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We asked YOU to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch.

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There's a lot of blurb written down,

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but in practice, the words are absolutely meaningless.

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I mean, people just can't afford these prices. It's ridiculous.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money.

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And investigate the extra charges that you say are unfair.

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They're in a win-win situation

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and you're in a lose-lose situation.

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If you don't do something about it, I think it's your own fault.

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And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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So whether it's a blatant rip-off, or a genuine mistake...

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We're here to find out why you're out of pocket

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain.

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Now, this is a programme that fights your corner

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when you don't think that you've been fairly treated.

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And we have some corking examples of that on the programme today.

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But in the sort of situations we'll be hearing about,

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what can make things particularly frustrating

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is that however fed up you might feel,

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it doesn't necessarily mean whoever you've been dealing with

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has actually done anything wrong.

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Each of our stories involves some sort of decision

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that the people on the receiving end would say is unreasonable.

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But the companies or official bodies they're up against,

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and they're the kind of organisations all of us might deal with every day,

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would argue that they're completely within their rights

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to take the line that they have,

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even if it means leaving you out of pocket

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or stuck with the long-term repercussions of some you really disagree with.

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So, if you have ever felt aggrieved at having to pay for something

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that you really didn't think you should have,

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some of today's stories really will strike a chord with you,

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especially as frankly anyone of us

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could very easily end up in the same situation.

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So, I hope we're going to have plenty of advice to make sure

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that if the same thing does happen to you,

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you will know exactly what to do next.

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Coming up: why extending or improving your home

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could push your council tax bill through the roof...

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They're basically saying that it is two separate properties,

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which we don't feel it is.

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..how a missing car key

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left this woman thousands of pounds out of pocket,

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when her car was stolen...

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The insurance company said without the spare key,

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they would not pay out the claim.

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..and more on-the-spot advice at our pop-up shop.

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As the saying goes, an Englishman's home is his castle.

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And every year, we spend billions of pounds

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making our homes bigger and better,

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some of us choosing to add an extra room or two,

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by perhaps converting the loft or maybe building above the garage,

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or even transforming downstairs by creating a big extension.

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But whatever the reason,

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the whole point is you're adding to the home you've already got,

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rather than going to all the bother of moving to a new one.

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But, you know, that smart new extension or annexe

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can have an unexpected and very expensive consequence.

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It could mean that as far as the local authority is concerned,

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you are the proud owner of not one, but two houses.

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And if what you thought was just a bit more space

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is classed as an entirely separate property,

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you may find yourself hit with a second council tax bill.

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Martin Strange and his partner Ciaran O'Hagan

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moved to this bungalow in Dorset just before Christmas in 2011.

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Compared to their old house, it has one big advantage

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that instantly convinced them it was right for them...

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..space.

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Not least because of this very versatile bit at the back.

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There's the extension in question, that contains a bedroom,

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en suite facilities and a utility room that we used it for.

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The bungalow had been extended by the previous owners

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ten years before Martin and Ciaran bought it.

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It had passed all building regulations

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but had not been inspected the Valuation Office Agency.

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That's the government body that checks that you're paying the right amount of council tax.

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And when Martin and Ciaran bought the property,

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it prompted the Valuation Office Agency

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to ask if someone could come and have a look.

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After they left, we received a report from them

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and they said that the extension,

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they want to classify that as a separate annexe,

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therefore liable to its own separate council tax.

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The Valuation Office Agency didn't believe

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that the bungalow was just one property.

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They were saying this extension is a self-contained unit,

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it's got its own separate bedroom with en suite facilities,

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they classified the utility space as being a kitchen,

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because there was a sink in there as well,

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and they were saying we could just plug in a microwave, therefore we've got cooking facilities

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and it's also got these patio doors here, as well.

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So they were saying that was an entranceway to the extension.

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So, on top of their existing council tax bill,

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Martin and Ciaran were being told they would have to pay a second one

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just for the extension.

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We just couldn't believe it when that letter came through.

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Because if you look at this property, it's an extension.

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And everyone else, all our friends, family who arrive here,

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they just see it as an extension

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-so, we were absolutely livid, weren't we?

-Yeah, furious.

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In addition to the £1,540 a year that they paid in council tax

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for the rest of the bungalow,

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the extension would cost the couple another £868 a year,

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despite the fact that they only used it as a guest bedroom

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and a utility room.

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Their argument to that was that it's the potential use for that area.

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It doesn't matter what it's being used for at the moment.

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In the two years since,

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Martin and Ciaran have paid almost £2,000 in extra council tax.

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They also tried appealing the decision.

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But when their appeal was unsuccessful,

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they decided the only solution was to fork out even more money

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to convert their property again so that they could convince the

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Valuation Office Agency that their home really is just one dwelling.

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We've taken out the tumble dryer, the washing machine,

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the sink, removed all the power points.

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And we've put a wall in as well.

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By just changing the character of that room,

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the Valuation Office Agency have classed it as just one property now.

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But even that decision in April 2014 had a sting in its tail.

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The Valuation Office Agency raised the council tax band

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of the whole property,

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so Martin and Ciaran are still left paying hundreds of pounds a year

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more than they expected when they first bought the house.

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Now, it's estimated by the government

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that over 24,000 homes in England alone have an annexe.

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So, this extra council taxation

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could really affect an awful lot of people.

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Sue Meyer and Paul Meredith decided to build an extension

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after Sue's mum moved in with them a few years back.

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But as soon as they put the house on the market at the end of 2013,

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the same thing happened to them.

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Along came an extra council tax bill.

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Paul and Sue, maybe we'll just start by demonstrating

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really how you extended the house?

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Yeah, the original house was that section over there which was

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built in the 1960s and we've basically extended it by putting

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two rooms up above which was an old garage.

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So, the downstairs bit was a garage?

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This was a garage which we turned into a living room

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and we basically extended it by putting two rooms above.

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What really is the Valuation Office saying to you?

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They're basically saying that it is two separate properties,

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which we don't feel it is.

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On what grounds?

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On the grounds we all live together.

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There's only one lot of facilities going in, services,

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telephone and as I say, to us, it's just one house.

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Even so, the Valuation Office Agency deemed the extension

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a separate property entirely.

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The extension doesn't include new external entrances

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because both doors at the front were in the original house

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but Paul and Sue have added a bedroom with en-suite,

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converted the garage into a sitting room, and changed the old

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utility room into an overflow kitchen area and breakfast room.

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-So now we're in the new part of the extension.

-That's right.

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And how much are you being charged for effectively two rooms?

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1,230-something pounds.

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-To be precise.

-Yeah.

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So, really, that's a lot of money for just two rooms, isn't it?

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It is, yes.

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When you were getting permission to add on what you have,

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did anybody at any stage ever say that perhaps you were

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opening yourself up to having two council tax bills

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because this could be regarded as two houses?

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No, we weren't informed at all.

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No, all the correspondence we had regarding planning

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from the architects, from the council.

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Nothing was ever mentioned with regard to two separate bandings

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-on this property.

-And did you ever raise the issue yourself?

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No, because we never thought it was relevant

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because we treat it as one house. You know, it's one family home.

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If you have an extension,

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the last thing you'll want is to suddenly find yourself landed

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with an unexpected extra bill, especially years after it was built.

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So we asked planning expert Ian Woodward-Court

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to visit Sue and Paul's house to shed some light on it all.

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If you're just building an extension with an extra bedroom,

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then that's unlikely to start being classed as a true annexe.

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If you put in extra bathrooms and kitchens,

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you start erring towards it being self-contained

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and then the Valuation Agency will get interested.

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But then it brings me to this house

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-because there are no separate utilities.

-Yep.

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The actual facilities were all there originally,

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they just added up and, of course, did add on an extra bathroom,

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so what is the weakness here then in this scenario?

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Having walked around the house earlier,

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I think the real shame is they have...

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It does feel like they've got two separate kitchens,

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if that was just one big kitchen, there might not be an issue here.

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What would you like to see happening?

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Well, what most councils provide now is pre-application advice.

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Unfortunately, I'm not sure many councils at that meeting

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will flag up the issue of council tax.

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Every local authority have their planning policies

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and really all it needs to be is a sentence or two

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in there about the potential for a council tax liability.

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It's not clear how many houses nationwide

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may have been affected in this way.

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But I've come to Sue and Paul's local authority in Hereford

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to see what they can do to make homeowners more aware

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of the risk that this could happen.

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Very good of you to see us. How are you?

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'Tony Johnson is the leader of the council.'

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The main cry seems to be "nobody told us,

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"we didn't know that we might be liable for two tax bills."

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So, surely there must be responsibility

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somewhere in the planning?

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There's no formal requirement placed on us

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to provide such notification, but the point you raised is a very good one.

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And whilst it's not been done in the past, we'd be very happy to

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make sure that in future anybody that applies to this authority

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for an extension or an annexe to the house,

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we will draw to their attention the fact that this application

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could bring with it an additional council tax liability.

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So you're giving us the assurance that will happen in the future?

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Here in Herefordshire it will happen.

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So, that's a really good result for anyone in the area planning

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an extension in the future.

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But I'm afraid it comes too late for Sue and Paul

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who are very disappointed they were not made aware of this in advance.

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We put their case and Martin and Ciaran's

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to the body that checks the level of council tax,

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the Valuation Office Agency or the VOA.

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And they reiterated that in both cases

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the adapted layout of the buildings meant that,

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in the eyes of the law, each had become two separate dwellings.

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And they pointed out

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that when Martin and Ciaran's property was marketed,

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it was actually advertised as having a one bedroom annexe.

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The VOA then went on to explain that they always make their decisions

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based on the physical characteristics of a building,

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rather than whether anybody lives in the extension,

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or whether it has a separate postal address or utilities.

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They told us that if a homeowner disagrees with the decision,

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they can always ask for a review

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and if they're still not happy with the decision,

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there's an independent valuation tribunal which they can go to.

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But there is good news for people like Sue and Paul and anyone else

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who's genuinely using their extension as a granny annexe.

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In April 2014, the law was changed

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so that if you have a family member living in this type of extension

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they could get a 50% reduction to the second council tax bill.

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And if they're over 65, or disabled,

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they will be exempt from paying altogether.

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But if, like Martin and Ciaran,

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your extra space was added just to make your home bigger,

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then there's no such reduction available.

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And while the second round of changes they've made to the property

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has led to their home being classed as just one dwelling again,

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they had no idea that this situation could ever even arise.

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We bought this bungalow on the understanding

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that we were told by both the estate agents and the solicitors

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that it's one property.

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That's what we bought it on and if we had been told otherwise,

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we would've walked away from it.

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Now, here's a question to make you go hot and cold all over.

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Have you ever lost your car keys?

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And do you know for sure where the spare key is,

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or if you even have one at all?

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Well, for one Rip-Off Britain viewer, not having a spare key for her car

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has led to a host of problems that, if she can't sort them out,

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will leave her hugely out of pocket.

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Mention the name Dagenham, East London,

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and there's one particular car brand which will typically spring to mind.

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This is where the line starts at Dagenham.

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Fords call it a carousel,

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a worker's merry-go-round on which the belly of the car is built.

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Nicola Baker is a teacher in the town.

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Normally her attention's taken up with the rigours of marking

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and lesson planning.

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But when her mind does turn to transport, her choice of wheels

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has inevitably been influenced by her home and her dad, Frank.

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He worked at the Dagenham car plant for 35 years,

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so, little wonder that when she bought a car it was a Ford Fiesta.

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Love driving the car, windows down, especially when it was hot,

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being a bright red car it was very easily noticeable

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so, all my friends liked it, as well.

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But then, in the early hours of one morning in May 2013,

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Nicola's pride and joy was stolen from outside her house.

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Her neighbour, Keith, saw it happen.

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What do you remember that morning, Keith?

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4:30, alarm went off, went to the window

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and I saw it pull from there going that way.

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And then they just...

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raced off.

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With no sign of the car, Nicola called her insurer

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One Call Insurance, to report the theft.

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They asked her to send them the logbook,

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a list of things that were left inside the vehicle,

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along with the main key and any other keys she might have.

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Nicola didn't think she had a spare key

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so she just sent everything else off instead.

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While the claim was being processed, Nicola borrowed her parents' car

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just like she had when she was a teenager.

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I thought, "I'll be paid out soon and I'll be able to have a new car."

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But it would turn out that Nicola would be driving her parents' car

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for a lot longer than any of them expected.

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One Call Insurance had told her that she'd either get a new car

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or the value of the car in cash, but they couldn't process the claim

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until the police had sent them their report.

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Months passed and Nicola repeatedly called One Call

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and the police to find out why the report wasn't being sent through.

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I'm ringing up regularly,

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asking to find out what's happening with my claim.

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One week I speak to someone

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and then he's not working there the next week,

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he might have given me some information,

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I'm then told that the information he gave me was incorrect,

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I then speak to someone else the following week.

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Nobody seemed able to explain to Nicola properly

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what was behind the delay.

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Finally, almost five months after the car was stolen,

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One Call received the report.

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I was so thrilled that the police report had arrived

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at the insurance company, I thought, "OK, this is going to be it."

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But a further three and a half months passed

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and One Call still hadn't paid out on Nicola's claims.

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Eventually, they told her why.

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She hadn't returned the spare car key.

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I get a phone call to say without the spare key to the car

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the claim will not be going through.

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I didn't actually remember getting a spare key

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when I bought the car, but when the insurance company spoke to Fords,

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on the log it says that I had two keys.

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Still unsure that she even had a spare key at all,

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Nicola thought that if there was one, it could only be in one place.

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The keys are always kept at Mum and Dad's house in their kitchen

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so I went to the kitchen, took out the key that was in there,

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the only key, that must be the spare key to my car.

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Sent off the spare key to the car thinking, that's that done,

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a bit sooner to getting the money.

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But the insurance company told her that the key she'd sent

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wasn't the spare key for her car

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because it didn't match the main key she'd already sent.

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And to Nicola's utter astonishment,

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for that reason her claim was rejected.

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The insurance company accused her of making a false claim.

0:17:360:17:39

The insurance company have said without the spare key

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and the spare key that I had didn't fit the car,

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they would not pay out the claim for the car.

0:17:450:17:48

Keen to get to the bottom of what could have happened, Nicola asked

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the insurer to send back the key she thought could've been her spare.

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After all, if it wasn't her key,

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it must have been the spare for one of her parents' cars.

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But they didn't return it.

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I asked for the car key back, to have as my property.

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It's not been sent back, so I still haven't got it.

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Nicola can't understand why her insurer hasn't explained

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what they mean by a false claim

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and she says it feels like the finger is being pointed at her.

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I didn't arrange the theft of my own car.

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I've never done anything that's dodgy. I'm not going to start now.

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They don't believe me and that's why they're not paying out.

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So, Nicola is now stuck with no car, and nothing to show for the £10,000

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she spent on it less than two years ago.

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All because she couldn't be sure

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whether she ever had a spare key for the car.

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So, here's a couple of little questions for you to think about.

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Do you remember how many keys came with your car?

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And would you be able to tell me where your spare key is right now?

0:18:480:18:53

Finance expert James Daley believes Nicola's right to feel

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that she's been treated unfairly.

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And he's never before come across a claim being

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turned down for this reason.

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If an insurance company asks you to send a spare key then yes,

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send it to them, but if you've lost it, that is perfectly acceptable,

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you just need to let them know you have lost it.

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That can't be used as evidence that you've made a fraudulent claim

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unless they've got something to back it up with.

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One Call's refusal to pay out

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doesn't just mean Nicola's out of pocket.

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It could also have a serious impact

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on her ability to get car insurance in the future

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as she'd have to declare that she's previously had insurance withdrawn.

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But James thinks there could yet be a solution.

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She needs to write a stern letter to her insurance company and say,

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"Look, my car was stolen.

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"There's no evidence that I was fraudulent here.

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"I accidently sent you the wrong key, as it happens I've lost

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"the spare key. If you don't pay me out immediately

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"I am going to take this claim on to the Financial Ombudsman Service."

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That's a free service, it's independent, and I would be amazed

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if they didn't uphold this case in favour of the customer.

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When we put all that to One Call Insurance on Nicola's behalf,

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they stood by their decision that she does not have a valid claim.

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They told us that they too had advised Nicola to take her complaint

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to the Financial Ombudsman Service but as she hadn't done this,

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they have referred the matter to the Ombudsman themselves.

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And they don't consider it appropriate to comment further

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while they wait for the Ombudsman's decision.

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But while it's good news that the case is being looked at

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by the Ombudsman,

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Nicola still can't quite believe that her predicament boils down to her

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not being sure where she might have put a spare car key.

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First of all it was annoyance,

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annoying how long it had taken for the claim to go through.

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Then it was frustration

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because obviously no-one seemed to want to listen to me.

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The fact that the insurance company have made me feel

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that I've had something to do with this claim.

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For now, Nicola can only dream of the time

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that she can afford her own car again.

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And in the meantime, she'll just have to keep on borrowing her dad's.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain -

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the railway works that have split a community in half,

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and locals say have had a devastating affect

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on their lives and businesses.

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To have this done to us, you know, we've got all that extra expense

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which nobody's going to compensate us for.

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It's just like being ripped off.

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Once again, we've opened up our pop-up shop.

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And, this year, we've come to one of the biggest shopping centres

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in the West Midlands.

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Yes, for one weekend only,

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we've brought our team of experts on the road

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to offer advice on all kinds of things -

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you come along, we'll try to help.

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As Julia says, we've brought along the entire team to make sure

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that we give you all the tools and information that you need

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to ensure that, the next time you hand over your cash,

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you're not ripped off.

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-Hi, how are you?

-Hello.

-Thanks very much for coming.

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'After being told that the vouchers she'd been bought for her birthday

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'were no longer valid, Debra Bate called in

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'to see Trading Standards expert Sylvia Rook.'

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My 40th birthday was last year

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and a group of friends bought me some vouchers for a beauty salon.

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Before I could use them, the salon changed hands

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and the new salon refused to honour the vouchers.

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And I contacted the previous owner

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and they refused to refund the value of the vouchers, either.

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So I'm left with £55 worth of beauty salon vouchers that I can't use.

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What assurance did the previous owner give you

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that the vouchers would actually be valid?

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When I found out that she was selling the business,

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I contacted her and she said

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that it had been agreed in the transfer of the business

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that the new salon would honour the vouchers.

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But, when I went to the salon, they refused to.

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And you didn't have anything in writing to that effect, did you?

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-No.

-No. So what about that, then, Sylvia?

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It's a really sad story,

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and it's one of these stories we get quite a lot,

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where a business has gone bust and a new business takes over

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and it doesn't have to take over liabilities

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of the previous business.

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But the company didn't go bust,

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they just sold that part of the business.

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The business is still going, they're still operating,

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but just not in that shop.

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Well, certainly the original business is in breach of contract.

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The new business doesn't have to honour it.

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It's very unfortunate.

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Unless there was something in writing,

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saying that they would honour vouchers.

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They're a separate legal entity.

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So then you're back to look at the previous owner.

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Because you could argue they're in breach of contract

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and, if they were a present, the person that has to make the claim

0:23:370:23:40

is the person that bought the vouchers.

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And if you find out that somebody's going out of business,

0:23:420:23:45

if they say somebody else will take on the liability,

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don't trust them unless you've got something in writing.

0:23:470:23:50

I think on moral grounds, surely, you go back and say,

0:23:500:23:52

"Look, there is no legal contract for the new owner,

0:23:520:23:55

"but you took the money, I haven't had the treatment..."

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All I want, really, is what's fair,

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and it doesn't seem right that one company can sell vouchers,

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sell the business and then nobody has the responsibility.

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-At least you've got a couple of routes to go.

-Yeah.

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It's always worth trying, because you lose nothing by trying.

0:24:080:24:10

The thing is you look beautiful anyway,

0:24:100:24:12

so you don't need that beauty treatment.

0:24:120:24:14

THEY LAUGH

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'Meanwhile, out in our workshop area,

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'legal expert Gary Rycroft and Julia were busy entertaining the crowds.'

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Music!

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MUSIC: YMCA by Village People

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# It's fun to stay at the YMCA

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# It's fun to stay at the YMCA... #

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'Julia, don't give up the day job!

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'But the hard hats and dance routine

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'were to catch the attention of passing shoppers

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'as Gary dished out tips and advice

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'on how to avoid being ripped off by bogus tradesmen.'

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It's always a good idea

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to have something written down in black and white

0:24:460:24:48

and a good quality tradesmen will be more than happy

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to give you a contract that sets out

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the work that they're going to do for you,

0:24:530:24:55

who's going to be responsible for making good things that go wrong,

0:24:550:24:59

whether they're insured and also when payments are going to be made

0:24:590:25:02

cos, clearly, you want to know when you to have to pay for it.

0:25:020:25:04

Does your home insurance cover if any building work goes wrong

0:25:040:25:07

or does that not count?

0:25:070:25:09

No, it doesn't, because you're asking someone

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to come in and carry out work on your behalf,

0:25:110:25:13

so you really want to know that a builder, plumber has insurance...

0:25:130:25:16

Oh, so they've got to be insured.

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..so that you can pursue them for a claim

0:25:170:25:19

if they do something that causes your property to go down in value.

0:25:190:25:24

'Gary wrapped things up with another quick tip

0:25:250:25:27

'to help if something DOES go wrong.'

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What about things like taking before and after photographs?

0:25:290:25:32

Photos are wonderful.

0:25:320:25:34

It's a really good idea to take before and after photos and videos.

0:25:340:25:37

Nothing's better than keeping track of it as it moves along

0:25:370:25:41

so, if it all goes wrong in the end, and you need to make a claim in law

0:25:410:25:44

in the county court, you've got the evidence that you need

0:25:440:25:47

-to prove your case.

-Good advice.

-Thank you.

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We're all used to hearing complaints about Britain's railways.

0:25:540:25:57

But, for some of the people getting most steamed up

0:25:570:25:59

about our rail network, it's not about delays or fares.

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In fact, they may not have even stepped on a train.

0:26:030:26:05

They're angry about the effect

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that repairs and improvements to the rail service

0:26:070:26:10

have on their homes and businesses -

0:26:100:26:12

work that sometimes begins with very little notice

0:26:120:26:15

and can drag on for weeks.

0:26:150:26:17

Tim Webb's family have lived

0:26:210:26:23

and worked on this farm in Wiltshire for around 60 years.

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Farming to me is very, very important.

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It's a good way of life and I enjoy it a lot

0:26:300:26:32

but, this year, we had something happen

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that was nothing we were ever prepared for.

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In March, the farm faced one of the biggest challenges in its history.

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Network Rail, who run and maintain Britain's railway tracks,

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closed the nearby bridge at Dauntsey Lock.

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This bridge not only links the local villages of Lyneham and Dauntsey,

0:26:480:26:51

it also sits slap bang in the middle of the fields

0:26:510:26:54

that the Webb family work.

0:26:540:26:56

The closure was to allow the line between Bristol and London

0:26:560:26:59

to be electrified, which should result in faster journeys

0:26:590:27:02

when travelling between the two cities.

0:27:020:27:06

At first, even though the works were scheduled to last five months,

0:27:060:27:09

Tim wasn't too worried, as there are three other smaller roads

0:27:090:27:12

to reach the land on the other side of the bridge.

0:27:120:27:16

When they said they were going to shut the bridge, I thought,

0:27:160:27:19

"Oh, yeah, that won't be too bad."

0:27:190:27:20

But, you know, when it did actually happen,

0:27:200:27:23

it was a lot worse than we ever, ever imagined it would be.

0:27:230:27:26

Three weeks after the bridge closure,

0:27:270:27:29

Wiltshire County Council also shut the three alternative routes

0:27:290:27:33

after complaints from residents about the high volume of traffic

0:27:330:27:36

and unsuitable heavy vehicles using them.

0:27:360:27:40

All of which meant that this pretty part of the country

0:27:400:27:43

was suddenly a divided one -

0:27:430:27:44

with what residents say had a catastrophic effect

0:27:440:27:47

on their lives and businesses.

0:27:470:27:50

Tim and his neighbours were forced to make a 20-mile detour

0:27:500:27:53

to get from one side of the bridge to the other.

0:27:530:27:56

The journey used to take Tim a matter of minutes.

0:27:560:27:59

Now, it was taking up to an hour each way.

0:27:590:28:02

With the bridge shut, it takes an extra 20 miles.

0:28:040:28:07

With the tractor only doing 16mph, you know,

0:28:070:28:10

you're talking two hours a day extra to get to where you...

0:28:100:28:12

there and back, so I mean, you know, it's not very good at all.

0:28:120:28:17

And the bridge closure didn't just cost Tim time.

0:28:180:28:21

He also claims he suffered a drop of about 20% in passing trade

0:28:210:28:25

at his farm shop since the closure began in March.

0:28:250:28:29

We're all small, independent businesses.

0:28:290:28:31

You know, we're not multinational companies, we make our own money -

0:28:310:28:35

but to have this done to us, you know,

0:28:350:28:38

we've got all that extra expense

0:28:380:28:39

which nobody's going to compensate us for.

0:28:390:28:42

It's just like being ripped off.

0:28:420:28:44

Other local businesses, while recognising the need for the work,

0:28:440:28:47

say they were disastrously affected, too.

0:28:470:28:50

We're finding it very difficult to do deliveries.

0:28:500:28:53

The 24-mile round detour is horrendous for staffing costs,

0:28:530:28:58

extra fuel, and you cannot pass those costs onto the customer.

0:28:580:29:03

You can't do a bouquet of flowers for £20

0:29:030:29:07

and ask for £15 delivery charges.

0:29:070:29:10

So our business is absorbing all those extra costs

0:29:100:29:14

and we're struggling.

0:29:140:29:15

The difficulties for businesses on both sides of the tracks here

0:29:160:29:20

is part of a much bigger national picture.

0:29:200:29:23

And it's a picture the people here were powerless to halt.

0:29:230:29:26

The works were part of a much-needed upgrade of the country's railways.

0:29:260:29:30

Although the electrification of the network

0:29:300:29:33

has been ongoing for decades,

0:29:330:29:34

the UK still lags behind the rest of Europe

0:29:340:29:37

when it comes to providing a modern rail network.

0:29:370:29:40

Time for nursery, love. Ready?

0:29:400:29:42

But local resident Andy Humm speaks for many

0:29:420:29:45

when he says that, in situations like this,

0:29:450:29:47

where communities are affected in a major way,

0:29:470:29:50

more should be done by Network Rail to help.

0:29:500:29:54

The diversions are really a pain in the neck.

0:29:540:29:57

We've got issues with emergency services, education, buses.

0:29:570:30:03

There's been a lack of thought,

0:30:030:30:05

a lack of consideration to the local community

0:30:050:30:07

in the way that it was managed.

0:30:070:30:10

Andy takes it in turns with his wife to take their granddaughter, Lilly,

0:30:100:30:13

to nursery three times a week.

0:30:130:30:16

They live in Lyneham,

0:30:160:30:17

but the nursery is situated on the Dauntsey side of the tracks.

0:30:170:30:20

So what was an easy journey became an 80-minute round trip.

0:30:200:30:25

That's two journeys, that's obviously 44 miles.

0:30:250:30:29

Three days, you're looking about, on average,

0:30:290:30:31

about another 150 miles per week.

0:30:310:30:33

That's actually working out to be £18 a week,

0:30:330:30:36

which is quite a lot of money

0:30:360:30:37

when you're trying to do the best for your grandchild.

0:30:370:30:41

Locals here feel they've had a pretty raw deal.

0:30:410:30:44

And Network Rail does have an awful lot of freedom

0:30:440:30:46

when it comes to doing work of this sort.

0:30:460:30:49

They're what's known as statutory undertakers.

0:30:490:30:53

That might sound grim,

0:30:530:30:54

but what it actually means is that,

0:30:540:30:56

like energy and communication companies,

0:30:560:30:58

they have special privileges when it comes to development work,

0:30:580:31:02

and can sidestep normal planning regulations and rules.

0:31:020:31:05

If you lose money as a result of negligence

0:31:060:31:09

by a statutory undertaker, you can apply for compensation.

0:31:090:31:12

But individuals aren't eligible

0:31:120:31:14

if they just have to make longer journeys.

0:31:140:31:16

And, for businesses,

0:31:160:31:17

a drop in passing trade doesn't qualify you either.

0:31:170:31:20

So it looks as if these residents will get nothing

0:31:200:31:23

for the inconvenience caused by the bridge closure.

0:31:230:31:27

I feel rather annoyed and upset

0:31:270:31:29

in the fact that we're not benefitting.

0:31:290:31:31

And we've been hit hard.

0:31:310:31:33

Financially, we've been hit hard.

0:31:330:31:35

When we contacted Network Rail,

0:31:360:31:38

they told us that electrifying the Great Western Main Line

0:31:380:31:42

will "improve the journeys of millions of people."

0:31:420:31:45

But, of course, that work can't be done without creating

0:31:450:31:47

"extra clearance for overhead power lines,"

0:31:470:31:50

something that often requires road closures.

0:31:500:31:53

They told us they sympathised with local businesses

0:31:530:31:56

over the reduction in passing trade,

0:31:560:31:58

but that there is, unfortunately,

0:31:580:32:00

"no legal basis for a claim for compensation,"

0:32:000:32:03

and it is "vital for taxpayers"

0:32:030:32:05

that the project is delivered "as efficiently as possible."

0:32:050:32:08

They also said that they

0:32:080:32:10

"worked closely with Wiltshire County Council"

0:32:100:32:12

to plan the work in a way that "caused minimal disruption"

0:32:120:32:16

and they made sure residents "were kept informed throughout."

0:32:160:32:19

But Tim and Andy don't think that residents

0:32:200:32:23

were informed enough about the work.

0:32:230:32:25

For Network Rail, I think lessons need to be learned

0:32:250:32:27

in the fact that they do need to talk

0:32:270:32:30

and involve the community more so than they have done in the past.

0:32:300:32:35

TRAIN HORN

0:32:350:32:37

Well, since we filmed in Dauntsey,

0:32:380:32:40

the bridge has reopened - ahead of schedule!

0:32:400:32:43

So, while they remain annoyed, residents did at least

0:32:430:32:46

get three weeks less disruption than was originally on the cards.

0:32:460:32:50

If you'd like more advice

0:32:570:32:58

on any of the situations we investigate on the programme,

0:32:580:33:01

all you have to do is to log on to our website -

0:33:010:33:04

bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain -

0:33:040:33:08

and there you'll find a huge range of practical information

0:33:080:33:12

on everything from cold calling and how to check a company's credentials

0:33:120:33:16

to warnings on the latest scams to look out for.

0:33:160:33:20

You'll also find hints and tips

0:33:200:33:21

from the experts and workshops at our pop-up shop,

0:33:210:33:25

some of which can really save you money.

0:33:250:33:27

With more cars than ever on British roads,

0:33:310:33:33

keeping the traffic moving

0:33:330:33:35

while also keeping drivers, passengers and pedestrians safe

0:33:350:33:39

is quite a big challenge.

0:33:390:33:41

So playing their part is everything from speed bumps

0:33:410:33:44

and one-way systems to traffic calming and bus lanes.

0:33:440:33:47

They're often monitored by an army of traffic cameras

0:33:470:33:51

that record your number plate and then trigger a system

0:33:510:33:54

that sends a fine directly to your home a few days later.

0:33:540:33:57

Now, if it's a fair cop, then you might just pay the fine,

0:33:570:34:00

chalk it down to experience

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and vow to drive a bit more carefully next time.

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But what happens if you don't think you broke the rules?

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Well, across the country,

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thousands of drivers are in exactly that situation,

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after cameras caught them driving in bus lanes

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that they say they didn't even know were there.

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For hundreds of years, the medieval city of York

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was confined firmly inside the city walls.

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And, although the city has long since spread beyond those walls,

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the heart of town is still crammed into narrow streets and bridges

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that are no wider now than they were when horses and carts pounded them.

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And that makes things tough for York's 200,000 residents.

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Among them, Nigel Rhodes.

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At times, it can become a bit of a nightmare...

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with the congestion.

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Nigel volunteers for a local charity,

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driving elderly people in and out of York city centre.

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But, on one trip in August 2013, he hadn't realised

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that York Council had introduced new rules

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to calm congestion in the city.

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I came straight through the lights at green and proceeded up here,

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just going about my business, never saw no cameras, never saw any signs.

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The council's new rules meant that they would now be responsible

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for enforcing traffic restrictions, rather than North Yorkshire Police,

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and camera enforcement would be used to monitor

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the new bus lanes where Nigel had driven -

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along Coppergate and also around the city's Lendal Bridge -

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to ensure that, during the daytime, only buses and taxis were allowed.

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All other cars were banned.

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But the first Nigel knew about that was a week later,

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when he was sent a £60 fine.

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He insists he couldn't see anything

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to tell drivers that new measures were in place.

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But even now, weeks later, Nigel still thinks the Coppergate cameras

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could catch out drivers who don't know that they're there.

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Like, where that bus is now and that car's behind there,

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how can they see that sign there?

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The driver is on right-hand side and he's right behind that bus.

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And then, when the bus pulls off when he's behind him,

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there's no way as he goes across there

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that he knows that he's not allowed to go into Coppergate.

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The signs ARE there,

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but it may be that, driving along here,

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you wouldn't have spotted them either.

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So, while the restrictions that caught out Nigel are in York,

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there are similar situations happening in towns and cities

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right across the country.

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Because there are plenty of other councils

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who've brought in part-time bus lanes

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as a way of tackling heavy traffic

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and, at the same time, plenty of other drivers who -

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like Nigel - say the new rules have NOT been made clear.

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Motoring lawyer Nick Freeman, famously known as "Mr Loophole",

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says it's crucial that when councils introduce new regulations like this,

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they have enough signs for drivers to spot.

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If there is a serious congestion problem,

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and the council feel that they need to have bus lanes,

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they need to comply with the appropriate provisions

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and appropriate legislation and they need to make sure

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that these bus lanes are properly signed and properly demarked.

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But that isn't always the case.

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And certainly in York, there are lots of drivers

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who'd agree with Nigel that the signs were NOT sufficiently clear.

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The new rules led to 57,000 motorists receiving penalty charges,

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netting the council a total of £1.3 million.

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Even the local tourist board joined in the row,

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raising concerns that unsuspecting tourists were being fined.

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And many drivers, Nigel included,

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felt so strongly about this that they refused to pay

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and took their case to the traffic penalty tribunal -

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a free, independent adjudication process

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that's the final port of call for anyone disputing a parking

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or bus lane penalty that's been issued by their local council.

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The adjudicator agreed with Nigel,

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and others who'd complained at the same time,

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that the signage on Coppergate and Lendal Bridge was NOT adequate.

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And in August 2014, a year after Nigel drove over Lendal Bridge,

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City of York Council made a big decision.

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Just as this programme was being finished, they told us that,

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subject to their normal approval procedures,

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they plan to refund all motorists who were fined

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for driving over Lendal Bridge.

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And they'll open up an application process for people to do that.

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They point out the bridge restrictions

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were only in place for a six-month trial, which has NOT been extended.

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But they say that, on Coppergate,

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while the traffic cameras might have been new,

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the restrictions had been in place for quite some time,

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so the council told us that they intend to challenge

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the Traffic Penalty Review's decision on the signage here.

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But they added that the traffic cameras have since been removed.

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Some believe it can suit local authorities

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to have confusing rules and regulations around bus lanes,

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as those caught out can provide useful funds

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to cash-strapped councils' coffers.

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The reason that Lendal Bridge didn't work

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was because the signage was described,

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on an appeal by a traffic adjudicator, as being inadequate.

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Motorists tend to be law-abiding citizens -

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they're not going to knowingly drive in a bus lane,

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knowing that it's going to be recorded on camera,

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knowing that it's going to cost them hard-earned cash.

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But York isn't the only city where there's been controversy

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over whether the new rules around bus lanes

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have been signposted well enough.

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In fact, it's happened across the country.

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In Birmingham, the Traffic Penalty Tribunal ruled

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that signage was not adequate at a number of city centre bus lanes,

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leading the council to review 18,000 penalties

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but, despite the ruling, they've only refunded 218 drivers.

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In Essex, the county council agreed to repay or cancel

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30,000 fines issued from bus lanes in Colchester.

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And, in Bath, the council refunded 7,200 penalty charge notices,

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totalling more than £200,000,

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after they acknowledged that some motorists found it difficult

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to adjust to the changes and to alter their normal travel patterns.

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It seems that, nationwide, there's a lot of confusion -

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and embarrassment -

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that does nothing to solve the problems that the bus lanes

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were designed for in the first place.

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The whole purpose of having a bus lane

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is not to set a trap to the motorist.

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The purpose, the spirit behind the bus lane

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is to ensure that you have a bus lane for buses to use.

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I think the difficulties that councils have at the moment

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is that they're cash-strapped, and motorists are an easy target -

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they tend to just pay up without question -

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and it fills their urgently-needed coffers, which are empty.

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Nigel is glad that he didn't pay up without question,

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and he thinks more drivers should do as he did

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and appeal any fine they consider unfair and he hopes that,

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thanks to motorists like him appealing their tickets,

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everyone might soon get their money back.

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Well, it was a complete rip-off

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and I just hope the people of York get their money back.

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especially if you can't understand why that decision

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I must say, I did find some of those stories

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rather surprising and extremely interesting.

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But I'm sure we've given you plenty of food for thought

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should you find yourself going through something similar,

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