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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you've contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
People should expect more when they're paying for something these days. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
Everything you buy, I just think we're getting ripped off. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
You have to rely on them giving you a fair price for something. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
You can't always rely on that. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You don't want more hassle. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
You want them to honour their agreement with you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
And when you've lost out, but no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
That is disgusting! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
We're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello, and welcome back to the Rip-Off Britain office, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
where, as usual, as you can see, the team is very busy investigating | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
some of the thousands of e-mails and letters you very kindly send us, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
telling us about everything from out-and-out scams | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
to mistakes you might have made yourself | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
and you simply want to warn other people. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
And it's those stories of bitter experience | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
that can sometimes be the most interesting. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Because they make us all think about the things we buy or sign up for, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
often without asking exactly what we're going to get for our money. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Or taking a moment to make sure | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
we completely understand what we're buying. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
That's exactly what happened to the people in today's programme. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
They all bought something | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
that just didn't work out quite the way they expected. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
And in each case, what they were buying was the kind of everyday thing | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
that we might find ourselves in the market for. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
And if you do, by the end of the programme, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
I hope that you'll have picked up some tips | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
to ensure what happened to them is not going to happen to you. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
Coming up, the terrible results | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
of choosing the wrong dealer to sell you a puppy. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
How do you explain to three young children | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
that you've had to put their pup to sleep? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
And lifting the bonnet on the second-hand car industry. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
How to spot if what you're buying really is up to scratch. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I don't want the car. I want nothing to do with the car. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
It's caused me too many problems. I don't feel safe driving it. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
One in every three homes in the UK has a dog. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
In fact, I've got two of them at home. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
Whether it's a family pet, a working dog, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
or even a pocket pooch for your handbag, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
dogs really are still man's best friend. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
That means there is always a huge demand | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
for lovely little new puppies. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
But as our next family discovered, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
there can also be serious consequences for the new owners | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
and the puppies themselves if a breeder is cutting corners. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
There are around ten million dogs in the UK. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
That's one pooch for every six people. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
But it seems that's still not enough, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
as the demand for newborn puppies far outstrips the supply. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Now, these two gorgeous dogs are great companions to me | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and really are part of the family. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
They're just great fun to have around and the initial excitement | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
of finding a puppy that you know is the one for you | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
is a moment you'll cherish forever. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
However, if you're buying a puppy, say, out of an ad in a newspaper | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
or indeed on the internet, it's very difficult to know | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
whether the pup you end up with is the one originally advertised. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And with those big soppy eyes, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
well, of course, all rational thinking goes out the window. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
David Steele and his family are about to experience | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
that very special moment of choosing a puppy for themselves. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Just go straight through here. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Ah, look, Connor! Look at those! | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
But this isn't the first time this year David has chosen a puppy. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
So, which one would you like? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-The blue one. -This one? -Yeah. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
In January, he and his wife Tina | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
chose their first from a different breeder. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
We decided we were going to buy the boys a puppy. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
Tina decided she wanted a golden cocker spaniel, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
so we searched the internet for a few weeks. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Eventually, they discovered what seemed to be | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
the perfect-looking litter. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
The online advert said the puppies had been vet checked, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
de-flead, wormed and had their first vaccination. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
They also came with four weeks' free insurance. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I made the phone call, spoke to the young lady, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
asked if they had the golden cocker spaniels. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
She said, yes, they had two. Two boys left. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
So David and Tina headed to Stoke to see the puppies for themselves. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
But when they got there, they weren't allowed to go into the house | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
to see the litter. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Instead, they were asked to wait on the porch. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
I asked if I could see the dog's mother, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
to which she replied that the dog had gone back to her nan's property, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
which was a bit strange because we were told | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
that the mum to the puppies was at the property. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
The person at the door then went into the house | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
and brought out two golden cocker spaniel pups. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
One in particular, I fell in love with. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
He just looked at me with his puppy dog eyes | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
and he had a little love heart on his head | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
and that's the one we picked. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
When David and Tina arrived home, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
their three children immediately fell in love | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
with the eight-week-old puppy, as well. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
They named him Buster and tried their best to settle him in. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
But something didn't seem quite right. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
And when he didn't improve after three days, they began to worry. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Buster was being sick | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
and a local vet told them this could be because the family | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
had recently changed his diet. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
But Tina had a feeling it was more than that. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
And the next morning, she rushed him to the vet. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
We thought we'd done something wrong. It was something we did. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Changing his food, you know. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
It wasn't until we took him to the vets, she took one look at him, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
she said she thinks it's parvo. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Sadly, Buster was diagnosed with parvovirus, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
a potentially life-threatening virus | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
that's passed between dogs by close contact. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
It is treatable, but the younger the puppy, the worse the prognosis. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
The vet put Buster on a drip | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
and told Tina that it was unlikely that he would survive. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
They were horrified that the puppy | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
they'd only just bought could be so ill. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Tina and David tried to call the breeder for an explanation. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
I left answerphone messages. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Any respectable breeder or anybody that sells a puppy, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
the minute parvo is mentioned, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
they should have been on the phone, giving me the details, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
"Can I have the phone number for your vet?" | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
It wasn't until about 12:00 the following day | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
where I actually got to speak to the young lady on the phone. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
She basically said, "You're insured, deal with it. It's not our problem. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
"Things like this happen all the time." | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
And that just enraged me even more. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Just hours later, the vet called David | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
to say that Buster was not responding to treatment. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
It made me cry straightaway. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
Telling the kids just destroyed me. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
How do you explain to three young children | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
that you've had to put their pup to sleep? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Naturally, David wanted answers. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Whilst they couldn't prove that Buster had contracted parvovirus | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
before he came to live with them, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
he hadn't been in contact with any other animals, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
or even left the house in the three days since they'd bought him home. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
After trying to get hold of the breeder, a Mr David Rowley, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
he eventually picked up the phone. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
He said, "It's not my problem. It's not my dog anymore, it's your dog." | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
He said, "You're insured." | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I said, "No. I've paid you my money. This is down to you. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
"This isn't about insurance, this is about you putting things right." | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
But Mr Rowley refused. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Angered by this, David started looking online | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
to see if anyone else had had | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
similar problems with the same breeder. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
There was people saying, "We've had a puppy from this guy." | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
It's either been really ill, or the puppy had died that they had bought. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
David reported the breeder to the RSPCA, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
the council's Animal Welfare department and to Trading Standards. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
But he's worried that while any investigations take place, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
the breeder is still trading. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
He's still selling puppies. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
He's still got his breeder's licence. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
The family are trying to move on from Buster's death, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
but the memories are still so upsetting for Tina. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
It's something I didn't want my kids to go through so young. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
It's caused a lot of sadness. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
I can't even talk about him without crying. Yeah. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
We got in touch with the breeder, David Rowley, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
who told us that he would never knowingly sell a dog that's ill. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
He and the people who work with him love their animals | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and the last thing they want | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
is for anybody to be upset with one of their dogs. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
He told us that he doesn't allow visitors | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
to go into the house to visit the puppies | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
because his porch is very large and the floor is tiled, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
so it's easy to clean in order to prevent a spread of infection. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
He also reiterated that when the family visited, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
it wasn't possible to see Buster's mother | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
because she'd already gone back to her own home. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Mr Rowley told us that when he heard about Buster's parvovirus diagnosis, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
he told David to do whatever it takes to treat the dog. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
And that whilst the insurance would cover these costs, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
he would pay the £100 insurance excess. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
He also says that he immediately quarantined his other puppies as a precaution, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
but in any case, he disputed that Buster died of parvovirus at all. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Instead, suggesting that he may have tested positive for it | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
because he had recently been inoculated against it. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
But when we checked this out, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
we were told there is no scientific evidence of it being possible. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
What's more, we have discovered that Mr Rowley sold another puppy | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
that also died of parvovirus just four days | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
after he'd been told about Buster's diagnosis. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
However, when we put that to him, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:58 | |
he insisted he hadn't been informed that any other puppy had died. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
But since we spoke to Mr Rowley, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
we've been told that he has pleaded guilty to four counts | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
of operating a pet shop without a licence. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
So, with so many pets advertised for sale online, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
how can you be sure you're buying from a reputable breeder? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
I've come to the British Veterinary Association to find out. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Always see a puppy with its mother. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
And that's very good advice in almost every case. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
When people who are trying to pull the wool over your eyes | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
realise that's the main criteria you ask for, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
then it's not beyond the wit of man | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
that will find a dog and call it a mother. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
So you've got to have your eyes open. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
The other big thing, of course, these days, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
is buying puppies on the internet. So, how do you view that? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
With great caution. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
The internet is a great place to advertise. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
With puppies, you should go and see the environment, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
see the puppy, see its parents. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
As well as asking lots of questions about the puppy, its parents | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
and the breeders themselves, | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
you should see if the breeder can give you a puppy contract | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
with detailed information about the puppy's background and its health. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
All of which a reputable breeder should be happy to provide. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
Meanwhile, now that a few months have passed since Buster's death, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
Tina, David and the boys have decided it's time for a new puppy. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
But this time, they've done their homework, found a reputable breeder | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
and organised for extra-early parvovirus vaccinations for the pup. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
We've been on the Kennel Club website | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
and we followed the guidelines in choosing a puppy. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
We've seen Mum. We're very happy indeed. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
The old stereotype of the dodgy second-hand car dealer | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
isn't quite so true these days. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
And yet there's still an extraordinary number of problems | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and complaints about buying a used car. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
In fact, last year, Citizens Advice dealt with 84,000 of them. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
That's more than for any other purchase. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
And nearly three quarters were to do with faults | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
that developed in the first month. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
So, how many of us really know what to look out for | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
when we're buying a second-hand car? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
We did a test on the streets of Exeter to find out. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Here's one used car that definitely isn't fit to drive. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
It's 13 years old, has done enough miles to take it almost to the moon | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
and beneath that two-tone paint job, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
it's been specially rigged with problems. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
But if you were in the market for a new motor, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
how many would you spot? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
We wanted consumers to be more aware about what they were buying. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
So one side is good and one side is bad. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
On the green side, there are various faults | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
and we want to see if consumers can actually find out what they are. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
The white side is in perfect condition, but the green side isn't. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
There are nine problems which any car buyer should be looking out for. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Some of them potentially dangerous. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Let's see how many these Exeter shoppers can identify. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Well, this looks a bit dodgy already. Look at the light! | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
So, you're not happy with the light? | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
-Not massively happy with the light. -No? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
I don't really know what I should be looking for. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
She was right to spot the loose headlight, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
but there's also a worn front tyre, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
the front wing doesn't fit properly | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
and the suspension spring is broken. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
Front wing's out of alignment, the panel gaps are all wrong. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Obviously, there's a bit of trim missing. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
The bonnet's dented, as well, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
so it's obviously had a bit of an impact... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Yeah, but it's 2001, it's going to have a few little blemishes. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
A bit more than a blemish, though, isn't it? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-It's a bit rusty, the suspension. -Is it? | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
When you were looking at the spring, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
did you notice the coils weren't complete? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
The spring's actually broken. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Ah, yes, I see that. Yeah. I see that now, yeah. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
It's a particularly dangerous fault | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
because what can happen is the broken section of the spring | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
can spike the sidewall of the tyre. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
But our car has other serious problems | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
you might only spot after a careful look at the paperwork. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Not least a discrepancy in its true mileage. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
200,000 miles. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
It says, like, 97 in here. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
-So, it's different? -Yeah, completely different. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
It means it's been clocked. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And our car shouldn't even be on sale. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Close study of the documents reveals it's been scrapped. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
It says something about DVLA, it's been scrapped. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
It is not looking good. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
It's a stereotype that girls know nothing about cars. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
And I think you don't want to embarrass yourself, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
so I probably wouldn't even ask the questions, I'd just go, "It's fine." | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Take it at face value. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
And that's what a lot of us do when we're buying a car. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
Charley Evans from Bridgend, for one. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
In the summer of 2013, while pregnant with baby Chloe, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
she decided the time was right for a family car. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
She went to one of Wales' biggest chain of dealerships, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
The Trade Centre Wales Ltd. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
"We like to make sure your journey is worth your while." | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
But Charley doesn't feel her experience | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
with The Trade Centre Wales was worth her while. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
We were really excited. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
They sounded like they would give us a great deal, which they did. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
Well, we thought they did. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
The couple chose a six-year-old Vauxhall Astra and paid £5,000. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
But they didn't do any checks on it before signing on the dotted line. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
They said they'd give us £1,000 off | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
if we bought it there and then on the day. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
We didn't have to pay a deposit. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
And it looked like a really good car. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
But things weren't quite so good on the inside. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
After two weeks, there was a huge sort of rattling under the engine | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
and we just about made it home | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
and that's when we got someone to come and have a look at it | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
because we didn't want to drive it. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
The Trade Centre Wales say all their cars | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
go through a 99-point inspection before they go on sale. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
But Charley's car ended up back there | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
only a very short time after she'd bought it. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
I was just devastated. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
You don't expect such a huge problem to go wrong with the car. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
So I was having doubts straightaway | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
that I had made a huge mistake. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
The Trade Centre Wales agreed to look at her car | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
and reassured Charley that they'd now fix the fault. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
We went down there and complained | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
and they said they'd take it and have a look at it themselves. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
And a couple of days later, the noise came back | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
and we were, like, "Great!" | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
Not wanting to drive the 30 miles to the dealership in the faulty car, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
Charley went to an independent garage | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
who told her the problem was still there. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Exasperated, she complained again to The Trade Centre Wales. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
They agreed to come and get the car | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
and promised to fix it for a second time. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
But after she got it back, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
it wasn't long before Charley felt the car was playing up again. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
To the point where she says she was having difficulty even starting it. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
She took the car to another garage | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
and they told her that far from being fixed, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
the engine needed to be completely reconditioned. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
By this point, I said, "I don't want the car. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
"I want nothing to do with the car. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
"It's caused me too many problems. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
"I don't feel safe driving it while I was heavily pregnant." | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Next, The Trade Centre Wales | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
asked an independent mechanic to look at the car. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
And after he concluded there was a fault | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
that hadn't yet been identified, they did agree to take the car back, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
cancel Charley's finance agreement | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
and refund the money she had paid. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
I was devastated. I've never been through so much stress | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
and I did not need that while I was heavily pregnant. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
When we contacted The Trade Centre Wales about all this, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
they told us it is simply not accurate | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
to say the car had a massive engine problem. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
They say at no time was Charley told the car was unsafe to drive, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
pointing out that their technicians drove it for over 62 miles | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
without incident and that over a considerable time, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
the engine performed faultlessly. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
They added that while the independent mechanic | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
they asked to inspect the car | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
did conclude it had an underlying problem, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
this was absolutely not due to any lack of proper attention | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
by their mechanics. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Indeed, they said the car had been troublesome for them, too, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
and it's caused them substantial financial loss. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
Stressing they're the UK's fifth largest independent used-car dealer | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
with five-star reviews on independent websites, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
they also told us they've applied assiduous | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
and sympathetic attention to Charley's complaints | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
and offered her a goodwill payment of £500 to cover the cost | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
and inconvenience she experienced. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
And they told us about the detailed consumer protection systems | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
they have in place to protect customers | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
at every stage from pre-sales to aftercare. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
But for Charley, the car simply didn't live up to her expectations | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
and she wishes she'd known more about the sort of problems | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
that can occur before she bought it. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
I don't know anything about cars. I really wish I did | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and had been more educated knowing | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
what to look for in buying a used vehicle. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Charley didn't even lift the bonnet when she bought her car. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
There's nothing to say she would have noticed a fault if she had. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
But even just a little knowledge can save a lot of trouble later on. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
So let's go back to our shoppers in Exeter | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
to see how much of that knowledge they have. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
How well are they doing at spotting | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
the problems with this second-hand car? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Would you ever check the tyre size? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
Yes, you must check the tyre size. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
If we look at the front one and compare it, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
that's actually illegal | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
to have tyres of different size on the same side. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
The average person wouldn't notice that. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
Well, we're trying to make sure the average person does now. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Thanks to you. -Yes, that's right. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
It seems there aren't too many of us | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
who can properly assess a used car before we buy. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
But on our website, bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
you can find more tips from Tim | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
on the key things to check with a second-hand car | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
to improve your chances of buying | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
something that's safe and won't let you down. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, the ads are everywhere, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
but are savings plans aimed at the over 50s | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
as good a deal as the famous faces might lead you to think? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
I felt cheated, yes. But I felt also pretty helpless. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
Our Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop is open for business! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
And you've been out in force, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
getting as much information as possible from our experts. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Because their primary job in life | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
is to make sure you do not get ripped off. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
And first in line when we opened the doors was Lisa Archer. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
After a paranormal holiday trip fell flat, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
rather than giving up the ghost, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
she came for advice from trading standards expert, Adrian Simpson. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
The coach turned up, there were no toilet facilities. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Bearing in mind there's 70 people on the coach | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
that were meant to be on there 12 hours. It took 18 hours. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
We got to Eurotunnel, it wasn't even booked. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
So instead of having the whole day to look around, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
we got there at 4:30, had a very rushed trip around. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
We've got e-mails proving they didn't even book it. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
If you promised so much to somebody and you don't get any of it, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
to me, that's not been sold properly. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
So let's go to Adrian. What do you think of this case? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
If they've failed to use reasonable care and skill, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
then they are deemed to be in breach of contract. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
You should be able to, as a consumer, claim back damages. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Which could be a refund or some money back. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
My advice would be to take it up with the business, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
perhaps by the form of a recorded-delivery letter, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
explaining the situation, detailing what happened. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-Sorry. -She's shaking her head. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
They're moved to Ireland. Nobody has their address. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
I believe people did recorded deliveries to their previous address | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
and they were being signed by different names. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
If they're based elsewhere in the European Union, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
there is an advice service called the UK European Consumer Centre. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
-Oh, OK. -They can assist you with complaints | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
against businesses based elsewhere in the European Union. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
-Stick with it. -Thank you. -Be like that terrier. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
-Bit between the teeth and keep going. -Thank you so much. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Meanwhile Andy Shenton and his family came to see | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
communications expert David McClelland. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
They're unhappy with their broadband provider which has | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
brought in a more limited data allowance. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
David, we have Andy here who's got problems with his phones | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
and his internet and you're just the man to sort him out. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I've got a broadband and telephone package. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
One of the things | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
they introduced was a 20G allowance, before that I was on unlimited, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
so I never gave it a thought until the first bill came through | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
and I was hit with a £10 surcharge for exceeding the data cap. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
I thought, well, I'll give them a ring to see what was happening. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
And they said, "Yeah | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
"because you've exceeded your data allowance. You should have | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
"had an e-mail to say you're getting close, once you get to 80%." | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
I said, "Well, I never | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
"got an e-mail." I get an e-mail to say that my bill's ready so... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
-So they do have your e-mail address? -Yes, but there's nothing to say that I'm | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
-getting close to my limit. -How do you use the internet in your | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
-house these days? -Surfing the web, watching a bit of the old iPlayer. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
We've got three children, so you can imagine they're all on their games on the internet. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-It's a massive part of our life. -Yes, definitely. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
And there's nothing that you're doing which is particularly extravagant or out of the ordinary | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
in terms of your internet usage. Speak to their customer services rep | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
and find out why you're not getting these e-mails because this is | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
a key part of you understanding your usage and say, "Look, we're going over | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
"our monthly usage. Rather than paying this £10 service charge every month, what | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
"other options are there?" If you're still not happy use your power as | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
consumers to take a look at the rest of the market to find a better deal | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
that will suit you - because loyalty counts for nothing, I'm afraid to say, these days. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
So, how does all of that strike you? Do you think you've got a plan of action out of that? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
-A plan of action, yes. -And let's face it, particularly a family with three kids, as well, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
your data usage is not going to shrink over time, it's going to carry on growing, isn't it? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
And that's something you definitely need to be conscious of | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
-when choosing your broadband package. -Yeah. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Now, let's be honest, very few of us really want to spend much time | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
making arrangements for after we pass on. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Obviously, we don't want our families to be out of pocket | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
paying for funeral costs, but really, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
sorting out all the details isn't a job that any of us relish. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Which is why life insurance products known as Over 50s Plans have | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
become so popular. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
They market themselves on their simplicity - | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
nothing complicated, just a very easy monthly payment | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
and a painless sign-up process that means you don't need to think about | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
the unthinkable for too long. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
But they may not always be the best bet. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
And it could be that thinking the unthinkable for just that little | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
bit longer could save you and your loved ones hundreds of pounds. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
I've met thousands of fascinating people and I have some wonderful | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
memories, but if you'd like to leave your loved ones | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
more than happy memories, you might want to look at this... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
It costs from £7 a month and with LV | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
there's no medical or health questions. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
They're one of the bestselling retirement products | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
on the market and with trusted faces like Sir Michael Parkinson | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
and Cilla Black fronting their ad campaigns, Over 50s Plans | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
offer reassurance, peace of mind, and security. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
You can't prepare for the grief, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
but there is a way you can ease | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
the money worries of those left behind. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
And Parky and Cilla are in good company. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Now, you may remember that some years back, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
I also advertised an Over 50s Plan. The idea is quite simple, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
each month you pay in a small amount of money and then at the end of your | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
life it pays out a lump sum to your family to cover things like funeral | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
costs and so on. But what I didn't realise and maybe those of you who have taken out | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
an Over 50s Plan don't realise either, is that what you pay in | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
in your lifetime, can be a lot more than your family actually get out. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
They work like this. The amount you get as a lump sum stays the same. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
It's fixed, in other words. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
But, the amount you pay in each month is fixed at a set rate as well. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
So, the longer you live, the more you end up paying. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Because after a certain point you'll start paying in MORE than | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
the lump sum is worth. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
It's called the break even point. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Margaret Seamen took out an Over 50s plan back in 1997, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
as did her husband John. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
They were together for 65 years after a rather sweet chance | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
encounter in a London tube station. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
He had a doughnut in his pocket... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
..and he pulled it out of his pocket and I said | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
"That's rather nice, I haven't had a doughnut for six years!" | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
So, that was the first day. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
So a doughnut started it all, eh? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
And I'm still quite fond of doughnuts now. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
They married six weeks later after this meeting. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
And many happy years followed. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
Then in September 1997, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
they both took out the Sun Life Guaranteed Over 50s Plan. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
And how much were you paying into the fund? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
£14 a month. But we thought, "If one of us dies, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
"we will help to pay for the funeral expenses." | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
But when 14 years later, John passed away, at the age of 89, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
daughter Charmaine got a shock. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
The money they had got back was little more than HALF of what John paid in. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
What amount did they give you? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
Erm, £1,200 and a few pence. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
And, we worked it out that he'd actually paid in | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
about £2,300. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
And I don't think that the policy, that it | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
was explained quite how it would work. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
This business about continuing to pay in after you've reached | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
the sum that you're going to get back, it wasn't made clear at all. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
Although it was unclear to Margaret, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
this fact WAS stated in the policy documents she signed. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
And she soon realised that the fixed value of her own plan was | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
only ever going to be £1,650, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
no matter how much she paid in. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
As it was a plan for life, she'd be making payments for ever - | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
long after she'd paid in more than the policy would ever pay out. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
So you felt cheated and... | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
I felt cheated, yes. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
But I felt, also, pretty helpless. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Now, in 2009, the Financial Services Authority told the companies | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
that they had to make it very clear in their advertising that what | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
you paid in wasn't necessarily what your loved ones would get back out. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
As of March 2014 all providers have had to implement | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
guidance drawn up by the Association of British Insurers which | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
should make it crystal clear that this is an insurance plan | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
and NOT a way to save. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
We looked at the website of five top providers of Over 50s Plans, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
including Sun Life. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
And the required warning IS now clearly evident on their websites. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
They're included in the adverts, as well, in the small | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
print at the bottom of the screen. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
And there's no doubt that despite criticism, Over 50s Plans | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
are still an incredibly popular product - with more than | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
439,000 of them being sold last year. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
But financial expert Ros Altmann is very worried that not everyone | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
who's bought one fully appreciates what they've signed up to. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
I think a lot of families feel miffed, they think, "Well, my dad | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
"paid in nearly £4,000 and yet we're only getting £1,800", | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
or whatever it is. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
So, apart from the pain of losing a loved one, they really feel | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
the misery of not getting as much money out as the person paid in. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
Yes, I think a lot of families end up being quite shocked | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
when they calculate how much money was actually paid into the plan | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
and then how much they get out of it. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
And they are very upset to find that there's nothing | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
they can do about it. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
And that's what's happened to Margaret. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Having paid in £2,300 already, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
she decided to stop the payments. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
We just told my mum to stop paying because we didn't see | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
the point of her continuing to throw money away like that. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
But by doing so she broke the contract | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
and her family will now only get £642 when she dies, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
That's nearly £1,700 less than the total she paid in so far. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
The family complained to Sun Life and got nowhere. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Our complaints weren't upheld because that is what the policy was | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
and so, legally, that was absolutely right | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
but we just think that it's not fair and people need to be made aware. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:35 | |
We contacted Sun Life Direct, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
who no longer run Margaret's policy but they did at the time she bought it. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
They told us that they're very sorry to hear | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
she was disappointed with her plan, but stressed that it is more common | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
for their customers to get back more than they actually paid in - | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
although... | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
Of course, if you DON'T live too much longer after taking | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
one of these policies out, it could feasibly end up paying out | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
MORE than you'd paid in. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
So, before buying one, it's absolutely crucial that you understand exactly how it works | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
so that you can decide if it's the most appropriate product for you. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
And keep in mind that | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
if you're just looking for a way to leave something behind to | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
cover funeral expenses and the like, there are other options. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
There are conventional funeral plans which you can take out which | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
mean that the plan itself will cover the cost of your funeral. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:33 | |
One alternative, if you're only in your 50s or maybe 60s... | 0:31:33 | 0:31:39 | |
is to just put the money in a savings account. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
And, then, over time, that will mount up and if you do live an | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
average life expectancy - you'll then leave a lump sum for your family. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:52 | |
For Ros that gives a bit more certainty than Over 50s Plans | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
where the benefit depends on how long you live for. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
It seems ironic that you have to die at the right time. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
That's the problem - none of us know when we're going to die. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
And it is really quite sad to think that a lot of them | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
end up living a long time, which is great news, but then being really | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
disappointed, that what they thought | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
was putting their money into something sensible, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
turns out to be or feels like, for them, to be a bit of a rip off. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:27 | |
We've put together a free booklet of tips | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
and advice to help safeguard your hard-earned money. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
You can download it from our website... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Or, for a hard copy, send a stamped, self-addressed | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
A5 envelope to the address we'll give at the end of the programme. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
You'll also find on the website lots more information on the topics | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
we've tackled throughout the series, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
with plenty of tips on how to save money - and avoid being caught out. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
Moving into any new building is always pretty exciting, isn't it? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
But if it's brand-new, and not even built yet, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
then you might well have to trust the developer's design drawings | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
to really get a picture of how your new home is going to look. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
And those plans SHOULD give you a pretty good idea of important things | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
like the size of the rooms, the layout of the building and | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
if it's a block of flats then the location of lifts and fire escapes. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
But unfortunately, even when something appears to be | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
shown very clearly on the plan, that doesn't necessarily | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
mean that it is going to end up being included in the finished building. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
As the bitterly disappointed residents of one | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
block in Huddersfield have found out. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
Nestled in a valley on the edge of the Yorkshire countryside, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Waterside Mill is part of an historic complex of former textile mills. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
But, unlike the two other mills in the development, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
THIS building has never produced so much as a thread... because it | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
was only built in 2012. When the old mills next door were redeveloped, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
this new block of 16 apartments was added. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
But some residents don't feel that everything about their smart | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
new homes is quite what they were expecting. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
And, top of their list of frustrations is | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
what's behind this white panel. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
We think this is the door that should be a lift door | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
but it's not. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
We know that the lift shaft is there, the wiring's there. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
Why we haven't got a lift, we don't know. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
The mystery of the empty lift shaft has frustrated | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
several of the residents of Waterside Mill. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Janet Porteus and her husband Barrie live on the lower-ground floor | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
and they say one reason they moved in was | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
because they believed a lift would be present. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
We have to negotiate two flights of stairs to get | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
out of our apartment and, obviously, two flights of stairs, down with shopping, to our apartment | 0:34:51 | 0:34:57 | |
which we're finding difficult and it's going to get | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
more difficult as we get older, I'm sure. This is why we want the lift. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
The building's developers, PJ Livesey, insist that a lift was | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
NEVER on the cards and they just built the lift shaft in case | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
residents wanted to install their own lift at a later date. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
But this is news to residents, many of whom were convinced that | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
a lift WOULD be present. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
After all, one IS shown on the plans. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
We have a plan on our lease... which clearly shows... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
..the lift in situ. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
We feel like this is what we've paid for so why on earth isn't it here? | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
Two floors above Janet and Barrie live Dave and Pam. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
They too think the developers should have installed a lift. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
We have now been here 12 months, and no sign of installation of the lift. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
-We have great difficulty with my wife with her shopping. -Yeah. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
And, certainly, our disabled friends are not able to visit us. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
One floor up at the top of the building | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
lives 23-year-old Anthony Schofield. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
The stairs don't pose him with a huge problem but he does say that he would | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
have thought twice if he'd known that the lift would not be installed. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
Personally, I would never have bought an apartment on the top floor | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
without a lift, so it's just disappointing. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
A lift is even referred to in the residents' tenancy agreement. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
We can only use the lift for the relevant amount of people | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
specified in the lift and to not carry furniture in the lift | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
and then there's no lift, so it seems daft that there's a contract that | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
we've all signed up to and there's not actually a lift for us to use. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Anthony and other residents are adamant | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
that they were told by various sales reps that a lift WOULD be installed. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
The developers totally reject that. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
Either way, Anthony was | 0:36:44 | 0:36:45 | |
so determined to get to the bottom of the mystery of the missing lift | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
that he employed a solicitor to take up the case. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
The developer's solicitors have just come back saying that they | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
built a lift shaft for the purpose of the residents | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
if we ever wanted to put in a lift ourselves, we could do. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
Other buildings in the development DO have lifts, but the developer, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
PJ Livesey, say that the flats in those buildings were specifically marketed | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
as having lifts, and as a result, they were more expensive to buy. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
The developers say that residents shouldn't have ASSUMED | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
that they were getting a lift, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
and if they'd checked when they bought the properties, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
they would have been informed that there were no plans to install one. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
Property expert Henry Pryor says this is a classic example | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
of buyers or their legal advisors not asking enough questions. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
A new development is a living thing, it's evolving through | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
the planning and build process. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
And, inevitably, therefore you need to be double sure, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
doubly sure that what you are going to be given is what you've ordered. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
Make sure that when people are giving you the undertaking or | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
the impression that they're going to deliver gardens or certain | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
levels of kitchen, that that is, in fact, what they're committed | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
to do, and you need to talk to your lawyer and ask probing | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
and searching questions of the builder and the developer. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
At the end of the day you're parting with a considerable amount of money, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
much of which you will have borrowed from a bank or | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
building society. It's up to you to ensure that you are getting | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
what you think you have ordered and what you've paid for. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Back at Waterside Mill the empty lift shaft isn't the only | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
problem they've had with the development since it was finished. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
That obscure-looking concrete structure in the middle | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
of the reservoir SHOULD be supporting a walkway which was | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
designed to take residents over the water and out of the development. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
But the walkway HASN'T been finished, meaning that | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
if residents want to leave the site on foot, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
they can either take a long detour through | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
the rest of the development or try and negotiate the edge of THIS road. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
You've got a blind bend there that you cannot see round. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
If the walkway came over... the pond... | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
it would actually exit at the top by the gates. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
So the people would not be in danger in this area. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
Plus the water beside the buildings, initially a haven for wildlife, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
has been left looking rather scruffy, as has what was | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
supposed to be visitor parking. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
A building tip behind, that the builders have left from | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
when they was building our apartments. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
Put together, residents say that these problems are ruining | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
their enjoyment of the homes that otherwise they love. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
When we put all the residents' complaints to the building | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
developers, PJ Livesey, they reiterated that there was never any | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
intention to install a lift in the empty lift shaft - and that, despite | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
what some residents claim, no sales representative said otherwise. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
They also said that when the lease agreement refers to the lift, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
those references... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
And they pointed out that | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
because the entrance to the building is on the first floor, no resident | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
has to walk more than two floors up or down to their apartment. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
But there was good news too. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
The company agreed that the cordoned-off waste ground | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
in the corner of the car park was "unsightly". | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
And since we got in touch, they've cleared up the whole of that | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
area, and refilled and cleared up the reservoir. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Plus, they've assured us | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
that work to construct the walkway will happen before the end of 2014. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
So that's most of the residents' concerns resolved. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Except, of course, for that lift. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
We shouldn't be having to deal with all these problems | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
when we've got a beautiful apartment. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
No problems with the apartment or the building, it's just | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
the areas that aren't finished off and we do really need this lift. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
more of your stories. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
And we'd especially like to hear from you if you've had | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
a problem on holiday or while travelling at home or abroad. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
So if you feel let down by your airline, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
disappointed that the hotel looked very different from the glossy | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
pictures in the brochure, or maybe you're angry about hidden charges | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
that weren't clear when you booked. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
You can write to us. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Or you can send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
Now, when you're spending your hard-earned cash you want to be sure | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
of exactly what you're getting before you hand over a single penny. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
So whether it's a used car or indeed that new puppy, hopefully | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
you're now in a better position to know what to ask or look out for to | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
be totally confident that you'll end up with what you thought you would. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
But, in fact, however well prepared you are there are going to be | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
those unexpected situations where you find yourself out of pocket, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
short changed, or thoroughly ripped off. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
And those are exactly the times when we are here to try and help. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
And you never know, it could be your story that we feature | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
in one of our future programmes - which are going to include | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
a week of live shows coming up very soon. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
As well as even more consumer reports in our Food and Holidays series | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
next year. And as all of our stories come from you, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
please do keep sending us all your letters and e-mails, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
they really are the lifeblood of this programme. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
And we'll do our very best to look into as many of them as we can. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
But until the next time, from all the team here, and from us, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
-bye-bye. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 |