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'We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
'and you've contacted us in your thousands.' | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
'You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
'and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch.' | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
There's a lot of blurb written down, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
but in practice, the words are absolutely meaningless. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
I mean, people just can't afford these prices. It's ridiculous. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
'You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
'and investigate the extra charges that you'd say are unfair.' | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
They're in a win-win situation and you're in a lose-lose situation. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
If you don't do something about it, I think it's your own fault. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
'And when you've lost out, but nobody else is to blame, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
'you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.' | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'So, whether it's a blatant rip off or a genuine mistake...' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
'..we're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
'and what you can do it.' | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
'Your stories, your money. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
'This is Rip-Off Britain.' | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
the programme that fights your corner, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
whenever you've spent your hard-earned cash | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
on something that does not live up to expectations. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Now, sometimes, of course, accidents will happen | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
and mistakes are made that really turn out to be nobody's fault. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
And in situations like that, there's absolutely no reason at all | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
why it should be you that's out of pocket. Would you agree? | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
I'd totally agree with that. Which is where warranties, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
guarantees and insurance come in, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
giving us all peace of mind that we won't have to | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
pick up the bill for problems that crop up once we're covered. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Now, often we pay a bit extra to get that peace of mind. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
But an awful lot of you have been telling us that when you've tried to | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
claim on it, different story altogether. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
It turns out you are not covered in quite the way you expected. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Begging, of course, the big question, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
what is the point of having a guarantee | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
if it doesn't really guarantee what you thought it did? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Good one. Well, it's a question we're going to be | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
getting to the bottom of today. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
If you've spent months, or even years, paying for | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
some sort of warranty, you'll want to know it'll do what it says | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
on the tin when something goes wrong. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
But it doesn't always work out that way. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
We'll be finding out why. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
And we'll also have plenty of advice on whether the sort of guarantee that | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
costs extra is really worth it. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
'Coming up, the fragile deliveries that arrive smashed. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
'What are the courier companies doing to them?' | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
They've got to start treating people's parcels with respect, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
not using them as rugby balls or footballs. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
'And millions of us buy extended warranties every year. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
'But are they worth the money?' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
I was so frustrated and so angry, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
I was in tears. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
One topic that, year after year, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
gets an awful lot of you hot under the collar | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
is that of delivery companies. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
Whether it's because they haven't come when they said they would, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
or you'll recognise this one, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
you've had to sit around all day waiting, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
or they've damaged, in the end, what they were carrying, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
they can drive some of you absolutely mad. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Not least because, when it comes down to it, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
they're only in business, after all, to do just one thing - | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
get that package from A to B, on time and in one piece. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
'Peter Rumsey runs Rainbows End, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
'a small gift shop in North Yorkshire.' | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Thank you very much, indeed, young man. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-Have a good day. -Thank you. -Bye. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
'Three years ago, Peter decided the shop needed to diversify. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
'And that's when he started to sell ornate Tiffany-style lamps.' | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
I've never looked back with it. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Everybody loves Tiffany lighting - everybody. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
'Peter now buys and sells around 300 Tiffany-style lamps every year.' | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
Once I have refurbed them and put them onto a base, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I can sell them anything up to £300. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
'With most of Peter's stock coming from individual second-hand sellers, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
'he has to rely on the care and attention of courier companies | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
'to deliver the lamps safe and sound. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
'And that is the problem. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
'Because Peter says, even if they're labelled as fragile, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
'about four out of ten of the delicate lamps he buys | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
'arrive broken.' | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Smashed. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
Smashed. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
"Handle with care." Smashed. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
'The cellar of the shop has become the final resting place | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
'for these shattered shades and battered lamps.' | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
When I open a box and I see the damage done, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
it really, really hurts. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
You think to yourself, all that time to make | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
that beautiful shade and somebody has smashed it within a few seconds. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Just sheer, utter carelessness. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
'And as a result, Peter says his business is | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
'losing money hand over fist.' | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
Unfortunately, I have to recoup that money by putting | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
the price of the other lamps in the shop up. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
That is disgraceful. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
That has really annoyed me. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
It has to have been stood on! | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
There's no other possibility! | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
'With so many of Peter's lamps getting damaged in transit, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
'he lays the blame squarely in one place - | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
'the courier companies.' | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
GLASS RATTLES | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
'Peter books most of his deliveries and collections | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
'through a site called Parcel2Go.com, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
'who work with most of the best-known courier companies. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
'Peter always tells Parcel2Go exactly what's inside the package, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
'trusting that they'll pass on this information to the courier, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
'so they know to handle his delivery very carefully. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
'This is even more important if the person sending a package to him | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
'hasn't done their bit to keep the contents safe.' | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
I had a Tiffany lamp sent to me in a black bin liner. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
Who sends a Tiffany lamp in a black bin liner? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
'Good question. But in an attempt to limit breakages, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
'Peter resorted to sending instructions to the people | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
'he was buying lamps from, so that they could wrap them more securely. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
'When that didn't work, he even started sending them | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
'the bubble wrap and the packaging that he uses | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
'when sending lamps to his own customers.' | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
I just hope this gets to the customer in one piece. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
I've done everything I can possible | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
and as you can see, it's not moving about, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
it's perfectly well packed. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
That should outlast a tank. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
But can it outlast a courier company? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
'When you wrap following Peter's instructions, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
'it's hard to understand how the lamps he sends and receives | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
'can still get broken. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
'But they do. Every week. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
'So just how roughly would the courier companies have to | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'handle a package like this one to break what's inside? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
'Well, I'm going to put that to the test.' | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
What we're going to try and do, as an experiment now, is to actually | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
see if it does break when I shove it on to the floor. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
So, here we go. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
PARCEL THUDS | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
Hey, presto. Not a break, nothing. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Beautiful. Perfect condition. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
'So far so good, but what happens if we drop it from a higher height?' | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
Here it comes. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
Hey, presto, it's still intact! | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Marvellous, look at that! Not a break in sight. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
So, what does it take to break | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
a lampshade that's been properly packaged? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Now, let's put this one under serious pressure. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Well, I suppose you could say this is the ultimate test, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
because I've come to the depths of Kent to an amateur boxing club | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
so can I just say, "Hi, everybody, how are you doing?" | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
CROWD: Hi! | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-Are you ready for this test? -CROWD: Yes. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
You can do whatever you want with this box so here we go. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
MUSIC: Gonna Fly Now by Bill Conti | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
CROWD SHOUTS ENCOURAGEMENT | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
Stop! Stop! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
GLORIA LAUGHS | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Rip it open. Let's see. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Oh, one broken bit! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
It's taken a lot of abuse. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
But thank you very much for testing it out for me. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
I'll send you the bill, accordingly, is that all right? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
GLORIA LAUGHS | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
I have to tell you, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
that package took a real pounding to get even the smallest breakage. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
So, considering that Peter sometimes gets them smashed into pieces, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
it's hard to imagine what sort of treatment | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
they must have had along the way. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
They know what's in it because it's written on the boxes. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
If it says, "Tiffany shade - handle with care", | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
it doesn't mean you have to use it as a rugby ball and drop kick it. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Now, you'd be forgiven for thinking that Peter's damaged deliveries | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
would be insured and he would be reimbursed for the shattered shades, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
but that's simply not the case. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
You see, Parcel2Go has an extensive list of items | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
they will not compensate customers for if they arrive broken | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and on that list, along with "fragile items," | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
are things like food, concrete and lamps. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
The same goes for most of the courier companies | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
that Parcel2Go use to deliver Peter's goods. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Their exclusion lists also mean | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
that the Tiffany-style shades will not be covered. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
So, every time Peter takes delivery of a lamp that he's bought, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
or sends one out to a customer, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
all he can do is to hope that the couriers realise what is inside | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and take care of it. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
You dread it every other day waiting for that message - | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
"Oh, I'm really sorry to say your lamp's arrived and it's smashed." | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
It's like part of me's been smashed. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
It's costing me thousands through courier companies' negligence. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
It's the only way I can put it down to. That's my personal opinion. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
We contacted Parcel2Go about Peter's claims | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
and they said that they do pass on information | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
about what is in the package to the courier companies they work with. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
They agree it's unacceptable for his parcels to routinely arrive damaged, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
but said that, overall, just 0.2% of the parcels they ship | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
suffer damage in transit. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
They point out that, in some cases, parcels could be handled by... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
..and therefore... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
They also told us that, regardless of whether a damaged item | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
is on the list of items that are not covered for damage, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
they will... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
..and... | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
They said that Peter has twice successfully claimed | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
for damaged parcels that were on the no-compensation list. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Although Peter says that's because, in both cases, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
the goods were, in fact, lost altogether. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
So, if you want to send a fragile package by courier, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
what should you do to ensure that it arrives in one piece? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
David Stubbs is a postal sector expert. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
They've got to do things quickly and cheaply | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
and they can't do it with the same sort of individual care | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
and attention that you might need for your type of package or parcel. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
I would pick up the phone and talk to some of the senior people | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
from these companies and say, "Look, I'm trying to do this, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
"I want to use you, can you adapt your service in a way that suits me?" | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
But Peter remains frustrated that the courier companies | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
he's dealt with aren't all they're cracked up to be. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
They've got to start treating people's parcels with respect, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
deliver them as they would their own. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
If you buy a TV, a washing machine | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
or, indeed, pretty much any electrical item | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
from most of the big-name stores, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
chances are you'll also be offered | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
what's known as an extended warranty. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
And it can really feel very hard to say no | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
when the salespeople are doing their very best to convince you | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
that you really do need to pay that little bit extra to buy yourself | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
peace of mind, just in case your new purchase unexpectedly breaks down. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
So, the question is, is it worth taking out a warranty? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
And if you decide that the answer's yes, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
how long is it worth signing up for? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Because as our next case found out, knowing when to draw the line | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
could actually save you hundreds of pounds. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Doting grandma Patricia Lee from Gravesend is just | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
one of the people to tell us | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
that they've been left questioning the point of an extended warranty, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
though she and partner Patrick have had quite a few of them. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Ten years ago, they splashed out on a brand-new fitted kitchen. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
And when the washing machine, cooker and dishwasher's standard guarantees | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
eventually came to an end, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
they decided to take out extended warranties to cover them. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
We decided it would be in our best interest and prudent | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
to take out extended warranties, so that we could relax | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
and know that, if something went wrong, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
somebody would come and fix it | 0:12:35 | 0:12:36 | |
and that was what we wanted, that's what we were paying for. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Over the years, Patricia and Patrick have paid out | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
over £1,500 to cover those kitchen warranties. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
But there was a good reason why they were doing it. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Patricia has multiple sclerosis and Patrick cares for her full-time. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
So, they depend on everything working properly, while having | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
the security of knowing that they'll be covered if anything goes wrong. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
And bar a few minor repairs along the way, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
it was ten years before one of their appliances needed serious attention. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
I smelt a funny smell and thought something was burning | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
so, to avoid hollering down the stairs, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
I rang him on the mobile phone, and said, "Are you burning something?" | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
and he said, "No, don't worry, it's the dishwasher." | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
He said, "It's turned it off now | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
"and I've opened the doors and the windows." | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
After four years of paying for the dishwasher's | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
extended warranty every single month, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
the couple were confident it would now do the job it was there for. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
And over the next few weeks, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
the company they had the warranties with, Domestic and General, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
sent round a number of engineers who attempted to fix the fault. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
But they had no success, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
leaving Patricia and Patrick stuck without a working dishwasher. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
It was horrendous because my husband has to do all the shopping, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
all the cooking, all the washing. I'm not able to do that. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
And to expect him to do all the washing-up was just too much. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
37 days after it broke, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Domestic and General agreed that the dishwasher was beyond repair. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
They had agreed that if that repair was not successful, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:20 | |
it would be written off and they would supply a new one. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Patricia and Patrick assumed | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
that they wouldn't have to pay for anything. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
But in fact although their warranty did cover | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
the replacement of the dishwasher, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
it didn't cover the cost of delivery or connection of the new appliance | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
or indeed disposal of the old one. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
They would have to pay extra for all of that, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
plus, of course, keep paying the rest of that year's premiums | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
for the warranty. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
I was in tears, to be honest, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
I was so frustrated and so angry, I was in tears. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, over the years, we've spent about £620 | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and we could have easily had a new dishwasher with that money, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
had it installed and all the rest of it. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
In the end, the couple came to an arrangement for a cash payment | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
from Domestic and General, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
allowing them to buy a new dishwasher from another retailer, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
who even took away their old dishwasher for free. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
Life can be very difficult for me | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
and this is the last thing that we needed, really. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
When we asked Domestic and General about Patricia and Patrick's case, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
they told us they were very sorry | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
to learn of the couple's dissatisfaction, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
not least because they have been... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
..and the company "has taken pride in the support" they provided. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
They pointed out that... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
..the couple have needed their help in the past, Domestic and General... | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
But they went on to say that they... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
..that Patricia and Patrick had to wait so long | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
for their dishwasher to be deemed unfixable. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
So, they've not only apologised for that | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
but agreed to... | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
And they've thrown in a free five-year warranty for it, as well. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Now, just like Patrick and Patricia, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
many of us will carry on forking out year after year after year | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
on cover for those good, old, faithful appliances. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
In fact, we've spoken to one family who, by now, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
have paid a total of over £600 for a warranty on a tumble dryer | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
that's 17 years old. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
A replacement would cost just under a third of that. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
All of which, of course, begs the question - | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
at what point does a warranty stop | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
being something worth bothering about? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Consumer group Which? looked into the extended warranties market | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
recently and came up with a very surprising conclusion. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Which? doesn't believe that it's worth buying an extended warranty. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
Firstly, you're covered by the law | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
if your good breaks down or is faulty. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Under the Sale Of Goods Act, you've got time to get a refund | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
if your washing machine or TV breaks down within four weeks. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
And after that, you're entitled to get it replaced or repaired, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
up to six years, so you've got a lot of protection under the law. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Secondly, most goods that you buy, such as TVs | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
and washing machines, are pretty reliable these days | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
and pretty cheap and, therefore, the likelihood that your item | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
is going to break down in the first place is relatively low. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
So, think carefully when you're being offered this | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
kind of product, whether or not it's the right thing for you. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
But millions of us buy extended warranties every year. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
So how many of us have stopped to work out if it's cost-effective? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
Later in the programme, we'll find out. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I bought a laptop the other day. The price that you pay for the laptop | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
and the warranty for two years, it works out the same. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
You might as well just buy a new one. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain... A wedding dress lost on the way | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
to the dry cleaners. Who's to blame and how to put it right? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I don't want the money. I said to her, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
"If I accept the money, I'm saying goodbye to my dress for ever" | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
"and it just means so much more to me than being stowed in a loft." | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
For one weekend only, we've opened up our pop-up shop, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
this time in the West Midlands. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Good morning, everybody. How are you? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Thank you all for coming. The shop is open. In you go. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
'Our team of experts was kept busy giving | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
'advice inside the shop, as well as running workshops outside, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
'where travel journalist Alison Rice had this top tip about the best | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
'time to buy your travel insurance - and it isn't just before you go.' | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
You need to buy your policy just after you've booked your holiday, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
because if you have to cancel the holiday through illness, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
a bad accident, you will be covered for cancellation fees. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
'And along with our legal expert Gary Rycroft, I donned a hard hat, to dish out advice to make sure that | 0:18:57 | 0:19:03 | |
'when you book any sort of tradesman everything goes to plan.' | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Supposing it does all go horribly wrong, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
how should people set about trying to get things right? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
If it all goes wrong, it's all about evidence, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
so it's being savvy from the outset. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
So, it's a good idea to have a contract that sets out what's | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
been agreed between the parties. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
What's the service being provided | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
and what are you paying for that service? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
'Back at the shop, Helena Jones came to see financial expert James Daley. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
'Her car keeps having the same fault, so she wants to know how | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
'she can get her garage to fix it, once and for all.' | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
It revs when I first put it on, it doesn't hold its bite point right. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
It just doesn't drive right. It has been fixed multiple times. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
I'm charged every time to try and fix the problem. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-Was it brand-new when you bought it? -Brand-new. -How old is it now? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
It is just over five and a half years old. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
How many times do you reckon you've had it in to be fixed? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
-Six, seven, eight times. -It's a recurring problem. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
-It's a recurring problem. -OK. Right, James? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
This sounds like awful story. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
-Firstly, how much have you spent on this? -Hundreds. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
There's a piece of legislation called the Supply Of Goods And Services Act. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
What that says is that if they are making a repair | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
they need to do it with reasonable skill and care. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
In this case, given that you've had the same fault happening again | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and again, there's a good case to be made that | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
they never repaired it properly in the first place. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
That actually there's something more substantial wrong with the vehicle. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
What you need to do at this point is write them a letter and say, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
"If you don't get this sorted once and for all and refund me | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
"that money that I've spent over the last few years, I'm going to | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
"take you to the small claims court." | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
And make sure you reference the Supply Of Goods And Services Act. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
'Just sending a letter might do the trick, but if not taking a case through | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
'the small claims court doesn't have to be expensive.' | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
If you're making a claim through the small claims court | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
of between £500 and £1,000, it costs you just £60 to do it online. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
I'd say you've got a good chance of getting your money back here | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
because they do seem to be in breach of that piece of legislation | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
and that's what that piece of legislation was designed to do, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
protect people in your situation. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
-If you manage to get somewhere, will you let us know? -Yes. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
We like to follow through on the programme and just see what results people get. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
Thanks for your time. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
Every year, billions of letters and parcels are sent round the UK, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
so it's perhaps no surprise that some do go missing. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
We can probably accept the risk of an everyday letter getting lost, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
but when it comes to sending a particularly valuable or | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
sentimental item, paying more for a courier to hand-deliver them can | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
give you the peace of mind that your precious item will arrive safely. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
You'd expect everything to go to plan. But sometimes it doesn't | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
and the very thing you paid to keep safe can somehow end up lost for ever. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
'Every bride-to-be searches long and hard for the perfect wedding dress, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
'but Jessica Barnes went that little bit further than most, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
'almost a thousand miles further in fact.' | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
We started off with going out to Italy | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
and we went to a beautiful wedding dress shop out there. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
Jessica knew what she wanted. But nothing she saw was right. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
We thought we had the image of being in Italy, thinking, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
"Oh, famous for their dresses," and we thought we'd definitely find | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
what we wanted there but it was a disaster. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
So it was back home, in a little boutique in Leicester, that Jessica | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
was amazed to finally find her dream dress. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
It's the fairy-tale story where everybody says, "You just know," and I did. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
I just totally fell in love with it. Then Mum cried. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
I looked at Mum and she started crying and I said, "That's it, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
"that's definitely the one." | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
So you had a wonderful dress, the day dawns, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
you're going put it on, you finally get to wear it - what does it feel like? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Oh, incredible. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
I never envisaged, having tried it on in the shop, that I would feel | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
that special in it. It was just the best feeling in the world. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
The dress was a huge success and their wedding, set beside | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
Lake Maggiore in the Italian Alps, was a dream come true for Jessica | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
and her new husband Stewart. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
And once the big day and the honeymoon were over, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Jessica had special plans for what she was going to do with the dress. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
I wanted to have the big train cut off | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
and made into a christening gown for any future children we might have. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Their baby Francesca was born in April, almost two years after the wedding. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
But Jessica had been making plans to turn her dress | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
into a christening gown months before she even knew she was pregnant. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
I researched into who would be the best people to dry-clean my dress, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
because it was so specific with the lace. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
I agonised for months over whether to have it done. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
I was scared the lace was going to get damaged. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
After scouring the internet, Jessica finally found a company | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
she was happy to trust with her dress - Atlantic Dry Cleaners, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
based in Southampton. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
You make the order online and they arrange for it to be collected from your home address, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:25 | |
which they informed me will be UPS, which I was more than happy with. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
'As arranged, UPS, who describe themselves as the largest | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
'package delivery company in the world, collected the dress | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
'and, as far as Jessica knew, took it to the cleaners.' | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
At what stage did you realise it hadn't arrived | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
and something had gone wrong? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
It was only when I had a phone call | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
from the wedding dress dry cleaning company to say that they hadn't received my dress, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:50 | |
which baffled me because we'd handed it over to UPS, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
so we were really confused by the whole thing. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
They then said to me, "Don't worry we're having another delivery | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
"in a few days, hopefully your dress will be there with them then." | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
'But the dress wasn't in the next UPS delivery. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
'And Jessica couldn't understand how it could have possibly got lost.' | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
Well, a wedding dress isn't a small thing, is it? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Especially not yours which had that beautiful train, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
so the parcel must have been pretty substantial. How big was it? | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
Well, it was a big cardboard box so 3ft by 3ft, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
it was a substantial size, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
it's not something you would expect to go missing. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Jessica made frantic efforts to track down the dress. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
The cleaning company told her, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
because it had never actually arrived with them, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
all they could do was claim for the loss on their insurance. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
When I was at the absolute end of my tether | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and I didn't know what else to do, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I wrote to the CEO of UPS and their PA got in contact with me | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
and she said she would do everything she could | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
to try and get my dress back, or locate my dress. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
Unfortunately, again, that came to nothing | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
and she said to me, "To be honest, I think your best thing to do | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
"is take up the offer of the wedding dress dry cleaning company." | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
The wedding dress dry cleaners had told Jessica their insurance cover | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
would only pay out half the original value of the dress - | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
standard practice in the industry, as it had already been worn | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
and performed its original function. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Well, in the end they did offer compensation, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
but you're not willing to accept that, are you? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Absolutely not. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
I feel offering half the value of the dress is just insulting. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Even if they offered you the full amount that you paid for the dress, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
-would that help? -I don't want the money. I said to her, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
if I accept this money, I'm saying goodbye to my dress for ever | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and it just means so much more to me than being stowed in the loft, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
I wanted it to be made for my daughter and it's gone. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
When we asked UPS for an explanation, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
they told us that they deliver... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
But in this instance they... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
..for which they sincerely apologise. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
They couldn't explain what had happened to the package, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
but did offer Jessica a further goodwill payment | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
to try and restore her faith in the company, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
although they understand that... | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
For their part, Atlantic Dry Cleaners told us | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
they were devastated by the loss of Jessica's dress and that this was... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
They said that they did everything in their power to help find it, but... | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
As for compensation, they reiterated their insurers will only offer... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
..a fact which is made clear on their website. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
But in any case, they're satisfied this is... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
None of which is any comfort to Jessica, who can't understand how, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
with all the sophisticated systems courier companies have in place, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
the dress could have gone astray in the first place. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
But industry experts say that, with the number of parcels we send | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
continually rising, it's inevitable some will get lost. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
I'd like to think we're all perfect, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
but with the sort of volumes | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
that are being moved through these networks, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
inevitably there are going to be errors made. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
There is a statistic that says the claim rate | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
for missing and non-delivered goods is between 0.1% and 0.2%. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:44 | |
That may be a small number, but it's no consolation | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
if it's your parcel that goes missing. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
So there is a simple piece of advice to keep in mind | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
next time you send a package so that if a courier delivery does go wrong, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
your valuable items stand a better chance of finding their way home. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
My advice, if you're going to use a courier, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
put an address on the inside of the package, not only on the outside, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
just in case it gets lost, that will give you peace of mind. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
Meanwhile, whatever financial solution may finally be agreed for Jessica, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
it won't in any way make up for what she's lost. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
I wore that dress to marry someone who's so very special to me | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
and I wanted that to carry on through the family, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
and I wanted my daughter to wear a piece of that dress. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
There's no amount of money that can ever replace the dress. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
Millions of brand-new cars are sold in the UK every year | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
and each one comes with a manufacturer's warranty, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
giving you reassurance that, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
should your shiny new motor turn out to have a problem, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
it can be sorted out, if not straightaway, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
then certainly without too much hassle. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
It is one of the things that sets apart getting a new car | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
from buying one that's second-hand. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
But warranties are not always as clear cut | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
as you might expect them to be and while it may seem obvious to you | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
that the manufacturer should put things right, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
you could find that it's not so straightforward. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Gas engineer Nick Docherty has been running | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
his own heating and plumbing business since early 2012. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
And from the off, he was keen to make the right impression. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
The way I see it is, if someone sees me pull up in a nice, new, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
clean-looking van, it says a lot about you. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
It shows that you take pride in your work. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Nick had spent almost £16,000 on a brand-new Vauxhall Vivaro | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
which he immediately customised | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
by putting his business details on the side. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
When I turned up on the jobs, I was proud of the company | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
that I'd developed and things were looking bright. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
I had a baby on the way, everything was going well. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
So Christmas 2013 was going to be a good one. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Nick's business was doing well and his girlfriend, Naomi, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
was eight months pregnant. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I was just really happy. Harry were on his way and it were good. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
But on the night of the 30th of December, all that changed. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
Because I couldn't sleep, I noticed some flickering outside, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
well, on the window. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
So I opened the curtains and seen Nick's van on fire. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
The distress that was in her voice, it just was a panic. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
I seen the flames coming from the top of the van. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
First thing I did was run downstairs, first instinct. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Naomi called 999 as Nick tried to put the flames out | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
with his own fire extinguisher, but to no avail. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
By this time, the flames were getting out of control. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
The fire service arrived quickly, but when the flames had been put out, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
it was obvious that the engine was ruined. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
The first thing that you think | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
when you see your van on fire is, "Who's done this?" | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
I was just annoyed and angry and a load of mixed emotions, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
just thinking, "How has this happened?" | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
The fire service said the fire had started of its own accord, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
but they suggested | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
it could have been something to do with the vehicle's electrics | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
so with no sign of foul play, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
Nick tried to claim under Vauxhall's warranty. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
But it wasn't as easy as he'd anticipated. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
The days started turning into weeks and, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
with her being in the late stages of pregnancy, it was a worry for us. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
Baby Harry was born in February and whilst Nick and Naomi started to | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
get used to life as parents, Nick was still trying to get his van fixed. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
Vauxhall just said that they couldn't look at it until | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
the insurance had looked at it, but then, as soon as they had done, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
they would be in contact and arrange for it to be looked at. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
Nick called his insurer who commissioned a full inspection | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
and concluded that the fire was of an electrical nature. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
So, again, Nick was confident that Vauxhall would sort the van out | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
under his warranty. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
I thought that as soon as it was identified | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
that it wasn't malicious, then that's when Vauxhall would step in. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
But that wasn't to be. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
They just kept coming back with the same answer - | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
unless we could identify the exact component that started the fire, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
then they are not willing to get involved. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Vauxhall said the report didn't go far enough. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
They needed to see supporting evidence from a much more | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
detailed forensic inspection to identify for certain | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
which part had started the fire. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
But given the state that the van was in, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
Nick had no idea how he could go about doing that. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-I think that component is probably a cloud of smoke somewhere. -Yeah. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
Yeah, it's definitely all melted, you'll not find anything. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Instead of claiming under his warranty, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
Vauxhall recommended that Nick claim on his insurance. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
But Nick's insurance company told him that, because the van | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
was 11 months old, they would not pay the cost of a brand-new replacement. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
In fact, he would only get 13,000 as a settlement. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
But Nick was frustrated that this would leave him out of pocket, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
especially as claiming on his insurance would also | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
wipe out his no-claims bonus and push up his premiums. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
I've worked up my no-claims bonuses and I don't see why | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
I should have to up my premium for a fault that is somebody else's. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
I want a brand-new van back. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
I want what I've lost and that isn't being offered to me. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
At the end of the day, it's somebody's fault and it's not mine. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
Nick and Naomi feel stuck. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
The insurance offer is still on the table, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
but taking it would mean that Nick's business would lose over £2,500. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
That's a lot for a small firm. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
It's a mess. Look at your writing. It's disgusting. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:07 | |
Their only hope was providing Vauxhall with | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
the proof that they'd asked for. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
How can Vauxhall expect you to find the exact component | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
that started the fire when it's like that? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Every single part underneath that bonnet is melted or destroyed. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
After four months, Nick's insurance company | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
did conduct a more detailed inspection of the van. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
But this one just muddied the waters further concluding that, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
although an electrical fault couldn't be ruled out, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
it was unlikely to be the cause of the fire. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
In fact, this report found no positive proof at all | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
about what had caused the damage, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
which leaves Nick in a tricky position. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
While he firmly believes it must be down to a fault with the vehicle, | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
both the insurer and the manufacturer are adamant | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
that there is no proof of this, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
and that means the damage can't be covered by the warranty. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
Nick's insurance company didn't want to comment, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
but Vauxhall told us that a more detailed report had been | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
required because the first one was... | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
..and though that had suggested that the fire was electrical, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
there was no in-depth electrical inspection | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
to support that allegation. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
The company added that, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
though it takes all vehicle fires extremely seriously... | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
..and when they happen at night when a vehicle is parked, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
they are most likely... | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
Vauxhall went on to explain that it's normal practice | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
for the insurance company to inspect the vehicle | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
and only contact the manufacturer if they suspect the cause... | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
In this case, the insurer raised no such concern so there was | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
no reason to think it was an issue that the warranty would cover. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Nick's experiences are a reminder that | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
although the idea of a warranty sounds like a simple concept, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
in fact, it can be a lot more complicated | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
and though he remains unhappy, he now feels he has no choice | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
but to accept the insurer's offer. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
I put a lot of money into getting this van to give the business | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
the right kind of image and it's just ended up costing me so much | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
and the only bit of money that I had was money that my grandma left me | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
and we had planned with that money to buy a house, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
to put a deposit on a house and now we're not able to do that. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Earlier in the programme, we looked into extended warranties. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Every year, millions of us buy one to protect our appliances | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
'and gadgets, but how many of us really consider | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
'whether they're going to be worth it?' | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
-Did you think about taking out any kind of extra warranty? -No. -Why not? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
Because I think it is a fix, really. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
Too expensive and you can probably buy a new one by the time | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
you have bought the warranty. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
I have just taken a guarantee out on my cooker. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
-Can I ask you how much you paid? -I think it was about £70. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
And do you think that's good value? | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
If something goes wrong with the cooker, then these days, with | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
somebody coming out, you're looking at £40 or £50, just for the trip, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:37 | |
so yes. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
But even if you think a warranty sounds like it's worth it, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
how likely is it that your white goods will actually break down? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
A brand-new dishwasher only has a 14% chance of breaking down | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
in the first six years. And your washing machine, a 19% chance. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
The washing machine, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
about £18 for an extra warranty which would cost you £106 in total | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
over six years when a new washing machine will cost you 250 quid. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
-Which would you rather go for? -The brand-new one. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
I'd just buy a brand-new one because it would last another six years | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
rather than get that one fixed and it might break down again. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
If my washing machine broke down, I would just get a new one. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
But even so, around 12.5 million of us | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
have bought extended warranties in the last three years. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
In 2012, the Office of Fair Trading found that, by and large, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
the salespeople trying so hard to flog them | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
don't actually give consumers enough information, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
making it hard for them to decide for sure | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
whether the warranty is worth it. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
Consumer group Which? visited shops to see just how warranties are sold | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
and often received advice that was confusing or wrong. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
When we visited one of the retailers, we were told that, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
if you have a big party in your kitchen and somebody rips the door | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
off your washing machine, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
you will be covered under your extended warranty. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
This is simply not the case. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
Most extended warranty policies do not cover you for accidental damage. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
There are lots of exclusions in extended warranties | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
that people may not know about. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
Many of them certainly won't cover wear and tear | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
and they don't cover fire and theft. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
When we mystery-shopped a lot of retailers, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
we weren't being given this information. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
But if you still want the peace of mind | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
that your goods are protected, what else can you do? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
A good alternative to an extended warranty would be to cover | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
the goods you have purchased under your home insurance. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
This may increase your premiums a little bit, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
but it should be far cheaper than purchasing an extended warranty | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
and you will be covered for accidental damage | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
if it does occur to the thing you have bought. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories on any subject. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Are you confused over your bills, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
or just trying to wade through never-ending small print? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
It's very frustrating because it makes what should be | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
a quite simple job a lot more complicated | 0:40:53 | 0:40:54 | |
and I think some people just give up and so they don't get the best deal. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Maybe you're unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
and that so-called great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
People are buying into this, I did. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
And are they going to be as awkward with them as they were with me? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the mistakes you made with us. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
It upsets me an awful lot because, you know, I'm... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
I'm retired and I begrudge having to pay that kind of money out. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
..or you can send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
Remember that the Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:47 | |
You know, it's impossible to tell when something's going to go wrong, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
so it's very understandable that you might want the peace of mind | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
that you won't have to foot the bill if the worst happens. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
But as we've seen in the programme, when it comes to warranties, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-it really pays to read... -ALL: The small print. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
..and make sure you've got the right cover. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Because if you don't, you could end up paying over the odds | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
to be insured against just a small handful of eventualities, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
then find you've got no cover at all. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Or, worse still, end up paying more for the warranty | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
than the product it covers is actually worth. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
Which certainly would not be a good use of anybody's money! | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
But I'm afraid that is all we've got time for today. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
But you can find much more about today's programme on our website... | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
And that's also where you'll find the address | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
and any other information you need to send us your stories | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
and please do keep them coming in, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
because it could well be that it's yours that we're going to be | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
investigating on our very next programme next time. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
And until then, from all of us, goodbye. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 |