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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling totally ripped off,

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and you've contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch.

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There's a lot of blurb written down but, in practice,

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the words are absolutely meaningless.

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People just can't afford these prices. It's ridiculous.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money,

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and investigate the extra charges that you say are unfair.

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They're in a win-win situation and you're in a lose-lose situation.

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If you don't do something about it, I think it's your own fault.

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And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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So, whether it's a blatant rip off or a genuine mistake,

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we're here to find out why you're out of pocket

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money.

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This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain

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where, today, we'll be doing our best to make sure your money

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stays out of the grubby paws of the unscrupulous operators

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who have their own sights set on it. In other words - scammers.

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Indeed. Some of the scammers we're hearing about this time round

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really do take the biscuit when it comes to far-fetched promises

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and too-good-to-be-true offers.

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They seemed entirely plausible as they offered a life-changing

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opportunity or windfall,

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or even a great deal on a romantic retreat.

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But I think you can guess

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what people who took them at their word

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have received in return for their money.

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In two words, Gloria.

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Precisely nothing.

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But, of course, it was only because what they were told

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seemed so convincing

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that they handed over, in some cases, thousands of pounds.

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These were very sophisticated scams.

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So if you're the kind of person

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who reckons you could never possibly be caught out,

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I'd advise you to think again,

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because amongst today's mix,

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there'll be one that I'm quite sure would have hooked you in.

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So we'll have plenty of tips to keep your money in YOUR pocket

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and not in the scammers'.

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Coming up, on the trail

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of whoever's behind the inheritance scam

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that promises that you're in line for an unexpected windfall.

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You want him to transfer 20,000 dollars to you

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so that you can release ten million dollars to him?

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MAN ON PHONE:

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'And retracing the steps of the Valentine sweethearts,

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'whose romantic getaway ended in heartbreak,

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'thanks to a particularly nasty con.'

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I burst out crying.

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It was something that I'd been thinking for the past few hours.

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Things weren't adding up. But to hear it from somebody else,

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it was devastating.

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A big windfall completely out of the blue

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is something that most of us can really only dream of.

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So if you were suddenly to be told

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that a very wealthy, long-lost relative,

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possibly one that you didn't even know and hadn't even heard of,

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had died and left you their entire fortune,

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well, it would come as a bit of a shock, I should think.

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And indeed, the story might just be plausible enough

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to convince you that it is for real.

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Unfortunately, as we're about to find out,

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the chances are that it's actually a scam.

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And instead of coming into money, you could end up losing

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an awful lot of it.

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Luxuries like this are something that most of us can only dream of,

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but for some people, that dream really could come true.

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There are around 10,000 unclaimed inheritances in the UK

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worth hundreds of millions of pounds,

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just waiting for the rightful beneficiaries to claim them.

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But that knowledge is fuelling a global scam

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that saw almost 4,000 victims

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lose over £10 million in 2013.

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It all starts with a simple text message or e-mail,

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like the one that Vinnie Garrard received last summer.

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The sender said that his name was Franklin Cozad,

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and he claimed that he'd been asked to contact Vinnie

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by a Mrs Eunice Job.

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He told Vinnie that Eunice Job was ill and had instructed him

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to arrange a transfer to Vinnie of 11 million!

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What was your reaction when you got this text?

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I was shocked.

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I text him back saying, "Is it a joke?"

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And he says, "No, it is true."

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-But it sounded plausible?

-Yes.

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Franklin said that Vinnie would need to pay legal fees

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before the inheritance could be paid into his bank account.

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Immediately, alarm bells rang,

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and Vinnie suspected that it was a scam.

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But, on the other hand, the name Eunice Job did sound familiar

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from his childhood.

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He wasn't to know that, in fact,

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it was a name that has been used in similar scams before.

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He wanted £500 off me at first,

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-pay for the solicitors.

-Hmm.

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What was your reaction to that?

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I can't do it,

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and I'm not doing it.

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But the mysterious Franklin didn't give up.

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Every day he would call Vinnie again,

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supposedly telling him how the case was developing.

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Even so, Vinnie was still reluctant to hand over any money.

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I wanted to talk to somebody else, not just Franklin.

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I wanted to talk to his boss.

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I wanted somebody else to give me evidence of who Franklin is,

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just to see if it was true or not.

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Vinnie was introduced to three other people

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supposedly on Eunice Job's legal team,

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including Franklin's boss, a Mr Walter Van Andel.

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He told Vinnie where to transfer the money,

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but still couldn't convince him that this wasn't all a scam.

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So, to get to the bottom of what was going on,

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Vinnie came to us.

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It's been a few weeks since Vinnie last spoke to Franklin

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or his boss, Walter Van Andel.

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So I'm going to try and call them myself

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to find out just what it is they've got to say for themselves.

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Let's see how much they remember about his case.

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Mr Van Andel, I'm calling on behalf of Mr Vinnie Garrard,

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you've been in contact with him

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about an inheritance from Mrs Eunice Job.

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PHONE:

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That's correct. So are you the solicitor representing Mrs Job?

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'So far, it's as expected.

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'Vinnie had been asked for anything from £50 to £500 in the past

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'but, now I'm calling on Vinnie's behalf,

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'Mr Van Andel suddenly wants a LOT more.'

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20,000?

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20,000.

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So let me get this right,

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because I'm, at this moment,

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representing Mr Garrard.

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You want him to transfer 20,000 to you,

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so that you can release 10 million to him?

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Over a terrible phone connection,

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I gave Mr Van Andel an e-mail address

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to send us instructions for transferring the money.

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'Vinnie was told that the contact details he was given

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'for Walter Van Andel were in Belgium

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'but, somehow, I don't believe that this man is anywhere near.'

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Where are you at the moment?

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Hmm. In which country?

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SILENCE

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Mr Van Andel, which country are you in, please?

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Hello, Mr Van Andel?

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PHONE BEEPS

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-At that point, he clearly smells a rat.

-OK.

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Not going to tell me where he is.

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We tried to call back but couldn't get through,

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and no wonder, because it's absolutely certain

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that these people were not who they claimed to be.

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Indeed, we found out that the mobile number we rang

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is in fact registered in Benin, West Africa.

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And while the postal address and home number Vinnie had been given

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was indeed for a Walter Van Andel in Antwerp,

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the scammers had simply stolen the details

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of the REAL Walter Van Andel, a Belgian academic and author

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whose address is in full view on his own website.

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The scammers who almost persuaded Vinnie to part with his cash

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were able to do so because they'd built up a relationship with him

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over a couple of months,

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and they made their story even more plausible

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by giving him the names and the telephone numbers of four people

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who were supposedly on his "case".

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Though Vinnie stuck to his guns and didn't hand over any cash,

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others have paid out to the scammers.

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The official body Action Fraud advises that the easiest way

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to avoid being caught out is to ignore any approach like this

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that requires that you pay a fee,

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however convincing they may make it sound.

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So anything that results from a cold call, be it a telephone,

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a letter, a text, something on e-mail,

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which is ultimately offering you

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something that sounds too good to be true,

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or asking you for money, walk away from it.

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Absolutely, walk away from it.

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What you've got to bear in mind, a lot of these cold calls

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are computer generated.

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They're not singling you out.

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They're dialling every single number in the phone book,

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and then, when it's picked up, and it's a human voice on the end,

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they'll pass it to an operator who does the sales pitch.

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If it was genuine, you may get called back.

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If it's a scammer, they won't know who they've spoken to,

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and they won't get back to you.

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And that's advice reiterated by Vinnie,

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because even though he didn't hand over the money

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that the scammers wanted,

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just engaging with them has ended up leaving him out of pocket.

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Any idea how much it's cost you?

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Roughly...

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I'd say about £200...

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-SHE GASPS

-..in phone calls and texts.

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-So you haven't got away scot-free, have you?

-No.

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Well, as you can imagine, the people who are behind scams like these

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go to great lengths to ensure that it's really difficult

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to find out who or where they are.

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So I'm afraid we've had absolutely no joy at all

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contacting those men who wanted money from Vinnie again.

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But we did look into the bank account

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into which they'd asked him to transfer the money.

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It was a Santander account, here in the UK.

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And when we told Santander about what had happened,

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they said that that same account

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has been used for other fraudulent transactions.

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So we've told them what we know about this scam

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to prevent it being used in that way again.

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Perhaps the most effective scams we hear about

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are the ones that are extremely well organised, unquestionably convincing

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but also just that little bit brazen.

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So audacious, in fact, that you wouldn't for a moment think

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that what you're paying for might not even exist.

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But that's exactly the case with a scam

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that affected a number of couples looking for a romantic place to stay

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on Valentine's Day.

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Nestled in the Highlands,

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Loch Ness is one of Scotland's most popular tourist attractions.

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But at 23 miles long, it's also big enough

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to escape the hordes of tourists and Nessie-spotters

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for a quiet, romantic weekend away.

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And that's just what Laura and Sean Parks

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from Thirsk in North Yorkshire planned last Valentine's Day.

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This would be our first Valentine's together

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since we've been together.

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Sean's always out of the country at this time of year,

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so this one was going to be special.

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Laura didn't have to look far to find somewhere

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for the perfect Valentine's getaway.

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An ad for what sounded the ideal place

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popped up on her Facebook page.

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When I clicked on the Facebook link,

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it directed me to their website,

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which showed that he had 26 log cabins on the banks of Loch Ness.

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All had a private hot tub.

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And the Valentine's weekend break

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included meals, champagne and chocolates.

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The deal could hardly be better, £375 for three nights in the cabin,

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including a meal on the Friday night,

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a three-course, candle-lit dinner on the Saturday,

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and lunch on the Sunday.

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What's more, the page had been "liked" on Facebook

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more than 9,000 times,

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so it looked to Laura

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as though lots of people gave the cabins their stamp of approval.

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With everything looking good,

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Laura contacted the owner of the cabin, Kevin Beamont,

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to organise her romantic getaway.

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Whilst on the phone, he really reassured me that, you know,

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it was going to be a lovely weekend.

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He'd asked for my arrival time so he could have my hot tub switched on,

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my champagne on ice.

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He was really trying to make it special.

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Excited by everything on offer,

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Laura didn't think twice

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when Kevin Beamont said she couldn't pay on her credit card.

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He said that he only accepted bank transfer,

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he didn't deal with credit cards and he didn't deal with cheques

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or anything,

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so it had to be done through a bank transfer.

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So Laura transferred the money

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and, a few weeks later, revealed her surprise to Sean.

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When Laura informed me we were going to Loch Ness for a log cabin,

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I was really excited.

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The following morning, Valentine's Day itself,

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Laura and Sean were up early to start the six-hour drive to Loch Ness,

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with the address Kevin Beamont had given them

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programmed into their sat nav.

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The roads were pretty all right until we got into Scotland,

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and there was snow everywhere.

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Well, it's a few months later, and I've come up to Loch Ness myself

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to see if I can find this lodge that Laura and Sean booked.

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No snow and ice, so in theory, it ought to be quite straightforward.

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Um, that's if I can work out how to use the sat nav.

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Let's go.

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The sat nav was telling us to come off up to a hill,

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and we were getting concerned.

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I started to question whether I'd misheard,

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so we decided to drive up it,

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but that was a massive mistake.

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I started panicking.

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It was a single road,

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and when we got to the top, there was just nothing there.

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And I'm being directed up exactly the same route.

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It's remote, it's bumpy, but is it going to be romantic?

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Well, here's where the sat nav says is the place.

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It's certainly the end of the road.

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What an adventure.

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Well, I wish this was the place cos it's absolutely beautiful.

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But, sadly, time to get out the atlas.

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And a few months earlier, Sean and Laura were similarly confused.

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We carried following the road up again

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until we saw a petrol station.

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We stopped in the petrol station to see if they'd seen or heard of

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anywhere of this log cabin,

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and they didn't know anything about it either.

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Well, that was very, very interesting. I did buy a map.

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But the much most interesting part of it was that the woman in there

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told me that, back in the spring, two separate lots of couples came

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to ask for the directions to these cottages.

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She had never heard of them but what she did know was

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that the village that they're meant to be in is way back there.

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I decide to stop at a hotel I pass along the way.

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It turns out it's the same hotel Laura and Sean stopped at

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to ask directions on that very frustrating Valentine's Day.

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-I'm lost.

-You're lost?

-That probably won't come as a surprise.

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Right. A lot of people get lost here.

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I'm sure they do.

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Well, the reason I'm here is that we're following up

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-the story of a couple...

-Mm-hm.

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..actually two couples, who separately booked these cottages,

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-came up here, got into the same tangle as me...

-Yep, yep.

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..and found themselves in trouble.

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I know exactly... I know exactly what we're talking about.

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I remember this couple particularly well.

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They arrived fairly late at night.

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They'd been driving around for many, many hours,

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again with the same address and the same postcode.

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The gentleman in the hotel just said,

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"Oh, I think you may have been scammed here."

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He said, "It might not even exist."

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I burst out crying.

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It was something that I'd been thinking for the past few hours.

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Things weren't adding up, but to hear it from somebody else,

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it was devastating, wasn't it?

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Everybody's saying the same thing - they don't exist.

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The lady in the garage didn't know about them,

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Willie here didn't know about them.

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They don't exist, and it's a scandal.

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Those couples were had,

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and they've paid money over, and that's not right.

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Laura immediately called Kevin Beamont,

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the man who apparently owned the cabins

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but, of course, the number she had for his mobile no longer connected.

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She took to Facebook to try to contact him

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but noticed comments on the page from other couples

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who'd had exactly the same experience as them.

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Over the same Valentine weekend,

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this hotel was visited by four other couples,

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all looking for the same phantom log cabins.

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And they'd all been talked into paying by bank transfer,

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so none would ever see their money back.

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They all saw the cabins advertised on Facebook on a dedicated page

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that featured a large number of photos of the cabins

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and their surroundings.

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We've discovered that the pictures used on the Facebook advert

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were actually taken from five different websites,

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some of which were actually locations hundreds of miles from Loch Ness.

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Armed with those photos, it wouldn't have taken much for Beamont

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to invent a very plausible site,

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as BBC technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones explains.

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If you've got a bit of nous setting up a website

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and a Facebook page,

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scraping photos from around the web,

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uh, with a little bit of design skill,

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you can come up with something that looks very convincing.

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A convincing-looking site is one thing,

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but Laura thought the Facebook page was trustworthy

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because it was liked by over 9,000 people...

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which, she assumed, meant they were all recommending the cabins.

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But as Rory's discovered with a test,

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it's not quite as simple as that.

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I, for instance, set up a whole business called Virtual Bagel.

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It didn't do anything,

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it promised to send you bagels

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over the internet in virtual form,

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and it was there as an experiment

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to see how easy it was to get people to like your Facebook page.

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I got more than 5,000 likes pretty quickly.

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But the quality of those likes was very poor.

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They were people randomly clicking around the world.

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There are things called click farms,

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where people would actually get paid a tiny amount to click, click, click

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on all sorts of things, to like them in a scam

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which is to do with earning advertising money for people.

0:17:530:17:56

So you've got to be careful.

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It can cost surprisingly little to buy a few thousand Facebook likes

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to make your page look as though it's been endorsed.

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So it's wise to do extra checks, too.

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And here's one that would really help.

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Even if you're hundreds or even thousands of miles away,

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remember there's an easy way to do a check on any location

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without even leaving your home.

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Just about everywhere these days is on Google Street View,

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so take a ride, check their postcode,

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go to where they claim to be,

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and make sure they're really there.

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If Laura, Sean and the other couples had done that,

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they might not have fallen for the scam in the first place.

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We've tried to contact Kevin Beamont

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to ask him about his non-existent cabins

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but, unfortunately,

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just like Laura and Sean, we couldn't track him down.

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The couple are now certain to do their homework

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before booking a break online again.

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After what's happened, I think, booking online in future,

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we'll be much more cautious.

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We'll definitely be paying by a credit card

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and doing a lot more checks into it.

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As for me, well, I gave up,

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but only after I'd at least solved one Loch Ness mystery.

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Well, I've found Nessie, but where are the lodges?

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain,

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the battle to beat scam mail hots up

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with a new initiative to stop us being tricked out of our cash.

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It makes me very, very angry,

0:19:250:19:28

particularly because the people who actually run these kinds of scams

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are parasites on society.

0:19:330:19:35

Our Rip-Off Britain Pop Up Shop is back in business.

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And this year we were in the West Midlands,

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giving you the opportunity to get face-to-face advice

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from our team of experts.

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Ring them one more time, and say

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you're not going to get off the phone

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until you speak to somebody in the chief executive's office

0:19:550:19:58

or in their complaints resolution team.

0:19:580:20:01

James Ledbetter came in to see financial expert James Daley

0:20:030:20:07

for advice after buying trainers online that looked like a bargain.

0:20:070:20:11

A week or two later, the trainers arrived

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they was a completely different colour

0:20:130:20:15

to the ones where I'd ordered online,

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um, and copied trainers - no tags on them, no receipts, no box.

0:20:170:20:22

So I messaged them, saying obviously the trainer what's come

0:20:220:20:25

is not what I've ordered.

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I'll need a refund on these.

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Never replied.

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I've sent about another three messages.

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Just been blanked.

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Looking into it now on other sites,

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I think reading people's reviews, it's just a fake, dud scam.

0:20:330:20:37

Your story's not an uncommon one.

0:20:370:20:39

Obviously, the internet can be a bit of a Wild West

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when it comes to shopping.

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Either way, there's a few things that you can do here

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to get your money back.

0:20:460:20:47

What method of payment did you use, crucially?

0:20:470:20:49

It was a debit card, sorry, I should say.

0:20:490:20:52

-Ah, it was your debit card?

-Yeah, debit, yeah.

-OK.

0:20:520:20:54

There is a scheme that you can claim on

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-when you've used your debit card.

-OK.

0:20:560:20:58

-It's called the Chargeback scheme.

-Yeah.

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So you ring up your bank,

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they'll send you a form, you fill it all out,

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and they will probably give you your money back

0:21:040:21:07

-in relatively short order...

-Yeah.

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..and then, they will go back to the retailer

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and try and get the money back from them.

0:21:120:21:15

-OK.

-Now, the problem is,

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is that if they don't manage to get the money back from the retailer,

0:21:170:21:20

they'll take it back from you again. But you have to remember,

0:21:200:21:22

there are still some rogue traders out there

0:21:220:21:24

and these days their websites can look incredibly professional,

0:21:240:21:27

-you know, they'll take your money nice and easy...

-Yeah.

0:21:270:21:30

-..and it might be finding out the hard way...

-Yeah, yeah.

0:21:300:21:33

..that, actually, these guys are not legitimate.

0:21:330:21:36

It wasn't just inside our shop that we heard your complaints.

0:21:370:21:40

Outside, at our gripe corner,

0:21:400:21:42

you really let off steam about the things that irritate you.

0:21:420:21:45

The biggest rip off for me is how much we pay for car insurance.

0:21:480:21:51

We get penalised for our age.

0:21:510:21:53

We think it's a rip off.

0:21:530:21:54

I think it's a rip off that in the school holidays,

0:21:540:21:57

all the summer holidays go up in price.

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It's absolutely ridiculous.

0:21:590:22:01

Out in the heart of the shopping centre,

0:22:050:22:07

financial ombudsman Caroline Lusted-Wells

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ran a workshop on how to avoid internet scammers.

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The worst thing you can do is reply back to that e-mail

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or try and unsubscribe,

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cos as soon as you do that, they know that you're real,

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and they will just keep bombarding you with more and more e-mails.

0:22:210:22:24

D for delete is what I say.

0:22:240:22:25

You just delete it and ignore it, just get rid of it.

0:22:250:22:28

And Angela had a few tips on

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how to recognise those pesky phishing e-mails.

0:22:300:22:33

Anybody sending you an e-mail

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asking you to confirm your pin number,

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that is a phishing e-mail,

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because no company will ever ask you

0:22:400:22:42

for those details.

0:22:420:22:44

And the easy way to tell

0:22:440:22:45

whether or not it's coming from a genuine account or not

0:22:450:22:48

-is just to click on the name here, isn't it?

-Hmm, it is.

0:22:480:22:50

And if you see that it isn't from BT, or whoever, but instead,

0:22:500:22:54

it says Jemima, something or other,

0:22:540:22:56

you know that this is someone

0:22:560:22:58

who has somehow got hold of your e-mail address,

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and they're trying to get money out of you.

0:23:010:23:03

They just throw out lots of e-mails and hope that one sticks,

0:23:030:23:06

that's how they work.

0:23:060:23:07

Caroline's put together a factsheet of tips and advice.

0:23:090:23:12

You can find it on our website...

0:23:120:23:13

..along with advice from the other workshops we held

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over our pop-up weekend.

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Many times in the past on this programme,

0:23:260:23:27

we've talked about scams or spurious opportunities.

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And however disastrous the eventual consequences might be,

0:23:310:23:35

they usually all started with just a simple letter that came in the post.

0:23:350:23:40

Now, identifying and helping the people who are most affected

0:23:400:23:42

has been described as a national priority

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by a brand-new service

0:23:450:23:46

that's been set up to tackle these scams.

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Because, once you're on their mailing lists,

0:23:490:23:51

I'm afraid that the letters just keep on coming in sackfuls.

0:23:510:23:55

Pat Craven receives more post every day

0:23:560:23:59

than many people do in a week.

0:23:590:24:01

Hi, Pat. How are you today?

0:24:040:24:05

But most of what drops through the letterbox, she doesn't want.

0:24:060:24:11

Pat, I can't believe how much junk mail you've got here.

0:24:110:24:16

How long did it take for you to accumulate this lot?

0:24:160:24:19

That was, erm, three months.

0:24:190:24:22

-Three months?

-Yeah.

0:24:220:24:23

It all began when Pat was going through a rough patch,

0:24:250:24:28

and it got worse when she was housebound after an operation.

0:24:280:24:31

She started mail order shopping for presents for her family.

0:24:320:24:35

But the genuine letters about her purchases

0:24:350:24:38

were quickly followed by more letters -

0:24:380:24:40

not just about what she'd bought,

0:24:400:24:42

but telling her that she'd won big cash prizes.

0:24:420:24:45

But in order to claim those prizes,

0:24:470:24:49

she'd have to spend more money with them.

0:24:490:24:51

So how much do you think you might have spent, Pat?

0:24:520:24:55

-Too much.

-Thousands?

0:24:550:24:58

-But you never got the cheque for £13,000?

-No!

0:24:580:25:02

Within months, Pat's daily postbag had become too much.

0:25:020:25:06

And she realised that however much she'd bought,

0:25:060:25:09

the big prizes were never going to materialise.

0:25:090:25:12

Do you think you were suckered in, then?

0:25:130:25:16

That, at the beginning, you were buying things

0:25:160:25:18

and they were being delivered, and now,

0:25:180:25:20

-you're just getting the mail and the empty promises?

-Yes.

0:25:200:25:23

Oh, I have, definitely. I'll admit that.

0:25:230:25:26

I was sucked in now,

0:25:260:25:28

and I feel so stupid about it.

0:25:280:25:30

Pat's problems with scam mail are unfortunately all too common.

0:25:320:25:36

In fact, the number of us who have been taken advantage of

0:25:360:25:39

in this way has become so large

0:25:390:25:42

that Trading Standards has now set up a specialist team

0:25:420:25:45

to tackle the issue on a national scale.

0:25:450:25:48

Sophia is one of the team leaders who's responsible

0:25:480:25:51

for trying to stop the scammers from operating.

0:25:510:25:54

I've brought you Pat's mail from the last month...

0:25:540:25:59

-Wow.

-..but I see you've already got a pile there already.

0:25:590:26:02

It's a very, very big problem nationally.

0:26:020:26:05

We've got about 130,000 victims' names at present across the country.

0:26:050:26:11

People are getting mail like this on a daily basis.

0:26:110:26:14

Ten, 20, 30 letters a day.

0:26:140:26:15

At its most extreme, a single response to some scam mail

0:26:170:26:20

can lead to a daily deluge of up to 100 letters or more.

0:26:200:26:24

The reason that numbers can snowball in this way

0:26:240:26:27

is that, once you've replied to just one letter,

0:26:270:26:29

the scammers will then share your information amongst themselves.

0:26:290:26:33

You've got a particular name for these sort of lists, haven't you?

0:26:330:26:37

It's a horrible term that I'm not overly keen on,

0:26:370:26:40

and I prefer to use the word "victim list"

0:26:400:26:42

but, in the scammer's world, it's called a "suckers list".

0:26:420:26:45

Many of letters sent to victims on the so-called "suckers list"

0:26:450:26:49

originate from overseas.

0:26:490:26:51

To stop them being intercepted by the authorities,

0:26:510:26:54

they're sent in sealed containers to people referred to as enablers,

0:26:540:26:58

who then put them into the UK post.

0:26:580:27:01

Though Sophia and her team try their best to disrupt this chain,

0:27:010:27:05

it is very difficult,

0:27:050:27:06

as once the mail gets into the system,

0:27:060:27:08

it HAS to be delivered - by law.

0:27:080:27:11

But once letters like this drop through your letterbox,

0:27:110:27:14

their promises of cash and prizes can be extremely persuasive.

0:27:140:27:18

So here we have, for instance, a prize-draw entry form.

0:27:180:27:21

"Please complete all the details so you enter..."

0:27:230:27:25

"Enclose five pounds administration to activ...activate my prize draw."

0:27:250:27:30

Is that five pounds

0:27:300:27:31

and the possibility of winning a big prize,

0:27:310:27:35

is that the hook?

0:27:350:27:36

That's right, I agree. I think that is the hook.

0:27:360:27:39

They think, it's only a fiver, it's only five pounds.

0:27:390:27:41

So if you times all the five pounds, or the £25s,

0:27:410:27:44

or the different amounts of money they're sending off,

0:27:440:27:47

you know, it rolls into hundreds of pounds a week.

0:27:470:27:49

As well as the promise of prizes,

0:27:490:27:51

Sophia is constantly seeing scammers use other underhand tactics,

0:27:510:27:56

all designed to get a response from the addresses that they target.

0:27:560:27:59

The language that's used in a scammer's letter

0:28:010:28:03

is very devious, very persuasive.

0:28:030:28:05

It almost sometimes verges on blackmail.

0:28:050:28:08

They tell people to keep these things a secret.

0:28:080:28:10

"You'll miss you're chance if you don't do this today,"

0:28:100:28:13

puts those people who are replying

0:28:130:28:15

in a situation where they feel under pressure.

0:28:150:28:17

This pressure can sometimes have catastrophic financial effects.

0:28:190:28:24

Chris Beckett from Wisborough Green, in Sussex,

0:28:240:28:26

only found out the extent to which his father, Tom, had been caught out

0:28:260:28:30

by the scammers when his dad started asking if he could borrow money.

0:28:300:28:35

You know something is wrong when there is a problem paying bills.

0:28:350:28:39

I believe he probably spent in excess of £100,000.

0:28:390:28:44

When Chris discovered how badly his father had been caught out,

0:28:450:28:49

he called the police,

0:28:490:28:50

who had launched a local initiative to combat scam mail,

0:28:500:28:53

and to educate the public about it.

0:28:530:28:55

As part of that, and once he realised that he had been scammed,

0:28:550:28:59

Tom gave this interview to Sussex Police in 2011.

0:28:590:29:04

-WOMAN:

-And how often were you sending money?

0:29:040:29:07

Oh.

0:29:080:29:10

Every week, I'd say.

0:29:100:29:12

I felt that I was on a good thing, and I wasn't.

0:29:120:29:15

Um, but it's very difficult to...

0:29:150:29:18

..throw it down the drain immediately.

0:29:200:29:22

You think there is a good opportunity there

0:29:220:29:25

of getting a rather hefty cheque.

0:29:250:29:28

Tom died shortly after giving that interview,

0:29:280:29:31

at a time when Chris was still in shock

0:29:310:29:34

about the extent of his dad's spending.

0:29:340:29:36

It makes me very, very angry,

0:29:360:29:39

particularly because the people who...who actually run

0:29:390:29:42

these kinds of scams are parasites on society,

0:29:420:29:46

and they don't...

0:29:460:29:47

They have no interest in the damage that they do

0:29:470:29:51

to the person or to the family.

0:29:510:29:53

For them, it's just a money-making process,

0:29:530:29:56

and they're completely cynical about it.

0:29:560:29:59

The National Trading Standards Scams Team has now joined forces

0:29:590:30:02

with agencies ranging from the police to the Royal Mail

0:30:020:30:05

to combat this.

0:30:050:30:07

And part of their response is to understand

0:30:070:30:08

why people are drawn in by scam mail in the first place.

0:30:080:30:12

I think if you're maybe lonely or vulnerable

0:30:120:30:15

and somebody's sending you a letter every couple of days,

0:30:150:30:18

you can get quite drawn into that because it feels like a friend.

0:30:180:30:22

So would you say this is an addiction?

0:30:220:30:25

We prefer not to call it an addiction.

0:30:250:30:27

This is bullying.

0:30:270:30:29

And scams are crimes, and that's a vital message we must get across.

0:30:290:30:34

In fact, it's a crime which is big business.

0:30:340:30:37

Sophia and her team estimate that up to £10 billion

0:30:370:30:41

is sent to scammers each year

0:30:410:30:43

as a result of letters like the ones

0:30:430:30:44

that Pat and so many others respond to.

0:30:440:30:47

So if we can't stop it, then we need to do the second best thing,

0:30:480:30:51

which is to get into people's homes and say, "This is a scam."

0:30:510:30:54

Pat now knows all too well that letters like these are a scam.

0:30:550:31:00

But she was desperate to share her story

0:31:000:31:02

so that others don't fall victim in the same way that she did.

0:31:020:31:05

Yes, OK, I was a stupid person.

0:31:060:31:09

But once in a while you think,

0:31:090:31:11

"I might strike lucky."

0:31:110:31:13

-And that's what keeps tying you in?

-That's it.

0:31:140:31:16

So what would your message be to people who are still thinking,

0:31:160:31:20

"Ooh, I might get lucky?"

0:31:200:31:21

You won't get lucky. No.

0:31:210:31:24

And I just want to get the message over to people.

0:31:240:31:29

PLEASE, don't get caught like me.

0:31:290:31:32

Now, as you know, scams of all shapes and sizes

0:31:380:31:40

have been around for centuries.

0:31:400:31:42

But whether they're old or new, some of the most lucrative

0:31:420:31:45

are the ones that start off with a promise.

0:31:450:31:47

You know that one,

0:31:470:31:48

that if you put a little bit of cash in,

0:31:480:31:49

you'll get so much more out at the end.

0:31:490:31:52

And of course, that's a promise that can sound all too convincing.

0:31:520:31:55

But you have to beware.

0:31:550:31:57

These are the schemes that can cost you the most dearly

0:31:570:32:00

and leave you with absolutely nothing to show,

0:32:000:32:02

having handed over thousands of pounds.

0:32:020:32:05

This is a fast-money, big-business, high-stakes environment,

0:32:080:32:12

where fortunes can be made and lost in seconds.

0:32:120:32:15

And this...

0:32:150:32:17

is a rather less frenetic south-coast town,

0:32:170:32:20

much-loved by holiday-makers and pensioners.

0:32:200:32:23

Now, they're two very different worlds that don't often collide.

0:32:230:32:26

And former plumber Tony Boothby from Bournemouth

0:32:270:32:30

certainly wishes that he had never considered

0:32:300:32:32

chasing his fortune on the international stock market.

0:32:320:32:36

But his interest picked up

0:32:360:32:37

when he was cold called by someone offering him

0:32:370:32:40

a chance to trade on the stock market,

0:32:400:32:42

with the opportunity to make a huge return.

0:32:420:32:45

I picked up the phone,

0:32:460:32:47

and this bloke was on the other end of the phone.

0:32:470:32:50

A very...you know, a nice lad.

0:32:500:32:53

He was very plausible, and then I thought, well,

0:32:530:32:56

I'd give it a go, and go from there, really.

0:32:560:33:00

The salesman said that he was from a Barcelona-based financial business,

0:33:000:33:03

called the Eden Brown Group,

0:33:030:33:05

not to be confused with companies with a similar name.

0:33:050:33:08

He offered Tony the chance to invest in a biotech firm

0:33:080:33:11

who, apparently, were looking for a cure for cancer.

0:33:110:33:15

I just thought it was a good idea at the time to help them,

0:33:150:33:20

and help me at the same time.

0:33:200:33:22

Tony invested £5,000,

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and a few days later,

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he received a share certificate from the company.

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The share certificate was just printed out,

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but it's got all their monograms and everything

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all over the shares certificate.

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It wasn't just a plonky bit of paper,

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and it all looked pretty genuine to me.

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Delighted that his money was invested in something worthwhile,

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Tony put the certificate away and thought little more about it...

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until two months later,

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when the salesman from Eden Brown Group called yet again,

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this time offering Tony the chance to invest

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in a Canadian mining company.

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I think he wanted a bit more to start with,

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but I said, "No, I'm limiting myself to the 5,000,"

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and they said, "Well, OK.

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"We'll see if we can sort something out," of which he did do.

0:34:100:34:15

Just like last time, Tony sent off his money,

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this time around £4,100.

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And again, a share certificate soon arrived in the post.

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Like any investor, Tony wanted to track his portfolio.

0:34:230:34:27

But the website that Eden Brown Group pointed him to

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wasn't in English, so Tony couldn't quite follow it.

0:34:290:34:32

And I couldn't really understand too much what it was all about

0:34:330:34:37

because it was all just figures and goodness knows what,

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so I never really knew exactly what was going on with the share prices.

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However, when a few months later the company called Tony again,

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offering him the opportunity to invest £10,000

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in an Australian financial company, he said, "No," this time.

0:34:520:34:57

I said, "No, I've done enough.

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"I've had enough of what...the ones I've got,

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"and there's no way that I'm doing any more investing at this stage."

0:35:020:35:06

After that, the cold calls stopped

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but the brochures detailing his other investments kept coming.

0:35:100:35:13

So Tony was satisfied that his investments were working out.

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Then, in early 2013,

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the glossy brochures stopped coming as well.

0:35:180:35:21

Tony tried contacting Eden Brown Group for answers,

0:35:210:35:24

but the agent seemed elusive.

0:35:240:35:26

Any time that I tried to phone him up to find out any information,

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I just kept getting put off with

0:35:310:35:34

they was at a meeting,

0:35:340:35:36

he wasn't in that day,

0:35:360:35:37

and I just couldn't get through.

0:35:370:35:39

Fearful something might be wrong,

0:35:400:35:41

Tony started to look into the company online.

0:35:410:35:45

There was a few remarks from other individuals

0:35:450:35:48

warning other people to go very careful

0:35:480:35:52

with who they were dealing with,

0:35:520:35:54

which, I thought, "Ah, this doesn't look too good,"

0:35:540:35:57

and I was a little bit more concerned about it.

0:35:570:36:00

And that's when I tried to contact my agent again,

0:36:000:36:04

and I couldn't get him on the phone.

0:36:040:36:07

I kept getting put off, and then, all of a sudden,

0:36:070:36:10

the number had just gone dead.

0:36:100:36:11

With the company's phones suddenly disconnected,

0:36:120:36:15

Tony came to a horrible realisation.

0:36:150:36:17

I was really worried, I was pretty sick, and I...

0:36:180:36:22

Not so much sick, but

0:36:220:36:24

for somebody to con me out of my money,

0:36:240:36:27

is a big thing. I was really upset.

0:36:270:36:31

Over the next year, Tony kept on trying to get in touch

0:36:310:36:34

with the company, whilst also reporting them to Action Fraud.

0:36:340:36:38

So, almost £10,000 out of pocket

0:36:380:36:40

and unsure whether he really owns any shares at all,

0:36:400:36:43

we're bringing Tony to the City Of London

0:36:430:36:45

for some expert advice.

0:36:450:36:47

Justin Urquhart Stewart has more than 25 years' experience

0:36:470:36:51

within the investment trading industry,

0:36:510:36:53

so he knows a genuine share certificate when he sees it.

0:36:530:36:56

Tony, we've got two of your share certificates here

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and this looks beautifully fancy, doesn't it?

0:36:590:37:01

-It does, yeah.

-Nice pictures on it, and it's got the form on the back,

0:37:010:37:04

so it could be a real one.

0:37:040:37:05

They've even got some sort of watermarks on here,

0:37:050:37:08

but I'm afraid that doesn't mean anything at all these days.

0:37:080:37:11

-They look good to me.

-They look fantastic.

0:37:110:37:14

They may look like the real thing,

0:37:140:37:16

but Justin's pretty sure that they're not.

0:37:160:37:18

And he's even more confident of that when he hears more of Tony's story.

0:37:180:37:23

-And they'd phoned you up directly, had they?

-Yes.

0:37:230:37:25

-Yeah, and told you a nice story about an opportunity?

-Oh, yeah.

0:37:250:37:28

The story you've told me, it sounds like a classic boiler room scam.

0:37:280:37:32

Boiler room scams are a very simple con,

0:37:320:37:35

in which a group of individuals set up a sort of mini call centre,

0:37:350:37:38

from where they cold call people,

0:37:380:37:40

attempting to sell things such as holiday homes,

0:37:400:37:42

luxury goods, and stocks and shares,

0:37:420:37:44

which, in reality, either don't exist at all

0:37:440:37:46

or are only worth a fraction of the price that the buyer pays for them.

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First of all, people shouldn't be cold calling you

0:37:500:37:52

about investments in the first place, anyway.

0:37:520:37:54

Now, no doubt, you'll get people trying to proffer financial advice,

0:37:540:37:57

but anybody trying to sell shares over the phone,

0:37:570:38:00

that's a big no-no.

0:38:000:38:01

Anyone trying to do that at the moment

0:38:010:38:03

will be breaching all sorts of regulation.

0:38:030:38:05

It is against the Financial Conduct Authority's rules

0:38:060:38:09

for a business to make the sort of cold call that Tony received.

0:38:090:38:13

But, when a company has tempted you once,

0:38:130:38:15

they'll keep coming back for more.

0:38:150:38:17

So it's good news that Tony called a halt to any further buys

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after his second investment.

0:38:200:38:21

What you quite rightly did was say, "No."

0:38:220:38:25

But all they need to do is to come up

0:38:250:38:27

with some names of companies - whether they exist or not -

0:38:270:38:31

have your name, and then a really slick sales patter,

0:38:310:38:34

and persuade you to be able to part with your money,

0:38:340:38:36

and they've got away with it.

0:38:360:38:37

And then, a few months later, the telephones go,

0:38:370:38:39

the fax machines go, and there's no response any more.

0:38:390:38:43

All of which, of course, is exactly what happened to Tony.

0:38:430:38:46

As for the companies he supposedly bought shares in,

0:38:460:38:49

the biotech firm was delisted from the Frankfurt Stock Exchange

0:38:490:38:53

and we can't find any information that suggests it was ever

0:38:530:38:56

the pioneering, cancer-busting company that Tony was told about.

0:38:560:39:00

Both it and the Canadian mining company are no longer trading.

0:39:000:39:03

So it's pretty clear that the money Tony invested has gone.

0:39:030:39:07

And it's cold comfort for him that it could have been much worse.

0:39:070:39:11

I've come across people -

0:39:110:39:12

sadly, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of pounds,

0:39:120:39:15

and people who really were taken in by that,

0:39:150:39:18

and then felt obliged to put in more.

0:39:180:39:21

Despite his best efforts to contact them,

0:39:220:39:24

Tony last heard from Eden Brown Group in October, 2013.

0:39:240:39:29

And we had no joy whatsoever in getting in touch them either.

0:39:290:39:32

The Spanish-based company hasn't answered any of our questions

0:39:320:39:35

or e-mails.

0:39:350:39:37

We also contacted the two companies

0:39:370:39:39

Tony bought nearly £10,000 worth of shares in,

0:39:390:39:42

but we've had no response to the various e-mails we sent.

0:39:420:39:45

The best advice if you're cold called by someone offering

0:39:450:39:48

an incredible-sounding investment is to end the call.

0:39:480:39:51

And hold on to your cash

0:39:510:39:53

until you've taken independent, regulated advice.

0:39:530:39:57

We have this regulation to protect us from these scams

0:39:570:40:00

and to protect us from these...these evil-doers,

0:40:000:40:03

and sadly, there are more of them around,

0:40:030:40:05

and therefore, we need the regulation even more.

0:40:050:40:07

As for Tony, I'm afraid

0:40:080:40:10

he's now resigned to the fact that his money has gone.

0:40:100:40:13

It is a big kick in the teeth

0:40:140:40:17

because that was for my future

0:40:170:40:21

and it's for my grandchildren.

0:40:210:40:23

I just feel that, somewhere along the line,

0:40:230:40:26

I'm trying to help other people not to get conned to the extent I am.

0:40:260:40:31

Well, like Tony, we thought we'd seen the end of his investments,

0:40:350:40:39

but as we were finishing this programme,

0:40:390:40:41

there was a further twist to the tale.

0:40:410:40:43

We finally had a reply to one of the e-mails we'd sent

0:40:430:40:46

to the companies Tony thought he owned shares in.

0:40:460:40:49

Though the biotech firm didn't respond,

0:40:490:40:51

the people behind the Canadian mining company did,

0:40:510:40:54

assuring us that Tony does, in fact,

0:40:540:40:56

own 5,000 shares in their company,

0:40:560:40:58

but that's not quite the good news it sounds

0:40:580:41:01

because the company isn't currently active

0:41:010:41:04

which means that while Tony's shares,

0:41:040:41:06

along with those owned by anyone else,

0:41:060:41:08

do at least exist,

0:41:080:41:09

unfortunately, they are almost certainly worthless.

0:41:090:41:13

Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate

0:41:170:41:20

more of your stories on any subject.

0:41:200:41:23

Are you confused over your bills or

0:41:230:41:25

just trying to wade through never-ending small print?

0:41:250:41:28

It's very frustrating because it makes what should be a

0:41:280:41:31

quite simple job a lot more complicated, and I think some people

0:41:310:41:34

just give up and so they don't get the best deal.

0:41:340:41:37

Maybe you're unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

0:41:370:41:40

and that so-called "great deal" has ended up costing you money.

0:41:400:41:45

People are buying into this. I did,

0:41:450:41:46

you know, and are they going to be as awkward

0:41:460:41:49

with them as they were with me?

0:41:490:41:50

You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share

0:41:500:41:53

the mistakes you made with us.

0:41:530:41:55

It upsets me an awful lot because, you know, I'm retired and I begrudge

0:41:550:42:01

having to pay that kind of money out.

0:42:010:42:03

You can write to us at...

0:42:050:42:06

..or you can send us an e-mail to...

0:42:140:42:17

Remember that the Rip-Off team is ready and waiting

0:42:200:42:24

to investigate your stories.

0:42:240:42:26

Well, as we've seen,

0:42:300:42:31

there is a seemingly endless range of scams out there.

0:42:310:42:34

So while we certainly all love receiving your letters and e-mails,

0:42:340:42:38

what we don't relish is the thought of hundreds of scam correspondence

0:42:380:42:42

coming through your letterboxes and computers.

0:42:420:42:44

But, as we've been hearing, the perpetrators really can go

0:42:440:42:48

to enormous lengths to make what they're saying sound legitimate.

0:42:480:42:51

So it really is very easy to see how you can be taken in.

0:42:510:42:54

So before you hand over any cash

0:42:540:42:57

to someone promising an amazing investment opportunity,

0:42:570:43:00

or a top prize in a draw you never even entered,

0:43:000:43:02

take a deep breath

0:43:020:43:04

and think about why they've contacted you in the first place.

0:43:040:43:07

Hmm.

0:43:070:43:09

So here's the message - do not be seduced.

0:43:090:43:11

Go away and do your checks and research,

0:43:110:43:13

or you could bring it to us to have a look at on your behalf.

0:43:130:43:16

If it is a scam, we, of course, can warn other people about it as well.

0:43:160:43:20

So, on that note and that advice,

0:43:200:43:22

that's where we have to leave it for today.

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Until the next time, thanks for watching,

0:43:240:43:26

-and from all of us here in the team, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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