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We asked YOU to tell us what's left you feeling totally ripped off, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong, and | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
There's a lot of blurb written down, but in practice | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
the words are absolutely meaningless! | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
I mean, people just can't afford these prices, it's ridiculous! | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
and investigate the extra charges that you say are unfair. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
They're in a win-win situation and you're in a lose-lose situation. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
If you don't do something about it, you think it's your own fault. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
We're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
Hello, and thank you for joining us on Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Of course, today, it's a beautiful sunny day | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
but we're talking about a great British obsession. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
Because there's no doubt about it, our green and pleasant land | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
is only so very green because we get a lot of one thing - rain! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
And in recent years we've been getting a lot more of it than | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
we used to, with huge swathes of the country submerged under | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
flood water that's collected after either days upon | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
days of steady downpours or that sudden massive storm. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
And it's when we get more rain than the drains can handle, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
or the ground simply can't cope with so much water, that the | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
damage begins and those who are affected will obviously look | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
to their insurance companies to help foot the bill to put things right. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
But as the people in today's programme, including me, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
I have to say, have found out, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
it's not just the ground that can't always cope with extreme weather. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Yes, the insurance companies themselves can also struggle | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
to cope with the damage that heavy rain causes. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
As a result, as many of you will have noticed, premiums have gone up. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Some people are now finding it hard to get cover at all, and a number | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
of homeowners like our very own Angela here, that one there, have | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
suddenly been told that their properties, which never used to be classed | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
as "at risk" have now been recategorised as being in danger. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
So as we explore some of the fallout of our extreme weather, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
you may well find some unwelcome surprises about the insurance | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
you've got on your home, too. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Coming up - what's more shocking, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
a 20-foot deep hole suddenly appearing in your back garden | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
or the almost equally deep pockets you'll need to repair it? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
It was a horrible time. I was going to bed crying, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
getting up in the morning, looking through the bathroom window, and I | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
can see the hole. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I was just crying. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
And navigating the murky waters of the insurance industry to find | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
out why homeowners nowhere near water are suddenly being told | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
they're at greater risk of flooding. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
Can I just take you to task on that? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
You say that's better for the consumer. No, it's not, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
because that means every insurance company can set their own rules. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Now, of all the disasters we worry about what might | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
affect our homes, the dramatic appearance in the back garden of an | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
enormous 20-foot deep hole probably isn't going to be one of them. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
But that's exactly what happened to Gretel Davidson. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
A huge sinkhole, often linked to heavy rain, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
arrived from absolutely nowhere in the middle of her lawn. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
And while such incidents are still thankfully rare, trying to | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
put things right has thrown up some facts about her insurance | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
that might well surprise you about your own home cover as well. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
When there are kids around, if there's one place you might | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
hope they'd be fairly safe, it's in your back garden. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Potential dangers should be pretty limited. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
And you certainly wouldn't expect the ground to suddenly open up beneath you. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-Are you Gretel? -I'm Gretel. -I'm Gloria. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
But in February 2014, the ground DID suddenly open | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
up in the south-east London garden of Gretel Davidson, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
right next to the trampoline her daughter Maya loves to play on. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:13 | |
-Right, so this is where it all happened, Gretel? -Yeah. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
The trampoline was here, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
and the hole would just be... Hole's just here. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
And then is this is where the hole was, then? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
That's right. We mark it by the fence. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
The fence is slightly dipped. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
So, in actual fact, if Maya had been on the trampoline, the whole thing | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
could have gone right down, couldn't it? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-And this is actually quite uneven still, isn't it, really? -Yeah, it is quite uneven. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-So it's settling a bit? -Yeah, it's | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-settling a bit. -But how did you react when you saw it? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Well, I screamed first of all. I went, "No! Why me?!" | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
And how big was this hole when you saw it for the first time? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Well, I didn't know how deep it was and how wide it was, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
but I had somebody from the council | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
and he said that it's 20-foot deep and eight-foot wide. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
20ft deep?! | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-And eight-foot wide. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Now, while coming home to find a sinkhole in your garden is, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
thank goodness, rare, there was quite a spate of them | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
this particular winter. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
In fact, according to the British Geological Survey, there were | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
18 instances of sinkholes and similar ground collapses reported | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
to them in February 2014, a nine-fold increase | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
in what is regarded as normal. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Sinkholes are a product of erosion in existing underground | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
cavities, and are linked to periods of high rainfall. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
So it is no coincidence that these incidents all | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
followed what the Met Office described as, "One of the most | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
exceptional periods of winter rainfall in at least 248 years." | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
And some geologists predict that as our winters get wetter | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
we're likely to see more of them. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Let's talk to Maya, because she was the very, very first | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
one, your daughter was the first one who saw it. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Yeah, she was. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Maya spotted the hole when she returned home from school | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
and saw it through her bedroom window. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
She immediately rang her mum at work at the local hospital. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
After trying to calm her daughter down, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
Gretel asked for the rest of the day off and headed back to the house. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Meanwhile, Maya followed the natural instinct to take a closer | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
look at what had happened | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
As I walked up, I looked down and there was a massive hole, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and I saw two tunnels. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
And at that point I was just panicking, cos I didn't know what to do. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
-I bet you were scared? -Yeah. I was scared as well, cos when I saw it I had to jump back | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
a little bit because I didn't really want to fall in there. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Just thank God that the weather was bad, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
cos she could have been jumping on the trampoline | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
and who knows what could have happened? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Unsure what to do, Gretel called the council, who visited the house | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
but told her that, because all this had happened on her own property, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
they couldn't help, recommending she got in touch with her insurer. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
So Gretel called her insurance company, Halifax, who next | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
day visited the house to inspect and photograph the hole. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
The insurance company came and said to me, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
"I'm very sorry, but there's nothing we can do about it." | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
On what grounds? | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
It was because it was too far away from the house. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
It hasn't caused the building any damage. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
There's no subsidence or anything like that. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
Halifax confirmed all this in a letter which made | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
clear that the costs of refilling the hole were not | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
covered by her policy, because damage to garden features is excluded | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
if there was no damage caused to the house itself at the same time. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
I bet you were sinking nearly as low as the hole. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I did everything I possibly can for Halifax to pay, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
and they refused to pay. I was just beside myself. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
I was very, very, very unhappy and I just started crying because I just | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
didn't know who to phone, I didn't know who to phone or what to do. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
And while a sinkhole is not the usual thing an insurer might have | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
to deal with, you may be surprised to realise it IS quite | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
normal for damage to a garden that doesn't affect the house to | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
be excluded from your home insurance. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Your garden does not come under your buildings | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
insurance, and it's not something classed as contents, either. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
So if anything even remotely similar were to happen in your garden, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
chances are you would be stuck with any resulting costs as well. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Because it isn't going to be included in standard home cover. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
The only way to avoid those extra costs would be to get some sort | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
of separate cover for the garden but that's not widely available. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Gretel was left with no choice but to commission a structural | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
report and employ her own builder to fill in the hole. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
So now it's all down to you, how did you cope from a money point of view? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
My dad died two years ago | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
and I had £5,000, which we was going to put | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
a headstone on my dad's grave, so I had to phone my family up | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
and say, "Listen, you know, I can't put, I can't use this | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
"money for the headstone because I've just had a huge sinkhole | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
"in the back of my garden so I'll just have to use this | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
"money for that, but that really hurt me because I really, really loved my dad, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
"and to know that I had to use that money for, to pay for the | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
"sinkhole, it had to be paid because I couldn't leave it, but it really, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
"really, really, hurt me to know that I had to use that money for that." | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
In the end, the whole repair cost around £9,000. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
It was a horrible time. I was going to bed crying, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
getting up in the morning, looking through the bathroom window | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
and I could see the hole. I just couldn't sleep, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I was just crying. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
As she'd never have even contemplated | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
a situation like this could occur. Gretel had had no idea that | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
her insurance would not cover this kind of eventuality. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
And I'll bet most of the rest of us wouldn't have known, either. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
The Halifax, though, has reiterated that such incidents, which it | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
says are "still rare occurrences", are only covered by a policy's | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
terms "if they cause damage to the insured property". | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
In Gretel's case, their specialist claims team investigated | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
thoroughly and were satisfied that the sinkhole posed | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
"no imminent likely danger to the property". | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
So without any reason under her policy to pay out, all | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
they could do was advise Gretel on recommended next steps. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
Although it was at her own expense, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
the work restoring Gretel's garden is now complete, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
so Maya is able once again to trampoline with confidence. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
But Gretel remains shocked not just that such an extraordinarily | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
freakish event ever happened but also that, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
when it did, there was nowhere she could turn for help. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
This is one of the most obscure things to | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-happen in your back garden, that's awful. -Yeah, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
nobody saves up for it. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
And it really, really, really hurt, and I was so desperate. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
In recent years we've unfortunately become all too familiar with | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
those shocking pictures of huge swathes of the UK submerged | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
under flood water following particularly wet weather. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Now, when the owners of many of those homes affected come to | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
renew their policies they're going to find | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
they are faced with much higher insurance premiums, but you know, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
plenty of other people who didn't see even a drop of water coming | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
into their property are also being told that their risk of flooding | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
has gone up as well and that they are going to have to pay more, too. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
Now, I know this because it's happened to me. Well, obviously, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
I wanted to find out what was going on but I have to tell you, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
that has proved a lot harder than you might think. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
Our winters seem to be getting wetter. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
And for many, that's more than just an inconvenience. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
By the end of the heaviest downpour of early 2014, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
thousands of homes had been seriously flooded. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
In the worst-affected county, Somerset, there was | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
almost twice the amount of rainfall as in previous years | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
and it was months before the clean-up was complete. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Insurance companies paid out | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
£451 million in flood insurance claims. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
And as the water levels have risen, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
so, too, has the amount that a lot of us pay for our home insurance. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
350,000 homes are now classified as at risk from flooding. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
And among those apparently facing an increased risk is mine! | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Or at least that was what I was surprised to be told | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
when I came to renew my policy. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
And as a result, my premiums would have to go up. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Now, I live in central London, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
but I don't live on the banks of the River Thames. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Nor do I live next door to here, which is where the | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
River Thames is rushing by just over a mile away. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
In fact, I live around here, which is | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
over two miles from the Thames. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
So if the river did ever burst its banks, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
then it would take quite a large chunk of central London with it, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
including the Houses of Parliament, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Buckingham Palace, the Royal Albert Hall, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
and half of Kensington before it got anywhere near my house. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
As far as I know, my house has never been flooded in the 180 years | 0:12:56 | 0:13:02 | |
since it was built. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
So you can understand why I was surprised to suddenly be | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
told there was now a high risk of that happening. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
I'm sure many of you will have been equally puzzled after | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
suddenly being told something similar by your own insurers. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Which is why I was determined to get to the bottom of how all this | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
had been worked out. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
I asked my broker to go back to the insurance company | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
and ask for an explanation, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
and we received a letter saying I'm not in danger of flooding | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
from the River Thames at all, but from surface water flooding, which | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
is apparently what happens when you get an excessive amount of rain that | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
doesn't drain away, and they sent me a map of this mysterious new threat. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
The map DID show that my house, was under threat | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
from flooding in really heavy rainfall, when the drains | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
under London might not be able take all the water away quickly enough. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
But it was the first I'd heard of it. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
And when our team looked into it, searching all the publicly | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
available information they could find about my home, they couldn't | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
pinpoint anything to support the insurance company's belief that | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
my home suddenly faced an increased risk from this type of flooding, either. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
So I paid for a Homecheck report, the kind your solicitor will | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
get when you're buying a house. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
That didn't show up a high risk, either. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
And when we spoke to the planning department at Kensington | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
and Chelsea Council they said there was no risk at all! | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
So what do my insurance company know that the council don't? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
I've come to the offices of the Environment Agency. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
They've mapped and studied every bit of England and Wales for all | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
kinds of flood risk, including the one I'd never imagined homes, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
including mine, could be under threat from, surface water flooding. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
Surface water flooding seems to be one of these subjects | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and one of these titles that has crept in, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
particularly to insurance policies quite recently. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
One of the things about surface water flooding is that it can | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
happen anywhere. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
It can happen miles away from rivers, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
so it can happen in places where somebody might not | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
automatically expect that it would happen. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
But we are seeing more of this kind of flooding, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and that's one of the reasons why we've produced these maps | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
which show areas which are at risk of surface water flooding. We're | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
trying to make them as good as they can be, and the plan is that | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
we'll continue to maintain them, that as more information is available | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
to us that, we'll build that into the maps and make them even better | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
At the moment, the Environment Agency's maps don't appear to | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
show my home IS under high risk of surface water flooding. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
So does that mean my insurers, and yours, too, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
if you've been told the same thing, are wrong? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
It's important to remember that there are always | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
limitations in any maps and that the maps can't be property specific, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
they can't show for sure whether a property will or won't flood. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
But we do believe that they are the best maps | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
that are available for all of England and Wales. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
So if, as they believe, the Environment Agency has | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
the best surface water flooding maps available, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
you might expect it's these maps the insurance companies | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
will use to judge whether a house is at risk of flooding. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
But, in fact, that's not necessarily the case. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
We asked the top ten insurers what maps they use to evaluate | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
the chances of flooding and calculate insurance premiums. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Three companies didn't bother to respond to us at all. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Another three said they do | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
use the Environment Agency's maps, but only one uses them exclusively. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
The other two use them alongside data | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
and maps commissioned from private companies. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
And the remaining four insurers told us | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
they don't use the Environment Agency maps at all | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
because they don't believe they go into enough detail. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
So, with most insurance companies using different maps, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
next we asked them if they'd be prepared to show those to | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
customers to help them understand how their policies are calculated. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Of the six who answered, all said no, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
telling us this information was "commercially sensitive", | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
or not in a form that would be meaningful to customers. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
So, with no standard map being used across the industry, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
and too many insurance companies just unwilling to explain how | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
they set their premiums, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
I'd like to find out what are those decisions that are made when it | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
comes to deciding the potential flood risk to our properties. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
The Association of British Insurers represents | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
the majority of insurance companies in the UK. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
So I've come to meet its head of property, to find out | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
more about how insurers calculate premiums when it comes to flooding. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
How do insurance companies work out flood risk across the country | 0:17:24 | 0:17:30 | |
when they're quoting prices for premiums? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
So insurers will take a variety of sources | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
and information and they'll think that their way of assessing | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
flood risk is better than the rest of the market | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
and there'll be a competitive process where insurer A will | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
try and get a better understanding of flood risk than insurer B. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
That means different insurers will have different | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
views of flood risk, but that's good for customers | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
as that means you have two insurers who have different views of | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
flood risk and that allows customers to shop around and use another | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
insurer who may view them as lower risk than their previous insurer. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Can I take you to task on that? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
You say it's better for the consumer. No, it's not, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
because that means every insurance company can set their own rules. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Surely the answer in something like this would be for one level point | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
at which everyone can judge whether or not you are at risk. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
Because simply that doesn't exist, there is | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
no one view of what flood risk is. Nobody can predict | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
whether a certain place has a 10% chance of flooding and could | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
flood next year. In a competitive market, insurers are driven | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
to find the best way of assessing flood risk and some will spend | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
millions and millions of pounds in trying to understand this and | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
they do that because it gives them a competitive edge over others who may | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
spend less investing in flood risk and flood-mapping techniques. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
That gives them the ability to price more accurately in their view, and gives | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
them the ability to win business and offer price at an appropriate level. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
If you're unsure how your premium is calculated, you can | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
always ask your insurer to tell you. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
When I asked mine to explain the rise in premiums, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
they did ultimately tell me how they'd worked it out. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
And while I don't agree with their assessment, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
it does go to show that insurers WILL open up to customers. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
In the end, they reduced my premium, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
but if the house ever does flood. I will have to pay an excess | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
of £2,500 on any claim for flood damage. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
When the Rip Off team spoke to my insurers, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
they were told that the company "specialises in analysing, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
"understanding, and appropriately pricing risk for its customers" | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
and that, like all insurance providers, it uses an | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
"experienced team of specialist underwriters" using "the most | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
"accurate and up-to-date information available" to assess that risk. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
They said that they are "obliged to charge an appropriate premium" | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
to reflect the risk each property presents. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Still, at least I've been able to get cover in the unlikely | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
event my house does flood. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
But I'm afraid that is not the case for everyone who's | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
classed as being at risk. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Later in the programme we'll head to the town where MILLIONS has | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
been spent on new flood defences, but some residents are still | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
struggling to get any flood insurance at all. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
We thought because we are now at a lesser risk of flooding, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
that would be fine with the insurance companies. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
But unfortunately that's not the reality. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
if your home is damaged in a storm, why your insurer could | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
say it's you that has to pay to pick up the pieces. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-We were absolutely gutted. -Shell-shocked. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
It is just a terribly sad | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
and devastating situation to find oneself in. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
So many of you get in touch with us | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
throughout the year by letter by e-mail, but you know our pop-up | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
shop is the perfect way for us to be able to meet you face-to-face, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
so that we can give you all the advice you need and hopefully | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
answers to some of those questions that are driving you mad! | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
Jo Youen came into our pop-up shop to see if trading standards expert | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
Sylvia Rook could help her with an ongoing problem with her caravan. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
I bought a brand-new caravan five years ago | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
and unfortunately we've had continuous problems with the | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
window leaking and I don't know what to do or how to get it resolved. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
So when did the fault first show itself? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
We started to see a misting in the window about | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
six months into using the caravan. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and on our first annual service, the dealer mentioned that they | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
were having to replace the window because the material wasn't strong | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-enough. We arranged through warranty to have it repaired. -Had the | 0:21:39 | 0:21:45 | |
dealer actually replaced the whole window unit or had he just sealed | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-round it? -No, they replaced, we had a brand-new window. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
We stored it over winter, as we normally do, and we noticed mould inside the caravan. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:57 | |
Oh, that's not good. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
The dealer said, "We've had a few people say that. Have you got any hairline cracks on the outside | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
"of the front of the caravan?" We had about eight. They then had | 0:22:04 | 0:22:10 | |
to put a claim through warranty for a whole new front and another window. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:16 | |
The dealer then decided the job was too complicated, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
so referred it to the manufacturer, who replaced | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
the front of the caravan and the problematic window. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
But that wasn't the end of it. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
We noticed the window leaked. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
-Still - the same window? -This was the third window we had. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Have you been back to the dealer you bought it from? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-They've unfortunately gone into administration. -Have you gone back to the manufacturer? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
-I have. -And what have they said? -Well, they're telling me that my contract | 0:22:40 | 0:22:47 | |
-isn't with them and it was with the dealer. However, they have said they'll replace the window. -Again. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
-Again. -You're in | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
a very difficult position. You've got a small claim against the manufacturer | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
for the work that they did. I think it's going to be about trying to get | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
some sort of goodwill gesture from the manufacturer and say," I didn't | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
"have a contract with you but it's you that made this and clearly it | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
"can't be fixed so what can you do to help me?" The other thing | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
you can do is go back and see if they'll extend the warranty because | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
of the fact that you've had problems all the way down the line, see | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
if they will extend the warranty to cover these issues until the matter | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
-can get sorted. -So, as part of the gesture of goodwill, I could | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
-maybe add that in. -If you don't ask, you won't get it at all. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
If you do ask, there's a chance you might. It's always worth trying. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
It wouldn't be Rip Off Britain's pop-up shop without our gripe corner | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
where people can go | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
and let off steam about things that get their blood boiling. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
And you certainly were not holding back! | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Give the working man a chance - we're paying too much for fuel | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
prices. Ten years ago we were paying half the amount, it's not fair. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
It's really difficult to get a hotel room to fit the five of us, so we | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
have to get ripped off and pay the price for two rooms. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
What really annoys me is PPI calls, there's no need for it. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
BOTH: Stop calling me, it's rude! | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Now, when it comes to bad weather, you might think it's pretty | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
obvious what constitutes a storm. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Howling gale, pouring rain, maybe even thunder and lightning. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
But in fact, when it comes to insurance, it's rather more complicated. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
And that can have big repercussions if you're making | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
an claim for anything that you think was damaged in a storm. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
Around half of all complaints about buildings insurance | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
come down to disputes resulting from bad weather. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Not just because insurers aren't convinced that the weather | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
was to blame for any damage. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
But often because they don't even agree that the weather was | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
that bad in the first place. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
So when is a storm not a storm? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Well, batten down the hatches, for some homeowners, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
this has been a very bumpy ride. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
When Janet Tipper and her husband, Doug, moved to this pretty Devonshire | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
farmhouse in 1987, they knew it had been built using the traditional | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
West Country building techniques of more than 300 years ago. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
The cob's about three-foot thick here. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
As the house had been made with old-fashioned cob walls, it meant | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
if anything were to happen, repairs would be far from straightforward. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
We knew it would be a big job, and a difficult job because it is a | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
specialist area, not everybody can deal with this sort of structure. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
With protecting the authenticity of the house so very important, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Janet took out a policy underwritten by the Co-Operative Insurance, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and was confident that she'd done what | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
she could in case the worst should happen. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Unfortunately, on the 3rd January, 2012, it did. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
There are a number of Met Office warnings in force, one of them | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
due to the strength of the wind. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
It was just a tremendous storm, wasn't it? | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
There was slates coming off the roof over there, and it | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
was just a horrendous storm. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
When I woke up, I drew the curtains back, and I looked out | 0:26:03 | 0:26:09 | |
and I saw a whole load of rubble on the drive and I thought, "Oh, my God!" | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
As a result of the pounding delivered by the storm, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
a whole section of the cob wall on the front of the house had | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
just crumbled away, falling onto their porch. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
And the roof had some minor damage, too. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
We knew the cause of this problem was the storm | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
because the storm had raged all night. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Janet immediately contacted her broker, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
and on their advice, arranged for a local contractor to cover up | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
the damage in order to prevent it from getting worse. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Two days later, the insurers sent round a loss adjuster to | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
inspect the property. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
But the couple were astonished by what she had to say. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
She said there was no storm, which was a complete bombshell. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
We were absolutely shocked. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
She picked up a weather programme on her computer | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
that apparently insurers use, and was trying to say that this | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
did not record a storm, and we were just baffled. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
She said, "If your roof was damaged, or because yours | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
"is an old house, the insurers wouldn't pay." | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
And I said, "What are you taking our money for?" | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
Assessing the severity of bad weather isn't | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
quite as simple as you might think. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
To determine if it's bad enough to be classed as a storm, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
insurers will often rely on what's called the Beaufort Scale, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
an officially recognised measure of wind speed that became | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
standard in the 19th century. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
But even though it was widely reported that severe weather | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
had hit the entire west coast of the country at that time, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
the loss adjuster simply wasn't convinced that it was | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
the cause of the damage to the house. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
So, although the insurer DID agree to repair | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
some of the damage to the porch they refused to pay out for by | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
far the most significant part of the claim, the repair of the cob wall. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
We were absolutely gutted. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Shell-shocked. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
It is just a terribly sad | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
and devastating situation to find oneself in. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
In the weeks that followed, as the couple protested, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
the insurers did accept that there had been a storm in the area. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
But they still didn't agree that the weather had caused the damage, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
which, instead, they put down to lack of maintenance leading | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
to wear and tear. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
The couple were horrified, not least because it left them having to | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
shoulder the cost of repairs, which totalled around £21,000. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
Your whole world has fallen apart | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
because what you've paid in insurance for to protect what | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
you own is just not doing what it's promised. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
Both retired from work, Janet | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
and Doug didn't have enough savings to cover the cost of the repairs, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
and nor were they able to get any sort of loan that could help. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
The only solution was to sell their much-loved holiday home | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
in France, where they had planned to spend much of their retirement. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
They were heartbroken. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
But on top of that, they remained convinced that they hadn't | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
been treated fairly. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
And Janet wasn't prepared to take that lying down. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
Unfortunately for the insurers, we're made of quite tough metal, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
and I was not going to let them get away with it. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
Janet decided to take their case to the Financial Ombudsman Service. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
The adjudicator, after a lot of negotiation with Co-op | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
Insurance, but eventually, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
he awarded fully in our favour. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
In fact, not only did the adjudicator say | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
the Co-op should stump up for the repair bill, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
but they also recommended compensation for the couple | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
because of the stress of having to sell their French home. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
But the insurer didn't accept this decision. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
So the whole sorry saga rumbled on a lot longer. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
It went through the full Ombudsman | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
and then was awarded fully in our favour, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
plus 8% interest | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
and £250 for the stress involved. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
It was a great result for the couple, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
but all told, it took more than two years | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
after the storm that caused the damage for the insurers to pay out. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
Sadly, such disputes are not unusual. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
The Financial Ombudsman Service says disagreements with insurers | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
over damage caused by weather are all too common. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
We get around 350 building insurance complaints every month. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
And a lot of those come down to how we define bad weather. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Storm is a pretty ambiguous term | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
and insurers shouldn't rely on vague definitions to not pay claims. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
If all the evidence suggests that the damage isn't wear and tear, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
then we would expect the insurer to be realistic, reasonable and pay up. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
So, what should you do if a dispute with your insurer | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
over the weather causes a storm all of its own? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
First things first, don't panic. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
It's not down to you to have to prove | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
whether a serious weather event took place or not. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
All that matters to the insurer | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
will be what you can remember about the time the storm took place. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
So jot down everything you can recall. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Maybe the time you first started noticing the wind was playing up. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
Also, speak to your neighbours. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
If you've been affected by a storm, chances are they have been, too. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
And that kind of evidence can really support your claim. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
We contacted Co-operative Insurance to find out why it took so long | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
for Janet and Doug to have their claim resolved. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
They told us they were truly sorry for the difficulties and delays | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
the couple experienced, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
but stressed that they do not turn down claims lightly | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
and that this individual case is in no way indicative | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
of the high standards they aim for. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
They felt a full review was necessary | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
after the Ombudsman's initial decision | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
due to the differences in opinion | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
between the loss adjustor's findings | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
and the evidence provided by Janet and Doug. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
And while they say the timescale of that was out of their control, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
they're sorry for the additional inconvenience | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
and distress this caused. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
But Janet and Doug remain bitter | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
that it took almost two years of fighting | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
to get the payout they never doubted they were due. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
The whole experience has just been devastating. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
But I was determined to battle as far as I could and get justice, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
which I finally feel I did. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
We've put together an absolutely free booklet of tips | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
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to the address we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
You can also find on the website lots more information | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
on the topics we tackle on the programme | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
with plenty of tips on how to save money and, most importantly, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
how to avoid being caught out. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Earlier in the programme, I went on something of a mission | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
to discover why my home and perhaps yours, too, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
had suddenly been re-categorised as being at risk of flooding. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
And how that would dramatically drive up my insurance premiums. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
But that's small fry compared to the costs facing those people | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
whose homes have a really high risk of flooding, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
or indeed, have been flooded in the past. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
The devastating flood that hit residents | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
of Cockermouth in Cumbria in 2009 was the third in four years. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
But it was the worst of them all, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
destroying homes and businesses throughout the town. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
It was deeper than me. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
It was about halfway up the top part of those windows there. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
The town centre was submerged under 2.5 metres of floodwater. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
Over 900 properties were affected | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
and around 200 people had to be rescued by the emergency services. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
All the time, you keep thinking, it's going to stop. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
It didn't, it kept coming. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
The water level actually ended up just at the top of the... | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
Well, just at about this height. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I'm not the toughest guy in the world, but it made me cry. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Some locals, like Sue Cashmore, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
had only just recovered from the flood of the previous year. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
But this one was much worse. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
The house flooded for the third time in 2009. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
November 19th, 2009. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
The date always stays engraved in your memory. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
We went upstairs, but then the water | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
just kept coming and coming and coming. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
And we finally ended up with about seven foot of water in the house. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
After 18 hours of being trapped on the first floor, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
Sue and her daughters were rescued. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
We climbed out of the bedroom window, into the boat. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
Seeing them leave their home, which is meant to be their area of security, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
in a boat, that kind of really pulls at the heartstrings, and still does to this day. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
Sue and her family were taken to an evacuation centre. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
But having been through all of this before, Sue knew that in some ways | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
the worst was yet to come. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
I can remember walking in and looking at the people and just saying to somebody, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
"These people have no idea the hell they're about to go through." | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
Because I knew that the next year of their life would be hell. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
People think if you're insured, "Oh, it's no problem, you've been flooded, you're insured." | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
"Not a problem, you just get everything new." | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
That is not the way it is at all, you've got to fight for everything to get it back. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Sue's insurance did pay for the repairs she needed, but her parents, | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
who live 100 yards away, were in a very different situation. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
They too had been flooded twice before, but this time | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
they simply could not afford to claim on their insurance. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
As bad as you thought or about what you think, you thought it would be? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Yeah? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Worse than what I thought it would be. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
The insurance excess Sue's parents would have to pay | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
for any flood-related claim was a whopping £20,000. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
Meaning that they simply could not afford for their insurer to repair the damage. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
The community pulled together to get Cockermouth back on its feet, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
and a charity was set up to donate furniture to those in need, including Sue's parents. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
For a man who's worked all his life to get his home and to provide for his family | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
to now be sitting on second-hand furniture is very, very difficult for him. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
He does find that very, very hard. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
With floods so regularly damaging the town, it was clear that | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
something had to be done to stop the same thing happening again. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
Residents successfully campaigned to have flood defences built, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
with some of the money raised through extra council tax. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
So it took us about 18 months to 2 years, working with the Environment Agency in partnership. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:15 | |
Negotiation, raising money as a town. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
We had a 4.4 million flood defence put in. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
It does give you some piece of mind. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
It just makes things a lot better that you've got that there. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
But even with this new state-of-the-art protection, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
some residents still can't get affordable insurance against floods. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
Including Sue. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
My premium was about £30-£40 when I started out, it then went up to £90-odd a month. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:47 | |
And then last year they put the premium up to £200 a month. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
I'm a single parent with two daughters who are at university, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:56 | |
I can't afford to pay £200 a month so I had to make that really difficult decision | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
that I couldn't afford that insurance, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Part of the reason that Sue's premiums are so high is | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
because although the town's new flood defences will protect against river water, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
they can't protect against surface water flooding. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
As Sue's parents found last Christmas, when they were flooded yet again. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
This time because the drains, some of which date back to the Victorian times, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
could not handle the amount of rain. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
The drain was either blocked, broken or inadequate. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
That's what we found out here. They were blocked. We had them all cleaned and whatever. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
On the night Mum and Dad were flooded, what we found was all the gullies were full, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
and we actually had mountain rescue and other people down here, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
digging the drains out to get it working again. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Once again, Sue's parents could not afford to pay the £20,000 | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
their insurer would charge to repair the flood damage. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
Both they, and of course Sue, who no longer feels that she can afford to get insurance at all, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
feel they're in a lose-lose situation, and one they simply can't escape by selling up. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:02 | |
Unless I really drop it down to a ridiculous amount and lose a lot of money, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
I cannot sell my house. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Fortunately, things are set to improve. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Recognising that those who need flood cover the most | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
are finding themselves priced out of being able to get it, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
the industry, along with the Government and the Environment Agency, has come up with a solution. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
A new scheme called Flood Re, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
is being introduced that will make sure every one of us, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
regardless of whether our house is at risk of flooding or not, pay an extra £10.50 on our home insurance. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
That money will then go into a pot that will be used to | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
insure the insurers against big payouts for flood plains. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
The insurance industry is confident that as a result, they should be | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
able to offer flood cover to people like Sue at a level they are able to pay. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
Flood Re is there to solve the issue of affordable flood cover | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
for those 2% of people who live in areas at risk of flooding | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
and who would be unable to find affordable cover in the future. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
And when is this going to come into effect? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
At the moment we are anticipating that will come into effect in July 2015. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
But it is worth underlining that this is a very complex project, it is a world first. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
It is something that requires an unprecedented level of government and industry partnership. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:14 | |
But though the planned scheme is good news, people | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
like Sue and her parents are still left exposed, and unprotected until it comes in. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:23 | |
What are those people in that position at the moment supposed to do | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
if they believe they are in an area of high flood risk, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
the insurance premium is so high that they can't afford it? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
Do they just risk it and go without? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
What they can do is, first of all, find a local broker who specialises in flood risk. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
The second step is to go on to the website of the British Insurance Brokers Association, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
they have a find a broker service. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
And within that service they have brokers again | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
that specialise in people who live in areas at risk of flooding. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
But it is not a long-term solution, and that is why we are trying to bring in Flood Re. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
And for Sue and others like her, that can't come soon enough. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
Every time it rains I'm thinking, "I hope I don't flood, what am I going to do if I flood?" | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
"How on earth am I going to survive?" | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
I don't have enough money to spend thousands on getting a house turned around. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain we are always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
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or while travelling at home or abroad. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
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As you know, it is almost impossible to predict how much damage | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
a storm or week after week of rain will cause. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Especially if as in the case of Gretel's massive sink hole, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
all that activity is happening deep underground, long before the signs | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
actually show on the surface. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
And it is at times like these that we really do rely on our insurers for help. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
And thanks to Britain's notoriously unreliable weather | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
and the fact that some experts say we're likely to see | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
even more sudden dramatic downpours in the future, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
chances are we're going to need to rely on insurers a lot more in the coming years and decades. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
So it really pays to make sure you are properly covered | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
and you've read the small print to make sure that, whatever happens, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
you won't have to foot the bill to put it all right. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
Well, on that familiar note, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
it is time to say goodbye for now. But we'll be back very soon | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
-to look into more of your stories, so, till then, from all the team, goodbye. -Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 |