In fact, it's none of those. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
The phone and broadband supplier that we hear most about, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
proportionate to the number of customers they've got, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
isn't one of the household names. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
But for a small company, they do seem to be making | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
a lot of customers unhappy. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Unicom made me feel incredibly angry and cheated. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
The contract will cost me many hundreds of pounds. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
I felt like I'd been mis-sold a deal. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
The experiences you've told us about don't quite tally | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
with what telecoms company Unicom promises on its website. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Specialising in supplying phone and broadband to small businesses, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
Unicom says it wants to "provide a high quality service", | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
promising "exceptional value" and, even better, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
that it won't "tolerate any form of mis-selling". | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
But it seems that Unicom doesn't always live up to those promises | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
even that last one about mis-selling, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
because many of the complaints are from customers | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
who believe they were indeed mis-sold their phone | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
or broadband package. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
And that's an area in which Unicom has form. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
In fact, back in 2006, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
they were investigated by the industry regulator Ofcom | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
for exactly that. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
So could they be up to their old tricks again? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
Kerry Hobbs runs a cake company with her mother, Jan, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
where they also run after-school baking classes for children. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
It's a small but successful business where every penny counts, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
so when she was cold-called by Unicom offering a cheap phone | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
and broadband deal, Kerry jumped at the chance. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
She said that they could bring the two services in under £40 a month, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
which at the moment I was paying £40, maybe £44, £45. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Obviously, we're a small business, a new business, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
and we wanted to try and save some money where we could. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Break your egg into there. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
Kerry also decided to switch her home phone and broadband to Unicom, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
because it seemed she could make such good savings. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
The rep dealt with the phone contracts there and then, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
but Kerry says she was told | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
that the broadband would be handled by head office. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Under pressure to get back to work, Kerry signed on the dotted line. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
I was very distressed and fraught. And to be honest, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
I felt a bit bamboozled. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
But I'd signed this contract. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
Worried that she'd rushed into signing, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Kerry tried to examine the paperwork the rep had left behind. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
And while she couldn't find any mention | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
of the price she'd be paying, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
the contract she'd been given included a confirmation | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
that she had received a pricing sheet. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
I was very confused. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
I even rang my mum up and says look, "I don't know what I've done, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
"I don't know if I've done the right thing. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
"We're going to have to have a look at it." | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
But there was nothing there to look at. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Despite her concerns, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
when the phone line switched from her old provider over to Unicom, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
everything appeared to be going to plan. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Until, that is, Kerry tried to use the internet. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
We went on the internet like we do every morning. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
I check me e-mails and any messages that's come through from the website. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
And no internet access. Nothing. It was just blank. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
So we left it a couple of days. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
We thought, "We'll leave it and just wait...just wait and see." | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
And then that's when we started to make the phone calls, wasn't it? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Yep. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Unicom's response took Kerry by surprise. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
She was told the broadband wasn't working | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
because she hadn't signed up for it. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
We were on the understanding | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
that we would get the telephone line and the broadband together. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
But upon receiving a letter, this stated just the broadband | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
and it was saying that we were having to pay another £29.99 per month | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
on top of our telephone charges. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And that was just for the business. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Getting broadband for her home, too, would mean, in total, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Kerry would have to pay an additional £60 a month. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
Once all the costs were taken into account, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Kerry reckoned she'd be paying around £28 more | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
than she had to her previous supplier | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
the supplier Unicom had assured her they would undercut. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
We're a new business and we work to a really tight budget, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
so that would have had a massive effect on us. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
Without the combined phone and broadband package | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
she was convinced she'd signed up to, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
Kerry told Unicom she didn't want to go ahead with the deal. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
But to her horror, the company told her | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
that to end both her home and work contracts, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
she'd have to pay two hefty termination fees of more than £600, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
a total of over £1,200. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Or putting it another way, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
she'd need to sell over 1,200 extra cupcakes. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
At the moment, we're receiving letters saying that | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
we're going to have debt collectors and bailiffs coming round. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Well, if they took things out of here, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
-then the business would go under. -That's the business gone. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
We wouldn't be able to replace them. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
We haven't got the money to replace them. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
-It would leave us up the creek... -Without a paddle. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
-Without a paddle. -Definitely. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
We've spoken to other people who, like Kerry, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
thought they'd signed up for phone and broadband | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
only to discover too late that broadband wasn't included. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
And because it comes down to their word against Unicom's, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
many of those customers ended up in stalemate. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
But when Daniel Campbell from Cambridgeshire | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
found himself in that position, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
he took matters into his own hands to prove he was right. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Just like Kerry, coffee shop owner Daniel switched to Unicom | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
after a cold call offering him a cheaper deal. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
I was looking to save around £500 over the three years | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
that I signed up for them with. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Again, like Kerry, he signed a contract | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
that confirmed he had received the prices on paper. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
However, Daniel denies he ever saw this. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
There were no prices on paper. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
He said that he needs a contract signed and then what will happen | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
is someone will phone me and confirm all the prices over the phone. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
But when that call came, the Unicom rep on the other end of the line | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
was only ready to sign Daniel up for the phone service, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
NOT the broadband. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
I said, "This should be a telecoms and broadband package," | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
and he goes, "Oh, sorry, sir. We will get someone from the broadband team | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
"to give you a ring because if that's what the rep has said, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
"then that's obviously what will happen." | 0:38:46 | 0:38:47 | |
I was expecting the next call to just confirm | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
that the telecoms and broadband had all been sold together. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
But the call didn't come. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
A couple of weeks later, the cafe's internet stopped working, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
and just like Kerry, Daniel discovered | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
that his new Unicom account didn't include broadband. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
To get it would cost an extra £29.99 a month, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
taking his total bill to almost £57, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
more than double the deal he'd been sold by the sales rep. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
He sold me it as a package, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
so it was telephone and broadband, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
and that was £26.99. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
And I made sure that that is the package that I was sold, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
cos I wouldn't be interested in anything else. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Refusing to pay more for a broadband deal | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
he thought he should already be getting, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
Daniel decided to terminate his contract. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
In response, Unicom sent him a bill | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
for over £400 of termination charges. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Daniel didn't see why he should have to pay, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
so he took a different tack. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
He called the rep who'd sold him the package in the first place | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
and secretly recorded the call. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
'You sold me the phone line and the broadband package for £26.99, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
'which was agreed by your manager.' | 0:40:01 | 0:40:02 | |
OVER PHONE: | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
Well, after I had got him | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
to sort of admit that he'd sold me that deal, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
I thought, "Well, that's it. I can send them that. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
"That's probably my golden ticket." | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
Daniel sent the recording to Unicom, who, faced with the evidence, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
waived the hefty termination fees and settled his case. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
So that was good news for Daniel. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
But it still leaves other people who are adamant | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
that what they've ended up with from Unicom | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
isn't what they'd signed up to. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
When we contacted Unicom about the cases we've heard about, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
the company agreed that... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
They said direct sales processes "can sometimes go wrong" | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
and that whilst it's their | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
"responsibility to resolve these problems", | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
they admit that they "have not always done that". | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Unicom has now waived Kerry's termination fees | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
and also given her a sum equivalent to the cancellation fee | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
she paid to her previous supplier to join them. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
What's more, the company has also resolved the complaints | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
of all the other viewers we contacted them about. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
They stressed they're "committed to providing excellent service" | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
and are always looking to improve their processes | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
and the performance of their employees | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
so they "get it wrong less often". | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
While Daniel's own efforts | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
had already resulted in Unicom resolving his case, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
he'll now be very much more wary of tantalising sales pitches. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
Now I'm very cautious of anyone that phones the business | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
trying to offer me some deal or send a rep through. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
and that "great deal" has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
People are buying into this. I did, you know. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
And are they going to be as awkward with them as they were with me? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
Or send us an e-mail to... | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
Well, I think it's true to say that none of us | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
likes paying more than we think we ought to for anything. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
But as we've seen today, it can be even more frustrating | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
if you only handed over cash in the first place | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
because you were told you were getting something | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
for which it really was worth paying that little bit extra. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Sometimes, of course, you really can get a great service | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
at a bargain price. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
But to be sure that the slick sales pitch really lives up to reality, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
do shop around before handing over your money. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
Take the time to compare what other companies are offering, too, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
especially if you're signing up to a lengthy contract. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
It could save you hundreds of pounds, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
not to mention a whole lot of frustration later on. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
You can find plenty more money-saving tips and advice | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
on our website. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
I hope you know it by now, but it is... | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
Also there, of course, you'll find details | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
of how to get in touch with us if you've got your own story | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
about a time you thought you'd really paid over the odds | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
or been locked into an expensive contract | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
you just couldn't get out of. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
But from all of us and the entire team, working away as usual, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
that's it for today. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
-From all of us, bye-bye. -BOTH: Bye-bye. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 |